On 1/4/2022 1:02 AM, Pete Fisher wrote:
> On 04/01/2022 08:38, sweller wrote:
>> Pete Fisher wrote:
>>
>>> Nothing acts faster (Tm. Anadin) than Plusgas IME
>>
>> It's good but I've found the graphite pentrating oil from Toolstation
>> to be just as effective - and a lot cheaper.
>>
>
> Personal recommendation is always welcome. I shall JFGI.
>
I've been collecting plastic tubs, to use for various things. I'm trying
to take off the labels, but the glue is stubborn. Dish soap, vinegar,
alcohol, WD40, peanut butter, nothing that Google suggests works.
What says the FOAK?

--
The erstwhile Thomas
FJR1300, R1200GS, ST1100 (in memoriam)

In article <sr7q55$n7j$1@dont-email.me>, Turby says...
>
> On 1/4/2022 1:02 AM, Pete Fisher wrote:
> > On 04/01/2022 08:38, sweller wrote:
> >> Pete Fisher wrote:
> >>
> >>> Nothing acts faster (Tm. Anadin) than Plusgas IME
> >>
> >> It's good but I've found the graphite pentrating oil from Toolstation
> >> to be just as effective - and a lot cheaper.
> >>
> >
> > Personal recommendation is always welcome. I shall JFGI.
> >
> I've been collecting plastic tubs, to use for various things. I'm trying
> to take off the labels, but the glue is stubborn. Dish soap, vinegar,
> alcohol, WD40, peanut butter, nothing that Google suggests works.
> What says the FOAK?

Zippo lighter fluid

petrolcan <petrolcan@gmail.com> wrote in
news:MPG.3c418032975bd0fa989764@news.eternal-september.org:

> In article <sr7q55$n7j$1@dont-email.me>, Turby says...
>>
>> On 1/4/2022 1:02 AM, Pete Fisher wrote:
>> > On 04/01/2022 08:38, sweller wrote:
>> >> Pete Fisher wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Nothing acts faster (Tm. Anadin) than Plusgas IME
>> >>
>> >> It's good but I've found the graphite pentrating oil from
>> >> Toolstation to be just as effective - and a lot cheaper.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Personal recommendation is always welcome. I shall JFGI.
>> >
>> I've been collecting plastic tubs, to use for various things. I'm
>> trying to take off the labels, but the glue is stubborn. Dish soap,
>> vinegar, alcohol, WD40, peanut butter, nothing that Google suggests
>> works. What says the FOAK?
>
> Zippo lighter fluid and a spark
>

corrected

Turby <xsurf@xmail.com> wrote:
> On 1/4/2022 1:02 AM, Pete Fisher wrote:
>> On 04/01/2022 08:38, sweller wrote:
>>> Pete Fisher wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nothing acts faster (Tm. Anadin) than Plusgas IME
>>>
>>> It's good but I've found the graphite pentrating oil from Toolstation
>>> to be just as effective - and a lot cheaper.
>>>
>>
>> Personal recommendation is always welcome. I shall JFGI.
>>
> I've been collecting plastic tubs, to use for various things. I'm trying
> to take off the labels, but the glue is stubborn. Dish soap, vinegar,
> alcohol, WD40, peanut butter, nothing that Google suggests works.
> What says the FOAK?

Goo Gone, it actually does work.

--
FJR1300A, GL1000, KLR650A6F, EX250J9A, DR200SE, Vespa Ciao

On 07/01/2022 06:23 Turby penned these words:
> On 1/4/2022 1:02 AM, Pete Fisher wrote:
>>
> I've been collecting plastic tubs, to use for various things. I'm trying
> to take off the labels, but the glue is stubborn. Dish soap, vinegar,
> alcohol, WD40, peanut butter, nothing that Google suggests works.
> What says the FOAK?

I have a plastic measuring jug I bought which has the same problem. Cannot get
the gunk off short of an angle grinder. I resorted to using small piece of cling
film and sticking it to the glue which at least means it does not stick to my
hand everytime.

--
Ian

"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of
the last priest"

On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 14:23:33 -0800, Turby <xsurf@xmail.com> wrote:

>On 1/4/2022 1:02 AM, Pete Fisher wrote:
>> On 04/01/2022 08:38, sweller wrote:
>>> Pete Fisher wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nothing acts faster (Tm. Anadin) than Plusgas IME
>>>
>>> It's good but I've found the graphite pentrating oil from Toolstation
>>> to be just as effective - and a lot cheaper.
>>>
>>
>> Personal recommendation is always welcome. I shall JFGI.
>>
>I've been collecting plastic tubs, to use for various things. I'm trying
>to take off the labels, but the glue is stubborn. Dish soap, vinegar,
>alcohol, WD40, peanut butter, nothing that Google suggests works.
>What says the FOAK?

Surgical spirit?

I think it's called "rubbing alcohol" chez vous.
--
Salad Dodger
1690 FLHTK;GL1800D
Previously ...
CB1300SA8;GL1800A6;GL1500SEV;CBR1100XXX;
CBR1000FL;CBX1000Z;GPz750R;Z750E1;Z650C2;
KH500A8;KH250B3;TS250c;TS185c.

On 1/6/2022 4:09 PM, Salad Dodger wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 14:23:33 -0800, Turby <xsurf@xmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> (rubbing) alcohol, , nothing that Google suggests works.
>
> Surgical spirit?
>
> I think it's called "rubbing alcohol" chez vous.

--
The erstwhile Thomas
FJR1300, R1200GS, ST1100 (in memoriam)

On 6 Jan 2022 20:02:00 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

>Pipl wrote:
>
>> > Oh, and fasteners on 1970s bikes.
>>
>> Amen to that. Funnily enough, I barely use my impact screwdriver these
>> days.

>I stopped using my impact driver when I stopped having 1970s Japanese
>bikes.

This ^

The japs themselves moved to allen head fasteners in the 80s, so the
problem kinda went away
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

On 07/01/2022 08:21, Champ wrote:
> On 6 Jan 2022 20:02:00 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Pipl wrote:
>>
>>>> Oh, and fasteners on 1970s bikes.
>>>
>>> Amen to that. Funnily enough, I barely use my impact screwdriver these
>>> days.
>
>> I stopped using my impact driver when I stopped having 1970s Japanese
>> bikes.
>
> This ^
>
> The japs themselves moved to allen head fasteners in the 80s, so the
> problem kinda went away

One of the things I like about Italian machines is that they never
really got in to 'cross head' fasteners. Lots of socket head screws on
Morinis from 1975. One reason I wanted a 90's Gilera was seeing a Nouvo
Saturno on Ramsey seafront. Even the Small Gilera badge on the 'mono
posto' was secured by socket head screws.

50's Gileras have only 'cheese head' or hex head fasteners. Same for
1930s Sunbeams but the possible threads are a night mare (BSF, BSW ?
Cycle, BSP even!)

I like the combination flanged hex/torx heads KTM and therefore
Husqvarna use these days.

Haven't had to use my 'Vessel' for years.

--
Moto Morini 2C/375, Moto Morini 2C/350
Gilera 175 Sport, Husqvarna 401 Svartpilen
1937 Sunbeam Model 14 250 Sports
"Do not adjust your mind, there is a fault in the reality"

On Thursday, 6 January 2022 at 20:02:54 UTC, sweller wrote:
> WUN wrote:
>
> > > all homemade. The biggest sports the world's worst welding
> >
> > <Thud>
> >
> > Oh look! A gauntlet.... I challenge you to a "pigeon-shit off" sirrah!
> I think that gauntlet went home with Steve Packer's original outfit.

Wish I'd taken a photo of it. The lower, rear, sidecar mounting was attached
to the centre-stand bracket with mig-wire, twenty or more pieces seemingly fused at
one end to the bracket and at the other to the 'eye' that the sidecar mounted to...
Once I'd taken it apart it just about wobbled off without needing (much) attention from
the angle grinder.

I'd like to point out it was like that when I bought it and not my work (since at the time I
didn't own a mig welder and, anyway, I've a neighbour who learnt his trade in the shipyards
of Gdansk and is an *excellent* welder.)

Pete Fisher wrote:

> > The japs themselves moved to allen head fasteners in the 80s, so the
> > problem kinda went away
>
> One of the things I like about Italian machines is that they never
> really got in to 'cross head' fasteners. Lots of socket head screws
> on Morinis from 1975. One reason I wanted a 90's Gilera was seeing a
> Nouvo Saturno on Ramsey seafront. Even the Small Gilera badge on the
> 'mono posto' was secured by socket head screws.

70s Guzzis the same.

> 50's Gileras have only 'cheese head' or hex head fasteners. Same for
> 1930s Sunbeams but the possible threads are a night mare (BSF, BSW ?
> Cycle, BSP even!)

Some of the old BMC cars I've worked on had a unusual array of threads
and heads.

> I like the combination flanged hex/torx heads KTM and therefore
> Husqvarna use these days.

I'm looking at buying a Husqvarna...

--
Simon

On 07/01/2022 10:46, Stephen Packer wrote:
> On Thursday, 6 January 2022 at 20:02:54 UTC, sweller wrote:
>> WUN wrote:
>>
>>>> all homemade. The biggest sports the world's worst welding
>>>
>>> <Thud>
>>>
>>> Oh look! A gauntlet.... I challenge you to a "pigeon-shit off" sirrah!
>> I think that gauntlet went home with Steve Packer's original outfit.
>
> Wish I'd taken a photo of it. The lower, rear, sidecar mounting was attached
> to the centre-stand bracket with mig-wire, twenty or more pieces seemingly fused at
> one end to the bracket and at the other to the 'eye' that the sidecar mounted to...
> Once I'd taken it apart it just about wobbled off without needing (much) attention from
> the angle grinder.
>
> I'd like to point out it was like that when I bought it and not my work (since at the time I
> didn't own a mig welder and, anyway, I've a neighbour who learnt his trade in the shipyards
> of Gdansk and is an *excellent* welder.)

Is that the one we 'admired' in the car park of Prescott speed hill
climb many moons ago?

IIRC the bike was leaning IN rather than OUT.

--
Moto Morini 2C/375, Moto Morini 2C/350
Gilera 175 Sport, Husqvarna 401 Svartpilen
1937 Sunbeam Model 14 250 Sports
"Do not adjust your mind, there is a fault in the reality"

On 07/01/2022 10:46, sweller wrote:
> Pete Fisher wrote:
>
>>> The japs themselves moved to allen head fasteners in the 80s, so the
>>> problem kinda went away
>>
>> One of the things I like about Italian machines is that they never
>> really got in to 'cross head' fasteners. Lots of socket head screws
>> on Morinis from 1975. One reason I wanted a 90's Gilera was seeing a
>> Nouvo Saturno on Ramsey seafront. Even the Small Gilera badge on the
>> 'mono posto' was secured by socket head screws.
>
> 70s Guzzis the same.
>
>
>> 50's Gileras have only 'cheese head' or hex head fasteners. Same for
>> 1930s Sunbeams but the possible threads are a night mare (BSF, BSW ?
>> Cycle, BSP even!)
>
> Some of the old BMC cars I've worked on had a unusual array of threads
> and heads.
>
>
>> I like the combination flanged hex/torx heads KTM and therefore
>> Husqvarna use these days.
>
> I'm looking at buying a Husqvarna...
>

Hmm. Proper TE jobby or one of the n01 range?

--
Moto Morini 2C/375, Moto Morini 2C/350
Gilera 175 Sport, Husqvarna 401 Svartpilen
1937 Sunbeam Model 14 250 Sports
"Do not adjust your mind, there is a fault in the reality"

On 05/01/2022 20:29, Stephen Packer wrote:
> On Wednesday, 5 January 2022 at 18:38:11 UTC, siwilson wrote:
>> On 04/01/2022 22:33, YTC#1 wrote:
>
>>> When the seal went again a couple of days later I let the oil piss out
>>> and then rode it without.
>>>
>>>
>> What's wrong with using a hammer and a screwdriver?
>
> If it's the oil seal I suspect it's likely to damage the 'integrity' of it.
>
> Doesn't everyone have four or five different sized fork seal drivers?

<re-reads> oh, I assumed he meant for the removal of the seal. I
wouldn't use a screwdriver to fit one.

--
/Simon

Pete Fisher wrote:

> >
> > I'm looking at buying a Husqvarna...
> >
>
> Hmm. Proper TE jobby or one of the n01 range?

901 Norden

--
Simon

Pete Fisher wrote:

> > Wish I'd taken a photo of it. The lower, rear, sidecar mounting
> > was attached to the centre-stand bracket with mig-wire, twenty or
> > more pieces seemingly fused at one end to the bracket and at the
> > other to the 'eye' that the sidecar mounted to... Once I'd taken
> > it apart it just about wobbled off without needing (much) attention
> > from the angle grinder.

> Is that the one we 'admired' in the car park of Prescott speed hill
> climb many moons ago?
>
> IIRC the bike was leaning IN rather than OUT.

That's the one.

--
Simon

On 7 Jan 2022 14:32:03 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

>Pete Fisher wrote:
>
>> >
>> > I'm looking at buying a Husqvarna...
>> >
>>
>> Hmm. Proper TE jobby or one of the n01 range?
>
>901 Norden

It'll be alright on the night, I suppose.
--
Salad Dodger
1690 FLHTK;GL1800D
Previously ...
CB1300SA8;GL1800A6;GL1500SEV;CBR1100XXX;
CBR1000FL;CBX1000Z;GPz750R;Z750E1;Z650C2;
KH500A8;KH250B3;TS250c;TS185c.

On Friday, 7 January 2022 at 14:32:57 UTC, sweller wrote:
> Pete Fisher wrote:
>
> > > Wish I'd taken a photo of it. The lower, rear, sidecar mounting
> > > was attached to the centre-stand bracket with mig-wire, twenty or
> > > more pieces seemingly fused at one end to the bracket and at the
> > > other to the 'eye' that the sidecar mounted to... Once I'd taken
> > > it apart it just about wobbled off without needing (much) attention
> > > from the angle grinder.
> > Is that the one we 'admired' in the car park of Prescott speed hill
> > climb many moons ago?
> >
> > IIRC the bike was leaning IN rather than OUT.
> That's the one.

First sidecar I rode on the road. Well, *mostly* on the road. I'm trying
to remember *when* it was and suspect it was somewhere around 2007
to 2008. Ish.

Collected it from somewhere north of Birmingham and on my way to
the motorway braking for the first junction suddenly I'm on the wrong side
of the road heading towards a van! Correct and get my breath back,
turn right, accelerate away and suddenly the sidecar wheel's mounting
the pavement.

Then... a few miles later I'm on the motorway thinking I've mastered
its foibles I find it has a bit of a stutter at 65 and wants to cruise
around 70. Come up behind a car doing about 65, pull into third lane
and accelerate away deciding to continue at a happy 80 and pass
another vehicle. A BMW car appears in my mirrors probably doing
over 90 bearing down on me and suddenly I'm slowing as if I'm
running out of fuel... car on the inside oblivious to why I'm slowing
or even that I'm slowing... I fiddle with the fuel tap and switch it to
reserve, no difference. Fuck. Indicate left and wait for car on my
inside to get in front of me as the BMW jockey menaces me by trying
to adhere to the rear of the outfit.

Once I'm in the second lane at 65 or so it starts firing on all four again
but not running cleanly, try to overtake after a while and it struggles.
Pull in again and slow to 60, continuing to Prescott without any further
incident, or nothing that's seared in my memory.

Slow journey home on A roads.

Investigated the issue and it was the fuel tank was full of crap limiting
the flow. Cleaned the tank, rebuilt the tap and all happy.

A 500cc four really isn't the best bike for sidecar duties though.

K100 was great, would have been even greater with a RHS mounted
chair (for ease of maintenance). Must get another outfit one day,
maybe when my hips go...

On 07/01/2022 15:53, Salad Dodger wrote:
> On 7 Jan 2022 14:32:03 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Pete Fisher wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking at buying a Husqvarna...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hmm. Proper TE jobby or one of the n01 range?
>>
>> 901 Norden
>
> It'll be alright on the night, I suppose.

I've got a crush on you.

--
/Simon

On 07/01/2022 14:32, sweller wrote:
> Pete Fisher wrote:
>
>>>
>>> I'm looking at buying a Husqvarna...
>>>
>>
>> Hmm. Proper TE jobby or one of the n01 range?
>
> 901 Norden
>

Ooh!
If it's twice as fast as a 401 it should 'make progress'.

--
Moto Morini 2C/375, Moto Morini 2C/350
Gilera 175 Sport, Husqvarna 401 Svartpilen
1937 Sunbeam Model 14 250 Sports
"Do not adjust your mind, there is a fault in the reality"

Turby wrote:

> On 1/4/2022 1:02 AM, Pete Fisher wrote:
> > On 04/01/2022 08:38, sweller wrote:
> > > Pete Fisher wrote:
> > >
> > > > Nothing acts faster (Tm. Anadin) than Plusgas IME
> > >
> > > It's good but I've found the graphite pentrating oil from
> > > Toolstation to be just as effective - and a lot cheaper.
> > >
> >
> > Personal recommendation is always welcome. I shall JFGI.
> >
> I've been collecting plastic tubs, to use for various things. I'm
> trying to take off the labels, but the glue is stubborn. Dish soap,
> vinegar, alcohol, WD40, peanut butter, nothing that Google suggests
> works. What says the FOAK?

White spirit, it's what is used in bottles of 'sticker remover'

--
Geoff

On 07/01/2022 19:12, geoffC wrote:
> Turby wrote:
>
>> On 1/4/2022 1:02 AM, Pete Fisher wrote:
>>> On 04/01/2022 08:38, sweller wrote:
>>>> Pete Fisher wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Nothing acts faster (Tm. Anadin) than Plusgas IME
>>>>
>>>> It's good but I've found the graphite pentrating oil from
>>>> Toolstation to be just as effective - and a lot cheaper.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Personal recommendation is always welcome. I shall JFGI.
>>>
>> I've been collecting plastic tubs, to use for various things. I'm
>> trying to take off the labels, but the glue is stubborn. Dish soap,
>> vinegar, alcohol, WD40, peanut butter, nothing that Google suggests
>> works. What says the FOAK?
>
> White spirit, it's what is used in bottles of 'sticker remover'

If that doesn't work then try nail varnish remover. Apply to the surface
of the label (if paper) and it soaks through and still softens the glue.

--
Bruce Horrocks
FJR1300AS

Turby <xsurf@xmail.com> wrote:

> I've been collecting plastic tubs, to use for various things. I'm trying
> to take off the labels, but the glue is stubborn. Dish soap, vinegar,
> alcohol, WD40, peanut butter, nothing that Google suggests works.
> What says the FOAK?

The glue can obviously be many different things.

One thing that has worked very well on a number of semi-hard plastic
bottles I want to re-use is filling them with very hot water; then the
glue softens enough to stick to the label, when peeled off carefully.

--
ts // scrap vehicle to send e-mail
Finally four Boxers!

On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 01:28:36 +0000, Bruce Horrocks
<07.013@scorecrow.com> wrote:

>On 07/01/2022 19:12, geoffC wrote:
>> Turby wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/4/2022 1:02 AM, Pete Fisher wrote:
>>>> On 04/01/2022 08:38, sweller wrote:
>>>>> Pete Fisher wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing acts faster (Tm. Anadin) than Plusgas IME
>>>>>
>>>>> It's good but I've found the graphite pentrating oil from
>>>>> Toolstation to be just as effective - and a lot cheaper.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Personal recommendation is always welcome. I shall JFGI.
>>>>
>>> I've been collecting plastic tubs, to use for various things. I'm
>>> trying to take off the labels, but the glue is stubborn. Dish soap,
>>> vinegar, alcohol, WD40, peanut butter, nothing that Google suggests
>>> works. What says the FOAK?
>>
>> White spirit, it's what is used in bottles of 'sticker remover'
>
>If that doesn't work then try nail varnish remover. Apply to the surface
>of the label (if paper) and it soaks through and still softens the glue.

Or simply acetone, if you can get it.

--
Colin Irvine
FJR1300A

On 06/01/2022 21:46, Pipl wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 08:33:46 -0800 (PST), WUN <nigel.eaton@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 9:20:02 PM UTC, Pipl wrote:
>>
>>> all homemade. The biggest sports the world's worst welding
>>
>> <Thud>
>>
>> Oh look! A gauntlet.... I challenge you to a "pigeon-shit off" sirrah!
>
> <smug> Hold my beer.

When we were building SMIDSY first time round, Andy the Pugh and I were
up in Slaithwaite for a building session. He'd welded a few of the
joins, then persuaded me to try welding one. Then he got out the angle
grinder, took the random line of weld back off (which ISTR was actually
quite neat, just completely functionless) and put it where it should
have been.