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Re: Elden Ring

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 by: PW - Sat, 2 Apr 2022 02:34 UTC

Oh I have smithing stone[1] 6[3] red 6 the sword I started with +2

2 (3) Greatsword
red 4(3) finger seal
2(3) brass shield.

That is it so far.

-pw

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>
>There's some militia outside the building at Greyolls that if you can kill them drop a
>lot of runes. You may need to upgrade your sword to +3, but there's some areas you
>can do it with the help of your wolves, they can also be snuck up on and backstabbed
>as most are alone. It may be worth trying if you're feeling stuck. If you avoid the
>giant outside (just go left or right and make a bit of a berth) and ride down
>the road it'll take you to a safer grace.
>

*---

Way too tough and fast for me, and they send some yellow stuff, waves
and I die instantly. Somehow I did kill one and got a bunch of runes.

Tried another with wolves but they were too slow to attack so I died.
I had the bad guy target.

What did I do wrong?/

-pw

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On 4/1/2022 8:26 PM, PW wrote:
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>> There's some militia outside the building at Greyolls that if you can kill them drop a
>> lot of runes. You may need to upgrade your sword to +3, but there's some areas you
>> can do it with the help of your wolves, they can also be snuck up on and backstabbed
>> as most are alone. It may be worth trying if you're feeling stuck. If you avoid the
>> giant outside (just go left or right and make a bit of a berth) and ride down
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> Way too tough and fast for me, and they send some yellow stuff, waves
> and I die instantly. Somehow I did kill one and got a bunch of runes.
>
> Tried another with wolves but they were too slow to attack so I died.
> I had the bad guy target.
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> What did I do wrong?/
>
Died? :P

--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

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On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 8:26:31 PM UTC-7, PW wrote:
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> >There's some militia outside the building at Greyolls that if you can kill them drop a
> >lot of runes. You may need to upgrade your sword to +3, but there's some areas you
> >can do it with the help of your wolves, they can also be snuck up on and backstabbed
> >as most are alone. It may be worth trying if you're feeling stuck. If you avoid the
> >giant outside (just go left or right and make a bit of a berth) and ride down
> >the road it'll take you to a safer grace.
> >
> *---
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> Way too tough and fast for me, and they send some yellow stuff, waves
> and I die instantly. Somehow I did kill one and got a bunch of runes.
>
> Tried another with wolves but they were too slow to attack so I died.
> I had the bad guy target.
>
> What did I do wrong?/

Try on foot, and sneak up on them, preferably for a backstab.
You can try to use the assassin's approach spell to help with
the sneaking, as you can run while sneaking with it.

When they do their 'claw' you can roll left or right and won't get
hit if your timing is good, not too hard on that attack, or you'll
sometimes roll out of the area.

Their melee attacks are nasty though, try to roll toward them
when they look like they're doing those unless you're far
enough that you think you can roll far enough away to avoid
them.

For using the wolves, you may want to stay on horseback, and
lure the mob back toward them, keeping the wolves between
you and them. Once the wolves have agro, do a ride-by attack,
then ride off and again, and repeat.

---

For your seal, you may want to try the claw seal since you've
put some into strength, it scales more off of strength. You
also want to try two-handing that as that increases strength
by 50%. You should've got it from the big beast guy there.
The spell he gives you is also pretty good short range and
low damage, but very fast and cheap to cast.

If you didn't get that yet, you may need to kill the skeleton in a
boat first, which is north of the warp you got there with.

For other spells, as I said, go check with the prophet guy at
roundtable, he sells some, and if you find any books
you can give those to him so you can buy more.
He has Flame Sling which is like the pyromancer starting
spell in DS3, and may make it easier to kill the militia. He
also has Cure Poison, which is very useful if you don't
have the curing bolus recipe yet. Some people also
swear by Catch Flame, but it's a melee fire spell,
it does a lot of damage, but I find it too hard to use.

There's a spell in kind of the middle of Weeping Peninsula
across a bridge to the south that is one of the best
faith spells "The Flame of Frenzy" which looks utterly
insane, you may want to try to go down there for that.
There's also 2 or 3 sacred tears to upgrade your flasks
with in the temples along the north coast of the Peninsula.

Once you can get past Margit, there's a spellbook
behind one of the stone imps you have to use a key for
that has Black Flame which I found really good too.
You have to give the book to the guy in Roundtable to
buy the spell.

Oh there's also a spellbook with faith spells behind
two more stone keyed imps in the basement of
Roundtable. It has the Assassin's approach you already
have, and Darkness which blinds for a second so you
can hide, but I haven't been able to figure out how
to use that effectively, or assassin's approach for that
matter.

- Justisaur

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On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 21:21:07 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
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>On 4/1/2022 8:26 PM, PW wrote:
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>>>
>>> There's some militia outside the building at Greyolls that if you can kill them drop a
>>> lot of runes. You may need to upgrade your sword to +3, but there's some areas you
>>> can do it with the help of your wolves, they can also be snuck up on and backstabbed
>>> as most are alone. It may be worth trying if you're feeling stuck. If you avoid the
>>> giant outside (just go left or right and make a bit of a berth) and ride down
>>> the road it'll take you to a safer grace.
>>>
>>
>> *---
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>> Way too tough and fast for me, and they send some yellow stuff, waves
>> and I die instantly. Somehow I did kill one and got a bunch of runes.
>>
>> Tried another with wolves but they were too slow to attack so I died.
>> I had the bad guy target.
>>
>> What did I do wrong?/
>>
>Died? :P

Well, I was doing just fine until then :-)

-pw

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>For using the wolves, you may want to stay on horseback, and
>lure the mob back toward them, keeping the wolves between
>you and them. Once the wolves have agro, do a ride-by attack,
>then ride off and again, and repeat.
>
>---
>

*--
That makes sense. I will try that! They are nasty!

>For your seal, you may want to try the claw seal since you've
>put some into strength, it scales more off of strength. You
>also want to try two-handing that as that increases strength
>by 50%. You should've got it from the big beast guy there.
>The spell he gives you is also pretty good short range and
>low damage, but very fast and cheap to cast.

I will look up the claw seal. Is the NPC you are talking about the
big thing in the building where the site of grace is? It only mumbles
when I press E. Maybe I should look in my inventory? I wasn't t old
anything.

>
>If you didn't get that yet, you may need to kill the skeleton in a
>boat first, which is north of the warp you got there with.

I gotta remember where that was first!

>
>For other spells, as I said, go check with the prophet guy at
>roundtable, he sells some, and if you find any books
>you can give those to him so you can buy more.
>He has Flame Sling which is like the pyromancer starting
>spell in DS3, and may make it easier to kill the militia. He
>also has Cure Poison, which is very useful if you don't
>have the curing bolus recipe yet. Some people also
>swear by Catch Flame, but it's a melee fire spell,
>it does a lot of damage, but I find it too hard to use.
>
>There's a spell in kind of the middle of Weeping Peninsula
>across a bridge to the south that is one of the best
>faith spells "The Flame of Frenzy" which looks utterly
>insane, you may want to try to go down there for that.
>There's also 2 or 3 sacred tears to upgrade your flasks
>with in the temples along the north coast of the Peninsula.
>

I will search the net for that place.

>Once you can get past Margit, there's a spellbook
>behind one of the stone imps you have to use a key for
>that has Black Flame which I found really good too.
>You have to give the book to the guy in Roundtable to
>buy the spell.

Okay - I lured Margit out and went around him and jumped and galloped
to the Stormhill Shack SOG. Then I eventually went back in through
where I came out and killed a few guards but I didn't notice a stone
imp. Do I have to find it through the gate?

>
>Oh there's also a spellbook with faith spells behind
>two more stone keyed imps in the basement of
>Roundtable. It has the Assassin's approach you already
>have, and Darkness which blinds for a second so you
>can hide, but I haven't been able to figure out how
>to use that effectively, or assassin's approach for that
>matter.
>
>- Justisaur

*--

Okay - next time I am at the rountable I will look for it. I didn't
see steps down.

Right now I am reading up on how to customize the flask of wondrous
physick. It seems pretty important!

Thanks!

-pw

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Oh - Thanks for coming back up to the surface to help me Justisaur!
:-)

-pw

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Should I keep upagrading the original sword that my Confessor came
with? It is now at +2. I like it because it is fast but I think
there must be better weapons than it. I don't have any more stones
now any way. I think I do have a Somber Smithing Stone though.

-pw

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O
>Right now I am reading up on how to customize the flask of wondrous
>physick. It seems pretty important!
>

*--

Screw 'em. Very confusing right now
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On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 3:37:55 PM UTC-7, PW wrote:
> Should I keep upagrading the original sword that my Confessor came
> with? It is now at +2. I like it because it is fast but I think
> there must be better weapons than it. I don't have any more stones
> now any way. I think I do have a Somber Smithing Stone though.

My reading says it's a very good weapon. I haven't tried it in this game,
but the broadsword is pretty good in DS3, I just prefer a longer weapon.
I'd try to get it to +3 so you have a +3 weapon at least. I think there's
one for sale somewhere so you can try powerstancing (dual weild)
where you attack with both with the block button instead of blocking.
I usually find a shield better, but some enemies it's better to go
nuts with a pair of weapons.

You may be able to pair it with another straight sword, like the longsword,
which might be better since you then have a little more range in one of
the attacks.

Keep an eye out for a couple art of wars in Limgrave. There's two that
are sacred, which might work well on it if you continue investing in faith,
as they can make some of it's damage holy which scales off of faith.
If you keep going more strength, you want one that's heavy instead.
There's also the bloody slash there, the weapon art does a lot of damage.

- Justisaur

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On Sat, 2 Apr 2022 18:49:02 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
<justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 3:37:55 PM UTC-7, PW wrote:
>> Should I keep upagrading the original sword that my Confessor came
>> with? It is now at +2. I like it because it is fast but I think
>> there must be better weapons than it. I don't have any more stones
>> now any way. I think I do have a Somber Smithing Stone though.
>
>My reading says it's a very good weapon. I haven't tried it in this game,
>but the broadsword is pretty good in DS3, I just prefer a longer weapon.
>I'd try to get it to +3 so you have a +3 weapon at least. I think there's
>one for sale somewhere so you can try powerstancing (dual weild)
>where you attack with both with the block button instead of blocking.
>I usually find a shield better, but some enemies it's better to go
>nuts with a pair of weapons.
>
>You may be able to pair it with another straight sword, like the longsword,
>which might be better since you then have a little more range in one of
>the attacks.
>
>Keep an eye out for a couple art of wars in Limgrave. There's two that
>are sacred, which might work well on it if you continue investing in faith,
>as they can make some of it's damage holy which scales off of faith.
>If you keep going more strength, you want one that's heavy instead.
>There's also the bloody slash there, the weapon art does a lot of damage.
>
>- Justisaur

*--

I think I want to make long range a priority. But it is also getting
very expensive to level up now that I am at 24.

-pw

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On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 17:01:29 -0600, PW
<iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 2 Apr 2022 18:49:02 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
><justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 3:37:55 PM UTC-7, PW wrote:
>>> Should I keep upagrading the original sword that my Confessor came
>>> with? It is now at +2. I like it because it is fast but I think
>>> there must be better weapons than it. I don't have any more stones
>>> now any way. I think I do have a Somber Smithing Stone though.
>>
>>My reading says it's a very good weapon. I haven't tried it in this game,
>>but the broadsword is pretty good in DS3, I just prefer a longer weapon.
>>I'd try to get it to +3 so you have a +3 weapon at least. I think there's
>>one for sale somewhere so you can try powerstancing (dual weild)
>>where you attack with both with the block button instead of blocking.
>>I usually find a shield better, but some enemies it's better to go
>>nuts with a pair of weapons.
>>
>>You may be able to pair it with another straight sword, like the longsword,
>>which might be better since you then have a little more range in one of
>>the attacks.
>>
>>Keep an eye out for a couple art of wars in Limgrave. There's two that
>>are sacred, which might work well on it if you continue investing in faith,
>>as they can make some of it's damage holy which scales off of faith.
>>If you keep going more strength, you want one that's heavy instead.
>>There's also the bloody slash there, the weapon art does a lot of damage.
>>
>>- Justisaur
>
>*--
>
>I think I want to make long range a priority. But it is also getting
>very expensive to level up now that I am at 24.
>
>-pw

*--

Held my own at Farum greatbridge (Bestial Snacton). Level 26 now and
my vigor is 20.

Hmm... Maybe I should go spend some money and get my sword to +3 at
the roundtable.

Those guys are tough but I finally used my Assasins Approach and as
long as I locked into one at time and kept wailing away with my fast
sword, it worked great. Can I use Assasins approach and then switch
back to my shield? I did that and I had yellow shoes so I think the
answer is yes :-)

-pw

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 by: Justisaur - Mon, 4 Apr 2022 01:19 UTC

On Sunday, April 3, 2022 at 5:10:16 PM UTC-7, PW wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 17:01:29 -0600, PW
> <iamnotusing...@notinuse.com> wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 2 Apr 2022 18:49:02 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
> ><just...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 3:37:55 PM UTC-7, PW wrote:
> >>> Should I keep upagrading the original sword that my Confessor came
> >>> with? It is now at +2. I like it because it is fast but I think
> >>> there must be better weapons than it. I don't have any more stones
> >>> now any way. I think I do have a Somber Smithing Stone though.
> >>
> >>My reading says it's a very good weapon. I haven't tried it in this game,
> >>but the broadsword is pretty good in DS3, I just prefer a longer weapon.
> >>I'd try to get it to +3 so you have a +3 weapon at least. I think there's
> >>one for sale somewhere so you can try powerstancing (dual weild)
> >>where you attack with both with the block button instead of blocking.
> >>I usually find a shield better, but some enemies it's better to go
> >>nuts with a pair of weapons.
> >>
> >>You may be able to pair it with another straight sword, like the longsword,
> >>which might be better since you then have a little more range in one of
> >>the attacks.
> >>
> >>Keep an eye out for a couple art of wars in Limgrave. There's two that
> >>are sacred, which might work well on it if you continue investing in faith,
> >>as they can make some of it's damage holy which scales off of faith.
> >>If you keep going more strength, you want one that's heavy instead.
> >>There's also the bloody slash there, the weapon art does a lot of damage.
> >>
> >>- Justisaur
> >
> >*--
> >
> >I think I want to make long range a priority. But it is also getting
> >very expensive to level up now that I am at 24.
> >
> >-pw
> *--
>
> Held my own at Farum greatbridge (Bestial Snacton). Level 26 now and
> my vigor is 20.
>
> Hmm... Maybe I should go spend some money and get my sword to +3 at
> the roundtable.
>
> Those guys are tough but I finally used my Assasins Approach and as
> long as I locked into one at time and kept wailing away with my fast
> sword, it worked great. Can I use Assasins approach and then switch
> back to my shield? I did that and I had yellow shoes so I think the
> answer is yes :-)

Yes. I forgot to mention since it's second nature to me, when you
backstab, wait a beat then start charging a heavy attack, you'll
get one off for quite a bit more damage just as they're coming
out of immunity from getting up. Heavier weapons you have
to start doing immediately, really light ones like daggers you
have to wait a little longer.

- Justisaur

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 by: PW - Mon, 4 Apr 2022 02:12 UTC

>> Those guys are tough but I finally used my Assasins Approach and as
>> long as I locked into one at time and kept wailing away with my fast
>> sword, it worked great. Can I use Assasins approach and then switch
>> back to my shield? I did that and I had yellow shoes so I think the
>> answer is yes :-)
>
>Yes. I forgot to mention since it's second nature to me, when you
>backstab, wait a beat then start charging a heavy attack, you'll
>get one off for quite a bit more damage just as they're coming
>out of immunity from getting up. Heavier weapons you have
>to start doing immediately, really light ones like daggers you
>have to wait a little longer.
>
>- Justisaur

*---

Thanks!

I noticed that sometimes I get a backstab thrust right off the bat,
and then sometimes not at all.

I really screwed up! I sold my only smithing stone by accident. I
thought I was buying one from that merchant in Church of Ellah.

Not I have none, except for one Somber stone, whatever that is for.

And the only tear I have is a crystal tear that I can use in the
Wondrous Physick. I thought it came with some.

I guess I messed that one up too!

-pw

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On Sunday, April 3, 2022 at 7:12:57 PM UTC-7, PW wrote:
> >> Those guys are tough but I finally used my Assasins Approach and as
> >> long as I locked into one at time and kept wailing away with my fast
> >> sword, it worked great. Can I use Assasins approach and then switch
> >> back to my shield? I did that and I had yellow shoes so I think the
> >> answer is yes :-)
> >
> >Yes. I forgot to mention since it's second nature to me, when you
> >backstab, wait a beat then start charging a heavy attack, you'll
> >get one off for quite a bit more damage just as they're coming
> >out of immunity from getting up. Heavier weapons you have
> >to start doing immediately, really light ones like daggers you
> >have to wait a little longer.
> >
> >- Justisaur
> *---
>
> Thanks!
>
> I noticed that sometimes I get a backstab thrust right off the bat,
> and then sometimes not at all.
>
> I really screwed up! I sold my only smithing stone by accident. I
> thought I was buying one from that merchant in Church of Ellah.
>
> Not I have none, except for one Somber stone, whatever that is for.

There's a mine past Stormveil that has a bell bearing you can give
to the two-faced merchant in Roundtable that allows you to buy
them, so it's not a great loss.

I just remembered there's a mine along the north coast of
the Weeping Peninsula too, that one doesn't have any areas
that you can't get out of, and the boss is probably one of
the easiest in the game. There's some semi-nasty semi-
flying mobs in there, but they can mostly be dealt with ranged.

Make sure you pick up Fire Sling in Roundtable, that should
help a lot with the ranged attacks.

I just picked that up on my Samurai turned cleric, and it's
certainly helped a lot. I just lost my runes at the same
two knights that I couldn't get past with my Prophet,
so I'm not sure starting Samurai helped all that much,
though it was feeling much easier previous to that.

> And the only tear I have is a crystal tear that I can use in the
> Wondrous Physick. I thought it came with some.
>
> I guess I messed that one up too!

No, I had that on one of my first character, I couldn't figure out
how to get it to work until I had two. I'm not sure it will work
without two tears. There's a couple you can pick up without
fighting anything at the big tree on the map south of the warp
that leads to Grayrolls.

There's a lot more scattered around. There's more at the big
tree in Weeping Peninsula too, but you have to fight a giant
tree person that's pretty hard until you get the hang of it.
Though it's vulnerable to fire, so once you have Fire
Sling it shouldn't be too bad.

- Justisaur

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 by: PW - Mon, 4 Apr 2022 03:41 UTC

re's a mine past Stormveil that has a bell bearing you can give
>to the two-faced merchant in Roundtable that allows you to buy
>them, so it's not a great loss.
>

I will check and see if Ihave a bell bearing

>I just remembered there's a mine along the north coast of
>the Weeping Peninsula too, that one doesn't have any areas
>that you can't get out of, and the boss is probably one of
>the easiest in the game. There's some semi-nasty semi-
>flying mobs in there, but they can mostly be dealt with ranged.
>
>Make sure you pick up Fire Sling in Roundtable, that should
>help a lot with the ranged attacks.

I couldn't remember which fire one you said was a little dangerous.
Thanks

>
>I just picked that up on my Samurai turned cleric, and it's
>certainly helped a lot. I just lost my runes at the same
>two knights that I couldn't get past with my Prophet,
>so I'm not sure starting Samurai helped all that much,
>though it was feeling much easier previous to that.
>
>> And the only tear I have is a crystal tear that I can use in the
>> Wondrous Physick. I thought it came with some.
>>
>> I guess I messed that one up too!
>
>No, I had that on one of my first character, I couldn't figure out
>how to get it to work until I had two. I'm not sure it will work
>without two tears. There's a couple you can pick up without
>fighting anything at the big tree on the map south of the warp
>that leads to Grayrolls.

Next up!

>
>There's a lot more scattered around. There's more at the big
>tree in Weeping Peninsula too, but you have to fight a giant
>tree person that's pretty hard until you get the hang of it.
>Though it's vulnerable to fire, so once you have Fire
>Sling it shouldn't be too bad.
>
>- Justisaur

Looking forward to that! I will just make sure I spend all or most my
ruiins first before the fight! :-)

-pw

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 by: PW - Mon, 4 Apr 2022 03:55 UTC

I watched part of another "drive by" video on how to get a million
runes in an hour. And one how to build up your character to level a
gazillion.

Not for me. But I would like to grow my Confessor a little quicker!
:-)

-pw

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 by: PW - Mon, 4 Apr 2022 18:05 UTC

Hi Justisaur!

>There's a mine past Stormveil that has a bell bearing you can give
>to the two-faced merchant in Roundtable that allows you to buy
>them, so it's not a great loss.
>

When you and others reference "Stormveil", what do you mean?

The castle with the guards and catapults at the end of the road
through the gate with the guards shooting arrows?

>I just remembered there's a mine along the north coast of
>the Weeping Peninsula too, that one doesn't have any areas
>that you can't get out of, and the boss is probably one of
>the easiest in the game. There's some semi-nasty semi-
>flying mobs in there, but they can mostly be dealt with ranged.
>

What do you mean by "can't get out of"?

>Make sure you pick up Fire Sling in Roundtable, that should
>help a lot with the ranged attacks.
>

I gots money now I saved up instead of leveling up :-)

>I just picked that up on my Samurai turned cleric, and it's
>certainly helped a lot. I just lost my runes at the same
>two knights that I couldn't get past with my Prophet,
>so I'm not sure starting Samurai helped all that much,
>though it was feeling much easier previous to that.
>
>> And the only tear I have is a crystal tear that I can use in the
>> Wondrous Physick. I thought it came with some.
>>
>> I guess I messed that one up too!
>
>No, I had that on one of my first character, I couldn't figure out
>how to get it to work until I had two. I'm not sure it will work
>without two tears. There's a couple you can pick up without
>fighting anything at the big tree on the map south of the warp
>that leads to Grayrolls.
>
>There's a lot more scattered around. There's more at the big
>tree in Weeping Peninsula too, but you have to fight a giant
>tree person that's pretty hard until you get the hang of it.
>Though it's vulnerable to fire, so once you have Fire
>Sling it shouldn't be too bad.
>
*--

I will keep looking for smithing stones!

My Confessor is now *heavy* according to it's stats!

I don't see much of anything that I have, and anything that I need to
store! I do not have much!

He still seems pretty quick when fighting.

I will review your previous post about weight and storing. I am back
to the same old problem about having trouble getting things in and out
of the chest with the keyboard and mouse. I think I hooked up a
controller and figured it out last time.

Thanks!

-pw

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 by: Dimensional Traveler - Mon, 4 Apr 2022 20:11 UTC

On 4/4/2022 11:05 AM, PW wrote:
>
> Hi Justisaur!
>
>> There's a mine past Stormveil that has a bell bearing you can give
>> to the two-faced merchant in Roundtable that allows you to buy
>> them, so it's not a great loss.
>>
>
> When you and others reference "Stormveil", what do you mean?
>
> The castle with the guards and catapults at the end of the road
> through the gate with the guards shooting arrows?
>
>
>> I just remembered there's a mine along the north coast of
>> the Weeping Peninsula too, that one doesn't have any areas
>> that you can't get out of, and the boss is probably one of
>> the easiest in the game. There's some semi-nasty semi-
>> flying mobs in there, but they can mostly be dealt with ranged.
>>
>
>
> What do you mean by "can't get out of"?
>
>> Make sure you pick up Fire Sling in Roundtable, that should
>> help a lot with the ranged attacks.
>>
>
> I gots money now I saved up instead of leveling up :-)
>
>> I just picked that up on my Samurai turned cleric, and it's
>> certainly helped a lot. I just lost my runes at the same
>> two knights that I couldn't get past with my Prophet,
>> so I'm not sure starting Samurai helped all that much,
>> though it was feeling much easier previous to that.
>>
>>> And the only tear I have is a crystal tear that I can use in the
>>> Wondrous Physick. I thought it came with some.
>>>
>>> I guess I messed that one up too!
>>
>> No, I had that on one of my first character, I couldn't figure out
>> how to get it to work until I had two. I'm not sure it will work
>> without two tears. There's a couple you can pick up without
>> fighting anything at the big tree on the map south of the warp
>> that leads to Grayrolls.
>>
>> There's a lot more scattered around. There's more at the big
>> tree in Weeping Peninsula too, but you have to fight a giant
>> tree person that's pretty hard until you get the hang of it.
>> Though it's vulnerable to fire, so once you have Fire
>> Sling it shouldn't be too bad.
>>
> *--
>
> I will keep looking for smithing stones!
>
> My Confessor is now *heavy* according to it's stats!
>
> I don't see much of anything that I have, and anything that I need to
> store! I do not have much!
>
>
> He still seems pretty quick when fighting.
>
> I will review your previous post about weight and storing. I am back
> to the same old problem about having trouble getting things in and out
> of the chest with the keyboard and mouse. I think I hooked up a
> controller and figured it out last time.
>
ESC key to bring up the menu that gives you access.

--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

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 by: Justisaur - Tue, 5 Apr 2022 01:56 UTC

On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 11:05:21 AM UTC-7, PW wrote:
> Hi Justisaur!
> >There's a mine past Stormveil that has a bell bearing you can give
> >to the two-faced merchant in Roundtable that allows you to buy
> >them, so it's not a great loss.
> >
> When you and others reference "Stormveil", what do you mean?

Yes. It just occurred to me, you might be thinking Stormhill
which also has a passage from that first large camp of soldiers
with a troll (naked ugly 12' tall guy with a sword) and ballista
and a bunch of soldiers. If you follow that you get to another
ballista and enter a passage to huge mazelike castle, guarded
by Margit - he has a cutscene and is a pain. I spent more time
on him than any other boss since. That's Stormveil.

I did try the shackle on him with my Samurai, it appears to
only be of use if you have no summons or ashes as it stops
him only for one attack on him, twice, which will likely be
used by the ash for little damage. I suppose when he
kills any summons or ashes it'd be useful to get a breather
for healing and get one charged heavy attack on him, or a
long cast time heavy hitting spell.

> The castle with the guards and catapults at the end of the road
> through the gate with the guards shooting arrows?
> >I just remembered there's a mine along the north coast of
> >the Weeping Peninsula too, that one doesn't have any areas
> >that you can't get out of, and the boss is probably one of
> >the easiest in the game. There's some semi-nasty semi-
> >flying mobs in there, but they can mostly be dealt with ranged.
> >
> What do you mean by "can't get out of"?

The one mine at the north of the lake has a place you can't get out
of until you kill the boss ...well or die and go back to the grace, not
the stake - the stake puts you in the area you can't get out of.

There's a couple more mines in Caelid that are traps. You don't have
to fight the boss, but you can't go back the way you came.

- Justisaur

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I bought the flame sling. I guess I need another memory slot for it
or swap it out?

I want to keep the two originals.

-pw

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On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 9:01:53 PM UTC-7, PW wrote:
> I bought the flame sling. I guess I need another memory slot for it
> or swap it out?

Yes, you can buy a memory stone from the two-faced merchant
there - those give you a slot each one you find.

- Justisaur

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On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 06:34:39 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
<justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 9:01:53 PM UTC-7, PW wrote:
>> I bought the flame sling. I guess I need another memory slot for it
>> or swap it out?
>
>Yes, you can buy a memory stone from the two-faced merchant
>there - those give you a slot each one you find.
>
>- Justisaur

*--

Thanks. But I read that in order to activate them I have to beat the
boss Godrick the Grafted. My Confessor is only level 31 and I don't
think he is ready for it!

https://gamerant.com/elden-ring-memory-stone-locations-where-find/

-pw

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On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 8:33:23 AM UTC-7, PW wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 06:34:39 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
> <just...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 9:01:53 PM UTC-7, PW wrote:
> >> I bought the flame sling. I guess I need another memory slot for it
> >> or swap it out?
> >
> >Yes, you can buy a memory stone from the two-faced merchant
> >there - those give you a slot each one you find.
> >
> >- Justisaur
> *--
>
> Thanks. But I read that in order to activate them I have to beat the
> boss Godrick the Grafted. My Confessor is only level 31 and I don't
> think he is ready for it!

You just buy or find a memory stone and you get the spell slot immediately.
There's another one in the east part of Weeping Peninsula too.

What you have to activate is the Great Rune once you get it. Then you
have to use a rune arc to get the benefit. The Great Rune stuff seems
needlessly complicated to me, I had to look that one up after I couldn't
figure it out by the time I got a second one. It's pretty worth it, as the
Godrick one gives you +5 to all your ability scores until you die. But I
still hoard the arcs even though I've got like 50. You get one every
time you kill a boss, or are called as a summon and help kill one.

You might be thinking of remembrance which comes from rune bearers
like Godrick, which you can turn in for a weapon or spell.

- Justisaur

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Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2022 11:23:34 -0600
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 by: PW - Tue, 5 Apr 2022 17:23 UTC

On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 09:15:14 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
<justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 8:33:23 AM UTC-7, PW wrote:
>> On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 06:34:39 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
>> <just...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 9:01:53 PM UTC-7, PW wrote:
>> >> I bought the flame sling. I guess I need another memory slot for it
>> >> or swap it out?
>> >
>> >Yes, you can buy a memory stone from the two-faced merchant
>> >there - those give you a slot each one you find.
>> >
>> >- Justisaur
>> *--
>>
>> Thanks. But I read that in order to activate them I have to beat the
>> boss Godrick the Grafted. My Confessor is only level 31 and I don't
>> think he is ready for it!
>
>You just buy or find a memory stone and you get the spell slot immediately.
>There's another one in the east part of Weeping Peninsula too.
>
>What you have to activate is the Great Rune once you get it. Then you
>have to use a rune arc to get the benefit. The Great Rune stuff seems
>needlessly complicated to me, I had to look that one up after I couldn't
>figure it out by the time I got a second one. It's pretty worth it, as the
>Godrick one gives you +5 to all your ability scores until you die. But I
>still hoard the arcs even though I've got like 50. You get one every
>time you kill a boss, or are called as a summon and help kill one.
>
>You might be thinking of remembrance which comes from rune bearers
>like Godrick, which you can turn in for a weapon or spell.
>
>- Justisaur

* *--

No, I am just going by wat that web page told me.

Thanks!

I will go to the roundtable first thing when I boot up ER again.
Before I lose my money! :-)

-pw

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