On 9/4/2021 4:51 PM, Boots wrote:
> On 04/09/2021 20:12 Bruce Horrocks penned these words:
>> On 04/09/2021 04:25, Turby wrote:
>>
>>> This. Rent a tank of helium from a party company, then tape a balloon
>>> over your head in the parking lot of a local final hospice care
>>> facility. They deal with death and won't be as stressed out as someone
>>> at home.
>>
>> Party helium comes with added oxygen so it won't work. You'd need to
>> find an industrial supplier.
>>
> Helium is expensive, argon ought to do it and it is way cheaper.
>
But accessible?

--
The erstwhile Thomas
FJR1300, R1200GS, ST1100 (in memoriam)

On 05/09/2021 10:54 Turby penned these words:
> On 9/4/2021 4:51 PM, Boots wrote:
>> On 04/09/2021 20:12 Bruce Horrocks penned these words:
>>> On 04/09/2021 04:25, Turby wrote:
>>>
>>>> This. Rent a tank of helium from a party company, then tape a balloon
>>>> over your head in the parking lot of a local final hospice care
>>>> facility. They deal with death and won't be as stressed out as someone
>>>> at home.
>>>
>>> Party helium comes with added oxygen so it won't work. You'd need to
>>> find an industrial supplier.
>>>
>> Helium is expensive, argon ought to do it and it is way cheaper.
>>
> But accessible?
>
Welding gas https://caweldingsupply.com/our-services/gases/ if you want helium
sans added oxygen then have to buy that from somewhere like this too.

--
Ian

"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of
the last priest"

On 9/4/2021 9:45 PM, Boots wrote:
> On 05/09/2021 10:54 Turby penned these words:
>> On 9/4/2021 4:51 PM, Boots wrote:
>>> On 04/09/2021 20:12 Bruce Horrocks penned these words:
>>>> On 04/09/2021 04:25, Turby wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This. Rent a tank of helium from a party company, then tape a balloon
>>>>> over your head in the parking lot of a local final hospice care
>>>>> facility. They deal with death and won't be as stressed out as someone
>>>>> at home.
>>>>
>>>> Party helium comes with added oxygen so it won't work. You'd need to
>>>> find an industrial supplier.
>>>>
>>> Helium is expensive, argon ought to do it and it is way cheaper.
>>>
>> But accessible?
>>
> Welding gas https://caweldingsupply.com/our-services/gases/ if you want helium
> sans added oxygen then have to buy that from somewhere like this too.
>
>
Thanks. Still years away, so hope things are as simple then.

--
The erstwhile Thomas
FJR1300, R1200GS, ST1100 (in memoriam)

On Sat, 04 Sep 2021 10:18:59 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:

>>> I dig them up in this garden from time to time - mostly Afika Corp and
>>> a smattering of Eighth Army - no idea what the lad who lived here was
>>> playing at as it's more like the Western Front.

>>I had both of those sets aged about 7 - got quite messy painting them green
>>or blue. May have been a bit high on the solvent based paint.

>I never got my head round wh some kids, including at least one of my
>brothers, would bother painting airfkx models, let alone toy soldiers.
>Sure, I'd stick the transfers on, but painting them just seemed like
>faff for the sake of faff.

Eh? Painting was part of the job, and the fun.

I even used to try and create a 'skin tone' colour to paint the face
of the pilot in the plane.
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

On 05/09/2021 06:16, Turby wrote:
> On 9/4/2021 9:45 PM, Boots wrote:
>> On 05/09/2021 10:54 Turby penned these words:
>>> On 9/4/2021 4:51 PM, Boots wrote:
>>>> On 04/09/2021 20:12 Bruce Horrocks penned these words:
>>>>> On 04/09/2021 04:25, Turby wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This. Rent a tank of helium from a party company, then tape a balloon
>>>>>> over your head in the parking lot of a local final hospice care
>>>>>> facility. They deal with death and won't be as stressed out as
>>>>>> someone
>>>>>> at home.
>>>>>
>>>>> Party helium comes with added oxygen so it won't work. You'd need to
>>>>> find an industrial supplier.
>>>>>
>>>> Helium is expensive, argon ought to do it and it is way cheaper.
>>>>
>>> But accessible?
>>>
>> Welding gas https://caweldingsupply.com/our-services/gases/ if you
>> want helium
>> sans added oxygen then have to buy that from somewhere like this too.
>>
>>
> Thanks. Still years away, so hope things are as simple then.
>

It's getting a bit morbid but surely nitrogen is cheap as chips?

Of course, if you go with argon and decide to make doubly sure by
electrocuting yourself simultaneously you'll have a nice pale lavender
glow. :-)

--
Bruce Horrocks
Surrey, England

On 9/5/2021 4:45 AM, Bruce Horrocks wrote:
> On 05/09/2021 06:16, Turby wrote:
>> On 9/4/2021 9:45 PM, Boots wrote:
>>> On 05/09/2021 10:54 Turby penned these words:
>>>> On 9/4/2021 4:51 PM, Boots wrote:
>>>>> On 04/09/2021 20:12 Bruce Horrocks penned these words:
>>>>>> On 04/09/2021 04:25, Turby wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This. Rent a tank of helium from a party company, then tape a
>>>>>>> balloon
>>>>>>> over your head in the parking lot of a local final hospice care
>>>>>>> facility. They deal with death and won't be as stressed out as
>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>> at home.
>>>>>>
>> Thanks. Still years away, so hope things are as simple then.
>>
>
> It's getting a bit morbid

It's amazing I've lived so long, considering all the dangers I've put
myself in - motorcycling, surfing big waves, traveling in 3rd & 4th
world countries, etc...
My mother died of alzheimers. The last 5 years of her life were
horrible. She kept saying she wanted it to be over. I don't want to go
through that.

--
The erstwhile Thomas
FJR1300, R1200GS, ST1100 (in memoriam)

On 05/09/2021 12:29, Champ wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Sep 2021 04:32:48 -0700 (PDT), Hog <york996@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> A dynamic final experience, off the 300ft cliffs of Dunnet Head (or similar) with a North Atlantic storm smashing in.
>> That has to have been an incredible (brief) experience.
>
> And, in memory of the recently departed, I recall a reply from TOG to
> someone (I think Bear) about how to go out.
>
> Bear: I plan to die with my boots on
> TOG: I doubt it - you'll still be struggling with the buckles when the
> shotgun goes off
>
<G>

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
https://the-ytc1-shed.blogspot.com/ Deprected(http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/)
There *is* an alternative! https://www.libreoffice.org/

On Saturday, 4 September 2021 at 18:13:12 UTC+1, Pipl wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Sep 2021 07:19:25 -0700 (PDT), Hog <yor...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >Cliffs. 30ft crashing waves. Nothing left to recover. Was rather my point.
> >I expect your local hospice can also do without the hassle
> Or you could survive just long enough to make your last minutes a
> living hell.

300ft, is that possible?
Roughly 4.5s and 150kph (90mph)
Current world record 192ft

On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 12:29:09 UTC+1, Champ wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Sep 2021 04:32:48 -0700 (PDT), Hog <yor...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >A dynamic final experience, off the 300ft cliffs of Dunnet Head (or similar) with a North Atlantic storm smashing in.
> >That has to have been an incredible (brief) experience.
> And, in memory of the recently departed, I recall a reply from TOG to
> someone (I think Bear) about how to go out.
>
> Bear: I plan to die with my boots on
> TOG: I doubt it - you'll still be struggling with the buckles when the
> shotgun goes off

Ha, ah yes.
They were <cough> not friends. But who would have bet that way :o\

Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Sep 2021 04:32:48 -0700 (PDT), Hog <york996@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>A dynamic final experience, off the 300ft cliffs of Dunnet Head (or similar) with a North Atlantic storm smashing in.
>>That has to have been an incredible (brief) experience.
>
> And, in memory of the recently departed, I recall a reply from TOG to
> someone (I think Bear) about how to go out.
>
> Bear: I plan to die with my boots on
> TOG: I doubt it - you'll still be struggling with the buckles when the
> shotgun goes off

<grin>

--
FJR1300A, GL1000, KLR650A6F, EX250J9A, DR200SE, Vespa Ciao

On 05/09/2021 14:31, Hog wrote:
> On Saturday, 4 September 2021 at 18:13:12 UTC+1, Pipl wrote:
>> On Sat, 4 Sep 2021 07:19:25 -0700 (PDT), Hog <yor...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Cliffs. 30ft crashing waves. Nothing left to recover. Was rather my point.
>>> I expect your local hospice can also do without the hassle
>> Or you could survive just long enough to make your last minutes a
>> living hell.
>
> 300ft, is that possible?
> Roughly 4.5s and 150kph (90mph)
> Current world record 192ft

Which world record? Highest fall survived without a parachute was 33,333ft.

https://www.ranker.com/list/people-who-fell-and-survived/nathan-gibson

Probably advisable to stand on the edge and shoot yourself rather than
relying on the fall itself.

On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 12:24:39 +0100, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:

>On Sat, 04 Sep 2021 10:18:59 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:

>>I never got my head round wh some kids, including at least one of my
>>brothers, would bother painting airfkx models, let alone toy soldiers.
>>Sure, I'd stick the transfers on, but painting them just seemed like
>>faff for the sake of faff.
>
>Eh? Painting was part of the job, and the fun.

Each to their own, eh? TBH I'm pretty much the same about paintwork on
bikes and cars - it needs to be there for protection, sure, but I'm
never really that bothered about it, and certainly don't try and keep
things looking pristine.

>I even used to try and create a 'skin tone' colour to paint the face
>of the pilot in the plane.

They had pilots? I honestly don't remember that.

--
Ace
http://www.chaletbeauroc.com/

On 9/5/2021 6:31 AM, Hog wrote:
> On Saturday, 4 September 2021 at 18:13:12 UTC+1, Pipl wrote:
>> On Sat, 4 Sep 2021 07:19:25 -0700 (PDT), Hog <yor...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Cliffs. 30ft crashing waves. Nothing left to recover. Was rather my point.
>>> I expect your local hospice can also do without the hassle
>> Or you could survive just long enough to make your last minutes a
>> living hell.
>
> 300ft, is that possible?
> Roughly 4.5s and 150kph (90mph)
> Current world record 192ft
>
This is our local cliff. ~100'. The photo is from 1898. There's another
photo from an early western movie of a cowboy on a horse doing the same
jump. Now, >100 years later, after so much erosion, at a very low tide
the rocks at the landing spot are sometimes dry.

--
The erstwhile Thomas
FJR1300, R1200GS, ST1100 (in memoriam)

On Sun, 5 Sep 2021 07:51:42 +0800, Boots
<news@millhouse-communications.co.uk> wrote:

>On 04/09/2021 20:12 Bruce Horrocks penned these words:
>> On 04/09/2021 04:25, Turby wrote:
>>
>>> This. Rent a tank of helium from a party company, then tape a balloon
>>> over your head in the parking lot of a local final hospice care
>>> facility. They deal with death and won't be as stressed out as someone
>>> at home.
>>
>> Party helium comes with added oxygen so it won't work. You'd need to
>> find an industrial supplier.
>>
>Helium is expensive, argon ought to do it and it is way cheaper.

Easily. It's used foe welding. Probably cheaper than helium, in fact.
The issue is that it must be pure (aluminium welding grade) else it'll
contain CO2, which would rather negate the point of using an inert
gas.

If you absoulutely need an inert atmosphere and you can't get hold of
commercial gases, I reckon that electrolysing water for hydrogen, then
either using the hydrogen neat, or, safer, burn it slowly (to let heat
dissipate) in a sealed volume of air to remove the bulk of the
oxygen. Burning anything else (except maybe metals) would result in
producing CO2, which you really don't want.

--

-Pip

On 9/5/2021 11:43 AM, Turby wrote:
> On 9/5/2021 6:31 AM, Hog wrote:
>> On Saturday, 4 September 2021 at 18:13:12 UTC+1, Pipl wrote:
>>> On Sat, 4 Sep 2021 07:19:25 -0700 (PDT), Hog <yor...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Cliffs. 30ft crashing waves. Nothing left to recover. Was rather my
>>>> point.
>>>> I expect your local hospice can also do without the hassle
>>> Or you could survive just long enough to make your last minutes a
>>> living hell.
>>
>> 300ft, is that possible?
>> Roughly 4.5s and 150kph (90mph)
>> Current world record 192ft
>>
> This is our local cliff. ~100'. The photo is from 1898. There's another
> photo from an early western movie of a cowboy on a horse doing the same
> jump. Now, >100 years later, after so much erosion, at a very low tide
> the rocks at the landing spot are sometimes dry.
>

https://library.ucsd.edu/dc/object/bb60762875

--
The erstwhile Thomas
FJR1300, R1200GS, ST1100 (in memoriam)

On 06/09/2021 02:49 Pipl penned these words:
> On Sun, 5 Sep 2021 07:51:42 +0800, Boots
>
>> Helium is expensive, argon ought to do it and it is way cheaper.
>
> Easily. It's used foe welding. Probably cheaper than helium, in fact.
> The issue is that it must be pure (aluminium welding grade) else it'll
> contain CO2, which would rather negate the point of using an inert
> gas.
If one were determined to off oneself the hedgerows are full of toxic flora as a
couple of displaced refugee kids found out the other day.
URL:https://www.euronews.com/2021/09/02/afghan-refugee-5-dies-after-eating-poisonous-mushrooms-in-poland
sure there was a similar case in the UK with a Thai lady experienced forager (in
Asia) grabbing what looked like something she knew only it was a destroying
angel URL:https://www.wildfooduk.com/mushroom-guide/destroying-angel/ hemlock
and hemlock water dropwort are abundant. The later is perhaps the most poisonous
plant in northern Europe.

--
Ian

"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of
the last priest"

Boots <news@millhouse-communications.co.uk> wrote:
> On 06/09/2021 02:49 Pipl penned these words:
>> On Sun, 5 Sep 2021 07:51:42 +0800, Boots
>>
>>> Helium is expensive, argon ought to do it and it is way cheaper.
>>
>> Easily. It's used foe welding. Probably cheaper than helium, in fact.
>> The issue is that it must be pure (aluminium welding grade) else it'll
>> contain CO2, which would rather negate the point of using an inert
>> gas.
> If one were determined to off oneself the hedgerows are full of toxic flora as a
> couple of displaced refugee kids found out the other day.
> URL:https://www.euronews.com/2021/09/02/afghan-refugee-5-dies-after-eating-poisonous-mushrooms-in-poland
> sure there was a similar case in the UK with a Thai lady experienced forager (in
> Asia) grabbing what looked like something she knew only it was a destroying
> angel URL:https://www.wildfooduk.com/mushroom-guide/destroying-angel/ hemlock
> and hemlock water dropwort are abundant. The later is perhaps the most poisonous
> plant in northern Europe.

Although causing many fatalities this deadly fungus has no known
antidote. The symptoms start several hours after ingestion with severe
vomiting, diarrhoea and abdominal pains and can last for a few days;
this is followed by what seems to be a full recovery for a few days
but ending in death from kidney and liver failure. The main poison,
alpha amanatin, kills liver cells and passes through the kidneys to
be recirculated and cause more damage.

Compared to that, jumping off the cliff doesn't sound too bad.

--
FJR1300A, GL1000, KLR650A6F, EX250J9A, Vespa Ciao

On 03/09/2021 11:31, YTC#1 wrote:
> On 03/09/2021 08:30, Eddie wrote:
>> On 03/09/2021 07:05, Gyp wrote:
>>> On 02/09/2021 11:39, Dave Brown wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ditto (1), humanist I think, followed by a scattering at a
>>>> challenging location yet TBC.
>>>>
>>> Which is all very funny until you discover that your relatives will
>>> requires them to be scattered from a Vulcan on a low level fly past
>>> and you're left to sort that out.
>>
>> https://uk.airfix.com/products/avro-vulcan-b2-a12011
>> https://www.therange.co.uk/household/laundry/clothes-airers-and-washing-lines/washing-lines/replacement-washing-line/#401892
>>
>> https://www.therange.co.uk/diy/hardware-and-accessories/household/fittings/cup-hooks-shouldered/#163723
>>
>>
>> Sorted
>>
>
> Did anyone else tie hanky to action man, fill an Airfix plane with
> lighter fluid, set it alight, throw it out of an upstairs window,
> closely followed by the action man with hankie parachute?
>
> No?
>
> Oh. Ok.

"Bangers" in the model for a proper jet effect and subsequent explosion.
My action men weren't girls like yours and went down with the plane!

On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 20:24:26 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:

>>>I never got my head round wh some kids, including at least one of my
>>>brothers, would bother painting airfkx models, let alone toy soldiers.
>>>Sure, I'd stick the transfers on, but painting them just seemed like
>>>faff for the sake of faff.

>>Eh? Painting was part of the job, and the fun.

>Each to their own, eh? TBH I'm pretty much the same about paintwork on
>bikes and cars - it needs to be there for protection, sure, but I'm
>never really that bothered about it, and certainly don't try and keep
>things looking pristine.

Oh, yeah, I'm with you on that
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

On Sun, 5 Sep 2021 12:14:47 -0700, Turby <xsurf@xmail.com> wrote:

>> This is our local cliff. ~100'. The photo is from 1898. There's another
>> photo from an early western movie of a cowboy on a horse doing the same
>> jump. Now, >100 years later, after so much erosion, at a very low tide
>> the rocks at the landing spot are sometimes dry.

>https://library.ucsd.edu/dc/object/bb60762875

Wow! That guys certainly has cojones
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

On 05/09/2021 12:45, Bruce Horrocks wrote:
> On 05/09/2021 06:16, Turby wrote:
>> On 9/4/2021 9:45 PM, Boots wrote:
>>> On 05/09/2021 10:54 Turby penned these words:
>>>> On 9/4/2021 4:51 PM, Boots wrote:
>>>>> On 04/09/2021 20:12 Bruce Horrocks penned these words:
>>>>>> On 04/09/2021 04:25, Turby wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This. Rent a tank of helium from a party company, then tape a
>>>>>>> balloon
>>>>>>> over your head in the parking lot of a local final hospice care
>>>>>>> facility. They deal with death and won't be as stressed out as
>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>> at home.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Party helium comes with added oxygen so it won't work. You'd need to
>>>>>> find an industrial supplier.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Helium is expensive, argon ought to do it and it is way cheaper.
>>>>>
>>>> But accessible?
>>>>
>>> Welding gas https://caweldingsupply.com/our-services/gases/ if you
>>> want helium
>>> sans added oxygen then have to buy that from somewhere like this too.
>>>
>>>
>> Thanks. Still years away, so hope things are as simple then.
>>
>
> It's getting a bit morbid but surely nitrogen is cheap as chips?
>
> Of course, if you go with argon and decide to make doubly sure by
> electrocuting yourself simultaneously you'll have a nice pale lavender
> glow. :-)
>
LOL

--
The Deuchars BBB#40 COFF#14
Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550t
http://www.Deuchars.org.uk

On 03/09/2021 18:22, Champ wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Sep 2021 16:20:34 -0000 (UTC), wessie
> <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
>
>> "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in news:ipec3jFgdktU1
>> @mid.individual.net:
>>
>>> YTC#1 wrote:
>>>
>>>>> We was too poor for Action Man, but little plastic toy soldiers,
>>>>> sure. Didn't everyone?
>>>>>
>>>> <phew> not alone then.</p>
>>>>
>>>> Ahh,yes, they died a lot as well
>>>
>>> I dig them up in this garden from time to time - mostly Afika Corp and
>>> a smattering of Eighth Army - no idea what the lad who lived here was
>>> playing at as it's more like the Western Front.
>>>
>>
>> I had both of those sets aged about 7 - got quite messy painting them green
>> or blue. May have been a bit high on the solvent based paint.
>
> And once again, Wessie's and my childhood memories overlap :-)
>

I think I've told this before, but, when I were a nipper, I had to have
some test or other on my eyes and they used that stuff that dilates your
pupils. I was off school, decided I could see just fine, and decided to
assemble and paint an airfix model. I thought I was doing a fantastic
job. The next day the truth emerged.

--
/Simon

On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 5:59:15 AM UTC-4, Champ wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 20:24:26 +0200, Ace <A...@ch.com> wrote:
>
> >Each to their own, eh? TBH I'm pretty much the same about paintwork on
> >bikes and cars - it needs to be there for protection, sure, but I'm
> >never really that bothered about it, and certainly don't try and keep
> >things looking pristine.
> Oh, yeah, I'm with you on that

I was, until I got my Triumph Herald restored. Now I'm eager for it to stay immaculate.

The modern cars only get washed once a year for sure (when they get serviced), and one other time if they're lucky.

On Mon, 6 Sep 2021 19:33:27 +0100, siwilson
<siwilson@nodamnspam.hotmail.com> wrote:

>I think I've told this before, but, when I were a nipper, I had to have
>some test or other on my eyes and they used that stuff that dilates your
>pupils. I was off school, decided I could see just fine, and decided to
>assemble and paint an airfix model. I thought I was doing a fantastic
>job. The next day the truth emerged.

heh
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

On 06/09/2021 11:00, Champ wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Sep 2021 12:14:47 -0700, Turby <xsurf@xmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> This is our local cliff. ~100'. The photo is from 1898. There's another
>>> photo from an early western movie of a cowboy on a horse doing the same
>>> jump. Now, >100 years later, after so much erosion, at a very low tide
>>> the rocks at the landing spot are sometimes dry.
>
>> https://library.ucsd.edu/dc/object/bb60762875
>
> Wow! That guys certainly has cojones

Only if he landed right.