On 16/03/2024 17:53, Graham wrote:
> On 2024-03-15 1:01 p.m., Graham wrote:

>> Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.
>
> I should have added that I will be wearing an orange shirt and
> orange socks.

I'll be wearing blue.
I have little tolerance for bigots, whether green or orange.

On 2024-03-16 1:16 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
> On 16/03/2024 17:53, Graham wrote:
>> On 2024-03-15 1:01 p.m., Graham wrote:
>
>>> Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.
>>
>> I should have added that I will be wearing an orange shirt and
>> orange socks.
>
> I'll be wearing blue.
> I have little tolerance for bigots, whether green or orange.

I'm NOT bigoted. It's just my contrarian nature!
Shouldn't we be wearing leeks in our lapels instead? After all,
Patrick was a Welshman:-)

Graham wrote:

> On 2024-03-16 1:16 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 16/03/2024 17:53, Graham wrote:
>>> On 2024-03-15 1:01 p.m., Graham wrote:
>>
>>>> Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.
>>>
>>> I should have added that I will be wearing an orange shirt and
>>> orange socks.
>>
>> I'll be wearing blue.
>> I have little tolerance for bigots, whether green or orange.

> I'm NOT bigoted. It's just my contrarian nature!
> Shouldn't we be wearing leeks in our lapels instead? After all,
> Patrick was a Welshman:-)

No poteen for you, then, Graham...!!!

And leeks are full of bothersome sand in any case...!!!

;-P

"What is Irish poteen?

Poitín: An Irish Spirit:
Poitín (in English, this is pronounced roughly as poteen or pocheen) can be described as Irish moonshine. A mostly rural product, it was made of potatoes, in some cases, and barley, in others. Poitín was produced on small pot stills, originally over peat fires..."

--
GM

On 2024-03-16, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
> On 2024-03-16 7:05 a.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:
>> On 16 Mar 2024 12:58:12 GMT, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-03-16, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> On 3/16/2024 5:21 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-03-15, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/15/2024 5:49 PM, Graham wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-03-15 3:06 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2024-03-15 3:58 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 3/15/2024 3:01 PM, Graham wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> LOL!  I don't much care about "St. Patrick's Day" but it's the only
>>>>>>>>> time of year I can find corned beef brisket.  I'm not inclined to go
>>>>>>>>> to the trouble of corning a brisket myself.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't do the St. Patrick's Day. I do have some Irish Catholic
>>>>>>>> ancestry and my mother used to do corned beef, cabbage and boiled
>>>>>>>> potatoes thing every year and it was probably my least favourite
>>>>>>>> dinner of the year, followed by another other meal that involved
>>>>>>>> cabbage.  I am not adverse to the corned beef part but I just can't do
>>>>>>>> it that day with the expectation of all the other supposedly
>>>>>>>> traditional Irish stuff.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Including the ubiquitous banshee music.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As if bagpipes are all that pleasant. LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> There are several different kinds of pipes. Northumbrian smallpipes
>>>>> can be quite pleasant. They sound kind of like an oboe on steroids.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQSEn-SZzpM
>>>>>
>>>>> It takes a couple of minutes before the pipes come in. They're playing
>>>>> alongside a flute.
>>>>>
>>>> True, but that's folk music. Not the screeling of full on bagpipes.
>>>
>>> Skreeling bagpipes _are_ folk music.
>>
>> In part, I had a laugh when my father piped in the haggis for Bobbie
>> Burns Night at a mess in Tokyo. The American wife standing next to
>> me was astounded when he played 'Deep in the Heart of Dixie' she said
>> 'Oh, I didn't know bag pipes could play American tunes' - idiot!
>
> They can't play ANY tune!!!!!!!

Except Amazing Grace, of course. And Scotland the Brave. And dozens
(or hundreds) of jigs, marches, reels, strathspeys, and hornpipes.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On 2024-03-16, S Viemeister <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
> On 16/03/2024 17:53, Graham wrote:
>> On 2024-03-15 1:01 p.m., Graham wrote:
>
>>> Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.
>>
>> I should have added that I will be wearing an orange shirt and
>> orange socks.
>
> I'll be wearing blue.
> I have little tolerance for bigots, whether green or orange.

I'll be wearing whatever's next in my closet. Black or gray pants,
probably a white t-shirt, and a blue flannel shirt.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On 2024-03-16 3:16 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
> On 16/03/2024 17:53, Graham wrote:
>> On 2024-03-15 1:01 p.m., Graham wrote:
>
>>> Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.
>>
>> I should have added that I will be wearing an orange shirt and
>> orange socks.
>
> I'll be wearing blue.
> I have little tolerance for bigots, whether green or orange.

It's curious how the Catholic and Protestant Irish carry on about
incidents that happened years ago. The Catholics are hung up by
slaughters committed in during the 17th century when the Protestant
slaughtered large numbers of Catholics basically in retaliation for
atrocities committed by Catholics against the Irish. Meanwhile the
English have seen the Irish rise up against them numerous times while
England was busy dealing with other conflicts. There were too many
incidents where the English were dealing with one serious threat and the
Irish rose up and stabbed them in the back.

Back in the early 70s I attended a presentation by the head of Sinn
Fein, the provisional wing of the IRA. If I had not heart the claim with
my own ears I would not have believed it. This guy claimed that the
British army for the poverty of the Catholics saying that they forced
poor Catholics to have large families. He did not explain the mechanics
of that but I guess I was naive enough to think that the Pope and the RC
church and their stand on birth control probably had more to do with
that than the British army.

On 2024-03-16 4:02 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:

> It's curious how the Catholic and Protestant Irish carry on about
> incidents that happened years ago. The Catholics are hung up by
> slaughters committed in during the  17th century when the Protestant
> slaughtered  large numbers of Catholics basically in retaliation for
> atrocities committed by Catholics against the Irish. Meanwhile the
> English have seen the Irish rise up against them numerous times while
> England was busy dealing with other conflicts. There were too many
> incidents where the English were dealing with one serious threat and the
> Irish rose up and stabbed them in the back.
>
> Back in the early 70s I attended a presentation by the head of Sinn
> Fein, the provisional wing of the IRA. If I had not heart the claim with
> my own ears I would not have believed it. This guy claimed that the
> British army for the poverty of the Catholics saying that they forced
> poor Catholics to have large families. He did not explain the mechanics
> of that but I guess I was naive enough to think that the Pope and the RC
> church and their stand on birth control probably had more to do with
> that than the British army.
>
Religion! Always fucking religion! The curse of humanity!

On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 18:02:33 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2024-03-16 3:16 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 16/03/2024 17:53, Graham wrote:
>>> On 2024-03-15 1:01 p.m., Graham wrote:
>>
>>>> Sunday looks to be a good day to make orange marmalade.
>>>
>>> I should have added that I will be wearing an orange shirt and
>>> orange socks.
>>
>> I'll be wearing blue.
>> I have little tolerance for bigots, whether green or orange.
>
>It's curious how the Catholic and Protestant Irish carry on about
>incidents that happened years ago.

I saw a documentary about the Troubles. They interviewed people from
both sides who were heavily involved at the time, sometimes to the
point of doing jail time. Most of them were ashamed of their own
ruthless sectarian behaviour and had done a complete 180. Some even
went to schools to tell kids what insanity it all was and to warn them
never to become like that.

On 3/16/2024 6:22 PM, Graham wrote:
> On 2024-03-16 4:02 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> It's curious how the Catholic and Protestant Irish carry on about
>> incidents that happened years ago.
>>
(snipped)

> Religion! Always fucking religion! The curse of humanity!

Calm down, please. None of that nonsense has anything to do with why
some people like corned beef and cabbage.

I don't give a rip about Easter, either, but the so-called religious
holiday won't stop me from cooking braised lamb shanks that weekend.
It's close to the Spring equinox. :)

Jill

Graham wrote:

> Religion! Always fucking religion! The curse of humanity!

Now, Graham, our Western Civilisation is *built* on the Judeo - Christian tradition...!!!

;-P

--
GM

On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 19:13:31 +0000, S Viemeister
<firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:

>On 16/03/2024 18:46, Ed P wrote:
>> On 3/16/2024 10:21 AM, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yes, he did die far too young, Harry Chapin likewise :(    That is a
>>> nice job of Barratts, the other Stan Rogers I love is Cape St. Mary's,
>>> though I confess there aren't any of his I dislike :)
>>
>>
>> We met Harry Chapin some years ago (1979?).  He was big on raising money
>> for a charity that fed people and after concerts he would sell and
>> autograph his books and T-shirts.  The Valley Forge Music Fair was a
>> smallish venue so my wife and I waited until the crowd died down.
>>
>> Standing in the lobby, we were talking to a woman that was there,
>> evidently waiting too.  Once the crowd was gone, she said to us "let me
>> introduce you to my husband" and took us over to meet Harry.  It was
>> very cool at the time.  My kids still have what we bought for them.
>>
>> https://whyhunger.org/who-we-are/history/
>His brother Tom did/does quite a bit of charity work, too. We used to
>take our kids to his concerts, and got to meet him.
>Good men, both of them.

Agreed -

On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 16:22:09 -0600, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

>On 2024-03-16 4:02 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> It's curious how the Catholic and Protestant Irish carry on about
>> incidents that happened years ago. The Catholics are hung up by
>> slaughters committed in during the  17th century when the Protestant
>> slaughtered  large numbers of Catholics basically in retaliation for
>> atrocities committed by Catholics against the Irish. Meanwhile the
>> English have seen the Irish rise up against them numerous times while
>> England was busy dealing with other conflicts. There were too many
>> incidents where the English were dealing with one serious threat and the
>> Irish rose up and stabbed them in the back.
>>
>> Back in the early 70s I attended a presentation by the head of Sinn
>> Fein, the provisional wing of the IRA. If I had not heart the claim with
>> my own ears I would not have believed it. This guy claimed that the
>> British army for the poverty of the Catholics saying that they forced
>> poor Catholics to have large families. He did not explain the mechanics
>> of that but I guess I was naive enough to think that the Pope and the RC
>> church and their stand on birth control probably had more to do with
>> that than the British army.
>>
>Religion! Always fucking religion! The curse of humanity!

Too fucking right!!!

On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 23:04:29 +0000, gregorymorrow@msn.com (GM) wrote:

>Graham wrote:
>
>
>> Religion! Always fucking religion! The curse of humanity!
>
>Now, Graham, our Western Civilisation is *built* on the Judeo - Christian tradition...!!!
>
>;-P

'You make his point!!

GM wrote:
> Graham wrote:
>
>
>> Religion! Always fucking religion! The curse of humanity!
>
> Now, Graham, our Western Civilisation is *built* on the Judeo - Christian
> tradition...!!!
>
> ;-P
>

And the christian holy book says homosexuals should be put to death.

lucretia@florence.it wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 19:13:31 +0000, S Viemeister
> <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
>
>> On 16/03/2024 18:46, Ed P wrote:
>>> On 3/16/2024 10:21 AM, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, he did die far too young, Harry Chapin likewise :(    That is a
>>>> nice job of Barratts, the other Stan Rogers I love is Cape St. Mary's,
>>>> though I confess there aren't any of his I dislike :)
>>>
>>>
>>> We met Harry Chapin some years ago (1979?).  He was big on raising money
>>> for a charity that fed people and after concerts he would sell and
>>> autograph his books and T-shirts.  The Valley Forge Music Fair was a
>>> smallish venue so my wife and I waited until the crowd died down.
>>>
>>> Standing in the lobby, we were talking to a woman that was there,
>>> evidently waiting too.  Once the crowd was gone, she said to us "let me
>>> introduce you to my husband" and took us over to meet Harry.  It was
>>> very cool at the time.  My kids still have what we bought for them.
>>>
>>> https://whyhunger.org/who-we-are/history/
>> His brother Tom did/does quite a bit of charity work, too. We used to
>> take our kids to his concerts, and got to meet him.
>> Good men, both of them.
>
> Agreed -
>

Thanks. I didn't realize harry chapin had died. "TAXI" is gone.

Not too long ago, there was a retired taxi driver that posted here, Until
her royal majesty banned him. Sort of a bum, like in Chapin's song. I think
his name was joseph thomas, or something.

Too bad he wasn't respectable enough for her majesty.

On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 20:39:34 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>lucretia@florence.it wrote:
>> On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 19:13:31 +0000, S Viemeister
>> <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
>>
>>>> https://whyhunger.org/who-we-are/history/
>>> His brother Tom did/does quite a bit of charity work, too. We used to
>>> take our kids to his concerts, and got to meet him.
>>> Good men, both of them.
>>
>> Agreed -
>>
>
>Thanks. I didn't realize harry chapin had died. "TAXI" is gone.
>
>Not too long ago, there was a retired taxi driver that posted here, Until
>her royal majesty banned him. Sort of a bum, like in Chapin's song. I think
>his name was joseph thomas, or something.
>
>Too bad he wasn't respectable enough for her majesty.

Towards the end, he said he was about to leave because he wasn't
getting many replies here. His posts were very long and often had
little to do with the posts he was replying to.

On 2024-03-17, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> lucretia@florence.it wrote:
>> On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 19:13:31 +0000, S Viemeister
>> <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
>>
>>> On 16/03/2024 18:46, Ed P wrote:
>>>> On 3/16/2024 10:21 AM, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, he did die far too young, Harry Chapin likewise :(    That is a
>>>>> nice job of Barratts, the other Stan Rogers I love is Cape St. Mary's,
>>>>> though I confess there aren't any of his I dislike :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We met Harry Chapin some years ago (1979?).  He was big on raising money
>>>> for a charity that fed people and after concerts he would sell and
>>>> autograph his books and T-shirts.  The Valley Forge Music Fair was a
>>>> smallish venue so my wife and I waited until the crowd died down.
>>>>
>>>> Standing in the lobby, we were talking to a woman that was there,
>>>> evidently waiting too.  Once the crowd was gone, she said to us "let me
>>>> introduce you to my husband" and took us over to meet Harry.  It was
>>>> very cool at the time.  My kids still have what we bought for them.
>>>>
>>>> https://whyhunger.org/who-we-are/history/
>>> His brother Tom did/does quite a bit of charity work, too. We used to
>>> take our kids to his concerts, and got to meet him.
>>> Good men, both of them.
>>
>> Agreed -
>>
>
> Thanks. I didn't realize harry chapin had died. "TAXI" is gone.
>
> Not too long ago, there was a retired taxi driver that posted here, Until
> her royal majesty banned him. Sort of a bum, like in Chapin's song. I think
> his name was joseph thomas, or something.
>
> Too bad he wasn't respectable enough for her majesty.

"Retired taxi driver and kook".

Fixed it for you.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 20:12:24 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>GM wrote:
>> Graham wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Religion! Always fucking religion! The curse of humanity!
>>
>> Now, Graham, our Western Civilisation is *built* on the Judeo - Christian
>> tradition...!!!
>>
>> ;-P
>>
>
>And the christian holy book says homosexuals should be put to death.
>
Do they have a good reason for that??

On 3/17/2024 5:11 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2024-03-17, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> lucretia@florence.it wrote:
>>> On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 19:13:31 +0000, S Viemeister
>>> <firstname@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 16/03/2024 18:46, Ed P wrote:
>>>>> On 3/16/2024 10:21 AM, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, he did die far too young, Harry Chapin likewise :(    That is a
>>>>>> nice job of Barratts, the other Stan Rogers I love is Cape St. Mary's,
>>>>>> though I confess there aren't any of his I dislike :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We met Harry Chapin some years ago (1979?).  He was big on raising money
>>>>> for a charity that fed people and after concerts he would sell and
>>>>> autograph his books and T-shirts.  The Valley Forge Music Fair was a
>>>>> smallish venue so my wife and I waited until the crowd died down.
>>>>>
>>>>> Standing in the lobby, we were talking to a woman that was there,
>>>>> evidently waiting too.  Once the crowd was gone, she said to us "let me
>>>>> introduce you to my husband" and took us over to meet Harry.  It was
>>>>> very cool at the time.  My kids still have what we bought for them.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://whyhunger.org/who-we-are/history/
>>>> His brother Tom did/does quite a bit of charity work, too. We used to
>>>> take our kids to his concerts, and got to meet him.
>>>> Good men, both of them.
>>>
>>> Agreed -
>>>
>>
>> Thanks. I didn't realize harry chapin had died. "TAXI" is gone.
>>
>> Not too long ago, there was a retired taxi driver that posted here, Until
>> her royal majesty banned him. Sort of a bum, like in Chapin's song. I think
>> his name was joseph thomas, or something.
>>
>> Too bad he wasn't respectable enough for her majesty.
>
> "Retired taxi driver and kook".
>
> Fixed it for you.
>
LOL Cindy! How can anyone "ban" someone on an unmoderated Usenet group?
Is Hank blethering about the guy who bragged about the number of
traffic tickets and/or accidents he'd had? The last I recall he was
whining about no one replying to his rambling, incoherent posts.
Methinks he wandered off because he wasn't getting enough attention.

OB Food: an omelette with brie

Jill

On 2024-03-17 8:28 a.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 20:12:24 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>

>>
>> And the christian holy book says homosexuals should be put to death.
>>
> Do they have a good reason for that??

I guess it is to be consistent with all the other human behaviours that
zealots think should be punished by death.

On 2024-03-17 8:32 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 3/17/2024 5:11 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2024-03-17, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>>>
>>> Too bad he wasn't respectable enough for her majesty.
>>
>> "Retired taxi driver and kook".
>>
>> Fixed it for you.
>>
> LOL Cindy!  How can anyone "ban" someone on an unmoderated Usenet group?

That would be a trick.

>  Is Hank blethering about the guy who bragged about the number of
> traffic tickets and/or accidents he'd had?  The last I recall he was
> whining about no one replying to his rambling, incoherent posts.
> Methinks he wandered off because he wasn't getting enough attention.

I suspect that is the case. I had no use for the guy and filtered him
shortly after his arrival here. Unlike some of the trolls here that some
people feel compelled to reply to, I was not seeing many of his posts
quoted in replies. It seems to have been one of the more successful
cases of ignoring trolls long enough for them to be disappointed by
their lack of trolling success and getting bored enough to move on.

> OB Food:  an omelette with brie
>
> Jill

On 3/17/2024 10:21 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> I suspect that is the case. I had no use for the guy and filtered him
> shortly after his arrival here. Unlike some of the trolls here that some
> people feel compelled to reply to, I was not seeing many of his posts
> quoted in replies. It seems to have been one of the more successful
> cases of ignoring trolls long enough for them to be disappointed by
> their lack of trolling success and getting bored enough to move on.
>

Exactly right. He didn't get the attention he wanted so he left. He
wasn't a very good troll.

Jill

On 3/17/2024 10:14 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2024-03-17 8:28 a.m., lucretia@florence.it wrote:
>> On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 20:12:24 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
>
>>>
>>> And the christian holy book says homosexuals should be put to death.
>>>
>> Do they have a good reason for that??
>
> I guess it is to be consistent with all the other human behaviours that
> zealots think should be punished by death.

According to whatever religious fanatical interpretation, women who
commit adultery should be pelted with rocks until they are dead. It's
okay for the man to cat around, as long as he's not married to them. In
some religous cultures young females have their clitoris removed so they
cannot experience sexual pleasure. That's for the man to have, not the
woman. What kind of bullshit religous crap is this?!

Jill

lucretia@florence.it wrote:

> On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 23:04:29 +0000, gregorymorrow@msn.com (GM) wrote:

>>Graham wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Religion! Always fucking religion! The curse of humanity!
>>
>>Now, Graham, our Western Civilisation is *built* on the Judeo - Christian tradition...!!!
>>
>>;-P

> 'You make his point!!

So, then, Lucrezia, I guess Graham owes me a "royalty" or a "commission' - right...!!!???

Graham can give me all that valuable stock he owns in Canadian uranium mines and Hydro-Québec...

;-D

--
GM

Hank Rogers wrote:

> GM wrote:
>> Graham wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Religion! Always fucking religion! The curse of humanity!
>>
>> Now, Graham, our Western Civilisation is *built* on the Judeo - Christian
>> tradition...!!!
>>
>> ;-P
>>

> And the christian holy book says homosexuals should be put to death

Sire Hank, as one has most very sincerely taken Our Lord into my heart - as I have so very, Very, VERY humbly done! - I can assure you that he forgives us our sins and imperfections, as long as we promise to "do better"...

--
GM