On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 18:39:33 +0000, Joe Kerr <joe_kerr@cheerful.com>
scrawled in the dust...

>On 22/02/2022 17:29, Penny wrote:

>>> Still a whoosh, really. I don't think this has ever crossed my ears...
>>
>> Did you never listen to 'Three way family favourites' (or whatever weekend
>> the kids requests prog was)?
>
>That sounds way more like late night adult entertainment.

Minor syntax problem during edit :(

>Junior Choice
>(or Children's Choice) would be more appropriate for children.

Them's the fellas.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 19:21:15 +0000, krw <krw@whitnet.uk> scrawled in the
dust...
>On 22.2.22 17:29, Penny wrote:
>>
>> Did you never listen to 'Three way family favourites' (or whatever weekend
>> the kids requests prog was)?
>
>I think you are conflating two entirely different wireless programmes m'lud,

Nope, I just couldn't recall the name of the children's request show. I
probably heard it on both.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 18:46:13 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan wrote:

> Joe Kerr <joe_kerr@cheerful.com> wrote:
>> On 22/02/2022 17:29, Penny wrote:
>>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 12:47:47 +0000, Kate B <elvira@nospam.demon.co.uk>
>>> scrawled in the dust...
>>>
>>>> On 22/02/2022 11:29, Jenny M Benson wrote:
>>>>> On 22/02/2022 11:15, Kate B wrote:
>>>>>> On 22/02/2022 06:13, Sid Nuncius wrote:
>>>>>>> On 21/02/2022 19:58, Nick Odell wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 17:33:36 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The latest song from our greenhouese is: ‘Three panels off my
>>>>>>>>> roof’
>>>>>>>>> but though there have been high winds there have not been any
>>>>>>>>> Indians to my knowledge, still looking for the hidden cave…
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are we still allowed to sing that song? I haven't heard it in a
>>>>>>>> long time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope not.  I've always heartily disliked it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is it? Complete and utter whoosh here. Whooshier than Franklin
>>>>>> who is quite douce in east Edinburgh.
>>>>>>
>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/ya99pca2
>>>>>
>>>> Still a whoosh, really. I don't think this has ever crossed my
>>>> ears...
>>>
>>> Did you never listen to 'Three way family favourites' (or whatever
>>> weekend the kids requests prog was)?
>>
>> That sounds way more like late night adult entertainment. Junior Choice
>> (or Children's Choice) would be more appropriate for children.
>>
>>
> Two Way & Three Way Family Favourites was standard Sunday lunchtime
> fodder in our ‘ouse,

And ours. I can't hear "With A Song In My Heart" without thinking of lumpy
Bisto gravy and brutally-boiled sprouts.

Rosie

On 22/02/2022 20:18, Penny wrote:

>> Junior Choice
>> (or Children's Choice) would be more appropriate for children.
>
> Them's the fellas.

Junior Choice (with Ed Stewart, IIRC) was a programme which began when
that newfangled Radio 1 started in 1967. My childhood listening before
that was its predecessor, Children's Favourites with Uncle Mac on the
Light Programme.

(Uncle Mac played Last Train To San Fernando for me when I was about six
years old after I got my dad to write a letter requesting it. I was
thrilled beyond words when I heard my name on the wireless.)

--
Sid
(Make sure Matron is away when you reply)

On 22/02/2022 19:37, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 22-Feb-22 8:02, John Ashby wrote:
>> On 22/02/2022 06:13, Sid Nuncius wrote:
>>> On 21/02/2022 19:58, Nick Odell wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 17:33:36 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
>>>
>>>>> The latest song from our greenhouese is: ‘Three panels off my roof’
>>>>> but
>>>>> though there have been high winds there have not been any Indians
>>>>> to my
>>>>> knowledge, still looking for the hidden cave…
>>>>
>>>> Are we still allowed to sing that song? I haven't heard it in a long
>>>> time.
>>>
>>> I hope not.  I've always heartily disliked it.
>>
>> Yet now you'll be hearing it all day in your head.
>>
>> I want to hear a version where when the last wheel comes off the
>> Cherokee catch up with it and say ""Look, we've picked up all your
>> wheels for you," put them back on the wagon, grease everything with
>> buffalo tallow and bind the axles with rawhide thongs, then escort the
>> settlers across the plain to the hidden cave for a feast and s pipe of
>> peace.
>
> Issue a fine for driving a wagon in poor repair, and failing to stop
> when instructed to do so by a highway patrol.

And then presumably shoot the driver dead if he is black?

--
Sid
(Make sure Matron is away when you reply)

Sid Nuncius <nuncius@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> On 22/02/2022 19:37, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> On 22-Feb-22 8:02, John Ashby wrote:
>>> On 22/02/2022 06:13, Sid Nuncius wrote:
>>>> On 21/02/2022 19:58, Nick Odell wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 17:33:36 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
>>>>
>>>>>> The latest song from our greenhouese is: ‘Three panels off my roof’
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> though there have been high winds there have not been any Indians
>>>>>> to my
>>>>>> knowledge, still looking for the hidden cave…
>>>>>
>>>>> Are we still allowed to sing that song? I haven't heard it in a long
>>>>> time.
>>>>
>>>> I hope not.  I've always heartily disliked it.
>>>
>>> Yet now you'll be hearing it all day in your head.
>>>
>>> I want to hear a version where when the last wheel comes off the
>>> Cherokee catch up with it and say ""Look, we've picked up all your
>>> wheels for you," put them back on the wagon, grease everything with
>>> buffalo tallow and bind the axles with rawhide thongs, then escort the
>>> settlers across the plain to the hidden cave for a feast and s pipe of
>>> peace.
>>
>> Issue a fine for driving a wagon in poor repair, and failing to stop
>> when instructed to do so by a highway patrol.
>
> And then presumably shoot the driver dead if he is black?
>

Then there was the ‘Freight Train’ - ‘Fooled ya, I fooled ya’ - carrying
undeclared live stock. (And I don’t mean Lonny Donnigan’s ‘Last Train to
San Fernando’ either.)

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

Rosalind Mitchell <walneyrose@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 18:46:13 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan wrote:
>
>> Joe Kerr <joe_kerr@cheerful.com> wrote:
>>> On 22/02/2022 17:29, Penny wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 12:47:47 +0000, Kate B <elvira@nospam.demon.co.uk>
>>>> scrawled in the dust...
>>>>
>>>>> On 22/02/2022 11:29, Jenny M Benson wrote:
>>>>>> On 22/02/2022 11:15, Kate B wrote:
>>>>>>> On 22/02/2022 06:13, Sid Nuncius wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 21/02/2022 19:58, Nick Odell wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 17:33:36 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The latest song from our greenhouese is: ‘Three panels off my
>>>>>>>>>> roof’
>>>>>>>>>> but though there have been high winds there have not been any
>>>>>>>>>> Indians to my knowledge, still looking for the hidden cave…
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Are we still allowed to sing that song? I haven't heard it in a
>>>>>>>>> long time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I hope not.  I've always heartily disliked it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is it? Complete and utter whoosh here. Whooshier than Franklin
>>>>>>> who is quite douce in east Edinburgh.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/ya99pca2
>>>>>>
>>>>> Still a whoosh, really. I don't think this has ever crossed my
>>>>> ears...
>>>>
>>>> Did you never listen to 'Three way family favourites' (or whatever
>>>> weekend the kids requests prog was)?
>>>
>>> That sounds way more like late night adult entertainment. Junior Choice
>>> (or Children's Choice) would be more appropriate for children.
>>>
>>>
>> Two Way & Three Way Family Favourites was standard Sunday lunchtime
>> fodder in our ‘ouse,
>
> And ours. I can't hear "With A Song In My Heart" without thinking of lumpy
> Bisto gravy and brutally-boiled sprouts.
>
> Rosie
>

‘Lumpy Bisto gravy’??? I’ll have none of yer ‘lumpy’ round ‘ere’ thank you!
I used to stand in front of the stove and continuously stir the contents of
the tray so there were no lumps in our gravy, thank you very much! (But I
did have to stand back for a few seconds when the sprout / cabbage water
was added to the gravy mix) - I was only a nipper then. There was also
Billy Cotton’s Band Show….

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

On 23/02/2022 08:18, Mike McMillan wrote:
>
> Then there was the ‘Freight Train’ - ‘Fooled ya, I fooled ya’ - carrying
> undeclared live stock. (And I don’t mean Lonny Donnigan’s ‘Last Train to
> San Fernando’ either.)

<mode=tedious pedant>
The lyrics you quote are from Lonnie Donegan's groundbreaking version of
Rock Island Line, in which the undeclared cargo is pig iron; the
livestock was his cover story. Freight Train is a different song by
Nancy Whisky and Last Train To San Fernando was by Johnny Duncan & His
Bluegrass Boys. All three are stone cold classics, IMO.
</tp>

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jNiGOb-b8A
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69YPMh9PIA4
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg8DhjQOtzM
if anyone would like to revisit them.)

--
Sid
(Make sure Matron is away when you reply)

Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 08:56:35 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
> <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>
>> Rosalind Mitchell <walneyrose@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 18:46:13 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Joe Kerr <joe_kerr@cheerful.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 22/02/2022 17:29, Penny wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 12:47:47 +0000, Kate B <elvira@nospam.demon.co.uk>
>>>>>> scrawled in the dust...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 22/02/2022 11:29, Jenny M Benson wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 22/02/2022 11:15, Kate B wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 22/02/2022 06:13, Sid Nuncius wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 21/02/2022 19:58, Nick Odell wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 17:33:36 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The latest song from our greenhouese is: ‘Three panels off my
>>>>>>>>>>>> roof’
>>>>>>>>>>>> but though there have been high winds there have not been any
>>>>>>>>>>>> Indians to my knowledge, still looking for the hidden cave…
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Are we still allowed to sing that song? I haven't heard it in a
>>>>>>>>>>> long time.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I hope not.  I've always heartily disliked it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What is it? Complete and utter whoosh here. Whooshier than Franklin
>>>>>>>>> who is quite douce in east Edinburgh.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/ya99pca2
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Still a whoosh, really. I don't think this has ever crossed my
>>>>>>> ears...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you never listen to 'Three way family favourites' (or whatever
>>>>>> weekend the kids requests prog was)?
>>>>>
>>>>> That sounds way more like late night adult entertainment. Junior Choice
>>>>> (or Children's Choice) would be more appropriate for children.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Two Way & Three Way Family Favourites was standard Sunday lunchtime
>>>> fodder in our ‘ouse,
>>>
>>> And ours. I can't hear "With A Song In My Heart" without thinking of lumpy
>>> Bisto gravy and brutally-boiled sprouts.
>>>
>>> Rosie
>>>
>>
>> ‘Lumpy Bisto gravy’??? I’ll have none of yer ‘lumpy’ round ‘ere’ thank you!
>> I used to stand in front of the stove and continuously stir the contents of
>> the tray so there were no lumps in our gravy, thank you very much! (But I
>> did have to stand back for a few seconds when the sprout / cabbage water
>> was added to the gravy mix) - I was only a nipper then. There was also
>> Billy Cotton’s Band Show….
>
> Wakey Wakey! We listened to radio on Sunday afternoons, my cousin
> Edith and I. Life with the Lions, A Life of Bliss and I think Billy
> Cotton was weekdays? With Kathy Umbrella singing.
>

BCBS was Sunday!

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

Sid Nuncius <nuncius@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> On 23/02/2022 08:18, Mike McMillan wrote:
>>
>> Then there was the ‘Freight Train’ - ‘Fooled ya, I fooled ya’ - carrying
>> undeclared live stock. (And I don’t mean Lonny Donnigan’s ‘Last Train to
>> San Fernando’ either.)
>
> <mode=tedious pedant>
> The lyrics you quote are from Lonnie Donegan's groundbreaking version of
> Rock Island Line, in which the undeclared cargo is pig iron; the
> livestock was his cover story. Freight Train is a different song by
> Nancy Whisky and Last Train To San Fernando was by Johnny Duncan & His
> Bluegrass Boys. All three are stone cold classics, IMO.
> </tp>
>
> (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jNiGOb-b8A
> and
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69YPMh9PIA4
> and
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg8DhjQOtzM
> if anyone would like to revisit them.)
>

I stand (well, sit actually, keyboard of iPad on my lap and all that)
corrected young Sid; I knew pig iron came into it somewhere [pigs is
livestock aren’t they so pig iron…) as to the artists involved - c’mon,
I’ve been to sleep a few times since then!!!!

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

On 23/02/2022 06:46, Sid Nuncius wrote:
> On 22/02/2022 19:37, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> On 22-Feb-22 8:02, John Ashby wrote:
>>> On 22/02/2022 06:13, Sid Nuncius wrote:
>>>> On 21/02/2022 19:58, Nick Odell wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 17:33:36 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
>>>>
>>>>>> The latest song from our greenhouese is: ‘Three panels off my
>>>>>> roof’ but
>>>>>> though there have been high winds there have not been any Indians
>>>>>> to my
>>>>>> knowledge, still looking for the hidden cave…
>>>>>
>>>>> Are we still allowed to sing that song? I haven't heard it in a long
>>>>> time.
>>>>
>>>> I hope not.  I've always heartily disliked it.
>>>
>>> Yet now you'll be hearing it all day in your head.
>>>
>>> I want to hear a version where when the last wheel comes off the
>>> Cherokee catch up with it and say ""Look, we've picked up all your
>>> wheels for you," put them back on the wagon, grease everything with
>>> buffalo tallow and bind the axles with rawhide thongs, then escort
>>> the settlers across the plain to the hidden cave for a feast and s
>>> pipe of peace.
>>
>> Issue a fine for driving a wagon in poor repair, and failing to stop
>> when instructed to do so by a highway patrol.
>
> And then presumably shoot the driver dead if he is black?
>

Slight swerve - this thread has reminded me of something I wondered
about recently.

I was watching an episode of Brokenwood Mysteries which is set in New
Zealand and on this occasion concerned a "historic village museum". A
white woman, talking to a Maori man, used the word "native" and he
objected strongly. AIUI (but I could be quite wrong) "Native American"
is a perfectly acceptable term to use to refer to a person who used to
be so wrongly called a "Red Indian." Is the term "Native New Zealander"
not equally acceptable? Or was it simply that the woman actually just
used the word "native" on its own, rather than "Native New Zealander",
or, better still, "Maori"?

--
Jenny M Benson
Wrexham, UK

On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 08:56:35 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan wrote:

> Rosalind Mitchell <walneyrose@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 18:46:13 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan wrote:
>>
>>> Joe Kerr <joe_kerr@cheerful.com> wrote:
>>>> On 22/02/2022 17:29, Penny wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 12:47:47 +0000, Kate B
>>>>> <elvira@nospam.demon.co.uk>
>>>>> scrawled in the dust...
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 22/02/2022 11:29, Jenny M Benson wrote:
>>>>>>> On 22/02/2022 11:15, Kate B wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 22/02/2022 06:13, Sid Nuncius wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 21/02/2022 19:58, Nick Odell wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 17:33:36 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The latest song from our greenhouese is: ‘Three panels off my
>>>>>>>>>>> roof’
>>>>>>>>>>> but though there have been high winds there have not been any
>>>>>>>>>>> Indians to my knowledge, still looking for the hidden cave…
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Are we still allowed to sing that song? I haven't heard it in a
>>>>>>>>>> long time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I hope not.  I've always heartily disliked it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What is it? Complete and utter whoosh here. Whooshier than
>>>>>>>> Franklin who is quite douce in east Edinburgh.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/ya99pca2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Still a whoosh, really. I don't think this has ever crossed my
>>>>>> ears...
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you never listen to 'Three way family favourites' (or whatever
>>>>> weekend the kids requests prog was)?
>>>>
>>>> That sounds way more like late night adult entertainment. Junior
>>>> Choice (or Children's Choice) would be more appropriate for children.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Two Way & Three Way Family Favourites was standard Sunday lunchtime
>>> fodder in our ‘ouse,
>>
>> And ours. I can't hear "With A Song In My Heart" without thinking of
>> lumpy Bisto gravy and brutally-boiled sprouts.
>>
>> Rosie
>>
>>
> ‘Lumpy Bisto gravy’??? I’ll have none of yer ‘lumpy’ round ‘ere’ thank
> you!
> I used to stand in front of the stove and continuously stir the contents
> of the tray so there were no lumps in our gravy, thank you very much!
> (But I did have to stand back for a few seconds when the sprout /
> cabbage water was added to the gravy mix) - I was only a nipper then.
> There was also Billy Cotton’s Band Show….

Git aht ov it!

You weren't my mother. To the end, invitations to dinner were to be
politely turned down. She did good cakes mind, and could make a reasonable
fist of egg and chips.

Rosie

On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 09:33:58 +0000, Vicky wrote:

> On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 08:56:35 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
> <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>
>>Rosalind Mitchell <walneyrose@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 18:46:13 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Joe Kerr <joe_kerr@cheerful.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 22/02/2022 17:29, Penny wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 12:47:47 +0000, Kate B
>>>>>> <elvira@nospam.demon.co.uk>
>>>>>> scrawled in the dust...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 22/02/2022 11:29, Jenny M Benson wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 22/02/2022 11:15, Kate B wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 22/02/2022 06:13, Sid Nuncius wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 21/02/2022 19:58, Nick Odell wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 17:33:36 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The latest song from our greenhouese is: ‘Three panels off
my
>>>>>>>>>>>> roof’ but though there have been high winds there have not
>>>>>>>>>>>> been any Indians to my knowledge, still looking for the
>>>>>>>>>>>> hidden cave…
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Are we still allowed to sing that song? I haven't heard it in
>>>>>>>>>>> a long time.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I hope not.  I've always heartily disliked it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What is it? Complete and utter whoosh here. Whooshier than
>>>>>>>>> Franklin who is quite douce in east Edinburgh.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/ya99pca2
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Still a whoosh, really. I don't think this has ever crossed my
>>>>>>> ears...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you never listen to 'Three way family favourites' (or whatever
>>>>>> weekend the kids requests prog was)?
>>>>>
>>>>> That sounds way more like late night adult entertainment. Junior
>>>>> Choice (or Children's Choice) would be more appropriate for
>>>>> children.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Two Way & Three Way Family Favourites was standard Sunday lunchtime
>>>> fodder in our ‘ouse,
>>>
>>> And ours. I can't hear "With A Song In My Heart" without thinking of
>>> lumpy Bisto gravy and brutally-boiled sprouts.
>>>
>>> Rosie
>>>
>>>
>>‘Lumpy Bisto gravy’??? I’ll have none of yer ‘lumpy’ round ‘ere’
thank
>>you!
>>I used to stand in front of the stove and continuously stir the contents
>>of the tray so there were no lumps in our gravy, thank you very much!
>>(But I did have to stand back for a few seconds when the sprout /
>>cabbage water was added to the gravy mix) - I was only a nipper then.
>>There was also Billy Cotton’s Band Show….
>
> Wakey Wakey! We listened to radio on Sunday afternoons, my cousin
> Edith and I. Life with the Lions, A Life of Bliss and I think Billy
> Cotton was weekdays? With Kathy Umbrella singing.

Kathy Kaye. And Alan Breeze for the low notes. And George Chisholm on
'bone.

The others a wee bit too early for me.

Rosie

On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 06:46:50 +0000, Sid Nuncius wrote:

> On 22/02/2022 19:37, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> On 22-Feb-22 8:02, John Ashby wrote:
>>> On 22/02/2022 06:13, Sid Nuncius wrote:
>>>> On 21/02/2022 19:58, Nick Odell wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 17:33:36 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
>>>>
>>>>>> The latest song from our greenhouese is: ‘Three panels off my roof’
>>>>>> but though there have been high winds there have not been any
>>>>>> Indians to my knowledge, still looking for the hidden cave…
>>>>>
>>>>> Are we still allowed to sing that song? I haven't heard it in a long
>>>>> time.
>>>>
>>>> I hope not.  I've always heartily disliked it.
>>>
>>> Yet now you'll be hearing it all day in your head.
>>>
>>> I want to hear a version where when the last wheel comes off the
>>> Cherokee catch up with it and say ""Look, we've picked up all your
>>> wheels for you," put them back on the wagon, grease everything with
>>> buffalo tallow and bind the axles with rawhide thongs, then escort the
>>> settlers across the plain to the hidden cave for a feast and s pipe of
>>> peace.
>>
>> Issue a fine for driving a wagon in poor repair, and failing to stop
>> when instructed to do so by a highway patrol.
>
> And then presumably shoot the driver dead if he is black?

Oh, BTN surely on top of BLM.

Rosie

On 23/02/2022 11:45, Rosalind Mitchell wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 06:46:50 +0000, Sid Nuncius wrote:
>
>> On 22/02/2022 19:37, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>> On 22-Feb-22 8:02, John Ashby wrote:
>>>> On 22/02/2022 06:13, Sid Nuncius wrote:
>>>>> On 21/02/2022 19:58, Nick Odell wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 17:33:36 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
>>>>>
>>>>>>> The latest song from our greenhouese is: ‘Three panels off my roof’
>>>>>>> but though there have been high winds there have not been any
>>>>>>> Indians to my knowledge, still looking for the hidden cave…
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are we still allowed to sing that song? I haven't heard it in a long
>>>>>> time.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope not.  I've always heartily disliked it.
>>>>
>>>> Yet now you'll be hearing it all day in your head.
>>>>
>>>> I want to hear a version where when the last wheel comes off the
>>>> Cherokee catch up with it and say ""Look, we've picked up all your
>>>> wheels for you," put them back on the wagon, grease everything with
>>>> buffalo tallow and bind the axles with rawhide thongs, then escort the
>>>> settlers across the plain to the hidden cave for a feast and s pipe of
>>>> peace.
>>>
>>> Issue a fine for driving a wagon in poor repair, and failing to stop
>>> when instructed to do so by a highway patrol.
>>
>> And then presumably shoot the driver dead if he is black?
>
> Oh, BTN surely on top of BLM.
>
> Rosie

Accepted.

john

On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 08:56:35 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
<toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> wrote:

>Rosalind Mitchell <walneyrose@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 18:46:13 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan wrote:
>>
>>> Joe Kerr <joe_kerr@cheerful.com> wrote:
>>>> On 22/02/2022 17:29, Penny wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 12:47:47 +0000, Kate B <elvira@nospam.demon.co.uk>
>>>>> scrawled in the dust...
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 22/02/2022 11:29, Jenny M Benson wrote:
>>>>>>> On 22/02/2022 11:15, Kate B wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 22/02/2022 06:13, Sid Nuncius wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 21/02/2022 19:58, Nick Odell wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 17:33:36 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The latest song from our greenhouese is: ‘Three panels off my
>>>>>>>>>>> roof’
>>>>>>>>>>> but though there have been high winds there have not been any
>>>>>>>>>>> Indians to my knowledge, still looking for the hidden cave…
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Are we still allowed to sing that song? I haven't heard it in a
>>>>>>>>>> long time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I hope not.  I've always heartily disliked it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What is it? Complete and utter whoosh here. Whooshier than Franklin
>>>>>>>> who is quite douce in east Edinburgh.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/ya99pca2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Still a whoosh, really. I don't think this has ever crossed my
>>>>>> ears...
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you never listen to 'Three way family favourites' (or whatever
>>>>> weekend the kids requests prog was)?
>>>>
>>>> That sounds way more like late night adult entertainment. Junior Choice
>>>> (or Children's Choice) would be more appropriate for children.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Two Way & Three Way Family Favourites was standard Sunday lunchtime
>>> fodder in our ‘ouse,
>>
>> And ours. I can't hear "With A Song In My Heart" without thinking of lumpy
>> Bisto gravy and brutally-boiled sprouts.
>>
>> Rosie
>>
>
>‘Lumpy Bisto gravy’??? I’ll have none of yer ‘lumpy’ round ‘ere’ thank you!
>I used to stand in front of the stove and continuously stir the contents of
>the tray so there were no lumps in our gravy, thank you very much! (But I
>did have to stand back for a few seconds when the sprout / cabbage water
>was added to the gravy mix) - I was only a nipper then. There was also
>Billy Cotton’s Band Show….

"At least Mother's gravy used to move around bit!" Tony Hancock,
Radio 4 Extra, a few minutes ago.

Nick

Nick Odell <nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 08:56:35 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
> <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>
>> Rosalind Mitchell <walneyrose@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 18:46:13 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Joe Kerr <joe_kerr@cheerful.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 22/02/2022 17:29, Penny wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 12:47:47 +0000, Kate B <elvira@nospam.demon.co.uk>
>>>>>> scrawled in the dust...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 22/02/2022 11:29, Jenny M Benson wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 22/02/2022 11:15, Kate B wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 22/02/2022 06:13, Sid Nuncius wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 21/02/2022 19:58, Nick Odell wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 17:33:36 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The latest song from our greenhouese is: ‘Three panels off my
>>>>>>>>>>>> roof’
>>>>>>>>>>>> but though there have been high winds there have not been any
>>>>>>>>>>>> Indians to my knowledge, still looking for the hidden cave…
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Are we still allowed to sing that song? I haven't heard it in a
>>>>>>>>>>> long time.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I hope not.  I've always heartily disliked it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What is it? Complete and utter whoosh here. Whooshier than Franklin
>>>>>>>>> who is quite douce in east Edinburgh.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/ya99pca2
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Still a whoosh, really. I don't think this has ever crossed my
>>>>>>> ears...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you never listen to 'Three way family favourites' (or whatever
>>>>>> weekend the kids requests prog was)?
>>>>>
>>>>> That sounds way more like late night adult entertainment. Junior Choice
>>>>> (or Children's Choice) would be more appropriate for children.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Two Way & Three Way Family Favourites was standard Sunday lunchtime
>>>> fodder in our ‘ouse,
>>>
>>> And ours. I can't hear "With A Song In My Heart" without thinking of lumpy
>>> Bisto gravy and brutally-boiled sprouts.
>>>
>>> Rosie
>>>
>>
>> ‘Lumpy Bisto gravy’??? I’ll have none of yer ‘lumpy’ round ‘ere’ thank you!
>> I used to stand in front of the stove and continuously stir the contents of
>> the tray so there were no lumps in our gravy, thank you very much! (But I
>> did have to stand back for a few seconds when the sprout / cabbage water
>> was added to the gravy mix) - I was only a nipper then. There was also
>> Billy Cotton’s Band Show….
>
> "At least Mother's gravy used to move around bit!" Tony Hancock,
> Radio 4 Extra, a few minutes ago.
>
>
> Nick
>

Whereas, we are to assume Hattie Jacque’s gravy didn’t move around at all!

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 09:23:09 +0000, Sid Nuncius wrote:

> Last Train To San Fernando was by Johnny Duncan & His Bluegrass Boys.

When I was little I wondered why the train was carrying sand for Nando's.
Now I know.

Rosie

On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 10:43:21 +0000, Jenny M Benson wrote:

> On 23/02/2022 06:46, Sid Nuncius wrote:
>> On 22/02/2022 19:37, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>> On 22-Feb-22 8:02, John Ashby wrote:
>>>> On 22/02/2022 06:13, Sid Nuncius wrote:
>>>>> On 21/02/2022 19:58, Nick Odell wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 17:33:36 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
>>>>>
>>>>>>> The latest song from our greenhouese is: ‘Three panels off my
>>>>>>> roof’ but though there have been high winds there have not been
>>>>>>> any Indians to my knowledge, still looking for the hidden cave…
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are we still allowed to sing that song? I haven't heard it in a
>>>>>> long time.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope not.  I've always heartily disliked it.
>>>>
>>>> Yet now you'll be hearing it all day in your head.
>>>>
>>>> I want to hear a version where when the last wheel comes off the
>>>> Cherokee catch up with it and say ""Look, we've picked up all your
>>>> wheels for you," put them back on the wagon, grease everything with
>>>> buffalo tallow and bind the axles with rawhide thongs, then escort
>>>> the settlers across the plain to the hidden cave for a feast and s
>>>> pipe of peace.
>>>
>>> Issue a fine for driving a wagon in poor repair, and failing to stop
>>> when instructed to do so by a highway patrol.
>>
>> And then presumably shoot the driver dead if he is black?
>>
>>
> Slight swerve - this thread has reminded me of something I wondered
> about recently.
>
> I was watching an episode of Brokenwood Mysteries which is set in New
> Zealand and on this occasion concerned a "historic village museum". A
> white woman, talking to a Maori man, used the word "native" and he
> objected strongly. AIUI (but I could be quite wrong) "Native American"
> is a perfectly acceptable term to use to refer to a person who used to
> be so wrongly called a "Red Indian." Is the term "Native New Zealander"
> not equally acceptable? Or was it simply that the woman actually just
> used the word "native" on its own, rather than "Native New Zealander",
> or, better still, "Maori"?

AIUI the Māori arrived not very long before the Europeans, so are hardly
indigenous. But anyway the word "native", as in "the natives are restless
tonight" does have unfortunate colonial connotations that taint the
original meaning.

Rosie

Rosalind Mitchell <walneyrose@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 09:23:09 +0000, Sid Nuncius wrote:
>
>> Last Train To San Fernando was by Johnny Duncan & His Bluegrass Boys.
>
> When I was little I wondered why the train was carrying sand for Nando's.
> Now I know.
>
> Rosie
>

It wasn’t for the chicken but for the grits that formed the side dish.

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 12:47:47 +0000, Kate B <elvira@nospam.demon.co.uk>
> scrawled in the dust...
>
>> On 22/02/2022 11:29, Jenny M Benson wrote:
>>> On 22/02/2022 11:15, Kate B wrote:
>>>> On 22/02/2022 06:13, Sid Nuncius wrote:
>>>>> On 21/02/2022 19:58, Nick Odell wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 17:33:36 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
>>>>>
>>>>>>> The latest song from our greenhouese is: ‘Three panels off my roof’
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> though there have been high winds there have not been any Indians
>>>>>>> to my
>>>>>>> knowledge, still looking for the hidden cave…
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are we still allowed to sing that song? I haven't heard it in a long
>>>>>> time.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope not.  I've always heartily disliked it.
>>>>
>>>> What is it? Complete and utter whoosh here. Whooshier than Franklin
>>>> who is quite douce in east Edinburgh.
>>>>
>>> https://tinyurl.com/ya99pca2
>>>
>> Still a whoosh, really. I don't think this has ever crossed my ears...
>
> Did you never listen to 'Three way family favourites' (or whatever weekend
> the kids requests prog was)?

Junior Choice with Ed Stewart.

Sincerely Chris

Mike McMillan <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> wrote:
> Rosalind Mitchell <walneyrose@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 18:46:13 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan wrote:
>>
>>> Joe Kerr <joe_kerr@cheerful.com> wrote:
>>>> On 22/02/2022 17:29, Penny wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 12:47:47 +0000, Kate B <elvira@nospam.demon.co.uk>
>>>>> scrawled in the dust...
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 22/02/2022 11:29, Jenny M Benson wrote:
>>>>>>> On 22/02/2022 11:15, Kate B wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 22/02/2022 06:13, Sid Nuncius wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 21/02/2022 19:58, Nick Odell wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 17:33:36 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The latest song from our greenhouese is: ‘Three panels off my
>>>>>>>>>>> roof’
>>>>>>>>>>> but though there have been high winds there have not been any
>>>>>>>>>>> Indians to my knowledge, still looking for the hidden cave…
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Are we still allowed to sing that song? I haven't heard it in a
>>>>>>>>>> long time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I hope not.  I've always heartily disliked it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What is it? Complete and utter whoosh here. Whooshier than Franklin
>>>>>>>> who is quite douce in east Edinburgh.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/ya99pca2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Still a whoosh, really. I don't think this has ever crossed my
>>>>>> ears...
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you never listen to 'Three way family favourites' (or whatever
>>>>> weekend the kids requests prog was)?
>>>>
>>>> That sounds way more like late night adult entertainment. Junior Choice
>>>> (or Children's Choice) would be more appropriate for children.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Two Way & Three Way Family Favourites was standard Sunday lunchtime
>>> fodder in our ‘ouse,
>>
>> And ours. I can't hear "With A Song In My Heart" without thinking of lumpy
>> Bisto gravy and brutally-boiled sprouts.
>>
>> Rosie
>>
>
> ‘Lumpy Bisto gravy’??? I’ll have none of yer ‘lumpy’ round ‘ere’ thank you!
> I used to stand in front of the stove and continuously stir the contents of
> the tray so there were no lumps in our gravy, thank you very much! (But I
> did have to stand back for a few seconds when the sprout / cabbage water
> was added to the gravy mix) - I was only a nipper then. There was also
> Billy Cotton’s Band Show….
>

No wonder he’s such a good cook, taught at both parents apron strings!

Sincerely Chris

Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 06:45:38 +0000, Sid Nuncius
> <nuncius@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 22/02/2022 20:18, Penny wrote:
>>
>>>> Junior Choice
>>>> (or Children's Choice) would be more appropriate for children.
>>>
>>> Them's the fellas.
>>
>> Junior Choice (with Ed Stewart, IIRC) was a programme which began when
>> that newfangled Radio 1 started in 1967. My childhood listening before
>> that was its predecessor, Children's Favourites with Uncle Mac on the
>> Light Programme.
>>
>> (Uncle Mac played Last Train To San Fernando for me when I was about six
>> years old after I got my dad to write a letter requesting it. I was
>> thrilled beyond words when I heard my name on the wireless.)
>
> I listened to Uncle Mac too.
>

Life in boarding school would never replace a family but my second school
where I went just before my 12th birthday was very generous compared to my
first one.

Not only were we allowed to bring personal radios, and our own record
players or portable tape recorders.

At weekends we girls were usually allowed a radio in each meal table at
breakfast and for “Top of the Pops”. It was a mean person or teacher who
stopped us hearing those. We did have them at lunch on Sundays as well :
I personally had two girlfriends whose parents were posted abroad, there
may have been more.

Sincerely Chris

On 23.2.22 14:37, Rosalind Mitchell wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 09:23:09 +0000, Sid Nuncius wrote:
>
>> Last Train To San Fernando was by Johnny Duncan & His Bluegrass Boys.
>
> When I was little I wondered why the train was carrying sand for Nando's.
> Now I know.
>
> Rosie

Unless you are someone else I suggest that there were no Nando's when
you were little.

We took the grandchildren out and went to a Nando's for the first time.
The good lady wife gathered the numerous items to be ordered. Then
she looked around for a waiter type person to take the order. After
some time one of the more frequent Nando visitors in the family advised
her that she had to go to the counter to order. Needless to say we have
never again visited a Nando.

--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics

On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 06:46:50 +0000, Sid Nuncius <nuncius@hotmail.co.uk>
scrawled in the dust...

>On 22/02/2022 19:37, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> On 22-Feb-22 8:02, John Ashby wrote:
>>>
>>> I want to hear a version where when the last wheel comes off the
>>> Cherokee catch up with it and say ""Look, we've picked up all your
>>> wheels for you," put them back on the wagon, grease everything with
>>> buffalo tallow and bind the axles with rawhide thongs, then escort the
>>> settlers across the plain to the hidden cave for a feast and s pipe of
>>> peace.
>>
>> Issue a fine for driving a wagon in poor repair, and failing to stop
>> when instructed to do so by a highway patrol.
>
>And then presumably shoot the driver dead if he is black?

BTN
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959