On 01 Apr 2024 22:46:59 GMT, Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> wrote:

>On 2024-03-30, D wrote:
>
>> I read an interview with a very famous french
>> baker who lives in sweden, and he said
>> _always_ go for butter when baking, never margarine.
>>
>> Do you think this is true?
>
>I cannot see why you would make up a lie like that.

I'd be more surprised if a famous French baker said he uses margarine
all the time. I don't think D's altogether there when it comes to
food.

D wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, 1 Apr 2024, cshenk wrote:
>
> > D wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, 31 Mar 2024, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
> > >
> > > > D wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > When I was young, for some reason, we used margarine, but
> > > > > somewhere along the way my grandfather set me straight and
> > > > > after that, only real butter.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Here in the USA margarine was touted for y-e-a-r-s to be soooooo
> > > > much healthier for you than butter. And of course it was
> > > > cheaper at 79¢, 89¢, or a $1 per pound than at $2 (or less)
> > > > per pound for butter.
> > > >
> > >
> > > It is interesting to note how often the government or scientists
> > > change their minds about what is good and not so good. Then you
> > > can add quantity into the mix. If you consume something up to X
> > > it is good or neutral, and at X+1 bad. Add to that all the nr of
> > > fad diets as well.
> >
> > Oh don't get me started on all the fad diets. Someplace in my 30's
> > they kicked in with a bang. The current ones are
> > starch/wheat/gluten make you fat. No it doesn't. Over eating
> > makes you fat.
>
> I'll stick with my meat, butter and regular fat milk until the end of
> my days, no matter what the scientists say. =)
>
> Strangely enough, without knowing it, apparently I've been following
> something called the 14:10 diet for a big part of my life. Don't ask
> me if I benefit from it, have no idea.

Humm. Intermittant fasting of short durations. Me, I just make sure
there's plenty of fresh veggies and seafood and the rest sorts itself
out. Neither of us are overweight. We never have been.

Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2024-04-01 1:41 p.m., D wrote:
> >
>
> > > Oh don't get me started on all the fad diets.  Someplace in my
> > > 30's they kicked in with a bang.  The current ones are
> > > starch/wheat/gluten make you fat.  No it doesn't.  Over eating
> > > makes you fat.
> >
> > I'll stick with my meat, butter and regular fat milk until the end
> > of my days, no matter what the scientists say. =)
> >
> > Strangely enough, without knowing it, apparently I've been
> > following something called the 14:10 diet for a big part of my
> > life. Don't ask me if I benefit from it, have no idea.
>
> My wife did the Atkins diet years ago and has stuck to a low carb
> diet ever since. She eats all kinds of meat, dairy and fat. She
> rarely has bread, rolls or pastries.She has lots of fruit and
> vegetables. She keeps nice and trim despite eating lots of food. He
> typical breakfast is a bowl of blueberries with yogurt and a little
> granola on top, an egg or two and a big chunk of cheese.

Low carb diets just trade calories around between sources though.
That's all they have ever been.

Ed P wrote:

> On 4/1/2024 1:30 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > D wrote:
>
> > >
> > > It is interesting to note how often the government or scientists
> > > change their minds about what is good and not so good. Then you
> > > can add quantity into the mix. If you consume something up to X
> > > it is good or neutral, and at X+1 bad. Add to that all the nr of
> > > fad diets as well.
> >
> > Oh don't get me started on all the fad diets. Someplace in my 30's
> > they kicked in with a bang. The current ones are
> > starch/wheat/gluten make you fat. No it doesn't. Over eating
> > makes you fat.
>
>
> That is true, but some foods are healthier than others. You need
> some nutritional balance.
>
> Some recent testing had two people consuming the same number of
> calories every day. One diet though, had more fiber and some of the
> calories just passed through for better weight control.
>
> Knowing that, a more common sense approach to choosing the foods you
> like rather than some fad is much better. Better to grab a handful
> of berries than a candy for the same calories.

Yup! I'm off to Asian grocery for lotus root. Don has a hankering for
a sweet treat. It's ginger in honey drizzled lotus root snacks.

Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2024-04-01 2:46 p.m., Ed P wrote:
> > On 4/1/2024 1:30 PM, cshenk wrote:
>
> > > Oh don't get me started on all the fad diets.  Someplace in my
> > > 30's they kicked in with a bang.  The current ones are
> > > starch/wheat/gluten make you fat.  No it doesn't.  Over eating
> > > makes you fat.
> >
> >
> > That is true, but some foods are healthier than others.  You need
> > some nutritional balance.
> >
> > Some recent testing had two people consuming the same number of
> > calories every day.  One diet though, had more fiber and some of
> > the calories just passed through for better weight control.
>
> That works for me. Being lactose intolerant and having gall bladder
> issues, dairy products and fatty foods causes things to go through my
> digestive system at high speed. I like to thing that the energy taken
> to chew and swallow and the peristaltic action in my guts is likely
> to be greater than any nutrition that could be derived from the food
> in that short period.

That would suck. Sorry about that.

> > Knowing that, a more common sense approach to choosing the foods
> > you like rather than some fad is much better.  Better to grab a
> > handful of berries than a candy for the same calories.
>
>
> After heart surgery I was on a strict diet. A lot of foods were
> taboo, especially the sorts of things most people snack on. I found
> that 3-4 grapes made a satisfying snack.

Glad you found something! Avocados work in the diet?

On Tue, 2 Apr 2024, cshenk wrote:

> D wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 1 Apr 2024, cshenk wrote:
>>
>>> D wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 31 Mar 2024, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> D wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> When I was young, for some reason, we used margarine, but
>>>>>> somewhere along the way my grandfather set me straight and
>>>>>> after that, only real butter.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Here in the USA margarine was touted for y-e-a-r-s to be soooooo
>>>>> much healthier for you than butter. And of course it was
>>>>> cheaper at 79¢, 89¢, or a $1 per pound than at $2 (or less)
>>>>> per pound for butter.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is interesting to note how often the government or scientists
>>>> change their minds about what is good and not so good. Then you
>>>> can add quantity into the mix. If you consume something up to X
>>>> it is good or neutral, and at X+1 bad. Add to that all the nr of
>>>> fad diets as well.
>>>
>>> Oh don't get me started on all the fad diets. Someplace in my 30's
>>> they kicked in with a bang. The current ones are
>>> starch/wheat/gluten make you fat. No it doesn't. Over eating
>>> makes you fat.
>>
>> I'll stick with my meat, butter and regular fat milk until the end of
>> my days, no matter what the scientists say. =)
>>
>> Strangely enough, without knowing it, apparently I've been following
>> something called the 14:10 diet for a big part of my life. Don't ask
>> me if I benefit from it, have no idea.
>
> Humm. Intermittant fasting of short durations. Me, I just make sure
> there's plenty of fresh veggies and seafood and the rest sorts itself
> out. Neither of us are overweight. We never have been.
>

That is another aspect. Both my parents and grandparents were all slim, so
I guess I have the same genes as well.

On Tue, 2 Apr 2024, cshenk wrote:

> Ed P wrote:
>
>> On 4/1/2024 1:30 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>> D wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> It is interesting to note how often the government or scientists
>>>> change their minds about what is good and not so good. Then you
>>>> can add quantity into the mix. If you consume something up to X
>>>> it is good or neutral, and at X+1 bad. Add to that all the nr of
>>>> fad diets as well.
>>>
>>> Oh don't get me started on all the fad diets. Someplace in my 30's
>>> they kicked in with a bang. The current ones are
>>> starch/wheat/gluten make you fat. No it doesn't. Over eating
>>> makes you fat.
>>
>>
>> That is true, but some foods are healthier than others. You need
>> some nutritional balance.
>>
>> Some recent testing had two people consuming the same number of
>> calories every day. One diet though, had more fiber and some of the
>> calories just passed through for better weight control.
>>
>> Knowing that, a more common sense approach to choosing the foods you
>> like rather than some fad is much better. Better to grab a handful
>> of berries than a candy for the same calories.
>
> Yup! I'm off to Asian grocery for lotus root. Don has a hankering for
> a sweet treat. It's ginger in honey drizzled lotus root snacks.
>

My go to snacks are nuts and beef jerky or smoked pork. It's very
difficult for me to eat more than 3 small pieces of chocolate, it fills me
up completely. My wife envies me that ability. I can have a chocolate bar
in the refridgerator for a month nibbling off small pieces. If she finds
it, it's gone in an instant.

On 2024-04-02 4:10 p.m., D wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, 2 Apr 2024, cshenk wrote:

>> Yup!  I'm off to Asian grocery for lotus root.  Don has a hankering for
>> a sweet treat.  It's ginger in honey drizzled lotus root snacks.
>>
>
> My go to snacks are nuts and beef jerky or smoked pork. It's very
> difficult for me to eat more than 3 small pieces of chocolate, it fills
> me up completely. My wife envies me that ability. I can have a chocolate
> bar in the refridgerator for a month nibbling off small pieces. If she
> finds it, it's gone in an instant.

My wife used to get upset when I would buy large bars of dark chocolate
but eventually laid off on the nagging when she realized how long it
would last. I would have a square once in a while and one of those bars
would last a month or more. I could not do that with milk chocolate.

On Tue, 2 Apr 2024, Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2024-04-02 4:10 p.m., D wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 2 Apr 2024, cshenk wrote:
>
>>> Yup!  I'm off to Asian grocery for lotus root.  Don has a hankering for
>>> a sweet treat.  It's ginger in honey drizzled lotus root snacks.
>>>
>>
>> My go to snacks are nuts and beef jerky or smoked pork. It's very difficult
>> for me to eat more than 3 small pieces of chocolate, it fills me up
>> completely. My wife envies me that ability. I can have a chocolate bar in
>> the refridgerator for a month nibbling off small pieces. If she finds it,
>> it's gone in an instant.
>
>
> My wife used to get upset when I would buy large bars of dark chocolate but
> eventually laid off on the nagging when she realized how long it would last.
> I would have a square once in a while and one of those bars would last a
> month or more. I could not do that with milk chocolate.
>

Yes, exactly! Except that in my case, it would be milk chocolate, since I
don't like dark chocolate except in cookies and hot chocolate.

D wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, 2 Apr 2024, cshenk wrote:
>
> > D wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 1 Apr 2024, cshenk wrote:
> > >
> > > > D wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, 31 Mar 2024, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > D wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > When I was young, for some reason, we used margarine, but
> > > > > > > somewhere along the way my grandfather set me straight
> > > > > > > and after that, only real butter.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here in the USA margarine was touted for y-e-a-r-s to be
> > > > > > soooooo much healthier for you than butter. And of course
> > > > > > it was cheaper at 79¢, 89¢, or a $1 per pound than at $2
> > > > > > (or less) per pound for butter.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It is interesting to note how often the government or
> > > > > scientists change their minds about what is good and not so
> > > > > good. Then you can add quantity into the mix. If you consume
> > > > > something up to X it is good or neutral, and at X+1 bad. Add
> > > > > to that all the nr of fad diets as well.
> > > >
> > > > Oh don't get me started on all the fad diets. Someplace in my
> > > > 30's they kicked in with a bang. The current ones are
> > > > starch/wheat/gluten make you fat. No it doesn't. Over eating
> > > > makes you fat.
> > >
> > > I'll stick with my meat, butter and regular fat milk until the
> > > end of my days, no matter what the scientists say. =)
> > >
> > > Strangely enough, without knowing it, apparently I've been
> > > following something called the 14:10 diet for a big part of my
> > > life. Don't ask me if I benefit from it, have no idea.
> >
> > Humm. Intermittant fasting of short durations. Me, I just make
> > sure there's plenty of fresh veggies and seafood and the rest sorts
> > itself out. Neither of us are overweight. We never have been.
> >
>
> That is another aspect. Both my parents and grandparents were all
> slim, so I guess I have the same genes as well.

Runs in mine too. My sister is 5ft11 and weighs 132. Brother is 6ft1
and weighs about 146. Don is 5ft9 and weighs 152. Charlotte is 5ft3
and weighs 131-134 (bounces a bit). Then you get shrimpy little me at
5ft1 and trying to gain up to 105 but bouncing from 99-102 these days.

On Wed, 3 Apr 2024, cshenk wrote:

> D wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 2 Apr 2024, cshenk wrote:
>>
>>> D wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 1 Apr 2024, cshenk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> D wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 31 Mar 2024, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> D wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I was young, for some reason, we used margarine, but
>>>>>>>> somewhere along the way my grandfather set me straight
>>>>>>>> and after that, only real butter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here in the USA margarine was touted for y-e-a-r-s to be
>>>>>>> soooooo much healthier for you than butter. And of course
>>>>>>> it was cheaper at 79¢, 89¢, or a $1 per pound than at $2
>>>>>>> (or less) per pound for butter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is interesting to note how often the government or
>>>>>> scientists change their minds about what is good and not so
>>>>>> good. Then you can add quantity into the mix. If you consume
>>>>>> something up to X it is good or neutral, and at X+1 bad. Add
>>>>>> to that all the nr of fad diets as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh don't get me started on all the fad diets. Someplace in my
>>>>> 30's they kicked in with a bang. The current ones are
>>>>> starch/wheat/gluten make you fat. No it doesn't. Over eating
>>>>> makes you fat.
>>>>
>>>> I'll stick with my meat, butter and regular fat milk until the
>>>> end of my days, no matter what the scientists say. =)
>>>>
>>>> Strangely enough, without knowing it, apparently I've been
>>>> following something called the 14:10 diet for a big part of my
>>>> life. Don't ask me if I benefit from it, have no idea.
>>>
>>> Humm. Intermittant fasting of short durations. Me, I just make
>>> sure there's plenty of fresh veggies and seafood and the rest sorts
>>> itself out. Neither of us are overweight. We never have been.
>>>
>>
>> That is another aspect. Both my parents and grandparents were all
>> slim, so I guess I have the same genes as well.
>
> Runs in mine too. My sister is 5ft11 and weighs 132. Brother is 6ft1
> and weighs about 146. Don is 5ft9 and weighs 152. Charlotte is 5ft3
> and weighs 131-134 (bounces a bit). Then you get shrimpy little me at
> 5ft1 and trying to gain up to 105 but bouncing from 99-102 these days.
>

My wife complained that I was too skinny at 53 kg, so what can a husband
do but try and solve the problem? ;)

After about 4 years of body weight training, adding lunch and
proteinshakes after the 2:nd year I've now managed to reach a stable 61
kg with abs included. I'm 178 cm.

The problem is that I don't enjoy it, but as long as she trains to keep
fit for me, I feel that I should reciprocate. =)

Sadly she won't let me buy russian steroids, so I think I'm stuck at 61
unless I start going to the gym which I loathe, so 61 it is!

On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 21:58:10 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 3 Apr 2024, cshenk wrote:
>
>> Runs in mine too. My sister is 5ft11 and weighs 132. Brother is 6ft1
>> and weighs about 146. Don is 5ft9 and weighs 152. Charlotte is 5ft3
>> and weighs 131-134 (bounces a bit). Then you get shrimpy little me at
>> 5ft1 and trying to gain up to 105 but bouncing from 99-102 these days.
>
>My wife complained that I was too skinny at 53 kg, so what can a husband
>do but try and solve the problem? ;)
>
>After about 4 years of body weight training, adding lunch and
>proteinshakes after the 2:nd year I've now managed to reach a stable 61
>kg with abs included. I'm 178 cm.
>
>The problem is that I don't enjoy it, but as long as she trains to keep
>fit for me, I feel that I should reciprocate. =)

What a weird, bordering on sick, relationship.

On Thu, 4 Apr 2024, Bruce wrote:

> On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 21:58:10 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 3 Apr 2024, cshenk wrote:
>>
>>> Runs in mine too. My sister is 5ft11 and weighs 132. Brother is 6ft1
>>> and weighs about 146. Don is 5ft9 and weighs 152. Charlotte is 5ft3
>>> and weighs 131-134 (bounces a bit). Then you get shrimpy little me at
>>> 5ft1 and trying to gain up to 105 but bouncing from 99-102 these days.
>>
>> My wife complained that I was too skinny at 53 kg, so what can a husband
>> do but try and solve the problem? ;)
>>
>> After about 4 years of body weight training, adding lunch and
>> proteinshakes after the 2:nd year I've now managed to reach a stable 61
>> kg with abs included. I'm 178 cm.
>>
>> The problem is that I don't enjoy it, but as long as she trains to keep
>> fit for me, I feel that I should reciprocate. =)
>
> What a weird, bordering on sick, relationship.

If you only knew Bruce. I feel sorry that you never had the chance to
experience a similar relationship. But god will have mercy on your soul
anyway. =)

On Thu, 4 Apr 2024 10:20:18 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

>
>
>On Thu, 4 Apr 2024, Bruce wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 21:58:10 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>> My wife complained that I was too skinny at 53 kg, so what can a husband
>>> do but try and solve the problem? ;)
>>>
>>> After about 4 years of body weight training, adding lunch and
>>> proteinshakes after the 2:nd year I've now managed to reach a stable 61
>>> kg with abs included. I'm 178 cm.
>>>
>>> The problem is that I don't enjoy it, but as long as she trains to keep
>>> fit for me, I feel that I should reciprocate. =)
>>
>> What a weird, bordering on sick, relationship.
>
>If you only knew Bruce. I feel sorry that you never had the chance to
>experience a similar relationship.

A relationship where 2 partners are putting weight requirements on
each other? No, thanks.

On 3/31/2024 4:12 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
> D wrote:
>
>> When I was young, for some reason, we used margarine, but somewhere
>> along the way my grandfather set me straight and after that, only real
>> butter.
>
>
> Here in the USA margarine was touted for y-e-a-r-s to be soooooo much
> healthier for you than butter.  And of course it was cheaper at 79¢,
> 89¢, or a $1 per pound than at $2 (or less) per pound for butter.
>
They still sell both margarine and non-dairy coffee creamer.

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On 4/2/2024 11:56 AM, cshenk wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> On 2024-04-01 1:41 p.m., D wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>> Oh don't get me started on all the fad diets.  Someplace in my
>>>> 30's they kicked in with a bang.  The current ones are
>>>> starch/wheat/gluten make you fat.  No it doesn't.  Over eating
>>>> makes you fat.
>>>
>>> I'll stick with my meat, butter and regular fat milk until the end
>>> of my days, no matter what the scientists say. =)
>>>
>>> Strangely enough, without knowing it, apparently I've been
>>> following something called the 14:10 diet for a big part of my
>>> life. Don't ask me if I benefit from it, have no idea.
>>
>> My wife did the Atkins diet years ago and has stuck to a low carb
>> diet ever since. She eats all kinds of meat, dairy and fat. She
>> rarely has bread, rolls or pastries.She has lots of fruit and
>> vegetables. She keeps nice and trim despite eating lots of food. He
>> typical breakfast is a bowl of blueberries with yogurt and a little
>> granola on top, an egg or two and a big chunk of cheese.
>
> Low carb diets just trade calories around between sources though.
> That's all they have ever been.
>
You are a fucking idiot. I'm not looking forward to when your invalid
husband dies, and you move to St. Louis to be with his ass-licking
substitute. You'll probable show him how to get back on this NG.

--
--Bryan
For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
tested on laboratory animals.

"Most of the food described here is nauseating.
We're just too courteous to say so."
-- Cindy Hamilton

On Thu, 4 Apr 2024, Bruce wrote:

> On Thu, 4 Apr 2024 10:20:18 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 4 Apr 2024, Bruce wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 21:58:10 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My wife complained that I was too skinny at 53 kg, so what can a husband
>>>> do but try and solve the problem? ;)
>>>>
>>>> After about 4 years of body weight training, adding lunch and
>>>> proteinshakes after the 2:nd year I've now managed to reach a stable 61
>>>> kg with abs included. I'm 178 cm.
>>>>
>>>> The problem is that I don't enjoy it, but as long as she trains to keep
>>>> fit for me, I feel that I should reciprocate. =)
>>>
>>> What a weird, bordering on sick, relationship.
>>
>> If you only knew Bruce. I feel sorry that you never had the chance to
>> experience a similar relationship.
>
> A relationship where 2 partners are putting weight requirements on
> each other? No, thanks.
>

Bruce, let's book a time together. I think you need to work on your
reading comprehension. On the other hand, maybe turning the text upside
down might work for you? ;)

On 2024-04-04 9:25 a.m., D wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 4 Apr 2024, Bruce wrote:
>
>>
>> A relationship where 2 partners are putting weight requirements on
>> each other? No, thanks.
>>
>
> Bruce, let's book a time together. I think you need to work on your
> reading comprehension. On the other hand, maybe turning the text upside
> down might work for you? ;)

Bruce's reading comprehension is good enough for his purposes. He reads
only enough to spark some an idea of what he thinks is a witty remark.
You are new here and seem to get some enjoyment out of his sniping. It
got tiresome a long time ago.

On Thu, 4 Apr 2024 12:27:08 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2024-04-04 9:25 a.m., D wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 4 Apr 2024, Bruce wrote:
>>
>>> A relationship where 2 partners are putting weight requirements on
>>> each other? No, thanks.
>>
>> Bruce, let's book a time together. I think you need to work on your
>> reading comprehension. On the other hand, maybe turning the text upside
>> down might work for you? ;)
>
>Bruce's reading comprehension is good enough for his purposes. He reads
>only enough to spark some an idea of what he thinks is a witty remark.
>You are new here and seem to get some enjoyment out of his sniping. It
>got tiresome a long time ago.

Dave, please stop sniping at me. It became boring a long time ago.

Bruce wrote:

> On Thu, 4 Apr 2024 12:27:08 -0400, Dave Smith
> <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>>On 2024-04-04 9:25 a.m., D wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, 4 Apr 2024, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>>> A relationship where 2 partners are putting weight requirements on
>>>> each other? No, thanks.
>>>
>>> Bruce, let's book a time together. I think you need to work on your
>>> reading comprehension. On the other hand, maybe turning the text upside
>>> down might work for you? ;)
>>
>>Bruce's reading comprehension is good enough for his purposes. He reads
>>only enough to spark some an idea of what he thinks is a witty remark.
>>You are new here and seem to get some enjoyment out of his sniping. It
>>got tiresome a long time ago.

> Dave, please stop sniping at me. It became boring a long time ago.

Sniping?

BryanGSimmons wrote:
> On 4/2/2024 11:56 AM, cshenk wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-04-01 1:41 p.m., D wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>>> Oh don't get me started on all the fad diets.  Someplace in my
>>>>> 30's they kicked in with a bang.  The current ones are
>>>>> starch/wheat/gluten make you fat.  No it doesn't.  Over eating
>>>>> makes you fat.
>>>>
>>>> I'll stick with my meat, butter and regular fat milk until the end
>>>> of my  days, no matter what the scientists say. =)
>>>>
>>>> Strangely enough, without knowing it, apparently I've been
>>>> following  something called the 14:10 diet for a big part of my
>>>> life. Don't ask me  if I benefit from it, have no idea.
>>>
>>> My wife did the Atkins diet years ago and has stuck to a low carb
>>> diet ever since. She eats all kinds of meat, dairy and fat. She
>>> rarely has bread, rolls or pastries.She has lots of fruit and
>>> vegetables.  She keeps nice and trim despite eating lots of food.  He
>>> typical breakfast is a bowl of blueberries with yogurt and a little
>>> granola on top, an egg or two and a big chunk of cheese.
>>
>> Low carb diets just trade calories around between sources though.
>> That's all they have ever been.
> >
> You are a fucking idiot.  I'm not looking forward to when your invalid
> husband dies, and you move to St. Louis to be with his ass-licking
> substitute.  You'll probable show him how to get back on this NG.
>

Naw, that's a complicated job, best left to the squirtz man.

Hank Rogers wrote:

> BryanGSimmons wrote:
>> On 4/2/2024 11:56 AM, cshenk wrote:
>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-04-01 1:41 p.m., D wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Oh don't get me started on all the fad diets.  Someplace in my
>>>>>> 30's they kicked in with a bang.  The current ones are
>>>>>> starch/wheat/gluten make you fat.  No it doesn't.  Over eating
>>>>>> makes you fat.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll stick with my meat, butter and regular fat milk until the end
>>>>> of my  days, no matter what the scientists say. =)
>>>>>
>>>>> Strangely enough, without knowing it, apparently I've been
>>>>> following  something called the 14:10 diet for a big part of my
>>>>> life. Don't ask me  if I benefit from it, have no idea.
>>>>
>>>> My wife did the Atkins diet years ago and has stuck to a low carb
>>>> diet ever since. She eats all kinds of meat, dairy and fat. She
>>>> rarely has bread, rolls or pastries.She has lots of fruit and
>>>> vegetables.  She keeps nice and trim despite eating lots of food.  He
>>>> typical breakfast is a bowl of blueberries with yogurt and a little
>>>> granola on top, an egg or two and a big chunk of cheese.
>>>
>>> Low carb diets just trade calories around between sources though.
>>> That's all they have ever been.
>> >
>> You are a fucking idiot.  I'm not looking forward to when your invalid
>> husband dies, and you move to St. Louis to be with his ass-licking
>> substitute.  You'll probable show him how to get back on this NG.
>>

> Naw, that's a complicated job, best left to the squirtz man.

Did Sqwertz and Unca Tojo run off together to some South Seas tropic isle, one wonders...???

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GM

D wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, 3 Apr 2024, cshenk wrote:
>
> > D wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2 Apr 2024, cshenk wrote:
> > >
> > > > D wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 1 Apr 2024, cshenk wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > D wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sun, 31 Mar 2024, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > D wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > When I was young, for some reason, we used margarine,
> > > > > > > > > but somewhere along the way my grandfather set me
> > > > > > > > > straight and after that, only real butter.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Here in the USA margarine was touted for y-e-a-r-s to be
> > > > > > > > soooooo much healthier for you than butter. And of
> > > > > > > > course it was cheaper at 79¢, 89¢, or a $1 per pound
> > > > > > > > than at $2 (or less) per pound for butter.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It is interesting to note how often the government or
> > > > > > > scientists change their minds about what is good and not
> > > > > > > so good. Then you can add quantity into the mix. If you
> > > > > > > consume something up to X it is good or neutral, and at
> > > > > > > X+1 bad. Add to that all the nr of fad diets as well.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oh don't get me started on all the fad diets. Someplace in
> > > > > > my 30's they kicked in with a bang. The current ones are
> > > > > > starch/wheat/gluten make you fat. No it doesn't. Over
> > > > > > eating makes you fat.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll stick with my meat, butter and regular fat milk until the
> > > > > end of my days, no matter what the scientists say. =)
> > > > >
> > > > > Strangely enough, without knowing it, apparently I've been
> > > > > following something called the 14:10 diet for a big part of my
> > > > > life. Don't ask me if I benefit from it, have no idea.
> > > >
> > > > Humm. Intermittant fasting of short durations. Me, I just make
> > > > sure there's plenty of fresh veggies and seafood and the rest
> > > > sorts itself out. Neither of us are overweight. We never have
> > > > been.
> > > >
> > >
> > > That is another aspect. Both my parents and grandparents were all
> > > slim, so I guess I have the same genes as well.
> >
> > Runs in mine too. My sister is 5ft11 and weighs 132. Brother is
> > 6ft1 and weighs about 146. Don is 5ft9 and weighs 152. Charlotte
> > is 5ft3 and weighs 131-134 (bounces a bit). Then you get shrimpy
> > little me at 5ft1 and trying to gain up to 105 but bouncing from
> > 99-102 these days.
> >
>
> My wife complained that I was too skinny at 53 kg, so what can a
> husband do but try and solve the problem? ;)
>
> After about 4 years of body weight training, adding lunch and
> proteinshakes after the 2:nd year I've now managed to reach a stable
> 61 kg with abs included. I'm 178 cm.
>
> The problem is that I don't enjoy it, but as long as she trains to
> keep fit for me, I feel that I should reciprocate. =)
>
> Sadly she won't let me buy russian steroids, so I think I'm stuck at
> 61 unless I start going to the gym which I loathe, so 61 it is!

That's wickedly thin. 134.5lbs and 5ft10?

Ed P wrote:

> On 4/1/2024 1:30 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > D wrote:
>
> > >
> > > It is interesting to note how often the government or scientists
> > > change their minds about what is good and not so good. Then you
> > > can add quantity into the mix. If you consume something up to X
> > > it is good or neutral, and at X+1 bad. Add to that all the nr of
> > > fad diets as well.
> >
> > Oh don't get me started on all the fad diets. Someplace in my 30's
> > they kicked in with a bang. The current ones are
> > starch/wheat/gluten make you fat. No it doesn't. Over eating
> > makes you fat.
>
>
> That is true, but some foods are healthier than others. You need
> some nutritional balance.
>
> Some recent testing had two people consuming the same number of
> calories every day. One diet though, had more fiber and some of the
> calories just passed through for better weight control.
>
> Knowing that, a more common sense approach to choosing the foods you
> like rather than some fad is much better. Better to grab a handful
> of berries than a candy for the same calories.

True. I just made my Asian grocery trip for mushrooms and greens. HT
just doesn't have mustard greens anymore, space taken for collard, kale
and turnip greens.

Got Yu choy (small/baby), Gai Lan, long flat bean (variety pf green
bean which may be whole Italian flat beans), fish ball (steamer stuff)
pack of 12, baby king oyster and cloud ear mushrooms. Also some
Korean cut style beef ribs and a pretty squared plate plus my Kim Lee
chicken broth powder (was running low).

Most expensive item was 8.99 for the chicken broth powder but it's a 6
month supply here. Total was 42.54. Next run there will need 5lbs
rice (I like high end brands and admit I'm a rice snob).

cshenk wrote:

> Ed P wrote:
>
> > On 4/1/2024 1:30 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > > D wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > > > It is interesting to note how often the government or scientists
> > > > change their minds about what is good and not so good. Then you
> > > > can add quantity into the mix. If you consume something up to X
> > > > it is good or neutral, and at X+1 bad. Add to that all the nr of
> > > > fad diets as well.
> > >
> > > Oh don't get me started on all the fad diets. Someplace in my
> > > 30's they kicked in with a bang. The current ones are
> > > starch/wheat/gluten make you fat. No it doesn't. Over eating
> > > makes you fat.
> >
> >
> > That is true, but some foods are healthier than others. You need
> > some nutritional balance.
> >
> > Some recent testing had two people consuming the same number of
> > calories every day. One diet though, had more fiber and some of the
> > calories just passed through for better weight control.
> >
> > Knowing that, a more common sense approach to choosing the foods you
> > like rather than some fad is much better. Better to grab a handful
> > of berries than a candy for the same calories.
>
> Yup! I'm off to Asian grocery for lotus root. Don has a hankering
> for a sweet treat. It's ginger in honey drizzled lotus root snacks.

Rats, forgot the lotus root...