News wrote:

> On 2/1/2022 9:03 AM, Bigbird wrote:
> > ~misfit~ wrote:
> >
> > > On 1/02/2022 1:30 pm, Bigbird wrote:
> > > > Alan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 2022-01-30 9:01 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > Alan wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 2022-01-23 5:24 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > > > build wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It's getting ridiculous when the cars are put on
> > > > > > > > > slower low profile tyres simply to go with a
> > > > > > > > > ridiculous fashion.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > AIUI the new tyres are not even "low profile".
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Unless I have figured it wrongly the rear tyre is a
> > > > > > > > 405/65 R18 (like many higher profile road cars) and the
> > > > > > > > front a higher AR at 305/86 R18 (very much higher
> > > > > > > > profile than most road cars.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I stand to be corrected.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You have figured it VERY wrongly.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Then correct me.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > So F1 tires are sized (in mm for width and overall diameter)
> > > > > as 305/720R18 front and 405/720R18
> > > > >
> > > > > Converting from one to the other involves taking the overall
> > > > > diameter (720) subtracting the wheel diameter (which you
> > > > > convert to millimetres, so 457.2) then you divide by 2
> > > >
> > > > I thought that was probably what I had missed.
> > > >
> > > > Well caught.
> > > >
> > > > If only you could manage to do it without looking a fucking
> > > > ASSHOLE.
> > > >
> > > > A test you have yet to pass.
> > > >
> > > > :-D
> > >
> > > So I make them to be roughly:
> > >
> > > 405/32R18 on the rear and 305/43R18 on the front.
> > >
> > > I stand to be corrected (and wonder why, if they want
> > > road-relevance they don't use nomenclature that buyers of road
> > > car tyres understand).
> >
> > I think the reason I didn't pick up the error is that I was
> > expecting relatively high numbers.
> >
> > It's not until I thought about what is being calculated that I
> > realised that the width of the tyre on an F1 car means that for a
> > similar profile the sidewall is proportionally larger.
> >
> > That is why these do not look like low profile road tyres but more
> > like the tyres on van the I use for the dogs. 215/55 R16
> >
> > If you scale down 720 R18 to the vans tyre diameter you get a 16"
> > rim so pretty much dead on analogy.
> >
> > To have a 720mm wheel that looked like a low profile road car tyre
> > (say a 225/45R18) you'd have to have a 19.6"rim or to look like a
> > 225/40 R19 the rims would have to be another inch bigger than that.
> >
> > So while they look more like road tyres from the side they do not
> > resemble "fashionable" low profile road tyres at all.
> >
>
>
> The rare admission: didn't understand the formula.

A common admission: "don't understand a word you utter."

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On 2022-02-01 10:24 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> News wrote:
>
>> On 2/1/2022 9:03 AM, Bigbird wrote:
>>> ~misfit~ wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/02/2022 1:30 pm, Bigbird wrote:
>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2022-01-30 9:01 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2022-01-23 5:24 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>>>> build wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's getting ridiculous when the cars are put on
>>>>>>>>>> slower low profile tyres simply to go with a
>>>>>>>>>> ridiculous fashion.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> AIUI the new tyres are not even "low profile".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Unless I have figured it wrongly the rear tyre is a
>>>>>>>>> 405/65 R18 (like many higher profile road cars) and the
>>>>>>>>> front a higher AR at 305/86 R18 (very much higher
>>>>>>>>> profile than most road cars.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I stand to be corrected.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You have figured it VERY wrongly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then correct me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So F1 tires are sized (in mm for width and overall diameter)
>>>>>> as 305/720R18 front and 405/720R18
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Converting from one to the other involves taking the overall
>>>>>> diameter (720) subtracting the wheel diameter (which you
>>>>>> convert to millimetres, so 457.2) then you divide by 2
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought that was probably what I had missed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well caught.
>>>>>
>>>>> If only you could manage to do it without looking a fucking
>>>>> ASSHOLE.
>>>>>
>>>>> A test you have yet to pass.
>>>>>
>>>>> :-D
>>>>
>>>> So I make them to be roughly:
>>>>
>>>> 405/32R18 on the rear and 305/43R18 on the front.
>>>>
>>>> I stand to be corrected (and wonder why, if they want
>>>> road-relevance they don't use nomenclature that buyers of road
>>>> car tyres understand).
>>>
>>> I think the reason I didn't pick up the error is that I was
>>> expecting relatively high numbers.
>>>
>>> It's not until I thought about what is being calculated that I
>>> realised that the width of the tyre on an F1 car means that for a
>>> similar profile the sidewall is proportionally larger.
>>>
>>> That is why these do not look like low profile road tyres but more
>>> like the tyres on van the I use for the dogs. 215/55 R16
>>>
>>> If you scale down 720 R18 to the vans tyre diameter you get a 16"
>>> rim so pretty much dead on analogy.
>>>
>>> To have a 720mm wheel that looked like a low profile road car tyre
>>> (say a 225/45R18) you'd have to have a 19.6"rim or to look like a
>>> 225/40 R19 the rims would have to be another inch bigger than that.
>>>
>>> So while they look more like road tyres from the side they do not
>>> resemble "fashionable" low profile road tyres at all.
>>>
>>
>>
>> The rare admission: didn't understand the formula.
>
> A common admission: "don't understand a word you utter."
>

It is amusing that a guy who wants to argue so much of the technical
information about F1 doesn't understand something so basic as how racing
tire sizes are designated and how it relates to the way that road tire
sizes are called out.

On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 12:55:07 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> It is amusing

small things amuse small minds

Alan wrote:

> On 2022-02-01 10:24 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > News wrote:
> >
> > > On 2/1/2022 9:03 AM, Bigbird wrote:
> > > > ~misfit~ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 1/02/2022 1:30 pm, Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > Alan wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 2022-01-30 9:01 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > > > Alan wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 2022-01-23 5:24 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > build wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > It's getting ridiculous when the cars are put on
> > > > > > > > > > > slower low profile tyres simply to go with a
> > > > > > > > > > > ridiculous fashion.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > AIUI the new tyres are not even "low profile".
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Unless I have figured it wrongly the rear tyre is a
> > > > > > > > > > 405/65 R18 (like many higher profile road cars) and
> > > > > > > > > > the front a higher AR at 305/86 R18 (very much
> > > > > > > > > > higher profile than most road cars.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I stand to be corrected.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You have figured it VERY wrongly.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Then correct me.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So F1 tires are sized (in mm for width and overall
> > > > > > > diameter) as 305/720R18 front and 405/720R18
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Converting from one to the other involves taking the
> > > > > > > overall diameter (720) subtracting the wheel diameter
> > > > > > > (which you convert to millimetres, so 457.2) then you
> > > > > > > divide by 2
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I thought that was probably what I had missed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well caught.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If only you could manage to do it without looking a fucking
> > > > > > ASSHOLE.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A test you have yet to pass.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > :-D
> > > > >
> > > > > So I make them to be roughly:
> > > > >
> > > > > 405/32R18 on the rear and 305/43R18 on the front.
> > > > >
> > > > > I stand to be corrected (and wonder why, if they want
> > > > > road-relevance they don't use nomenclature that buyers of road
> > > > > car tyres understand).
> > > >
> > > > I think the reason I didn't pick up the error is that I was
> > > > expecting relatively high numbers.
> > > >
> > > > It's not until I thought about what is being calculated that I
> > > > realised that the width of the tyre on an F1 car means that for
> > > > a similar profile the sidewall is proportionally larger.
> > > >
> > > > That is why these do not look like low profile road tyres but
> > > > more like the tyres on van the I use for the dogs. 215/55 R16
> > > >
> > > > If you scale down 720 R18 to the vans tyre diameter you get a
> > > > 16" rim so pretty much dead on analogy.
> > > >
> > > > To have a 720mm wheel that looked like a low profile road car
> > > > tyre (say a 225/45R18) you'd have to have a 19.6"rim or to look
> > > > like a 225/40 R19 the rims would have to be another inch bigger
> > > > than that.
> > > >
> > > > So while they look more like road tyres from the side they do
> > > > not resemble "fashionable" low profile road tyres at all.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The rare admission: didn't understand the formula.
> >
> > A common admission: "don't understand a word you utter."
> >
>
> It is amusing that a guy who wants to argue so much of the technical
> information about F1 doesn't understand something so basic as how
> racing tire sizes are designated and how it relates to the way that
> road tire sizes are called out.

What a ridiculous sentence. You have a very loose hold on reality
and/or are fabricating in order to be an annoying little cunt.

It's pretty clear you have been on a steep learning curve the last few
days.

Unlike you I don't claim knowledge or expertise that is well beyond the
scope of what is actually true.

Until this thread was started I hadn't considered what the tyre profile
referred to and from the way you have been writing and how long it took
you to pick up on my error (despite spending your life on these groups)
it doesn't appear you knew any better.

Lying is a repugnant trait, one that you embrace frequently but don't
let it define you.

--
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Felicity
George R
Irving S
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Enjoy!

On 2/1/2022 4:06 PM, Bigbird wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2022-02-01 10:24 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>> News wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/1/2022 9:03 AM, Bigbird wrote:
>>>>> ~misfit~ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/02/2022 1:30 pm, Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2022-01-30 9:01 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-01-23 5:24 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> build wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's getting ridiculous when the cars are put on
>>>>>>>>>>>> slower low profile tyres simply to go with a
>>>>>>>>>>>> ridiculous fashion.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> AIUI the new tyres are not even "low profile".
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Unless I have figured it wrongly the rear tyre is a
>>>>>>>>>>> 405/65 R18 (like many higher profile road cars) and
>>>>>>>>>>> the front a higher AR at 305/86 R18 (very much
>>>>>>>>>>> higher profile than most road cars.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I stand to be corrected.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You have figured it VERY wrongly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Then correct me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So F1 tires are sized (in mm for width and overall
>>>>>>>> diameter) as 305/720R18 front and 405/720R18
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Converting from one to the other involves taking the
>>>>>>>> overall diameter (720) subtracting the wheel diameter
>>>>>>>> (which you convert to millimetres, so 457.2) then you
>>>>>>>> divide by 2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I thought that was probably what I had missed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well caught.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If only you could manage to do it without looking a fucking
>>>>>>> ASSHOLE.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A test you have yet to pass.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> :-D
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I make them to be roughly:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 405/32R18 on the rear and 305/43R18 on the front.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I stand to be corrected (and wonder why, if they want
>>>>>> road-relevance they don't use nomenclature that buyers of road
>>>>>> car tyres understand).
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the reason I didn't pick up the error is that I was
>>>>> expecting relatively high numbers.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not until I thought about what is being calculated that I
>>>>> realised that the width of the tyre on an F1 car means that for
>>>>> a similar profile the sidewall is proportionally larger.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is why these do not look like low profile road tyres but
>>>>> more like the tyres on van the I use for the dogs. 215/55 R16
>>>>>
>>>>> If you scale down 720 R18 to the vans tyre diameter you get a
>>>>> 16" rim so pretty much dead on analogy.
>>>>>
>>>>> To have a 720mm wheel that looked like a low profile road car
>>>>> tyre (say a 225/45R18) you'd have to have a 19.6"rim or to look
>>>>> like a 225/40 R19 the rims would have to be another inch bigger
>>>>> than that.
>>>>>
>>>>> So while they look more like road tyres from the side they do
>>>>> not resemble "fashionable" low profile road tyres at all.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The rare admission: didn't understand the formula.
>>>
>>> A common admission: "don't understand a word you utter."
>>>
>>
>> It is amusing that a guy who wants to argue so much of the technical
>> information about F1 doesn't understand something so basic as how
>> racing tire sizes are designated and how it relates to the way that
>> road tire sizes are called out.
>
> What a ridiculous sentence. You have a very loose hold on reality
> and/or are fabricating in order to be an annoying little cunt.
>
> It's pretty clear you have been on a steep learning curve the last few
> days.
>
> Unlike you I don't claim knowledge or expertise that is well beyond the
> scope of what is actually true.
>
> Until this thread was started I hadn't considered what the tyre profile
> referred to and from the way you have been writing and how long it took
> you to pick up on my error (despite spending your life on these groups)
> it doesn't appear you knew any better.
>
> Lying is a repugnant trait, one that you embrace frequently but don't
> let it define you.
>

ROFLMAO, a RASF1 Liars' Clinic!

On 2022-02-01 1:06 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2022-02-01 10:24 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>> News wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/1/2022 9:03 AM, Bigbird wrote:
>>>>> ~misfit~ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/02/2022 1:30 pm, Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2022-01-30 9:01 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-01-23 5:24 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> build wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's getting ridiculous when the cars are put on
>>>>>>>>>>>> slower low profile tyres simply to go with a
>>>>>>>>>>>> ridiculous fashion.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> AIUI the new tyres are not even "low profile".
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Unless I have figured it wrongly the rear tyre is a
>>>>>>>>>>> 405/65 R18 (like many higher profile road cars) and
>>>>>>>>>>> the front a higher AR at 305/86 R18 (very much
>>>>>>>>>>> higher profile than most road cars.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I stand to be corrected.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You have figured it VERY wrongly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Then correct me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So F1 tires are sized (in mm for width and overall
>>>>>>>> diameter) as 305/720R18 front and 405/720R18
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Converting from one to the other involves taking the
>>>>>>>> overall diameter (720) subtracting the wheel diameter
>>>>>>>> (which you convert to millimetres, so 457.2) then you
>>>>>>>> divide by 2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I thought that was probably what I had missed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well caught.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If only you could manage to do it without looking a fucking
>>>>>>> ASSHOLE.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A test you have yet to pass.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> :-D
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I make them to be roughly:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 405/32R18 on the rear and 305/43R18 on the front.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I stand to be corrected (and wonder why, if they want
>>>>>> road-relevance they don't use nomenclature that buyers of road
>>>>>> car tyres understand).
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the reason I didn't pick up the error is that I was
>>>>> expecting relatively high numbers.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not until I thought about what is being calculated that I
>>>>> realised that the width of the tyre on an F1 car means that for
>>>>> a similar profile the sidewall is proportionally larger.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is why these do not look like low profile road tyres but
>>>>> more like the tyres on van the I use for the dogs. 215/55 R16
>>>>>
>>>>> If you scale down 720 R18 to the vans tyre diameter you get a
>>>>> 16" rim so pretty much dead on analogy.
>>>>>
>>>>> To have a 720mm wheel that looked like a low profile road car
>>>>> tyre (say a 225/45R18) you'd have to have a 19.6"rim or to look
>>>>> like a 225/40 R19 the rims would have to be another inch bigger
>>>>> than that.
>>>>>
>>>>> So while they look more like road tyres from the side they do
>>>>> not resemble "fashionable" low profile road tyres at all.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The rare admission: didn't understand the formula.
>>>
>>> A common admission: "don't understand a word you utter."
>>>
>>
>> It is amusing that a guy who wants to argue so much of the technical
>> information about F1 doesn't understand something so basic as how
>> racing tire sizes are designated and how it relates to the way that
>> road tire sizes are called out.
>
> What a ridiculous sentence. You have a very loose hold on reality
> and/or are fabricating in order to be an annoying little cunt.
>
> It's pretty clear you have been on a steep learning curve the last few
> days.
>
> Unlike you I don't claim knowledge or expertise that is well beyond the
> scope of what is actually true.
>
> Until this thread was started I hadn't considered what the tyre profile
> referred to and from the way you have been writing and how long it took
> you to pick up on my error (despite spending your life on these groups)
> it doesn't appear you knew any better.
>
> Lying is a repugnant trait, one that you embrace frequently but don't
> let it define you.
>

I'll just leave this here:

'Ummmm... ...no.

The "60" indicates that the section height of the tire is 60% of the
section width of the tire (the "185" or "195" in the size; which is not
tread width, BTW), and both of these figures are nominal and not
necessarily completely precise.

So a 185/60R14 tire is (nominally!) 185mm wide at its widest point (the
tread is narrower and (nominally!) 2 * (185 * .6)/25.4 + 14 = 22.74"
tall.'

<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata/c/Lc-YwDUjRuk/m/fX7iXIFo9q4J>

That was written in 2010.

If you had any class, you'd apologize.

On 2022-02-01 1:06 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2022-02-01 10:24 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>> News wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/1/2022 9:03 AM, Bigbird wrote:
>>>>> ~misfit~ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/02/2022 1:30 pm, Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2022-01-30 9:01 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-01-23 5:24 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> build wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's getting ridiculous when the cars are put on
>>>>>>>>>>>> slower low profile tyres simply to go with a
>>>>>>>>>>>> ridiculous fashion.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> AIUI the new tyres are not even "low profile".
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Unless I have figured it wrongly the rear tyre is a
>>>>>>>>>>> 405/65 R18 (like many higher profile road cars) and
>>>>>>>>>>> the front a higher AR at 305/86 R18 (very much
>>>>>>>>>>> higher profile than most road cars.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I stand to be corrected.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You have figured it VERY wrongly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Then correct me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So F1 tires are sized (in mm for width and overall
>>>>>>>> diameter) as 305/720R18 front and 405/720R18
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Converting from one to the other involves taking the
>>>>>>>> overall diameter (720) subtracting the wheel diameter
>>>>>>>> (which you convert to millimetres, so 457.2) then you
>>>>>>>> divide by 2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I thought that was probably what I had missed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well caught.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If only you could manage to do it without looking a fucking
>>>>>>> ASSHOLE.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A test you have yet to pass.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> :-D
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I make them to be roughly:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 405/32R18 on the rear and 305/43R18 on the front.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I stand to be corrected (and wonder why, if they want
>>>>>> road-relevance they don't use nomenclature that buyers of road
>>>>>> car tyres understand).
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the reason I didn't pick up the error is that I was
>>>>> expecting relatively high numbers.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not until I thought about what is being calculated that I
>>>>> realised that the width of the tyre on an F1 car means that for
>>>>> a similar profile the sidewall is proportionally larger.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is why these do not look like low profile road tyres but
>>>>> more like the tyres on van the I use for the dogs. 215/55 R16
>>>>>
>>>>> If you scale down 720 R18 to the vans tyre diameter you get a
>>>>> 16" rim so pretty much dead on analogy.
>>>>>
>>>>> To have a 720mm wheel that looked like a low profile road car
>>>>> tyre (say a 225/45R18) you'd have to have a 19.6"rim or to look
>>>>> like a 225/40 R19 the rims would have to be another inch bigger
>>>>> than that.
>>>>>
>>>>> So while they look more like road tyres from the side they do
>>>>> not resemble "fashionable" low profile road tyres at all.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The rare admission: didn't understand the formula.
>>>
>>> A common admission: "don't understand a word you utter."
>>>
>>
>> It is amusing that a guy who wants to argue so much of the technical
>> information about F1 doesn't understand something so basic as how
>> racing tire sizes are designated and how it relates to the way that
>> road tire sizes are called out.
>
> What a ridiculous sentence. You have a very loose hold on reality
> and/or are fabricating in order to be an annoying little cunt.
>
> It's pretty clear you have been on a steep learning curve the last few
> days.
>
> Unlike you I don't claim knowledge or expertise that is well beyond the
> scope of what is actually true.
>
> Until this thread was started I hadn't considered what the tyre profile
> referred to and from the way you have been writing and how long it took
> you to pick up on my error (despite spending your life on these groups)
> it doesn't appear you knew any better.
>
> Lying is a repugnant trait, one that you embrace frequently but don't
> let it define you.
>

<https://www.dropbox.com/s/xnd3f1yr7c1qlu3/IMG_4687.jpeg?dl=0>

On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 3:21:48 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> If you had any class, you'd apologize.

lol. you fucking dumb cunt

On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 3:21:48 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> If you had any class, you'd apologize.

ya because you have so much class lol

On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 3:31:52 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> <https://www.dropbox.com/s/xnd3f1yr7c1qlu3/IMG_4687.jpeg?dl=0>

are you 12 years old?

On 2022-02-01 4:54 p.m., texas gate wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 3:31:52 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
>
>> <https://www.dropbox.com/s/xnd3f1yr7c1qlu3/IMG_4687.jpeg?dl=0>
>
> are you 12 years old?

Why?

Do most 12 year olds have that collection?

Alan wrote:

> On 2022-02-01 1:06 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > Alan wrote:
> >
> > > On 2022-02-01 10:24 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > News wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 2/1/2022 9:03 AM, Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > ~misfit~ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 1/02/2022 1:30 pm, Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > > > Alan wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 2022-01-30 9:01 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Alan wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On 2022-01-23 5:24 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > build wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > It's getting ridiculous when the cars are put
> > > > > > > > > > > > > on slower low profile tyres simply to go with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > a ridiculous fashion.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > AIUI the new tyres are not even "low profile".
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Unless I have figured it wrongly the rear tyre
> > > > > > > > > > > > is a 405/65 R18 (like many higher profile road
> > > > > > > > > > > > cars) and the front a higher AR at 305/86 R18
> > > > > > > > > > > > (very much higher profile than most road cars.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I stand to be corrected.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > You have figured it VERY wrongly.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Then correct me.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So F1 tires are sized (in mm for width and overall
> > > > > > > > > diameter) as 305/720R18 front and 405/720R18
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Converting from one to the other involves taking the
> > > > > > > > > overall diameter (720) subtracting the wheel diameter
> > > > > > > > > (which you convert to millimetres, so 457.2) then you
> > > > > > > > > divide by 2
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I thought that was probably what I had missed.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Well caught.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If only you could manage to do it without looking a
> > > > > > > > fucking ASSHOLE.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > A test you have yet to pass.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > :-D
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So I make them to be roughly:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 405/32R18 on the rear and 305/43R18 on the front.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I stand to be corrected (and wonder why, if they want
> > > > > > > road-relevance they don't use nomenclature that buyers of
> > > > > > > road car tyres understand).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think the reason I didn't pick up the error is that I was
> > > > > > expecting relatively high numbers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's not until I thought about what is being calculated
> > > > > > that I realised that the width of the tyre on an F1 car
> > > > > > means that for a similar profile the sidewall is
> > > > > > proportionally larger.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That is why these do not look like low profile road tyres
> > > > > > but more like the tyres on van the I use for the dogs.
> > > > > > 215/55 R16
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you scale down 720 R18 to the vans tyre diameter you get
> > > > > > a 16" rim so pretty much dead on analogy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To have a 720mm wheel that looked like a low profile road
> > > > > > car tyre (say a 225/45R18) you'd have to have a 19.6"rim or
> > > > > > to look like a 225/40 R19 the rims would have to be another
> > > > > > inch bigger than that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So while they look more like road tyres from the side they
> > > > > > do not resemble "fashionable" low profile road tyres at all.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The rare admission: didn't understand the formula.
> > > >
> > > > A common admission: "don't understand a word you utter."
> > > >
> > >
> > > It is amusing that a guy who wants to argue so much of the
> > > technical information about F1 doesn't understand something so
> > > basic as how racing tire sizes are designated and how it relates
> > > to the way that road tire sizes are called out.
> >
> > What a ridiculous sentence. You have a very loose hold on reality
> > and/or are fabricating in order to be an annoying little cunt.
> >
> > It's pretty clear you have been on a steep learning curve the last
> > few days.
> >
> > Unlike you I don't claim knowledge or expertise that is well beyond
> > the scope of what is actually true.
> >
> > Until this thread was started I hadn't considered what the tyre
> > profile referred to and from the way you have been writing and how
> > long it took you to pick up on my error (despite spending your life
> > on these groups) it doesn't appear you knew any better.
> >
> > Lying is a repugnant trait, one that you embrace frequently but
> > don't let it define you.
> >
>
> <https://www.dropbox.com/s/xnd3f1yr7c1qlu3/IMG_4687.jpeg?dl=0>

I have no interest of pictures of you in your underwear with young boys
or whatever your untitled post might be.

:-D

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Alan wrote:

> On 2022-02-01 1:06 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > Alan wrote:
> >
> > > On 2022-02-01 10:24 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > News wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 2/1/2022 9:03 AM, Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > ~misfit~ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 1/02/2022 1:30 pm, Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > > > Alan wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 2022-01-30 9:01 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Alan wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On 2022-01-23 5:24 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > build wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > It's getting ridiculous when the cars are put
> > > > > > > > > > > > > on slower low profile tyres simply to go with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > a ridiculous fashion.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > AIUI the new tyres are not even "low profile".
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Unless I have figured it wrongly the rear tyre
> > > > > > > > > > > > is a 405/65 R18 (like many higher profile road
> > > > > > > > > > > > cars) and the front a higher AR at 305/86 R18
> > > > > > > > > > > > (very much higher profile than most road cars.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I stand to be corrected.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > You have figured it VERY wrongly.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Then correct me.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So F1 tires are sized (in mm for width and overall
> > > > > > > > > diameter) as 305/720R18 front and 405/720R18
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Converting from one to the other involves taking the
> > > > > > > > > overall diameter (720) subtracting the wheel diameter
> > > > > > > > > (which you convert to millimetres, so 457.2) then you
> > > > > > > > > divide by 2
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I thought that was probably what I had missed.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Well caught.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If only you could manage to do it without looking a
> > > > > > > > fucking ASSHOLE.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > A test you have yet to pass.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > :-D
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So I make them to be roughly:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 405/32R18 on the rear and 305/43R18 on the front.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I stand to be corrected (and wonder why, if they want
> > > > > > > road-relevance they don't use nomenclature that buyers of
> > > > > > > road car tyres understand).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think the reason I didn't pick up the error is that I was
> > > > > > expecting relatively high numbers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's not until I thought about what is being calculated
> > > > > > that I realised that the width of the tyre on an F1 car
> > > > > > means that for a similar profile the sidewall is
> > > > > > proportionally larger.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That is why these do not look like low profile road tyres
> > > > > > but more like the tyres on van the I use for the dogs.
> > > > > > 215/55 R16
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you scale down 720 R18 to the vans tyre diameter you get
> > > > > > a 16" rim so pretty much dead on analogy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To have a 720mm wheel that looked like a low profile road
> > > > > > car tyre (say a 225/45R18) you'd have to have a 19.6"rim or
> > > > > > to look like a 225/40 R19 the rims would have to be another
> > > > > > inch bigger than that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So while they look more like road tyres from the side they
> > > > > > do not resemble "fashionable" low profile road tyres at all.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The rare admission: didn't understand the formula.
> > > >
> > > > A common admission: "don't understand a word you utter."
> > > >
> > >
> > > It is amusing that a guy who wants to argue so much of the
> > > technical information about F1 doesn't understand something so
> > > basic as how racing tire sizes are designated and how it relates
> > > to the way that road tire sizes are called out.
> >
> > What a ridiculous sentence. You have a very loose hold on reality
> > and/or are fabricating in order to be an annoying little cunt.
> >
> > It's pretty clear you have been on a steep learning curve the last
> > few days.
> >
> > Unlike you I don't claim knowledge or expertise that is well beyond
> > the scope of what is actually true.
> >
> > Until this thread was started I hadn't considered what the tyre
> > profile referred to and from the way you have been writing and how
> > long it took you to pick up on my error (despite spending your life
> > on these groups) it doesn't appear you knew any better.
> >
> > Lying is a repugnant trait, one that you embrace frequently but
> > don't let it define you.
> >
>
> I'll just leave this here:
>
> 'Ummmm... ...no.
>
> The "60" indicates that the section height of the tire is 60% of the
> section width of the tire (the "185" or "195" in the size; which is
> not tread width, BTW), and both of these figures are nominal and not
> necessarily completely precise.
>
> So a 185/60R14 tire is (nominally!) 185mm wide at its widest point
> (the tread is narrower and (nominally!) 2 * (185 * .6)/25.4 + 14 =
> 22.74" tall.'
>
>
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata/c/Lc-YwDUjRuk/m/fX7iXIFo9q4J>

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Alan Baker
unread,
Sep 16, 2010, 7:31:26 PM
to
In article
<c96d7594-2304-4c19...@k13g2000vbq.googlegroups.com>,
"Tim M." <tomorrowe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Yup. But all other things being equal, the narrower section width will
typically have the narrower tread.

>
> That was written in 2010.
>
> If you had any class, you'd apologize.

Lol, WTF are you to talk of class with your constant misrepresentations
and trolling.

When you apologise for the misrepresentation above I'll think about it.

Show your "class" Baker.

When is the last time you apologized for the litany of falsehoods in
which I have caught you?

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On 2022-02-02 2:25 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2022-02-01 1:06 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-02-01 10:24 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>> News wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/1/2022 9:03 AM, Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>> ~misfit~ wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/02/2022 1:30 pm, Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-01-30 9:01 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-01-23 5:24 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> build wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's getting ridiculous when the cars are put
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on slower low profile tyres simply to go with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a ridiculous fashion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> AIUI the new tyres are not even "low profile".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless I have figured it wrongly the rear tyre
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a 405/65 R18 (like many higher profile road
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cars) and the front a higher AR at 305/86 R18
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (very much higher profile than most road cars.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I stand to be corrected.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You have figured it VERY wrongly.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Then correct me.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So F1 tires are sized (in mm for width and overall
>>>>>>>>>> diameter) as 305/720R18 front and 405/720R18
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Converting from one to the other involves taking the
>>>>>>>>>> overall diameter (720) subtracting the wheel diameter
>>>>>>>>>> (which you convert to millimetres, so 457.2) then you
>>>>>>>>>> divide by 2
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I thought that was probably what I had missed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well caught.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If only you could manage to do it without looking a
>>>>>>>>> fucking ASSHOLE.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A test you have yet to pass.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> :-D
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So I make them to be roughly:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 405/32R18 on the rear and 305/43R18 on the front.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I stand to be corrected (and wonder why, if they want
>>>>>>>> road-relevance they don't use nomenclature that buyers of
>>>>>>>> road car tyres understand).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think the reason I didn't pick up the error is that I was
>>>>>>> expecting relatively high numbers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's not until I thought about what is being calculated
>>>>>>> that I realised that the width of the tyre on an F1 car
>>>>>>> means that for a similar profile the sidewall is
>>>>>>> proportionally larger.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is why these do not look like low profile road tyres
>>>>>>> but more like the tyres on van the I use for the dogs.
>>>>>>> 215/55 R16
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you scale down 720 R18 to the vans tyre diameter you get
>>>>>>> a 16" rim so pretty much dead on analogy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To have a 720mm wheel that looked like a low profile road
>>>>>>> car tyre (say a 225/45R18) you'd have to have a 19.6"rim or
>>>>>>> to look like a 225/40 R19 the rims would have to be another
>>>>>>> inch bigger than that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So while they look more like road tyres from the side they
>>>>>>> do not resemble "fashionable" low profile road tyres at all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The rare admission: didn't understand the formula.
>>>>>
>>>>> A common admission: "don't understand a word you utter."
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is amusing that a guy who wants to argue so much of the
>>>> technical information about F1 doesn't understand something so
>>>> basic as how racing tire sizes are designated and how it relates
>>>> to the way that road tire sizes are called out.
>>>
>>> What a ridiculous sentence. You have a very loose hold on reality
>>> and/or are fabricating in order to be an annoying little cunt.
>>>
>>> It's pretty clear you have been on a steep learning curve the last
>>> few days.
>>>
>>> Unlike you I don't claim knowledge or expertise that is well beyond
>>> the scope of what is actually true.
>>>
>>> Until this thread was started I hadn't considered what the tyre
>>> profile referred to and from the way you have been writing and how
>>> long it took you to pick up on my error (despite spending your life
>>> on these groups) it doesn't appear you knew any better.
>>>
>>> Lying is a repugnant trait, one that you embrace frequently but
>>> don't let it define you.
>>>
>>
>> <https://www.dropbox.com/s/xnd3f1yr7c1qlu3/IMG_4687.jpeg?dl=0>
>
> I have no interest of pictures of you in your underwear with young boys
> or whatever your untitled post might be.
>
> :-D
>

So you looked, saw it was all books on vehicle dynamics, and punked.

On 2022-02-02 2:27 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2022-02-01 1:06 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-02-01 10:24 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>> News wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/1/2022 9:03 AM, Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>> ~misfit~ wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/02/2022 1:30 pm, Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-01-30 9:01 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-01-23 5:24 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> build wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's getting ridiculous when the cars are put
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on slower low profile tyres simply to go with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a ridiculous fashion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> AIUI the new tyres are not even "low profile".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless I have figured it wrongly the rear tyre
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a 405/65 R18 (like many higher profile road
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cars) and the front a higher AR at 305/86 R18
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (very much higher profile than most road cars.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I stand to be corrected.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You have figured it VERY wrongly.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Then correct me.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So F1 tires are sized (in mm for width and overall
>>>>>>>>>> diameter) as 305/720R18 front and 405/720R18
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Converting from one to the other involves taking the
>>>>>>>>>> overall diameter (720) subtracting the wheel diameter
>>>>>>>>>> (which you convert to millimetres, so 457.2) then you
>>>>>>>>>> divide by 2
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I thought that was probably what I had missed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well caught.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If only you could manage to do it without looking a
>>>>>>>>> fucking ASSHOLE.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A test you have yet to pass.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> :-D
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So I make them to be roughly:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 405/32R18 on the rear and 305/43R18 on the front.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I stand to be corrected (and wonder why, if they want
>>>>>>>> road-relevance they don't use nomenclature that buyers of
>>>>>>>> road car tyres understand).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think the reason I didn't pick up the error is that I was
>>>>>>> expecting relatively high numbers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's not until I thought about what is being calculated
>>>>>>> that I realised that the width of the tyre on an F1 car
>>>>>>> means that for a similar profile the sidewall is
>>>>>>> proportionally larger.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is why these do not look like low profile road tyres
>>>>>>> but more like the tyres on van the I use for the dogs.
>>>>>>> 215/55 R16
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you scale down 720 R18 to the vans tyre diameter you get
>>>>>>> a 16" rim so pretty much dead on analogy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To have a 720mm wheel that looked like a low profile road
>>>>>>> car tyre (say a 225/45R18) you'd have to have a 19.6"rim or
>>>>>>> to look like a 225/40 R19 the rims would have to be another
>>>>>>> inch bigger than that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So while they look more like road tyres from the side they
>>>>>>> do not resemble "fashionable" low profile road tyres at all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The rare admission: didn't understand the formula.
>>>>>
>>>>> A common admission: "don't understand a word you utter."
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is amusing that a guy who wants to argue so much of the
>>>> technical information about F1 doesn't understand something so
>>>> basic as how racing tire sizes are designated and how it relates
>>>> to the way that road tire sizes are called out.
>>>
>>> What a ridiculous sentence. You have a very loose hold on reality
>>> and/or are fabricating in order to be an annoying little cunt.
>>>
>>> It's pretty clear you have been on a steep learning curve the last
>>> few days.
>>>
>>> Unlike you I don't claim knowledge or expertise that is well beyond
>>> the scope of what is actually true.
>>>
>>> Until this thread was started I hadn't considered what the tyre
>>> profile referred to and from the way you have been writing and how
>>> long it took you to pick up on my error (despite spending your life
>>> on these groups) it doesn't appear you knew any better.
>>>
>>> Lying is a repugnant trait, one that you embrace frequently but
>>> don't let it define you.
>>>
>>
>> I'll just leave this here:
>>
>> 'Ummmm... ...no.
>>
>> The "60" indicates that the section height of the tire is 60% of the
>> section width of the tire (the "185" or "195" in the size; which is
>> not tread width, BTW), and both of these figures are nominal and not
>> necessarily completely precise.
>>
>> So a 185/60R14 tire is (nominally!) 185mm wide at its widest point
>> (the tread is narrower and (nominally!) 2 * (185 * .6)/25.4 + 14 =
>> 22.74" tall.'
>>
>>
> <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata/c/Lc-YwDUjRuk/m/fX7iXIFo9q4J>
>
> Points to
>
> Alan Baker's profile photo
> Alan Baker
> unread,
> Sep 16, 2010, 7:31:26 PM
> to
> In article
> <c96d7594-2304-4c19...@k13g2000vbq.googlegroups.com>,
> "Tim M." <tomorrowe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Yup. But all other things being equal, the narrower section width will
> typically have the narrower tread.
>
>>
>> That was written in 2010.
>>
>> If you had any class, you'd apologize.
>
> Lol, WTF are you to talk of class with your constant misrepresentations
> and trolling.
>
> When you apologise for the misrepresentation above I'll think about it.

What misrepresentation would that be?

>
> Show your "class" Baker.
>
> When is the last time you apologized for the litany of falsehoods in
> which I have caught you?

What falsehoods?

On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 10:28:51 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> What misrepresentation would that be?

> What falsehoods?

you fucking stupid trolling cock sucker

On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 10:27:57 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> So you looked, saw it was all books on vehicle dynamics, and punked.

fuck off brain dead

Alan wrote:

> On 2022-02-02 2:27 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > Alan wrote:
> >
> > > On 2022-02-01 1:06 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > Alan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 2022-02-01 10:24 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > News wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 2/1/2022 9:03 AM, Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > > > ~misfit~ wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 1/02/2022 1:30 pm, Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Alan wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On 2022-01-30 9:01 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Alan wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2022-01-23 5:24 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > build wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's getting ridiculous when the cars are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > put on slower low profile tyres simply to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go with a ridiculous fashion.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > AIUI the new tyres are not even "low
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > profile".
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless I have figured it wrongly the rear
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > tyre is a 405/65 R18 (like many higher
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > profile road cars) and the front a higher
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > AR at 305/86 R18 (very much higher profile
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > than most road cars.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I stand to be corrected.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > You have figured it VERY wrongly.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Then correct me.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > So F1 tires are sized (in mm for width and overall
> > > > > > > > > > > diameter) as 305/720R18 front and 405/720R18
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Converting from one to the other involves taking
> > > > > > > > > > > the overall diameter (720) subtracting the wheel
> > > > > > > > > > > diameter (which you convert to millimetres, so
> > > > > > > > > > > 457.2) then you divide by 2
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I thought that was probably what I had missed.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Well caught.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > If only you could manage to do it without looking a
> > > > > > > > > > fucking ASSHOLE.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > A test you have yet to pass.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > :-D
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So I make them to be roughly:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 405/32R18 on the rear and 305/43R18 on the front.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I stand to be corrected (and wonder why, if they want
> > > > > > > > > road-relevance they don't use nomenclature that
> > > > > > > > > buyers of road car tyres understand).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I think the reason I didn't pick up the error is that I
> > > > > > > > was expecting relatively high numbers.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It's not until I thought about what is being calculated
> > > > > > > > that I realised that the width of the tyre on an F1 car
> > > > > > > > means that for a similar profile the sidewall is
> > > > > > > > proportionally larger.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That is why these do not look like low profile road
> > > > > > > > tyres but more like the tyres on van the I use for the
> > > > > > > > dogs. 215/55 R16
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If you scale down 720 R18 to the vans tyre diameter you
> > > > > > > > get a 16" rim so pretty much dead on analogy.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To have a 720mm wheel that looked like a low profile
> > > > > > > > road car tyre (say a 225/45R18) you'd have to have a
> > > > > > > > 19.6"rim or to look like a 225/40 R19 the rims would
> > > > > > > > have to be another inch bigger than that.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So while they look more like road tyres from the side
> > > > > > > > they do not resemble "fashionable" low profile road
> > > > > > > > tyres at all.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The rare admission: didn't understand the formula.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A common admission: "don't understand a word you utter."
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It is amusing that a guy who wants to argue so much of the
> > > > > technical information about F1 doesn't understand something so
> > > > > basic as how racing tire sizes are designated and how it
> > > > > relates to the way that road tire sizes are called out.
> > > >
> > > > What a ridiculous sentence. You have a very loose hold on
> > > > reality and/or are fabricating in order to be an annoying
> > > > little cunt.
> > > >
> > > > It's pretty clear you have been on a steep learning curve the
> > > > last few days.
> > > >
> > > > Unlike you I don't claim knowledge or expertise that is well
> > > > beyond the scope of what is actually true.
> > > >
> > > > Until this thread was started I hadn't considered what the tyre
> > > > profile referred to and from the way you have been writing and
> > > > how long it took you to pick up on my error (despite spending
> > > > your life on these groups) it doesn't appear you knew any
> > > > better.
> > > >
> > > > Lying is a repugnant trait, one that you embrace frequently but
> > > > don't let it define you.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I'll just leave this here:
> > >
> > > 'Ummmm... ...no.
> > >
> > > The "60" indicates that the section height of the tire is 60% of
> > > the section width of the tire (the "185" or "195" in the size;
> > > which is not tread width, BTW), and both of these figures are
> > > nominal and not necessarily completely precise.
> > >
> > > So a 185/60R14 tire is (nominally!) 185mm wide at its widest point
> > > (the tread is narrower and (nominally!) 2 * (185 * .6)/25.4 + 14 =
> > > 22.74" tall.'
> > >
> > >
> >
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata/c/Lc-YwDUjRuk/m/fX7iXIFo9q4J>
> >
> > Points to
> >
> > Alan Baker's profile photo
> > Alan Baker
> > unread,
> > Sep 16, 2010, 7:31:26 PM
> > to
> > In article
> > <c96d7594-2304-4c19...@k13g2000vbq.googlegroups.com>,
> >"Tim M." <tomorrowe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Yup. But all other things being equal, the narrower section width
> > will typically have the narrower tread.
> >
> > >
> > > That was written in 2010.
> > >
> > > If you had any class, you'd apologize.
> >
> > Lol, WTF are you to talk of class with your constant
> > misrepresentations and trolling.
> >
> > When you apologise for the misrepresentation above I'll think about
> > it.
>
> What misrepresentation would that be?
>

Alan wrote:

> On 2022-02-02 2:25 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > Alan wrote:
> >
> > > On 2022-02-01 1:06 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > Alan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 2022-02-01 10:24 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > News wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 2/1/2022 9:03 AM, Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > > > ~misfit~ wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 1/02/2022 1:30 pm, Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Alan wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On 2022-01-30 9:01 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Alan wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2022-01-23 5:24 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > build wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's getting ridiculous when the cars are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > put on slower low profile tyres simply to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > go with a ridiculous fashion.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > AIUI the new tyres are not even "low
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > profile".
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless I have figured it wrongly the rear
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > tyre is a 405/65 R18 (like many higher
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > profile road cars) and the front a higher
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > AR at 305/86 R18 (very much higher profile
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > than most road cars.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I stand to be corrected.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > You have figured it VERY wrongly.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Then correct me.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > So F1 tires are sized (in mm for width and overall
> > > > > > > > > > > diameter) as 305/720R18 front and 405/720R18
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Converting from one to the other involves taking
> > > > > > > > > > > the overall diameter (720) subtracting the wheel
> > > > > > > > > > > diameter (which you convert to millimetres, so
> > > > > > > > > > > 457.2) then you divide by 2
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I thought that was probably what I had missed.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Well caught.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > If only you could manage to do it without looking a
> > > > > > > > > > fucking ASSHOLE.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > A test you have yet to pass.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > :-D
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So I make them to be roughly:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 405/32R18 on the rear and 305/43R18 on the front.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I stand to be corrected (and wonder why, if they want
> > > > > > > > > road-relevance they don't use nomenclature that
> > > > > > > > > buyers of road car tyres understand).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I think the reason I didn't pick up the error is that I
> > > > > > > > was expecting relatively high numbers.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It's not until I thought about what is being calculated
> > > > > > > > that I realised that the width of the tyre on an F1 car
> > > > > > > > means that for a similar profile the sidewall is
> > > > > > > > proportionally larger.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That is why these do not look like low profile road
> > > > > > > > tyres but more like the tyres on van the I use for the
> > > > > > > > dogs. 215/55 R16
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If you scale down 720 R18 to the vans tyre diameter you
> > > > > > > > get a 16" rim so pretty much dead on analogy.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To have a 720mm wheel that looked like a low profile
> > > > > > > > road car tyre (say a 225/45R18) you'd have to have a
> > > > > > > > 19.6"rim or to look like a 225/40 R19 the rims would
> > > > > > > > have to be another inch bigger than that.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So while they look more like road tyres from the side
> > > > > > > > they do not resemble "fashionable" low profile road
> > > > > > > > tyres at all.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The rare admission: didn't understand the formula.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A common admission: "don't understand a word you utter."
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It is amusing that a guy who wants to argue so much of the
> > > > > technical information about F1 doesn't understand something so
> > > > > basic as how racing tire sizes are designated and how it
> > > > > relates to the way that road tire sizes are called out.
> > > >
> > > > What a ridiculous sentence. You have a very loose hold on
> > > > reality and/or are fabricating in order to be an annoying
> > > > little cunt.
> > > >
> > > > It's pretty clear you have been on a steep learning curve the
> > > > last few days.
> > > >
> > > > Unlike you I don't claim knowledge or expertise that is well
> > > > beyond the scope of what is actually true.
> > > >
> > > > Until this thread was started I hadn't considered what the tyre
> > > > profile referred to and from the way you have been writing and
> > > > how long it took you to pick up on my error (despite spending
> > > > your life on these groups) it doesn't appear you knew any
> > > > better.
> > > >
> > > > Lying is a repugnant trait, one that you embrace frequently but
> > > > don't let it define you.
> > > >
> > >
> > > <https://www.dropbox.com/s/xnd3f1yr7c1qlu3/IMG_4687.jpeg?dl=0>
> >
> > I have no interest of pictures of you in your underwear with young
> > boys or whatever your untitled post might be.
> >
> > :-D
> >
>
> So you looked, saw it was all books on vehicle dynamics, and punked.

Another falsehood; you demonstrate your unintelligence and dishonesty
so readily.

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Enjoy!

Alan wrote:

> On 2022-02-02 2:25 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
> > I have no interest of pictures of you in your underwear with young
> > boys or whatever your untitled post might be.
> >
> > :-D
> >
>
> So you looked,

No, but I assume I guessed correctly then.

:-)

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Felicity
George R
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Enjoy!

On 2022-02-04 2:11 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2022-02-02 2:27 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-02-01 1:06 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2022-02-01 10:24 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>> News wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2/1/2022 9:03 AM, Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>>>> ~misfit~ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 1/02/2022 1:30 pm, Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-01-30 9:01 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-01-23 5:24 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's getting ridiculous when the cars are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put on slower low profile tyres simply to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go with a ridiculous fashion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AIUI the new tyres are not even "low
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> profile".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless I have figured it wrongly the rear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tyre is a 405/65 R18 (like many higher
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> profile road cars) and the front a higher
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AR at 305/86 R18 (very much higher profile
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than most road cars.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I stand to be corrected.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have figured it VERY wrongly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then correct me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So F1 tires are sized (in mm for width and overall
>>>>>>>>>>>> diameter) as 305/720R18 front and 405/720R18
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Converting from one to the other involves taking
>>>>>>>>>>>> the overall diameter (720) subtracting the wheel
>>>>>>>>>>>> diameter (which you convert to millimetres, so
>>>>>>>>>>>> 457.2) then you divide by 2
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I thought that was probably what I had missed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well caught.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If only you could manage to do it without looking a
>>>>>>>>>>> fucking ASSHOLE.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> A test you have yet to pass.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> :-D
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So I make them to be roughly:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 405/32R18 on the rear and 305/43R18 on the front.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I stand to be corrected (and wonder why, if they want
>>>>>>>>>> road-relevance they don't use nomenclature that
>>>>>>>>>> buyers of road car tyres understand).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think the reason I didn't pick up the error is that I
>>>>>>>>> was expecting relatively high numbers.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's not until I thought about what is being calculated
>>>>>>>>> that I realised that the width of the tyre on an F1 car
>>>>>>>>> means that for a similar profile the sidewall is
>>>>>>>>> proportionally larger.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is why these do not look like low profile road
>>>>>>>>> tyres but more like the tyres on van the I use for the
>>>>>>>>> dogs. 215/55 R16
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you scale down 720 R18 to the vans tyre diameter you
>>>>>>>>> get a 16" rim so pretty much dead on analogy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To have a 720mm wheel that looked like a low profile
>>>>>>>>> road car tyre (say a 225/45R18) you'd have to have a
>>>>>>>>> 19.6"rim or to look like a 225/40 R19 the rims would
>>>>>>>>> have to be another inch bigger than that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So while they look more like road tyres from the side
>>>>>>>>> they do not resemble "fashionable" low profile road
>>>>>>>>> tyres at all.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The rare admission: didn't understand the formula.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A common admission: "don't understand a word you utter."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is amusing that a guy who wants to argue so much of the
>>>>>> technical information about F1 doesn't understand something so
>>>>>> basic as how racing tire sizes are designated and how it
>>>>>> relates to the way that road tire sizes are called out.
>>>>>
>>>>> What a ridiculous sentence. You have a very loose hold on
>>>>> reality and/or are fabricating in order to be an annoying
>>>>> little cunt.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's pretty clear you have been on a steep learning curve the
>>>>> last few days.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unlike you I don't claim knowledge or expertise that is well
>>>>> beyond the scope of what is actually true.
>>>>>
>>>>> Until this thread was started I hadn't considered what the tyre
>>>>> profile referred to and from the way you have been writing and
>>>>> how long it took you to pick up on my error (despite spending
>>>>> your life on these groups) it doesn't appear you knew any
>>>>> better.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lying is a repugnant trait, one that you embrace frequently but
>>>>> don't let it define you.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'll just leave this here:
>>>>
>>>> 'Ummmm... ...no.
>>>>
>>>> The "60" indicates that the section height of the tire is 60% of
>>>> the section width of the tire (the "185" or "195" in the size;
>>>> which is not tread width, BTW), and both of these figures are
>>>> nominal and not necessarily completely precise.
>>>>
>>>> So a 185/60R14 tire is (nominally!) 185mm wide at its widest point
>>>> (the tread is narrower and (nominally!) 2 * (185 * .6)/25.4 + 14 =
>>>> 22.74" tall.'
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
> <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata/c/Lc-YwDUjRuk/m/fX7iXIFo9q4J>
>>>
>>> Points to
>>>
>>> Alan Baker's profile photo
>>> Alan Baker
>>> unread,
>>> Sep 16, 2010, 7:31:26 PM
>>> to
>>> In article
>>> <c96d7594-2304-4c19...@k13g2000vbq.googlegroups.com>,
>>> "Tim M." <tomorrowe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Yup. But all other things being equal, the narrower section width
>>> will typically have the narrower tread.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> That was written in 2010.
>>>>
>>>> If you had any class, you'd apologize.
>>>
>>> Lol, WTF are you to talk of class with your constant
>>> misrepresentations and trolling.
>>>
>>> When you apologise for the misrepresentation above I'll think about
>>> it.
>>
>> What misrepresentation would that be?
>>
>
> See above.

On 2022-02-04 2:12 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2022-02-02 2:25 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-02-01 1:06 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2022-02-01 10:24 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>> News wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2/1/2022 9:03 AM, Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>>>> ~misfit~ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 1/02/2022 1:30 pm, Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-01-30 9:01 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-01-23 5:24 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's getting ridiculous when the cars are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put on slower low profile tyres simply to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go with a ridiculous fashion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AIUI the new tyres are not even "low
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> profile".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless I have figured it wrongly the rear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tyre is a 405/65 R18 (like many higher
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> profile road cars) and the front a higher
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AR at 305/86 R18 (very much higher profile
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than most road cars.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I stand to be corrected.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have figured it VERY wrongly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then correct me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So F1 tires are sized (in mm for width and overall
>>>>>>>>>>>> diameter) as 305/720R18 front and 405/720R18
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Converting from one to the other involves taking
>>>>>>>>>>>> the overall diameter (720) subtracting the wheel
>>>>>>>>>>>> diameter (which you convert to millimetres, so
>>>>>>>>>>>> 457.2) then you divide by 2
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I thought that was probably what I had missed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well caught.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If only you could manage to do it without looking a
>>>>>>>>>>> fucking ASSHOLE.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> A test you have yet to pass.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> :-D
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So I make them to be roughly:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 405/32R18 on the rear and 305/43R18 on the front.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I stand to be corrected (and wonder why, if they want
>>>>>>>>>> road-relevance they don't use nomenclature that
>>>>>>>>>> buyers of road car tyres understand).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think the reason I didn't pick up the error is that I
>>>>>>>>> was expecting relatively high numbers.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's not until I thought about what is being calculated
>>>>>>>>> that I realised that the width of the tyre on an F1 car
>>>>>>>>> means that for a similar profile the sidewall is
>>>>>>>>> proportionally larger.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is why these do not look like low profile road
>>>>>>>>> tyres but more like the tyres on van the I use for the
>>>>>>>>> dogs. 215/55 R16
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you scale down 720 R18 to the vans tyre diameter you
>>>>>>>>> get a 16" rim so pretty much dead on analogy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To have a 720mm wheel that looked like a low profile
>>>>>>>>> road car tyre (say a 225/45R18) you'd have to have a
>>>>>>>>> 19.6"rim or to look like a 225/40 R19 the rims would
>>>>>>>>> have to be another inch bigger than that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So while they look more like road tyres from the side
>>>>>>>>> they do not resemble "fashionable" low profile road
>>>>>>>>> tyres at all.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The rare admission: didn't understand the formula.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A common admission: "don't understand a word you utter."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is amusing that a guy who wants to argue so much of the
>>>>>> technical information about F1 doesn't understand something so
>>>>>> basic as how racing tire sizes are designated and how it
>>>>>> relates to the way that road tire sizes are called out.
>>>>>
>>>>> What a ridiculous sentence. You have a very loose hold on
>>>>> reality and/or are fabricating in order to be an annoying
>>>>> little cunt.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's pretty clear you have been on a steep learning curve the
>>>>> last few days.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unlike you I don't claim knowledge or expertise that is well
>>>>> beyond the scope of what is actually true.
>>>>>
>>>>> Until this thread was started I hadn't considered what the tyre
>>>>> profile referred to and from the way you have been writing and
>>>>> how long it took you to pick up on my error (despite spending
>>>>> your life on these groups) it doesn't appear you knew any
>>>>> better.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lying is a repugnant trait, one that you embrace frequently but
>>>>> don't let it define you.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.dropbox.com/s/xnd3f1yr7c1qlu3/IMG_4687.jpeg?dl=0>
>>>
>>> I have no interest of pictures of you in your underwear with young
>>> boys or whatever your untitled post might be.
>>>
>>> :-D
>>>
>>
>> So you looked, saw it was all books on vehicle dynamics, and punked.
>
> Another falsehood; you demonstrate your unintelligence and dishonesty
> so readily.

LOL

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"Tune to Win"
"Engineer to Win: Understanding Race Car Dynamics"

All by Carroll Smith. Heard of him? Probably not.

"Chassis Engineering" by Herb Adams

"Race Car Aerodynamics" by Joseph Katz

"How to Make Your Car Handle" by Fred Puhn

"Race & Rally Car Source Book" by Allan Staniforth

On 2022-02-04 2:15 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2022-02-02 2:25 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
>>> I have no interest of pictures of you in your underwear with young
>>> boys or whatever your untitled post might be.
>>>
>>> :-D
>>>
>>
>> So you looked,
>
> No, but I assume I guessed correctly then.

You made an ass of yourself again, then:

"Drive to Win"
"Prepare to Win"
"Tune to Win"
"Engineer to Win: Understanding Race Car Dynamics"

All by Carroll Smith. Heard of him? Probably not.

"Chassis Engineering" by Herb Adams

"Race Car Aerodynamics" by Joseph Katz

"How to Make Your Car Handle" by Fred Puhn

"Race & Rally Car Source Book" by Allan Staniforth

On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 6:09:25 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> Just a few of the books salient to the topic I own and have read and
> re-read over the years.

Wow thats pretty damn impressive.
Go get a hero cookie from the cupboard.

On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 6:10:12 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> You made an ass of yourself again, then:

pot kettle