On 2024-03-15 3:06 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2024-03-15 3:58 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:
>
>>> Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.
>>
>> LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only
>> time of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go
>> to the trouble of corning a brisket myself.
>
> I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic ancestry
> and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled potatoes thing
> every year and it was probably my least favourite dinner of the year,
> followed by another other meal that involved cabbage.  I am not adverse
> to the corned beef part but I just can't do it that day with the
> expectation of all the other supposedly traditional Irish stuff.
>
>
Including the ubiquitous banshee music.

jmcquown wrote:
> Bruce has an unnatural fear of the word "corn". ;)
>
> Jill
>
I have no problem with corn, except for it being 10 percent
of the supposed gasoline I'm buying now.

On 3/15/2024 5:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2024-03-15 3:58 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:
>
>>> Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.
>>
>> LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only
>> time of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go
>> to the trouble of corning a brisket myself.
>
> I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic ancestry
> and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled potatoes thing
> every year and it was probably my least favourite dinner of the year,
> followed by another other meal that involved cabbage.  I am not adverse
> to the corned beef part but I just can't do it that day with the
> expectation of all the other supposedly traditional Irish stuff.
>
>
I'm not interested in the Irish traditions involving corned beef (which,
BTW, aren't really Irish). I simply love corned beef brisket and cabbage.

Jill

On 2024-03-15, heyjoe <address@is.invalid> wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote :
>
>> $3.99/lb here.
>
> point is $3.99/lb here
> flat is $4.99/lb.

This was probably flat. I didn't look.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 21:47:08 +0000, S Viemeister
<firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:

>On 15/03/2024 21:26, Bruce wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 17:06:01 -0400, Dave Smith
>> <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>>> I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic ancestry
>>> and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled potatoes thing
>>> every year and it was probably my least favourite dinner of the year,
>>> followed by another other meal that involved cabbage. I am not adverse
>>> to the corned beef part but I just can't do it that day with the
>>> expectation of all the other supposedly traditional Irish stuff.
>>
>> 'Supposedly?' Are the Irish making it up?
>>
>Corned beef as a 'traditional' food for St Patrick's day, has an
>interesting history...

But "all the other supposedly traditional Irish stuff" almost implies
a big scam. Tell us more, Dave Smith!

On 3/15/2024 5:49 PM, Graham wrote:
> On 2024-03-15 3:06 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2024-03-15 3:58 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:
>>
>>>> Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.
>>>
>>> LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only
>>> time of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go
>>> to the trouble of corning a brisket myself.
>>
>> I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic
>> ancestry and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled
>> potatoes thing every year and it was probably my least favourite
>> dinner of the year, followed by another other meal that involved
>> cabbage.  I am not adverse to the corned beef part but I just can't do
>> it that day with the expectation of all the other supposedly
>> traditional Irish stuff.
>>
>>
> Including the ubiquitous banshee music.

As if bagpipes are all that pleasant. LOL Graham, you may recall I've
mentioned my Scottish grandfather was an Orangeman. I don't think about
Ireland or St. Patrick when I cook corned beef brisket. I cook it
because it tastes good. The date only matters because this is the only
time of year I can find it in the stores. I buy extras to put in the
freezer. I generally cook another one again in October. No St. Paddy's
Day in October. It's about the brisket, not about the Irish.

Jill

On 3/15/2024 3:58 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:
>> On 2024-03-14 2:29 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>> Long gone are the days of $2.99/lb "deals" on corned beef brisket;
>>> the going rate this year across all local markets was $4.99/lb.  I
>>> bought three of them this year; two are in the freezer.  I love
>>> corned beef brisket and this is the only time of year I can find it.
>>> (Sorry, the canned stuff simply doesn't count as corned beef in my
>>> book and no, I'm not going to bother to "corn" a brisket.)  I also
>>> picked up a nice head of cabbage.
>>>
>>> I will likely cook it on Saturday.  I do it in the crock pot/slow
>>> cooker with the peppercorn spice packet in a minimal amount of water;
>>> I do add a couple of extra dried bay leaves.  Towards the end of
>>> cooking I cut the cabbage into wedges and cook it on top of the beef
>>> until it's just fork tender.
>>>
>>> I do not cook potatoes and carrots with this.  But I did buy some
>>> potatoes so I could make a pan of corned beef hash with some of the
>>> leftover brisket.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.
>
> LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only time
> of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go to the
> trouble of corning a brisket myself.
>
> Jill

I've done it. Yes, it was good but cheaper/easier to buy it. I did it
just to say I did it, like I just did. Twenty years later I got to brag
about it! I also made pastrami.

On 3/15/2024 4:00 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 15:58:00 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>

>> LOL! I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only time
>> of year I can find corned beef brisket. I'm not inclined to go to the
>> trouble of corning a brisket myself.
>
> Wrapping it in corn?

Yes, exactly .

“Corn” refers to the grains of salt used in the curing process.

On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 19:50:42 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

>On 3/15/2024 4:00 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 15:58:00 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>
>>> LOL! I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only time
>>> of year I can find corned beef brisket. I'm not inclined to go to the
>>> trouble of corning a brisket myself.
>>
>> Wrapping it in corn?
>
>
>Yes, exactly .
>
>“Corn” refers to the grains of salt used in the curing process.

Corn means a lot.

On 2024-03-15, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 21:47:08 +0000, S Viemeister
><firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
>
>>On 15/03/2024 21:26, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 17:06:01 -0400, Dave Smith
>>> <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>> I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic ancestry
>>>> and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled potatoes thing
>>>> every year and it was probably my least favourite dinner of the year,
>>>> followed by another other meal that involved cabbage. I am not adverse
>>>> to the corned beef part but I just can't do it that day with the
>>>> expectation of all the other supposedly traditional Irish stuff.
>>>
>>> 'Supposedly?' Are the Irish making it up?
>>>
>>Corned beef as a 'traditional' food for St Patrick's day, has an
>>interesting history...
>
> But "all the other supposedly traditional Irish stuff" almost implies
> a big scam. Tell us more, Dave Smith!

I wouldn't call it a scam. I'd call it marketing.

https://money.com/st-patricks-day-traditions-not-irish/

--
Cindy Hamilton

On 2024-03-15, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 3/15/2024 5:49 PM, Graham wrote:
>> On 2024-03-15 3:06 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2024-03-15 3:58 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.
>>>>
>>>> LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only
>>>> time of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go
>>>> to the trouble of corning a brisket myself.
>>>
>>> I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic
>>> ancestry and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled
>>> potatoes thing every year and it was probably my least favourite
>>> dinner of the year, followed by another other meal that involved
>>> cabbage.  I am not adverse to the corned beef part but I just can't do
>>> it that day with the expectation of all the other supposedly
>>> traditional Irish stuff.
>>>
>>>
>> Including the ubiquitous banshee music.
>
> As if bagpipes are all that pleasant. LOL

There are several different kinds of pipes. Northumbrian smallpipes
can be quite pleasant. They sound kind of like an oboe on steroids.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQSEn-SZzpM

It takes a couple of minutes before the pipes come in. They're playing
alongside a flute.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On 2024-03-16, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 19:50:42 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>
>>On 3/15/2024 4:00 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 15:58:00 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>> LOL! I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only time
>>>> of year I can find corned beef brisket. I'm not inclined to go to the
>>>> trouble of corning a brisket myself.
>>>
>>> Wrapping it in corn?
>>
>>
>>Yes, exactly .
>>
>>“Corn” refers to the grains of salt used in the curing process.
>
> Corn means a lot.

It used to mean "grain" rather than Zea maiz specifically.

Consider the word "kernel", which is etymologically related.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On 3/15/2024 7:48 PM, Ed P wrote:
> On 3/15/2024 3:58 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:
>>> On 2024-03-14 2:29 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>> Long gone are the days of $2.99/lb "deals" on corned beef brisket;
>>>> the going rate this year across all local markets was $4.99/lb.  I
>>>> bought three of them this year; two are in the freezer.  I love
>>>> corned beef brisket and this is the only time of year I can find it.
>>>> (Sorry, the canned stuff simply doesn't count as corned beef in my
>>>> book and no, I'm not going to bother to "corn" a brisket.)  I also
>>>> picked up a nice head of cabbage.
>>>>
>>>> I will likely cook it on Saturday.  I do it in the crock pot/slow
>>>> cooker with the peppercorn spice packet in a minimal amount of
>>>> water; I do add a couple of extra dried bay leaves.  Towards the end
>>>> of cooking I cut the cabbage into wedges and cook it on top of the
>>>> beef until it's just fork tender.
>>>>
>>>> I do not cook potatoes and carrots with this.  But I did buy some
>>>> potatoes so I could make a pan of corned beef hash with some of the
>>>> leftover brisket.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.
>>
>> LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only
>> time of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go
>> to the trouble of corning a brisket myself.
>>
>> Jill
>
> I've done it.  Yes, it was good but cheaper/easier to buy it.  I did it
> just to say I did it, like I just did.  Twenty years later I got to brag
> about it!  I also made pastrami.

I made tamales from scratch once just to say I did it. Soaked the corn
husks, slow simmered the pork roast with spices, shredded the meat, made
the masa meal mixed with a bit of the spicy gravy, spread the masa dough
on the soaked husks and added the shredded meat, rolled them up and
steamed them. It was a long slow process. They were delicious! I'll
never do it again. :)

Jill

On 3/16/2024 5:21 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2024-03-15, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On 3/15/2024 5:49 PM, Graham wrote:
>>> On 2024-03-15 3:06 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2024-03-15 3:58 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only
>>>>> time of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go
>>>>> to the trouble of corning a brisket myself.
>>>>
>>>> I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic
>>>> ancestry and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled
>>>> potatoes thing every year and it was probably my least favourite
>>>> dinner of the year, followed by another other meal that involved
>>>> cabbage.  I am not adverse to the corned beef part but I just can't do
>>>> it that day with the expectation of all the other supposedly
>>>> traditional Irish stuff.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Including the ubiquitous banshee music.
>>
>> As if bagpipes are all that pleasant. LOL
>
> There are several different kinds of pipes. Northumbrian smallpipes
> can be quite pleasant. They sound kind of like an oboe on steroids.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQSEn-SZzpM
>
> It takes a couple of minutes before the pipes come in. They're playing
> alongside a flute.
>
True, but that's folk music. Not the screeling of full on bagpipes.

Jill

On 2024-03-16, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 3/16/2024 5:21 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2024-03-15, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> On 3/15/2024 5:49 PM, Graham wrote:
>>>> On 2024-03-15 3:06 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-03-15 3:58 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only
>>>>>> time of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go
>>>>>> to the trouble of corning a brisket myself.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic
>>>>> ancestry and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled
>>>>> potatoes thing every year and it was probably my least favourite
>>>>> dinner of the year, followed by another other meal that involved
>>>>> cabbage.  I am not adverse to the corned beef part but I just can't do
>>>>> it that day with the expectation of all the other supposedly
>>>>> traditional Irish stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Including the ubiquitous banshee music.
>>>
>>> As if bagpipes are all that pleasant. LOL
>>
>> There are several different kinds of pipes. Northumbrian smallpipes
>> can be quite pleasant. They sound kind of like an oboe on steroids.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQSEn-SZzpM
>>
>> It takes a couple of minutes before the pipes come in. They're playing
>> alongside a flute.
>>
> True, but that's folk music. Not the screeling of full on bagpipes.

Skreeling bagpipes _are_ folk music.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 08:40:33 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On 3/16/2024 5:21 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2024-03-15, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> On 3/15/2024 5:49 PM, Graham wrote:
>>>> On 2024-03-15 3:06 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-03-15 3:58 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only
>>>>>> time of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go
>>>>>> to the trouble of corning a brisket myself.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic
>>>>> ancestry and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled
>>>>> potatoes thing every year and it was probably my least favourite
>>>>> dinner of the year, followed by another other meal that involved
>>>>> cabbage.  I am not adverse to the corned beef part but I just can't do
>>>>> it that day with the expectation of all the other supposedly
>>>>> traditional Irish stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Including the ubiquitous banshee music.
>>>
>>> As if bagpipes are all that pleasant. LOL
>>
>> There are several different kinds of pipes. Northumbrian smallpipes
>> can be quite pleasant. They sound kind of like an oboe on steroids.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQSEn-SZzpM
>>
>> It takes a couple of minutes before the pipes come in. They're playing
>> alongside a flute.
>>
>True, but that's folk music. Not the screeling of full on bagpipes.
>
>Jill

If you want to point to Stan Rogers it should be this one, or Barretts
Privateers. He wasn't known for pipes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMRpYtAhGAo

On 16 Mar 2024 12:58:12 GMT, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com>
wrote:

>On 2024-03-16, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On 3/16/2024 5:21 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On 2024-03-15, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> On 3/15/2024 5:49 PM, Graham wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-03-15 3:06 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-03-15 3:58 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only
>>>>>>> time of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go
>>>>>>> to the trouble of corning a brisket myself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic
>>>>>> ancestry and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled
>>>>>> potatoes thing every year and it was probably my least favourite
>>>>>> dinner of the year, followed by another other meal that involved
>>>>>> cabbage.  I am not adverse to the corned beef part but I just can't do
>>>>>> it that day with the expectation of all the other supposedly
>>>>>> traditional Irish stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Including the ubiquitous banshee music.
>>>>
>>>> As if bagpipes are all that pleasant. LOL
>>>
>>> There are several different kinds of pipes. Northumbrian smallpipes
>>> can be quite pleasant. They sound kind of like an oboe on steroids.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQSEn-SZzpM
>>>
>>> It takes a couple of minutes before the pipes come in. They're playing
>>> alongside a flute.
>>>
>> True, but that's folk music. Not the screeling of full on bagpipes.
>
>Skreeling bagpipes _are_ folk music.

In part, I had a laugh when my father piped in the haggis for Bobbie
Burns Night at a mess in Tokyo. The American wife standing next to
me was astounded when he played 'Deep in the Heart of Dixie' she said
'Oh, I didn't know bag pipes could play American tunes' - idiot!

On 2024-03-16 8:31 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 3/15/2024 7:48 PM, Ed P wrote:

>> I've done it.  Yes, it was good but cheaper/easier to buy it.  I did
>> it just to say I did it, like I just did.  Twenty years later I got to
>> brag about it!  I also made pastrami.
>
> I made tamales from scratch once just to say I did it.  Soaked the corn
> husks, slow simmered the pork roast with spices, shredded the meat, made
> the masa meal mixed with a bit of the spicy gravy, spread the masa dough
> on the soaked husks and added the shredded meat, rolled them up and
> steamed them.  It was a long slow process.  They were delicious!  I'll
> never do it again. :)
>

I have had tamales a number of times and they are something I just
cannot get excited about. Some were a little better than others, but in
general they all a lot of bland masa and just a little good stuff in the
middle. Good for you for making them but, given my experience with them,
there is no way I am going to all that work for so little benefit.

On 2024-03-16 8:58 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2024-03-16, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On 3/16/2024 5:21 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On 2024-03-15, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> On 3/15/2024 5:49 PM, Graham wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-03-15 3:06 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-03-15 3:58 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only
>>>>>>> time of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go
>>>>>>> to the trouble of corning a brisket myself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic
>>>>>> ancestry and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled
>>>>>> potatoes thing every year and it was probably my least favourite
>>>>>> dinner of the year, followed by another other meal that involved
>>>>>> cabbage.  I am not adverse to the corned beef part but I just can't do
>>>>>> it that day with the expectation of all the other supposedly
>>>>>> traditional Irish stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Including the ubiquitous banshee music.
>>>>
>>>> As if bagpipes are all that pleasant. LOL
>>>
>>> There are several different kinds of pipes. Northumbrian smallpipes
>>> can be quite pleasant. They sound kind of like an oboe on steroids.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQSEn-SZzpM
>>>
>>> It takes a couple of minutes before the pipes come in. They're playing
>>> alongside a flute.
>>>
>> True, but that's folk music. Not the screeling of full on bagpipes.
>
> Skreeling bagpipes _are_ folk music.
>

Skreel or skirl?

On 16/03/2024 13:01, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

> If you want to point to Stan Rogers it should be this one, or Barretts
> Privateers. He wasn't known for pipes.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMRpYtAhGAo
>
He died far too young. That one, and Barrett's Privateers are favourites
of mine.
Friends of mine from my days on the folk scene in Edinburgh, recorded
some of his songs - they do an excellent version of Privateers.

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=R-Yn9_JV4do>

(One of Ian's cousins is married to a cousin of mine.)

On 3/16/2024 8:58 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2024-03-16, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On 3/16/2024 5:21 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On 2024-03-15, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> On 3/15/2024 5:49 PM, Graham wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-03-15 3:06 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-03-15 3:58 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only
>>>>>>> time of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go
>>>>>>> to the trouble of corning a brisket myself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic
>>>>>> ancestry and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled
>>>>>> potatoes thing every year and it was probably my least favourite
>>>>>> dinner of the year, followed by another other meal that involved
>>>>>> cabbage.  I am not adverse to the corned beef part but I just can't do
>>>>>> it that day with the expectation of all the other supposedly
>>>>>> traditional Irish stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Including the ubiquitous banshee music.
>>>>
>>>> As if bagpipes are all that pleasant. LOL
>>>
>>> There are several different kinds of pipes. Northumbrian smallpipes
>>> can be quite pleasant. They sound kind of like an oboe on steroids.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQSEn-SZzpM
>>>
>>> It takes a couple of minutes before the pipes come in. They're playing
>>> alongside a flute.
>>>
>> True, but that's folk music. Not the screeling of full on bagpipes.
>
> Skreeling bagpipes _are_ folk music.
>
The ones marching in formation in front of the various palaces in the UK
in unison don't sound sweet or soothing.

Jill

On 3/16/2024 9:01 AM, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 08:40:33 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On 3/16/2024 5:21 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On 2024-03-15, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> On 3/15/2024 5:49 PM, Graham wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-03-15 3:06 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-03-15 3:58 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only
>>>>>>> time of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go
>>>>>>> to the trouble of corning a brisket myself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic
>>>>>> ancestry and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled
>>>>>> potatoes thing every year and it was probably my least favourite
>>>>>> dinner of the year, followed by another other meal that involved
>>>>>> cabbage.  I am not adverse to the corned beef part but I just can't do
>>>>>> it that day with the expectation of all the other supposedly
>>>>>> traditional Irish stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Including the ubiquitous banshee music.
>>>>
>>>> As if bagpipes are all that pleasant. LOL
>>>
>>> There are several different kinds of pipes. Northumbrian smallpipes
>>> can be quite pleasant. They sound kind of like an oboe on steroids.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQSEn-SZzpM
>>>
>>> It takes a couple of minutes before the pipes come in. They're playing
>>> alongside a flute.
>>>
>> True, but that's folk music. Not the screeling of full on bagpipes.
>>
>> Jill
>
> If you want to point to Stan Rogers it should be this one, or Barretts
> Privateers. He wasn't known for pipes.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMRpYtAhGAo

That's very nice. :)

Jill

On 16/03/2024 13:47, jmcquown wrote:
> On 3/16/2024 8:58 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>> Skreeling bagpipes _are_ folk music.
>>
> The ones marching in formation in front of the various palaces in the UK
> in unison don't sound sweet or soothing.
>
Those are war pipes - they aren't meant to be soothing!

Parlour pipes, though, can be lovely.

On 3/16/2024 9:45 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 16/03/2024 13:01, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
>
>> If you want to point to Stan Rogers it should be this one, or Barretts
>> Privateers.  He wasn't known for pipes.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMRpYtAhGAo
>>
> He died far too young. That one, and Barrett's Privateers are favourites
> of mine.
> Friends of mine from my days on the folk scene in Edinburgh, recorded
> some of his songs - they do an excellent version of Privateers.
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=R-Yn9_JV4do>
>
> (One of Ian's cousins is married to a cousin of mine.)
>
That's almost like a sea shanty. There are some drums in there,
bohdran's are likely common all across the UK.

Jill

On 3/16/2024 9:55 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 16/03/2024 13:47, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 3/16/2024 8:58 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>>> Skreeling bagpipes _are_ folk music.
>>>
>> The ones marching in formation in front of the various palaces in the
>> UK in unison don't sound sweet or soothing.
>>
> Those are war pipes - they aren't meant to be soothing!
>
Those are the only sounds I've seen, the ones marching ahead of a
wedding or state funeral (dirges).

> Parlour pipes, though, can be lovely.
>
I don't disbelieve that. A flute is a pipe, after all.

Jill