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 by: George Sulzbach - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 20:28 UTC

Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 15:03:04 -0500, George Sulzbach
> <g.sulzbach@myplace.net> wrote:
>
>> Bruce wrote:
>>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 12:12:49 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2024, Bruce wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Trump zombies don't trust science and don't believe in facts, I know.
>>>>> They live in a reality of their own making.
>>>>
>>>> Why do you call him Trump zombie? He did not call you a Biden zombie.
>>>
>>> Trump followers are zombies. The Zombie Apocalypse has started in the
>>> US.
>>> <https://static.independent.co.uk/2021/11/17/19/CAPITOLIO-ASALTANTE-SENTENCIA_12846.jpg?quality=75&width=990&crop=3%3A2%2Csmart&auto=webp>
>>>
>> You may need to start wondering if the Orange man
>> likes Aussie people, or not.
>
> Why does that matter?
>
>
Trump says if he's elected again the USA won't protect any
Country that doesn't pay its military protection dues, as
there are some delinquent accounts now.

Are you folks current?

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On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 15:28:37 -0500, George Sulzbach
<g.sulzbach@myplace.net> wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 15:03:04 -0500, George Sulzbach
>> <g.sulzbach@myplace.net> wrote:
>>
>>> You may need to start wondering if the Orange man
>>> likes Aussie people, or not.
>>
>> Why does that matter?
>>
>Trump says if he's elected again the USA won't protect any
>Country that doesn't pay its military protection dues, as
>there are some delinquent accounts now.
>
>Are you folks current?

Yes. But apart from that, what if the Baltic states are behind? Will
the orange moron just give them to Putin? The UK's going through a
recession. What if they're behind on their payments (which are not
payments to the US, by the way)? Is Putin welcome to take it? Why
weaken NATO by making such retarded statements?

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Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 15:28:37 -0500, George Sulzbach
> <g.sulzbach@myplace.net> wrote:
>
>> Bruce wrote:
>>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 15:03:04 -0500, George Sulzbach
>>> <g.sulzbach@myplace.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You may need to start wondering if the Orange man
>>>> likes Aussie people, or not.
>>>
>>> Why does that matter?
>>>
>> Trump says if he's elected again the USA won't protect any
>> Country that doesn't pay its military protection dues, as
>> there are some delinquent accounts now.
>>
>> Are you folks current?
>
> Yes. But apart from that, what if the Baltic states are behind? Will
> the orange moron just give them to Putin? The UK's going through a
> recession. What if they're behind on their payments (which are not
> payments to the US, by the way)? Is Putin welcome to take it? Why
> weaken NATO by making such retarded statements?
>
>
I think you already know no one really knows what might
happen if the Orange man is in charge again, I'm just
paraphrasing what he said is *part* of his plan.

There's very many white American people that agree with
*some* of what he says.

I wish my choices were better than an old guy that seems
to be somewhat of a puppet, and a lying criminal. :-)

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 by: Cindy Hamilton - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 21:02 UTC

On 2024-02-24, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 15:28:37 -0500, George Sulzbach
><g.sulzbach@myplace.net> wrote:
>
>>Bruce wrote:
>>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 15:03:04 -0500, George Sulzbach
>>> <g.sulzbach@myplace.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You may need to start wondering if the Orange man
>>>> likes Aussie people, or not.
>>>
>>> Why does that matter?
>>>
>>Trump says if he's elected again the USA won't protect any
>>Country that doesn't pay its military protection dues, as
>>there are some delinquent accounts now.
>>
>>Are you folks current?
>
> Yes. But apart from that, what if the Baltic states are behind? Will
> the orange moron just give them to Putin? The UK's going through a
> recession. What if they're behind on their payments (which are not
> payments to the US, by the way)? Is Putin welcome to take it? Why
> weaken NATO by making such retarded statements?

Because Trump does not give half a fuck for anybody but himself.

--
Cindy Hamilton

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 by: Bruce - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 21:09 UTC

On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 15:49:53 -0500, George Sulzbach
<g.sulzbach@myplace.net> wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> Yes. But apart from that, what if the Baltic states are behind? Will
>> the orange moron just give them to Putin? The UK's going through a
>> recession. What if they're behind on their payments (which are not
>> payments to the US, by the way)? Is Putin welcome to take it? Why
>> weaken NATO by making such retarded statements?
>>
>I think you already know no one really knows what might
>happen if the Orange man is in charge again, I'm just
>paraphrasing what he said is *part* of his plan.
>
>There's very many white American people that agree with
>*some* of what he says.
>
>I wish my choices were better than an old guy that seems
>to be somewhat of a puppet, and a lying criminal. :-)

A lying criminal? Oh wait, you're another candidate for the Fox News
Award.

But I agree with you about one thing. Is old Joe Biden really the best
candidate the Democrats could come up with? Of course, everybody's
better than Trump, but they had years to find a fitter, younger
Democrat. Was there nobody at all?

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 by: Bruce - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 21:10 UTC

On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 21:02:53 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
<hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

>On 2024-02-24, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 15:28:37 -0500, George Sulzbach
>><g.sulzbach@myplace.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Trump says if he's elected again the USA won't protect any
>>>Country that doesn't pay its military protection dues, as
>>>there are some delinquent accounts now.
>>>
>>>Are you folks current?
>>
>> Yes. But apart from that, what if the Baltic states are behind? Will
>> the orange moron just give them to Putin? The UK's going through a
>> recession. What if they're behind on their payments (which are not
>> payments to the US, by the way)? Is Putin welcome to take it? Why
>> weaken NATO by making such retarded statements?
>
>Because Trump does not give half a fuck for anybody but himself.

Why is that obvious to you and me, but 50% of American voters can't
see it?

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 by: George Sulzbach - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 21:17 UTC

Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 15:49:53 -0500, George Sulzbach
> <g.sulzbach@myplace.net> wrote:
>
>> Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes. But apart from that, what if the Baltic states are behind? Will
>>> the orange moron just give them to Putin? The UK's going through a
>>> recession. What if they're behind on their payments (which are not
>>> payments to the US, by the way)? Is Putin welcome to take it? Why
>>> weaken NATO by making such retarded statements?
>>>
>> I think you already know no one really knows what might
>> happen if the Orange man is in charge again, I'm just
>> paraphrasing what he said is *part* of his plan.
>>
>> There's very many white American people that agree with
>> *some* of what he says.
>>
>> I wish my choices were better than an old guy that seems
>> to be somewhat of a puppet, and a lying criminal. :-)
>
> A lying criminal? Oh wait, you're another candidate for the Fox News
> Award.
>
>
I was describing the Orange man, not Biden. I should have added
old to the lying criminal reference, my bad, they're both old
fucks.
>
>
> But I agree with you about one thing. Is old Joe Biden really the best
> candidate the Democrats could come up with? Of course, everybody's
> better than Trump, but they had years to find a fitter, younger
> Democrat. Was there nobody at all?
>
>
You'd sure think so, and having Kamala one heart beat away from
being in charge isn't exactly comforting to some folks.

When you think about it, when was the last time you really
endorsed a politician, I mean put on the bumper sticker
kind of guy?

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 by: Bruce - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 21:51 UTC

On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 16:17:27 -0500, George Sulzbach
<g.sulzbach@myplace.net> wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 15:49:53 -0500, George Sulzbach
>> <g.sulzbach@myplace.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I wish my choices were better than an old guy that seems
>>> to be somewhat of a puppet, and a lying criminal. :-)
>>
>> A lying criminal? Oh wait, you're another candidate for the Fox News
>> Award.
>>
>I was describing the Orange man, not Biden. I should have added
>old to the lying criminal reference, my bad, they're both old
>fucks.

Oh, sorry.

>> But I agree with you about one thing. Is old Joe Biden really the best
>> candidate the Democrats could come up with? Of course, everybody's
>> better than Trump, but they had years to find a fitter, younger
>> Democrat. Was there nobody at all?
>>
>You'd sure think so, and having Kamala one heart beat away from
>being in charge isn't exactly comforting to some folks.

There must have been someone safer, more middle of the road. Buttigieg
perhaps, but maybe the US can't handle a gay president yet. You don't
want to lose 15% of potential votes to homophobia.

>When you think about it, when was the last time you really
>endorsed a politician, I mean put on the bumper sticker
>kind of guy?

I think I'd have to go back to the late 70s.

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 by: lucre...@florence.it - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 21:57 UTC

On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 21:02:53 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
<hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

>On 2024-02-24, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 15:28:37 -0500, George Sulzbach
>><g.sulzbach@myplace.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 15:03:04 -0500, George Sulzbach
>>>> <g.sulzbach@myplace.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You may need to start wondering if the Orange man
>>>>> likes Aussie people, or not.
>>>>
>>>> Why does that matter?
>>>>
>>>Trump says if he's elected again the USA won't protect any
>>>Country that doesn't pay its military protection dues, as
>>>there are some delinquent accounts now.
>>>
>>>Are you folks current?
>>
>> Yes. But apart from that, what if the Baltic states are behind? Will
>> the orange moron just give them to Putin? The UK's going through a
>> recession. What if they're behind on their payments (which are not
>> payments to the US, by the way)? Is Putin welcome to take it? Why
>> weaken NATO by making such retarded statements?
>
>Because Trump does not give half a fuck for anybody but himself.

I agree whole heartedly but was stunned to hear even him compare
himself with Alexe Navalgny - he wouldn't be worth even a toe nail
clipping from Navalgny.

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 by: lucre...@florence.it - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 21:58 UTC

On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 08:09:18 +1100, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 15:49:53 -0500, George Sulzbach
><g.sulzbach@myplace.net> wrote:
>
>>Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes. But apart from that, what if the Baltic states are behind? Will
>>> the orange moron just give them to Putin? The UK's going through a
>>> recession. What if they're behind on their payments (which are not
>>> payments to the US, by the way)? Is Putin welcome to take it? Why
>>> weaken NATO by making such retarded statements?
>>>
>>I think you already know no one really knows what might
>>happen if the Orange man is in charge again, I'm just
>>paraphrasing what he said is *part* of his plan.
>>
>>There's very many white American people that agree with
>>*some* of what he says.
>>
>>I wish my choices were better than an old guy that seems
>>to be somewhat of a puppet, and a lying criminal. :-)
>
>A lying criminal? Oh wait, you're another candidate for the Fox News
>Award.
>
>But I agree with you about one thing. Is old Joe Biden really the best
>candidate the Democrats could come up with? Of course, everybody's
>better than Trump, but they had years to find a fitter, younger
>Democrat. Was there nobody at all?

I had hoped when Biden was elected he intended to groom Kamala for
this election, but I guess not. He has kept her in obscurity.

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 by: Bruce - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 22:00 UTC

On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 17:57:04 -0400, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

>On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 21:02:53 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
><hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2024-02-24, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>>> Yes. But apart from that, what if the Baltic states are behind? Will
>>> the orange moron just give them to Putin? The UK's going through a
>>> recession. What if they're behind on their payments (which are not
>>> payments to the US, by the way)? Is Putin welcome to take it? Why
>>> weaken NATO by making such retarded statements?
>>
>>Because Trump does not give half a fuck for anybody but himself.
>
>I agree whole heartedly but was stunned to hear even him compare
>himself with Alexe Navalgny - he wouldn't be worth even a toe nail
>clipping from Navalgny.

Unfortunately, most Trump zombies probably don't know who Navalny is,
so they won't realise how insane that statement is.

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 by: Leonard Blaisdell - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 22:02 UTC

On 2024-02-24, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

> Incidentally, crime is considerably down since 1990.
> https://www.statista.com/statistics/191219/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990/

Isn't it amazing how statistics can be manipulated by altering the
criteria of what constitutes a crime? Your politicians need you to
believe that they're doing great. They aren't.

> You're the one who introduced talk of crime. I rarely think of it,
> although you seem to dwell on it. It's not your fault, Leo. It's
> the way your brain is constructed.

Probably. The first concept of government is to protect those governed.
That's how one knows how they're doing. Not too good by my reckoning.
Have you learned Spanish yet?

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 by: Leonard Blaisdell - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 22:10 UTC

On 2024-02-24, heyjoe <address@is.invalid> wrote:

> Am looking forward to the 2024 Democratic National Convention in
> Chicago, IL. Can't wait to see the reaction when Big Money fails to
> support Biden for the nomination. Expect chaos will reign in the
> convention and the streets.

Frankly, I expect chaos at both conventions. I'll be surprised if there
aren't one or two new third-parties created between now and the
election. If it's Biden vs. Trump in the General, I'll be shocked.
We live in interesting times, and we're forced to stay tuned.

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 by: Ed P - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 22:17 UTC

On 2/24/2024 4:58 PM, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 08:09:18 +1100, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>

>>
>> But I agree with you about one thing. Is old Joe Biden really the best
>> candidate the Democrats could come up with? Of course, everybody's
>> better than Trump, but they had years to find a fitter, younger
>> Democrat. Was there nobody at all?
>
> I had hoped when Biden was elected he intended to groom Kamala for
> this election, but I guess not. He has kept her in obscurity.

That may be the best thing to do. She has never impressed me. He could
have done better.

Sadly, there is no one from either party that I'd really want to vote
for. Healy may be the best of the pathetic bunch.

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 by: Ed P - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 22:21 UTC

On 2/24/2024 4:10 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 21:02:53 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
> <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2024-02-24, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 15:28:37 -0500, George Sulzbach
>>> <g.sulzbach@myplace.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Trump says if he's elected again the USA won't protect any
>>>> Country that doesn't pay its military protection dues, as
>>>> there are some delinquent accounts now.
>>>>
>>>> Are you folks current?
>>>
>>> Yes. But apart from that, what if the Baltic states are behind? Will
>>> the orange moron just give them to Putin? The UK's going through a
>>> recession. What if they're behind on their payments (which are not
>>> payments to the US, by the way)? Is Putin welcome to take it? Why
>>> weaken NATO by making such retarded statements?
>>
>> Because Trump does not give half a fuck for anybody but himself.
>
> Why is that obvious to you and me, but 50% of American voters can't
> see it?

Talking with a friend this morning, we discussed that. What makes some
people so attractive to others? What charisma do they have?

Not just politicians, the news had Joel Osteen on about the shooting at
his church. He creeps me out just looking at him but people donate lots
of money to him.

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 by: Leonard Blaisdell - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 22:28 UTC

On 2024-02-24, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 25 Feb 2024, Bruce wrote:

>> Leo and "D", two peas in a Fox News pod.

> Thank you for the valuable contribution. That is noted!

Welcome to the "Pod", D. You'll notice that the furniture is exquisite
and our menu is top of the line. Here's your membership card to the
cognoscenti. You've earned it. ;)

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 by: GM - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 22:26 UTC

Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

> On 2024-02-24, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

>> Incidentally, crime is considerably down since 1990.
>> https://www.statista.com/statistics/191219/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990/

> Isn't it amazing how statistics can be manipulated by altering the
> criteria of what constitutes a crime? Your politicians need you to
> believe that they're doing great. They aren't.

>> You're the one who introduced talk of crime. I rarely think of it,
>> although you seem to dwell on it. It's not your fault, Leo. It's
>> the way your brain is constructed.

> Probably. The first concept of government is to protect those governed.
> That's how one knows how they're doing. Not too good by my reckoning.
> Have you learned Spanish yet?

Cindy is "prevaricating", she might as well have said:

"Incidentally, the indidence of cholera is considerably down since 1900..."

People aren't looking at the crime rate a generation ago, they are looking primarily at the
pre - Covid crime rate and it's rise since then, that *directly* affects them. An article with some stats:

"Despite the 13% drop in homicides, Chicago’s major crimes jumped by a total of 16% in 2023... Robberies were up 23%. Aggravated batteries, up 6%. Thefts and criminal sexual assaults were both up 3% each. And motor vehicle thefts spiked by 37% to reach a total of nearly 30,000 car thefts. And all that was after major crimes had already jumped 40% between 2022 and 2021..."

Chicago led nation in homicides for 12th year in a row in 2023, murder rate still 5 times higher than NYC’s – Wirepoints

https://wirepoints.org/chicago-led-nation-in-homicides-for-12th-year-in-a-row-in-2023-murder-rate-still-5-times-higher-than-nycs-wirepoints/

January 3, 2024

"Count on hearing repeatedly this year from Chicago’s leadership that it successfully brought down the city’s murder total by 13% in 2023. Chicago finished the year with 617 homicides, down from 709 in 2022. That’s 92 fewer murders and good news...

But what you’re unlikely to hear are five additional facts that would temper any optimism gained from that first fact:

1. Murders across the country fell at record levels in 2023. Overall, homicides nationally are expected to drop 13%, about the same as in Chicago. And murders in other big homicide hotspots like Philadelphia, Baltimore and New Orleans fell by 21 to 31%. Most big cities had bigger percentage drops than Chicago did.

Below we lay out the 2023 data for the 10 homicide hubs in 2022, those cities with the largest number of murders in the country in 2022...

2. Chicago’s 617 homicides swamp that of its two big-city peers. NYC, which has more than triple Chicago’s population, had just 386 murders in 2023. Los Angeles, with 1.2 million more people than Chicago, had just 328 murders.

Chicago’s 617 homicides led the country for the 12th straight year...

3. Chicago’s murder rate per 100,000 residents, while down slightly in 2023, was the 2nd-highest among the nation’s biggest cities. Overall, only Philadelphia had a worse murder rate than Chicago among peer cities with populations greater than 1.5 million.

And when it comes to New York City, Chicago’s murder rate remained 5 times higher. If Chicago had had the same murder rate as NYC’s, Chicago would have experienced only 121 murders in 2023, not 617...

4. Chicago’s 617 murder total in 2023 was still up 23% when compared to pre-covid, pre-George Floyd 2019’s 500 murders.

5. Despite the 13% drop in homicides, Chicago’s major crimes jumped by a total of 16% in 2023. Robberies were up 23%. Aggravated batteries, up 6%. Thefts and criminal sexual assaults were both up 3% each. And motor vehicle thefts spiked by 37% to reach a total of nearly 30,000 car thefts. And all that was after major crimes had already jumped 40% between 2022 and 2021...

Expect all kinds of spin on Chicago’s crime numbers in 2024, especially in anticipation of the Democratic National Convention in August and elections in November.

It’s why we created the Chicago Weekly Crime Tracker so you can easily see for yourself what’s happening across the city:

https://wirepoints.org/chicago-weekly-crime-tracker/

--
GM

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 by: Cindy Hamilton - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 22:45 UTC

On 2024-02-24, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 21:02:53 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
><hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2024-02-24, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 15:28:37 -0500, George Sulzbach
>>><g.sulzbach@myplace.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Trump says if he's elected again the USA won't protect any
>>>>Country that doesn't pay its military protection dues, as
>>>>there are some delinquent accounts now.
>>>>
>>>>Are you folks current?
>>>
>>> Yes. But apart from that, what if the Baltic states are behind? Will
>>> the orange moron just give them to Putin? The UK's going through a
>>> recession. What if they're behind on their payments (which are not
>>> payments to the US, by the way)? Is Putin welcome to take it? Why
>>> weaken NATO by making such retarded statements?
>>
>>Because Trump does not give half a fuck for anybody but himself.
>
> Why is that obvious to you and me, but 50% of American voters can't
> see it?

They are poorly educated and self-centered. All they see is that
he professes to hate the same people they hate. He holds out
the promise of making life fair for them and unfair for others,
without realizing he has no interest in doing so and could not
manage it even if the wanted to.

--
Cindy Hamilton

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 by: Cindy Hamilton - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 22:47 UTC

On 2024-02-24, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On 2024-02-24, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> Incidentally, crime is considerably down since 1990.
>> https://www.statista.com/statistics/191219/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990/
>
> Isn't it amazing how statistics can be manipulated by altering the
> criteria of what constitutes a crime? Your politicians need you to
> believe that they're doing great. They aren't.
>
>> You're the one who introduced talk of crime. I rarely think of it,
>> although you seem to dwell on it. It's not your fault, Leo. It's
>> the way your brain is constructed.
>
> Probably. The first concept of government is to protect those governed.
> That's how one knows how they're doing. Not too good by my reckoning.

I am quite well protected. Aren't you?

> Have you learned Spanish yet?

I think your question should be "Have you learned Arabic yet?"
Most bilingual signage in southeast Michigan is English and Arabic.

--
Cindy Hamilton

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 by: Bruce - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 23:17 UTC

On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 17:58:31 -0400, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

>On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 08:09:18 +1100, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 15:49:53 -0500, George Sulzbach
>><g.sulzbach@myplace.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Bruce wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes. But apart from that, what if the Baltic states are behind? Will
>>>> the orange moron just give them to Putin? The UK's going through a
>>>> recession. What if they're behind on their payments (which are not
>>>> payments to the US, by the way)? Is Putin welcome to take it? Why
>>>> weaken NATO by making such retarded statements?
>>>>
>>>I think you already know no one really knows what might
>>>happen if the Orange man is in charge again, I'm just
>>>paraphrasing what he said is *part* of his plan.
>>>
>>>There's very many white American people that agree with
>>>*some* of what he says.
>>>
>>>I wish my choices were better than an old guy that seems
>>>to be somewhat of a puppet, and a lying criminal. :-)
>>
>>A lying criminal? Oh wait, you're another candidate for the Fox News
>>Award.
>>
>>But I agree with you about one thing. Is old Joe Biden really the best
>>candidate the Democrats could come up with? Of course, everybody's
>>better than Trump, but they had years to find a fitter, younger
>>Democrat. Was there nobody at all?
>
>I had hoped when Biden was elected he intended to groom Kamala for
>this election, but I guess not. He has kept her in obscurity.

Also, more conservative Democrats might find her scary because she has
modern ideas. Modern ideas AND a woman is more than many men of a
certain type can handle.

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 by: Bruce - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 23:20 UTC

On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 17:21:30 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

>On 2/24/2024 4:10 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 21:02:53 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
>> <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Because Trump does not give half a fuck for anybody but himself.
>>
>> Why is that obvious to you and me, but 50% of American voters can't
>> see it?
>
>Talking with a friend this morning, we discussed that. What makes some
>people so attractive to others? What charisma do they have?

I think dumber voters like that Trump also sounds dumb. It means he's
no threat to them. He thinks just like them.

>Not just politicians, the news had Joel Osteen on about the shooting at
>his church. He creeps me out just looking at him but people donate lots
>of money to him.

I don't know him, but has he been botoxed?
<https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Joel_Osteen_Preaching_%28cropped%29.jpg>

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 by: Bruce - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 23:21 UTC

On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 22:45:42 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
<hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

>On 2024-02-24, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 21:02:53 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
>><hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2024-02-24, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 15:28:37 -0500, George Sulzbach
>>>><g.sulzbach@myplace.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Trump says if he's elected again the USA won't protect any
>>>>>Country that doesn't pay its military protection dues, as
>>>>>there are some delinquent accounts now.
>>>>>
>>>>>Are you folks current?
>>>>
>>>> Yes. But apart from that, what if the Baltic states are behind? Will
>>>> the orange moron just give them to Putin? The UK's going through a
>>>> recession. What if they're behind on their payments (which are not
>>>> payments to the US, by the way)? Is Putin welcome to take it? Why
>>>> weaken NATO by making such retarded statements?
>>>
>>>Because Trump does not give half a fuck for anybody but himself.
>>
>> Why is that obvious to you and me, but 50% of American voters can't
>> see it?
>
>They are poorly educated and self-centered. All they see is that
>he professes to hate the same people they hate. He holds out
>the promise of making life fair for them and unfair for others,
>without realizing he has no interest in doing so and could not
>manage it even if the wanted to.

Amen.

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>
>> On Sun, 25 Feb 2024, Bruce wrote:
>
>
>>> Leo and "D", two peas in a Fox News pod.
>
>> Thank you for the valuable contribution. That is noted!
>
>
>Welcome to the "Pod", D. You'll notice that the furniture is exquisite
>and our menu is top of the line. Here's your membership card to the
>cognoscenti. You've earned it. ;)

:)

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>
>Isn't it amazing how statistics can be manipulated by altering the
>criteria of what constitutes a crime? Your politicians need you to
>believe that they're doing great. They aren't.

Leo will forever change or deny the facts until they fit his ideology.

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 by: Dave Smith - Sun, 25 Feb 2024 00:15 UTC

On 2024-02-24 4:58 p.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 08:09:18 +1100, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>

>> But I agree with you about one thing. Is old Joe Biden really the best
>> candidate the Democrats could come up with? Of course, everybody's
>> better than Trump, but they had years to find a fitter, younger
>> Democrat. Was there nobody at all?
>
> I had hoped when Biden was elected he intended to groom Kamala for
> this election, but I guess not. He has kept her in obscurity.

You're right. We haven't heard much about her. That should leave us
wondering if it is because she hasn't stepped up to take on any major
assignments, if Biden for one reason or another has not given her any
extra assignments, of if the press has had so much fodder with Biden's
senior moments that the press has lost interest in her. I don't know,
but those are the possibilities that I see.


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