On 10/04/2022 23:59, David Brooks adjusted his post to read:-
>
> I've just run another check using EasyFind and there are STILL items
> from Etrecheck left active on my machine.

*I have now deleted them*.

Here they are in my Waste Bin! https://ibb.co/7kr7mNK

Something odd about this!

On Apr 10, 2022 at 4:07:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<UqJ4K.551383$sb1.72491@fx11.ams1>:

> On 10/04/2022 23:59, David Brooks adjusted his post to read:-
>>
>> I've just run another check using EasyFind and there are STILL items
>> from Etrecheck left active on my machine.
>
> *I have now deleted them*.
>
> Here they are in my Waste Bin! https://ibb.co/7kr7mNK
>
> Something odd about this!

What apps do not leave such things behind?

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 11/04/2022 00:54, Snit wrote:
> On Apr 10, 2022 at 4:07:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <UqJ4K.551383$sb1.72491@fx11.ams1>:
>
>> On 10/04/2022 23:59, David Brooks adjusted his post to read:-
>>>
>>> I've just run another check using EasyFind and there are STILL items
>>> from Etrecheck left active on my machine.
>>
>> *I have now deleted them*.
>>
>> Here they are in my Waste Bin! https://ibb.co/7kr7mNK
>>
>> Something odd about this!
>
> What apps do not leave such things behind?

By that comment you appear to think that they are legitimate!

They MUST be there for a reason.

WHAT reason?

After serious thinking David Brooks wrote :
> On 10/04/2022 23:59, David Brooks adjusted his post to read:-
>>
>> I've just run another check using EasyFind and there are STILL items from
>> Etrecheck left active on my machine.
>
> *I have now deleted them*.
>
> Here they are in my Waste Bin! https://ibb.co/7kr7mNK
>
> Something odd about this!

Maybe that's the point. They gave you the opportunity to decide for
yourself whether or not you wanted to keep them.

On 2022-04-11, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 11/04/2022 00:54, Snit wrote:
>> On Apr 10, 2022 at 4:07:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <UqJ4K.551383$sb1.72491@fx11.ams1>:
>>
>>> On 10/04/2022 23:59, David Brooks adjusted his post to read:-
>>>>
>>>> I've just run another check using EasyFind and there are STILL items
>>>> from Etrecheck left active on my machine.
>>>
>>> *I have now deleted them*.
>>>
>>> Here they are in my Waste Bin! https://ibb.co/7kr7mNK
>>>
>>> Something odd about this!
>>
>> What apps do not leave such things behind?
>
> By that comment you appear to think that they are legitimate!
>
> They MUST be there for a reason.
>
> WHAT reason?

Your usual stance is that they are illegitimate. This has happened
throughout a large chunk of your computing life, how many times has it
*actually* been a problem?

On 11 Apr 2022, FromTheRafters wrote
(in article <t314a8$c1c$1@dont-email.me>):

> After serious thinking David Brooks wrote :
> > On 10/04/2022 23:59, David Brooks adjusted his post to read:-
> > >
> > > I've just run another check using EasyFind and there are STILL items from
> > > Etrecheck left active on my machine.
> >
> > *I have now deleted them*.
> >
> > Here they are in my Waste Bin! https://ibb.co/7kr7mNK
> >
> > Something odd about this!
>
> Maybe that's the point. They gave you the opportunity to decide for
> yourself whether or not you wanted to keep them.

I haven’t clicked the vile one’s link, but I suppose that the items are
things like the ClamX folders and contents thereof in ~/Library/Application
Support and Users/Library/Application Support. These would include settings
files, plists, and the like. On this system, the ClamXAV folder in
~/Library/Application Support takes up a whopping 3.4 MB and was last accessed, prior to today, in December 2020. The uk.co.canimaansoftware.clamxav folder, in
Users/Library/Application Support, uses 4kB for a single 239 byte plist; 4kB
is the minimum size of a single file on a 1 TB APFS-formatted system. I can
be sure that there are no hidden invisible files in there, not even a
..DS_Store file as I’ve never opened that folder in the Finder... and going
into the Terminal and listing files also shows just the plist. That file has
not been accessed since March 2016.

I can afford to leave 3.4 MB or so of old files; it’s a 1 TB volume, with
301 GB of available space.

The files in the Application Support folder are there so that if I ever
reinstall Clam, I don’t have to recreate all my settings, some/most of them
are already set.If I did want to do a complete cold install, deleting the two
folders in Application Support would be trivial, and would allow a clean
install.

There should be one more file; that shows that the free trial has been
complete. It is invisible, and I won’t be telling ol’ yellowstain its
name or location, so that he can try to cheat and get a second free trial.

The Terminal knows all, sees all... if you know what you’re doing, which
leaves the idiot out, he hasn’t got a clue.

It should be noted that my ~/Library/Application Support folder has files and
folders dating back to 2005, some of which belong to applications that I
haven’t used in years. (theUsers/Library/Application Support folder only
has stuff dating to 2013; an Adobe folder, currently empty, as I nuked all
things Adobe on this machine with extreme prejudice.) I could clean it (them)
out, but why bother? It’s a 1 TB volume, and the files/folders add up to a
few tens of megabytes. I years past, when I had smaller drives, I cleaned up
the various files left behind after deleting apps, but I haven’t bothered
in a long time. They don’t do anything (checking to see if they do is
trivial...) and they don’t take up significant space.
He’s being an idiot. As usual.

On Apr 11, 2022 at 5:53:02 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<t318bd$414$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

> On 2022-04-11, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 11/04/2022 00:54, Snit wrote:
>>> On Apr 10, 2022 at 4:07:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <UqJ4K.551383$sb1.72491@fx11.ams1>:
>>>
>>>> On 10/04/2022 23:59, David Brooks adjusted his post to read:-
>>>>>
>>>>> I've just run another check using EasyFind and there are STILL items
>>>>> from Etrecheck left active on my machine.
>>>>
>>>> *I have now deleted them*.
>>>>
>>>> Here they are in my Waste Bin! https://ibb.co/7kr7mNK
>>>>
>>>> Something odd about this!
>>>
>>> What apps do not leave such things behind?
>>
>> By that comment you appear to think that they are legitimate!
>>
>> They MUST be there for a reason.
>>
>> WHAT reason?
>
> Your usual stance is that they are illegitimate. This has happened
> throughout a large chunk of your computing life, how many times has it
> *actually* been a problem?

More of your drama.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Apr 11, 2022 at 2:14:53 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<ikS4K.551384$sb1.275030@fx11.ams1>:

> On 11/04/2022 00:54, Snit wrote:
>> On Apr 10, 2022 at 4:07:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <UqJ4K.551383$sb1.72491@fx11.ams1>:
>>
>>> On 10/04/2022 23:59, David Brooks adjusted his post to read:-
>>>>
>>>> I've just run another check using EasyFind and there are STILL items
>>>> from Etrecheck left active on my machine.
>>>
>>> *I have now deleted them*.
>>>
>>> Here they are in my Waste Bin! https://ibb.co/7kr7mNK
>>>
>>> Something odd about this!
>>
>> What apps do not leave such things behind?
>
> By that comment you appear to think that they are legitimate!
>
> They MUST be there for a reason.
>
> WHAT reason?

I gave some: if and when you reinstall an app you might want the same
preferences, for example. In other cases it is a file that allows you to keep
your license. There are others which are placed in specific folders so the OS
knows how to do a specific thing, and those should be removed -- but to leave
them does no real harm. They tend to be tiny and harmless. If there are
drivers and the like left behind, though, that can be an issue.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

on 4/11/2022, Wolffan supposed :
> On 11 Apr 2022, FromTheRafters wrote
> (in article <t314a8$c1c$1@dont-email.me>):
>
>> After serious thinking David Brooks wrote :
>>> On 10/04/2022 23:59, David Brooks adjusted his post to read:-
>>>>
>>>> I've just run another check using EasyFind and there are STILL items from
>>>> Etrecheck left active on my machine.
>>>
>>> *I have now deleted them*.
>>>
>>> Here they are in my Waste Bin! https://ibb.co/7kr7mNK
>>>
>>> Something odd about this!
>>
>> Maybe that's the point. They gave you the opportunity to decide for
>> yourself whether or not you wanted to keep them.
>
> I haven’t clicked the vile one’s link, but I suppose that the items are
> things like the ClamX folders and contents thereof in ~/Library/Application
> Support and Users/Library/Application Support. These would include settings
> files, plists, and the like. On this system, the ClamXAV folder in
> ~/Library/Application Support takes up a whopping 3.4 MB and was last
> accessed, prior to today, in December 2020. The
> uk.co.canimaansoftware.clamxav folder, in Users/Library/Application Support,
> uses 4kB for a single 239 byte plist; 4kB is the minimum size of a single
> file on a 1 TB APFS-formatted system. I can be sure that there are no hidden
> invisible files in there, not even a .DS_Store file as I’ve never opened
> that folder in the Finder... and going into the Terminal and listing files
> also shows just the plist. That file has not been accessed since March 2016.
>
> I can afford to leave 3.4 MB or so of old files; it’s a 1 TB volume, with
> 301 GB of available space.
>
> The files in the Application Support folder are there so that if I ever
> reinstall Clam, I don’t have to recreate all my settings, some/most of them
> are already set.If I did want to do a complete cold install, deleting the two
> folders in Application Support would be trivial, and would allow a clean
> install.
>
> There should be one more file; that shows that the free trial has been
> complete. It is invisible, and I won’t be telling ol’ yellowstain its
> name or location, so that he can try to cheat and get a second free trial.
>
> The Terminal knows all, sees all... if you know what you’re doing, which
> leaves the idiot out, he hasn’t got a clue.
>
> It should be noted that my ~/Library/Application Support folder has files and
> folders dating back to 2005, some of which belong to applications that I
> haven’t used in years. (theUsers/Library/Application Support folder only
> has stuff dating to 2013; an Adobe folder, currently empty, as I nuked all
> things Adobe on this machine with extreme prejudice.) I could clean it (them)
> out, but why bother? It’s a 1 TB volume, and the files/folders add up to a
> few tens of megabytes. I years past, when I had smaller drives, I cleaned up
> the various files left behind after deleting apps, but I haven’t bothered
> in a long time. They don’t do anything (checking to see if they do is
> trivial...) and they don’t take up significant space.
> He’s being an idiot. As usual.

Thanks for the detailed answer. Full disclosure, I didn't look either.
I don't think an uninstaller or cleaner should claim to completely
uninstall all of something unless it actually does that, but that's
marketing for you. Who would use it if it claimed to only remove almost
all of what would otherwise be remnants?

On 11/04/2022 16:14, Snit wrote:
> On Apr 11, 2022 at 2:14:53 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <ikS4K.551384$sb1.275030@fx11.ams1>:
>
>> On 11/04/2022 00:54, Snit wrote:
>>> On Apr 10, 2022 at 4:07:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <UqJ4K.551383$sb1.72491@fx11.ams1>:
>>>
>>>> On 10/04/2022 23:59, David Brooks adjusted his post to read:-
>>>>>
>>>>> I've just run another check using EasyFind and there are STILL items
>>>>> from Etrecheck left active on my machine.
>>>>
>>>> *I have now deleted them*.
>>>>
>>>> Here they are in my Waste Bin! https://ibb.co/7kr7mNK
>>>>
>>>> Something odd about this!
>>>
>>> What apps do not leave such things behind?
>>
>> By that comment you appear to think that they are legitimate!
>>
>> They MUST be there for a reason.
>>
>> WHAT reason?
>
> I gave some: if and when you reinstall an app you might want the same
> preferences, for example. In other cases it is a file that allows you to keep
> your license. There are others which are placed in specific folders so the OS
> knows how to do a specific thing, and those should be removed -- but to leave
> them does no real harm. They tend to be tiny and harmless. If there are
> drivers and the like left behind, though, that can be an issue.

You will no doubt have the same files hidden away on YOUR computer as
you have also downloaded EtreCheck.

What if they actually ARE nefarious?

Do you care enough to contact the developer to ask why they are still on
your computer?

On 2022-04-11, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 11, 2022 at 5:53:02 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
><t318bd$414$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>
>> On 2022-04-11, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 11/04/2022 00:54, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Apr 10, 2022 at 4:07:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>> <UqJ4K.551383$sb1.72491@fx11.ams1>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/04/2022 23:59, David Brooks adjusted his post to read:-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've just run another check using EasyFind and there are STILL items
>>>>>> from Etrecheck left active on my machine.
>>>>>
>>>>> *I have now deleted them*.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here they are in my Waste Bin! https://ibb.co/7kr7mNK
>>>>>
>>>>> Something odd about this!
>>>>
>>>> What apps do not leave such things behind?
>>>
>>> By that comment you appear to think that they are legitimate!
>>>
>>> They MUST be there for a reason.
>>>
>>> WHAT reason?
>>
>> Your usual stance is that they are illegitimate. This has happened
>> throughout a large chunk of your computing life, how many times has it
>> *actually* been a problem?
>
> More of your drama.

If it's *my* drama why has DB been banned from venues with people saying
much the same as usenet readers have about him?

On 11/04/2022 13:53, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On 2022-04-11, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 11/04/2022 00:54, Snit wrote:
>>> On Apr 10, 2022 at 4:07:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <UqJ4K.551383$sb1.72491@fx11.ams1>:
>>>
>>>> On 10/04/2022 23:59, David Brooks adjusted his post to read:-
>>>>>
>>>>> I've just run another check using EasyFind and there are STILL items
>>>>> from Etrecheck left active on my machine.
>>>>
>>>> *I have now deleted them*.
>>>>
>>>> Here they are in my Waste Bin! https://ibb.co/7kr7mNK
>>>>
>>>> Something odd about this!
>>>
>>> What apps do not leave such things behind?
>>
>> By that comment you appear to think that they are legitimate!
>>
>> They MUST be there for a reason.
>>
>> WHAT reason?
>
> Your usual stance is that they are illegitimate. This has happened
> throughout a large chunk of your computing life, how many times has it
> *actually* been a problem?

I do not KNOW why they are still on my computer, nor do I know whether
or not they are nefarious.

I would never have known they were present unless I'd gone looking for them.

Successful malware can remain hidden for years.

How would you feel about contacting JD and discussing this whole
scenario with him?

On Apr 11, 2022 at 8:29:53 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<SPX4K.392678$Lc1.310170@fx12.ams1>:

> On 11/04/2022 16:14, Snit wrote:
>> On Apr 11, 2022 at 2:14:53 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <ikS4K.551384$sb1.275030@fx11.ams1>:
>>
>>> On 11/04/2022 00:54, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Apr 10, 2022 at 4:07:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>> <UqJ4K.551383$sb1.72491@fx11.ams1>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/04/2022 23:59, David Brooks adjusted his post to read:-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've just run another check using EasyFind and there are STILL items
>>>>>> from Etrecheck left active on my machine.
>>>>>
>>>>> *I have now deleted them*.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here they are in my Waste Bin! https://ibb.co/7kr7mNK
>>>>>
>>>>> Something odd about this!
>>>>
>>>> What apps do not leave such things behind?
>>>
>>> By that comment you appear to think that they are legitimate!
>>>
>>> They MUST be there for a reason.
>>>
>>> WHAT reason?
>>
>> I gave some: if and when you reinstall an app you might want the same
>> preferences, for example. In other cases it is a file that allows you to keep
>> your license. There are others which are placed in specific folders so the OS
>> knows how to do a specific thing, and those should be removed -- but to leave
>> them does no real harm. They tend to be tiny and harmless. If there are
>> drivers and the like left behind, though, that can be an issue.
>
> You will no doubt have the same files hidden away on YOUR computer as
> you have also downloaded EtreCheck.
>
> What if they actually ARE nefarious?

Is there any app that does not leave such files behind? And are they launched
or used in any way?

>
> Do you care enough to contact the developer to ask why they are still on
> your computer?

Not without reason.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 11 Apr 2022, David Brooks wrote
(in article <m7Y4K.57395$3b1.24213@fx14.ams1>):

> On 11/04/2022 13:53, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > On 2022-04-11, David Brooks<BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> > > On 11/04/2022 00:54, Snit wrote:
> > > > On Apr 10, 2022 at 4:07:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> > > > <UqJ4K.551383$sb1.72491@fx11.ams1>:
> > > >
> > > > > On 10/04/2022 23:59, David Brooks adjusted his post to read:-
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've just run another check using EasyFind and there are STILL items
> > > > > > from Etrecheck left active on my machine.
> > > > >
> > > > > *I have now deleted them*.
> > > > >
> > > > > Here they are in my Waste Bin! https://ibb.co/7kr7mNK
> > > > >
> > > > > Something odd about this!
> > > >
> > > > What apps do not leave such things behind?
> > >
> > > By that comment you appear to think that they are legitimate!
> > >
> > > They MUST be there for a reason.
> > >
> > > WHAT reason?
> >
> > Your usual stance is that they are illegitimate. This has happened
> > throughout a large chunk of your computing life, how many times has it
> > *actually* been a problem?
>
> I do not KNOW why they are still on my computer, nor do I know whether
> or not they are nefarious.
>
> I would never have known they were present unless I'd gone looking for them.
>
> Successful malware can remain hidden for years.
>
> How would you feel about contacting JD and discussing this whole
> scenario with him?

Ah. They’re EtreCheck files, not ClamX files. Hmm... I have an EtreCheck
folder in ~/Library/Application Support. 1.8 MB. Contains reports. And
there’s com.etresoft.EtreCheck4, inside Users/[username]/Webkit. 79 bytes.
Site info. And com.etresoft.EtreCheckMAS, In Containers. 66kB. Plists. And
EtreCheckPro, in Application Support. 16 kB. Packages.

Again, they’re support files, so that if I uninstalled I’d still have my
settings if I later on reinstalled. Those who know what they’re doing can
look inside plists and packages and see what’s what. And the reports can be
read by any text editor or word processor, they’re bloody _RTFs_.

Anyone who wants to see what those files are, and is even half-way competent
(so... not you, vile one) can bloody well look themselves. And if they want,
can simply delete the entire folders, All of them.

You’re an idiot.

On 11 Apr 2022, FromTheRafters wrote
(in article <t31gt1$n8n$1@dont-email.me>):

> on 4/11/2022, Wolffan supposed :
> > On 11 Apr 2022, FromTheRafters wrote
> > (in article <t314a8$c1c$1@dont-email.me>):
> >
> > > After serious thinking David Brooks wrote :
> > > > On 10/04/2022 23:59, David Brooks adjusted his post to read:-
> > > > >
> > > > > I've just run another check using EasyFind and there are STILL items from
> > > > > Etrecheck left active on my machine.
> > > >
> > > > *I have now deleted them*.
> > > >
> > > > Here they are in my Waste Bin! https://ibb.co/7kr7mNK
> > > >
> > > > Something odd about this!
> > >
> > > Maybe that's the point. They gave you the opportunity to decide for
> > > yourself whether or not you wanted to keep them.
> >
> > I haven’t clicked the vile one’s link, but I suppose that the items are
> > things like the ClamX folders and contents thereof in ~/Library/Application
> > Support and Users/Library/Application Support. These would include settings
> > files, plists, and the like. On this system, the ClamXAV folder in
> > > /Library/Application Support takes up a whopping 3.4 MB and was last
> > accessed, prior to today, in December 2020. The
> > uk.co.canimaansoftware.clamxav folder, in Users/Library/Application Support,
> > uses 4kB for a single 239 byte plist; 4kB is the minimum size of a single
> > file on a 1 TB APFS-formatted system. I can be sure that there are no hidden
> > invisible files in there, not even a .DS_Store file as I’ve never opened
> > that folder in the Finder... and going into the Terminal and listing files
> > also shows just the plist. That file has not been accessed since March 2016.
> >
> > I can afford to leave 3.4 MB or so of old files; it’s a 1 TB volume, with
> > 301 GB of available space.
> >
> > The files in the Application Support folder are there so that if I ever
> > reinstall Clam, I don’t have to recreate all my settings, some/most of
> > them
> > are already set.If I did want to do a complete cold install, deleting the
> > two
> > folders in Application Support would be trivial, and would allow a clean
> > install.
> >
> > There should be one more file; that shows that the free trial has been
> > complete. It is invisible, and I won’t be telling ol’ yellowstain its
> > name or location, so that he can try to cheat and get a second free trial.
> >
> > The Terminal knows all, sees all... if you know what you’re doing, which
> > leaves the idiot out, he hasn’t got a clue.
> >
> > It should be noted that my ~/Library/Application Support folder has files
> > and
> > folders dating back to 2005, some of which belong to applications that I
> > haven’t used in years. (theUsers/Library/Application Support folder only
> > has stuff dating to 2013; an Adobe folder, currently empty, as I nuked all
> > things Adobe on this machine with extreme prejudice.) I could clean it
> > (them)
> > out, but why bother? It’s a 1 TB volume, and the files/folders add up to a
> > few tens of megabytes. I years past, when I had smaller drives, I cleaned up
> > the various files left behind after deleting apps, but I haven’t bothered
> > in a long time. They don’t do anything (checking to see if they do is
> > trivial...) and they don’t take up significant space.
> > He’s being an idiot. As usual.
>
> Thanks for the detailed answer. Full disclosure, I didn't look either.
> I don't think an uninstaller or cleaner should claim to completely
> uninstall all of something unless it actually does that, but that's
> marketing for you. Who would use it if it claimed to only remove almost
> all of what would otherwise be remnants?

Apparently he’s yapping about EtreCheck. He’s being even more of an idiot
than normal.

On 2022-04-11, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 11/04/2022 13:53, Steve Carroll wrote:
>> On 2022-04-11, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 11/04/2022 00:54, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Apr 10, 2022 at 4:07:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>> <UqJ4K.551383$sb1.72491@fx11.ams1>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/04/2022 23:59, David Brooks adjusted his post to read:-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've just run another check using EasyFind and there are STILL items
>>>>>> from Etrecheck left active on my machine.
>>>>>
>>>>> *I have now deleted them*.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here they are in my Waste Bin! https://ibb.co/7kr7mNK
>>>>>
>>>>> Something odd about this!
>>>>
>>>> What apps do not leave such things behind?
>>>
>>> By that comment you appear to think that they are legitimate!
>>>
>>> They MUST be there for a reason.
>>>
>>> WHAT reason?
>>
>> Your usual stance is that they are illegitimate. This has happened
>> throughout a large chunk of your computing life, how many times has it
>> *actually* been a problem?
>
> I do not KNOW why they are still on my computer, nor do I know whether
> or not they are nefarious.

Yet, that hasn't stopped you from trying to slime people, to the point
where you get banned/shunned.

> How would you feel about contacting JD and discussing this whole
> scenario with him?

I've no need, I know how the files get there and what they generally do.
I've stayed out of it because you ignored me the last time I tried to
help you. There's no upside for me as you don't listen anyway: that, and
I get your 'friend', Glasser, crawling all over the conversation with
his childish bullsh*t. I'm still waiting for the hypocrite to help you
with what you asked for in the last thread he turned into a pile of
sh*t. I will only ever help you when I feel like it and I'll do so in
the manner I believe you deserve (designed to make YOU do some of the
work). I'll say it AGAIN: IMO, you and your 'friend' are lucky anyone
ever responds to you on any topic.

In article <0001HW.28048C2500AFB1F0700002FC138F@news.supernews.com>,
Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:

> He¹s being even more of an idiot
> than normal.

how is that even possible?

On 11 Apr 2022, nospam wrote
(in article<110420221324193160%nospam@nospam.invalid>):

> In article<0001HW.28048C2500AFB1F0700002FC138F@news.supernews.com>,
> Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
>
> > He¹s being even more of an idiot
> > than normal.
>
> how is that even possible?

He tries.

He’s a very trying man.

On 11/04/2022 12:43, FromTheRafters wrote:
> After serious thinking David Brooks wrote :
>> On 10/04/2022 23:59, David Brooks adjusted his post to read:-
>>>
>>> I've just run another check using EasyFind and there are STILL items
>>> from Etrecheck left active on my machine.
>>
>> *I have now deleted them*.
>>
>> Here they are in my Waste Bin!  https://ibb.co/7kr7mNK
>>
>> Something odd about this!
>
> Maybe that's the point. They gave you the opportunity to decide for
> yourself whether or not you wanted to keep them.

You don't often miss the point.

You did this time. :-(

On Apr 11, 2022 at 8:37:42 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<t31i06$ph4$5@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

> On 2022-04-11, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 11, 2022 at 5:53:02 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>> <t318bd$414$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>
>>> On 2022-04-11, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 11/04/2022 00:54, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 10, 2022 at 4:07:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>> <UqJ4K.551383$sb1.72491@fx11.ams1>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/04/2022 23:59, David Brooks adjusted his post to read:-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've just run another check using EasyFind and there are STILL items
>>>>>>> from Etrecheck left active on my machine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *I have now deleted them*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here they are in my Waste Bin! https://ibb.co/7kr7mNK
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Something odd about this!
>>>>>
>>>>> What apps do not leave such things behind?
>>>>
>>>> By that comment you appear to think that they are legitimate!
>>>>
>>>> They MUST be there for a reason.
>>>>
>>>> WHAT reason?
>>>
>>> Your usual stance is that they are illegitimate. This has happened
>>> throughout a large chunk of your computing life, how many times has it
>>> *actually* been a problem?
>>
>> More of your drama.
>
> If it's *my* drama

It is. Those are your words. You are responsible for your own behavior.

> why has DB been banned from venues with people saying
> much the same as usenet readers have about him?

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Apr 11, 2022 at 9:59:21 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<t31mp9$49n$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

> On 2022-04-11, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 11/04/2022 13:53, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>> On 2022-04-11, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 11/04/2022 00:54, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 10, 2022 at 4:07:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>> <UqJ4K.551383$sb1.72491@fx11.ams1>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/04/2022 23:59, David Brooks adjusted his post to read:-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've just run another check using EasyFind and there are STILL items
>>>>>>> from Etrecheck left active on my machine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *I have now deleted them*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here they are in my Waste Bin! https://ibb.co/7kr7mNK
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Something odd about this!
>>>>>
>>>>> What apps do not leave such things behind?
>>>>
>>>> By that comment you appear to think that they are legitimate!
>>>>
>>>> They MUST be there for a reason.
>>>>
>>>> WHAT reason?
>>>
>>> Your usual stance is that they are illegitimate. This has happened
>>> throughout a large chunk of your computing life, how many times has it
>>> *actually* been a problem?
>>
>> I do not KNOW why they are still on my computer, nor do I know whether
>> or not they are nefarious.
>
> Yet, that hasn't stopped you from trying to slime people, to the point
> where you get banned/shunned.

How many services have you been banned from? How many have you lost accounts
with?

>> How would you feel about contacting JD and discussing this whole
>> scenario with him?
>
> I've no need, I know how the files get there and what they generally do.
> I've stayed out of it because you ignored me the last time I tried to
> help you.

If you did it was buried in your drama and trolling.

> There's no upside for me as you don't listen anyway: that, and
> I get your 'friend', Glasser, crawling all over the conversation with
> his childish bullsh*t.

Notice you cry when your drama is called out.

> I'm still waiting for the hypocrite to help you
> with what you asked for in the last thread he turned into a pile of
> sh*t. I will only ever help you when I feel like it and I'll do so in
> the manner I believe you deserve (designed to make YOU do some of the
> work). I'll say it AGAIN: IMO, you and your 'friend' are lucky anyone
> ever responds to you on any topic.

More of your drama. It is what you do.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 2022-04-11, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 11, 2022 at 8:29:53 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
><SPX4K.392678$Lc1.310170@fx12.ams1>:
>
>> On 11/04/2022 16:14, Snit wrote:
>>> On Apr 11, 2022 at 2:14:53 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <ikS4K.551384$sb1.275030@fx11.ams1>:
>>>
>>>> On 11/04/2022 00:54, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 10, 2022 at 4:07:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>> <UqJ4K.551383$sb1.72491@fx11.ams1>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/04/2022 23:59, David Brooks adjusted his post to read:-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've just run another check using EasyFind and there are STILL items
>>>>>>> from Etrecheck left active on my machine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *I have now deleted them*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here they are in my Waste Bin! https://ibb.co/7kr7mNK
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Something odd about this!
>>>>>
>>>>> What apps do not leave such things behind?
>>>>
>>>> By that comment you appear to think that they are legitimate!
>>>>
>>>> They MUST be there for a reason.
>>>>
>>>> WHAT reason?
>>>
>>> I gave some: if and when you reinstall an app you might want the same
>>> preferences, for example. In other cases it is a file that allows you to keep
>>> your license. There are others which are placed in specific folders so the OS
>>> knows how to do a specific thing, and those should be removed -- but to leave
>>> them does no real harm. They tend to be tiny and harmless. If there are
>>> drivers and the like left behind, though, that can be an issue.
>>
>> You will no doubt have the same files hidden away on YOUR computer as
>> you have also downloaded EtreCheck.
>>
>> What if they actually ARE nefarious?
>
> Is there any app that does not leave such files behind?

"nefarious" files? ;)

> And are they launched or used in any way?

LOL! This is exactly what you just crawled up my ass with over his
"active on my machine". Now, you're asking him 'how are they active?'.

What you said to me, "Happy to help you understand", you don't seem to
"understand", Mr. Hypocrite.
>> Do you care enough to contact the developer to ask why they are still on
>> your computer?
>
> Not without reason.

He's your 'friend' and he can no longer talk to the dev. That's not
reason enough?

On 11/04/2022 16:51, Snit wrote:
> On Apr 11, 2022 at 8:29:53 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <SPX4K.392678$Lc1.310170@fx12.ams1>:
>
>> On 11/04/2022 16:14, Snit wrote:
>>> On Apr 11, 2022 at 2:14:53 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <ikS4K.551384$sb1.275030@fx11.ams1>:
>>>
>>>> On 11/04/2022 00:54, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 10, 2022 at 4:07:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>> <UqJ4K.551383$sb1.72491@fx11.ams1>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/04/2022 23:59, David Brooks adjusted his post to read:-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've just run another check using EasyFind and there are STILL items
>>>>>>> from Etrecheck left active on my machine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *I have now deleted them*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here they are in my Waste Bin! https://ibb.co/7kr7mNK
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Something odd about this!
>>>>>
>>>>> What apps do not leave such things behind?
>>>>
>>>> By that comment you appear to think that they are legitimate!
>>>>
>>>> They MUST be there for a reason.
>>>>
>>>> WHAT reason?
>>>
>>> I gave some: if and when you reinstall an app you might want the same
>>> preferences, for example. In other cases it is a file that allows you to keep
>>> your license. There are others which are placed in specific folders so the OS
>>> knows how to do a specific thing, and those should be removed -- but to leave
>>> them does no real harm. They tend to be tiny and harmless. If there are
>>> drivers and the like left behind, though, that can be an issue.
>>
>> You will no doubt have the same files hidden away on YOUR computer as
>> you have also downloaded EtreCheck.
>>
>> What if they actually ARE nefarious?
>
> Is there any app that does not leave such files behind? And are they launched
> or used in any way?

*NO* application should leave malware hidden on a computer.

>> Do you care enough to contact the developer to ask why they are still on
>> your computer?
>
> Not without reason.

The reason is simply to clarify /why/ such files are left behind after
the product has supposedly been removed from a computer.

On 2022-04-11, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 11, 2022 at 9:59:21 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
><t31mp9$49n$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>
>> On 2022-04-11, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 11/04/2022 13:53, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>> On 2022-04-11, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On 11/04/2022 00:54, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On Apr 10, 2022 at 4:07:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>> <UqJ4K.551383$sb1.72491@fx11.ams1>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/04/2022 23:59, David Brooks adjusted his post to read:-
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've just run another check using EasyFind and there are STILL items
>>>>>>>> from Etrecheck left active on my machine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *I have now deleted them*.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here they are in my Waste Bin! https://ibb.co/7kr7mNK
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Something odd about this!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What apps do not leave such things behind?
>>>>>
>>>>> By that comment you appear to think that they are legitimate!
>>>>>
>>>>> They MUST be there for a reason.
>>>>>
>>>>> WHAT reason?
>>>>
>>>> Your usual stance is that they are illegitimate. This has happened
>>>> throughout a large chunk of your computing life, how many times has it
>>>> *actually* been a problem?
>>>
>>> I do not KNOW why they are still on my computer, nor do I know whether
>>> or not they are nefarious.
>>
>> Yet, that hasn't stopped you from trying to slime people, to the point
>> where you get banned/shunned.
>
> How many services have you been banned from? How many have you lost accounts
> with?

No services, one account when you ratted on me because you were seething
with rage (I opened another account within minutes). I don't need to ask
the same of you, I'm familiar with your history of losing usenet providers.

>>> How would you feel about contacting JD and discussing this whole
>>> scenario with him?
>>
>> I've no need, I know how the files get there and what they generally do.
>> I've stayed out of it because you ignored me the last time I tried to
>> help you.
>
> If you did it was buried in your drama and trolling.

? Uh.. sober up?

>> There's no upside for me as you don't listen anyway: that, and
>> I get your 'friend', Glasser, crawling all over the conversation with
>> his childish bullsh*t.
>
> Notice you cry when your drama is called out.

I don't notice.

>> I'm still waiting for the hypocrite to help you
>> with what you asked for in the last thread he turned into a pile of
>> sh*t. I will only ever help you when I feel like it and I'll do so in
>> the manner I believe you deserve (designed to make YOU do some of the
>> work). I'll say it AGAIN: IMO, you and your 'friend' are lucky anyone
>> ever responds to you on any topic.
>
> More of your drama. It is what you do.

I stated my opinion, and I doubt I'm alone on that.

On Apr 11, 2022 at 11:04:30 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<t31qje$3cc$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

> On 2022-04-11, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 11, 2022 at 8:29:53 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <SPX4K.392678$Lc1.310170@fx12.ams1>:
>>
>>> On 11/04/2022 16:14, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Apr 11, 2022 at 2:14:53 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>> <ikS4K.551384$sb1.275030@fx11.ams1>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/04/2022 00:54, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On Apr 10, 2022 at 4:07:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>> <UqJ4K.551383$sb1.72491@fx11.ams1>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/04/2022 23:59, David Brooks adjusted his post to read:-
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've just run another check using EasyFind and there are STILL items
>>>>>>>> from Etrecheck left active on my machine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *I have now deleted them*.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here they are in my Waste Bin! https://ibb.co/7kr7mNK
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Something odd about this!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What apps do not leave such things behind?
>>>>>
>>>>> By that comment you appear to think that they are legitimate!
>>>>>
>>>>> They MUST be there for a reason.
>>>>>
>>>>> WHAT reason?
>>>>
>>>> I gave some: if and when you reinstall an app you might want the same
>>>> preferences, for example. In other cases it is a file that allows you to keep
>>>> your license. There are others which are placed in specific folders so the OS
>>>> knows how to do a specific thing, and those should be removed -- but to leave
>>>> them does no real harm. They tend to be tiny and harmless. If there are
>>>> drivers and the like left behind, though, that can be an issue.
>>>
>>> You will no doubt have the same files hidden away on YOUR computer as
>>> you have also downloaded EtreCheck.
>>>
>>> What if they actually ARE nefarious?
>>
>> Is there any app that does not leave such files behind?
>
> "nefarious" files? ;)

Another concept that confuses you. OK.

>> And are they launched or used in any way?
>
> LOL! This is exactly what you just crawled up my ass with over his
> "active on my machine". Now, you're asking him 'how are they active?'.

More of your drama and another sign of how lost you are.

> What you said to me, "Happy to help you understand", you don't seem to
> "understand", Mr. Hypocrite.

More of your drama and games. Not biting.

>>> Do you care enough to contact the developer to ask why they are still on
>>> your computer?
>>
>> Not without reason.
>
> He's your 'friend' and he can no longer talk to the dev. That's not
> reason enough?

If you want to talk to him you can.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.