On 2023-11-13, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> On 2023-11-13 3:22 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>> On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 9:41:52 AM UTC-10, mevrouw Bruce
>> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 15:12:26 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
>>> <hami...@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>>>> You must not use very much ice. We go through the entire output
>>>> of the ice maker plus and 8-pound bag of ice every week.
>>> I thought you only have to look at a drink to cool it down a lot.
>>> Just pretend it's your mother.
>>
>> Americans are used to having as much ice as they can get their
>> greedy, pudgy. fingers on. When we were in the UK, it was a fight to
>> get a few more cubes of ice in a glass.
>
>
> It does seem to be an American thing. I know more people who complain
> about having too much ice than too little. Most of the time I rarely
> bother with ice in water. Straight out of the tap is fine for me.
> Restaurants tend to load up soft drinks with ice because it is cheaper
> than the the drink, be it a soft drink or a mixed drink.
>
>
> Asking for a glass full of
>> ice would be horrifying to those people across that pond. I'm pretty
>> sure the Brits would have given us a glass full of ice if we
>> insisted. Of course, they'd spit in the glass first. "Stupid yanks -
>> patooie!" Pro travel tip: If you go to the UK, be sure to pack your
>> own ice - you're going to need it.
>
> They are the same way about cold beer. Most American beer is served
> really cold. Many of the good beers in Europe are made to be consumed at
> room temperature.

Probably not the un-airconditioned room temperature in Texas.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 13:50:06 -0800 (PST), dsi1
<dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

>On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 11:33:17 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 12:22:41 -0800 (PST), dsi1
>> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Americans are used to having as much ice as they can get their greedy, pudgy. fingers on. When we were in the UK, it was a fight to get a few more cubes of ice in a glass. Asking for a glass full of ice would be horrifying to those people across that pond. I'm pretty sure the Brits would have given us a glass full of ice if we insisted. Of course, they'd spit in the glass first. "Stupid yanks - patooie!"
>> >Pro travel tip: If you go to the UK, be sure to pack your own ice - you're going to need it.
>> When I get a drink out of the fridge, it's already cold. Apparently,
>> Americans want it colder. I can't believe all the ice making angst
>> lately in RFC.
>
>I certainly can - Americans love ice. Why is that? I don't know but that hardly matters. Non-Americans love soccer, mackerel, and multi-national song contests. Why is that? It hardly matters.

Soccer because it's the world's most popular sport. Mackerel isn't as
popular as salmon or tuna in Europe, for instance. Multi-national song
contests because non-Americans are able to look further than their own
country and because gays have a right to entertainment too.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp1_OKawHYw

I remember watching it live in 1974 or thereabouts.

On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 16:57:23 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2023-11-13 3:22 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> Americans are used to having as much ice as they can get their
>> greedy, pudgy. fingers on. When we were in the UK, it was a fight to
>> get a few more cubes of ice in a glass.
>
>
>It does seem to be an American thing. I know more people who complain
>about having too much ice than too little. Most of the time I rarely
>bother with ice in water. Straight out of the tap is fine for me.
>Restaurants tend to load up soft drinks with ice because it is cheaper
>than the the drink, be it a soft drink or a mixed drink.
>
> Asking for a glass full of
>> ice would be horrifying to those people across that pond. I'm pretty
>> sure the Brits would have given us a glass full of ice if we
>> insisted. Of course, they'd spit in the glass first. "Stupid yanks -
>> patooie!" Pro travel tip: If you go to the UK, be sure to pack your
>> own ice - you're going to need it.
>
>They are the same way about cold beer. Most American beer is served
>really cold. Many of the good beers in Europe are made to be consumed at
>room temperature.

Nonsense. Maybe in the UK.

On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 22:15:41 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
<hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

>On 2023-11-13, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>> It does seem to be an American thing. I know more people who complain
>> about having too much ice than too little. Most of the time I rarely
>> bother with ice in water. Straight out of the tap is fine for me.
>> Restaurants tend to load up soft drinks with ice because it is cheaper
>> than the the drink, be it a soft drink or a mixed drink.
>>
>>
>> Asking for a glass full of
>>> ice would be horrifying to those people across that pond. I'm pretty
>>> sure the Brits would have given us a glass full of ice if we
>>> insisted. Of course, they'd spit in the glass first. "Stupid yanks -
>>> patooie!" Pro travel tip: If you go to the UK, be sure to pack your
>>> own ice - you're going to need it.
>>
>> They are the same way about cold beer. Most American beer is served
>> really cold. Many of the good beers in Europe are made to be consumed at
>> room temperature.
>
>Probably not the un-airconditioned room temperature in Texas.

Don't listen to him. Beer is served cold in Europe.

On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 12:16:53 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 13:50:06 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>
> >On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 11:33:17 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 12:22:41 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> >> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Americans are used to having as much ice as they can get their greedy, pudgy. fingers on. When we were in the UK, it was a fight to get a few more cubes of ice in a glass. Asking for a glass full of ice would be horrifying to those people across that pond. I'm pretty sure the Brits would have given us a glass full of ice if we insisted. Of course, they'd spit in the glass first. "Stupid yanks - patooie!"
> >> >Pro travel tip: If you go to the UK, be sure to pack your own ice - you're going to need it.
> >> When I get a drink out of the fridge, it's already cold. Apparently,
> >> Americans want it colder. I can't believe all the ice making angst
> >> lately in RFC.
> >
> >I certainly can - Americans love ice. Why is that? I don't know but that hardly matters. Non-Americans love soccer, mackerel, and multi-national song contests. Why is that? It hardly matters.
> Soccer because it's the world's most popular sport. Mackerel isn't as
> popular as salmon or tuna in Europe, for instance. Multi-national song
> contests because non-Americans are able to look further than their own
> country and because gays have a right to entertainment too.
>
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp1_OKawHYw
>
> I remember watching it live in 1974 or thereabouts.

I predict that those kids will make it big in the future - but only in Australia.
Americans think Eurovision is goofy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYFxJ66liTA

On 2023-11-13 5:15 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2023-11-13, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>> They are the same way about cold beer. Most American beer is served
>> really cold. Many of the good beers in Europe are made to be consumed at
>> room temperature.
>
> Probably not the un-airconditioned room temperature in Texas.
>
I am not all that keen on drinking extremely cold water and especially
not large amounts of it. Our summer temperatures don't get anywhere
near as hot as Texas.

On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 14:31:59 -0800 (PST), dsi1
<dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

>On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 12:16:53 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 13:50:06 -0800 (PST), dsi1
>> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 11:33:17 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 12:22:41 -0800 (PST), dsi1
>> >> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Americans are used to having as much ice as they can get their greedy, pudgy. fingers on. When we were in the UK, it was a fight to get a few more cubes of ice in a glass. Asking for a glass full of ice would be horrifying to those people across that pond. I'm pretty sure the Brits would have given us a glass full of ice if we insisted. Of course, they'd spit in the glass first. "Stupid yanks - patooie!"
>> >> >Pro travel tip: If you go to the UK, be sure to pack your own ice - you're going to need it.
>> >> When I get a drink out of the fridge, it's already cold. Apparently,
>> >> Americans want it colder. I can't believe all the ice making angst
>> >> lately in RFC.
>> >
>> >I certainly can - Americans love ice. Why is that? I don't know but that hardly matters. Non-Americans love soccer, mackerel, and multi-national song contests. Why is that? It hardly matters.
>> Soccer because it's the world's most popular sport. Mackerel isn't as
>> popular as salmon or tuna in Europe, for instance. Multi-national song
>> contests because non-Americans are able to look further than their own
>> country and because gays have a right to entertainment too.
>>
>> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp1_OKawHYw
>>
>> I remember watching it live in 1974 or thereabouts.
>
>I predict that those kids will make it big in the future - but only in Australia.
>Americans think Eurovision is goofy.
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYFxJ66liTA
>
It's extremely goofy and camp.

On 11/13/2023 9:58 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2023-11-12 11:43 p.m., Ed P wrote:
>> On 11/12/2023 11:39 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>
>>> And then we'll take it from there.  Setting timer for Wednesday
>>> night... On my mark...
>>>
>>> -sw
>>
>>
>> Samsung fridge.  Usually, it would get a stray cube or two jammed and
>> I'd thaw it with a hair dryer.  Water and filter are fine.  No test
>> button
>> I'm thinking water valve. I did shut the circuit off for a minute to
>> reset if there is something for that.
>
> I always figure that optional gizmos are likely to fail at some point so
> I never got an ice maker.  I have never seen much need for an ice maker
> when I can just fill up some ice cube trays and stick them into the
> freezer.

LOL You sound like Sheldon! He was always going off about ice makers.
First thing to break! Al you need is ice cube trays!

Ed's icemaker notwithstanding, the circa 1987 GE side by side
refrigerator freezer with an in the door ice maker/water dispenser my
parents owned never once broke. The whole unit did eventually die but
it was not a problem with the ice maker. The problem was they didn't
make the parts for the refrigerator or freezer anymore.

Jill

On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 18:35:26 -0500, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On 11/13/2023 9:58 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> I always figure that optional gizmos are likely to fail at some point so
>> I never got an ice maker.  I have never seen much need for an ice maker
>> when I can just fill up some ice cube trays and stick them into the
>> freezer.
>
>LOL You sound like Sheldon! He was always going off about ice makers.
>First thing to break! Al you need is ice cube trays!
>
>Ed's icemaker notwithstanding, the circa 1987 GE side by side
>refrigerator freezer with an in the door ice maker/water dispenser my
>parents owned never once broke. The whole unit did eventually die but
>it was not a problem with the ice maker. The problem was they didn't
>make the parts for the refrigerator or freezer anymore.
>
If it wasn't for RFC, I'd never have heard of AIMA, American Ice Maker
Angst.

On 11/13/2023 1:11 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2023-11-13, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> On 2023-11-13 8:12 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On 2023-11-13, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>> On 2023-11-12 11:43 p.m., Ed P wrote:
>>>>> On 11/12/2023 11:39 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> And then we'll take it from there.  Setting timer for Wednesday
>>>>>> night... On my mark...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -sw
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Samsung fridge.  Usually, it would get a stray cube or two jammed and
>>>>> I'd thaw it with a hair dryer.  Water and filter are fine.  No test button
>>>>> I'm thinking water valve. I did shut the circuit off for a minute to
>>>>> reset if there is something for that.
>>>>
>>>> I always figure that optional gizmos are likely to fail at some point so
>>>> I never got an ice maker. I have never seen much need for an ice maker
>>>> when I can just fill up some ice cube trays and stick them into the
>>>> freezer.
>>>
>>> You must not use very much ice. We go through the entire output
>>> of the ice maker plus and 8-pound bag of ice every week.
>>>
>> You're one cool bird:-)
>
> It's my husband. His idea of a beverage is to take a 32-ounce glass,
> fill it with ice, then displace the air with water. Repeat several
> times per day.
>

I do drink ice water (8 oz glass several times a day) and take a thermos
of ice water to work. But I never run out of ice from my ice maker.

Jill

On 11/13/2023 3:40 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 11/12/2023 4:33 PM, Ed P wrote:
>> This is a terrible tragedy and I'm sure I'll get a lot of sympathy.
>>
>> I'm on Day 2 of a broken ice maker in the refrigerator. Not jammed, just
>> no ice. The appliance guy does not think he can get here until Thursday.
>>
>> It is living like my ancestors did in Poland in the 1860s.
>
> I should have left you with one of my aluminum 50's ice cube trays with
> the pull-up handles.  Grandma couldn't wait to get rid of those when
> grandpa passed away in 2009.  Being a "normal" 14 year old, I saved
> them.  Well, they come in handy sometimes!

*One* metal ice cube tray?! I remember those things. Mom had them
stacked in the top freezer. Best to run the base under water so the ice
cubes release easily. I would not go back to using those things if you
paid me.

Jill

On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 09:17:53 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Many of the good beers in Europe are made to be consumed at
> >room temperature.
>
> Nonsense.

Nope:

https://draftmag.com/do-germans-drink-warm-beer

For years many people have wondered, “Do Germans drink warm beer?” due to a prevailing myth that has its roots in the 17th Century. The accurate answer is both “Yes” and “No” because, though the Germans don’t drink warm beer, there are seasons in which the Germans prefer warm beer to cold ales.

Warm beer was not only a thing in Germany as history proves that countries England and even the US enjoyed their beers served at room temperature. These suds were consumed at any time of the day and during any season of the year.

On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 09:20:21 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Beer is served cold in Europe.
https://draftmag.com/do-germans-drink-warm-beer

Ed P wrote:
....
> Water filter. Works well.

well water, right from the ground, a bit of iron
and calcium in it. completely fine to me to drink.
no filter needed at all.

so not works on this well nor wanted or needed.

the time when i was into marine aquariums i did
run an RO unit to get good quality water without
any copper in it.

songbird

On 11/13/2023 6:52 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/13/2023 3:40 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
>> On 11/12/2023 4:33 PM, Ed P wrote:
>>> This is a terrible tragedy and I'm sure I'll get a lot of sympathy.
>>>
>>> I'm on Day 2 of a broken ice maker in the refrigerator. Not jammed, just
>>> no ice. The appliance guy does not think he can get here until Thursday.
>>>
>>> It is living like my ancestors did in Poland in the 1860s.
>>
>> I should have left you with one of my aluminum 50's ice cube trays
>> with the pull-up handles. Grandma couldn't wait to get rid of those
>> when grandpa passed away in 2009. Being a "normal" 14 year old, I
>> saved them. Well, they come in handy sometimes!
>
> *One* metal ice cube tray?! I remember those things. Mom had them
> stacked in the top freezer. Best to run the base under water so the ice
> cubes release easily. I would not go back to using those things if you
> paid me.

I own three of them, and while I don't use a lot of ice, those metal
trays are used. No flimsy plastic here for me. You'd lose your mind if
we switched houses. I more or less have a living museum here.

On 11/13/2023 4:57 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2023-11-13 3:22 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>> On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 9:41:52 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> Americans are used to having as much ice as they can get their
>> greedy, pudgy. fingers on. When we were in the UK, it was a fight to
>> get a few more cubes of ice in a glass.
>
> It does seem to be an American thing. I know more people who complain
> about having too much ice than too little. Most of the time I rarely
> bother with ice in water. Straight out of the tap is fine for me.
> Restaurants tend to load up soft drinks with ice because it is cheaper
> than the the drink, be it a soft drink or a mixed drink.

I rarely use ice. Sometimes at home, but if at a restaurant, I ask for
"light" or "no" ice. If I'm paying for a drink, I'm not going to pay to
have it padded out with ice.

On 11/13/2023 4:32 PM, Bruce wrote:
> When I get a drink out of the fridge, it's already cold. Apparently,
> Americans want it colder. I can't believe all the ice making angst
> lately in RFC.

I never make/have ice unless daughter is coming for a visit.

On 11/13/2023 6:35 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/13/2023 9:58 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> I always figure that optional gizmos are likely to fail at some point
>> so I never got an ice maker. I have never seen much need for an ice
>> maker when I can just fill up some ice cube trays and stick them into
>> the freezer.
>
> LOL You sound like Sheldon! He was always going off about ice makers.
> First thing to break! Al you need is ice cube trays!

Sheldon was correct. Your exception aside, most ice makers are the most
faulty part of a refrigerator. It's amazing how much extra electricity
an ice maker uses, also. Some models report twice the energy
consumption (for the entire fridge) due to the ice maker.

On 14/11/2023 15:29, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 11/13/2023 4:57 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2023-11-13 3:22 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 9:41:52 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> Americans are used to having as much ice as they can get their
>>> greedy, pudgy. fingers on. When we were in the UK, it was a fight to
>>> get a few more cubes of ice in a glass.
>>
>> It does seem to be an American thing. I know more people who complain
>> about having too much ice than too little. Most of the time I rarely
>> bother with ice in water. Straight out of the tap is fine for me.
>> Restaurants tend to load up soft drinks with ice because it is cheaper
>> than the the drink, be it a soft drink or a mixed drink.
>
> I rarely use ice.  Sometimes at home, but if at a restaurant, I ask for
> "light" or "no" ice.  If I'm paying for a drink, I'm not going to pay to
> have it padded out with ice.

Many years ago, my sister 'interned' (read 'provided free labour') at a
summer stock theatre at the Jersey shore.
One of the many tasks assigned to the interns, was selling refreshments
to the audience. The guy who ran the company told them to fill the
tumblers with ice before pouring in the soda. 'Soda's expensive, you
know...'

On 14/11/2023 16:17, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 11/13/2023 6:35 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 11/13/2023 9:58 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> I always figure that optional gizmos are likely to fail at some point
>>> so I never got an ice maker.  I have never seen much need for an ice
>>> maker when I can just fill up some ice cube trays and stick them into
>>> the freezer.
>>
>> LOL You sound like Sheldon! He was always going off about ice makers.
>> First thing to break! Al you need is ice cube trays!
>
> Sheldon was correct.  Your exception aside, most ice makers are the most
> faulty part of a refrigerator.  It's amazing how much extra electricity
> an ice maker uses, also.  Some models report twice the energy
> consumption (for the entire fridge) due to the ice maker.

Our first refrigerator, in our first apartment, came with an ice maker.
We never bothered to connect it.

On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 5:42:39 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> On 11/13/2023 4:32 PM, Bruce wrote:
> > When I get a drink out of the fridge, it's already cold. Apparently,
> > Americans want it colder. I can't believe all the ice making angst
> > lately in RFC.
> I never make/have ice unless daughter is coming for a visit.

My daughter bought an ice mold that makes large spheres of ice. As a boomer, I'm fully vested in not understanding the concept.

https://www.amazon.com/glacio-Large-Sphere-Mold-Tray/dp/B07GXB7BYB

On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 11:06:11 AM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 5:42:39 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> > On 11/13/2023 4:32 PM, Bruce wrote:
> > > When I get a drink out of the fridge, it's already cold. Apparently,
> > > Americans want it colder. I can't believe all the ice making angst
> > > lately in RFC.
> > I never make/have ice unless daughter is coming for a visit.
> My daughter bought an ice mold that makes large spheres of ice. As a boomer, I'm fully vested in not understanding the concept.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/glacio-Large-Sphere-Mold-Tray/dp/B07GXB7BYB

Japan fact of the day

marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2023/11/japan-fact-of-the-day-

by Tyler Cowen November 14, 2023 at 3:19 am in Travel

"People make a lot of the fact that Americans don’t travel a lot (43% have passports) but I’m not sure people realise how massive that is compared to Japan, where only 21.7m people now have passports, not even a fifth of the country.

My initial reaction was surprise too - the Japanese tourists are still there if you know where to look. I went to Harvard in the late 2000's and every day several busloads of Japanese tourists arrived to walk and photograph all the major campus landmarks.

They all had very nice cameras and took pictures of everything. On nice days I would eat lunch outside near something they liked taking pictures of and chuckle to myself at the idea that I was part of some Japanese guy's photo album.

Then somebody explained it to me: in fact, the reason Japanese tourists are so conspicuous and take photos of everything is because Japanese travel so rarely that when they do, they make a big deal out of it. My guess is that it also helps that Japan is home to the world's best camera companies..."

--
GM

On 2023-11-14 12:06 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 5:42:39 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>> On 11/13/2023 4:32 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>> When I get a drink out of the fridge, it's already cold. Apparently,
>>> Americans want it colder. I can't believe all the ice making angst
>>> lately in RFC.
>> I never make/have ice unless daughter is coming for a visit.
>
> My daughter bought an ice mold that makes large spheres of ice. As a boomer, I'm fully vested in not understanding the concept.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/glacio-Large-Sphere-Mold-Tray/dp/B07GXB7BYB

It's the mathematics of the shapes and the relative mass, volume and
surface area and how it changes as the ice melts.

On 2023-11-14 9:48 a.m., S Viemeister wrote:
> On 14/11/2023 16:17, Michael Trew wrote:
>> On 11/13/2023 6:35 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 11/13/2023 9:58 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I always figure that optional gizmos are likely to fail at some point
>>>> so I never got an ice maker.  I have never seen much need for an ice
>>>> maker when I can just fill up some ice cube trays and stick them into
>>>> the freezer.
>>>
>>> LOL You sound like Sheldon! He was always going off about ice makers.
>>> First thing to break! Al you need is ice cube trays!
>>
>> Sheldon was correct.  Your exception aside, most ice makers are the
>> most faulty part of a refrigerator.  It's amazing how much extra
>> electricity an ice maker uses, also.  Some models report twice the
>> energy consumption (for the entire fridge) due to the ice maker.
>
> Our first refrigerator, in our first apartment, came with an ice maker.
> We never bothered to connect it.

Many years ago, an architect friend was designing the cafeteria at a new
university. He told me that the profit margin on Coke was close to 1000%.
That was based on the syrup cost and the amount of water needed to make
it up.

On 11/14/2023 12:06 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 5:42:39 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>> On 11/13/2023 4:32 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>> When I get a drink out of the fridge, it's already cold. Apparently,
>>> Americans want it colder. I can't believe all the ice making angst
>>> lately in RFC.
>> I never make/have ice unless daughter is coming for a visit.
>
> My daughter bought an ice mold that makes large spheres of ice. As a boomer, I'm fully vested in not understanding the concept.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/glacio-Large-Sphere-Mold-Tray/dp/B07GXB7BYB

It is good if you are sipping a good bourbon. Cools, but with less
dilution that a bunch of cubes. I have a similar contraption and I heat
the water first, then the ball is clear and melts even slower.