On 22/10/2022 09:19, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 15:15:44 +0100, David Brooks <BDB@not.on.your.life>
> wrote:
>
>> On 21/10/2022 10:54, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 10:31:50 +0100, David Brooks <BDB@not.on.your.life>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 21/10/2022 09:59, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 09:36:09 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>> <BDB@not.on.your.life>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Your education is sorely lacking!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You really mean SHIPS!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One can put a boat on a ship ......... but one cannot put a ship on a
>>>>>> boat!
>>>>>
>>>>> But where do you draw the line?
>>>>
>>>> Plimsoll!
>>>>
>>>> https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/plimsoll-line.html
>>>
>>> I am aware of such a line, something to do with the weight of cargo on
>>> the boat?
>>>
>>> How do you cope with salt and fresh water and different buoyancies?
>>> Fucking annoying when scuba diving.
>>
>> Please do your own investigating!
>
> But you surely already know?

I once did, but now forgotten!

Wikipedia will tell you!

>>>>>> Were you not told about the expression "*show us a leg*"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll let you Google for that!
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't have to.  I remember now, it was to check sleeping people for
>>>>> hairy legs to see who should be fighting and who was a smuggled
>>>>> wife.  I
>>>>> was surprised they didn't kick up fuck when they found smuggled
>>>>> wives on
>>>>> there.
>>>>
>>>> There ya go!
>>>
>>> They didn't say they ALL had wives.
>>
>> Point taken!
>>
>>>>> You won't like this:
>>>>> https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-latest-activity/news/2019/january/21/190121-rn-rm-top-lgbt-employer
>>>>
>>>> You are correct.
>>>>
>>>> I don't like what has been happening to our society in general. :-(
>>>
>>> I signed up to something (I think it was Deezer) and I was asked if I
>>> was male, female, or non-binary.  WTF?  Even a gay is a male.  Pretty
>>> easy to look in your pants and see which one you are.
>>
>> Basic thinking.
>
> People are no longer able to do that.
>
> Hey did you ever test your IQ?

Oops! No, I forgot. Moving bedroom furniture to repair the floor below.

L8r m8 :-D

On Sat, 22 Oct 2022 13:33:57 +0100, David Brooks <BDB@not.on.your.life> wrote:

> On 22/10/2022 09:19, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 15:15:44 +0100, David Brooks <BDB@not.on.your.life>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 21/10/2022 10:54, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 10:31:50 +0100, David Brooks <BDB@not.on.your.life>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 21/10/2022 09:59, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 09:36:09 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>>> <BDB@not.on.your.life>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your education is sorely lacking!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You really mean SHIPS!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One can put a boat on a ship ......... but one cannot put a ship on a
>>>>>>> boat!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But where do you draw the line?
>>>>>
>>>>> Plimsoll!
>>>>>
>>>>> https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/plimsoll-line.html
>>>>
>>>> I am aware of such a line, something to do with the weight of cargo on
>>>> the boat?
>>>>
>>>> How do you cope with salt and fresh water and different buoyancies?
>>>> Fucking annoying when scuba diving.
>>>
>>> Please do your own investigating!
>>
>> But you surely already know?
>
> I once did, but now forgotten!
>
> Wikipedia will tell you!

I'm sure they just have three lines.

>>>>>>> Were you not told about the expression "*show us a leg*"?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll let you Google for that!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't have to. I remember now, it was to check sleeping people for
>>>>>> hairy legs to see who should be fighting and who was a smuggled
>>>>>> wife. I
>>>>>> was surprised they didn't kick up fuck when they found smuggled
>>>>>> wives on
>>>>>> there.
>>>>>
>>>>> There ya go!
>>>>
>>>> They didn't say they ALL had wives.
>>>
>>> Point taken!
>>>
>>>>>> You won't like this:
>>>>>> https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-latest-activity/news/2019/january/21/190121-rn-rm-top-lgbt-employer
>>>>>
>>>>> You are correct.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't like what has been happening to our society in general. :-(
>>>>
>>>> I signed up to something (I think it was Deezer) and I was asked if I
>>>> was male, female, or non-binary. WTF? Even a gay is a male. Pretty
>>>> easy to look in your pants and see which one you are.
>>>
>>> Basic thinking.
>>
>> People are no longer able to do that.
>>
>> Hey did you ever test your IQ?
>
> Oops! No, I forgot. Moving bedroom furniture to repair the floor below.
>
> L8r m8 :-D

You broke your floor?! Just how vigourous do you get at night?

On 22/10/2022 14:04, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Oct 2022 13:33:57 +0100, David Brooks <BDB@not.on.your.life>
> wrote:
>
>> On 22/10/2022 09:19, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 15:15:44 +0100, David Brooks <BDB@not.on.your.life>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 21/10/2022 10:54, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 10:31:50 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>> <BDB@not.on.your.life>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 21/10/2022 09:59, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 09:36:09 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>>>> <BDB@not.on.your.life>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your education is sorely lacking!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You really mean SHIPS!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One can put a boat on a ship ......... but one cannot put a ship
>>>>>>>> on a
>>>>>>>> boat!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But where do you draw the line?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Plimsoll!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/plimsoll-line.html
>>>>>
>>>>> I am aware of such a line, something to do with the weight of cargo on
>>>>> the boat?
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you cope with salt and fresh water and different buoyancies?
>>>>> Fucking annoying when scuba diving.
>>>>
>>>> Please do your own investigating!
>>>
>>> But you surely already know?
>>
>> I once did, but now forgotten!
>>
>> Wikipedia will tell you!
>
> I'm sure they just have three lines.

The original "Plimsoll mark" was a circle with a horizontal line through
it to show the maximum draft of a ship. Additional marks have been added
over the years, allowing for different water densities and expected sea
conditions.

Letters may also appear to the sides of the mark indicating the
classification society that has surveyed the vessel's load line. The
initials used include AB for the American Bureau of Shipping, BV for
Bureau Veritas, VL for DNV GL, IR for the Indian Register of Shipping,
LR for Lloyd's Register, NK for Nippon Kaiji Kyokai and RI for the
Registro Italiano Navale. These letters are approximately 115
millimetres in height and 75 millimetres in width (4.5 by 3.0 in).[9]
The load line length is referred to during and following load line
calculations.

The letters on the load line marks have the following meanings:

TF – tropical fresh water
F – fresh water
T – tropical seawater
S – summer temperate seawater
W – winter temperate seawater
WNA – winter North Atlantic

>>>>>>>> Were you not told about the expression "*show us a leg*"?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll let you Google for that!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I didn't have to.  I remember now, it was to check sleeping
>>>>>>> people for
>>>>>>> hairy legs to see who should be fighting and who was a smuggled
>>>>>>> wife.  I
>>>>>>> was surprised they didn't kick up fuck when they found smuggled
>>>>>>> wives on
>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There ya go!
>>>>>
>>>>> They didn't say they ALL had wives.
>>>>
>>>> Point taken!
>>>>
>>>>>>> You won't like this:
>>>>>>> https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-latest-activity/news/2019/january/21/190121-rn-rm-top-lgbt-employer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are correct.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't like what has been happening to our society in general. :-(
>>>>>
>>>>> I signed up to something (I think it was Deezer) and I was asked if I
>>>>> was male, female, or non-binary.  WTF?  Even a gay is a male.  Pretty
>>>>> easy to look in your pants and see which one you are.
>>>>
>>>> Basic thinking.
>>>
>>> People are no longer able to do that.
>>>
>>> Hey did you ever test your IQ?
>>
>> Oops! No, I forgot. Moving bedroom furniture to repair the floor below.
>>
>> L8r m8  :-D
>
> You broke your floor?!

When the floor was last repaired, before I bought the house, the
tongue-and-grouve join was cut and not supported by noggins. All now
corrected.

Where did you put your test you want me to complete?

On Sun, 23 Oct 2022 16:31:35 +0100, David Brooks <BDB@not.on.your.life> wrote:

> On 22/10/2022 14:04, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 Oct 2022 13:33:57 +0100, David Brooks <BDB@not.on.your.life>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 22/10/2022 09:19, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 15:15:44 +0100, David Brooks <BDB@not.on.your.life>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 21/10/2022 10:54, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 10:31:50 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>>> <BDB@not.on.your.life>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 21/10/2022 09:59, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 09:36:09 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>>>>> <BDB@not.on.your.life>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your education is sorely lacking!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You really mean SHIPS!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> One can put a boat on a ship ......... but one cannot put a ship
>>>>>>>>> on a
>>>>>>>>> boat!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But where do you draw the line?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Plimsoll!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/plimsoll-line.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am aware of such a line, something to do with the weight of cargo on
>>>>>> the boat?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do you cope with salt and fresh water and different buoyancies?
>>>>>> Fucking annoying when scuba diving.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please do your own investigating!
>>>>
>>>> But you surely already know?
>>>
>>> I once did, but now forgotten!
>>>
>>> Wikipedia will tell you!
>>
>> I'm sure they just have three lines.
>
> The original "Plimsoll mark" was a circle with a horizontal line through
> it to show the maximum draft of a ship. Additional marks have been added
> over the years, allowing for different water densities and expected sea
> conditions.
>
> Letters may also appear to the sides of the mark indicating the
> classification society that has surveyed the vessel's load line. The
> initials used include AB for the American Bureau of Shipping, BV for
> Bureau Veritas, VL for DNV GL, IR for the Indian Register of Shipping,
> LR for Lloyd's Register, NK for Nippon Kaiji Kyokai and RI for the
> Registro Italiano Navale. These letters are approximately 115
> millimetres in height and 75 millimetres in width (4.5 by 3.0 in).[9]
> The load line length is referred to during and following load line
> calculations.
>
> The letters on the load line marks have the following meanings:
>
> TF – tropical fresh water
> F – fresh water
> T – tropical seawater
> S – summer temperate seawater
> W – winter temperate seawater
> WNA – winter North Atlantic

Ah, that sounds familiar. I think that could get complicated. Simple enough going into salt water, but temperature.... the density of the water changes, but so does the ship! A ship in tropical water will also be warmer along with the surrounding water.

>>>>>>>>> Were you not told about the expression "*show us a leg*"?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll let you Google for that!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I didn't have to. I remember now, it was to check sleeping
>>>>>>>> people for
>>>>>>>> hairy legs to see who should be fighting and who was a smuggled
>>>>>>>> wife. I
>>>>>>>> was surprised they didn't kick up fuck when they found smuggled
>>>>>>>> wives on
>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There ya go!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They didn't say they ALL had wives.
>>>>>
>>>>> Point taken!
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You won't like this:
>>>>>>>> https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-latest-activity/news/2019/january/21/190121-rn-rm-top-lgbt-employer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are correct.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't like what has been happening to our society in general. :-(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I signed up to something (I think it was Deezer) and I was asked if I
>>>>>> was male, female, or non-binary. WTF? Even a gay is a male. Pretty
>>>>>> easy to look in your pants and see which one you are.
>>>>>
>>>>> Basic thinking.
>>>>
>>>> People are no longer able to do that.
>>>>
>>>> Hey did you ever test your IQ?
>>>
>>> Oops! No, I forgot. Moving bedroom furniture to repair the floor below.
>>>
>>> L8r m8 :-D
>>
>> You broke your floor?!
>
> When the floor was last repaired, before I bought the house, the
> tongue-and-grouve join was cut and not supported by noggins. All now
> corrected.

I dislike tongue and groove, it makes things creak. I always use seperate pieces of wood.

I though a noggin was your head/brain. I assume you mean supported by bugger all?

> Where did you put your test you want me to complete?

https://www.free-iqtest.net/

On Sunday, 23 October 2022 at 17:51:56 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Oct 2022 16:31:35 +0100, David Brooks <B...@not.on.your.life> wrote:
>
> > On 22/10/2022 14:04, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> On Sat, 22 Oct 2022 13:33:57 +0100, David Brooks <B...@not.on.your.life>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 22/10/2022 09:19, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >>>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 15:15:44 +0100, David Brooks <B...@not.on.your.life>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 21/10/2022 10:54, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >>>>>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 10:31:50 +0100, David Brooks
> >>>>>> <B...@not.on.your.life>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 21/10/2022 09:59, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 09:36:09 +0100, David Brooks
> >>>>>>>> <B...@not.on.your.life>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Your education is sorely lacking!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> You really mean SHIPS!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> One can put a boat on a ship ......... but one cannot put a ship
> >>>>>>>>> on a
> >>>>>>>>> boat!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> But where do you draw the line?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Plimsoll!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/plimsoll-line.html
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I am aware of such a line, something to do with the weight of cargo on
> >>>>>> the boat?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> How do you cope with salt and fresh water and different buoyancies?
> >>>>>> Fucking annoying when scuba diving.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please do your own investigating!
> >>>>
> >>>> But you surely already know?
> >>>
> >>> I once did, but now forgotten!
> >>>
> >>> Wikipedia will tell you!
> >>
> >> I'm sure they just have three lines.
> >
> > The original "Plimsoll mark" was a circle with a horizontal line through
> > it to show the maximum draft of a ship. Additional marks have been added
> > over the years, allowing for different water densities and expected sea
> > conditions.
> >
> > Letters may also appear to the sides of the mark indicating the
> > classification society that has surveyed the vessel's load line. The
> > initials used include AB for the American Bureau of Shipping, BV for
> > Bureau Veritas, VL for DNV GL, IR for the Indian Register of Shipping,
> > LR for Lloyd's Register, NK for Nippon Kaiji Kyokai and RI for the
> > Registro Italiano Navale. These letters are approximately 115
> > millimetres in height and 75 millimetres in width (4.5 by 3.0 in).[9]
> > The load line length is referred to during and following load line
> > calculations.
> >
> > The letters on the load line marks have the following meanings:
> >
> > TF – tropical fresh water
> > F – fresh water
> > T – tropical seawater
> > S – summer temperate seawater
> > W – winter temperate seawater
> > WNA – winter North Atlantic
> Ah, that sounds familiar. I think that could get complicated. Simple enough going into salt water, but temperature.... the density of the water changes, but so does the ship! A ship in tropical water will also be warmer along with the surrounding water.

Not sure how much the ship getting warmer would affect bouyancey , but the plimsoll line is for use at port rather than while travelling.
And unless it's a sailing shiop then the fuel used would lighten the weight of the ship during the voyage, this would also apply to sailing ships as the crew went through the food stocks.

On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 11:05:40 AM UTC-4, Whisky-dave wrote:
> On Sunday, 23 October 2022 at 17:51:56 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> > On Sun, 23 Oct 2022 16:31:35 +0100, David Brooks <B...@not.on.your.life> wrote:
> >
> > > On 22/10/2022 14:04, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> > >> On Sat, 22 Oct 2022 13:33:57 +0100, David Brooks <B...@not.on.your.life>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On 22/10/2022 09:19, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> > >>>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 15:15:44 +0100, David Brooks <B...@not.on.your..life>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On 21/10/2022 10:54, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> > >>>>>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 10:31:50 +0100, David Brooks
> > >>>>>> <B...@not.on.your.life>
> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On 21/10/2022 09:59, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 09:36:09 +0100, David Brooks
> > >>>>>>>> <B...@not.on.your.life>
> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Your education is sorely lacking!
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> You really mean SHIPS!
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> One can put a boat on a ship ......... but one cannot put a ship
> > >>>>>>>>> on a
> > >>>>>>>>> boat!
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> But where do you draw the line?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Plimsoll!
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/plimsoll-line.html
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I am aware of such a line, something to do with the weight of cargo on
> > >>>>>> the boat?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> How do you cope with salt and fresh water and different buoyancies?
> > >>>>>> Fucking annoying when scuba diving.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Please do your own investigating!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> But you surely already know?
> > >>>
> > >>> I once did, but now forgotten!
> > >>>
> > >>> Wikipedia will tell you!
> > >>
> > >> I'm sure they just have three lines.
> > >
> > > The original "Plimsoll mark" was a circle with a horizontal line through
> > > it to show the maximum draft of a ship. Additional marks have been added
> > > over the years, allowing for different water densities and expected sea
> > > conditions.
> > >
> > > Letters may also appear to the sides of the mark indicating the
> > > classification society that has surveyed the vessel's load line. The
> > > initials used include AB for the American Bureau of Shipping, BV for
> > > Bureau Veritas, VL for DNV GL, IR for the Indian Register of Shipping,
> > > LR for Lloyd's Register, NK for Nippon Kaiji Kyokai and RI for the
> > > Registro Italiano Navale. These letters are approximately 115
> > > millimetres in height and 75 millimetres in width (4.5 by 3.0 in).[9]
> > > The load line length is referred to during and following load line
> > > calculations.
> > >
> > > The letters on the load line marks have the following meanings:
> > >
> > > TF – tropical fresh water
> > > F – fresh water
> > > T – tropical seawater
> > > S – summer temperate seawater
> > > W – winter temperate seawater
> > > WNA – winter North Atlantic
> >
> > Ah, that sounds familiar. I think that could get complicated. Simple enough going
> > into salt water, but temperature.... the density of the water changes, but so does
> > the ship! A ship in tropical water will also be warmer along with the surrounding water.
>
> Not sure how much the ship getting warmer would affect bouyancey , but the plimsoll line
> is for use at port rather than while travelling.
> And unless it's a sailing shiop then the fuel used would lighten the weight of the ship during
> the voyage, this would also apply to sailing ships as the crew went through the food stocks.

Hadn't thought about the subject much at all, but it makes sense. I suspect that another thing
to keep in mind is that these are basically safety ratings, so there can be factors other than
merely the strict physics of water density which determine them.

For example, I see that WNA is listed ... this region became even more notorious during WW2 for
having rough seas, which could call for a ship to run with greater freeboard, and it also was known
for heavy winter ice on superstructures (risk) which adds weight (and instability), which requires
less cargo while being loaded in port in order to maintain safety margins, etc.

-hh

On 13/10/2022 21:12, Snit wrote:
> On Oct 13, 2022 at 12:35:35 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <bMZ1L.816896$9f26.639682@fx09.ams1>:
>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If so, please explain how that is achievable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where did you get the videos initially?
>>>>
>>>> I simply clicked on the links posted by Savageduck in the
>>>> 'rec.photo.digital' Usenet group.
>>>
>>> Clicking links would not save the files to your iCloud drive. Did the links
>>> pop up a save dialog?
>>
>> No, no pop-up at all. I simply clicked on the links and watched the
>> videos. They are all quite amazing and interesting to watch. I
>> especially enjoyed the zooming in to see the seals!
>
> I am confused. What does watching a video have to do with your iCloud drive?
>
> Do you have the links?

I must have missed this question!

The links to the videos may all be found in the 'rec.photo.digital'
Usenet newsgroup, under the Username of Savageduck.

HTH

--
David

On 17/10/2022 15:17, David Brooks wrote:
> On 17/10/2022 15:06, nospam wrote:
>> In article <n0d3L.1504358$YC96.523585@fx12.ams1>, David Brooks
>> <BDB@not.on.your.life> wrote:
>>
>>> On a slightly different tack, does Apple scan material on its iCloud for
>>> malicious material? Viruses, Trojans and other malware?
>>>
>>> If so, is one's iCloud Drive EXEMPT from such scans?
>>
>> you unhealthy obsession with malware continues.
>
> It's been an *interest* since I was scammed for £245.00 back in 2005.
> Our High-Tec Crime Unit (as was) recommended that I should learn as much
> as possible about such things.
>
> I was looking at a DVD from 2007 yesterday and found this item:-
> https://jumpshare.com/v/YwJyiDM5EWHnYBOkB6vJ
>
> Have you ever used BugHunter?
>
>>> Perhaps you don't know. This is, I realise, digging quite deep.
>>
>> i do and it isn't.
>
> You know that Apple CAN scan the iCloud for malware?
> Is that right?
>
> And that iCloud Drive *IS* INCLUDED in such scans? Is that correct.
>
>>> Any help will be appreciated. TIA
>>
>> you're beyond help.
>
> No. I'm just old! :-D

*BUMP*!

On 17/10/2022 12:02, FromTheRafters wrote:
> After serious thinking Joerg Lorenz wrote :
>> Am 17.10.22 um 06:35 schrieb Snit:
>>> Evidence?
>>
>> Fanboy?
>>
>> https://techcrunch.com/2021/08/05/apple-icloud-photos-scanning/
>
> I'm not worried, are you?

I wonder WHY he didn't answer!

On 20/10/2022 08:26, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 17:10:36 +0100, ...winston <winstonmvp@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> pothead"  wrote in message news:ti9vtr$1sfkq$1@dont-email.me...
>>> Sounds to me that you had whatever directory the files were
>>> downloaded to
>>> configured to back up to iCloud.
>>> I'm not a Mac user but I had a similar problem with MS Onedrive.
>>> It has defaults that get set up when you install/activate it and I
>>> noticed similar behavior.
>>
>> Yes, One Drive on first use(never having signed in, oobe use) will
>> configure
>> Backup for:
>> - Desktop, Documents, Pictures located your specific Windows user logon
>> C:\\Users\<windows logon>
>> ...but, to do so, user intervention is necessary and with acceptance to
>> occur
>> - i.e. a screen prompt showing the Backup windows with each of those
>> folder options needs to be 'Ok'd'
>>
>> The other direction available is not 'up' to the MSA's OneDrive(cloud)
>> - It's from OneDrive online down to the local stored OneDrive folder
>> Again...user intervention is necessary to configure what syncs down
>>
>> OneDrive does not have settings for applications/apps that integrate
>> with OneDrive. Those applications have their own OneDrive
>> 'save-to-cloud' settings.
>
> I wonder if they scan such drives for illegal material?

There's no way of knowing what "they" do! ;-)

Am 12.09.23 um 12:29 schrieb David Brooks:
> On 17/10/2022 12:02, FromTheRafters wrote:
>> After serious thinking Joerg Lorenz wrote :
>>> Am 17.10.22 um 06:35 schrieb Snit:
>>>> Evidence?
>>>
>>> Fanboy?
>>>
>>> https://techcrunch.com/2021/08/05/apple-icloud-photos-scanning/
>>
>> I'm not worried, are you?
>
> I wonder WHY he didn't answer!

That thing evaporated to the cyberspace.

--
Manus manum lavat

On 12/09/2023 11:49, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 12.09.23 um 12:29 schrieb David Brooks:
>> On 17/10/2022 12:02, FromTheRafters wrote:
>>> After serious thinking Joerg Lorenz wrote :
>>>> Am 17.10.22 um 06:35 schrieb Snit:
>>>>> Evidence?
>>>>
>>>> Fanboy?
>>>>
>>>> https://techcrunch.com/2021/08/05/apple-icloud-photos-scanning/
>>>
>>> I'm not worried, are you?
>>
>> I wonder WHY he didn't answer!
>
> That thing evaporated to the cyberspace.

As Snit might say, where is your EVIDENCE?!!

David Brooks formulated on Tuesday :
> On 17/10/2022 12:02, FromTheRafters wrote:
>> After serious thinking Joerg Lorenz wrote :
>>> Am 17.10.22 um 06:35 schrieb Snit:
>>>> Evidence?
>>>
>>> Fanboy?
>>>
>>> https://techcrunch.com/2021/08/05/apple-icloud-photos-scanning/
>>
>> I'm not worried, are you?
>
> I wonder WHY he didn't answer!

He's too busy encrypting?

Am 12.09.23 um 16:51 schrieb FromTheRafters:
> David Brooks formulated on Tuesday :
>> On 17/10/2022 12:02, FromTheRafters wrote:
>>> After serious thinking Joerg Lorenz wrote :
>>>> Am 17.10.22 um 06:35 schrieb Snit:
>>>>> Evidence?
>>>>
>>>> Fanboy?
>>>>
>>>> https://techcrunch.com/2021/08/05/apple-icloud-photos-scanning/
>>>
>>> I'm not worried, are you?
>>
>> I wonder WHY he didn't answer!
>
> He's too busy encrypting?

You do not understand E2E-encryption which was introduced in the
meantime. You seem to understand exactly nothing.

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Am 12.09.23 um 13:59 schrieb David Brooks:
> On 12/09/2023 11:49, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> Am 12.09.23 um 12:29 schrieb David Brooks:
>>> On 17/10/2022 12:02, FromTheRafters wrote:
>>>> After serious thinking Joerg Lorenz wrote :
>>>>> Am 17.10.22 um 06:35 schrieb Snit:
>>>>>> Evidence?
>>>>>
>>>>> Fanboy?
>>>>>
>>>>> https://techcrunch.com/2021/08/05/apple-icloud-photos-scanning/
>>>>
>>>> I'm not worried, are you?
>>>
>>> I wonder WHY he didn't answer!
>>
>> That thing evaporated to the cyberspace.
>
> As Snit might say, where is your EVIDENCE?!!

You do not understand E2E-encryption which was introduced in the
meantime. You seem to understand exactly nothing.

EOD

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Jörg Lorenz presented the following explanation :
> Am 12.09.23 um 16:51 schrieb FromTheRafters:
>> David Brooks formulated on Tuesday :
>>> On 17/10/2022 12:02, FromTheRafters wrote:
>>>> After serious thinking Joerg Lorenz wrote :
>>>>> Am 17.10.22 um 06:35 schrieb Snit:
>>>>>> Evidence?
>>>>>
>>>>> Fanboy?
>>>>>
>>>>> https://techcrunch.com/2021/08/05/apple-icloud-photos-scanning/
>>>>
>>>> I'm not worried, are you?
>>>
>>> I wonder WHY he didn't answer!
>>
>> He's too busy encrypting?
>
> You do not understand E2E-encryption which was introduced in the
> meantime. You seem to understand exactly nothing.

I probably know more about end-to-end encryption than you think I do.
There was nothing in my previous comment to indicate anything at all
about my skill level.

If you're worried, just encrypt your kiddie porn and don't worry about
scanners anymore.

Am 12.09.23 um 18:09 schrieb FromTheRafters:
> Jörg Lorenz presented the following explanation :
>> Am 12.09.23 um 16:51 schrieb FromTheRafters:
>>> David Brooks formulated on Tuesday :
>>>> On 17/10/2022 12:02, FromTheRafters wrote:
>>>>> After serious thinking Joerg Lorenz wrote :
>>>>>> Am 17.10.22 um 06:35 schrieb Snit:
>>>>>>> Evidence?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fanboy?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://techcrunch.com/2021/08/05/apple-icloud-photos-scanning/
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not worried, are you?
>>>>
>>>> I wonder WHY he didn't answer!
>>>
>>> He's too busy encrypting?
>>
>> You do not understand E2E-encryption which was introduced in the
>> meantime. You seem to understand exactly nothing.
>
> I probably know more about end-to-end encryption than you think I do.
> There was nothing in my previous comment to indicate anything at all
> about my skill level.
>
> If you're worried, just encrypt your kiddie porn and don't worry about
> scanners anymore.

As I said: You do not understand what happened at all.

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