On Apr 11, 2022 at 11:09:39 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<t31qt3$3cc$4@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

> On 2022-04-11, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 11, 2022 at 9:59:21 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>> <t31mp9$49n$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>
>>> On 2022-04-11, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 11/04/2022 13:53, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-04-11, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/04/2022 00:54, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>> On Apr 10, 2022 at 4:07:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>> <UqJ4K.551383$sb1.72491@fx11.ams1>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/04/2022 23:59, David Brooks adjusted his post to read:-
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've just run another check using EasyFind and there are STILL items
>>>>>>>>> from Etrecheck left active on my machine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *I have now deleted them*.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here they are in my Waste Bin! https://ibb.co/7kr7mNK
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Something odd about this!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What apps do not leave such things behind?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By that comment you appear to think that they are legitimate!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They MUST be there for a reason.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WHAT reason?
>>>>>
>>>>> Your usual stance is that they are illegitimate. This has happened
>>>>> throughout a large chunk of your computing life, how many times has it
>>>>> *actually* been a problem?
>>>>
>>>> I do not KNOW why they are still on my computer, nor do I know whether
>>>> or not they are nefarious.
>>>
>>> Yet, that hasn't stopped you from trying to slime people, to the point
>>> where you get banned/shunned.
>>
>> How many services have you been banned from? How many have you lost accounts
>> with?
>
> No services, one account when you ratted on me because you were seething
> with rage (I opened another account within minutes). I don't need to ask
> the same of you, I'm familiar with your history of losing usenet providers.

Do you deny you are the author of this quote?

I've been booted off by past providers before because people
complain about me and all my bullshit. I don't want to lose my ISP
*again* but I still need my army of sock puppets so I continually
search usenet for whatever servers I haven't yet been booted
from.

And do you deny you were booted from X10? How about Comcast? How about
FreeHostingEU? AwardSpace (atwebpages.com)? Has Imgur taken down your images?
How about your GigaNews account -- after you harassed me with it you had no
issues with them? How about your fretwizzen account? You have not used that
one in some time.

>
>>>> How would you feel about contacting JD and discussing this whole
>>>> scenario with him?
>>>
>>> I've no need, I know how the files get there and what they generally do.
>>> I've stayed out of it because you ignored me the last time I tried to
>>> help you.
>>
>> If you did it was buried in your drama and trolling.
>
> ? Uh.. sober up?

More of your focus on substance abuse.

>
>>> There's no upside for me as you don't listen anyway: that, and
>>> I get your 'friend', Glasser, crawling all over the conversation with
>>> his childish bullsh*t.
>>
>> Notice you cry when your drama is called out.
>
> I don't notice.

You lack self awareness. OK.

>
>>> I'm still waiting for the hypocrite to help you
>>> with what you asked for in the last thread he turned into a pile of
>>> sh*t. I will only ever help you when I feel like it and I'll do so in
>>> the manner I believe you deserve (designed to make YOU do some of the
>>> work). I'll say it AGAIN: IMO, you and your 'friend' are lucky anyone
>>> ever responds to you on any topic.
>>
>> More of your drama. It is what you do.
>
> I stated my opinion, and I doubt I'm alone on that.

You are pushing drama and games. It is what you do. Maybe you really cannot
help it.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Apr 11, 2022 at 11:06:25 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<F6_4K.392826$Lc1.290695@fx12.ams1>:

> On 11/04/2022 16:51, Snit wrote:
>> On Apr 11, 2022 at 8:29:53 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <SPX4K.392678$Lc1.310170@fx12.ams1>:
>>
>>> On 11/04/2022 16:14, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Apr 11, 2022 at 2:14:53 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>> <ikS4K.551384$sb1.275030@fx11.ams1>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/04/2022 00:54, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On Apr 10, 2022 at 4:07:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>> <UqJ4K.551383$sb1.72491@fx11.ams1>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/04/2022 23:59, David Brooks adjusted his post to read:-
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've just run another check using EasyFind and there are STILL items
>>>>>>>> from Etrecheck left active on my machine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *I have now deleted them*.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here they are in my Waste Bin! https://ibb.co/7kr7mNK
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Something odd about this!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What apps do not leave such things behind?
>>>>>
>>>>> By that comment you appear to think that they are legitimate!
>>>>>
>>>>> They MUST be there for a reason.
>>>>>
>>>>> WHAT reason?
>>>>
>>>> I gave some: if and when you reinstall an app you might want the same
>>>> preferences, for example. In other cases it is a file that allows you to keep
>>>> your license. There are others which are placed in specific folders so the OS
>>>> knows how to do a specific thing, and those should be removed -- but to leave
>>>> them does no real harm. They tend to be tiny and harmless. If there are
>>>> drivers and the like left behind, though, that can be an issue.
>>>
>>> You will no doubt have the same files hidden away on YOUR computer as
>>> you have also downloaded EtreCheck.
>>>
>>> What if they actually ARE nefarious?
>>
>> Is there any app that does not leave such files behind? And are they launched
>> or used in any way?
>
> *NO* application should leave malware hidden on a computer.

Agreed... but we were talking files in general. Are there any apps that do not
leave any behind? There may be... I have not done any deep checks.

>
>>> Do you care enough to contact the developer to ask why they are still on
>>> your computer?
>>
>> Not without reason.
>
> The reason is simply to clarify /why/ such files are left behind after
> the product has supposedly been removed from a computer.

It is the way macOS works. The standard uninstall method is to just drag the
file from the Applications folder. Some small files that are saved elsewhere
are not removed.

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Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 2022-04-11, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

(snip)

>>>> You will no doubt have the same files hidden away on YOUR computer as
>>>> you have also downloaded EtreCheck.
>>>>
>>>> What if they actually ARE nefarious?
>>>
>>> Is there any app that does not leave such files behind?
>>
>> "nefarious" files? ;)
>
> Another concept that confuses you. OK.

I was joking... but are you agreeing with his veiled suggestion they
"ARE nefarious"?

>>>> Do you care enough to contact the developer to ask why they are still on
>>>> your computer?
>>>
>>> Not without reason.
>>
>> He's your 'friend' and he can no longer talk to the dev. That's not
>> reason enough?
>
> If you want to talk to him you can.

Given that DB's treated me like an enemy there's no reason I'd want to.
The loon has stuck his neck out, trashing his rep even further on your
behalf, and you don't seem willing to help him on things that matter to
him. What kind of 'friend' are you? (this reminds me of when Marek gave
you that computer and you immediately went back to treating him like
sh*t once you had it in your hands).

On Apr 11, 2022 at 11:22:22 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<t31rku$3cc$6@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

> On 2022-04-11, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> (snip)
>
>>>>> You will no doubt have the same files hidden away on YOUR computer as
>>>>> you have also downloaded EtreCheck.
>>>>>
>>>>> What if they actually ARE nefarious?
>>>>
>>>> Is there any app that does not leave such files behind?
>>>
>>> "nefarious" files? ;)
>>
>> Another concept that confuses you. OK.
>
> I was joking... but are you agreeing with his veiled suggestion they
> "ARE nefarious"?

He *asked* if they might be. Your effort to create drama is noted.

>>>>> Do you care enough to contact the developer to ask why they are still on
>>>>> your computer?
>>>>
>>>> Not without reason.
>>>
>>> He's your 'friend' and he can no longer talk to the dev. That's not
>>> reason enough?
>>
>> If you want to talk to him you can.
>
> Given that DB's treated me like an enemy there's no reason I'd want to.
> The loon

You engage in such name calling and then wonder why you are treated like an
"enemy". You lack self awareness.

> has stuck his neck out, trashing his rep even further on your
> behalf, and you don't seem willing to help him on things that matter to
> him. What kind of 'friend' are you? (this reminds me of when Marek gave
> you that computer and you immediately went back to treating him like
> sh*t once you had it in your hands).

More of your drama.

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Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

nospam explained on 4/11/2022 :
> In article <0001HW.28048C2500AFB1F0700002FC138F@news.supernews.com>,
> Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
>
>> He¹s being even more of an idiot
>> than normal.
>
> how is that even possible?

*Genius* has its limits.

David Brooks wrote :
> On 11/04/2022 12:43, FromTheRafters wrote:
>> After serious thinking David Brooks wrote :
>>> On 10/04/2022 23:59, David Brooks adjusted his post to read:-
>>>>
>>>> I've just run another check using EasyFind and there are STILL items from
>>>> Etrecheck left active on my machine.
>>>
>>> *I have now deleted them*.
>>>
>>> Here they are in my Waste Bin!  https://ibb.co/7kr7mNK
>>>
>>> Something odd about this!
>>
>> Maybe that's the point. They gave you the opportunity to decide for
>> yourself whether or not you wanted to keep them.
>
> You don't often miss the point.
>
> You did this time. :-(

There was a point?

You should warn me when you do something different.

On Apr 11, 2022 at 11:28:57 AM MST, "FromTheRafters" wrote
<t31s25$nq6$1@dont-email.me>:

> David Brooks wrote :
>> On 11/04/2022 12:43, FromTheRafters wrote:
>>> After serious thinking David Brooks wrote :
>>>> On 10/04/2022 23:59, David Brooks adjusted his post to read:-
>>>>>
>>>>> I've just run another check using EasyFind and there are STILL items from
>>>>> Etrecheck left active on my machine.
>>>>
>>>> *I have now deleted them*.
>>>>
>>>> Here they are in my Waste Bin! https://ibb.co/7kr7mNK
>>>>
>>>> Something odd about this!
>>>
>>> Maybe that's the point. They gave you the opportunity to decide for
>>> yourself whether or not you wanted to keep them.
>>
>> You don't often miss the point.
>>
>> You did this time. :-(
>
> There was a point?

There is at the end of pretty much every sentence. There are two in the frown
face you posted.

Maybe you should define "point". :)

>
> You should warn me when you do something different.

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Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 2022-04-11, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

(snip)

>>> How many services have you been banned from? How many have you lost accounts
>>> with?
>>
>> No services, one account when you ratted on me because you were seething
>> with rage (I opened another account within minutes). I don't need to ask
>> the same of you, I'm familiar with your history of losing usenet providers.
>
> Do you deny you are the author of this quote?
>
> I've been booted off by past providers before because people
> complain about me and all my bullshit. I don't want to lose my ISP
> *again* but I still need my army of sock puppets so I continually
> search usenet for whatever servers I haven't yet been booted
> from.

I don't deny that I wrote that as an example of what you would have
written, were you honest, which is, as we both know, the reason you
didn't include a link. People are not as stupid as you need them to be,
they just aren't. It's nearing two decades, what's so difficult about
this for you. Pride?

> And do you deny you were booted from X10?

Booted? No. Suspended, yes, as was everyone who didn't login to their
site for 30 days.

> How about Comcast?

I'm still using them.

> How about FreeHostingEU? AwardSpace

I have accounts with both.

> Has Imgur taken down your images?

I have no idea what they've taken down but it's a good bet your whining
was involved.

> How about your GigaNews account

What account? Aren't they a pay service? I've never used a pay service,
would never.

>>>>> How would you feel about contacting JD and discussing this whole
>>>>> scenario with him?
>>>>
>>>> I've no need, I know how the files get there and what they generally do.
>>>> I've stayed out of it because you ignored me the last time I tried to
>>>> help you.
>>>
>>> If you did it was buried in your drama and trolling.
>>
>> ? Uh.. sober up?
>
> More of your focus on substance abuse.

You clearly believe people will buy your ridiculous 'stories' so
something must drive that foolishness.

On 11 Apr 2022, David Brooks wrote
(in article <F6_4K.392826$Lc1.290695@fx12.ams1>):

> On 11/04/2022 16:51, Snit wrote:
> > On Apr 11, 2022 at 8:29:53 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> > <SPX4K.392678$Lc1.310170@fx12.ams1>:
> >
> > > On 11/04/2022 16:14, Snit wrote:
> > > > On Apr 11, 2022 at 2:14:53 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> > > > <ikS4K.551384$sb1.275030@fx11.ams1>:
> > > >
> > > > > On 11/04/2022 00:54, Snit wrote:
> > > > > > On Apr 10, 2022 at 4:07:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> > > > > > <UqJ4K.551383$sb1.72491@fx11.ams1>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 10/04/2022 23:59, David Brooks adjusted his post to read:-
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I've just run another check using EasyFind and there are STILL items
> > > > > > > > from Etrecheck left active on my machine.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *I have now deleted them*.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Here they are in my Waste Bin! https://ibb.co/7kr7mNK
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Something odd about this!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What apps do not leave such things behind?
> > > > >
> > > > > By that comment you appear to think that they are legitimate!
> > > > >
> > > > > They MUST be there for a reason.
> > > > >
> > > > > WHAT reason?
> > > >
> > > > I gave some: if and when you reinstall an app you might want the same
> > > > preferences, for example. In other cases it is a file that allows you to
> > > > keep
> > > > your license. There are others which are placed in specific folders so
> > > > the OS
> > > > knows how to do a specific thing, and those should be removed -- but to
> > > > leave
> > > > them does no real harm. They tend to be tiny and harmless. If there are
> > > > drivers and the like left behind, though, that can be an issue.
> > >
> > > You will no doubt have the same files hidden away on YOUR computer as
> > > you have also downloaded EtreCheck.
> > >
> > > What if they actually ARE nefarious?
> >
> > Is there any app that does not leave such files behind? And are they
> > launched
> > or used in any way?
>
> *NO* application should leave malware hidden on a computer.

You have yet to demonstrate that what EtreCheck left was malware. Indeed,
given that anyone with sense (therefore, not you) can see exactly what it is,
that statement of yours may well be actionable. Perhaps someone should bring
it to the attention of your newsfeed and to the dev in question. Hmm. Now who
might do that? Hmmm.
>
>
> > > Do you care enough to contact the developer to ask why they are still on
> > > your computer?
> >
> > Not without reason.
>
> The reason is simply to clarify /why/ such files are left behind after
> the product has supposedly been removed from a computer.

because it’s just a few, small, insignificant, harmless, files which might
assist if ever you reinstall. And which can trivially be deleted, and which
were not hidden.

You’re an idiot.

On 2022-04-11, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

(snip)

>>>> You will no doubt have the same files hidden away on YOUR computer as
>>>> you have also downloaded EtreCheck.
>>>>
>>>> What if they actually ARE nefarious?
>>>
>>> Is there any app that does not leave such files behind? And are they launched
>>> or used in any way?
>>
>> *NO* application should leave malware hidden on a computer.
>
> Agreed... but we were talking files in general.

YOU were doing that, Mr. Interpreter. Like I said, he's on a 'mission'.

You can start eating that crow now ;)

>>>> Do you care enough to contact the developer to ask why they are still on
>>>> your computer?
>>>
>>> Not without reason.
>>
>> The reason is simply to clarify /why/ such files are left behind after
>> the product has supposedly been removed from a computer.

Ask on the Apple support forum. Oh... wait...

On 2022-04-11, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 11, 2022 at 11:22:22 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
><t31rku$3cc$6@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>
>> On 2022-04-11, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> (snip)
>>
>>>>>> You will no doubt have the same files hidden away on YOUR computer as
>>>>>> you have also downloaded EtreCheck.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What if they actually ARE nefarious?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there any app that does not leave such files behind?
>>>>
>>>> "nefarious" files? ;)
>>>
>>> Another concept that confuses you. OK.
>>
>> I was joking... but are you agreeing with his veiled suggestion they
>> "ARE nefarious"?
>
> He *asked* if they might be. Your effort to create drama is noted.

Right... and it's all just my imagination <eyeroll>.

>>>>>> Do you care enough to contact the developer to ask why they are still on
>>>>>> your computer?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not without reason.
>>>>
>>>> He's your 'friend' and he can no longer talk to the dev. That's not
>>>> reason enough?
>>>
>>> If you want to talk to him you can.
>>
>> Given that DB's treated me like an enemy there's no reason I'd want to.
>> The loon
>
> You engage in such name calling and then wonder why you are treated like an
> "enemy".

I know why DB treats me like one, despite the fact I've helped him many
times, YOU are the reason.

> You lack self awareness.

Projected the guy who lacks sobriety.

>> has stuck his neck out, trashing his rep even further on your
>> behalf, and you don't seem willing to help him on things that matter to
>> him. What kind of 'friend' are you? (this reminds me of when Marek gave
>> you that computer and you immediately went back to treating him like
>> sh*t once you had it in your hands).
>
> More of your drama.

Great answer from a 'dedicated friend' <eyeroll>.

"Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality
disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense
of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and
admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others."

<https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20366662>

All that's missing is your picture. Mr. 'Empathy'.

On 2022-04-11, FromTheRafters <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> David Brooks wrote :
>> On 11/04/2022 12:43, FromTheRafters wrote:
>>> After serious thinking David Brooks wrote :
>>>> On 10/04/2022 23:59, David Brooks adjusted his post to read:-
>>>>>
>>>>> I've just run another check using EasyFind and there are STILL items from
>>>>> Etrecheck left active on my machine.
>>>>
>>>> *I have now deleted them*.
>>>>
>>>> Here they are in my Waste Bin!  https://ibb.co/7kr7mNK
>>>>
>>>> Something odd about this!
>>>
>>> Maybe that's the point. They gave you the opportunity to decide for
>>> yourself whether or not you wanted to keep them.
>>
>> You don't often miss the point.
>>
>> You did this time. :-(
>
> There was a point?
>
> You should warn me when you do something different.

LOL!

It seems like it's all gotta be a game but he is good at it, pretending
he's concerned about these 'nefarious' files. Maybe I'm too easy a mark,
part of me thinks the concern might be genuine and the reason he ignores
things people tell him is because he's positive 'someone is out to get
him' or some such. As long as you guys have watched him, I'm not sure
any of you can actually answer this question.

On Apr 11, 2022 at 11:42:18 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<t31sqa$3cc$9@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

> On 2022-04-11, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> (snip)
>
>>>>> You will no doubt have the same files hidden away on YOUR computer as
>>>>> you have also downloaded EtreCheck.
>>>>>
>>>>> What if they actually ARE nefarious?
>>>>
>>>> Is there any app that does not leave such files behind? And are they launched
>>>> or used in any way?
>>>
>>> *NO* application should leave malware hidden on a computer.
>>
>> Agreed... but we were talking files in general. Are there any apps that do not
>> leave any behind? There may be... I have not done any deep checks.

> YOU were doing that, Mr. Interpreter. Like I said, he's on a 'mission'.
>
> You can start eating that crow now ;)

More of your drama... and lying.

>
>>>>> Do you care enough to contact the developer to ask why they are still on
>>>>> your computer?
>>>>
>>>> Not without reason.
>>>
>>> The reason is simply to clarify /why/ such files are left behind after
>>> the product has supposedly been removed from a computer.
>
> Ask on the Apple support forum. Oh... wait...

More of your drama.

Steve Carroll:
-----
I've been booted off by past providers before because people
complain about me and all my bullshit. I don't want to lose my ISP
*again* but I still need my army of sock puppets so I continually
search usenet for whatever servers I haven't yet been booted
from.
-----

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Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 2022-04-11, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 11, 2022 at 11:42:18 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
><t31sqa$3cc$9@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>
>> On 2022-04-11, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> (snip)
>>
>>>>>> You will no doubt have the same files hidden away on YOUR computer as
>>>>>> you have also downloaded EtreCheck.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What if they actually ARE nefarious?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there any app that does not leave such files behind? And are they launched
>>>>> or used in any way?
>>>>
>>>> *NO* application should leave malware hidden on a computer.
>>>
>>> Agreed... but we were talking files in general. Are there any apps that do not
>>> leave any behind? There may be... I have not done any deep checks.
>
>> YOU were doing that, Mr. Interpreter. Like I said, he's on a 'mission'.
>>
>> You can start eating that crow now ;)
>
> More of your drama... and lying.
>
>>
>>>>>> Do you care enough to contact the developer to ask why they are still on
>>>>>> your computer?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not without reason.
>>>>
>>>> The reason is simply to clarify /why/ such files are left behind after
>>>> the product has supposedly been removed from a computer.
>>
>> Ask on the Apple support forum. Oh... wait...
>
> More of your drama.
>
> Steve Carroll:
> -----
> I've been booted off by past providers before because people
> complain about me and all my bullshit. I don't want to lose my ISP
> *again* but I still need my army of sock puppets so I continually
> search usenet for whatever servers I haven't yet been booted
> from.
> -----

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On Apr 11, 2022 at 11:38:10 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<t31sii$3cc$8@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

> On 2022-04-11, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> (snip)
>
>>>> How many services have you been banned from? How many have you lost accounts
>>>> with?
>>>
>>> No services, one account when you ratted on me because you were seething
>>> with rage (I opened another account within minutes). I don't need to ask
>>> the same of you, I'm familiar with your history of losing usenet providers.
>>
>> Do you deny you are the author of this quote?
>>
>> I've been booted off by past providers before because people
>> complain about me and all my bullshit. I don't want to lose my ISP
>> *again* but I still need my army of sock puppets so I continually
>> search usenet for whatever servers I haven't yet been booted
>> from.
>
> I don't deny that I wrote that

Right. Those are YOUR words. I know you want to push them onto others as a
part of your trolling, but YOU wrote that.
>
>> And do you deny you were booted from X10?
>
> Booted? No. Suspended, yes,

OK. That is one.
>
>> How about Comcast?
>
> I'm still using them.

Do you admit you have been suspended from them?
>
>> How about FreeHostingEU? AwardSpace
>
> I have accounts with both.

And you deny ever being suspended by either of them? Any content taken down?

>
>> Has Imgur taken down your images?
>
> I have no idea what they've taken down

LOL! You have had your hand slapped so many times you cannot recall why, eh?
>
>> How about your GigaNews account
>
> What account?

Yours that got suspended, of course.

And you snipped:

How about your fretwizzen account?

Hmmm, yeah, you somehow forgot to deny that one. :)

>
>>>>>> How would you feel about contacting JD and discussing this whole
>>>>>> scenario with him?
>>>>>
>>>>> I've no need, I know how the files get there and what they generally do.
>>>>> I've stayed out of it because you ignored me the last time I tried to
>>>>> help you.
>>>>
>>>> If you did it was buried in your drama and trolling.
>>>
>>> ? Uh.. sober up?
>>
>> More of your focus on substance abuse.
>
> You clearly believe people will buy your ridiculous 'stories' so
> something must drive that foolishness.
>

More of your drama and victim games.

The point here is simple: even though you attack David for his bans, you
ignore your own... and try to back off of your own quote:

I've been booted off by past providers before because people
complain about me and all my bullshit. I don't want to lose my ISP
*again* but I still need my army of sock puppets so I continually
search usenet for whatever servers I haven't yet been booted
from.

That is you. You are the author. Period.

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On Apr 11, 2022 at 11:47:26 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<t31t3u$3cc$10@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

> On 2022-04-11, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 11, 2022 at 11:22:22 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>> <t31rku$3cc$6@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>
>>> On 2022-04-11, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> (snip)
>>>
>>>>>>> You will no doubt have the same files hidden away on YOUR computer as
>>>>>>> you have also downloaded EtreCheck.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What if they actually ARE nefarious?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there any app that does not leave such files behind?
>>>>>
>>>>> "nefarious" files? ;)
>>>>
>>>> Another concept that confuses you. OK.
>>>
>>> I was joking... but are you agreeing with his veiled suggestion they
>>> "ARE nefarious"?
>>
>> He *asked* if they might be. Your effort to create drama is noted.
>
> Right.

Good.

> .. and it's all just my imagination <eyeroll>.

You lie about pretty much everything.

>
>>>>>>> Do you care enough to contact the developer to ask why they are still on
>>>>>>> your computer?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not without reason.
>>>>>
>>>>> He's your 'friend' and he can no longer talk to the dev. That's not
>>>>> reason enough?
>>>>
>>>> If you want to talk to him you can.
>>>
>>> Given that DB's treated me like an enemy there's no reason I'd want to.
>>> The loon
>>
>> You engage in such name calling and then wonder why you are treated like an
>> "enemy".
>
> I know why DB treats me like one, despite the fact I've helped him many
> times, YOU are the reason.

How about you take responsibility for your own actions?
>
>> You lack self awareness.
>
> Projected the guy who lacks sobriety.

More of your focus on substance abuse.

>
>>> has stuck his neck out, trashing his rep even further on your
>>> behalf, and you don't seem willing to help him on things that matter to
>>> him. What kind of 'friend' are you? (this reminds me of when Marek gave
>>> you that computer and you immediately went back to treating him like
>>> sh*t once you had it in your hands).
>>
>> More of your drama.
>
> Great answer

But it still goes over your head.

> from a 'dedicated friend' <eyeroll>.
>
> "Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality
> disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense
> of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and
> admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others."

You are gaining some self awareness. OK.

>
> <https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20366662>
>
> All that's missing is your picture. Mr. 'Empathy'.

More of your drama.

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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Apr 11, 2022 at 11:53:18 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<t31teu$3cc$11@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

> On 2022-04-11, FromTheRafters <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> David Brooks wrote :
>>> On 11/04/2022 12:43, FromTheRafters wrote:
>>>> After serious thinking David Brooks wrote :
>>>>> On 10/04/2022 23:59, David Brooks adjusted his post to read:-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've just run another check using EasyFind and there are STILL items from
>>>>>> Etrecheck left active on my machine.
>>>>>
>>>>> *I have now deleted them*.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here they are in my Waste Bin! https://ibb.co/7kr7mNK
>>>>>
>>>>> Something odd about this!
>>>>
>>>> Maybe that's the point. They gave you the opportunity to decide for
>>>> yourself whether or not you wanted to keep them.
>>>
>>> You don't often miss the point.
>>>
>>> You did this time. :-(
>>
>> There was a point?
>>
>> You should warn me when you do something different.
>
> LOL!
>
> It seems like it's all gotta be a game but he is good at it, pretending
> he's concerned about these 'nefarious' files. Maybe I'm too easy a mark,
> part of me thinks the concern might be genuine and the reason he ignores
> things people tell him is because he's positive 'someone is out to get
> him' or some such. As long as you guys have watched him, I'm not sure
> any of you can actually answer this question.

More of your drama.

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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Apr 11, 2022 at 11:58:48 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<t31tp8$3cc$12@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

> On 2022-04-11, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 11, 2022 at 11:42:18 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>> <t31sqa$3cc$9@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>
>>> On 2022-04-11, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> (snip)
>>>
>>>>>>> You will no doubt have the same files hidden away on YOUR computer as
>>>>>>> you have also downloaded EtreCheck.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What if they actually ARE nefarious?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there any app that does not leave such files behind? And are they launched
>>>>>> or used in any way?
>>>>>
>>>>> *NO* application should leave malware hidden on a computer.
>>>>
>>>> Agreed... but we were talking files in general. Are there any apps that do not
>>>> leave any behind? There may be... I have not done any deep checks.
>>
>>> YOU were doing that, Mr. Interpreter. Like I said, he's on a 'mission'.
>>>
>>> You can start eating that crow now ;)
>>
>> More of your drama... and lying.
>>
>>>
>>>>>>> Do you care enough to contact the developer to ask why they are still on
>>>>>>> your computer?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not without reason.
>>>>>
>>>>> The reason is simply to clarify /why/ such files are left behind after
>>>>> the product has supposedly been removed from a computer.
>>>
>>> Ask on the Apple support forum. Oh... wait...
>>
>> More of your drama.
>>
>> Steve Carroll:
>> -----
>> I've been booted off by past providers before because people
>> complain about me and all my bullshit. I don't want to lose my ISP
>> *again* but I still need my army of sock puppets so I continually
>> search usenet for whatever servers I haven't yet been booted
>> from.
>> -----
>
> <http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=159898367900>
> <BB90EDA3.27F09%snit@cableon.net>
>
> <https://thefaceofmentalillness.wordpress.com/2014/01/12/the-face-of-mental-illness-1122014/>
>
> <https://www.fasdwaterlooregion.ca/strategies-tools/sub-page-test-2/storytelling>
>
> <https://web.archive.org/web/20190529043314/http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitlist.html>

Are you ready to admit you have a son that goes by the name Ryan Sullivan?

Ryan Sullivan <sf4adq$f7v$1@gioia.aioe.org>:
-----
My father is jealous of my success in being sober since Nov 2
2018. He has not been able to stop that addiction nor his
addiction to the guy who goes by Snit in these groups.

I have no shame in being sober and am proud of how far I have
gotten considering the influences I had growing up. Does not stop
him from bringing it up to Adriana any time he sees her as he
tries to break us up.

I do not know who you are Snit, but my father is not a mentally
well man. He talks about you all the time. You are right that he
is wasting his life on whatever petty battle he has with you.
-----

Ryan Sullivan <sf4b12$l3u$1@gioia.aioe.org>
-----
My father has shown me this bot running. It is his. He speaks of
using it to prove to Snit he can make a better bot.
-----

Ryan Sullivan <sf4b2v$l3u$2@gioia.aioe.org>
-----
Is this about that Prescott site you talk about and ask us if your
work is better?
-----

Ryan Sullivan <sf6j6k$4fn$1@gioia.aioe.org>:
-----
Why could you not spend as much time focused on me and Steve as
you do on this guy online?
-----

Ryan Sullivan <sf6j6v$4fn$2@gioia.aioe.org>:
-----
You played a few gigs and grifted as you got your kids to drink.
You're a piece of shit father.
-----

Ryan Sullivan <XnsADB0B5EAF75DA443322@46.165.242.75>
-----
Unfortunately my father who posts here as Steve Carroll is a
mentally ill person.

He abuses alcohol and drugs as well and is a controil freak
maniac.

My mom left him years ago due to his substance abuse.

So my dad has been stalking snit Michael Glasser for years. I do
not know why but it is a major part of his life. My advice is to
ignore Steve Carroll and his many nyms.
-----

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Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 2022-04-11, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 11, 2022 at 11:38:10 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
><t31sii$3cc$8@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>
>> On 2022-04-11, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> (snip)
>>
>>>>> How many services have you been banned from? How many have you lost accounts
>>>>> with?
>>>>
>>>> No services, one account when you ratted on me because you were seething
>>>> with rage (I opened another account within minutes). I don't need to ask
>>>> the same of you, I'm familiar with your history of losing usenet providers.
>>>
>>> Do you deny you are the author of this quote?
>>>
>>> I've been booted off by past providers before because people
>>> complain about me and all my bullshit. I don't want to lose my ISP
>>> *again* but I still need my army of sock puppets so I continually
>>> search usenet for whatever servers I haven't yet been booted
>>> from.
>>
>> I don't deny that I wrote that as an example of what you would have
>> written, were you honest, which is, as we both know, the reason you
>> didn't include a link. People are not as stupid as you need them to be,
>> they just aren't. It's nearing two decades, what's so difficult about
>> this for you. Pride?
>
> Right. Those are YOUR words.

Written for the reason I said, which is why you left out the link. We
all know your game. Who *hasn't* seen it? So, is it pride?

On Apr 11, 2022 at 12:03:24 PM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<t31u1s$3cc$13@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

> On 2022-04-11, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 11, 2022 at 11:38:10 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>> <t31sii$3cc$8@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>
>>> On 2022-04-11, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> (snip)
>>>
>>>>>> How many services have you been banned from? How many have you lost accounts
>>>>>> with?
>>>>>
>>>>> No services, one account when you ratted on me because you were seething
>>>>> with rage (I opened another account within minutes). I don't need to ask
>>>>> the same of you, I'm familiar with your history of losing usenet providers.
>>>>
>>>> Do you deny you are the author of this quote?
>>>>
>>>> I've been booted off by past providers before because people
>>>> complain about me and all my bullshit. I don't want to lose my ISP
>>>> *again* but I still need my army of sock puppets so I continually
>>>> search usenet for whatever servers I haven't yet been booted
>>>> from.
>>>
>>> I don't deny that I wrote that as an example of what you would have
>>> written, were you honest, which is, as we both know, the reason you
>>> didn't include a link. People are not as stupid as you need them to be,
>>> they just aren't. It's nearing two decades, what's so difficult about
>>> this for you. Pride?
>>
>> Right. Those are YOUR words. I know you want to push them onto others as a
>> part of your trolling, but YOU wrote that.

> Written for the reason I said,

To push your trolling and drama. Sure. But still YOUR words. You are the
author of this quote:

I've been booted off by past providers before because people
complain about me and all my bullshit. I don't want to lose my ISP
*again* but I still need my army of sock puppets so I continually
search usenet for whatever servers I haven't yet been booted
from.

You can make all the excuses you want... but it is still YOU.

And then there are those other services:

https://comp.sys.mac.system.narkive.com/XJ5ARNFy/the-truth-about-steve-carroll
-----
Some examples where Steven has been booted

X10 Hosting booted Steven for inappropriate activity
http://tinyurl.com/z92qmz4

Comcast booted Steven for inappropriate activity
http://tinyurl.com/h75nh9l

FreeHostingEU booted Steven for copyright infringement
http://devsite.eu.pn

AwardSpace (atwebpages.com) booted Steven for breaking terms of
service http://demsites.atwebpages.com/pokeman

Imgur took down an image for breaking terms of service
http://imgur.com/yv2XppE

Had a GigaNews account which was removed for harassing David

Stopped posting from his fretwizzen Google account since shortly
after I complained. Seems he lost that too.

His wife booted Steven to the curb for cheating on her
-----

How many accounts have you had suspended or cancelled based on your trolling?
How much media?

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Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 11/04/2022 19:17, Snit wrote:
> On Apr 11, 2022 at 11:06:25 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <F6_4K.392826$Lc1.290695@fx12.ams1>:
>
>> On 11/04/2022 16:51, Snit wrote:
>>> On Apr 11, 2022 at 8:29:53 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <SPX4K.392678$Lc1.310170@fx12.ams1>:
>>>
>>>> On 11/04/2022 16:14, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 11, 2022 at 2:14:53 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>> <ikS4K.551384$sb1.275030@fx11.ams1>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/04/2022 00:54, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>> On Apr 10, 2022 at 4:07:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>> <UqJ4K.551383$sb1.72491@fx11.ams1>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/04/2022 23:59, David Brooks adjusted his post to read:-
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've just run another check using EasyFind and there are STILL items
>>>>>>>>> from Etrecheck left active on my machine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *I have now deleted them*.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here they are in my Waste Bin! https://ibb.co/7kr7mNK
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Something odd about this!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What apps do not leave such things behind?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By that comment you appear to think that they are legitimate!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They MUST be there for a reason.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WHAT reason?
>>>>>
>>>>> I gave some: if and when you reinstall an app you might want the same
>>>>> preferences, for example. In other cases it is a file that allows you to keep
>>>>> your license. There are others which are placed in specific folders so the OS
>>>>> knows how to do a specific thing, and those should be removed -- but to leave
>>>>> them does no real harm. They tend to be tiny and harmless. If there are
>>>>> drivers and the like left behind, though, that can be an issue.
>>>>
>>>> You will no doubt have the same files hidden away on YOUR computer as
>>>> you have also downloaded EtreCheck.
>>>>
>>>> What if they actually ARE nefarious?
>>>
>>> Is there any app that does not leave such files behind? And are they launched
>>> or used in any way?
>>
>> *NO* application should leave malware hidden on a computer.
>
> Agreed... but we were talking files in general. Are there any apps that do not
> leave any behind? There may be... I have not done any deep checks.

I don't wish to argue with you. It is EtreCheck I have been discussing.

>>>> Do you care enough to contact the developer to ask why they are still on
>>>> your computer?
>>>
>>> Not without reason.
>>
>> The reason is simply to clarify /why/ such files are left behind after
>> the product has supposedly been removed from a computer.
>
> It is the way macOS works. The standard uninstall method is to just drag the
> file from the Applications folder. Some small files that are saved elsewhere
> are not removed.

You haven't been paying attention my friend! EtreCheck is not an proper
'application' and is NOT installed!

Will you explain WHY you are reluctant to contact the developer about
this matter? It won't cost anything more than a few minutes of your time.

On 2022-04-11, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:

(snip)

> Will you explain WHY you are reluctant to contact the developer about
> this matter? It won't cost anything more than a few minutes of your time.

Why don't you write it up and if he's OK with the wording, go from
there? You're asking for his time, use less of it and convey the words
*you* want to convey <shrug>.

On 11/04/2022 19:28, FromTheRafters wrote:
> David Brooks wrote :
>> On 11/04/2022 12:43, FromTheRafters wrote:
>>> After serious thinking David Brooks wrote :
>>>> On 10/04/2022 23:59, David Brooks adjusted his post to read:-
>>>>>
>>>>> I've just run another check using EasyFind and there are STILL
>>>>> items from Etrecheck left active on my machine.
>>>>
>>>> *I have now deleted them*.
>>>>
>>>> Here they are in my Waste Bin!  https://ibb.co/7kr7mNK
>>>>
>>>> Something odd about this!
>>>
>>> Maybe that's the point. They gave you the opportunity to decide for
>>> yourself whether or not you wanted to keep them.
>>
>> You don't often miss the point.
>>
>> You did this time. :-(
>
> There was a point?
>
> You should warn me when you do something different.

Of course. To both.

Who did you mean by "They"?

The EtreCheck removal process ignores the fact that hidden files will be
left on the host computer. A normal user would be completely unaware
that files associated with EtreCheck will remain in place.
No opportunity is given to "decide for yourself" as you put it.

On 11 Apr 2022, David Brooks wrote
(in article <ja%4K.57628$3b1.33516@fx14.ams1>):

> On 11/04/2022 19:17, Snit wrote:
> > On Apr 11, 2022 at 11:06:25 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> > <F6_4K.392826$Lc1.290695@fx12.ams1>:
> >
> > > On 11/04/2022 16:51, Snit wrote:
> > > > On Apr 11, 2022 at 8:29:53 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> > > > <SPX4K.392678$Lc1.310170@fx12.ams1>:
> > > >
> > > > > On 11/04/2022 16:14, Snit wrote:
> > > > > > On Apr 11, 2022 at 2:14:53 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> > > > > > <ikS4K.551384$sb1.275030@fx11.ams1>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 11/04/2022 00:54, Snit wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Apr 10, 2022 at 4:07:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> > > > > > > > <UqJ4K.551383$sb1.72491@fx11.ams1>:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 10/04/2022 23:59, David Brooks adjusted his post to read:-
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I've just run another check using EasyFind and there are STILL items
> > > > > > > > > > from Etrecheck left active on my machine.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > *I have now deleted them*.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Here they are in my Waste Bin! https://ibb.co/7kr7mNK
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Something odd about this!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What apps do not leave such things behind?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > By that comment you appear to think that they are legitimate!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > They MUST be there for a reason.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > WHAT reason?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I gave some: if and when you reinstall an app you might want the same
> > > > > > preferences, for example. In other cases it is a file that allows you
> > > > > > to keep
> > > > > > your license. There are others which are placed in specific folders so
> > > > > > the OS
> > > > > > knows how to do a specific thing, and those should be removed -- but to
> > > > > > leave
> > > > > > them does no real harm. They tend to be tiny and harmless. If there are
> > > > > > drivers and the like left behind, though, that can be an issue.
> > > > >
> > > > > You will no doubt have the same files hidden away on YOUR computer as
> > > > > you have also downloaded EtreCheck.
> > > > >
> > > > > What if they actually ARE nefarious?
> > > >
> > > > Is there any app that does not leave such files behind? And are they
> > > > launched
> > > > or used in any way?
> > >
> > > *NO* application should leave malware hidden on a computer.
> >
> > Agreed... but we were talking files in general. Are there any apps that do
> > not
> > leave any behind? There may be... I have not done any deep checks.
>
> I don't wish to argue with you. It is EtreCheck I have been discussing.
>
> > > > > Do you care enough to contact the developer to ask why they are still on
> > > > > your computer?
> > > >
> > > > Not without reason.
> > >
> > > The reason is simply to clarify /why/ such files are left behind after
> > > the product has supposedly been removed from a computer.
> >
> > It is the way macOS works. The standard uninstall method is to just drag the
> > file from the Applications folder. Some small files that are saved elsewhere
> > are not removed.
>
> You haven't been paying attention my friend! EtreCheck is not an proper
> 'application'

yes it is. For one thing, a Get Info shows it to be of type Application. For
another, what’s ‘improper’ about how it istalls?
> and is NOT installed!

yes it is. There are many ways to install an app. you’re merely an
ignoramous.
>
>
> Will you explain WHY you are reluctant to contact the developer about
> this matter?

because he sees nothing to contact the dev about.
> It won't cost anything more than a few minutes of your time.

no-one except you cares... and you’re a psychotic idiot with delusions of
adequacy.

On Apr 11, 2022 at 12:18:38 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<ja%4K.57628$3b1.33516@fx14.ams1>:

> On 11/04/2022 19:17, Snit wrote:
>> On Apr 11, 2022 at 11:06:25 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <F6_4K.392826$Lc1.290695@fx12.ams1>:
>>
>>> On 11/04/2022 16:51, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Apr 11, 2022 at 8:29:53 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>> <SPX4K.392678$Lc1.310170@fx12.ams1>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/04/2022 16:14, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On Apr 11, 2022 at 2:14:53 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>> <ikS4K.551384$sb1.275030@fx11.ams1>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/04/2022 00:54, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Apr 10, 2022 at 4:07:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>> <UqJ4K.551383$sb1.72491@fx11.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 10/04/2022 23:59, David Brooks adjusted his post to read:-
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've just run another check using EasyFind and there are STILL items
>>>>>>>>>> from Etrecheck left active on my machine.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *I have now deleted them*.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here they are in my Waste Bin! https://ibb.co/7kr7mNK
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Something odd about this!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What apps do not leave such things behind?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By that comment you appear to think that they are legitimate!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They MUST be there for a reason.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WHAT reason?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I gave some: if and when you reinstall an app you might want the same
>>>>>> preferences, for example. In other cases it is a file that allows you to keep
>>>>>> your license. There are others which are placed in specific folders so the OS
>>>>>> knows how to do a specific thing, and those should be removed -- but to leave
>>>>>> them does no real harm. They tend to be tiny and harmless. If there are
>>>>>> drivers and the like left behind, though, that can be an issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> You will no doubt have the same files hidden away on YOUR computer as
>>>>> you have also downloaded EtreCheck.
>>>>>
>>>>> What if they actually ARE nefarious?
>>>>
>>>> Is there any app that does not leave such files behind? And are they launched
>>>> or used in any way?
>>>
>>> *NO* application should leave malware hidden on a computer.
>>
>> Agreed... but we were talking files in general. Are there any apps that do not
>> leave any behind? There may be... I have not done any deep checks.
>
> I don't wish to argue with you. It is EtreCheck I have been discussing.

I understand that. But part of the question, if I understand correctly, is if
EtreCheck is doing something uncommon (no less untoward). So far I have seen
no evidence it is doing either.

>>>>> Do you care enough to contact the developer to ask why they are still on
>>>>> your computer?
>>>>
>>>> Not without reason.
>>>
>>> The reason is simply to clarify /why/ such files are left behind after
>>> the product has supposedly been removed from a computer.
>>
>> It is the way macOS works. The standard uninstall method is to just drag the
>> file from the Applications folder. Some small files that are saved elsewhere
>> are not removed.
>
> You haven't been paying attention my friend! EtreCheck is not an proper
> 'application' and is NOT installed!

Not sure what you mean by a "proper" application. As far as installation -- it
installs the way many macOS apps do, though drag and drop. Some also get
installed from the store or from an installer (though these are fairly rare).
Do you mean it is not available in the App store?

> Will you explain WHY you are reluctant to contact the developer about
> this matter? It won't cost anything more than a few minutes of your time.

Not sure what I would even be asking. His app has files that get left behind
-- as do other apps. Is there a reason to be concerned with this?

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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.