On Sunday, 27 November 2022 at 08:03:21 UTC, Graeme wrote:
> In message <tlra3t$1gj$2...@gioia.aioe.org>, SH <i.lov...@spam.com>
> writes
>
> >So you're suggesting I solder in a gas distribution network all over
> >the house to a load of ceiling mounted gas lamps?
>
> We had another power cut a few days ago. Plenty of warning, not least
> the lights flickering a couple of times, so well prepared.
>
> The gas lighting in question is Camping Gaz, not mains supply.
> Individual, portable lights with disposable gas containers. Not the
> cheapest way to buy gas, but convenient, and certainly give off a good
> light, more than enough to light a room, far more so than torches
> whether conventional or LED, and stored gas (or Gaz) canisters do not
> expire, like batteries. Works for us.

I paid £1 each for large no-name cylinders back in the 90s, giving a lifetime's supply of powercut lighting. Is there a cheaper way to get gas?
The lights are about 60w equivalent output iirc.

On Sunday, 27 November 2022 at 12:09:11 UTC, SH wrote:
> On 27/11/2022 08:03, Graeme wrote:
> > In message <tlra3t$1gj$2...@gioia.aioe.org>, SH <i.lov...@spam.com> writes
> >
> >> So you're suggesting I solder in a gas distribution network all over
> >> the house to a load of ceiling mounted gas lamps?
> >
> > We had another power cut a few days ago. Plenty of warning, not least
> > the lights flickering a couple of times, so well prepared.
> >
> > The gas lighting in question is Camping Gaz, not mains supply.
> > Individual, portable lights with disposable gas containers. Not the
> > cheapest way to buy gas, but convenient, and certainly give off a good
> > light, more than enough to light a room, far more so than torches
> > whether conventional or LED, and stored gas (or Gaz) canisters do not
> > expire, like batteries. Works for us.
> >
> I am comfortable with using Camping gaz lamps outdoors but I would be
> wary of using them indoors due to CO and CO2 production as well as the
> attendant fire risk if one should be knocked over (like candles) and
> there is also the PM10 soot particulates as well.

Humanity has been using unvented gas indoors for a long time, and it's still widespread permitted practice. Or are you a gashobphone?
It's hard to knock a lamp over when it's attached to a hook just above head height, but maybe you can.
PM10, well the quantity is miniscule compared to car exhaust, and I've inhaled enough of that. I bet vacuum cleaners create far more.

On Sunday, 27 November 2022 at 12:28:38 UTC, Colin Bignell wrote:
> On 27/11/2022 08:03, Graeme wrote:
> > In message <tlra3t$1gj$2...@gioia.aioe.org>, SH <i.lov...@spam.com> writes
> >
> >> So you're suggesting I solder in a gas distribution network all over
> >> the house to a load of ceiling mounted gas lamps?
> >
> > We had another power cut a few days ago. Plenty of warning, not least
> > the lights flickering a couple of times, so well prepared.
> >
> > The gas lighting in question is Camping Gaz, not mains supply.
> > Individual, portable lights with disposable gas containers. Not the
> > cheapest way to buy gas, but convenient, and certainly give off a good
> > light, more than enough to light a room, far more so than torches
> > whether conventional or LED, and stored gas (or Gaz) canisters do not
> > expire, like batteries. Works for us.
> >
> You do, however, have to store the canisters carefully, to avoid
> rusting,

how have you managed to rust ally canisters?

> and you should only store unused canisters. Storing part used
> canisters can present an explosion risk.

It's normal practice to store canisters on lights & blowlamps indoors, just as it's normal to use mains gas appliances supplied via rubber hoses & rubber sealing rings. Anything can go wrong, but there doesn't seem to be a serious risk in practice.

> They also don't come on automatically when the power fails, so some
> emergency lighting is advisable as well.

I dunno about you, I've never had any difficulty walking to that bit of the room to light the gas light, or the electric one when those have been used, in darkness. Do you have a disorientation issue?

On 27/11/2022 23:39, Animal wrote:
> On Sunday, 27 November 2022 at 12:09:11 UTC, SH wrote:
>> On 27/11/2022 08:03, Graeme wrote:
>>> In message <tlra3t$1gj$2...@gioia.aioe.org>, SH <i.lov...@spam.com> writes
>>>
>>>> So you're suggesting I solder in a gas distribution network all over
>>>> the house to a load of ceiling mounted gas lamps?
>>>
>>> We had another power cut a few days ago. Plenty of warning, not least
>>> the lights flickering a couple of times, so well prepared.
>>>
>>> The gas lighting in question is Camping Gaz, not mains supply.
>>> Individual, portable lights with disposable gas containers. Not the
>>> cheapest way to buy gas, but convenient, and certainly give off a good
>>> light, more than enough to light a room, far more so than torches
>>> whether conventional or LED, and stored gas (or Gaz) canisters do not
>>> expire, like batteries. Works for us.
>>>
>> I am comfortable with using Camping gaz lamps outdoors but I would be
>> wary of using them indoors due to CO and CO2 production as well as the
>> attendant fire risk if one should be knocked over (like candles) and
>> there is also the PM10 soot particulates as well.
>
> Humanity has been using unvented gas indoors for a long time, and it's still widespread permitted practice. Or are you a gashobphone?

I do as it happens have two gas ovens and a gas hom. There is an
extracftor fan installed which is wired into the main cooker power
switch (the two grills are both electric and its got electronic ignition)

So turn on the cooker switch to power the gas ignition and the extractor
fan comes on automatically.

As the Kitchen room size is less than the recommended room volume for 2
gas ovens and 5 gas hobs, electromechanically assisted ventilation is
needed to get the GasSafe pass so it can pull air into the kitchen.

> It's hard to knock a lamp over when it's attached to a hook just above head height, but maybe you can.
> PM10, well the quantity is miniscule compared to car exhaust, and I've inhaled enough of that. I bet vacuum cleaners create far more.