On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 10:17:44 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 08:42:24 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 03:49:57 +1100, chop <chop654@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> That makes the nuclear game fair and just as everyone loses.
>>>>> More mindless pig ignorant bullshit.
>>>>>
>>>>>> check out the area in Russia that has been abandoned
>>>>> But doesnt need to be, just like Chernobyle doesnt need to be.
>>>>>
>>>>>> and now researchers can spend a couple of hours a week or whatever to
>>>>>> check out plant and animal resurgence since being affkicted with
>>>>>> nuclear poisons
>>>
>>>>> How odd that the plants and animals are doing fine, just like at
>>>>> Chernobyle.
>>>
>>>> Your migration to live in Chernobyl is acceptable to me.
>>>
>>> You are pathetic.
>>>
>>>> Even the Russians don't accept that Chernobyl's plant and wild life are
>>>> doing nfine.
>>>
>>> BULLSHIT.
>
>> Remember seeing "The Grand Tour" going through Chernobyl, didn't see
>> anyone living there?
>
>There have been a number of docos showing people illegally
>living there and the plants and animals doing fine.
>
>> But here's Jeremy Clarkson's take.
>> https://youtu.be/uTSSmV4QQ4Q
>
>>>> That nuclear infestation at Chernobyl was very minor in comparison with
>>>> the purposeful detonation of such real weapons..Nation to Nation et.
>>>> al.
>
None appeared on video but the 2 minute interview supports your
conclusion
The full Chernobyl (part) video, 8 minutes
https://youtu.be/nf6ON6pbDDA
Oct 6, 2014
With Clarkson in a Volkswagen Up, Hammond in a Ford Fiesta and May in
a Dacia Sandero, the trio have been driving around the Crimean
peninsula. But to complete their journey they must face one last
fearsome challenge; to drive into Chernobyl. Cue as much wasting of
fuel as possible. Clip taken from series 21, episode 3.
--
Petzl
Joel 2:3 Before them fire devours, behind them a flame blazes.
Before them the land is like the garden of Eden,
behind them, a desert waste
-- nothing escapes them....

In article <op.1086zu0ubyq249@pvr2.lan>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> There have been a number of docos showing people illegally
> living there and the plants and animals doing fine.

For how long? The background radiation would drop exponentially
util it was no immediate threat. What lasts thousands of years is
dust with radioactive isotopes. When those lodge in a body, they
tickle nearby tissue with alpha particles until they become
cancer. Years later.

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On Fri, 03 Mar 2023 15:40:31 -0800, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>In article <op.1086zu0ubyq249@pvr2.lan>,
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> There have been a number of docos showing people illegally
>> living there and the plants and animals doing fine.
>
>For how long? The background radiation would drop exponentially
>util it was no immediate threat. What lasts thousands of years is
>dust with radioactive isotopes. When those lodge in a body, they
>tickle nearby tissue with alpha particles until they become
>cancer. Years later.

I read somewhere the surface radionuclides are gradually washed into
the ground with rain & snow.

Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>> There have been a number of docos showing people illegally
>> living there and the plants and animals doing fine.

> For how long?

Ever since it went bang.

> The background radiation would drop exponentially
> util it was no immediate threat. What lasts thousands of years is
> dust with radioactive isotopes.

Clearly isnt doing the plants and animals any harm.

> When those lodge in a body, they
> tickle nearby tissue with alpha particles until they become
> cancer. Years later.

No evidence of any increased cancer rates with any of the animals.

On 03 Mar 2023, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some
news:chine.bleu-614432.15402203032023@news.eternal-september.org:

> In article <op.1086zu0ubyq249@pvr2.lan>,
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> There have been a number of docos showing people illegally
>> living there and the plants and animals doing fine.
>
> For how long? The background radiation would drop exponentially
> util it was no immediate threat. What lasts thousands of years is
> dust with radioactive isotopes. When those lodge in a body, they
> tickle nearby tissue with alpha particles until they become
> cancer. Years later.

Not much dust on Pacific islands, unless you go mucking about digging
things up. Humidity and typhoons keep the dust down.

Unlike the USA where Democrats bent on world domination spread nuclear
poison all over New Mexico, Nevada dustbeds, and later built a radioactive
creek in St Louis.

In article <op.109byop0byq249@pvr2.lan>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> No evidence of any increased cancer rates with any of the animals.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20002052/

https://academic.oup.com/jhered/article/105/5/704/2961808

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Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>> No evidence of any increased cancer rates with any of the animals.

> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20002052/

> https://academic.oup.com/jhered/article/105/5/704/2961808

Neither of those say anything about CANCER RATES in the animals.

On 3/3/2023 5:40 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> In article <op.1086zu0ubyq249@pvr2.lan>,
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> There have been a number of docos showing people illegally
>> living there and the plants and animals doing fine.
>
> For how long? The background radiation would drop exponentially
> util it was no immediate threat. What lasts thousands of years is
> dust with radioactive isotopes. When those lodge in a body, they
> tickle nearby tissue with alpha particles until they become
> cancer. Years later.

Sssshhh. The elimination of web know-it-alls could be the end result.
There is an old man living at one of the lesser toxic zones of
Chernobyl. His wife and daughter both died of effects of radiation. The
Government has allowed him to live there as a study and he has no
family. There was a full program on American TV a few years ago that
actually filmed the children's toys and household furnishings to
indicate how rapidly and fully the surviving residents fled. The old man
also trapped animals for the scientists to study. Also the plant life.
The Russian Scientists are way ahead of us on those studies. I have
searched the Web for that Documentary, but no luck. I believe it was on
PBS a number of years ago.

>

Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in news:chine.bleu-
2B3AE2.20061403032023@news.eternal-september.org:

> In article <op.109byop0byq249@pvr2.lan>,
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> No evidence of any increased cancer rates with any of the animals.
>
> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20002052/
>
> https://academic.oup.com/jhered/article/105/5/704/2961808

<https://dceg.cancer.gov/research/how-we-study/exposure-assessment/nci-
dose-estimation-predicted-cancer-risk-residents-marshall-islands>

On Fri, 3 Mar 2023 23:34:25 -0600, Leper <Leper@MalokaiColony.com>
wrote:

>On 3/3/2023 5:40 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>> In article <op.1086zu0ubyq249@pvr2.lan>,
>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> There have been a number of docos showing people illegally
>>> living there and the plants and animals doing fine.
>>
>> For how long? The background radiation would drop exponentially
>> util it was no immediate threat. What lasts thousands of years is
>> dust with radioactive isotopes. When those lodge in a body, they
>> tickle nearby tissue with alpha particles until they become
>> cancer. Years later.
>
>
>Sssshhh. The elimination of web know-it-alls could be the end result.
>There is an old man living at one of the lesser toxic zones of
>Chernobyl. His wife and daughter both died of effects of radiation. The
>Government has allowed him to live there as a study and he has no
>family. There was a full program on American TV a few years ago that
>actually filmed the children's toys and household furnishings to
>indicate how rapidly and fully the surviving residents fled. The old man
>also trapped animals for the scientists to study. Also the plant life.
>The Russian Scientists are way ahead of us on those studies. I have
>searched the Web for that Documentary, but no luck. I believe it was on
>PBS a number of years ago.
>
This it?
<https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/the-impact-of-chernobyls-nuclear-disaster-33-years-later>
https://tinyurl.com/yyxr8f4q
The impact of Chernobyl’s nuclear disaster 33 years later
--
Petzl
Joel 2:3 Before them fire devours, behind them a flame blazes.
Before them the land is like the garden of Eden,
behind them, a desert waste
-- nothing escapes them....

On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 20:02:03 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 3 Mar 2023 23:34:25 -0600, Leper <Leper@MalokaiColony.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 3/3/2023 5:40 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>> In article <op.1086zu0ubyq249@pvr2.lan>,
>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There have been a number of docos showing people illegally
>>>> living there and the plants and animals doing fine.
>>>
>>> For how long? The background radiation would drop exponentially
>>> util it was no immediate threat. What lasts thousands of years is
>>> dust with radioactive isotopes. When those lodge in a body, they
>>> tickle nearby tissue with alpha particles until they become
>>> cancer. Years later.
>>
>>
>> Sssshhh. The elimination of web know-it-alls could be the end result.
>> There is an old man living at one of the lesser toxic zones of
>> Chernobyl. His wife and daughter both died of effects of radiation. The
>> Government has allowed him to live there as a study and he has no
>> family. There was a full program on American TV a few years ago that
>> actually filmed the children's toys and household furnishings to
>> indicate how rapidly and fully the surviving residents fled. The old man
>> also trapped animals for the scientists to study. Also the plant life..
>> The Russian Scientists are way ahead of us on those studies. I have
>> searched the Web for that Documentary, but no luck. I believe it was on
>> PBS a number of years ago.
>>
> This it?
> <https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/the-impact-of-chernobyls-nuclear-disaster-33-years-later>
> https://tinyurl.com/yyxr8f4q
> The impact of Chernobyl’s nuclear disaster 33 years later

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-04/can-the-dogs-of-chernobyl-teach-us-new-tricks-on-survival-/102054608

On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 2:40:50 AM UTC+11, Rod Speed wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 20:02:03 +1100, Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 3 Mar 2023 23:34:25 -0600, Leper <Le...@MalokaiColony.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 3/3/2023 5:40 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> >>> In article <op.1086z...@pvr2.lan>,
> >>> "Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> There have been a number of docos showing people illegally
> >>>> living there and the plants and animals doing fine.
> >>>
> >>> For how long? The background radiation would drop exponentially
> >>> util it was no immediate threat. What lasts thousands of years is
> >>> dust with radioactive isotopes. When those lodge in a body, they
> >>> tickle nearby tissue with alpha particles until they become
> >>> cancer. Years later.
> >>
> >>
> >> Sssshhh. The elimination of web know-it-alls could be the end result.
> >> There is an old man living at one of the lesser toxic zones of
> >> Chernobyl. His wife and daughter both died of effects of radiation. The
> >> Government has allowed him to live there as a study and he has no
> >> family. There was a full program on American TV a few years ago that
> >> actually filmed the children's toys and household furnishings to
> >> indicate how rapidly and fully the surviving residents fled. The old man
> >> also trapped animals for the scientists to study. Also the plant life.
> >> The Russian Scientists are way ahead of us on those studies. I have
> >> searched the Web for that Documentary, but no luck. I believe it was on
> >> PBS a number of years ago.
> >>
> > This it?
> > <https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/the-impact-of-chernobyls-nuclear-disaster-33-years-later>
> > https://tinyurl.com/yyxr8f4q
> > The impact of Chernobyl’s nuclear disaster 33 years later
> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-04/can-the-dogs-of-chernobyl-teach-us-new-tricks-on-survival-/102054608

Dogs breed from 9 months of age and have short lifespans - and I bet around Chernobyl they're even shorter than usual.
Humans have to survive almost two decades to produce offspring, something that is massively less likely if they are subjected to long-term exposure to radioactive contamination such as the widespread environmental pollution caused by the nuclear industry around Pripyet and Chernobyl.

Both Ukraine and Belarus are still saddled with enormous containment and decontamination costs relating to the radioactive mess that has spread about both above ground as well us within the ground water - in Belarus' case, it's costing them a double-digit percentage of their total GDP.

On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 12:49:03 +1100, Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
<screaming.nutbag@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 2:40:50 AM UTC+11, Rod Speed wrote:
>> On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 20:02:03 +1100, Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Fri, 3 Mar 2023 23:34:25 -0600, Leper <Le...@MalokaiColony.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 3/3/2023 5:40 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>> >>> In article <op.1086z...@pvr2.lan>,
>> >>> "Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> There have been a number of docos showing people illegally
>> >>>> living there and the plants and animals doing fine.
>> >>>
>> >>> For how long? The background radiation would drop exponentially
>> >>> util it was no immediate threat. What lasts thousands of years is
>> >>> dust with radioactive isotopes. When those lodge in a body, they
>> >>> tickle nearby tissue with alpha particles until they become
>> >>> cancer. Years later.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sssshhh. The elimination of web know-it-alls could be the end result.
>> >> There is an old man living at one of the lesser toxic zones of
>> >> Chernobyl. His wife and daughter both died of effects of radiation..
>> The
>> >> Government has allowed him to live there as a study and he has no
>> >> family. There was a full program on American TV a few years ago that
>> >> actually filmed the children's toys and household furnishings to
>> >> indicate how rapidly and fully the surviving residents fled. The old
>> man
>> >> also trapped animals for the scientists to study. Also the plant
>> life.
>> >> The Russian Scientists are way ahead of us on those studies. I have
>> >> searched the Web for that Documentary, but no luck. I believe it was
>> on
>> >> PBS a number of years ago.
>> >>
>> > This it?
>> >
>> <https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/the-impact-of-chernobyls-nuclear-disaster-33-years-later>
>> > https://tinyurl.com/yyxr8f4q
>> > The impact of Chernobyl’s nuclear disaster 33 years later
>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-04/can-the-dogs-of-chernobyl-teach-us-new-tricks-on-survival-/102054608

> Dogs breed from 9 months of age and have short lifespans -

Plenty of other longer lived wild animals there doing fine.

> and I bet around Chernobyl they're even shorter than usual.

You have just lost that bet. You must pay to my paypal.

> Humans have to survive almost two decades to produce offspring,

BULLSHIT.

> something that is massively less likely if they are subjected to
> long-term exposure to radioactive contamination such as the widespread
> environmental pollution caused by the nuclear industry around Pripyet
> and Chernobyl.

Wrong, as always.

> Both Ukraine and Belarus are still saddled with enormous containment and
> decontamination costs relating to the radioactive mess that has spread
> about both above ground as well us within the ground water - in Belarus'
> case, it's costing them a double-digit percentage of their total GDP.

BULLSHIT.

On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 02:40:46 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 20:02:03 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 3 Mar 2023 23:34:25 -0600, Leper <Leper@MalokaiColony.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/3/2023 5:40 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>>> In article <op.1086zu0ubyq249@pvr2.lan>,
>>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There have been a number of docos showing people illegally
>>>>> living there and the plants and animals doing fine.
>>>>
>>>> For how long? The background radiation would drop exponentially
>>>> util it was no immediate threat. What lasts thousands of years is
>>>> dust with radioactive isotopes. When those lodge in a body, they
>>>> tickle nearby tissue with alpha particles until they become
>>>> cancer. Years later.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sssshhh. The elimination of web know-it-alls could be the end result.
>>> There is an old man living at one of the lesser toxic zones of
>>> Chernobyl. His wife and daughter both died of effects of radiation. The
>>> Government has allowed him to live there as a study and he has no
>>> family. There was a full program on American TV a few years ago that
>>> actually filmed the children's toys and household furnishings to
>>> indicate how rapidly and fully the surviving residents fled. The old man
>>> also trapped animals for the scientists to study. Also the plant life.
>>> The Russian Scientists are way ahead of us on those studies. I have
>>> searched the Web for that Documentary, but no luck. I believe it was on
>>> PBS a number of years ago.
>>>
>> This it?
>> <https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/the-impact-of-chernobyls-nuclear-disaster-33-years-later>
>> https://tinyurl.com/yyxr8f4q
>> The impact of Chernobyl’s nuclear disaster 33 years later
>
>https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-04/can-the-dogs-of-chernobyl-teach-us-new-tricks-on-survival-/102054608
>
<https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/belarus-chernobyl-radiation-contamination>
https://tinyurl.com/yhoum5qw
The Chernobyl disaster technically took place in the former Soviet
republic of Ukraine, but radioactive contamination hardly respects
geopolitical borders—especially the border with Belarus, a scant six
miles from the site of the meltdown. Roughly two-thirds of the
territory of Belarus suffered significant contamination, and within
two years of the disaster, the Belarusian government had designated
the most toxic area, along the Ukrainian border and closest to the
plant, the Polesie State Radioecological Reserve. This restricted
zone, once home to scores of villages, was to be used exclusively for
scientific monitoring and research. In November 2018, as tourism to
the Chernobyl area of Ukraine continued to grow, Belarusian
authorities tentatively began offering tour routes through their
Reserve. I’ve led some of these Exclusion Zone tours in Ukraine for
years (Disclosure: including for Atlas Obscura), so the following
summer I decided to pay Belarus’s Reserve a visit. The prescribed
tours usually took the form of highly structured one-day itineraries
focused on select locations, but I asked if it might be possible to
explore further afield, on a two-day “monumenteering” trip. The
Reserve’s administration approved my request.
--
Petzl
Joel 2:3 Before them fire devours, behind them a flame blazes.
Before them the land is like the garden of Eden,
behind them, a desert waste
-- nothing escapes them....

On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 13:45:08 +1100
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Humans have to survive almost two decades to produce offspring,
>
> BULLSHIT.

Roddles should know, he and his 12 year old cousin pumped out a
monkey.