On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 6:42:49 PM UTC, lou.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 7:26:26 PM UTC+1, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 09:13:19 -0800 (PST), Andre Jute
> > <fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > >On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 3:10:08 AM UTC, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Meanwhile, please don't build your Tower of Babel and future history
> > >> on top of my speculation. It makes for a very poor and unstable
> > >> foundation.
> >
> > >Now you tell me? -- AJ
> > I could have recommended that you avoid building a logical empire on
> > top of ANY speculation that isn't backed by facts. I vaguely recall
> > some speculative predictions that actually came true, but that was
> > rare. However, that might be asking too much.
> >
> > I note that there seems to be some debate in RBT as to what
> > constitutes a fact. Judging the source seems to the current fashion.
> > Predictions based on the sources agenda, affiliation, associates,
> > supporters, partners and accomplices follow closely. One RBT notable
> > seems to favor anything that condenses from of the steam emitted from
> > his head. I prefer to follow the links (and the money) back to its
> > original source if possible. This avoids translation, spelling, and
> > editing errors, but does require more research time than most people
> > have available. Facts have become a useless luxury and speculation
> > without any basis or corroboration seems to be the currently
> > acceptable norm. Since my speculation and guesswork is at least
> > partially based on original sources, I suggested that you avoid basing
> > your speculation and guesswork on my research since it rarely will
> > align itself with the commonly discussed agendas, political parties,
> > factions, etc.
> >
> > It's not about what someone says, but rather who paid them to say it.
> > --
> Isn’t the Internet wonderful, where everyone can find confirmation of ones truth.
>
> Lou
>
I was a liberal once, and suppose I still am. Not in the American sense of a mindless left-winger, of course, more in the classical sense. Standing up for the free speech of everyone regardless of creed or color cost me a homeland and some uncomfortable moments when politicians who didn't know how to behave sent assassins after me for my books. So I welcomed the internet as the flowering of free speech for Everyman, outwith the editorial control of people like me; it didn't seem to me fair that I could step off the plane in Australia and from the airport make a single phone call and get a job as managing editor of an influential group of journals and the same everywhere else, while the local people didn't have a voice, or a television show ditto. But unfortunately, the moment Everyman gained a voice, he used it to shout at the top of his lungs in an attempt to shut up his neighbor; RBT's tenth-raters trying to shut up everyone who doesn't agree with the pap that forms their opinions is a good example. I'm reminded by your post that as, a student, I'd volunteered to fight for the freedom of black people in Africa; the minute they had their own country, they used their freedom to subjugate their neighbors or their own people.
>
Andre Jute
The law of unintended consequences is nobody's friend.
>

On 2/15/2022 10:46 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 09:13:07 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Looks like you hit dead center since this morning they started talking about a surge in covid-19 cases which will delay the ending of this ridiculous mandate.
>
> What surge and who are "they"?

The U.S. is experiencing a sharp decline. But some countries, like
Korea, are having Omicron surges now.

Every time precautions, like mask mandates, are relaxed there's an
uptick in cases. You'd think these politicians would be smart enough to
follow the advice of the CDC and not lift things like mask mandates
prematurely but they are under pressure by low-information governors
like DeSantis who is using Covid for political purposes.

"As more people get infected with a coronavirus variant, there are fewer
people left to infect. When the basic reproductive number falls below
one, new infections reach their peak and then decline. To plateau, the
rate of new infections has to stabilize somewhere near one, but that
would require an unusual set of conditions, according to Lessler."

This is especially relevant to Omicron because it spread so rapidly.

While vaccinations reduce infections, and reduce the severity of Covid
if you are infected, it's masks that reduce the spread. If someone wants
to ignore all the science and not get vaccinated then they should be
extra cautious in terms of isolating themselves and they should be
wearing an N95 or KN95 mask.

On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 7:02:16 PM UTC, Sepp Ruf wrote:
> Andre Jute wrote:
> > On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 3:10:08 AM UTC, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> Meanwhile, please don't build your Tower of Babel and future history
> >> on top of my speculation. It makes for a very poor and unstable
> >> foundation.
> Talk about toxic pfizershots being an unstable foundation:
> <https://t.me/NeverImpfpflicht/640>
>
I clicked on "context" and learned:
"Aktuelle News , der tägliche Wahnsinn. Habe die furchtlose Haltung eines Helden und das liebevolle Herz eines Kindes."
which means, for monoglots:
"Current news, the daily madness. Have the fearless outlook of a hero and the loving heart of a child."
Though I could translate it as Mein Herze schwimmt im Blut, my heart swims in blood, the name of Bach's Cantata 199, currently playing on my hifi, and these non-kulturny monkeys wouldn't know the difference.
>
> I shall deduct that just mentioning "Scharf" twice on television
> increases the rate of a live moderator collapsing by up to 85%, or more.
> Wear your studio helmets, Pfizerites! <;-P
>
I've stopped viewing Scharfie as a simpering buffoon. He means that crap about locking people who won't conform to the Left's destructive, immoral vision into concentration camps. He's more dangerous than the RBT resident clowns, who together don't amount even to a horselaugh.
>
> > Now you tell me? -- AJ
>
> Not just you. All of Jeff's readers are left to wonder if his research
> is sloppy, has some blind spot, or is deliberately deceitful because his
> declared, but incomprehensibly time-wasting mission is to destroy Tom's
> reputation.
>
Jeff's been a mensch in the past, and he will be again. He's just running with the permanent wrongos from RBT''s ghetto at the moment.
>
Time for drinks before dinner. I'll reply to the rest of your letter later.
>
Andre Jute.

On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 10:42:49 AM UTC-8, Lou Holtman wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 7:26:26 PM UTC+1, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 09:13:19 -0800 (PST), Andre Jute
> > <fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > >On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 3:10:08 AM UTC, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Meanwhile, please don't build your Tower of Babel and future history
> > >> on top of my speculation. It makes for a very poor and unstable
> > >> foundation.
> >
> > >Now you tell me? -- AJ
> > I could have recommended that you avoid building a logical empire on
> > top of ANY speculation that isn't backed by facts. I vaguely recall
> > some speculative predictions that actually came true, but that was
> > rare. However, that might be asking too much.
> >
> > I note that there seems to be some debate in RBT as to what
> > constitutes a fact. Judging the source seems to the current fashion.
> > Predictions based on the sources agenda, affiliation, associates,
> > supporters, partners and accomplices follow closely. One RBT notable
> > seems to favor anything that condenses from of the steam emitted from
> > his head. I prefer to follow the links (and the money) back to its
> > original source if possible. This avoids translation, spelling, and
> > editing errors, but does require more research time than most people
> > have available. Facts have become a useless luxury and speculation
> > without any basis or corroboration seems to be the currently
> > acceptable norm. Since my speculation and guesswork is at least
> > partially based on original sources, I suggested that you avoid basing
> > your speculation and guesswork on my research since it rarely will
> > align itself with the commonly discussed agendas, political parties,
> > factions, etc.
> >
> > It's not about what someone says, but rather who paid them to say it.
> > --
> Isn’t the Internet wonderful, where everyone can find confirmation of ones truth.

Indeed, what started out to be a source of fact is now almost entirely imaginary or lies where the imagination fails.

On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 10:46:51 AM UTC-8, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 09:13:07 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Looks like you hit dead center since this morning they started talking about a surge in covid-19 cases which will delay the ending of this ridiculous mandate.
> What surge and who are "they"?
>
> Here's the cases/100K graph for Alameda County broken down by
> vaccination status:
> <https://app.powerbigov.us/view?r=eyJrIjoiOTAxMzFkOWEtNTgzOC00YWRkLTg3Y2YtMThiODQwMWJhNWUyIiwidCI6IjMyZmRmZjJjLWY4NmUtNGJhMy1hNDdkLTZhNDRhN2Y0NWE2NCJ9>
> Kinda looks like it's decreasing. Also looks like the peak case rate
> among the unvaccinated was 3.8 times higher than those who have been
> vaccinated.
>
> More numbers for Alameda County:
> <https://covid-19.acgov.org/data.page>
>
> The national CDC numbers show the same pattern:
> <https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_dailycases>
> Try different orange line graphs under "View (right axis)".

As I was just speaking of. There is NO WAY to prove infection with covid-19.. The CDC is presently being sued to PROVE the actual existence of the disease. I have shown a hundred times that they could NOT use PCR to diagnose a disease. Dr. Kary Mullis has said that same thing and he invented the chemistry and won the Nobel prize for it.

Oh, but Jeffy knows all there is to know about this illness doesn't he? He can imagine that something that has supposedly been in existence for 2 years and hasn't even had one single virus shown to cause an illness as claimed..

Why do you insist on being an expert on things you don't have one single iota of knowledge about? Is this your mental illness acting up again? Like the one where you identify as a bicyclist though you don't ride a bicycle and I can't remember when you ever did?

On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 11:16:49 AM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 6:42:49 PM UTC, lou.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 7:26:26 PM UTC+1, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 09:13:19 -0800 (PST), Andre Jute
> > > <fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 3:10:08 AM UTC, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Meanwhile, please don't build your Tower of Babel and future history
> > > >> on top of my speculation. It makes for a very poor and unstable
> > > >> foundation.
> > >
> > > >Now you tell me? -- AJ
> > > I could have recommended that you avoid building a logical empire on
> > > top of ANY speculation that isn't backed by facts. I vaguely recall
> > > some speculative predictions that actually came true, but that was
> > > rare. However, that might be asking too much.
> > >
> > > I note that there seems to be some debate in RBT as to what
> > > constitutes a fact. Judging the source seems to the current fashion.
> > > Predictions based on the sources agenda, affiliation, associates,
> > > supporters, partners and accomplices follow closely. One RBT notable
> > > seems to favor anything that condenses from of the steam emitted from
> > > his head. I prefer to follow the links (and the money) back to its
> > > original source if possible. This avoids translation, spelling, and
> > > editing errors, but does require more research time than most people
> > > have available. Facts have become a useless luxury and speculation
> > > without any basis or corroboration seems to be the currently
> > > acceptable norm. Since my speculation and guesswork is at least
> > > partially based on original sources, I suggested that you avoid basing
> > > your speculation and guesswork on my research since it rarely will
> > > align itself with the commonly discussed agendas, political parties,
> > > factions, etc.
> > >
> > > It's not about what someone says, but rather who paid them to say it.
> > > --
> > Isn’t the Internet wonderful, where everyone can find confirmation of ones truth.
> >
> > Lou
> >
> I was a liberal once, and suppose I still am. Not in the American sense of a mindless left-winger, of course, more in the classical sense. Standing up for the free speech of everyone regardless of creed or color cost me a homeland and some uncomfortable moments when politicians who didn't know how to behave sent assassins after me for my books. So I welcomed the internet as the flowering of free speech for Everyman, outwith the editorial control of people like me; it didn't seem to me fair that I could step off the plane in Australia and from the airport make a single phone call and get a job as managing editor of an influential group of journals and the same everywhere else, while the local people didn't have a voice, or a television show ditto. But unfortunately, the moment Everyman gained a voice, he used it to shout at the top of his lungs in an attempt to shut up his neighbor; RBT's tenth-raters trying to shut up everyone who doesn't agree with the pap that forms their opinions is a good example. I'm reminded by your post that as, a student, I'd volunteered to fight for the freedom of black people in Africa; the minute they had their own country, they used their freedom to subjugate their neighbors or their own people.
> >
> Andre Jute
> The law of unintended consequences is nobody's friend.

This is one of those odd things about the Democrats that I have never quite understood. A conservative is probably the most liberal person around. Though they dislike change, they also dislike anyone getting an inequity. Isn't that what Liberalism is really about in the end?

Democrats are shown by everything they do that they are the most illiberal creatures on this planet. Extremist is more descriptive. The trouble is that the Democrats have also highjacked nomenclature and the Republicans for years and years have allowed them to get away with it.

On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 11:21:46 AM UTC-8, sms wrote:
> On 2/15/2022 10:46 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> > On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 09:13:07 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Looks like you hit dead center since this morning they started talking about a surge in covid-19 cases which will delay the ending of this ridiculous mandate.
> >
> > What surge and who are "they"?
> The U.S. is experiencing a sharp decline. But some countries, like
> Korea, are having Omicron surges now.
>
> Every time precautions, like mask mandates, are relaxed there's an
> uptick in cases. You'd think these politicians would be smart enough to
> follow the advice of the CDC and not lift things like mask mandates
> prematurely but they are under pressure by low-information governors
> like DeSantis who is using Covid for political purposes.
>
> "As more people get infected with a coronavirus variant, there are fewer
> people left to infect. When the basic reproductive number falls below
> one, new infections reach their peak and then decline. To plateau, the
> rate of new infections has to stabilize somewhere near one, but that
> would require an unusual set of conditions, according to Lessler."
>
> This is especially relevant to Omicron because it spread so rapidly.
>
> While vaccinations reduce infections, and reduce the severity of Covid
> if you are infected, it's masks that reduce the spread. If someone wants
> to ignore all the science and not get vaccinated then they should be
> extra cautious in terms of isolating themselves and they should be
> wearing an N95 or KN95 mask.

Explain to everyone here how you diagnose covis-19? I'm getting pretty tired of people that know nothing whatsoever about science quoting some Slime Stream Media ass who knows less than his dog.

On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 7:02:16 PM UTC, Sepp Ruf wrote:
>
> See, it took me one click on the first page of search results to find
> <https://www.spokeo.com/Richard-Hirschman/Alabama?loaded=1>
> a data set nicely matching that embalmer in Alabama, which Jeff
> supposedly could not. If we can convince Frank to drive to Alabama to
> fact-check on Hirschie, he should also try to invite Tiffany Pontes
> Dover for a tandem ride. You know, that disappeared Kentucky nurse who
> is now said to file her taxes from Higdon, 1,500 souls, Jackson County, Ala.
>
Franki-boy is three monkeys who see no truth, hear no truth, profess no truth. He routinely lies with statistics, and then acts offended when those with a better of statistics, or more honesty in our souls, straighten him out.. Letting someone as dishonest as Krygowski, Scarfie, and the rest of the RBT thugs loose on excess fatality numbers is pisspoor practice, not because the statistics are difficult, but because the numbers are subtle beyond the imagination of such poorly educated and rigid people, and because to them a set of numbers is not judged on its illumination of facts but solely as buttress for the bee in their bonnets.
>
> <https://t.me/NeverImpfpflicht/635> A soviet party member type as the
> hero is stupid in Western Europe, but might work with American antifa
> Democrats.
>
I've always wondered why some bright cartoonist didn't make a theme of Angela Merkel as the young Komsomol spokeswoman, the Prussian junior commissar, and assumed it was because she'd have her minions lock up the cartoonist.
>
Andre Jute
Science walks the streets at night, under the lamps of the Place de Laplace..

On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 9:01:13 PM UTC, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 11:16:49 AM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> > On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 6:42:49 PM UTC, lou.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 7:26:26 PM UTC+1, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 09:13:19 -0800 (PST), Andre Jute
> > > > <fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 3:10:08 AM UTC, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Meanwhile, please don't build your Tower of Babel and future history
> > > > >> on top of my speculation. It makes for a very poor and unstable
> > > > >> foundation.
> > > >
> > > > >Now you tell me? -- AJ
> > > > I could have recommended that you avoid building a logical empire on
> > > > top of ANY speculation that isn't backed by facts. I vaguely recall
> > > > some speculative predictions that actually came true, but that was
> > > > rare. However, that might be asking too much.
> > > >
> > > > I note that there seems to be some debate in RBT as to what
> > > > constitutes a fact. Judging the source seems to the current fashion..
> > > > Predictions based on the sources agenda, affiliation, associates,
> > > > supporters, partners and accomplices follow closely. One RBT notable
> > > > seems to favor anything that condenses from of the steam emitted from
> > > > his head. I prefer to follow the links (and the money) back to its
> > > > original source if possible. This avoids translation, spelling, and
> > > > editing errors, but does require more research time than most people
> > > > have available. Facts have become a useless luxury and speculation
> > > > without any basis or corroboration seems to be the currently
> > > > acceptable norm. Since my speculation and guesswork is at least
> > > > partially based on original sources, I suggested that you avoid basing
> > > > your speculation and guesswork on my research since it rarely will
> > > > align itself with the commonly discussed agendas, political parties,
> > > > factions, etc.
> > > >
> > > > It's not about what someone says, but rather who paid them to say it.
> > > > --
> > > Isn’t the Internet wonderful, where everyone can find confirmation of ones truth.
> > >
> > > Lou
> > >
> > I was a liberal once, and suppose I still am. Not in the American sense of a mindless left-winger, of course, more in the classical sense. Standing up for the free speech of everyone regardless of creed or color cost me a homeland and some uncomfortable moments when politicians who didn't know how to behave sent assassins after me for my books. So I welcomed the internet as the flowering of free speech for Everyman, outwith the editorial control of people like me; it didn't seem to me fair that I could step off the plane in Australia and from the airport make a single phone call and get a job as managing editor of an influential group of journals and the same everywhere else, while the local people didn't have a voice, or a television show ditto. But unfortunately, the moment Everyman gained a voice, he used it to shout at the top of his lungs in an attempt to shut up his neighbor; RBT's tenth-raters trying to shut up everyone who doesn't agree with the pap that forms their opinions is a good example. I'm reminded by your post that as, a student, I'd volunteered to fight for the freedom of black people in Africa; the minute they had their own country, they used their freedom to subjugate their neighbors or their own people.
> > >
> > Andre Jute
> > The law of unintended consequences is nobody's friend.
> This is one of those odd things about the Democrats that I have never quite understood. A conservative is probably the most liberal person around. Though they dislike change, they also dislike anyone getting an inequity. Isn't that what Liberalism is really about in the end?
>
> Democrats are shown by everything they do that they are the most illiberal creatures on this planet. Extremist is more descriptive. The trouble is that the Democrats have also highjacked nomenclature and the Republicans for years and years have allowed them to get away with it.
>
Absolutely. It's Alinskyism at work, first stealing the language, turning it all into an arm of the dialectic of social destruction, the sense in the common man of not belonging in his own country. It's one of the most hateful dishonesties of the Donkey Party and the Left in general. --- AJ
>

On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 3:22:44 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 7:02:16 PM UTC, Sepp Ruf wrote:
> >
> > See, it took me one click on the first page of search results to find
> > <https://www.spokeo.com/Richard-Hirschman/Alabama?loaded=1>
> > a data set nicely matching that embalmer in Alabama, which Jeff
> > supposedly could not. If we can convince Frank to drive to Alabama to
> > fact-check on Hirschie, he should also try to invite Tiffany Pontes
> > Dover for a tandem ride. You know, that disappeared Kentucky nurse who
> > is now said to file her taxes from Higdon, 1,500 souls, Jackson County, Ala.
> >
> Franki-boy is three monkeys who see no truth, hear no truth, profess no truth. He routinely lies with statistics, and then acts offended when those with a better of statistics, or more honesty in our souls, straighten him out. Letting someone as dishonest as Krygowski, Scarfie, and the rest of the RBT thugs loose on excess fatality numbers is pisspoor practice, not because the statistics are difficult, but because the numbers are subtle beyond the imagination of such poorly educated and rigid people, and because to them a set of numbers is not judged on its illumination of facts but solely as buttress for the bee in their bonnets.
> >
> > <https://t.me/NeverImpfpflicht/635> A soviet party member type as the
> > hero is stupid in Western Europe, but might work with American antifa
> > Democrats.
> >
> I've always wondered why some bright cartoonist didn't make a theme of Angela Merkel as the young Komsomol spokeswoman, the Prussian junior commissar, and assumed it was because she'd have her minions lock up the cartoonist..
> >
> Andre Jute
> Science walks the streets at night, under the lamps of the Place de Laplace.
Do you suppose that the loud mouths here find it embarrassing to see what the rest of the world thinks of them? Nahh, people like Russell and Flunky pretend that it never happened.

On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 4:46:34 PM UTC, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 3:22:44 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> > On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 7:02:16 PM UTC, Sepp Ruf wrote:
> > >
> > > See, it took me one click on the first page of search results to find
> > > <https://www.spokeo.com/Richard-Hirschman/Alabama?loaded=1>
> > > a data set nicely matching that embalmer in Alabama, which Jeff
> > > supposedly could not. If we can convince Frank to drive to Alabama to
> > > fact-check on Hirschie, he should also try to invite Tiffany Pontes
> > > Dover for a tandem ride. You know, that disappeared Kentucky nurse who
> > > is now said to file her taxes from Higdon, 1,500 souls, Jackson County, Ala.
> > >
> > Franki-boy is three monkeys who see no truth, hear no truth, profess no truth. He routinely lies with statistics, and then acts offended when those with a better of statistics, or more honesty in our souls, straighten him out. Letting someone as dishonest as Krygowski, Scarfie, and the rest of the RBT thugs loose on excess fatality numbers is pisspoor practice, not because the statistics are difficult, but because the numbers are subtle beyond the imagination of such poorly educated and rigid people, and because to them a set of numbers is not judged on its illumination of facts but solely as buttress for the bee in their bonnets.
> > >
> > > <https://t.me/NeverImpfpflicht/635> A soviet party member type as the
> > > hero is stupid in Western Europe, but might work with American antifa
> > > Democrats.
> > >
> > I've always wondered why some bright cartoonist didn't make a theme of Angela Merkel as the young Komsomol spokeswoman, the Prussian junior commissar, and assumed it was because she'd have her minions lock up the cartoonist.
> > >
> > Andre Jute
> > Science walks the streets at night, under the lamps of the Place de Laplace.
> Do you suppose that the loud mouths here find it embarrassing to see what the rest of the world thinks of them? Nahh, people like Russell and Flunky pretend that it never happened.
>
Nah, the key to the Ugly American at Home or Abroad has always been his blithe unconsciousness of objectionable he is. The RBT Gang of Thugs were born Alinkskyites, not made. --- AJ

On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 12:39:56 PM UTC-5, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 4:46:34 PM UTC, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:

> > Do you suppose that the loud mouths here find it embarrassing to see what the rest of the world thinks of them? Nahh, people like Russell and Flunky pretend that it never happened.
> >
> Nah, the key to the Ugly American at Home or Abroad has always been his blithe unconsciousness of objectionable he is. The RBT Gang of Thugs were born Alinkskyites, not made. --- AJ

Sure we do We also see what they think about you. Here's a rather nice write-up of what europeans thinks of all your trumpian talking points:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/28/opinion/europeans-view-americans.html

In other words the ugly objectionable american is the one that denies the pandemic, denies AGW, limits voting rights, and attacks universal health care as fascism.
Has Andre the Insipid managed to rationalize his attacks on the pandemic and vaccinations with the fact that he eagerly lined up for his jab and booster?
Has Andre the Impotent managed to rationalize how he gloats over using his free public transportation and free health care with his attacks on people in the US advocating for the same?
Andre is as ugly as any american that ever lived, and seems to be proud of his hypocrisy on it.

And by the way skippy, I _do_ know the original intent of the "ugly american" was an homage to an american diplomatic corp engineer who helped Burmese villages develop water pumping systems, farming techniques, and canning businesses from the Burdick and Lederer novel of the same name. Pity nothing you ever wrote has had such staying power.

On 2/15/2022 11:51 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 11:21:42 -0800, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
> wrote:
>
> For Tom: "Sound the alarm. The white coats are coming"
>
>> "As more people get infected with a coronavirus variant, there are fewer
>> people left to infect. When the basic reproductive number falls below
>> one, new infections reach their peak and then decline. To plateau, the
>> rate of new infections has to stabilize somewhere near one, but that
>> would require an unusual set of conditions, according to Lessler."
>
> That's the "Effective Reproduction Number", "Effective Reproductive
> Number", or just Rt number. Santa Cruz County plots Rt on their Covid
> dashboard:
> <https://www.santacruzhealth.org/HSAHome/HSADivisions/PublicHealth/CommunicableDiseaseControl/CoronavirusHome.aspx>
> Looks like we're doing reasonably well.
>
> Rt by state (click on maps):
> <https://epiforecasts.io/covid/posts/national/united-states/>
> Notice that the map shows a decrease in every state.
>
> National Rt, as of Feb 13, 2022:
> New confirmed cases by infection date 81449 (35324 - 213110)
> Expected change in daily cases Likely decreasing
> Effective reproduction no. 0.73 (0.52 - 1.1)
> Rate of growth -0.076 (-0.14 - 0.022)
> Doubling/halving time (days) -9.1 (32 - -4.9)
>
> 0.73 national and 0.63 Calif are ok for now.

Nice summary. Hopefully the reproductive rate continues to stay under 1.
It seems like every time we get to this point, things like mask
requirements, and banning the unvaccinated from certain venues, are
relaxed, then we get a new surge. One positive thing is that the number
of potential super-spreader events is much lower this time of year since
there is less travel and fewer gatherings.

Unfortunately, our two favorite trolls don't have the education or
critical thinking skills to understand any of what you posted. They're
so hopelessly invested in fake news and alternative facts that it's
hopeless to try to educate them. But you go on trying with Tom and Andre!

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will learn something from fools then I say you are a fool!” ― Mehmet
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On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 9:39:56 AM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 4:46:34 PM UTC, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 3:22:44 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 7:02:16 PM UTC, Sepp Ruf wrote:
> > > >
> > > > See, it took me one click on the first page of search results to find
> > > > <https://www.spokeo.com/Richard-Hirschman/Alabama?loaded=1>
> > > > a data set nicely matching that embalmer in Alabama, which Jeff
> > > > supposedly could not. If we can convince Frank to drive to Alabama to
> > > > fact-check on Hirschie, he should also try to invite Tiffany Pontes
> > > > Dover for a tandem ride. You know, that disappeared Kentucky nurse who
> > > > is now said to file her taxes from Higdon, 1,500 souls, Jackson County, Ala.
> > > >
> > > Franki-boy is three monkeys who see no truth, hear no truth, profess no truth. He routinely lies with statistics, and then acts offended when those with a better of statistics, or more honesty in our souls, straighten him out. Letting someone as dishonest as Krygowski, Scarfie, and the rest of the RBT thugs loose on excess fatality numbers is pisspoor practice, not because the statistics are difficult, but because the numbers are subtle beyond the imagination of such poorly educated and rigid people, and because to them a set of numbers is not judged on its illumination of facts but solely as buttress for the bee in their bonnets.
> > > >
> > > > <https://t.me/NeverImpfpflicht/635> A soviet party member type as the
> > > > hero is stupid in Western Europe, but might work with American antifa
> > > > Democrats.
> > > >
> > > I've always wondered why some bright cartoonist didn't make a theme of Angela Merkel as the young Komsomol spokeswoman, the Prussian junior commissar, and assumed it was because she'd have her minions lock up the cartoonist.
> > > >
> > > Andre Jute
> > > Science walks the streets at night, under the lamps of the Place de Laplace.
> > Do you suppose that the loud mouths here find it embarrassing to see what the rest of the world thinks of them? Nahh, people like Russell and Flunky pretend that it never happened.
> >
> Nah, the key to the Ugly American at Home or Abroad has always been his blithe unconsciousness of objectionable he is. The RBT Gang of Thugs were born Alinkskyites, not made. --- AJ
None of these people are bright enough to know who Sal Alinsky was nor how he was the one that taught the Republicans how to fight people like Obama. This in turn forced the Democrats to use election fraud to elect Biden and Biden has destroyed the Democrat Party. Today even the New York Times is seeing the writing on the walls. I doubt that there will be another Democrat elected to high office for at least 30 years. And the Chinese Communist Party will have destroyed itself by then and there will be no psych support for the Democrats so they will be doing good to elect another Jimmy Carter.

On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 10:05:23 PM UTC, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 9:39:56 AM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> > On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 4:46:34 PM UTC, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 3:22:44 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 7:02:16 PM UTC, Sepp Ruf wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > See, it took me one click on the first page of search results to find
> > > > > <https://www.spokeo.com/Richard-Hirschman/Alabama?loaded=1>
> > > > > a data set nicely matching that embalmer in Alabama, which Jeff
> > > > > supposedly could not. If we can convince Frank to drive to Alabama to
> > > > > fact-check on Hirschie, he should also try to invite Tiffany Pontes
> > > > > Dover for a tandem ride. You know, that disappeared Kentucky nurse who
> > > > > is now said to file her taxes from Higdon, 1,500 souls, Jackson County, Ala.
> > > > >
> > > > Franki-boy is three monkeys who see no truth, hear no truth, profess no truth. He routinely lies with statistics, and then acts offended when those with a better of statistics, or more honesty in our souls, straighten him out. Letting someone as dishonest as Krygowski, Scarfie, and the rest of the RBT thugs loose on excess fatality numbers is pisspoor practice, not because the statistics are difficult, but because the numbers are subtle beyond the imagination of such poorly educated and rigid people, and because to them a set of numbers is not judged on its illumination of facts but solely as buttress for the bee in their bonnets.
> > > > >
> > > > > <https://t.me/NeverImpfpflicht/635> A soviet party member type as the
> > > > > hero is stupid in Western Europe, but might work with American antifa
> > > > > Democrats.
> > > > >
> > > > I've always wondered why some bright cartoonist didn't make a theme of Angela Merkel as the young Komsomol spokeswoman, the Prussian junior commissar, and assumed it was because she'd have her minions lock up the cartoonist.
> > > > >
> > > > Andre Jute
> > > > Science walks the streets at night, under the lamps of the Place de Laplace.
> > > Do you suppose that the loud mouths here find it embarrassing to see what the rest of the world thinks of them? Nahh, people like Russell and Flunky pretend that it never happened.
> > >
> > Nah, the key to the Ugly American at Home or Abroad has always been his blithe unconsciousness of objectionable he is. The RBT Gang of Thugs were born Alinkskyites, not made. --- AJ
> None of these people are bright enough to know who Sal Alinsky was nor how he was the one that taught the Republicans how to fight people like Obama.. This in turn forced the Democrats to use election fraud to elect Biden and Biden has destroyed the Democrat Party. Today even the New York Times is seeing the writing on the walls. I doubt that there will be another Democrat elected to high office for at least 30 years. And the Chinese Communist Party will have destroyed itself by then and there will be no psych support for the Democrats so they will be doing good to elect another Jimmy Carter.
>
I wouldn't wish a resurrected Jimmy Carter on even the Donkey Party. That sanctimonious failure was probably the worst president until Joe the asterisk. -- AJ

On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 3:21:55 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 10:05:23 PM UTC, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 9:39:56 AM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 4:46:34 PM UTC, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 3:22:44 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 7:02:16 PM UTC, Sepp Ruf wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > See, it took me one click on the first page of search results to find
> > > > > > <https://www.spokeo.com/Richard-Hirschman/Alabama?loaded=1>
> > > > > > a data set nicely matching that embalmer in Alabama, which Jeff
> > > > > > supposedly could not. If we can convince Frank to drive to Alabama to
> > > > > > fact-check on Hirschie, he should also try to invite Tiffany Pontes
> > > > > > Dover for a tandem ride. You know, that disappeared Kentucky nurse who
> > > > > > is now said to file her taxes from Higdon, 1,500 souls, Jackson County, Ala.
> > > > > >
> > > > > Franki-boy is three monkeys who see no truth, hear no truth, profess no truth. He routinely lies with statistics, and then acts offended when those with a better of statistics, or more honesty in our souls, straighten him out. Letting someone as dishonest as Krygowski, Scarfie, and the rest of the RBT thugs loose on excess fatality numbers is pisspoor practice, not because the statistics are difficult, but because the numbers are subtle beyond the imagination of such poorly educated and rigid people, and because to them a set of numbers is not judged on its illumination of facts but solely as buttress for the bee in their bonnets.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <https://t.me/NeverImpfpflicht/635> A soviet party member type as the
> > > > > > hero is stupid in Western Europe, but might work with American antifa
> > > > > > Democrats.
> > > > > >
> > > > > I've always wondered why some bright cartoonist didn't make a theme of Angela Merkel as the young Komsomol spokeswoman, the Prussian junior commissar, and assumed it was because she'd have her minions lock up the cartoonist.
> > > > > >
> > > > > Andre Jute
> > > > > Science walks the streets at night, under the lamps of the Place de Laplace.
> > > > Do you suppose that the loud mouths here find it embarrassing to see what the rest of the world thinks of them? Nahh, people like Russell and Flunky pretend that it never happened.
> > > >
> > > Nah, the key to the Ugly American at Home or Abroad has always been his blithe unconsciousness of objectionable he is. The RBT Gang of Thugs were born Alinkskyites, not made. --- AJ
> > None of these people are bright enough to know who Sal Alinsky was nor how he was the one that taught the Republicans how to fight people like Obama. This in turn forced the Democrats to use election fraud to elect Biden and Biden has destroyed the Democrat Party. Today even the New York Times is seeing the writing on the walls. I doubt that there will be another Democrat elected to high office for at least 30 years. And the Chinese Communist Party will have destroyed itself by then and there will be no psych support for the Democrats so they will be doing good to elect another Jimmy Carter.
> >
> I wouldn't wish a resurrected Jimmy Carter on even the Donkey Party. That sanctimonious failure was probably the worst president until Joe the asterisk. -- AJ

Yes, but his absolute failures led to the Donkey's attempting to racialize everything and then putting in Joe* who has so destroyed his party that I will have 30 years of peace and I'll be gone by then but not before watching (gleefully) the prosecution of the Joe* regime and their 1,000's of years of combined prison time. Anyone that thinks that Trump is going to be so naïve his second term is sadly mistaken. As a businessman it never occurred to him that EVERY office of the government had been corrupted.

On 2/16/2022 1:19 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Here's a rather nice write-up of what europeans thinks of all your trumpian talking points:
> https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/28/opinion/europeans-view-americans.html
I thought that was quite effective.

This is another (fictionalized) treatment of some of the same sorts of
issues:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIpKfw17-yY

As I've said here before, I'm often interested in how things are done in
other states and nations. And I'm a data guy; I think data can generally
tell us what policies work best.

This makes it hard for me to understand the "SOCIALISM!!!" complaints
about proposed improvements in American health care, education, taxes,
gun control, etc.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 10:19:13 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 12:39:56 PM UTC-5, Andre Jute wrote:
>> On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 4:46:34 PM UTC, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> > Do you suppose that the loud mouths here find it embarrassing to see what the rest of the world thinks of them? Nahh, people like Russell and Flunky pretend that it never happened.
>> >
>> Nah, the key to the Ugly American at Home or Abroad has always been his blithe unconsciousness of objectionable he is. The RBT Gang of Thugs were born Alinkskyites, not made. --- AJ
>
>Sure we do We also see what they think about you. Here's a rather nice write-up of what europeans thinks of all your trumpian talking points:
>https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/28/opinion/europeans-view-americans.html
>
>In other words the ugly objectionable american is the one that denies the pandemic, denies AGW, limits voting rights, and attacks universal health care as fascism.
>Has Andre the Insipid managed to rationalize his attacks on the pandemic and vaccinations with the fact that he eagerly lined up for his jab and booster?
>Has Andre the Impotent managed to rationalize how he gloats over using his free public transportation and free health care with his attacks on people in the US advocating for the same?
>Andre is as ugly as any american that ever lived, and seems to be proud of his hypocrisy on it.
>
>And by the way skippy, I _do_ know the original intent of the "ugly american" was an homage to an american diplomatic corp engineer who helped Burmese villages develop water pumping systems, farming techniques, and canning businesses from the Burdick and Lederer novel of the same name. Pity nothing you ever wrote has had such staying power.

I found the novel rather hilarious having lived in the countries in
SEA that the book depicted. The story about the womenfolk being so
enthusiastic because the hero "invented" long handled brooms...
Which had been in use for generations (:-)
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 14:05:19 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 9:39:56 AM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
>> On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 4:46:34 PM UTC, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 3:22:44 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
>> > > On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 7:02:16 PM UTC, Sepp Ruf wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > See, it took me one click on the first page of search results to find
>> > > > <https://www.spokeo.com/Richard-Hirschman/Alabama?loaded=1>
>> > > > a data set nicely matching that embalmer in Alabama, which Jeff
>> > > > supposedly could not. If we can convince Frank to drive to Alabama to
>> > > > fact-check on Hirschie, he should also try to invite Tiffany Pontes
>> > > > Dover for a tandem ride. You know, that disappeared Kentucky nurse who
>> > > > is now said to file her taxes from Higdon, 1,500 souls, Jackson County, Ala.
>> > > >
>> > > Franki-boy is three monkeys who see no truth, hear no truth, profess no truth. He routinely lies with statistics, and then acts offended when those with a better of statistics, or more honesty in our souls, straighten him out. Letting someone as dishonest as Krygowski, Scarfie, and the rest of the RBT thugs loose on excess fatality numbers is pisspoor practice, not because the statistics are difficult, but because the numbers are subtle beyond the imagination of such poorly educated and rigid people, and because to them a set of numbers is not judged on its illumination of facts but solely as buttress for the bee in their bonnets.
>> > > >
>> > > > <https://t.me/NeverImpfpflicht/635> A soviet party member type as the
>> > > > hero is stupid in Western Europe, but might work with American antifa
>> > > > Democrats.
>> > > >
>> > > I've always wondered why some bright cartoonist didn't make a theme of Angela Merkel as the young Komsomol spokeswoman, the Prussian junior commissar, and assumed it was because she'd have her minions lock up the cartoonist.
>> > > >
>> > > Andre Jute
>> > > Science walks the streets at night, under the lamps of the Place de Laplace.
>> > Do you suppose that the loud mouths here find it embarrassing to see what the rest of the world thinks of them? Nahh, people like Russell and Flunky pretend that it never happened.
>> >
>> Nah, the key to the Ugly American at Home or Abroad has always been his blithe unconsciousness of objectionable he is. The RBT Gang of Thugs were born Alinkskyites, not made. --- AJ

>None of these people are bright enough to know who Sal Alinsky was nor how he was the one that taught the Republicans how to fight people like Obama. This in turn forced the Democrats to use election fraud to elect Biden and Biden has destroyed the Democrat Party. Today even the New York Times is seeing the writing on the walls. I doubt that there will be another Democrat elected to high office for at least 30 years. And the Chinese Communist Party will have destroyed itself by then and there will be no psych support for the Democrats so they will be doing good to elect another Jimmy Carter.

Sal Alinsky??? Well, good old Sal started his career raising finds for
The International Brigades
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Brigades
which were military brigades organized by the Communists to fight
against the government in the Spanish Civil War... they lost.

He then was involved in various schemes to "help" the improvised by
giving them money and the Black Power movement and the Student New
Left, and various other "socialistic" movements.

From a quick reading of his history he comes across as an
"opportunist" always ready to go for the Bucks.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 6:38:58 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 3:21:55 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> > On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 10:05:23 PM UTC, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 9:39:56 AM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 4:46:34 PM UTC, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 3:22:44 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 7:02:16 PM UTC, Sepp Ruf wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > See, it took me one click on the first page of search results to find
> > > > > > > <https://www.spokeo.com/Richard-Hirschman/Alabama?loaded=1>
> > > > > > > a data set nicely matching that embalmer in Alabama, which Jeff
> > > > > > > supposedly could not. If we can convince Frank to drive to Alabama to
> > > > > > > fact-check on Hirschie, he should also try to invite Tiffany Pontes
> > > > > > > Dover for a tandem ride. You know, that disappeared Kentucky nurse who
> > > > > > > is now said to file her taxes from Higdon, 1,500 souls, Jackson County, Ala.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Franki-boy is three monkeys who see no truth, hear no truth, profess no truth. He routinely lies with statistics, and then acts offended when those with a better of statistics, or more honesty in our souls, straighten him out. Letting someone as dishonest as Krygowski, Scarfie, and the rest of the RBT thugs loose on excess fatality numbers is pisspoor practice, not because the statistics are difficult, but because the numbers are subtle beyond the imagination of such poorly educated and rigid people, and because to them a set of numbers is not judged on its illumination of facts but solely as buttress for the bee in their bonnets.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > <https://t.me/NeverImpfpflicht/635> A soviet party member type as the
> > > > > > > hero is stupid in Western Europe, but might work with American antifa
> > > > > > > Democrats.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > I've always wondered why some bright cartoonist didn't make a theme of Angela Merkel as the young Komsomol spokeswoman, the Prussian junior commissar, and assumed it was because she'd have her minions lock up the cartoonist.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Andre Jute
> > > > > > Science walks the streets at night, under the lamps of the Place de Laplace.
> > > > > Do you suppose that the loud mouths here find it embarrassing to see what the rest of the world thinks of them? Nahh, people like Russell and Flunky pretend that it never happened.
> > > > >
> > > > Nah, the key to the Ugly American at Home or Abroad has always been his blithe unconsciousness of objectionable he is. The RBT Gang of Thugs were born Alinkskyites, not made. --- AJ
> > > None of these people are bright enough to know who Sal Alinsky was nor how he was the one that taught the Republicans how to fight people like Obama. This in turn forced the Democrats to use election fraud to elect Biden and Biden has destroyed the Democrat Party. Today even the New York Times is seeing the writing on the walls. I doubt that there will be another Democrat elected to high office for at least 30 years. And the Chinese Communist Party will have destroyed itself by then and there will be no psych support for the Democrats so they will be doing good to elect another Jimmy Carter.
> > >
> > I wouldn't wish a resurrected Jimmy Carter on even the Donkey Party. That sanctimonious failure was probably the worst president until Joe the asterisk. -- AJ
> Yes, but his absolute failures led to the Donkey's attempting to racialize everything and then putting in Joe* who has so destroyed his party that I will have 30 years of peace and I'll be gone by then but not before watching (gleefully) the prosecution of the Joe* regime and their 1,000's of years of combined prison time. Anyone that thinks that Trump is going to be so naïve his second term is sadly mistaken. As a businessman it never occurred to him that EVERY office of the government had been corrupted.

BLah blah blah, you idiots said the same thing about hillary - that went real far...not only no prosecutions, not even an investigation until Durham was appointed (and no, sparky, the durham report does _not_ say the clinton campaign spied on the trump campaign https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/594456-did-durham-find-something-worse-than-watergate-not-so-far).

Meanwhile...https://www.forbes.com/sites/chasewithorn/2022/02/16/why-its-no-surprise-trumps-accounting-firm-is-saying-his-financial-statements-are-unreliable/?sh=6f9672f57e39
"MAGAzines available up to 30 rounds for visiting gay bath houses" - Tom Kunich

Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 2/16/2022 1:19 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> Here's a rather nice write-up of what europeans thinks of all your trumpian talking points:
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/28/opinion/europeans-view-americans.html
> I thought that was quite effective.

To assure the NYT audience, before the election, that Orange Man Bad?
By golly, Frank, you'll never learn when to just siliently cringe when
the clueless Flunkie makes another unforced error, will you?

And while sheepishly nodding your heads, your sleepy brains missed the
the subtle peak moment of unintended ironies:
At 03:50 in the woke donkey kindergarden video, the woke African
Frenchie acting shocked while carelessly playing with the toy gun
pointed at Hegemann, the woke German fashion stylist. She's a prime
candidate for a stage-firearms job with Hollywood-Mexico!
Alternatively, security detail with Turdeau, that will speed things up.

On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 6:03:19 AM UTC-5, Sepp Ruf wrote:
> Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > On 2/16/2022 1:19 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> Here's a rather nice write-up of what europeans thinks of all your trumpian talking points:
> >> https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/28/opinion/europeans-view-americans.html
> > I thought that was quite effective.
> To assure the NYT audience, before the election, that Orange Man Bad?
> By golly, Frank, you'll never learn when to just siliently cringe when
> the clueless Flunkie makes another unforced error, will you?

Error? ok roofie, tell us what europeans really think of trump and the trump 'doctrine' - links to op-eds from reputable journalistic outlets please. Other than the likes of Erdoğan I doubt you'll find any majority sentiment that varies much from overt revulsion of trump. Of course you blithly turn your head and cough when dr jute grabs your balls demands fealty with his blatent lies from town hall - as pathetic a right wing rag as currently exists in cybersphere (save 'the daily stormer' who support donald trump). Perhaps ask him to explain to you why he willingly followed his governments orders to get vaxxed and extols the virtues of their socialized infrastructure and healthcare systems, while criticizing USAian efforts from the Democratic party to give our people the same benefits he enjoys?

>
> And while sheepishly nodding your heads, your sleepy brains missed the
> the subtle peak moment of unintended ironies:
> At 03:50 in the woke donkey kindergarden video, the woke African
> Frenchie acting shocked while carelessly playing with the toy gun
> pointed at Hegemann, the woke German fashion stylist. She's a prime
> candidate for a stage-firearms job with Hollywood-Mexico!
> Alternatively, security detail with Turdeau, that will speed things up.

Now now roofie, you should stop taking English lessons from our resident class buffoon tommy. Not only is that paragraph almost unintelligible, your attempts to use a fictional parody to somehow make some sort of point is completely lost as a result.
Seriously - unhitch your cart from RBTs dumb and dumber mules - these two make The Confederation of Dunces* look like the authors of The Federalist Papers.

*https://www.americanbazaaronline.com/2020/08/08/confederacy-of-rich-dunces-surrounding-trump-propels-meritocracy-myth-442026/
"MAGAzines available up to 30 rounds for visiting gay bath houses" - Tom Kunich

On 2/17/2022 7:08 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 6:03:19 AM UTC-5, Sepp Ruf wrote:
>> Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>> On 2/16/2022 1:19 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>> Here's a rather nice write-up of what europeans thinks of all your trumpian talking points:
>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/28/opinion/europeans-view-americans.html
>>> I thought that was quite effective.
>> To assure the NYT audience, before the election, that Orange Man Bad?
>> By golly, Frank, you'll never learn when to just siliently cringe when
>> the clueless Flunkie makes another unforced error, will you?
>
> Error? ok roofie, tell us what europeans really think of trump and the trump 'doctrine' - links to op-eds from reputable journalistic outlets please. Other than the likes of ErdoÄŸan I doubt you'll find any majority sentiment that varies much from overt revulsion of trump. Of course you blithly turn your head and cough when dr jute grabs your balls demands fealty with his blatent lies from town hall - as pathetic a right wing rag as currently exists in cybersphere (save 'the daily stormer' who support donald trump). Perhaps ask him to explain to you why he willingly followed his governments orders to get vaxxed and extols the virtues of their socialized infrastructure and healthcare systems, while criticizing USAian efforts from the Democratic party to give our people the same benefits he enjoys?
>
>>
>> And while sheepishly nodding your heads, your sleepy brains missed the
>> the subtle peak moment of unintended ironies:
>> At 03:50 in the woke donkey kindergarden video, the woke African
>> Frenchie acting shocked while carelessly playing with the toy gun
>> pointed at Hegemann, the woke German fashion stylist. She's a prime
>> candidate for a stage-firearms job with Hollywood-Mexico!
>> Alternatively, security detail with Turdeau, that will speed things up.
>
> Now now roofie, you should stop taking English lessons from our resident class buffoon tommy. Not only is that paragraph almost unintelligible, your attempts to use a fictional parody to somehow make some sort of point is completely lost as a result.
> Seriously - unhitch your cart from RBTs dumb and dumber mules - these two make The Confederation of Dunces* look like the authors of The Federalist Papers.
>
> *https://www.americanbazaaronline.com/2020/08/08/confederacy-of-rich-dunces-surrounding-trump-propels-meritocracy-myth-442026/
> "MAGAzines available up to 30 rounds for visiting gay bath houses" - Tom Kunich
>

Why should any USAian give a crap about the opinions of the
quislings in Europe?

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 8:51:15 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
> On 2/17/2022 7:08 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 6:03:19 AM UTC-5, Sepp Ruf wrote:
> >> Frank Krygowski wrote:
> >>> On 2/16/2022 1:19 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>>> Here's a rather nice write-up of what europeans thinks of all your trumpian talking points:
> >>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/28/opinion/europeans-view-americans.html
> >>> I thought that was quite effective.
> >> To assure the NYT audience, before the election, that Orange Man Bad?
> >> By golly, Frank, you'll never learn when to just siliently cringe when
> >> the clueless Flunkie makes another unforced error, will you?
> >
> > Error? ok roofie, tell us what europeans really think of trump and the trump 'doctrine' - links to op-eds from reputable journalistic outlets please. Other than the likes of ErdoÄŸan I doubt you'll find any majority sentiment that varies much from overt revulsion of trump. Of course you blithly turn your head and cough when dr jute grabs your balls demands fealty with his blatent lies from town hall - as pathetic a right wing rag as currently exists in cybersphere (save 'the daily stormer' who support donald trump). Perhaps ask him to explain to you why he willingly followed his governments orders to get vaxxed and extols the virtues of their socialized infrastructure and healthcare systems, while criticizing USAian efforts from the Democratic party to give our people the same benefits he enjoys?
> >
> >>
> >> And while sheepishly nodding your heads, your sleepy brains missed the
> >> the subtle peak moment of unintended ironies:
> >> At 03:50 in the woke donkey kindergarden video, the woke African
> >> Frenchie acting shocked while carelessly playing with the toy gun
> >> pointed at Hegemann, the woke German fashion stylist. She's a prime
> >> candidate for a stage-firearms job with Hollywood-Mexico!
> >> Alternatively, security detail with Turdeau, that will speed things up..
> >
> > Now now roofie, you should stop taking English lessons from our resident class buffoon tommy. Not only is that paragraph almost unintelligible, your attempts to use a fictional parody to somehow make some sort of point is completely lost as a result.
> > Seriously - unhitch your cart from RBTs dumb and dumber mules - these two make The Confederation of Dunces* look like the authors of The Federalist Papers.
> >
> > *https://www.americanbazaaronline.com/2020/08/08/confederacy-of-rich-dunces-surrounding-trump-propels-meritocracy-myth-442026/
> > "MAGAzines available up to 30 rounds for visiting gay bath houses" - Tom Kunich
> >
> Why should any USAian give a crap about the opinions of the
> quislings in Europe?
>

Dunno Andrew, why don't you ask tommy, he seems to think it's important:
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/M7b2JIDg0Xk/m/UxV8k3V1BgAJ
> On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 11:46:34 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> Do you suppose that the loud mouths here find it embarrassing to see what the rest of the world thinks of them?
> Nahh, people like Russell and Flunky pretend that it never happened.

Whatever... now we know what your opinion of the greater populace of Europe is anyway. Hint: it's helpful when dealing with people your trying to establishing trade and security agreements with to _not_ refer to them as 'quislings'. Mutual respect is a much better tack in those areas.
"MAGAzines available up to 30 rounds for visiting gay bath houses" - Tom Kunich

On 2/17/2022 11:11 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 8:51:15 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 2/17/2022 7:08 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 6:03:19 AM UTC-5, Sepp Ruf wrote:
>>>> Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>> On 2/16/2022 1:19 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> Here's a rather nice write-up of what europeans thinks of all your trumpian talking points:
>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/28/opinion/europeans-view-americans.html
>>>>> I thought that was quite effective.
>>>> To assure the NYT audience, before the election, that Orange Man Bad?
>>>> By golly, Frank, you'll never learn when to just siliently cringe when
>>>> the clueless Flunkie makes another unforced error, will you?
>>>
>>> Error? ok roofie, tell us what europeans really think of trump and the trump 'doctrine' - links to op-eds from reputable journalistic outlets please. Other than the likes of ErdoÄŸan I doubt you'll find any majority sentiment that varies much from overt revulsion of trump. Of course you blithly turn your head and cough when dr jute grabs your balls demands fealty with his blatent lies from town hall - as pathetic a right wing rag as currently exists in cybersphere (save 'the daily stormer' who support donald trump). Perhaps ask him to explain to you why he willingly followed his governments orders to get vaxxed and extols the virtues of their socialized infrastructure and healthcare systems, while criticizing USAian efforts from the Democratic party to give our people the same benefits he enjoys?
>>>
>>>>
>>>> And while sheepishly nodding your heads, your sleepy brains missed the
>>>> the subtle peak moment of unintended ironies:
>>>> At 03:50 in the woke donkey kindergarden video, the woke African
>>>> Frenchie acting shocked while carelessly playing with the toy gun
>>>> pointed at Hegemann, the woke German fashion stylist. She's a prime
>>>> candidate for a stage-firearms job with Hollywood-Mexico!
>>>> Alternatively, security detail with Turdeau, that will speed things up.
>>>
>>> Now now roofie, you should stop taking English lessons from our resident class buffoon tommy. Not only is that paragraph almost unintelligible, your attempts to use a fictional parody to somehow make some sort of point is completely lost as a result.
>>> Seriously - unhitch your cart from RBTs dumb and dumber mules - these two make The Confederation of Dunces* look like the authors of The Federalist Papers.
>>>
>>> *https://www.americanbazaaronline.com/2020/08/08/confederacy-of-rich-dunces-surrounding-trump-propels-meritocracy-myth-442026/
>>> "MAGAzines available up to 30 rounds for visiting gay bath houses" - Tom Kunich
>>>
>> Why should any USAian give a crap about the opinions of the
>> quislings in Europe?
>>
>
> Dunno Andrew, why don't you ask tommy, he seems to think it's important:
> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/M7b2JIDg0Xk/m/UxV8k3V1BgAJ
>> On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 11:46:34 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Do you suppose that the loud mouths here find it embarrassing to see what the rest of the world thinks of them?
>> Nahh, people like Russell and Flunky pretend that it never happened.
>
> Whatever... now we know what your opinion of the greater populace of Europe is anyway. Hint: it's helpful when dealing with people your trying to establishing trade and security agreements with to _not_ refer to them as 'quislings'. Mutual respect is a much better tack in those areas.
> "MAGAzines available up to 30 rounds for visiting gay bath houses" - Tom Kunich
>

Call it as you see it but IMHO the Poles and Magyars are
very much aligned to US cultural values. The Lithuanians,
presently under attack, are getting religion, pronto. Not so
much for Germany who has no principles beyond selling cars
in china and buying Russian energy to offset their national
suicide energy policies. Oh, and they're big on selling rope
to the Persians, unaware of who will be hanged. 'EU policy'
is whatever the current Chancellor of All The Germans says
it is.

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Andrew Muzi
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