On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 3:46:12 AM UTC-10, songbird wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
> ...
> > I've seen some combo washer/dryers being sold in the US. You can wash your clothes without loading up a dryer. The Brits like to wash their clothes in the kitchen so it's quite handy to have a single machine for that job. Some of them use a heat pump instead of gas or heating elements. That's a good idea. The good news is that these heat pump dryers are more efficient than regular dryers. They can run on plain old 120 volts and there's no freaking venting of hot air. How beautiful is that? Very.
> the moisture laden air has to go somewhere. venting it into
> the house is not a great thing to do sometimes (in the middle
> of winter it's not so bad, but in the humid summer months i
> sure would not want to have it in the house instead of going
> outside).
>
>
> songbird

It's a closed system. It recycles the hot air. You need a small tube to get rid of the water.

On 2024-01-26 11:56 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>> my comment was about gassing them when caught in a
>> live trap.
>
> There are always more skunks. I just can't worry about them.
>

After having lived in an area that was rife with skunks I am very happy
about their almost complete absence where I live now. I don't think
they are much a problem in Toronto. Perhaps they have been crowded out
by the racoons there. Toronto has become known as the racoon capital of
the world. They even designed racoon proof trash cans, but it didn't
take long for the racoons to figure them out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Peuy0FE4X8&ab_channel=TerraMater

jmcquown wrote:
> Venting hot damp air into the house also induces mold growth.
>
> Jill
>
I heard that every time you fart you blow your shoes off.

songbird wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> They <skunks> stink. I sometimes can't open a window at night.
>
> OMG *rolls eyes*
>
>
> songbird
>
>
Smells like weed.

On 2024-01-26, dsi1 wrote:

> It's a closed system. It recycles the hot air.
> You need a small tube to get rid of the water.

You are both half-right. In the summer, vent to outside.
In winter, run through dehumidifier in HVAC. Liquifying
water creates more heat than the power used, like the 'Gain'
in winter heat pumps.

Yes about the tube, but your system should have one already.

I just run my basement de-humidifier on top of the drain
with a neat clear plastic tube to see water trickling out.

Any extra heat given off convects or conducts into the house.

Johnnie Moxley wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> Venting hot damp air into the house also induces mold growth.
>>
>> Jill
> >
> I heard that every time you fart you blow your shoes off.

Man, wait till the old gal queefs!

Hank Rogers wrote:
> Johnnie Moxley wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> Venting hot damp air into the house also induces mold growth.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>  >
>> I heard that every time you fart you blow your shoes off.
>
> Man, wait till the old gal queefs!
>
>
Dust storm.

Johnnie Moxley wrote:
> Hank Rogers wrote:
>> Johnnie Moxley wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>> Venting hot damp air into the house also induces mold growth.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>  >
>>> I heard that every time you fart you blow your shoes off.
>>
>> Man, wait till the old gal queefs!
>>
>>
> Dust storm.

Tucson, in the summer.

On 2024-01-26, bruce bowser wrote:

> Live traps are good because the whole trap can then
> be placed in water until the nuisance animal drowns.

Also if you want to trap a groundhog but you catch a
racoon you can let it go. I'd seen racoons dozens of
times, but never one faster than a brisk cantor.

This one scrambled away in a gallop.

On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 1:31:27 PM UTC-6, bruce bowser wrote:
> On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 1:33:05 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On 2024-01-25, songbird <song...@anthive.com> wrote:
> > > Ed P wrote:
> > >> On 1/25/2024 5:44 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > >>> I don't get close enough to worry about it. When I see a skunk at the
> > >>> bird feeder, I lean out the back door and hiss. They lumber away.
> > >>
> > >> Please post a video of that.
> > >
> > > it's sad that people do that to them.
> > C'mon, man. Hissing at a skunk and making it feel unwelcome is
> > no big deal. They don't even run. It's more like they figure
> > "I don't have to put up with this crap".
> > > we don't normally
> > > see them around here, but they feed on about the same sorts
> > > of things that raccoons and possums go after (minus the
> > > mudbugs). hmm, in fact, i've never seen them because they
> > > are nocturnal and i'm rarely outside at night.
> > My husband checks the yard at bedtime. Sometimes there's a skunk
> > 15-20 feet away from the house. Sometimes I check the yard when
> > I get up at 4 or 5 am. Ditto.
> > > i do smell
> > > them. they dig up grubs from the grass and probably also
> > > eat worms and slugs. harmless.
> > They dig up the grass. I'm not a big lawn person, but I don't
> > want holes in what pathetic lawn I've got. My ankles have had
> > a hard enough life without turning one of them by stepping into
> > another hole in the yard. Would it be better to put down GrubEx?
> >
> > They stink. I sometimes can't open a window at night.
> Live traps are good because the whole trap can then be placed in water until the nuisance animal drowns.

That's what Michael Douglas did to Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction. Glenn popped up and needed more work.

On 2024-01-26 4:35 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
> On 2024-01-26, bruce bowser wrote:
>
>> Live traps are good because the whole trap can then
>> be placed in water until the nuisance animal drowns.
>
> Also if you want to trap a groundhog but you catch a
> racoon you can let it go. I'd seen racoons dozens of
> times, but never one faster than a brisk cantor.
>
> This one scrambled away in a gallop.
>
Singing at the top of his voice, no doubt:-)

On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 5:34:56 PM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
> On 1/24/2024 9:38 PM, Ed P wrote:
> > On 1/24/2024 9:08 PM, Laguna Material wrote:
> >
> >> Line dried sheets are easy to fold over while on the line. Dryer dried
> >> must be held with stretched hands until done.
> >> I fear bug infestation outside more than birds. In hot weather I'll
> >> put wet towels outside. Most partially dried ( with softner sheet)
> >> stuff like towels, pants and shirts are hung on the shower curtain
> >> bar. Some with wire hangers. A big item may get draped over the indoor
> >> stationary bike.
> >>
> > snip
> >
> >> The sensor does not account for thick bands of material that take
> >> longer to dry. I check periodically and remove dry stuff and examine
> >> thick stuff for moisture.
> >>
> What sensor? On a clothesline? Get real.

The original post mentioned dryers which measure via sensor.

> >> One sheet leaves little wiggle room for laundry schedule. If I want
> >> to wait a week to wash the removed sheet I can, and did so today. I
> >> got 4 shirts hanging on my curtain rod now. The have fewer wrinkles
> >> when hung up partially dry. And a pair of jeans on the bike handles.
> >>
> >
> > Cost to run the dryers is negligible. I put everything in the dryer and
> > push the Start button.
> >
> > I use gas for drying clothes,hot water, cooking, grilling. Bill runs $8
> > to $10 a month. I'm not going to cart wet clothes around and hanging
> > all over to save maybe $2.50 a month.
> Laguna obviously lives in some other country where there are bug
> infestations and hanging clothes on racks around the house seem to
> somehow fend them off. Hanging clothes on the stationary bicycle
> handles... everyone aspires to that.
>
> How about just buy a dryer?

I own a Whirlpool made in Michigan. One of the Hamilton clan may have designed it.
Just prefer to run my dryer 25 minutes instead of 45

On 2024-01-26 6:35 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
> On 2024-01-26, bruce bowser wrote:
>
>> Live traps are good because the whole trap can then
>> be placed in water until the nuisance animal drowns.
>
> Also if you want to trap a groundhog but you catch a
> racoon you can let it go. I'd seen racoons dozens of
> times, but never one faster than a brisk cantor.
>
> This one scrambled away in a gallop.
>

My SiL had a problem with feral cars so she contacted the Humane
Society. They brought some live traps and caught a number of cats that
they took back to the pound with the hope they would be adopted. The
trap was not discriminating and one day it caught a skunk. They did not
want to deal with it and said she had to deal with it. She finally got
them to act on it by insisting it was their trap, not hers.

On 2024-01-26 8:53 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2024-01-26 6:35 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
>> On 2024-01-26, bruce bowser wrote:
>>
>>> Live traps are good because the whole trap can then
>>> be placed in water until the nuisance animal drowns.
>>
>> Also if you want to trap a groundhog but you catch a
>> racoon you can let it go. I'd seen racoons dozens of
>> times, but never one faster than a brisk cantor.
>>
>> This one scrambled away in a gallop.
>>
>
> My SiL had a problem with feral cars

We're on a roll with singing racoons and feral cars:-)

On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 22:53:55 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2024-01-26 6:35 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
>> On 2024-01-26, bruce bowser wrote:
>>
>>> Live traps are good because the whole trap can then
>>> be placed in water until the nuisance animal drowns.
>>
>> Also if you want to trap a groundhog but you catch a
>> racoon you can let it go. I'd seen racoons dozens of
>> times, but never one faster than a brisk cantor.
>>
>> This one scrambled away in a gallop.
>>
>
>My SiL had a problem with feral cars so she contacted the Humane
>Society.

If there's one thing I hate it's feral cars! The noise!

On 2024-01-27, Graham wrote:

> On 2024-01-26 8:53 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:

>> On 2024-01-26 6:35 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:

>>> times, but never one faster than a brisk cantor.
>>> This one scrambled away in a gallop.
>> My SiL had a problem with feral cars

> We're on a roll with singing racoons and feral cars:-)

OK, maybe I should have said 'canter'. So,
I looked it up and now believe I really should
say 'trot'. The point is, I did not think them
capable of anything that fast.

He gave me a little warning growl when I made ready
to release him. (Put on leather gloves.)

On 2024-01-26 11:02 p.m., Graham wrote:
> On 2024-01-26 8:53 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2024-01-26 6:35 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
>>> On 2024-01-26, bruce bowser wrote:
>>>
>>>> Live traps are good because the whole trap can then
>>>> be placed in water until the nuisance animal drowns.
>>>
>>> Also if you want to trap a groundhog but you catch a
>>> racoon you can let it go. I'd seen racoons dozens of
>>> times, but never one faster than a brisk cantor.
>>>
>>> This one scrambled away in a gallop.
>>>
>>
>> My SiL had a problem with feral cars
>
> We're on a roll with singing racoons and feral cars:-)
>
oops... typo... feral cats

On 1/26/2024 11:12 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
> On 2024-01-27, Graham wrote:
>
>> On 2024-01-26 8:53 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>> On 2024-01-26 6:35 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
>
>>>> times, but never one faster than a brisk cantor.
>>>> This one scrambled away in a gallop.
>
>>> My SiL had a problem with feral cars
>
>> We're on a roll with singing racoons and feral cars:-)
>
> OK, maybe I should have said 'canter'. So,
> I looked it up and now believe I really should
> say 'trot'. The point is, I did not think them
> capable of anything that fast.
>
> He gave me a little warning growl when I made ready
> to release him. (Put on leather gloves.)
>
Raccoons can run at a pretty brisk clip when they are motivated :)

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> coons can run at a pretty brisk clip when they are motivated :)
>
> Jill
>
Especially after holding up the convenience store.

On 1/23/2024 9:59 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2024-01-23 12:49 a.m., itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
>
>> When I was a kid my mother would hang out laundry when it was 30° and
>> the stuff would freeze dry. I was a kid, but I thought it was
>> incredibly stupid
>> because she had a clothes dryer but scared to death it would increase the
>> electric bill by a dollar. How I hated those sandpaper towels. GRRRRRRRR
>
> Towels get stiff in warm weather too. I confess to liking the feel of
> stiff towels.

That's the fault of too much detergent left on the fabric. Using an
automatic clothes dryer can mask the stiffness of the leftover
detergent, but a splash of white vinegar in the rinse water makes all
the difference, whether line dried or into the automatic clothes dryer.
Cut back on the detergent a bit, also. I read this in a "Hints From
Heloise" column years ago, and it hasn't failed me since.

On 1/27/2024 8:26 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 1/23/2024 9:59 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2024-01-23 12:49 a.m., itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
>>
>>> When I was a kid my mother would hang out laundry when it was 30° and
>>> the stuff would freeze dry. I was a kid, but I thought it was
>>> incredibly stupid
>>> because she had a clothes dryer but scared to death it would increase
>>> the
>>> electric bill by a dollar. How I hated those sandpaper towels. GRRRRRRRR
>>
>> Towels get stiff in warm weather too. I confess to liking the feel of
>> stiff towels.
>
> That's the fault of too much detergent left on the fabric.  Using an
> automatic clothes dryer can mask the stiffness of the leftover
> detergent, but a splash of white vinegar in the rinse water makes all
> the difference, whether line dried or into the automatic clothes dryer.
>  Cut back on the detergent a bit, also.  I read this in a "Hints From
> Heloise" column years ago, and it hasn't failed me since.
>
One can also set the washer to extra rinse, that is if one owns a decent
washer.

--
--Bryan
For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
tested on laboratory animals.

"Most of the food described here is nauseating.
We're just too courteous to say so."
-- Cindy Hamilton

On 1/27/2024 9:26 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 1/23/2024 9:59 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2024-01-23 12:49 a.m., itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
>>
>>> When I was a kid my mother would hang out laundry when it was 30° and
>>> the stuff would freeze dry. I was a kid, but I thought it was
>>> incredibly stupid
>>> because she had a clothes dryer but scared to death it would increase
>>> the
>>> electric bill by a dollar. How I hated those sandpaper towels. GRRRRRRRR
>>
>> Towels get stiff in warm weather too. I confess to liking the feel of
>> stiff towels.
>
> That's the fault of too much detergent left on the fabric.  Using an
> automatic clothes dryer can mask the stiffness of the leftover
> detergent, but a splash of white vinegar in the rinse water makes all
> the difference, whether line dried or into the automatic clothes dryer.
>  Cut back on the detergent a bit, also.  I read this in a "Hints From
> Heloise" column years ago, and it hasn't failed me since.

Most machines today have a dispenser for fabric softener. You can add
vinegar there. I've been meaning to try it. Next load will get it.

On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 10:06:32 PM UTC-6, Ed P wrote:
>
> Most machines today have a dispenser for fabric softener. You can add
> vinegar there. I've been meaning to try it. Next load will get it.
>
Vinegar is great for softening but does nothing for static cling.

On 1/27/2024 11:53 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
> On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 10:06:32 PM UTC-6, Ed P wrote:
>>
>> Most machines today have a dispenser for fabric softener. You can add
>> vinegar there. I've been meaning to try it. Next load will get it.
>>
> Vinegar is great for softening but does nothing for static cling.

Good point. Probably not an issue here but in cold climates sure would.

On 2024-01-28, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote:
> On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 10:06:32 PM UTC-6, Ed P wrote:
>>
>> Most machines today have a dispenser for fabric softener. You can add
>> vinegar there. I've been meaning to try it. Next load will get it.
>>
> Vinegar is great for softening but does nothing for static cling.

Static cling! The horror!

I don't use fabric softener. Yesterday when I folded a load of
clothes, some socks were stuck to an acrylic sweater. I peeled
off the socks and folded everything up. It's all good.

--
Cindy Hamilton