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 by: Ant - Wed, 23 Feb 2022 01:18 UTC

rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> wrote:
> On 2022-02-22 12:38 p.m., Bill wrote:
> > On 2/22/2022 12:20 PM, Mayayana wrote:
> >> "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote
> >
> >>    Given all that, it's hard to see how you could call the current
> >> situation "good enough". Maybe you've never had to work
> >> and your parents bought you a house?
> >>
> >> | I used
> >> | the Internet in the '90s.
> >>
> >>    You would have been 23 in 2000. You may have used the
> >> Internet of the 90s but apparently you missed the spirit of it.
> >> It was a bit like the idea of the Whole Earth Catalog and co-ops.
> >> Sharing for the public good. I started a website myself, with
> >> the free space my ISP provided. I posted things I thought
> >> might be helpful. That was the spirit of it. Everyone offered for
> >> free whatever they had/knew that others might use.
> >
> > Usenet has always been, and continues to be, my favorite part of the
> > Internet. Although I understand it's "not what is used to be", much
> > of it still possesses that spirit--as virtually everyone here probably
> > already knows <duh on me if this is redundant>.

> Usenet is my favourite part too. It uses little data, doesn't have any
> kind of censorship and the posts are usually quite long so there's a
> real conversation going. By contrast, the web forums people go on
> generally have posts which are no longer than a sentence or two.
> Additionally, their grammar is usually poor.

Yep. I'm old school Usenet forever.
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 by: Roger Blake - Wed, 23 Feb 2022 01:24 UTC

On 2022-02-22, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
> Who are you kidding? My 45th birthday is a week from today. I used
> the Internet in the '90s. Why do you think I'm still using Usenet, in
> 2022? You are entitled to have your point of view, but don't imagine
> that I'm some newcomer.

You're still just a kid by my standards. I've been working in the computer
industry as long as you've been alive, and with the internet almost as
long (early 1980s). I've worked with a host of hardware platforms and
operating systems in that time, most of which you have likely never
heard of. Don't worry, being a newbie doesn't last forever if you
stick with it. ;-)

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 by: Andy Burns - Wed, 23 Feb 2022 07:54 UTC

sticks wrote:

> Do we really have to ruin these groups with all this?

Even the vaguely on-topic conversations are killing the groups :-(

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 by: rabidR04CH - Wed, 23 Feb 2022 12:57 UTC

On 2022-02-23 02:54, Andy Burns wrote:
> sticks wrote:
>
>> Do we really have to ruin these groups with all this?
>
> Even the vaguely on-topic conversations are killing the groups :-(

The newsgroup can't always be about complaining about some feature of
Windows 11 and wishing that it would go back to 10, 8.1, 7, Vista, XP,
2000, ME, 98, 95 or 3.1. At some point, comparing the operating system
to others isn't worse than people here going "I'm 85 years old and back
in my day, things were better!" all the time.

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 by: Roger Blake - Wed, 23 Feb 2022 15:18 UTC

On 2022-02-23, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
> Uh, you don't know my background in computers, and you definitely
> don't know about everything else I'm involved with. Your attempt at
> ageism is noted and dismissed. You're not that impressive.

LOL! You have much to learn, grasshopper.

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 by: Bill - Wed, 23 Feb 2022 15:44 UTC

On 2/23/2022 10:27 AM, Joel wrote:
> Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> wrote:
>
>>> Uh, you don't know my background in computers, and you definitely
>>> don't know about everything else I'm involved with. Your attempt at
>>> ageism is noted and dismissed. You're not that impressive.
>>
>> LOL! You have much to learn, grasshopper.
>
>
>
>

Joel, Here's a short problem to give you an opportunity to demonstrate
your computer literacy. What does the following express?

000A 2B 000A 3D 0014

I "triple checked" it to make sure that I didn't make any typos.

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 by: Ken Blake - Wed, 23 Feb 2022 16:16 UTC

On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 01:24:22 -0000 (UTC), Roger Blake
<rogblake@iname.invalid> wrote:

>On 2022-02-22, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Who are you kidding? My 45th birthday is a week from today. I used
>> the Internet in the '90s. Why do you think I'm still using Usenet, in
>> 2022? You are entitled to have your point of view, but don't imagine
>> that I'm some newcomer.
>
>You're still just a kid by my standards. I've been working in the computer
>industry as long as you've been alive, and with the internet almost as
>long (early 1980s). I've worked with a host of hardware platforms and
>operating systems in that time, most of which you have likely never
>heard of. Don't worry, being a newbie doesn't last forever if you
>stick with it. ;-)

You're still just a kid by my standards. I've been working in the
computer industry since 1962 (but I'm retired now). I've worked with a
host of hardware platforms and operating systems in that time, most of
which he probably never heard of.

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On 2/23/2022 10:52 AM, Joel wrote:
> Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote:
>
>> Joel, Here's a short problem to give you an opportunity to demonstrate
>> your computer literacy. What does the following express?
>>
>> 000A 2B 000A 3D 0014
>>
>> I "triple checked" it to make sure that I didn't make any typos.
>
>
> I am not interested in "demonstrating" anything to you. Computers are
> an interest of mine, but my career is something much more elite.
>

It wasn't for me Joel, it was to give you a chance to "show your stuff"
to the guys who challenged you. You were the one who wrote, "Uh, you
don't know my background in computers". But if you can say that, you
might as well back it up. The problem stands.

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On 2/23/2022 11:28 AM, Joel wrote:
> Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote:
>
>>>> Joel, Here's a short problem to give you an opportunity to demonstrate
>>>> your computer literacy. What does the following express?
>>>>
>>>> 000A 2B 000A 3D 0014
>>>>
>>>> I "triple checked" it to make sure that I didn't make any typos.
>>>
>>> I am not interested in "demonstrating" anything to you. Computers are
>>> an interest of mine, but my career is something much more elite.
>>
>> It wasn't for me Joel, it was to give you a chance to "show your stuff"
>> to the guys who challenged you. You were the one who wrote, "Uh, you
>> don't know my background in computers". But if you can say that, you
>> might as well back it up. The problem stands.
>
>
> All I meant is that at one time in my life, I did pursue a career in
> computer programming. And it remains one of my interests, assembling
> and using computers. Your "problem" doesn't give one enough to go on.
>

Ironically, "assembling" is a pretty good hint.

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 by: Ant - Wed, 23 Feb 2022 19:46 UTC

Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 01:24:22 -0000 (UTC), Roger Blake
> <rogblake@iname.invalid> wrote:

> >On 2022-02-22, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Who are you kidding? My 45th birthday is a week from today. I used
> >> the Internet in the '90s. Why do you think I'm still using Usenet, in
> >> 2022? You are entitled to have your point of view, but don't imagine
> >> that I'm some newcomer.
> >
> >You're still just a kid by my standards. I've been working in the computer
> >industry as long as you've been alive, and with the internet almost as
> >long (early 1980s). I've worked with a host of hardware platforms and
> >operating systems in that time, most of which you have likely never
> >heard of. Don't worry, being a newbie doesn't last forever if you
> >stick with it. ;-)

> You're still just a kid by my standards. I've been working in the
> computer industry since 1962 (but I'm retired now). I've worked with a
> host of hardware platforms and operating systems in that time, most of
> which he probably never heard of.

What do you think of modern tech stuff? Lots of the newer stuff aren't
good since they're so buggy and bloated to me. And privacy invasive. :(

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 by: Ken Blake - Wed, 23 Feb 2022 20:07 UTC

On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 13:46:43 -0600, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

>Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 01:24:22 -0000 (UTC), Roger Blake
>> <rogblake@iname.invalid> wrote:
>
>> >On 2022-02-22, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Who are you kidding? My 45th birthday is a week from today. I used
>> >> the Internet in the '90s. Why do you think I'm still using Usenet, in
>> >> 2022? You are entitled to have your point of view, but don't imagine
>> >> that I'm some newcomer.
>> >
>> >You're still just a kid by my standards. I've been working in the computer
>> >industry as long as you've been alive, and with the internet almost as
>> >long (early 1980s). I've worked with a host of hardware platforms and
>> >operating systems in that time, most of which you have likely never
>> >heard of. Don't worry, being a newbie doesn't last forever if you
>> >stick with it. ;-)
>
>> You're still just a kid by my standards. I've been working in the
>> computer industry since 1962 (but I'm retired now). I've worked with a
>> host of hardware platforms and operating systems in that time, most of
>> which he probably never heard of.
>
>What do you think of modern tech stuff?

As far as I'm concerned, there word "modern" in a sentence like that
is meaningless. Regardless of whether they're new or old, some pieces
of software are very good, some are very bad, and most are somewhere
in between.

Each piece of software should be judged on its own merits, without
regard to its age.

>Lots of the newer stuff aren't
>good since they're so buggy and bloated to me. And privacy invasive. :(

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 by: Mayayana - Wed, 23 Feb 2022 21:42 UTC

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote

| >>> 000A 2B 000A 3D 0014

| Your "problem" doesn't give one enough to go on.
|

10 + 10 = 20 Hexadecimal notation.

But I don't blame you. There's nothing more silly
than old people engaging in adolescent taunting of
the young, as though age by itself were some kind
of accomplishment.

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 by: ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ - Wed, 23 Feb 2022 22:23 UTC

Mayayana wrote:
> "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote
>
> | >>> 000A 2B 000A 3D 0014
>
> | Your "problem" doesn't give one enough to go on.
> |
>
> 10 + 10 = 20 Hexadecimal notation.
>
> But I don't blame you. There's nothing more silly
> than old people engaging in adolescent taunting of
> the young, as though age by itself were some kind
> of accomplishment.
>
>
That's the easy route :)
Lump the numbers together as one numerical string(0a2b3d0a14)
Maybe Bill<gdr> is trying to tell Joel his assembled knowledge base goes
back 400+ million years ago when he developed legs from fins during the
Silurian Period of the Paleozoic Era.

--
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 by: sticks - Wed, 23 Feb 2022 22:34 UTC

On 2/23/2022 3:48 PM, Joel wrote:

> I'm not young. In fact, I defy people of any age to outthink me. I
> am a very advanced person.

I think my newsreader is broken. Can anyone verify this was actually
what was posted?
If so, I believe I'll forward the post and nominate it on rec.humor.

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 by: sticks - Thu, 24 Feb 2022 00:09 UTC

On 2/23/2022 4:48 PM, Joel wrote:
> sticks <wolverine.01@charter.net> wrote:
>
>>> I'm not young. In fact, I defy people of any age to outthink me. I
>>> am a very advanced person.
>>
>> I think my newsreader is broken. Can anyone verify this was actually
>> what was posted?
>> If so, I believe I'll forward the post and nominate it on rec.humor.
>
>
> As if you are in a position to judge this? Do you know anything about
> me? I don't know you, nor do I pretend to. You could be a genius,
> for all I know, but your post above doesn't lead me to guess that you
> are.
>

Well that wasn't very helpful. I still don't know if my newsreader is
borked.

As to your pontification on my intelligence, I acknowledge your
superiority to me. The more I learn, it becomes increasingly apparent
to me how little I actually know. In fact, I have learned to limit
speaking about things I do know of so that nobody expects anything from
me. I have much more time now.

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 by: Char Jackson - Thu, 24 Feb 2022 01:26 UTC

On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 16:34:05 -0600, sticks <wolverine.01@charter.net>
wrote:

>On 2/23/2022 3:48 PM, Joel wrote:
>
>> I'm not young. In fact, I defy people of any age to outthink me. I
>> am a very advanced person.
>
>I think my newsreader is broken. Can anyone verify this was actually
>what was posted?
>If so, I believe I'll forward the post and nominate it on rec.humor.

To help put it in context, Joel once claimed to be the reincarnation of
Jesus. Yeah, *that* Jesus.

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 by: ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ - Thu, 24 Feb 2022 02:25 UTC

Char Jackson wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 16:34:05 -0600, sticks <wolverine.01@charter.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2/23/2022 3:48 PM, Joel wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not young. In fact, I defy people of any age to outthink me. I
>>> am a very advanced person.
>>
>> I think my newsreader is broken. Can anyone verify this was actually
>> what was posted?
>> If so, I believe I'll forward the post and nominate it on rec.humor.
>
> To help put it in context, Joel once claimed to be the reincarnation of
> Jesus. Yeah, *that* Jesus.
>
The 'Classics' come to mind.
Shakespeare said something akin to - who knows themselves a braggart, as
time passes, every braggart is known as an ass

Pascale something like - if one wishes others to think well of you, then
don't speak well of your self.

Maybe Roy Buchanan was right, though I doubt he considered 'Him' showing
up in a Windows group.
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deeBQZ8Aklc>

--
....w¡ñ§±¤ñ

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 by: Bill - Thu, 24 Feb 2022 03:30 UTC

On 2/23/2022 5:23 PM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
> Mayayana wrote:
>> "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>> | >>> 000A 2B 000A 3D 0014
>>
>> | Your "problem" doesn't give one enough to go on.
>> |
>>
>> 10 + 10 = 20  Hexadecimal notation.
>>
>>     But I don't blame you. There's nothing more silly
>> than old people engaging in adolescent taunting of
>> the young, as though age by itself were some kind
>> of accomplishment.
>>
>>
> That's the easy route :)
> Lump the numbers together as one numerical string(0a2b3d0a14)
> Maybe Bill<gdr> is trying to tell Joel his assembled knowledge base goes
> back 400+ million years ago when he developed legs from fins during the
> Silurian Period of the Paleozoic Era.
>
>
When I wrote that "assembly" was a hint, I was thinking of what an
assembler or compiler does (i.e. it translates). I figured that anyone
who was at all familiar with binary numbers would recognize the pair of
"tens" and the "twenty" and would simply fill in the blanks from there.
I suspect that is how Mayayana deciphered it. Personally, I don't have
the entire ASCII code memorized, I keep track of the codes for all of
the upper and lower case characters and the digits. ASCII is basically
an 8-bit code. On the other hand, 000A is the hexadecimal
representation for the "Two's Complement" 16 bit binary representation
of the decimal number 10.
When you enter 10 into a text field, then when the value is stored as an
integer, it will be stored using logical bits which are "on" or "off" in
accordance with the 0s and 1s in the string 0000000000001010, which is
(obviously) expressed, for people, more succinctly as 000A using
hexadecimal notation, each 4 bits corresponding to 1 hex digit. Now if
the string is stored in memory than it's address varies between
different types of machines.

Extra Credit: What terms are used to distinguish these different types
of (byte addressable) memory systems? This seemingly innocuous detail
increases in importance in computer networking!

P.S. I don't claim to be an expert. All of the above is just "second
year" stuff, except for my final comment pertaining to networking. I
hope we all had fun with it! : )

P.S.S. I'm not sure one can even decode user privileges in Linux without
being familiar with hexadecimal notation. So, it is relevant there. It
also appears in the Windows registry, for instance.

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 by: ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ - Thu, 24 Feb 2022 04:48 UTC

Joel wrote:
> ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Pascale something like - if one wishes others to think well of you, then
>> don't speak well of your self.
>
>
> As if this fucking Windows group is the core of my online life? ROFL!
> Stay in your lane, pal.
>

Reassuring to know that Jesus was still a multi-tasker.

Solo rompendoti le palle <g>

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 by: ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ - Thu, 24 Feb 2022 05:09 UTC

Bill wrote:
> On 2/23/2022 5:23 PM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
>> Mayayana wrote:
>>> "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>> | >>> 000A 2B 000A 3D 0014
>>>
>>> | Your "problem" doesn't give one enough to go on.
>>> |
>>>
>>> 10 + 10 = 20  Hexadecimal notation.
>>>
>>>     But I don't blame you. There's nothing more silly
>>> than old people engaging in adolescent taunting of
>>> the young, as though age by itself were some kind
>>> of accomplishment.
>>>
>>>
>> That's the easy route :)
>> Lump the numbers together as one numerical string(0a2b3d0a14)
>> Maybe Bill<gdr> is trying to tell Joel his assembled knowledge base
>> goes back 400+ million years ago when he developed legs from fins
>> during the Silurian Period of the Paleozoic Era.
>>
>>
> When I wrote that "assembly" was a hint, I was thinking of what an
> assembler or compiler does (i.e. it translates). I figured that anyone
> who was at all familiar with binary numbers would recognize the pair of
> "tens" and the "twenty" and would simply fill in the blanks from there.
>

The 3D (i.e. =)was also a significant hint for the equation.
It was more fun lumping them all together as a single hex number then
using that number for some OT humorous commentary.

At this stage of the thread, asking anyone to decipher hex or something
for extra credit starts to approach the doltish side of things.

Feel free to quiz the others.

--
....w¡ñ§±¤ñ

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 by: Bill - Thu, 24 Feb 2022 05:24 UTC

On 2/24/2022 12:09 AM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
> Bill wrote:
>> On 2/23/2022 5:23 PM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
>>> Mayayana wrote:
>>>> "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>> | >>> 000A 2B 000A 3D 0014
>>>>
>>>> | Your "problem" doesn't give one enough to go on.
>>>> |
>>>>
>>>> 10 + 10 = 20  Hexadecimal notation.
>>>>
>>>>     But I don't blame you. There's nothing more silly
>>>> than old people engaging in adolescent taunting of
>>>> the young, as though age by itself were some kind
>>>> of accomplishment.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> That's the easy route :)
>>> Lump the numbers together as one numerical string(0a2b3d0a14)
>>> Maybe Bill<gdr> is trying to tell Joel his assembled knowledge base
>>> goes back 400+ million years ago when he developed legs from fins
>>> during the Silurian Period of the Paleozoic Era.
>>>
>>>
>> When I wrote that "assembly" was a hint, I was thinking of what an
>> assembler or compiler does (i.e. it translates). I figured that anyone
>> who was at all familiar with binary numbers would recognize the pair
>> of "tens" and the "twenty" and would simply fill in the blanks from
>> there.
>>
>
> The 3D (i.e. =)was also a significant hint for the equation.
> It was more fun lumping them all together as a single hex number then
> using that number for some OT humorous commentary.
>
> At this stage of the thread, asking anyone to decipher hex or something
> for extra credit starts to approach the doltish side of things.

You didn't read the question carefully. But don't take the "extra
credit" label too seriously, I think a lot of people have a fond
remembrance of their school days. I tried to be informative for the sake
of anyone not already initiated. The answer to the question is
"big-endian" and "little-endian". There ya go, there is no longer a
problem for you or anyone else to worry about... I'm apologize if I made
you feel anything like a dolt. It was not my intent to offend.

>
> Feel free to quiz the others.

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 by: ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ - Thu, 24 Feb 2022 06:41 UTC

Bill wrote:
> On 2/24/2022 12:09 AM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
>> Bill wrote:
>>> On 2/23/2022 5:23 PM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
>>>> Mayayana wrote:
>>>>> "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>> | >>> 000A 2B 000A 3D 0014
>>>>>
>>>>> | Your "problem" doesn't give one enough to go on.
>>>>> |
>>>>>
>>>>> 10 + 10 = 20  Hexadecimal notation.
>>>>>
>>>>>     But I don't blame you. There's nothing more silly
>>>>> than old people engaging in adolescent taunting of
>>>>> the young, as though age by itself were some kind
>>>>> of accomplishment.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> That's the easy route :)
>>>> Lump the numbers together as one numerical string(0a2b3d0a14)
>>>> Maybe Bill<gdr> is trying to tell Joel his assembled knowledge base
>>>> goes back 400+ million years ago when he developed legs from fins
>>>> during the Silurian Period of the Paleozoic Era.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> When I wrote that "assembly" was a hint, I was thinking of what an
>>> assembler or compiler does (i.e. it translates). I figured that
>>> anyone who was at all familiar with binary numbers would recognize
>>> the pair of "tens" and the "twenty" and would simply fill in the
>>> blanks from there.
>>>
>>
>> The 3D (i.e. =)was also a significant hint for the equation.
>> It was more fun lumping them all together as a single hex number then
>> using that number for some OT humorous commentary.
>>
>> At this stage of the thread, asking anyone to decipher hex or
>> something for extra credit starts to approach the doltish side of things.
>
> You didn't read the question carefully. But don't take the "extra
> credit" label too seriously, I think a lot of people have a fond
> remembrance of their school days. I tried to be informative for the sake
> of anyone not already initiated.  The answer to the question is
> "big-endian" and "little-endian".  There ya go, there is no longer a
> problem for you or anyone else to worry about... I'm apologize if I made
> you feel anything like a dolt. It was not my intent to offend.
>
>
>>
>> Feel free to quiz the others.
>
>
>
No dolts..just a subtle commentary that its really OT and quite useless
for group participation.

As far as remembrance of those school days - carrying a stack of punch
cards to the campus computing center was always a good barometer of when
it was going to rain.

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msft mvp 2007-2021

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 by: Mayayana - Thu, 24 Feb 2022 13:58 UTC

"Bill" <nonegiven@att.net> wrote

| I suspect that is how Mayayana deciphered it. Personally, I don't have
| the entire ASCII code memorized, I keep track of the codes for all of
| the upper and lower case characters and the digits.

ASCIIcat. I've had a copy for many years and keep a shortcut
in Quick Launch to the HLP file. It's by R. E. Harvey. Has a reference
for ANSI character codes, country codes, weights and measures.
Very simple and very useful. But I wasn't able to find a download
online currently.

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On 2/24/2022 1:41 AM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
> Bill wrote:
>> On 2/24/2022 12:09 AM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
>>> Bill wrote:
>>>> On 2/23/2022 5:23 PM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
>>>>> Mayayana wrote:
>>>>>> "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>> | >>> 000A 2B 000A 3D 0014
>>>>>>
>>>>>> | Your "problem" doesn't give one enough to go on.
>>>>>> |
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 10 + 10 = 20  Hexadecimal notation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     But I don't blame you. There's nothing more silly
>>>>>> than old people engaging in adolescent taunting of
>>>>>> the young, as though age by itself were some kind
>>>>>> of accomplishment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> That's the easy route :)
>>>>> Lump the numbers together as one numerical string(0a2b3d0a14)
>>>>> Maybe Bill<gdr> is trying to tell Joel his assembled knowledge base
>>>>> goes back 400+ million years ago when he developed legs from fins
>>>>> during the Silurian Period of the Paleozoic Era.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> When I wrote that "assembly" was a hint, I was thinking of what an
>>>> assembler or compiler does (i.e. it translates). I figured that
>>>> anyone who was at all familiar with binary numbers would recognize
>>>> the pair of "tens" and the "twenty" and would simply fill in the
>>>> blanks from there.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The 3D (i.e. =)was also a significant hint for the equation.
>>> It was more fun lumping them all together as a single hex number then
>>> using that number for some OT humorous commentary.
>>>
>>> At this stage of the thread, asking anyone to decipher hex or
>>> something for extra credit starts to approach the doltish side of
>>> things.
>>
>> You didn't read the question carefully. But don't take the "extra
>> credit" label too seriously, I think a lot of people have a fond
>> remembrance of their school days. I tried to be informative for the
>> sake of anyone not already initiated.  The answer to the question is
>> "big-endian" and "little-endian".  There ya go, there is no longer a
>> problem for you or anyone else to worry about... I'm apologize if I
>> made you feel anything like a dolt. It was not my intent to offend.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Feel free to quiz the others.
>>
>>
>>
> No dolts..just a subtle commentary that its really OT and quite useless
> for group participation.
>
> As far as remembrance of those school days - carrying a stack of punch
> cards to the campus computing center was always a good barometer of when
> it was going to rain.
>

Yes, I remember trudging there quite regularly, even in deep snow!
I look back at at all of that fondly.
I took it upon myself to learn "xedit" rather than to use the card
reader--the dumb terminals were in the same room, and that's what the
more senior students were using.

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On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 20:33:23 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:
>
>>To help put it in context, Joel once claimed to be the reincarnation of
>>Jesus. Yeah, *that* Jesus.
>
>
>If you don't know about my identity, it says far more about you than
>it does about me. But said identity doesn't have that much to do with
>my advanced mind, which I achieved by hard work. I enjoy discussing
>computer operating systems, but I have much higher pursuits in life.

I don't know anything about your "advanced mind," but I sure know
about your braggadocio.

If your "advanced mind" doesn't know what "braggadocio" means, look it
up.

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