On 2024-02-03, Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
> On 1/30/2024 6:23 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 1/30/2024 12:29 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
>>>
>>> That is, if one doesn't mind wasting that extra water. I can get
>>> three loads of wash out of one tub of suds water in the wringer
>>> washer. Rinse water is standing in the soapstone/concrete laundry tub.
>>
>> Do you really think you're getting your clothes clean using the same
>> sudsy wash water (and the same rinse water in the laundry tub) three
>> times over? I don't even want to think about bath time at your house.
>
> When my siblings and I were very young, we shared bath water. I think
> most parents did this. The 7 and 9 year old here are beyond that now.
> Point is, no, I don't live like 19th century farmers did where everyone
> shared the same bath water once per week, in case you were concerned.
>
> Yes, the clothes all come out smelling and looking clean. I usually
> wash rugs, work clothes, or other soiled stuff in the last wash load.
> You seem to forget that people lived like this, reusing suds water on
> wash day, for many years. I don't know why people suddenly think it's
> "gross" now, but it wasn't "gross" to your parents or my grandparents,
> and prior generations.

People did a lot of things in the past that we don't do know. I just
can't recall the last time I threw the contents of the chamberpot
out the window.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On Sat, 03 Feb 2024 14:33:07 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
<hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

>On 2024-02-03, Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
>> On 1/30/2024 6:23 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 1/30/2024 12:29 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That is, if one doesn't mind wasting that extra water. I can get
>>>> three loads of wash out of one tub of suds water in the wringer
>>>> washer. Rinse water is standing in the soapstone/concrete laundry tub.
>>>
>>> Do you really think you're getting your clothes clean using the same
>>> sudsy wash water (and the same rinse water in the laundry tub) three
>>> times over? I don't even want to think about bath time at your house.
>>
>> When my siblings and I were very young, we shared bath water. I think
>> most parents did this. The 7 and 9 year old here are beyond that now.
>> Point is, no, I don't live like 19th century farmers did where everyone
>> shared the same bath water once per week, in case you were concerned.
>>
>> Yes, the clothes all come out smelling and looking clean. I usually
>> wash rugs, work clothes, or other soiled stuff in the last wash load.
>> You seem to forget that people lived like this, reusing suds water on
>> wash day, for many years. I don't know why people suddenly think it's
>> "gross" now, but it wasn't "gross" to your parents or my grandparents,
>> and prior generations.
>
>People did a lot of things in the past that we don't do know. I just
>can't recall the last time I threw the contents of the chamberpot
>out the window.

lol Don't walk to close to the houses in East Liverpool.

Michael Trew wrote:

> On 1/30/2024 6:23 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> > On 1/30/2024 12:29 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
> > >
> > > That is, if one doesn't mind wasting that extra water. I can get
> > > three loads of wash out of one tub of suds water in the wringer
> > > washer. Rinse water is standing in the soapstone/concrete
> > > laundry tub.
> >
> > Do you really think you're getting your clothes clean using the same
> > sudsy wash water (and the same rinse water in the laundry tub) three
> > times over? I don't even want to think about bath time at your
> > house.
>
> When my siblings and I were very young, we shared bath water. I
> think most parents did this. The 7 and 9 year old here are beyond
> that now. Point is, no, I don't live like 19th century farmers did
> where everyone shared the same bath water once per week, in case you
> were concerned.

Not uncommon as we were growing up either.

> Yes, the clothes all come out smelling and looking clean. I usually
> wash rugs, work clothes, or other soiled stuff in the last wash load.
> You seem to forget that people lived like this, reusing suds water on
> wash day, for many years. I don't know why people suddenly think
> it's "gross" now, but it wasn't "gross" to your parents or my
> grandparents, and prior generations.

It still isn't. Just don't resoap the water each load. (I don't know
as any mentioned that).

I did a variation of it as a college student. Washing nursing aide
stockings, bras and undies in woolite in the sink. Had to run '2 sink
loads'. Set aside to rinse or rinse in tub as you go along.

I'd have been delighted to have access to your setup at home in my
college years. It was rough times for me. Even stomping on work
uniforms in the bath tub with laundry soap the squeezing out by hand
and drying on any surface I could find.

I didn't have the cost of laundromats.

> >> I can easily tell if I used too much detergent, because if I use
> the
> > > right amount, the rinse water won't be sudsy at all until all
> > > three loads are rinsed. I do "cheat" and toss the rinsed clothes
> > > back into the mostly broken automatic washer, and use the "spin"
> > > cycle before drying them.
> >
> > "Cheating" is an odd word to use. Do you feel guilty using the spin
> > cycle?
>
> That was my attempt at humor. In reality, the wringer washer works
> really well to clean, but it does a poor job removing water from
> clothes. Straight from the wringer, very damp clothes would be in
> the electric clothes dryer nearly twice as long.

I understood it (grin).

Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On 2024-02-03, Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
> > On 1/30/2024 6:23 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> >> On 1/30/2024 12:29 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
> > > >
> >>> That is, if one doesn't mind wasting that extra water. I can get
> >>> three loads of wash out of one tub of suds water in the wringer
> >>> washer. Rinse water is standing in the soapstone/concrete
> laundry tub.
> > >
> >> Do you really think you're getting your clothes clean using the
> same >> sudsy wash water (and the same rinse water in the laundry
> tub) three >> times over? I don't even want to think about bath time
> at your house.
> >
> > When my siblings and I were very young, we shared bath water. I
> > think most parents did this. The 7 and 9 year old here are beyond
> > that now. Point is, no, I don't live like 19th century farmers did
> > where everyone shared the same bath water once per week, in case
> > you were concerned.
> >
> > Yes, the clothes all come out smelling and looking clean. I
> > usually wash rugs, work clothes, or other soiled stuff in the last
> > wash load. You seem to forget that people lived like this, reusing
> > suds water on wash day, for many years. I don't know why people
> > suddenly think it's "gross" now, but it wasn't "gross" to your
> > parents or my grandparents, and prior generations.
>
> People did a lot of things in the past that we don't do know. I just
> can't recall the last time I threw the contents of the chamberpot
> out the window.

1979 for me. Camping in the smokies in winter with Bill. Long before
meeting Don. Loads of fun but damn cold!

On 2/3/2024 9:33 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2024-02-03, Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
>> On 1/30/2024 6:23 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 1/30/2024 12:29 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That is, if one doesn't mind wasting that extra water. I can get
>>>> three loads of wash out of one tub of suds water in the wringer
>>>> washer. Rinse water is standing in the soapstone/concrete laundry tub.
>>>
>>> Do you really think you're getting your clothes clean using the same
>>> sudsy wash water (and the same rinse water in the laundry tub) three
>>> times over? I don't even want to think about bath time at your house.
>>
>> When my siblings and I were very young, we shared bath water. I think
>> most parents did this. The 7 and 9 year old here are beyond that now.
>> Point is, no, I don't live like 19th century farmers did where everyone
>> shared the same bath water once per week, in case you were concerned.
>>
>> Yes, the clothes all come out smelling and looking clean. I usually
>> wash rugs, work clothes, or other soiled stuff in the last wash load.
>> You seem to forget that people lived like this, reusing suds water on
>> wash day, for many years. I don't know why people suddenly think it's
>> "gross" now, but it wasn't "gross" to your parents or my grandparents,
>> and prior generations.
>
> People did a lot of things in the past that we don't do know. I just
> can't recall the last time I threw the contents of the chamberpot
> out the window.
>
LOL! Sorry, I just now read this reply and I really did laugh out loud!

Jill

On 2/3/2024 7:56 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 1/30/2024 6:23 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 1/30/2024 12:29 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
>>>
>>> That is, if one doesn't mind wasting that extra water.  I can get
>>> three loads of wash out of one tub of suds water in the wringer
>>> washer.  Rinse water is standing in the soapstone/concrete laundry tub.
>>
>> Do you really think you're getting your clothes clean using the same
>> sudsy wash water (and the same rinse water in the laundry tub) three
>> times over? I don't even want to think about bath time at your house.
>
> When my siblings and I were very young, we shared bath water.  I think
> most parents did this.  The 7 and 9 year old here are beyond that now.
> Point is, no, I don't live like 19th century farmers did where everyone
> shared the same bath water once per week, in case you were concerned.
>
I was being facetious about that. My two older brothers probably were
bathed together when they were little, at the same time. If I was later
dunked in the same tub of water I sure don't remember it but it's possible.

> Yes, the clothes all come out smelling and looking clean.  I usually
> wash rugs, work clothes, or other soiled stuff in the last wash load.
> You seem to forget that people lived like this, reusing suds water on
> wash day, for many years.  I don't know why people suddenly think it's
> "gross" now, but it wasn't "gross" to your parents or my grandparents,
> and prior generations.
>
I haven't forgotten. There's a reason later generations came up with
better methods for many things. My parents may have taken baths in the
same bath water as children during the Depression but they didn't keep
doing it after they grew up.

>>> I can easily tell if I used too much detergent, because if I use the
>>> right amount, the rinse water won't be sudsy at all until all three
>>> loads are rinsed.  I do "cheat" and toss the rinsed clothes back into
>>> the mostly broken automatic washer, and use the "spin" cycle before
>>> drying them.
>>
>> "Cheating" is an odd word to use. Do you feel guilty using the spin
>> cycle?
>
> That was my attempt at humor.  In reality, the wringer washer works
> really well to clean, but it does a poor job removing water from
> clothes.  Straight from the wringer, very damp clothes would be in the
> electric clothes dryer nearly twice as long.

No kidding. The wringer doesn't wring out all the water? Surprise!
Again, there's a reason people moved on to washing machines with a spin
cycle. :)

Jill

On 2/3/2024 6:26 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> On 2024-02-03, Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
>>> On 1/30/2024 6:23 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 1/30/2024 12:29 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> That is, if one doesn't mind wasting that extra water. I can get
>>>>> three loads of wash out of one tub of suds water in the wringer
>>>>> washer. Rinse water is standing in the soapstone/concrete
>> laundry tub.
>>>>
>>>> Do you really think you're getting your clothes clean using the
>> same >> sudsy wash water (and the same rinse water in the laundry
>> tub) three >> times over? I don't even want to think about bath time
>> at your house.
>>>
>>> When my siblings and I were very young, we shared bath water. I
>>> think most parents did this. The 7 and 9 year old here are beyond
>>> that now. Point is, no, I don't live like 19th century farmers did
>>> where everyone shared the same bath water once per week, in case
>>> you were concerned.
>>>
>>> Yes, the clothes all come out smelling and looking clean. I
>>> usually wash rugs, work clothes, or other soiled stuff in the last
>>> wash load. You seem to forget that people lived like this, reusing
>>> suds water on wash day, for many years. I don't know why people
>>> suddenly think it's "gross" now, but it wasn't "gross" to your
>>> parents or my grandparents, and prior generations.
>>
>> People did a lot of things in the past that we don't do know. I just
>> can't recall the last time I threw the contents of the chamberpot
>> out the window.
>
> 1979 for me. Camping in the smokies in winter with Bill. Long before
> meeting Don. Loads of fun but damn cold!

You had a chamber pot when camping? Should have dug a pit for a latrine. ;)

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> On 2/3/2024 6:26 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-02-03, Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
>>>> On 1/30/2024 6:23 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> On 1/30/2024 12:29 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is, if one doesn't mind wasting that extra water.  I
>>>>>> can get
>>>>>> three loads of wash out of one tub of suds water in the
>>>>>> wringer
>>>>>> washer.  Rinse water is standing in the soapstone/concrete
>>> laundry tub.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you really think you're getting your clothes clean
>>>>> using the
>>> same >> sudsy wash water (and the same rinse water in the
>>> laundry
>>> tub) three >> times over? I don't even want to think about
>>> bath time
>>> at your house.
>>>>
>>>> When my siblings and I were very young, we shared bath
>>>> water.  I
>>>> think most parents did this.  The 7 and 9 year old here are
>>>> beyond
>>>> that now.  Point is, no, I don't live like 19th century
>>>> farmers did
>>>> where everyone shared the same bath water once per week, in
>>>> case
>>>> you were concerned.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, the clothes all come out smelling and looking clean.  I
>>>> usually wash rugs, work clothes, or other soiled stuff in
>>>> the last
>>>> wash load.  You seem to forget that people lived like this,
>>>> reusing
>>>> suds water on wash day, for many years.  I don't know why
>>>> people
>>>> suddenly think it's "gross" now, but it wasn't "gross" to your
>>>> parents or my grandparents, and prior generations.
>>>
>>> People did a lot of things in the past that we don't do
>>> know.  I just
>>> can't recall the last time I threw the contents of the
>>> chamberpot
>>> out the window.
>>
>> 1979 for me.  Camping in the smokies in winter with Bill.
>> Long before
>> meeting Don.  Loads of fun but damn cold!
>
> You had a chamber pot when camping?  Should have dug a pit for
> a latrine. ;)
>
> Jill

Is that what Popeye did when you were dating him?

On 2024-02-07 7:22 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 2/3/2024 6:26 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>>> People did a lot of things in the past that we don't do know.  I just
>>> can't recall the last time I threw the contents of the chamberpot
>>> out the window.
>>
>> 1979 for me.  Camping in the smokies in winter with Bill. Long before
>> meeting Don.  Loads of fun but damn cold!
>
> You had a chamber pot when camping?  Should have dug a pit for a
> latrine. ;)
>

It is hard to dig a latrine when the ground is frozen.

Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2024-02-07 7:22 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> On 2/3/2024 6:26 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>>>> People did a lot of things in the past that we don't do
>>>> know.  I just
>>>> can't recall the last time I threw the contents of the
>>>> chamberpot
>>>> out the window.
>>>
>>> 1979 for me.  Camping in the smokies in winter with Bill.
>>> Long before
>>> meeting Don.  Loads of fun but damn cold!
>>
>> You had a chamber pot when camping?  Should have dug a pit
>> for a latrine. ;)
>>
>
> It is hard to dig a latrine when the ground is frozen.
>
>

It's no problem, when it's 50 below zero, canadians just shit
and piss on the ground. It freezes solid within minutes and has
no smell till spring.

But they usually find something else to whine about.

In article <lZVwN.308713$7sbb.193026@fx16.iad>,
adavid.smith@sympatico.ca says...
>
> On 2024-02-07 7:22 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> > On 2/3/2024 6:26 PM, cshenk wrote:
> >> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> >>> People did a lot of things in the past that we don't do know.  I just
> >>> can't recall the last time I threw the contents of the chamberpot
> >>> out the window.
> >>
> >> 1979 for me.  Camping in the smokies in winter with Bill. Long before
> >> meeting Don.  Loads of fun but damn cold!
> >
> > You had a chamber pot when camping?  Should have dug a pit for a
> > latrine. ;)
> >
>
> It is hard to dig a latrine when the ground is frozen.

Then just pee on the ground, like normal people.

Janet UK

On 2024-02-08 11:14 a.m., Janet wrote:
> In article <lZVwN.308713$7sbb.193026@fx16.iad>,
> adavid.smith@sympatico.ca says...
>>
>> On 2024-02-07 7:22 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 2/3/2024 6:26 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>>>> People did a lot of things in the past that we don't do know.  I just
>>>>> can't recall the last time I threw the contents of the chamberpot
>>>>> out the window.
>>>>
>>>> 1979 for me.  Camping in the smokies in winter with Bill. Long before
>>>> meeting Don.  Loads of fun but damn cold!
>>>
>>> You had a chamber pot when camping?  Should have dug a pit for a
>>> latrine. ;)
>>>
>>
>> It is hard to dig a latrine when the ground is frozen.
>
> Then just pee on the ground, like normal people.
>

I wonder how many people could be out camping for several days without
having to do more than just pee.

In article <ei7xN.217323$vFZa.21746@fx13.iad>,
adavid.smith@sympatico.ca says...
>
> On 2024-02-08 11:14 a.m., Janet wrote:
> > In article <lZVwN.308713$7sbb.193026@fx16.iad>,
> > adavid.smith@sympatico.ca says...
> >>
> >> On 2024-02-07 7:22 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> >>> On 2/3/2024 6:26 PM, cshenk wrote:
> >>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>
> >>>>> People did a lot of things in the past that we don't do know.  I just
> >>>>> can't recall the last time I threw the contents of the chamberpot
> >>>>> out the window.
> >>>>
> >>>> 1979 for me.  Camping in the smokies in winter with Bill. Long before
> >>>> meeting Don.  Loads of fun but damn cold!
> >>>
> >>> You had a chamber pot when camping?  Should have dug a pit for a
> >>> latrine. ;)
> >>>
> >>
> >> It is hard to dig a latrine when the ground is frozen.
> >
> > Then just pee on the ground, like normal people.
> >
>
> I wonder how many people could be out camping for several days without
> having to do more than just pee.

I shit in the woods, like bears. Or on the mountain, like
eagles, or in the sand like camels. Like cats, I dig a
small hole first and cover it after.

I've never taken a chamberpot for shitting in when
camping. That would only be necessary for the kind of
person who shits in the tent and throws the shit out of
the tent door. Is that common in America?

Janet UK

Janet wrote:
> In article <ei7xN.217323$vFZa.21746@fx13.iad>,
> adavid.smith@sympatico.ca says...
....
>> I wonder how many people could be out camping for several days without
>> having to do more than just pee.
>
> I shit in the woods, like bears. Or on the mountain, like
> eagles, or in the sand like camels. Like cats, I dig a
> small hole first and cover it after.
>
> I've never taken a chamberpot for shitting in when
> camping. That would only be necessary for the kind of
> person who shits in the tent and throws the shit out of
> the tent door. Is that common in America?

not really, but it happens, if you've ever tent camped
in the winter and had to deal with -20F you might find
a reason to have a can with a lid available. also some
parks now require people to carry out their waste instead
of burying it because of the damage it can do to the
plants, animals, water and soil conditions.

if you've ever done rock climbing you'd also notice it
can be very hard to dig a trench... baggies, wipes and
pack it out is often the better answer.

songbird

On 2/8/2024 1:27 PM, songbird wrote:
> Janet wrote:
>> In article <ei7xN.217323$vFZa.21746@fx13.iad>,
>> adavid.smith@sympatico.ca says...
> ...
>>> I wonder how many people could be out camping for several days without
>>> having to do more than just pee.
>>
>> I shit in the woods, like bears. Or on the mountain, like
>> eagles, or in the sand like camels. Like cats, I dig a
>> small hole first and cover it after.
>>
>> I've never taken a chamberpot for shitting in when
>> camping. That would only be necessary for the kind of
>> person who shits in the tent and throws the shit out of
>> the tent door. Is that common in America?
>
> not really, but it happens, if you've ever tent camped
> in the winter and had to deal with -20F you might find
> a reason to have a can with a lid available. also some
> parks now require people to carry out their waste instead
> of burying it because of the damage it can do to the
> plants, animals, water and soil conditions.
>
> if you've ever done rock climbing you'd also notice it
> can be very hard to dig a trench... baggies, wipes and
> pack it out is often the better answer.
>
>
> songbird

I was thinking of trying rock climbing. You mean there is no porcelain
fixture at the top? Looks like I need a different hobby.

Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2024-02-08 11:14 a.m., Janet wrote:
>> In article <lZVwN.308713$7sbb.193026@fx16.iad>,
>> adavid.smith@sympatico.ca says...
>>>
>>> On 2024-02-07 7:22 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 2/3/2024 6:26 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> People did a lot of things in the past that we don't do
>>>>>> know.  I just
>>>>>> can't recall the last time I threw the contents of the
>>>>>> chamberpot
>>>>>> out the window.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1979 for me.  Camping in the smokies in winter with Bill.
>>>>> Long before
>>>>> meeting Don.  Loads of fun but damn cold!
>>>>
>>>> You had a chamber pot when camping?  Should have dug a pit
>>>> for a
>>>> latrine. ;)
>>>>
>>>
>>> It is hard to dig a latrine when the ground is frozen.
>>
>>   Then just pee on the ground, like normal people.
>>
>
> I wonder how many people could be out camping for several days
> without having to do more than just pee.
>

Easy. Just shit on the ground, wait 10 seconds till the turd
freezes hard, and kick it away.

In article <61jf9k-36b.ln1@anthive.com>,
songbird@anthive.com says...
>
> Janet wrote:
> > In article <ei7xN.217323$vFZa.21746@fx13.iad>,
> > adavid.smith@sympatico.ca says...
> ...
> >> I wonder how many people could be out camping for several days without
> >> having to do more than just pee.
> >
> > I shit in the woods, like bears. Or on the mountain, like
> > eagles, or in the sand like camels. Like cats, I dig a
> > small hole first and cover it after.
> >
> > I've never taken a chamberpot for shitting in when
> > camping. That would only be necessary for the kind of
> > person who shits in the tent and throws the shit out of
> > the tent door. Is that common in America?
>
> not really, but it happens, if you've ever tent camped
> in the winter

often

>and had to deal with -20F.
I have experienced temperatures that low, but had the
sense not to go camping.

> some
> parks now require people to carry out their waste instead
> of burying it because of the damage it can do to the
> plants, animals, water and soil conditions.

We encountered that in outback Australia (they are
rightly,very hot on biosecurity). I see Mount Everest is
introducing the same rule.
> if you've ever done rock climbing you'd also notice it
> can be very hard to dig a trench... baggies, wipes and
> pack it out is often the better answer.

I met my husband rock climbing. Neither of us ever
needed to shit while on the end of a rope. It's a rare
rock face that has no crevices...

Janet UK

jmcquown wrote:

> On 2/3/2024 6:26 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> >>On 2024-02-03, Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
> > > > On 1/30/2024 6:23 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> > > > > On 1/30/2024 12:29 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That is, if one doesn't mind wasting that extra water. I
> > > > > > can get three loads of wash out of one tub of suds water in
> > > > > > the wringer washer. Rinse water is standing in the
> > > > > > soapstone/concrete
> > > laundry tub.
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you really think you're getting your clothes clean using
> > > > > the
> >>same >> sudsy wash water (and the same rinse water in the laundry
> >>tub) three >> times over? I don't even want to think about bath time
> > > at your house.
> > > >
> > > > When my siblings and I were very young, we shared bath water. I
> > > > think most parents did this. The 7 and 9 year old here are
> > > > beyond that now. Point is, no, I don't live like 19th century
> > > > farmers did where everyone shared the same bath water once per
> > > > week, in case you were concerned.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, the clothes all come out smelling and looking clean. I
> > > > usually wash rugs, work clothes, or other soiled stuff in the
> > > > last wash load. You seem to forget that people lived like
> > > > this, reusing suds water on wash day, for many years. I don't
> > > > know why people suddenly think it's "gross" now, but it wasn't
> > > > "gross" to your parents or my grandparents, and prior
> > > > generations.
> > >
> > > People did a lot of things in the past that we don't do know. I
> > > just can't recall the last time I threw the contents of the
> > > chamberpot out the window.
> >
> > 1979 for me. Camping in the smokies in winter with Bill. Long
> > before meeting Don. Loads of fun but damn cold!
>
> You had a chamber pot when camping? Should have dug a pit for a
> latrine. ;)
>
> Jill

Yes, we had one. It was extremely cold in the cabin but colder
outside. The toilet wasn't working (taped off with a warning). We
slept on the floor in front of the fireplace. Ladies went to the left
of the building, guys to the right but when it got too cold that night,
chamber pot time!

On 2024-02-08, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

> You had a chamber pot when camping? Should have dug a pit for a latrine. ;)

During rough camping with the boys, when one wandered off with a shovel,
nobody asked where he was going. ;)

leo

On 2/8/2024 5:17 PM, cshenk wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 2/3/2024 6:26 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-02-03, Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
>>>>> On 1/30/2024 6:23 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/30/2024 12:29 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is, if one doesn't mind wasting that extra water. I
>>>>>>> can get three loads of wash out of one tub of suds water in
>>>>>>> the wringer washer. Rinse water is standing in the
>>>>>>> soapstone/concrete
>>>> laundry tub.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you really think you're getting your clothes clean using
>>>>>> the
>>>> same >> sudsy wash water (and the same rinse water in the laundry
>>>> tub) three >> times over? I don't even want to think about bath time
>>>> at your house.
>>>>>
>>>>> When my siblings and I were very young, we shared bath water. I
>>>>> think most parents did this. The 7 and 9 year old here are
>>>>> beyond that now. Point is, no, I don't live like 19th century
>>>>> farmers did where everyone shared the same bath water once per
>>>>> week, in case you were concerned.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, the clothes all come out smelling and looking clean. I
>>>>> usually wash rugs, work clothes, or other soiled stuff in the
>>>>> last wash load. You seem to forget that people lived like
>>>>> this, reusing suds water on wash day, for many years. I don't
>>>>> know why people suddenly think it's "gross" now, but it wasn't
>>>>> "gross" to your parents or my grandparents, and prior
>>>>> generations.
>>>>
>>>> People did a lot of things in the past that we don't do know. I
>>>> just can't recall the last time I threw the contents of the
>>>> chamberpot out the window.
>>>
>>> 1979 for me. Camping in the smokies in winter with Bill. Long
>>> before meeting Don. Loads of fun but damn cold!
>>
>> You had a chamber pot when camping? Should have dug a pit for a
>> latrine. ;)
>>
>> Jill
>
> Yes, we had one. It was extremely cold in the cabin but colder
> outside. The toilet wasn't working (taped off with a warning). We
> slept on the floor in front of the fireplace. Ladies went to the left
> of the building, guys to the right but when it got too cold that night,
> chamber pot time!

Ohhhhh, you were in a cabin! with a toilet that wasn't working. Now it
makes more sense to have a chamber pot. I was thinking tents in the
woods camping.

Jill

On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 12:49:24 PM UTC-10, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> On 2024-02-08, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > You had a chamber pot when camping? Should have dug a pit for a latrine.. ;)
> During rough camping with the boys, when one wandered off with a shovel,
> nobody asked where he was going. ;)
>
> leo

My dad once expressed regret that I lived such a sheltered life. Indeed, I have never shat in the woods. I guess you can't say that about your kids. Hee hee.

Ed P wrote:
> On 2/8/2024 1:27 PM, songbird wrote:
>> Janet wrote:
>>> In article <ei7xN.217323$vFZa.21746@fx13.iad>,
>>> adavid.smith@sympatico.ca says...
>> ...
>>>> I wonder how many people could be out camping for several days without
>>>> having to do more than just pee.
>>>
>>> I shit in the woods, like bears. Or on the mountain, like
>>> eagles, or in the sand like camels. Like cats, I dig a
>>> small hole first and cover it after.
>>>
>>> I've never taken a chamberpot for shitting in when
>>> camping. That would only be necessary for the kind of
>>> person who shits in the tent and throws the shit out of
>>> the tent door. Is that common in America?
>>
>> not really, but it happens, if you've ever tent camped
>> in the winter and had to deal with -20F you might find
>> a reason to have a can with a lid available. also some
>> parks now require people to carry out their waste instead
>> of burying it because of the damage it can do to the
>> plants, animals, water and soil conditions.
>>
>> if you've ever done rock climbing you'd also notice it
>> can be very hard to dig a trench... baggies, wipes and
>> pack it out is often the better answer.
>>
>>
>> songbird
>
> I was thinking of trying rock climbing. You mean there is no porcelain
> fixture at the top? Looks like I need a different hobby.

i have a screwed up shoulder so no i could not tell you
what is up there because i've never made it to the top. :)

i do however read about mountain climbing and some people
actually camp on the sides of rocky mountain sides while
they are climbing if they can't find a better spot.

sometimes i learn about things i'll never attempt because
it's important to have empathy and i can usually learn some
interesting viewpoints.

songbird

In article <_adxN.276832$Ama9.150309@fx12.iad>,
j_mcquown@comcast.net says...
> >>>> People did a lot of things in the past that we don't do know. I
> >>>> just can't recall the last time I threw the contents of the
> >>>> chamberpot out the window.

carol wrote
> >>>
> >>> 1979 for me. Camping in the smokies in winter with Bill. Long
> >>> before meeting Don. Loads of fun but damn cold!
> >>
> >> You had a chamber pot when camping? Should have dug a pit for a
> >> latrine. ;)
> >>
> >> Jill
> >
> > Yes, we had one. It was extremely cold in the cabin but colder
> > outside. The toilet wasn't working (taped off with a warning). We
> > slept on the floor in front of the fireplace. Ladies went to the left
> > of the building, guys to the right but when it got too cold that night,
> > chamber pot time!
>
> Ohhhhh, you were in a cabin! with a toilet that wasn't working. Now it
> makes more sense to have a chamber pot. I was thinking tents in the
> woods camping.

Another thread derailed by Cshenk's poor understanding
of the meaning of words, like "camping",

You'd have to wonder why she packed a chamber pot for a
trip to stay in a communal cabin with a toilet.

JanetUK

On 2024-02-09 7:37 a.m., Janet wrote:
> In article <_adxN.276832$Ama9.150309@fx12.iad>,
> j_mcquown@comcast.net says...

>> Ohhhhh, you were in a cabin! with a toilet that wasn't working. Now it
>> makes more sense to have a chamber pot. I was thinking tents in the
>> woods camping.
>
> Another thread derailed by Cshenk's poor understanding
> of the meaning of words, like "camping",
>
> You'd have to wonder why she packed a chamber pot for a
> trip to stay in a communal cabin with a toilet.
>
>

Word meanings vary from one place to another. A lot of people in
southern Ontario have vacation properties on or near lakes further
north. They call them cottages and they go to the cottage. People in
northern Ontario and in some other parts of the country have similar
cottages but they go to the camp. For them, camping is staying at a
rustic cottage.

On a side note. My late BiL had a lady friend who had a cottage on an
island on a lake in Algonquin Park. She invited us to come and stay for
a few days. I was leery because the woman was a loony and I thought it
involved an outhouse and quite frankly, my outhouse and crapping over a
log days were long over. She assured us that she had chemical several
toilets. I might add that this was early June when the mosquitoes were
at their height. I was not thrilled to wake up in the middle of the
night with as serious need to crap. I headed off to the toilet she had
so proudly shown us upon removal. It turned out that she was not
thrilled that I had used it. I was told that adults should know when
they have to have a bowel movement and should go out into the woods to
find a log to sit on.

We declined the next invitation to the cottage.

Dave Smith wrote :

> On a side note. My late BiL had a lady friend who had a cottage on an
> island on a lake in Algonquin Park. She invited us to come and stay for
> a few days. I was leery because the woman was a loony and I thought it
> involved an outhouse and quite frankly, my outhouse and crapping over a
> log days were long over. She assured us that she had chemical several
> toilets. I might add that this was early June when the mosquitoes were
> at their height. I was not thrilled to wake up in the middle of the
> night with as serious need to crap. I headed off to the toilet she had
> so proudly shown us upon removal. It turned out that she was not
> thrilled that I had used it. I was told that adults should know when
> they have to have a bowel movement and should go out into the woods to
> find a log to sit on.
>
> We declined the next invitation to the cottage.

The most humane response you could've given her.

Guess I don't understandd why she's got chemical toilets if she only
uses them for #1. I'd be more inclined to go the other way, #1 in the
woods, #2 in the toilet. Have had some very memorable views from a
groover.

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