On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 13:17:16 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

>On 11/14/2023 12:06 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 5:42:39 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>>> On 11/13/2023 4:32 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>> When I get a drink out of the fridge, it's already cold. Apparently,
>>>> Americans want it colder. I can't believe all the ice making angst
>>>> lately in RFC.
>>> I never make/have ice unless daughter is coming for a visit.
>>
>> My daughter bought an ice mold that makes large spheres of ice. As a boomer, I'm fully vested in not understanding the concept.
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/glacio-Large-Sphere-Mold-Tray/dp/B07GXB7BYB
>
>
>It is good if you are sipping a good bourbon. Cools, but with less
>dilution that a bunch of cubes. I have a similar contraption and I heat
>the water first, then the ball is clear and melts even slower.

We used to have those in the 60s. I remember my mother saying "If they
ever leak, don't drink that water. It's filthy water from Hong Kong!"

On 2023-11-14, Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
> On 11/13/2023 4:57 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2023-11-13 3:22 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 9:41:52 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> Americans are used to having as much ice as they can get their
>>> greedy, pudgy. fingers on. When we were in the UK, it was a fight to
>>> get a few more cubes of ice in a glass.
>>
>> It does seem to be an American thing. I know more people who complain
>> about having too much ice than too little. Most of the time I rarely
>> bother with ice in water. Straight out of the tap is fine for me.
>> Restaurants tend to load up soft drinks with ice because it is cheaper
>> than the the drink, be it a soft drink or a mixed drink.
>
> I rarely use ice. Sometimes at home, but if at a restaurant, I ask for
> "light" or "no" ice. If I'm paying for a drink, I'm not going to pay to
> have it padded out with ice.

I drink water in restaurants, same as at home.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On 2023-11-14, S Viemeister <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
> On 14/11/2023 16:17, Michael Trew wrote:
>> On 11/13/2023 6:35 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 11/13/2023 9:58 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I always figure that optional gizmos are likely to fail at some point
>>>> so I never got an ice maker.  I have never seen much need for an ice
>>>> maker when I can just fill up some ice cube trays and stick them into
>>>> the freezer.
>>>
>>> LOL You sound like Sheldon! He was always going off about ice makers.
>>> First thing to break! Al you need is ice cube trays!
>>
>> Sheldon was correct.  Your exception aside, most ice makers are the most
>> faulty part of a refrigerator.  It's amazing how much extra electricity
>> an ice maker uses, also.  Some models report twice the energy
>> consumption (for the entire fridge) due to the ice maker.
>
> Our first refrigerator, in our first apartment, came with an ice maker.
> We never bothered to connect it.

I was so happy when we got our first icemaker. No more fiddling with
half-a-dozen ice cube trays, slopping water around, etc.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On 2023-11-14 1:13 p.m., Graham wrote:
> On 2023-11-14 9:48 a.m., S Viemeister wrote:

>> Our first refrigerator, in our first apartment, came with an ice
>> maker. We never bothered to connect it.
>
> Many years ago, an architect friend was designing the cafeteria at a new
> university. He told me that the profit margin on Coke was close to 1000%.
> That was based on the syrup cost and the amount of water needed to make
> it up.

There is big money to be made in the sale of soft drinks. You can
understand why they usually have exclusive contracts. You'd be hard
pressed to find a place that offered Coke and Pepsi. I don't know about
the equipment, whether it is bought or leased and who is responsible for
maintenance. They also have to buy the CO2 to aerate the product. There
are a lot of other costs, like the rent, labour, insurance, cups, ice
etc, but there is still that enormous markup that very few products can
get away with. Then there is bottled water.

On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 19:22:19 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
<hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

>On 2023-11-14, S Viemeister <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
>> On 14/11/2023 16:17, Michael Trew wrote:
>>> On 11/13/2023 6:35 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 11/13/2023 9:58 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I always figure that optional gizmos are likely to fail at some point
>>>>> so I never got an ice maker.  I have never seen much need for an ice
>>>>> maker when I can just fill up some ice cube trays and stick them into
>>>>> the freezer.
>>>>
>>>> LOL You sound like Sheldon! He was always going off about ice makers.
>>>> First thing to break! Al you need is ice cube trays!
>>>
>>> Sheldon was correct.  Your exception aside, most ice makers are the most
>>> faulty part of a refrigerator.  It's amazing how much extra electricity
>>> an ice maker uses, also.  Some models report twice the energy
>>> consumption (for the entire fridge) due to the ice maker.
>>
>> Our first refrigerator, in our first apartment, came with an ice maker.
>> We never bothered to connect it.
>
>I was so happy when we got our first icemaker. No more fiddling with
>half-a-dozen ice cube trays, slopping water around, etc.

"Slopping water around"... I'm starting to wonder how much ice these
people are consuming. Keep them away from the North Pole. It's already
shrinking!

On 2023-11-14 12:22 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2023-11-14, S Viemeister <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
>> On 14/11/2023 16:17, Michael Trew wrote:
>>> On 11/13/2023 6:35 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 11/13/2023 9:58 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I always figure that optional gizmos are likely to fail at some point
>>>>> so I never got an ice maker.  I have never seen much need for an ice
>>>>> maker when I can just fill up some ice cube trays and stick them into
>>>>> the freezer.
>>>>
>>>> LOL You sound like Sheldon! He was always going off about ice makers.
>>>> First thing to break! Al you need is ice cube trays!
>>>
>>> Sheldon was correct.  Your exception aside, most ice makers are the most
>>> faulty part of a refrigerator.  It's amazing how much extra electricity
>>> an ice maker uses, also.  Some models report twice the energy
>>> consumption (for the entire fridge) due to the ice maker.
>>
>> Our first refrigerator, in our first apartment, came with an ice maker.
>> We never bothered to connect it.
>
> I was so happy when we got our first icemaker. No more fiddling with
> half-a-dozen ice cube trays, slopping water around, etc.
>
I last used a couple of ice cubes to provide steam inside a dutch oven
when baking sourdough using Lahey'/NYT method. It was to see if I could
get the shine on the crust that commercial bakeries achieve. It didn't
work.
Before that I dumped a trayful into the gaburator to clean it.
No need for an ice maker in this house.

On 2023-11-14 1:17 p.m., Ed P wrote:
> On 11/14/2023 12:06 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 5:42:39 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:

>> My daughter bought an ice mold that makes large spheres of ice. As a
>> boomer, I'm fully vested in not understanding the concept.
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/glacio-Large-Sphere-Mold-Tray/dp/B07GXB7BYB
>
>
> It is good if you are sipping a good bourbon.  Cools, but with less
> dilution that a bunch of cubes.  I have a similar contraption and I heat
> the water first, then the ball is clear and melts even slower.

Diluting the whiskey can be a good thing. I always remember the advice
given to Mary Richards by Lou Grant when he tells her how to drink
scotch. You get a nice glass and a nice bottle of Scotch. You put a few
ice cubes in a glass and pour in a good shot of whiskey. Swirl it around
a bit and take a sip. After a while you swirl it some more and take
another sip. Then when the the ice has melted the right amount you knock
it back. Then pour yourself another drink.

On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 7:11:28 AM UTC-10, GM wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 11:06:11 AM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 5:42:39 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> > > On 11/13/2023 4:32 PM, Bruce wrote:
> > > > When I get a drink out of the fridge, it's already cold. Apparently,
> > > > Americans want it colder. I can't believe all the ice making angst
> > > > lately in RFC.
> > > I never make/have ice unless daughter is coming for a visit.
> > My daughter bought an ice mold that makes large spheres of ice. As a boomer, I'm fully vested in not understanding the concept.
> >
> > https://www.amazon.com/glacio-Large-Sphere-Mold-Tray/dp/B07GXB7BYB
> Japan fact of the day
>
> marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2023/11/japan-fact-of-the-day-
>
> by Tyler Cowen November 14, 2023 at 3:19 am in Travel
>
> "People make a lot of the fact that Americans don’t travel a lot (43% have passports) but I’m not sure people realise how massive that is compared to Japan, where only 21.7m people now have passports, not even a fifth of the country.
>
> My initial reaction was surprise too - the Japanese tourists are still there if you know where to look. I went to Harvard in the late 2000's and every day several busloads of Japanese tourists arrived to walk and photograph all the major campus landmarks.
>
> They all had very nice cameras and took pictures of everything. On nice days I would eat lunch outside near something they liked taking pictures of and chuckle to myself at the idea that I was part of some Japanese guy's photo album.
>
> Then somebody explained it to me: in fact, the reason Japanese tourists are so conspicuous and take photos of everything is because Japanese travel so rarely that when they do, they make a big deal out of it. My guess is that it also helps that Japan is home to the world's best camera companies..."
>
> --
> GM

Japan artist of the day: the exquisite Shiina Ringo. In 1999 she produced her first rock CD when she was 20. Throughout the years she has evolved. Along the way, she has changed the sound of contemporary Japanese music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nhS9bqqgv0

On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 11:52:36 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
<bruce2bowser@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 2:33:38 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 19:22:19 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
>> <hami...@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On 2023-11-14, S Viemeister <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
>> >> On 14/11/2023 16:17, Michael Trew wrote:
>> >>> On 11/13/2023 6:35 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> >>>> On 11/13/2023 9:58 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I always figure that optional gizmos are likely to fail at some point
>> >>>>> so I never got an ice maker. I have never seen much need for an ice
>> >>>>> maker when I can just fill up some ice cube trays and stick them into
>> >>>>> the freezer.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> LOL You sound like Sheldon! He was always going off about ice makers.
>> >>>> First thing to break! Al you need is ice cube trays!
>> >>>
>> >>> Sheldon was correct. Your exception aside, most ice makers are the most
>> >>> faulty part of a refrigerator. It's amazing how much extra electricity
>> >>> an ice maker uses, also. Some models report twice the energy
>> >>> consumption (for the entire fridge) due to the ice maker.
>> >>
>> >> Our first refrigerator, in our first apartment, came with an ice maker.
>> >> We never bothered to connect it.
>> >
>> >I was so happy when we got our first icemaker. No more fiddling with
>> >half-a-dozen ice cube trays, slopping water around, etc.
>>
>> "Slopping water around"
>
>Right. After a night of drinking, down 10 or more ounces of water. You have to wash all that crap down with a lot of water, fruits and veggies rather than let it collect and collect ... causing more and more health problems.
>
Dehydration doesn't collect.

On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 11:58:00 -0800 (PST), dsi1
<dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

>On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 7:11:28 AM UTC-10, GM wrote:
>> On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 11:06:11 AM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 5:42:39 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>> > > On 11/13/2023 4:32 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> > > > When I get a drink out of the fridge, it's already cold. Apparently,
>> > > > Americans want it colder. I can't believe all the ice making angst
>> > > > lately in RFC.
>> > > I never make/have ice unless daughter is coming for a visit.
>> > My daughter bought an ice mold that makes large spheres of ice. As a boomer, I'm fully vested in not understanding the concept.
>> >
>> > https://www.amazon.com/glacio-Large-Sphere-Mold-Tray/dp/B07GXB7BYB
>> Japan fact of the day
>>
>> marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2023/11/japan-fact-of-the-day-
>>
>> by Tyler Cowen November 14, 2023 at 3:19 am in Travel
>>
>> "People make a lot of the fact that Americans don’t travel a lot (43% have passports) but I’m not sure people realise how massive that is compared to Japan, where only 21.7m people now have passports, not even a fifth of the country.
>>
>> My initial reaction was surprise too - the Japanese tourists are still there if you know where to look. I went to Harvard in the late 2000's and every day several busloads of Japanese tourists arrived to walk and photograph all the major campus landmarks.
>>
>> They all had very nice cameras and took pictures of everything. On nice days I would eat lunch outside near something they liked taking pictures of and chuckle to myself at the idea that I was part of some Japanese guy's photo album.
>>
>> Then somebody explained it to me: in fact, the reason Japanese tourists are so conspicuous and take photos of everything is because Japanese travel so rarely that when they do, they make a big deal out of it. My guess is that it also helps that Japan is home to the world's best camera companies..."
>>
>> --
>> GM
>
>Japan artist of the day: the exquisite Shiina Ringo. In 1999 she produced her first rock CD when she was 20. Throughout the years she has evolved. Along the way, she has changed the sound of contemporary Japanese music.
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nhS9bqqgv0

Interesting, I'm listening to her in 2000:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU6VwukxXSc>

On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 09:06:06 -0800 (PST)
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

> On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 5:42:39 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> > On 11/13/2023 4:32 PM, Bruce wrote:
> > > When I get a drink out of the fridge, it's already cold. Apparently,
> > > Americans want it colder. I can't believe all the ice making angst
> > > lately in RFC.
> > I never make/have ice unless daughter is coming for a visit.
>
> My daughter bought an ice mold that makes large spheres of ice. As a boomer, I'm fully vested in not understanding the concept.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/glacio-Large-Sphere-Mold-Tray/dp/B07GXB7BYB

It's for craft drinks - straight whiskey over a single rock.

_________
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( || )
|`-..._______,..-'|
| || |
| _______|| |
|,-'''_ _ ~ ||`-.|
| ~ / `-.\ ,-'\ ~|
|`-...___/___,..-'|
| `-./-'_ \/_| |
| -' ~~ || -.|
( ~ ~ ~~ )
`-..._______,..-'

They get giddy over lil' iceberg chunks too.

On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 06:33:20 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Keep them away from the North Pole. It's already
> shrinking!

No, it's not "shrinking" clownshow, it's on the move...to...SIBERIA!

-. .
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,' ,' ', ',
,' ,' | |
\ \ | |
\ /^\ \ ,' ,'
\ \ ,' ,'
/ ~-.___\.-' ,'
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On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 11:58:00 -0800 (PST)
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

> On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 7:11:28 AM UTC-10, GM wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 11:06:11 AM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 5:42:39 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> > > > On 11/13/2023 4:32 PM, Bruce wrote:
> > > > > When I get a drink out of the fridge, it's already cold. Apparently,
> > > > > Americans want it colder. I can't believe all the ice making angst
> > > > > lately in RFC.
> > > > I never make/have ice unless daughter is coming for a visit.
> > > My daughter bought an ice mold that makes large spheres of ice. As a boomer, I'm fully vested in not understanding the concept.
> > >
> > > https://www.amazon.com/glacio-Large-Sphere-Mold-Tray/dp/B07GXB7BYB
> > Japan fact of the day
> >
> > marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2023/11/japan-fact-of-the-day-
> >
> > by Tyler Cowen November 14, 2023 at 3:19 am in Travel
> >
> > "People make a lot of the fact that Americans don’t travel a lot (43% have passports) but I’m not sure people realise how massive that is compared to Japan, where only 21.7m people now have passports, not even a fifth of the country.
> >
> > My initial reaction was surprise too - the Japanese tourists are still there if you know where to look. I went to Harvard in the late 2000's and every day several busloads of Japanese tourists arrived to walk and photograph all the major campus landmarks.
> >
> > They all had very nice cameras and took pictures of everything. On nice days I would eat lunch outside near something they liked taking pictures of and chuckle to myself at the idea that I was part of some Japanese guy's photo album.
> >
> > Then somebody explained it to me: in fact, the reason Japanese tourists are so conspicuous and take photos of everything is because Japanese travel so rarely that when they do, they make a big deal out of it. My guess is that it also helps that Japan is home to the world's best camera companies..."
> >
> > --
> > GM
>
> Japan artist of the day: the exquisite Shiina Ringo. In 1999 she produced her first rock CD when she was 20. Throughout the years she has evolved. Along the way, she has changed the sound of contemporary Japanese music.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nhS9bqqgv0

https://youtu.be/NIX8Nu0DbSw

!!!

On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 11:10:49 AM UTC-10, deltahorse wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 09:06:06 -0800 (PST)
> dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 5:42:39 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> > > On 11/13/2023 4:32 PM, Bruce wrote:
> > > > When I get a drink out of the fridge, it's already cold. Apparently,
> > > > Americans want it colder. I can't believe all the ice making angst
> > > > lately in RFC.
> > > I never make/have ice unless daughter is coming for a visit.
> >
> > My daughter bought an ice mold that makes large spheres of ice. As a boomer, I'm fully vested in not understanding the concept.
> >
> > https://www.amazon.com/glacio-Large-Sphere-Mold-Tray/dp/B07GXB7BYB
> It's for craft drinks - straight whiskey over a single rock.
>
>
>
> _________
> ,-''' ||`-.
> ( || )
> |`-..._______,..-'|
> | || |
> | _______|| |
> |,-'''_ _ ~ ||`-.|
> | ~ / `-.\ ,-'\ ~|
> |`-...___/___,..-'|
> | `-./-'_ \/_| |
> | -' ~~ || -.|
> ( ~ ~ ~~ )
> `-..._______,..-'
>
> They get giddy over lil' iceberg chunks too.

Drinkers can insist that only one ice cube is allowed - technically.

On 11/14/2023 10:23 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 11/13/2023 6:52 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 11/13/2023 3:40 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
>>> On 11/12/2023 4:33 PM, Ed P wrote:
>>>> This is a terrible tragedy and I'm sure I'll get a lot of sympathy.
>>>>
>>>> I'm on Day 2 of a broken ice maker in the refrigerator. Not jammed,
>>>> just
>>>> no ice. The appliance guy does not think he can get here until
>>>> Thursday.
>>>>
>>>> It is living like my ancestors did in Poland in the 1860s.
>>>
>>> I should have left you with one of my aluminum 50's ice cube trays
>>> with the pull-up handles.  Grandma couldn't wait to get rid of those
>>> when grandpa passed away in 2009.  Being a "normal" 14 year old, I
>>> saved them.  Well, they come in handy sometimes!
>>
>> *One* metal ice cube tray?! I remember those things. Mom had them
>> stacked in the top freezer. Best to run the base under water so the ice
>> cubes release easily. I would not go back to using those things if you
>> paid me.
>
> I own three of them, and while I don't use a lot of ice, those metal
> trays are used.  No flimsy plastic here for me.  You'd lose your mind if
> we switched houses.  I more or less have a living museum here.

Oh, I realize that, Michael. I'm not going to back to having to
manually defrost the freezer (got an electric hair dryer?) nor using ice
metal crank cube trays. BTDT, it was not a joyful experience.

Jill

On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 17:29:39 -0500, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On 11/14/2023 10:23 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
>> On 11/13/2023 6:52 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 11/13/2023 3:40 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
>>>> On 11/12/2023 4:33 PM, Ed P wrote:
>>>>> This is a terrible tragedy and I'm sure I'll get a lot of sympathy.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm on Day 2 of a broken ice maker in the refrigerator. Not jammed,
>>>>> just
>>>>> no ice. The appliance guy does not think he can get here until
>>>>> Thursday.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is living like my ancestors did in Poland in the 1860s.
>>>>
>>>> I should have left you with one of my aluminum 50's ice cube trays
>>>> with the pull-up handles.  Grandma couldn't wait to get rid of those
>>>> when grandpa passed away in 2009.  Being a "normal" 14 year old, I
>>>> saved them.  Well, they come in handy sometimes!
>>>
>>> *One* metal ice cube tray?! I remember those things. Mom had them
>>> stacked in the top freezer. Best to run the base under water so the ice
>>> cubes release easily. I would not go back to using those things if you
>>> paid me.
>>
>> I own three of them, and while I don't use a lot of ice, those metal
>> trays are used.  No flimsy plastic here for me.  You'd lose your mind if
>> we switched houses.  I more or less have a living museum here.
>
>Oh, I realize that, Michael. I'm not going to back to having to
>manually defrost the freezer (got an electric hair dryer?) nor using ice
>metal crank cube trays. BTDT, it was not a joyful experience.

I've read that metal crank cube trays can cause severe cases of PTSD!

On 2023-11-14, dsi1 wrote:

> My daughter bought an ice mold that makes large
> spheres of ice. As a boomer, I'm fully vested in
> not understanding the concept.

> https://www.amazon.com/glacio-Large-Sphere-Mold-Tray/dp/B07GXB7BYB

I thought you were the expert with crystal balls.

Mike Duffy wrote:
> On 2023-11-14, dsi1 wrote:
>
>> My daughter bought an ice mold that makes large
>> spheres of ice. As a boomer, I'm fully vested in
>> not understanding the concept.
>
>> https://www.amazon.com/glacio-Large-Sphere-Mold-Tray/dp/B07GXB7BYB
>
> I thought you were the expert with crystal balls.
>

Well, he sure knows lots of shit about da future.

bruce bowser wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 1:24:23 PM UTC-8, deltahorse wrote:
>> On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 06:33:20 +1100
>> Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Keep them away from the North Pole. It's already
>>> shrinking!
>> No, it's not "shrinking" clownshow, it's on the move...to...SIBERIA!
> Stop looking in the mirror, then you'll stop saying 'clownshow'.
>

But then his posts will start coming from 1991.

On 2023-11-14 6:41 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
> On 2023-11-14, dsi1 wrote:
>
>> My daughter bought an ice mold that makes large
>> spheres of ice. As a boomer, I'm fully vested in
>> not understanding the concept.
>
>> https://www.amazon.com/glacio-Large-Sphere-Mold-Tray/dp/B07GXB7BYB
>
> I thought you were the expert with crystal balls.
>
dsai1 has balls made of crystal?

On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 13:49:00 -0800 (PST)
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

> On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 11:10:49 AM UTC-10, deltahorse wrote:
> > On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 09:06:06 -0800 (PST)
> > dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
> >
> > > On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 5:42:39 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> > > > On 11/13/2023 4:32 PM, Bruce wrote:
> > > > > When I get a drink out of the fridge, it's already cold. Apparently,
> > > > > Americans want it colder. I can't believe all the ice making angst
> > > > > lately in RFC.
> > > > I never make/have ice unless daughter is coming for a visit.
> > >
> > > My daughter bought an ice mold that makes large spheres of ice. As a boomer, I'm fully vested in not understanding the concept.
> > >
> > > https://www.amazon.com/glacio-Large-Sphere-Mold-Tray/dp/B07GXB7BYB
> > It's for craft drinks - straight whiskey over a single rock.
> >
> >
> >
> > _________
> > ,-''' ||`-.
> > ( || )
> > |`-..._______,..-'|
> > | || |
> > | _______|| |
> > |,-'''_ _ ~ ||`-.|
> > | ~ / `-.\ ,-'\ ~|
> > |`-...___/___,..-'|
> > | `-./-'_ \/_| |
> > | -' ~~ || -.|
> > ( ~ ~ ~~ )
> > `-..._______,..-'
> >
> > They get giddy over lil' iceberg chunks too.
>
> Drinkers can insist that only one ice cube is allowed - technically.

Hokay, no skin off my iceberg, lol...

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On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 15:53:01 -0800 (PST)
bruce bowser <bruce2bowser@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 1:24:23 PM UTC-8, deltahorse wrote:
> > On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 06:33:20 +1100
> > Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > Keep them away from the North Pole. It's already
> > > shrinking!
> > No, it's not "shrinking" clownshow, it's on the move...to...SIBERIA!
> Stop looking in the mirror, then you'll stop saying 'clownshow'.

Lame, clownshow.

On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 19:06:42 -0500
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> On 2023-11-14 6:41 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
> > On 2023-11-14, dsi1 wrote:
> >
> >> My daughter bought an ice mold that makes large
> >> spheres of ice. As a boomer, I'm fully vested in
> >> not understanding the concept.
> >
> >> https://www.amazon.com/glacio-Large-Sphere-Mold-Tray/dp/B07GXB7BYB
> >
> > I thought you were the expert with crystal balls.
> >
> dsai1 has balls made of crystal?
>
Look awesome next to his black beauty, no?

On 11/14/2023 2:19 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2023-11-14, Michael Trew<michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
>> On 11/13/2023 4:57 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2023-11-13 3:22 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 9:41:52 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Americans are used to having as much ice as they can get their
>>>> greedy, pudgy. fingers on. When we were in the UK, it was a fight to
>>>> get a few more cubes of ice in a glass.
>>>
>>> It does seem to be an American thing. I know more people who complain
>>> about having too much ice than too little. Most of the time I rarely
>>> bother with ice in water. Straight out of the tap is fine for me.
>>> Restaurants tend to load up soft drinks with ice because it is cheaper
>>> than the the drink, be it a soft drink or a mixed drink.
>>
>> I rarely use ice. Sometimes at home, but if at a restaurant, I ask for
>> "light" or "no" ice. If I'm paying for a drink, I'm not going to pay to
>> have it padded out with ice.
>
> I drink water in restaurants, same as at home.

Me too, but occasionally I ask for a glass of iced tea or a cup of
coffee, depending.

On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 15:12:26 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> You must not use very much ice. We go through the entire output
> of the ice maker plus and 8-pound bag of ice every week.

I supplement the output with ice trays. That takes up less space
and money than buying 8lbs bags of ice.

-sw