Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On 2024-03-15, cshenk <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
> > ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
> >
> >> jmcquown wrote:
> >>
> >> > Long gone are the days of $2.99/lb "deals" on corned beef
> brisket; >> > the going rate this year across all local markets was
> $4.99/lb. I >> > bought three of them this year; two are in the
> freezer. I love >> > corned beef brisket and this is the only time
> of year I can find >> > it. (Sorry, the canned stuff simply doesn't
> count as corned beef >> > in my book and no, I'm not going to bother
> to "corn" a brisket.) >> > I also picked up a nice head of cabbage.
> >>
> >> > I will likely cook it on Saturday. I do it in the crock pot/slow
> >> > cooker with the peppercorn spice packet in a minimal amount of
> >> > water; I do add a couple of extra dried bay leaves. Towards the
> >> > end of cooking I cut the cabbage into wedges and cook it on top
> of >> > the beef until it's just fork tender.
> >>
> >> > I do not cook potatoes and carrots with this. But I did buy some
> >> > potatoes so I could make a pan of corned beef hash with some of
> the >> > leftover brisket.
> >>
> >> > Jill
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm a bit surprised I didn't see any corned beef briskets in this
> >> weeks Kroger ad. But they do have cabbage 'on sale' for 49¢ per
> >> pound and it's on my list for Friday's shopping.
> >
> > Not really good sales on the corned beef here either. Cabbage
> > though is 25cents/lb. Nothing really exciting this week.
>
> $3.99/lb here. Cabbage, however, isn't on sale at my grocery
> store. $0.69/lb.

We skipped it this year. Don's 'ok' with it but doesn't want it more
than once a year and hold the cabbage. I make the braising broth for
him then he takes over. it doesn't really have a name and it's not
'authentic' at all what folks expect for the basically Scottish dish or
USA dish. It's more like a filipeno adobo stew or pot roast with an
adobo approach.

lucretia@florence.it wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 20:12:24 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> GM wrote:
>>> Graham wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Religion! Always fucking religion! The curse of humanity!
>>>
>>> Now, Graham, our Western Civilisation is *built* on the Judeo - Christian
>>> tradition...!!!
>>>
>>> ;-P
>>>
>>
>> And the christian holy book says homosexuals should be put to death.
>>
> Do they have a good reason for that??
>

Not that I can tell. I just figured it was due to being a death centered
religion.

On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 08:32:21 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On 3/17/2024 5:11 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2024-03-17, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> lucretia@florence.it wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 19:13:31 +0000, S Viemeister
>>>> <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 16/03/2024 18:46, Ed P wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/16/2024 10:21 AM, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, he did die far too young, Harry Chapin likewise :(    That is a
>>>>>>> nice job of Barratts, the other Stan Rogers I love is Cape St. Mary's,
>>>>>>> though I confess there aren't any of his I dislike :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We met Harry Chapin some years ago (1979?).  He was big on raising money
>>>>>> for a charity that fed people and after concerts he would sell and
>>>>>> autograph his books and T-shirts.  The Valley Forge Music Fair was a
>>>>>> smallish venue so my wife and I waited until the crowd died down.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Standing in the lobby, we were talking to a woman that was there,
>>>>>> evidently waiting too.  Once the crowd was gone, she said to us "let me
>>>>>> introduce you to my husband" and took us over to meet Harry.  It was
>>>>>> very cool at the time.  My kids still have what we bought for them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://whyhunger.org/who-we-are/history/
>>>>> His brother Tom did/does quite a bit of charity work, too. We used to
>>>>> take our kids to his concerts, and got to meet him.
>>>>> Good men, both of them.
>>>>
>>>> Agreed -
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks. I didn't realize harry chapin had died. "TAXI" is gone.
>>>
>>> Not too long ago, there was a retired taxi driver that posted here, Until
>>> her royal majesty banned him. Sort of a bum, like in Chapin's song. I think
>>> his name was joseph thomas, or something.
>>>
>>> Too bad he wasn't respectable enough for her majesty.
>>
>> "Retired taxi driver and kook".
>>
>> Fixed it for you.
>>
>LOL Cindy! How can anyone "ban" someone on an unmoderated Usenet group?
> Is Hank blethering about the guy who bragged about the number of
>traffic tickets and/or accidents he'd had? The last I recall he was
>whining about no one replying to his rambling, incoherent posts.
>Methinks he wandered off because he wasn't getting enough attention.

That was my impression too. Not that I minded him. I always read the
first two sentences of his posts, not the other 100. He'd often go off
on a tangent.

On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 10:21:54 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2024-03-17 8:32 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> On 3/17/2024 5:11 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On 2024-03-17, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>>>> Too bad he wasn't respectable enough for her majesty.
>>>
>>> "Retired taxi driver and kook".
>>>
>>> Fixed it for you.
>>>
>> LOL Cindy!  How can anyone "ban" someone on an unmoderated Usenet group?
>
>That would be a trick.

You could constantly repeat that someone's a troll. When a rare new
person comes in, you can quickly pull them aside and telll them they
shouldn't talk to so and so because that's a troll. You know, the kind
of stuff Jill's already doing.

>>  Is Hank blethering about the guy who bragged about the number of
>> traffic tickets and/or accidents he'd had?  The last I recall he was
>> whining about no one replying to his rambling, incoherent posts.
>> Methinks he wandered off because he wasn't getting enough attention.
>
>I suspect that is the case. I had no use for the guy and filtered him
>shortly after his arrival here.

Let's hear it for Dave Smith!

>Unlike some of the trolls here that some
>people feel compelled to reply to, I was not seeing many of his posts
>quoted in replies.

He wasn't a troll. A bit of a kook yes, but not a troll.

>It seems to have been one of the more successful
>cases of ignoring trolls long enough for them to be disappointed by
>their lack of trolling success and getting bored enough to move on.

I'd exchange him for you, given the option.

On 2024-03-17, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> lucretia@florence.it wrote:
>> On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 20:12:24 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> GM wrote:
>>>> Graham wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Religion! Always fucking religion! The curse of humanity!
>>>>
>>>> Now, Graham, our Western Civilisation is *built* on the Judeo - Christian
>>>> tradition...!!!
>>>>
>>>> ;-P
>>>>
>>>
>>> And the christian holy book says homosexuals should be put to death.
>>>
>> Do they have a good reason for that??
>>
>
> Not that I can tell. I just figured it was due to being a death centered
> religion.

Because homosexuals can't make new members for the religion.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On 2024-03-16, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

> I don't give a rip about Easter, either, but the so-called religious
> holiday won't stop me from cooking braised lamb shanks that weekend.
> It's close to the Spring equinox. :)

Ham and potato salad here for Easter. I forget why, but it's a
tradition and the only time of the year where I buy a bone-in ham.

leo

On 2024-03-17 4:06 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> On 2024-03-16, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> I don't give a rip about Easter, either, but the so-called religious
>> holiday won't stop me from cooking braised lamb shanks that weekend.
>> It's close to the Spring equinox. :)
>
>
> Ham and potato salad here for Easter. I forget why, but it's a
> tradition and the only time of the year where I buy a bone-in ham.

We are doing Porterhouse steak. I will get the tenderloin and my wife
will get the strip. It works for both of us. Some sort of potato and a
salad with blue cheese dressing.

On 2024-03-17, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On 2024-03-16, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> I don't give a rip about Easter, either, but the so-called religious
>> holiday won't stop me from cooking braised lamb shanks that weekend.
>> It's close to the Spring equinox. :)
>
>
> Ham and potato salad here for Easter. I forget why, but it's a
> tradition and the only time of the year where I buy a bone-in ham.

Ham lasts from fall slaughter until spring.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On 2024-03-17, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> On 2024-03-17 4:06 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>> On 2024-03-16, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't give a rip about Easter, either, but the so-called religious
>>> holiday won't stop me from cooking braised lamb shanks that weekend.
>>> It's close to the Spring equinox. :)
>>
>>
>> Ham and potato salad here for Easter. I forget why, but it's a
>> tradition and the only time of the year where I buy a bone-in ham.
>
>
>
> We are doing Porterhouse steak. I will get the tenderloin and my wife
> will get the strip. It works for both of us. Some sort of potato and a
> salad with blue cheese dressing.

Easter is two weeks away (or 6-7 if you're Orthodox). I don't plan that
far ahead.

I bet it will be salad with grilled chicken on it, though. We had a
short-lived tradition of going out for sushi on Easter, but we haven't
done that in a long time. Easter eel.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On 17 Mar 2024 20:01:41 GMT, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com>
wrote:

>On 2024-03-17, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> lucretia@florence.it wrote:
>>> On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 20:12:24 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> GM wrote:
>>>>> Graham wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Religion! Always fucking religion! The curse of humanity!
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, Graham, our Western Civilisation is *built* on the Judeo - Christian
>>>>> tradition...!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> ;-P
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And the christian holy book says homosexuals should be put to death.
>>>>
>>> Do they have a good reason for that??
>>>
>>
>> Not that I can tell. I just figured it was due to being a death centered
>> religion.
>
>Because homosexuals can't make new members for the religion.

Of course! Should have realised that!

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2024-03-17, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> lucretia@florence.it wrote:
>>> On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 20:12:24 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> GM wrote:
>>>>> Graham wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Religion! Always fucking religion! The curse of humanity!
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, Graham, our Western Civilisation is *built* on the Judeo - Christian
>>>>> tradition...!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> ;-P
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And the christian holy book says homosexuals should be put to death.
>>>>
>>> Do they have a good reason for that??
>>>
>>
>> Not that I can tell. I just figured it was due to being a death centered
>> religion.
>
> Because homosexuals can't make new members for the religion.
>

Good point. And it applies to all the abrahamic cults.

Probably also why catholics hate abortion and contraceptives.

On 2024-03-17, jmcquown wrote:

> On 3/17/2024 5:11 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>> "Retired taxi driver and kook".

>> Fixed it for you.

> LOL Cindy!

I email him occasionally. I am on his 'sick joke' mailing list.

On 2024-03-17, Dave Smith wrote:

> It seems to have been one of the more successful cases of ignoring
> trolls long enough for them to be disappointed by their lack of
> trolling success and getting bored enough to move on.

I find it more likely that he cannot afford a computer
as his state-provided cell phone does not do NNTP access.

Plus perhaps he does not have the tech ability to install
Thunderbird. I suppose he could ask JK or BB or the Hawaiian
if they are still posting in the Google universe.

On 2024-03-17, Bruce wrote:

> I'd exchange him for you, given the option.

Send him a email about the other web NNTP portal.

Unlike you, Thomas Joseph (and me & Dave Smith)
have the balls to use our complete real names
and a working email address in the NNTP headers.

You can look up TJs address in his old posts.

On 2024-03-17, Hank Rogers wrote:

> And the christian holy book says homosexuals should be put to death.

Hank! How many times do I have to explain it to you?

Originally. it was in the old Jewish book. (The first 5
science-fiction chapters of the 'Old Testament').

Then Christ lived and died. Hundreds of stories were
written about him over centuries and eventually a comittee
decided which ones to make the official 'New Testament'.

Also, Mohammed was born a few centuries later and people
followed him around writing everything he said, which
became 'word of God' when he said it, maybe like Trump
when he imagined re-classifying document security ratings.

Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> wrote:
> On 2024-03-17, Hank Rogers wrote:
>
>> And the christian holy book says homosexuals should be put to death.
>
> Hank! How many times do I have to explain it to you?
>
> Originally. it was in the old Jewish book. (The first 5
> science-fiction chapters of the 'Old Testament').
>
> Then Christ lived and died. Hundreds of stories were
> written about him over centuries and eventually a comittee
> decided which ones to make the official 'New Testament'.
>
> Also, Mohammed was born a few centuries later and people
> followed him around writing everything he said, which
> became 'word of God' when he said it, maybe like Trump
> when he imagined re-classifying document security ratings.
>
>

Yes, I should have said “ The abrahamic holy books “.

They’re all equally nasty pieces of shit.

Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 10:21:54 -0400, Dave Smith
> <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 2024-03-17 8:32 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 3/17/2024 5:11 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On 2024-03-17, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Too bad he wasn't respectable enough for her majesty.
>>>>
>>>> "Retired taxi driver and kook".
>>>>
>>>> Fixed it for you.
>>>>
>>> LOL Cindy!  How can anyone "ban" someone on an unmoderated Usenet group?
>>
>> That would be a trick.
>
> You could constantly repeat that someone's a troll. When a rare new
> person comes in, you can quickly pull them aside and telll them they
> shouldn't talk to so and so because that's a troll. You know, the kind
> of stuff Jill's already doing.
>
>>>  Is Hank blethering about the guy who bragged about the number of
>>> traffic tickets and/or accidents he'd had?  The last I recall he was
>>> whining about no one replying to his rambling, incoherent posts.
>>> Methinks he wandered off because he wasn't getting enough attention.
>>
>> I suspect that is the case. I had no use for the guy and filtered him
>> shortly after his arrival here.
>
> Let's hear it for Dave Smith!
>
>> Unlike some of the trolls here that some
>> people feel compelled to reply to, I was not seeing many of his posts
>> quoted in replies.
>
> He wasn't a troll. A bit of a kook yes, but not a troll.
>
>> It seems to have been one of the more successful
>> cases of ignoring trolls long enough for them to be disappointed by
>> their lack of trolling success and getting bored enough to move on.
>
> I'd exchange him for you, given the option.
>

So would I. Of course I’d miss the big niece stories, but they’re rare
these days.

The good thing is you could then change your name to dave smith.

On 18 Mar 2024 06:16:44 GMT, Hank Rogers <invalid@nospam.com> wrote:

>Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> I'd exchange him for you, given the option.
>
>So would I. Of course I’d miss the big niece stories, but they’re rare
>these days.
>
>The good thing is you could then change your name to dave smith.

I've had professional help to overcome that urge.

lucretia@florence.it wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 20:12:24 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
> wrote:
>>GM wrote:
>>> Graham wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Religion! Always fucking religion! The curse of humanity!
>>>
>>> Now, Graham, our Western Civilisation is *built* on the Judeo - Christian
>>> tradition...!!!
>>>
>>> ;-P
>>>
>>
>>And the christian holy book says homosexuals should be put to death.
>>
> Do they have a good reason for that??

they used to when it was critical for every tribal member
(puns galore this morning) to be completely engaged in
defense. or to put it more bluntly, if you weren't making
enough babies you didn't have enough soldiers. for nomadic
tribes always conflicting about turf to graze their animals
(and now a lot of their ground cover is gone and they're
grazing on rocks and barely fertile alkaline subsoils) every
sperm is sacred.

songbird

Hank Rogers wrote:
....
> They’re all equally nasty pieces of shit.

some parts are correct, but the rest of them do need
some editing these days. like saying up front that they
are myths and stories of which some parts may be accurate
but literal interpretation is really pointless.

when you get a literal reading gone too far it all
becomes a pile of contradictions. sure, call it faith
if you want to believe it, but then don't try to pull
arguments out of that pile of goop because you can
prove about anything you want from it.

songbird

jmcquown wrote:
....
> cannot experience sexual pleasure. That's for the man to have, not the
> woman. What kind of bullshit religous crap is this?!

absolutely pure BS. but like i said in my other post
on this, it's a hold-over from other times when having
every male able to fight and pumping out more males to
fight was critical for cultural (tribal) survival.

songbird

On 2024-03-18 8:36 a.m., songbird wrote:
>
> they used to when it was critical for every tribal member
> (puns galore this morning) to be completely engaged in
> defense. or to put it more bluntly, if you weren't making
> enough babies you didn't have enough soldiers. for nomadic
> tribes always conflicting about turf to graze their animals
> (and now a lot of their ground cover is gone and they're
> grazing on rocks and barely fertile alkaline subsoils) every
> sperm is sacred.
>
>
It's pretty sad that we are facing so many problems in the world that
are directly or indirectly related to over population and there are
still people having huge families. It is especially bad in some of the
most desolate countries. It really gets me to see coverage of famine
relief in arid African countries and seeing families with a dozen kids
and they are all starving.

On 2024-03-18, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> On 2024-03-18 8:36 a.m., songbird wrote:
>>
>> they used to when it was critical for every tribal member
>> (puns galore this morning) to be completely engaged in
>> defense. or to put it more bluntly, if you weren't making
>> enough babies you didn't have enough soldiers. for nomadic
>> tribes always conflicting about turf to graze their animals
>> (and now a lot of their ground cover is gone and they're
>> grazing on rocks and barely fertile alkaline subsoils) every
>> sperm is sacred.
>>
>>
> It's pretty sad that we are facing so many problems in the world that
> are directly or indirectly related to over population and there are
> still people having huge families. It is especially bad in some of the
> most desolate countries. It really gets me to see coverage of famine
> relief in arid African countries and seeing families with a dozen kids
> and they are all starving.

They don't have access to birth control. If the woman tried to
say, "No, let's not have any more children", her man would likely
beat and rape her anyway.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On 2024-03-18, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> If the woman tried to say, "No, let's not have
> any more children", her man would likely
> beat and rape her anyway.

Some men will beat & rape even if she says "Well, Okay".

On 2024-03-18 9:06 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2024-03-18, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> On 2024-03-18 8:36 a.m., songbird wrote:
>>>
>>> they used to when it was critical for every tribal member
>>> (puns galore this morning) to be completely engaged in
>>> defense. or to put it more bluntly, if you weren't making
>>> enough babies you didn't have enough soldiers. for nomadic
>>> tribes always conflicting about turf to graze their animals
>>> (and now a lot of their ground cover is gone and they're
>>> grazing on rocks and barely fertile alkaline subsoils) every
>>> sperm is sacred.
>>>
>>>
>> It's pretty sad that we are facing so many problems in the world that
>> are directly or indirectly related to over population and there are
>> still people having huge families. It is especially bad in some of the
>> most desolate countries. It really gets me to see coverage of famine
>> relief in arid African countries and seeing families with a dozen kids
>> and they are all starving.
>
> They don't have access to birth control. If the woman tried to
> say, "No, let's not have any more children", her man would likely
> beat and rape her anyway.
>

Because they are Muslim and/or African?