On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 11:17:04 -0500, Michael Trew wrote:

> Sheldon was correct. Your exception aside, most ice makers are the most
> faulty part of a refrigerator. It's amazing how much extra electricity
> an ice maker uses, also. Some models report twice the energy
> consumption (for the entire fridge) due to the ice maker.

That doesn't right at all for the average in-freezer ice maker.
At most 1.5% for my Samsung. There is no separate condensor or
heating element for the ice. It turns on once every 90 minutes to
check the level of ice in the bucket (an arm swings down and back
up) and the motor that ruins the twisting motion of the ice tray
for release (5 seconds). Also the pump for the water to refill
the tray (3 seconds). The freezer would be the same temp with or
without ice maker capability.

Energy consumption is NOT an issue for an in-freezer ice maker.
The convenience is worth 10X the actual energy consumption.

-sw

On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 01:31:46 -0600, Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.compost>
wrote:

>That doesn't right at all for the average in-freezer ice maker.
>At most 1.5% for my Samsung. There is no separate condensor or
>heating element for the ice. It turns on once every 90 minutes to
>check the level of ice in the bucket (an arm swings down and back
>up) and the motor that ruins the twisting motion of the ice tray
>for release (5 seconds). Also the pump for the water to refill
>the tray (3 seconds). The freezer would be the same temp with or
>without ice maker capability.
>
>Energy consumption is NOT an issue for an in-freezer ice maker.
>The convenience is worth 10X the actual energy consumption.

And the American ice maker drama continues. Who would have known?

On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 23:32:41 -0600, Sqwertz wrote:

> OK, so water stream is up to par and pissing fine. We'll find that
> test button. Is there a manually accessible ice bucket? Is there
> ice in it? What's the model number? We'll run the diagnostic
> mode. It may sound like there's a FedEx truck backing up in your
> kitchen for 15 minutes while that runs (mine beeps obnoxiously
> loud) but its saved me hundreds of dollars. And when that didn't
> work, I arbitrated a win.
>
> I've fixed my ice maker 5 times now. And I just ordered the
> thermoplastic beads from TEMU today to finally help me fix that
> ice sensor arm (I made the last one out of Crazy Straws(tm) but it
> didn't last but 4 months).
>
> Model number begins with RF...usually followed by the cubic
> footage and assorted other numbers and letters at the end - Posted
> inside left of the fridge. I have all the service manuals, and
> this should be no harder than manually extracting ice from bags 4
> times day.

Good, you didn't take me up on that. I "failed" a stress test the
next morning and have been unavailable until now. Apparently I
had a moderate apical inferior wall MI (heart attack) in the
previous 7-10 days that I didn't even feel.

Pretty cool, eh? So from now on, anybody mentions "heart attack",
I say, "Pbbbt! Pussy! Piece of cake!".

But we could have figured out what was wrong with the fridge in a
few steps and maybe even fixed it without needing parts. What was
the problem or is there still time?

-sw

On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 02:22:10 -0600, Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.compost>
wrote:

>On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 23:32:41 -0600, Sqwertz wrote:
>
>> OK, so water stream is up to par and pissing fine. We'll find that
>> test button. Is there a manually accessible ice bucket? Is there
>> ice in it? What's the model number? We'll run the diagnostic
>> mode. It may sound like there's a FedEx truck backing up in your
>> kitchen for 15 minutes while that runs (mine beeps obnoxiously
>> loud) but its saved me hundreds of dollars. And when that didn't
>> work, I arbitrated a win.
>>
>> I've fixed my ice maker 5 times now. And I just ordered the
>> thermoplastic beads from TEMU today to finally help me fix that
>> ice sensor arm (I made the last one out of Crazy Straws(tm) but it
>> didn't last but 4 months).
>>
>> Model number begins with RF...usually followed by the cubic
>> footage and assorted other numbers and letters at the end - Posted
>> inside left of the fridge. I have all the service manuals, and
>> this should be no harder than manually extracting ice from bags 4
>> times day.
>
>Good, you didn't take me up on that. I "failed" a stress test the
>next morning and have been unavailable until now. Apparently I
>had a moderate apical inferior wall MI (heart attack) in the
>previous 7-10 days that I didn't even feel.

Here we go again.

On 2023-11-16, Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.compost> wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 15:12:26 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> You must not use very much ice. We go through the entire output
>> of the ice maker plus and 8-pound bag of ice every week.
>
> I supplement the output with ice trays. That takes up less space
> and money than buying 8lbs bags of ice.

I don't care about the money, and picking up a bag at the grocery
store is more convenient. Our bottom-drawer freezer has better
accommodation for a bag of ice; the pull-out where we'd naturally
keep ice trays (1) moves, which would slosh the water until it
freezes and (2) is chronically full.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 02:22:10 -0600
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.compost> wrote:

> I "failed" a stress test the
> next morning and have been unavailable until now. Apparently I
> had a moderate apical inferior wall MI (heart attack) in the
> previous 7-10 days that I didn't even feel.

That's nothing to take lightly, some treadmill time and dietary upgrades are called for.

But first:

"...initial management should be directed toward the treatment of myocardial ischemia, with continuous ECG monitoring and administration of aspirin, intravenous heparin, and βeta-blockers...

Wake up call, don't sleep on it.

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