On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 3:17:14 PM UTC-6, AMuzi wrote:
> On 2/17/2022 12:49 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 12:47:01 PM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
> >> On 2/17/2022 11:11 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Now now roofie, you should stop taking English lessons from our resident class buffoon tommy. Not only is that paragraph almost unintelligible, your attempts to use a fictional parody to somehow make some sort of point is completely lost as a result.
> >>>>> Seriously - unhitch your cart from RBTs dumb and dumber mules - these two make The Confederation of Dunces* look like the authors of The Federalist Papers.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *https://www.americanbazaaronline.com/2020/08/08/confederacy-of-rich-dunces-surrounding-trump-propels-meritocracy-myth-442026/
> >>>>> "MAGAzines available up to 30 rounds for visiting gay bath houses" - Tom Kunich
> >>>>>
> >>>> Why should any USAian give a crap about the opinions of the
> >>>> quislings in Europe?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Dunno Andrew, why don't you ask tommy, he seems to think it's important:
> >>> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/M7b2JIDg0Xk/m/UxV8k3V1BgAJ
> >>>> On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 11:46:34 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> Do you suppose that the loud mouths here find it embarrassing to see what the rest of the world thinks of them?
> >>>> Nahh, people like Russell and Flunky pretend that it never happened.
> >>>
> >>> Whatever... now we know what your opinion of the greater populace of Europe is anyway. Hint: it's helpful when dealing with people your trying to establishing trade and security agreements with to _not_ refer to them as 'quislings'. Mutual respect is a much better tack in those areas.
> >>> "MAGAzines available up to 30 rounds for visiting gay bath houses" - Tom Kunich
> >>>
> >> Call it as you see it but IMHO the Poles and Magyars are
> >> very much aligned to US cultural values.
> >
> > hmmm....Hungarian Prime Mnister Viktor Orbán said in his 2018 speech at the meeting of the Association of Cities with County Rights, "We must state that we do not want to be diverse and do not want to be mixed: we do not want our own colour, traditions and national culture to be mixed with those of others. We do not want this. We do not want that at all. We do not want to be a diverse country". Is that a value that you think the US already has, or should have?
> >
> >> The Lithuanians,
> >> presently under attack, are getting religion, pronto.
> >
> > I haven't seem much of any change at all in Lithuania, culturally or politically. They've been a good ally of the US for decades - since they declared independence from the USSR. They are members in good standing of the EU, the UN, and NATO, and have free national health care. What is this "religion" you speak of?
> >
> >
> >> Not so
> >> much for Germany who has no principles beyond selling cars
> >> in china and buying Russian energy to offset their national
> >> suicide energy policies. Oh, and they're big on selling rope
> >> to the Persians, unaware of who will be hanged. 'EU policy'
> >> is whatever the current Chancellor of All The Germans says
> >> it is.
> >
> > Call it as you see it - When their economy collapses and they are taken over by some Islamic State variant, feel free to say 'I told you so'.
> > "MAGAzines available up to 30 rounds for visiting gay bath houses" - Tom Kunich
> >
> >
> >
> Belarus is importing jihadis on their state airline and
> dumping them at the Lithuanian border:
>
> https://apnews.com/article/europe-immigration-migration-belarus-lithuania-342b8c966e57c41f3ebf0bbd8b3d232e
>
> Lithuania is a small and not rich country.
>
> Hungary has a double-row tall razor wire complete border
> barrier which has been very effective and enthusiastically
> supported by the voters.
> --
> Andrew Muzi
> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Enthusiastically supported by the voters?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Orb%C3%A1n
"Because of Orbán's curtailing of press freedom, erosion of judicial independence and undermining of multiparty democracy, many political scientists and watchdogs consider Hungary to have experienced democratic backsliding during Orbán's tenure. Orbán's attacks on the European Union while accepting its money and funneling it to his allies and family have also led to characterizations of his government as a kleptocracy."

East Germany, the USSR, put a wall around West Berlin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Wall
"The Wall cut off West Berlin from surrounding East Germany, including East Berlin.......The Eastern Bloc portrayed the Wall as protecting its population from fascist elements conspiring to prevent the "will of the people" from building a socialist state in East Germany."

On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 5:43:45 PM UTC-6, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 12:16:27 PM UTC-8, Sepp Ruf wrote:
> > AMuzi wrote:
> > > On 2/17/2022 7:08 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > >> February 17, 2022 at 6:03:19 AM UTC-5, Sepp Ruf wrote:
> > >>> Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > >>>> On 2/16/2022 1:19 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > >>>>> Here's a rather nice write-up of what europeans thinks of all
> > >>>>> your trumpian talking points:
> > >>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/28/opinion/europeans-view-americans.html
> > >>>> I thought that was quite effective.
> > >>> To assure the NYT audience, before the election, that Orange Man
> > >>> Bad? By golly, Frank, you'll never learn when to just silently
> > >>> cringe when the clueless Flunkie makes another unforced error,
> > >>> will you?
> > >>
> > >> Error? ok roofie, tell us what europeans really think of trump and
> > >> the trump 'doctrine' - links to op-eds from reputable journalistic
> > >> outlets please. Other than the likes of ErdoÄŸan I doubt you'll
> > >> find any majority sentiment that varies much from overt revulsion
> > >> of trump.
> > You confuse real thought with majority sentiment. Well done, Flunkie,
> > you reliably keep scoring for the opposite team.
> >
> > >> Perhaps ask [Jute] to explain to you why he willingly followed his
> > >> governments orders to get vaxxed and extols the virtues of their
> > >> socialized infrastructure and healthcare systems, while criticizing
> > >> USAian efforts from the Democratic party to give our people the
> > >> same benefits he enjoys?
> > AFAIR, Andre writes as a self-professed polemicist, not bound by your
> > idea of reserving full freedom of expression to the factually and
> > politically correct US resident. Unsurprisingly, you fail to notice
> > that your complaint seems uncomfortably close to Tom's notion of US
> > taxpayers enjoying full rbt privileges. Assumably, the old fellows,
> > like elsewhere, followed a trusted doctor's advice before any Irish
> > government orders. I will not blame the elderly, the obese, the frail,
> > or the politically inexperienced for getting themselves experimentally
> > injected.
> > >>> And while sheepishly nodding your heads, your sleepy brains
> > >>> missed the the subtle peak moment of unintended ironies: At 03:50
> > >>> in the woke donkey kindergarden video, the woke African Frenchie
> > >>> acting shocked while carelessly playing with the toy gun pointed
> > >>> at Hegemann, the woke German fashion stylist. She's a prime
> > >>> candidate for a stage-firearms job with Hollywood-Mexico!
> > >>> Alternatively, security detail with Turdeau, that will speed
> > >>> things up.
> > >>
> > >> Now now roofie, you should stop taking English lessons from our
> > >> resident class buffoon tommy. Not only is that paragraph almost
> > >> unintelligible, your attempts to use a fictional parody to somehow
> > >> make some sort of point is completely lost as a result. Seriously -
> > >> unhitch your cart from RBTs dumb and dumber mules - these two make
> > >> The Confederation of Dunces* look like the authors of The
> > >> Federalist Papers.
> > Meister genius, you should worry more about looking so foolish against
> > an aged, international polemicist and an aged, and brain-injured,
> > Californian. And as an accountant, please try not to lecture anyone
> > except Volkswagen or Pfizer on what a fictional parody might be.
> >
> > So here's the deal, Funkmariechen: The woke NYT's fat Belgian
> > interviewee was the only one in that Erasmus millennial freakshow who
> > looked like fun. Before moving to Brussels to ride paves on weekends,
> > and to ride on silly roadside facilities each workday, you pass French
> > proficiency tests, plus some Dutch lessons.
> >
> > >> *https://www.americanbazaaronline.com/2020/08/08/confederacy-of-rich-dunces-surrounding-trump-propels-meritocracy-myth-442026/
> > >
> > > Why should any USAian give a crap about the opinions of the quislings
> > > in Europe?
> > We'll disagree on who might be whose quisling, but when Lou can agree
> > with above sentence, it can be considered consensual.
> >
> >
> > --
> > "What is the sense of NATO? It is to keep the Americans in, the Russians
> > out, and the Germans down."
> > - Lord Hastings Lionel Ismay
> Our posting friend Russell is the bookkeeper and I applaud that although he is often incorrect he has at least the courage to be so under his own name. Flunky has claimed at different times for be an engineer which he so plainly is not. At other times he has claimed to be a manager of technicians for which plainly he is underqualified but no doubt has the ego for.

Accountant, not bookkeeper. Your mistake is analogous, except 100% opposite, of you claiming to be an engineer, except you are a toolbox carrier and floor sweeper.

>
> While recovering from my concussion and resulting untreated seizures. I appeared to several people here to be bragging about my accomplishments when rather I was relearning my past and rather surprised by it. Why shouldn't I be impressed with accomplishments that would be the pride of a masters degree? Now that the engineering part of my memory has largely returned I find it somewhat humorous that companies would rather go broke than hire me because I don't have a degree. I have no need of a job, I am independently wealthy. I would apply only as a challenge.
>
> Elon Musk really hasn't a real education. He has a BS in economics and a BA is physics. Rather backwards. His innate intelligence is the source of all of his accomplishments and not his education. Rather as proof of that, he was accepted at Stanford in a PhD program and dropped out after two days to get rich instead. One should probably ask - wasn't the point of education to be able to earn a descent living? And isn't getting rich proof of education?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk
"Musk was born to a Canadian mother and South African father, and raised in Pretoria, South Africa. He briefly attended the University of Pretoria before moving to Canada at age 17 to avoid conscription."

??? My Dad and uncles were all conscripted by the US military. They did not run away and hide in another country. Or claim bone spurs.

On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 6:07:11 PM UTC-6, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 1:21:35 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > On 2/17/2022 8:51 AM, AMuzi wrote:
> > >
> > > Why should any USAian give a crap about the opinions of the quislings in
> > > Europe?
> > If we were talking about mere opinions, pulled Kunich-style out of their
> > nether orifices, perhaps you could justify ignoring them. But did you
> > miss the fact that those people were reacting to actual data? Their
> > opinions are reactions to _facts_.
> >
> > And while I recognize that the right wing has no great love of facts,
> > the _facts_ are that in the matters discussed, U.S. policies and their
> > results compare dismally with most of western Europe's policies and
> > results.
> >
> > In my mind, the most blatant examples are the policies regarding health
> > care, guns and income/wealth disparity - although you could certainly
> > add our policies on criminal justice, "defense" spending and many others
> > if you choose.
> >
> > Medical treatment: The U.S. spends far, far more than any other
> > developed country. A far smaller portion of the population gets proper
> > medical care. Medical costs are a major factor in personal bankruptcies..
> > Our infant mortality rates are comparatively dismal. Our life
> > expectancies are not much better. We pay _way_ more and get much worse
> > results. How is that smart?
> >
> > Gun policy: Any whacko can easily get as many guns as he wants that are
> > designed primarily for killing people. Sure, most are not used for that
> > purpose; they're used only for target practice to pretend to kill
> > people, or to keep in a drawer in case some other whacko barges into
> > your house with _his_ gun. But that's still the main reason the U.S.
> > firearm death rate is a dozen times worse than that of Europe.
> >
> > Income/wealth disparity: Anyone with a glimmering of knowledge of
> > history should understand that societies do better if the poor don't
> > have their noses rubbed in the shit of the super-wealthy. Extreme
> > disparities generate crime and occasionally revolution, and in the U.S.
> > that usually involves those guns. When a punk who has to save up to buy
> > a McDonalds meal walks past an iPhone store or high-end jewelry store,
> > serious temptation isn't unlikely. It explains a lot of our crime rate.
> >
> > What we've got, if you think about it, is a huge "natural experiment."
> > We've got different societies with different policies - specifically,
> > the U.S. vs. almost all other developed nations. It's smart to look at
> > the resulting data from this "natural experiment."
> >
> > But that data looks bad for the U.S., at least to anyone who is willing
> > to remove their ideological blinders.
> Frank, you should at least attempt to stay on the rails. Yes, medical care is very expensive in the United States. Almost ALL of the medical advances in the world come the US and that is financed by the people who need and use it. A person in the US with your so-called "poor medical care" is generally healthier than people elsewhere save Europe and they are not healthier because of medical care but because of genetic conditioning.

Hmmmmm. One of my grandpas was born in Germany. Not sure about the other three. But all are immigrants or children of immigrants from Europe. I am only the second or third or fourth generation born in America. Since you are a genetics expert Tommy, do you think genetics change so quickly in just two or three or four breedings?

1,000 plagues in a dense population tend to have survival of the fittest and not survival of those with the best medical care.
>
> As for your fear of guns - I wonder why you couldn't look up just how dangerous the US is?
>
> El Salvador (52.02 per 100k people)
> Jamaica (43.85 per 100k people)
> Lesotho (43.56 per 100k people)
> Honduras (38.93 per 100k people)
> Belize (37.79 per 100k people)
> Venezuela (36.69 per 100k people)
> Saint Vincent And the Grenadines (36.54 per 100k people)
> South Africa (36.40 per 100k people)
> Saint Kitts And Nevis (36.09 per 100k people)
> Nigeria (34.52 per 100k people)
> Brazil (30.8),
> Venezuela (49.9),
> Colombia (25)
>
> The US has 17.2 despite having a very large racial difference.

We should be very proud in the USA that we beat out Colombia, Venezuela, Brazil, Nigeria, South Africa, Honduras for murder rate. Good comparison Tommy. How does the USA compare to the other G7 countries? Like Canada, Britain, Germany, France, Italy, Japan? You do mention Japan is the lowest down below. And Europe is very low like Japan too. But maybe Canada is murdering people left and right up north.

>
> Africa's rate came in at 13.0, but with the major caveat that "the raw statistics for many countries are not available." Similarly, Oceania posted an impressive rate of 2.8, but official homicide reports "tend to deviate substantially from information on violence contained in hospital records," suggesting that many homicides may be going unreported to the police. Finally, Europe (3.0) and Asia (2.3) displayed rates of less than half the global average.
>
> Though little reported Russia is a higher murder rate than they report. China claims to not have murder and yet the Chinese gangs murder at will and they use torture and slaughter of children.
>
> Japan is the country with the lowest rates of homicide. This is because murder is punished with hanging. And they NEVER defund the police.
>
> You frown upon that.
>
> You don't like disparity of income? Too bad. You don't have a say over that. All of your comments amount to a small bowl of beans. There is someone with a very large set of ideological blinders and it is you.

On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 00:00:55 -0800 (PST), "russellseaton1@yahoo.com"
<ritzannaseaton@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 7:51:15 AM UTC-6, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 2/17/2022 7:08 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> > On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 6:03:19 AM UTC-5, Sepp Ruf wrote:
>> >> Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> >>> On 2/16/2022 1:19 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >>>> Here's a rather nice write-up of what europeans thinks of all your trumpian talking points:
>> >>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/28/opinion/europeans-view-americans.html
>> >>> I thought that was quite effective.
>> >> To assure the NYT audience, before the election, that Orange Man Bad?
>> >> By golly, Frank, you'll never learn when to just siliently cringe when
>> >> the clueless Flunkie makes another unforced error, will you?
>> >
>> > Error? ok roofie, tell us what europeans really think of trump and the trump 'doctrine' - links to op-eds from reputable journalistic outlets please. Other than the likes of Erdoğan I doubt you'll find any majority sentiment that varies much from overt revulsion of trump. Of course you blithly turn your head and cough when dr jute grabs your balls demands fealty with his blatent lies from town hall - as pathetic a right wing rag as currently exists in cybersphere (save 'the daily stormer' who support donald trump). Perhaps ask him to explain to you why he willingly followed his governments orders to get vaxxed and extols the virtues of their socialized infrastructure and healthcare systems, while criticizing USAian efforts from the Democratic party to give our people the same benefits he enjoys?
>> >
>> >>
>> >> And while sheepishly nodding your heads, your sleepy brains missed the
>> >> the subtle peak moment of unintended ironies:
>> >> At 03:50 in the woke donkey kindergarden video, the woke African
>> >> Frenchie acting shocked while carelessly playing with the toy gun
>> >> pointed at Hegemann, the woke German fashion stylist. She's a prime
>> >> candidate for a stage-firearms job with Hollywood-Mexico!
>> >> Alternatively, security detail with Turdeau, that will speed things up.
>> >
>> > Now now roofie, you should stop taking English lessons from our resident class buffoon tommy. Not only is that paragraph almost unintelligible, your attempts to use a fictional parody to somehow make some sort of point is completely lost as a result.
>> > Seriously - unhitch your cart from RBTs dumb and dumber mules - these two make The Confederation of Dunces* look like the authors of The Federalist Papers.
>> >
>> > *https://www.americanbazaaronline.com/2020/08/08/confederacy-of-rich-dunces-surrounding-trump-propels-meritocracy-myth-442026/
>> > "MAGAzines available up to 30 rounds for visiting gay bath houses" - Tom Kunich
>> >
>> Why should any USAian give a crap about the opinions of the
>> quislings in Europe?
>>
>> --
>> Andrew Muzi
>> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>
>I think its important to listen and understand everyone's opinion about many different matters. Even the Republicans do have some valid points. An example. In the 1950s and 60s and 70s, the USA blindly supported the Shah of Iran. We did not listen or pay attention to the subjects of Iran. We did not care about their opinion. But the Ayatollah did listen to their opinion. And from about 1979 until today, Iran has been a sore point in the USA. It is very likely we could have easily prevented this.

If you read post WW II history the U.S. has, I believe without fail,
supported regimes that were friendly to the U.S.... which, in essence,
makes sense.

But on the other hand they seem to underwrite leaders who have an
affinity for upsetting the population, or perhaps more accurately, the
"Big Guys". In Korea, the U.S. installed, or accepted Syngman Rhee who
was so corrupt that the CIA, it is said, had to flew him out to exile
in Hawaii or he would have been assassinated. In Viet Nam the U.S.
supported the Ngô Ðình Diem tribe who were fanatical Christians in a
largely non-Christian country, and who were ultimately assassinated.
Then, of course the Iran thing where the U.S. were active in the
overthrow of a dully elected Prime Minister, Mohammed Mossadeq. Then
Iraq where admittedly I don't keep track of but the last I read there
was still the "green zone" where it is safe for foreigners to stay.
Then, of course, there is the Afghanistan thing... history tells us
that no foreign country has ever conquered Afghanistan. The British
did control the capital after the 2nd Afghan war but they never
controlled the countryside.

I find it peculiar that a country that is so advanced makes so many
bad judgments.

--
Cheers,

John B.

Am 17.02.2022 um 18:46 schrieb AMuzi:
> On 2/17/2022 11:11 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 8:51:15 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
>>> On 2/17/2022 7:08 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 6:03:19 AM UTC-5, Sepp Ruf wrote:
>>>>> Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/16/2022 1:19 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> Here's a rather nice write-up of what europeans thinks of all
>>>>>>> your trumpian talking points:
>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/28/opinion/europeans-view-americans.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought that was quite effective.
>>>>> To assure the NYT audience, before the election, that Orange Man Bad?
>>>>> By golly, Frank, you'll never learn when to just siliently cringe when
>>>>> the clueless Flunkie makes another unforced error, will you?
>>>>
>>>> Error? ok roofie, tell us what europeans really think of trump and
>>>> the trump 'doctrine' - links to op-eds from reputable journalistic
>>>> outlets please. Other than the likes of ErdoÄŸan I doubt you'll
>>>> find any majority sentiment that varies much from overt revulsion of
>>>> trump. Of course you blithly turn your head and cough when dr jute
>>>> grabs your balls demands fealty with his blatent lies from town hall
>>>> - as pathetic a right wing rag as currently exists in cybersphere
>>>> (save 'the daily stormer' who support donald trump). Perhaps ask him
>>>> to explain to you why he willingly followed his governments orders
>>>> to get vaxxed and extols the virtues of their socialized
>>>> infrastructure and healthcare systems, while criticizing USAian
>>>> efforts from the Democratic party to give our people the same
>>>> benefits he enjoys?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And while sheepishly nodding your heads, your sleepy brains missed the
>>>>> the subtle peak moment of unintended ironies:
>>>>> At 03:50 in the woke donkey kindergarden video, the woke African
>>>>> Frenchie acting shocked while carelessly playing with the toy gun
>>>>> pointed at Hegemann, the woke German fashion stylist. She's a prime
>>>>> candidate for a stage-firearms job with Hollywood-Mexico!
>>>>> Alternatively, security detail with Turdeau, that will speed things
>>>>> up.
>>>>
>>>> Now now roofie, you should stop taking English lessons from our
>>>> resident class buffoon tommy. Not only is that paragraph almost
>>>> unintelligible, your attempts to use a fictional parody to somehow
>>>> make some sort of point is completely lost as a result.
>>>> Seriously - unhitch your cart from RBTs dumb and dumber mules -
>>>> these two make The Confederation of Dunces* look like the authors of
>>>> The Federalist Papers.
>>>>
>>>> *https://www.americanbazaaronline.com/2020/08/08/confederacy-of-rich-dunces-surrounding-trump-propels-meritocracy-myth-442026/
>>>>
>>>> "MAGAzines available up to 30 rounds for visiting gay bath houses" -
>>>> Tom Kunich
>>>>
>>> Why should any USAian give a crap about the opinions of the
>>> quislings in Europe?
>>>
>>
>> Dunno Andrew, why don't you ask tommy, he seems to think it's important:
>> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/M7b2JIDg0Xk/m/UxV8k3V1BgAJ
>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 11:46:34 AM UTC-5,
>>> cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Do you suppose that the loud mouths here find it embarrassing to see
>>> what the rest of the world thinks of them?
>>> Nahh, people like Russell and Flunky pretend that it never happened.
>>
>> Whatever... now we know what your opinion of the greater populace of
>> Europe is anyway. Hint: it's helpful when dealing with people your
>> trying to establishing trade and security agreements with to _not_
>> refer to them as 'quislings'. Mutual respect is a much better tack in
>> those areas.
>> "MAGAzines available up to 30 rounds for visiting gay bath houses" -
>> Tom Kunich
>
> Call it as you see it but IMHO the Poles and Magyars are very much
> aligned to US cultural values.

Are you talking about the cultural value of "bringing as much government
money into private pockets"? Yes, Mr Orban is nearly as good at this
game as Mr Trump.
Are you talking about "No abortions if at all possible"? Yes, Texas and
Poland are pretty much on one line, while the Netherlands and New
England are on the opposite end of the scale (my understanding was that
Wisconsin and Minnesota are somewhere in the middle but nearer to New
York than to Texas).
Are you talking about "Let's stack the courts in an unbalanced way"?
PIS and the Republicains are having similar ideas, but the Republicains
were lacking the ruthlessness to force existing judges into retirement
in order to get the chance to re-appoint the positions.

Rolf

On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 6:43:43 AM UTC-5, Rolf Mantel wrote:
> Am 17.02.2022 um 18:46 schrieb AMuzi:
> > On 2/17/2022 11:11 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 8:51:15 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
> >>> On 2/17/2022 7:08 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>>> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 6:03:19 AM UTC-5, Sepp Ruf wrote:
> >>>>> Frank Krygowski wrote:
> >>>>>> On 2/16/2022 1:19 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>> Here's a rather nice write-up of what europeans thinks of all
> >>>>>>> your trumpian talking points:
> >>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/28/opinion/europeans-view-americans.html
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> I thought that was quite effective.
> >>>>> To assure the NYT audience, before the election, that Orange Man Bad?
> >>>>> By golly, Frank, you'll never learn when to just siliently cringe when
> >>>>> the clueless Flunkie makes another unforced error, will you?
> >>>>
> >>>> Error? ok roofie, tell us what europeans really think of trump and
> >>>> the trump 'doctrine' - links to op-eds from reputable journalistic
> >>>> outlets please. Other than the likes of ErdoÄŸan I doubt you'll
> >>>> find any majority sentiment that varies much from overt revulsion of
> >>>> trump. Of course you blithly turn your head and cough when dr jute
> >>>> grabs your balls demands fealty with his blatent lies from town hall
> >>>> - as pathetic a right wing rag as currently exists in cybersphere
> >>>> (save 'the daily stormer' who support donald trump). Perhaps ask him
> >>>> to explain to you why he willingly followed his governments orders
> >>>> to get vaxxed and extols the virtues of their socialized
> >>>> infrastructure and healthcare systems, while criticizing USAian
> >>>> efforts from the Democratic party to give our people the same
> >>>> benefits he enjoys?
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And while sheepishly nodding your heads, your sleepy brains missed the
> >>>>> the subtle peak moment of unintended ironies:
> >>>>> At 03:50 in the woke donkey kindergarden video, the woke African
> >>>>> Frenchie acting shocked while carelessly playing with the toy gun
> >>>>> pointed at Hegemann, the woke German fashion stylist. She's a prime
> >>>>> candidate for a stage-firearms job with Hollywood-Mexico!
> >>>>> Alternatively, security detail with Turdeau, that will speed things
> >>>>> up.
> >>>>
> >>>> Now now roofie, you should stop taking English lessons from our
> >>>> resident class buffoon tommy. Not only is that paragraph almost
> >>>> unintelligible, your attempts to use a fictional parody to somehow
> >>>> make some sort of point is completely lost as a result.
> >>>> Seriously - unhitch your cart from RBTs dumb and dumber mules -
> >>>> these two make The Confederation of Dunces* look like the authors of
> >>>> The Federalist Papers.
> >>>>
> >>>> *https://www.americanbazaaronline.com/2020/08/08/confederacy-of-rich-dunces-surrounding-trump-propels-meritocracy-myth-442026/
> >>>>
> >>>> "MAGAzines available up to 30 rounds for visiting gay bath houses" -
> >>>> Tom Kunich
> >>>>
> >>> Why should any USAian give a crap about the opinions of the
> >>> quislings in Europe?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Dunno Andrew, why don't you ask tommy, he seems to think it's important:
> >> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/M7b2JIDg0Xk/m/UxV8k3V1BgAJ
> >>
> >>> On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 11:46:34 AM UTC-5,
> >>> cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> Do you suppose that the loud mouths here find it embarrassing to see
> >>> what the rest of the world thinks of them?
> >>> Nahh, people like Russell and Flunky pretend that it never happened.
> >>
> >> Whatever... now we know what your opinion of the greater populace of
> >> Europe is anyway. Hint: it's helpful when dealing with people your
> >> trying to establishing trade and security agreements with to _not_
> >> refer to them as 'quislings'. Mutual respect is a much better tack in
> >> those areas.
> >> "MAGAzines available up to 30 rounds for visiting gay bath houses" -
> >> Tom Kunich
> >
> > Call it as you see it but IMHO the Poles and Magyars are very much
> > aligned to US cultural values.
> Are you talking about the cultural value of "bringing as much government
> money into private pockets"? Yes, Mr Orban is nearly as good at this
> game as Mr Trump.
> Are you talking about "No abortions if at all possible"? Yes, Texas and
> Poland are pretty much on one line, while the Netherlands and New
> England are on the opposite end of the scale (my understanding was that
> Wisconsin and Minnesota are somewhere in the middle but nearer to New
> York than to Texas).
> Are you talking about "Let's stack the courts in an unbalanced way"?
> PIS and the Republicains are having similar ideas, but the Republicains
> were lacking the ruthlessness to force existing judges into retirement
> in order to get the chance to re-appoint the positions.
>
> Rolf
+1

On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 5:31:54 PM UTC-5, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 8:16:27 PM UTC, Sepp Ruf wrote:
> >
> > Funkmariechen
> >
> Thanks for the giggle, Sepp. The little non-kulturny twerp will never get the pun in a foreign language. Don't translate for him; let him worry about it.

Believe me when I tell you, I have absolutely no worries what 'secret' language you you three dullards share amoungst yourselves, at the end of the day it's the same result - andre is a eagerly deceitful and hypocritical little troll, kunich is a qanon tool, and sepp is a sycophant for you both. My ego remains intact and robust, unlike andre revealing his frailty by peppering this forum with non-cycling related bullshit to vent his frustration at being able to wallpaper his government subsidized hovel with rejection letters.

On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 6:43:45 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> Flunky has claimed at different times for be an engineer which he so plainly is not.

Sure sparky, Got that link on how to test cables with PWM yet*? How how about that link showing 'light lines' is a common term for fiber optics?

> At other times he has claimed to be a manager of technicians for which plainly he is underqualified but no doubt has the ego for.

It's no surprise that you can't grasp the idea that both are possible, even from someone whom you would deem qualified (given tommy's utter lack of technical ability, it's likely he would pick such individuals based on their political affiliation)

>
> While recovering from my concussion and resulting untreated seizures.
> I appeared to several people here to be bragging about my accomplishments when rather I was relearning my past and rather surprised by it.

Sure sparky, bragging ≠ announcing how great your "accomplishments" are.

> Why shouldn't I be impressed with accomplishments that would be the pride of a masters degree?

A master's level engineer would be embarrassed by your work history, mr. 'light lines'.

> Now that the engineering part of my memory has largely returned I find it somewhat humorous
> that companies would rather go broke than hire me because I don't have a degree.
> I have no need of a job, I am independently wealthy. I would apply only as a challenge.

Here's a challenge - keep a job for more than year. Pretty much everyone else on the planet can do it, except of course for the most ignorant and arrogant amoung us.

>
> Elon Musk really hasn't a real education. He has a BS in economics and a BA is physics.

Ahhh hahahah!!! A BS in economics and a BA in physics _isn't_ a real education.....A BS in economics and a BA is physics is completely irrelevant to a one of the richest guys in the world who made his fortune in technology companies....I gues that the kind of "reasning" we should expect from someone who thinks Obama inherited a good economy.....HAH!!!

> Rather backwards. His innate intelligence is the source of all of his accomplishments and not his education.
> Rather as proof of that, he was accepted at Stanford in a PhD program and dropped out after two days to get rich instead.
> One should probably ask - wasn't the point of education to be able to earn a descent living?

yes, it doesn't always work.

> And isn't getting rich proof of education?

No, and no one here ever claimed that it is.
"MAGAzines available up to 30 rounds for visiting gay bathhouses" - Tom Kunich

On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 9:04:44 PM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
> >
> It's a State of NY case from an AG who ran on the promise of
> a Donald J Trump witch hunt and she's fulfilling her
> campaign promise, facts be damned. NY already has his
> purloined tax forms (for anyone else that's felonious) and
> didn't find much of anything notable beyond employee use of
> (clutch pearls here) company vehicle. OMG! That's never ever
> happened anywhere before! pfft.
>
> Besides which the real property records, assessments, code
> violations, inspection records, complaints and taxes are all
> public record. If there was a there there it would be
> already known.
>
> Anyone familiar with commercial real estate knows it's a
> running series of artful presentations where the investors,
> the banks, the tenants and the assessor all are given
> different 'valuations' at different times. And he's not only
> a pro, he prospered in that environment.
>
> Quote me on this: This nth iteration of 'examining Trump
> real estate' is going nowhere.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chasewithorn/2022/02/16/why-its-no-surprise-trumps-accounting-firm-is-saying-his-financial-statements-are-unreliable/?sh=1efc6ff77e39

> --
> Andrew Muzi
> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Andre Jute wrote:
> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 8:16:27 PM UTC, Sepp Ruf wrote:
>>
>> Funkmariechen
>>
> The little non-kulturny twerp will never
> get the pun in a foreign language. Don't translate for him; let him
> worry about it.

Oh, the search engines are awfully fault-tolerant, but it won't help
her. Long time since I came across some caricature of a
chauvinist-bolshie minded junior-high bully who deemed himself a better
American than Freisler ever was.

>> "What is the sense of NATO? It is to keep the Americans in, the
>> Russians out, and the Germans down." - Lord Hastings Lionel Ismay
>>
> Yes, and a very good idea it was too, when people remembered that the
> vindictive Peace of Versailles just about guaranteed another world
> war. But now the Germans have become so rich and powerful, they don't
> need tanks when they own the EU.

That's gone, the valuables are now in the pockets of BlackRock, Arab
oil, or the Xi-CP. Sitting in the EU's Atlantic tax haven, painting,
enjoying drinks, reading your favorite London publishers, you might have
missed the implications of eurosystem's Target-2 mechanism. Basically,
the eurozone's South buying Northern goods on credit never designed to
be paid back. Draghi, Lagarde and their German quislings have
increasingly wounded the utility of pesty cash currency in order to
minimize resistance to the rollout of the digital-ID based global
digital dictatorship. Which, of course, is only a conspiracy theory,
just as strangely deficient public personalities are ... who regularly
turn out to be WEF young global leaders:
<https://twitter.com/JoyCannabis/status/1493426769176633349>

> The logical progression from where [we]
> stand today is that Ismay's quip will be rewritten by a Russian.

You might like this poster,
<https://eabo.abobeats.de/eabo_3/data/162/import/EZ%2045_Seite_01_klein-1.jpg>
in case your old one, above the classic record player, has faded:
<https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-bolschewismus-heisst-die-welt-im-blut-ersufen-171343809.html>

> Still, it is better than the nuclear winter threatened by
> the fear-mongers back when I was a boy.

At least, unlike today's woke imbeciles, you would not consider prancing
around the radio, triumphantly shouting, "fake news! fake news!" when
catching a Russion station on shortwave.
<http://www.intervalsignals.net/Files/rus-z-rm_na_service_1961.m3u>

On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 6:22:51 PM UTC-8, John B. wrote:
>
> I have no idea about current U.S. energy policies,

But you won't hesitate to comment on it as if your did.

On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 12:01:00 AM UTC-8, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 7:51:15 AM UTC-6, AMuzi wrote:
> > On 2/17/2022 7:08 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 6:03:19 AM UTC-5, Sepp Ruf wrote:
> > >> Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > >>> On 2/16/2022 1:19 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > >>>> Here's a rather nice write-up of what europeans thinks of all your trumpian talking points:
> > >>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/28/opinion/europeans-view-americans.html
> > >>> I thought that was quite effective.
> > >> To assure the NYT audience, before the election, that Orange Man Bad?
> > >> By golly, Frank, you'll never learn when to just siliently cringe when
> > >> the clueless Flunkie makes another unforced error, will you?
> > >
> > > Error? ok roofie, tell us what europeans really think of trump and the trump 'doctrine' - links to op-eds from reputable journalistic outlets please. Other than the likes of ErdoÄŸan I doubt you'll find any majority sentiment that varies much from overt revulsion of trump. Of course you blithly turn your head and cough when dr jute grabs your balls demands fealty with his blatent lies from town hall - as pathetic a right wing rag as currently exists in cybersphere (save 'the daily stormer' who support donald trump). Perhaps ask him to explain to you why he willingly followed his governments orders to get vaxxed and extols the virtues of their socialized infrastructure and healthcare systems, while criticizing USAian efforts from the Democratic party to give our people the same benefits he enjoys?
> > >
> > >>
> > >> And while sheepishly nodding your heads, your sleepy brains missed the
> > >> the subtle peak moment of unintended ironies:
> > >> At 03:50 in the woke donkey kindergarden video, the woke African
> > >> Frenchie acting shocked while carelessly playing with the toy gun
> > >> pointed at Hegemann, the woke German fashion stylist. She's a prime
> > >> candidate for a stage-firearms job with Hollywood-Mexico!
> > >> Alternatively, security detail with Turdeau, that will speed things up.
> > >
> > > Now now roofie, you should stop taking English lessons from our resident class buffoon tommy. Not only is that paragraph almost unintelligible, your attempts to use a fictional parody to somehow make some sort of point is completely lost as a result.
> > > Seriously - unhitch your cart from RBTs dumb and dumber mules - these two make The Confederation of Dunces* look like the authors of The Federalist Papers.
> > >
> > > *https://www.americanbazaaronline.com/2020/08/08/confederacy-of-rich-dunces-surrounding-trump-propels-meritocracy-myth-442026/
> > > "MAGAzines available up to 30 rounds for visiting gay bath houses" - Tom Kunich
> > >
> > Why should any USAian give a crap about the opinions of the
> > quislings in Europe?
> >
> > --
> > Andrew Muzi
> > <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> > Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> I think its important to listen and understand everyone's opinion about many different matters. Even the Republicans do have some valid points. An example. In the 1950s and 60s and 70s, the USA blindly supported the Shah of Iran. We did not listen or pay attention to the subjects of Iran. We did not care about their opinion. But the Ayatollah did listen to their opinion. And from about 1979 until today, Iran has been a sore point in the USA. It is very likely we could have easily prevented this.

You point being that the Ayatollah is so much more just and honest with his citizens than the Shah was. Become a suicide bomber and your place in heaven is assured.

On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 3:43:43 AM UTC-8, Rolf Mantel wrote:
> Am 17.02.2022 um 18:46 schrieb AMuzi:
> > On 2/17/2022 11:11 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 8:51:15 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
> >>> On 2/17/2022 7:08 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>>> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 6:03:19 AM UTC-5, Sepp Ruf wrote:
> >>>>> Frank Krygowski wrote:
> >>>>>> On 2/16/2022 1:19 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>> Here's a rather nice write-up of what europeans thinks of all
> >>>>>>> your trumpian talking points:
> >>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/28/opinion/europeans-view-americans.html
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> I thought that was quite effective.
> >>>>> To assure the NYT audience, before the election, that Orange Man Bad?
> >>>>> By golly, Frank, you'll never learn when to just siliently cringe when
> >>>>> the clueless Flunkie makes another unforced error, will you?
> >>>>
> >>>> Error? ok roofie, tell us what europeans really think of trump and
> >>>> the trump 'doctrine' - links to op-eds from reputable journalistic
> >>>> outlets please. Other than the likes of ErdoÄŸan I doubt you'll
> >>>> find any majority sentiment that varies much from overt revulsion of
> >>>> trump. Of course you blithly turn your head and cough when dr jute
> >>>> grabs your balls demands fealty with his blatent lies from town hall
> >>>> - as pathetic a right wing rag as currently exists in cybersphere
> >>>> (save 'the daily stormer' who support donald trump). Perhaps ask him
> >>>> to explain to you why he willingly followed his governments orders
> >>>> to get vaxxed and extols the virtues of their socialized
> >>>> infrastructure and healthcare systems, while criticizing USAian
> >>>> efforts from the Democratic party to give our people the same
> >>>> benefits he enjoys?
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And while sheepishly nodding your heads, your sleepy brains missed the
> >>>>> the subtle peak moment of unintended ironies:
> >>>>> At 03:50 in the woke donkey kindergarden video, the woke African
> >>>>> Frenchie acting shocked while carelessly playing with the toy gun
> >>>>> pointed at Hegemann, the woke German fashion stylist. She's a prime
> >>>>> candidate for a stage-firearms job with Hollywood-Mexico!
> >>>>> Alternatively, security detail with Turdeau, that will speed things
> >>>>> up.
> >>>>
> >>>> Now now roofie, you should stop taking English lessons from our
> >>>> resident class buffoon tommy. Not only is that paragraph almost
> >>>> unintelligible, your attempts to use a fictional parody to somehow
> >>>> make some sort of point is completely lost as a result.
> >>>> Seriously - unhitch your cart from RBTs dumb and dumber mules -
> >>>> these two make The Confederation of Dunces* look like the authors of
> >>>> The Federalist Papers.
> >>>>
> >>>> *https://www.americanbazaaronline.com/2020/08/08/confederacy-of-rich-dunces-surrounding-trump-propels-meritocracy-myth-442026/
> >>>>
> >>>> "MAGAzines available up to 30 rounds for visiting gay bath houses" -
> >>>> Tom Kunich
> >>>>
> >>> Why should any USAian give a crap about the opinions of the
> >>> quislings in Europe?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Dunno Andrew, why don't you ask tommy, he seems to think it's important:
> >> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/M7b2JIDg0Xk/m/UxV8k3V1BgAJ
> >>
> >>> On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 11:46:34 AM UTC-5,
> >>> cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> Do you suppose that the loud mouths here find it embarrassing to see
> >>> what the rest of the world thinks of them?
> >>> Nahh, people like Russell and Flunky pretend that it never happened.
> >>
> >> Whatever... now we know what your opinion of the greater populace of
> >> Europe is anyway. Hint: it's helpful when dealing with people your
> >> trying to establishing trade and security agreements with to _not_
> >> refer to them as 'quislings'. Mutual respect is a much better tack in
> >> those areas.
> >> "MAGAzines available up to 30 rounds for visiting gay bath houses" -
> >> Tom Kunich
> >
> > Call it as you see it but IMHO the Poles and Magyars are very much
> > aligned to US cultural values.
> Are you talking about the cultural value of "bringing as much government
> money into private pockets"? Yes, Mr Orban is nearly as good at this
> game as Mr Trump.
> Are you talking about "No abortions if at all possible"? Yes, Texas and
> Poland are pretty much on one line, while the Netherlands and New
> England are on the opposite end of the scale (my understanding was that
> Wisconsin and Minnesota are somewhere in the middle but nearer to New
> York than to Texas).
> Are you talking about "Let's stack the courts in an unbalanced way"?
> PIS and the Republicains are having similar ideas, but the Republicains
> were lacking the ruthlessness to force existing judges into retirement
> in order to get the chance to re-appoint the positions.

Wouldn't the question be: what is court packing? Judges who follow the law or those who make it up as they go along such as Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg who in her decisions often doesn't quote the US Constitution but laws in foreign countries?

On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 5:02:07 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 9:04:44 PM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
> > >
> > It's a State of NY case from an AG who ran on the promise of
> > a Donald J Trump witch hunt and she's fulfilling her
> > campaign promise, facts be damned. NY already has his
> > purloined tax forms (for anyone else that's felonious) and
> > didn't find much of anything notable beyond employee use of
> > (clutch pearls here) company vehicle. OMG! That's never ever
> > happened anywhere before! pfft.
> >
> > Besides which the real property records, assessments, code
> > violations, inspection records, complaints and taxes are all
> > public record. If there was a there there it would be
> > already known.
> >
> > Anyone familiar with commercial real estate knows it's a
> > running series of artful presentations where the investors,
> > the banks, the tenants and the assessor all are given
> > different 'valuations' at different times. And he's not only
> > a pro, he prospered in that environment.
> >
> > Quote me on this: This nth iteration of 'examining Trump
> > real estate' is going nowhere.
> https://www.forbes.com/sites/chasewithorn/2022/02/16/why-its-no-surprise-trumps-accounting-firm-is-saying-his-financial-statements-are-unreliable/?sh=1efc6ff77e39

Quoting an author who claimed that Trump wasn't a billionaire. Good try.

On 2/17/2022 7:07 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 1:21:35 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> On 2/17/2022 8:51 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>
>>> Why should any USAian give a crap about the opinions of the quislings in
>>> Europe?
>> If we were talking about mere opinions, pulled Kunich-style out of their
>> nether orifices, perhaps you could justify ignoring them. But did you
>> miss the fact that those people were reacting to actual data? Their
>> opinions are reactions to _facts_.
>>
>> And while I recognize that the right wing has no great love of facts,
>> the _facts_ are that in the matters discussed, U.S. policies and their
>> results compare dismally with most of western Europe's policies and
>> results.
>>
>> In my mind, the most blatant examples are the policies regarding health
>> care, guns and income/wealth disparity - although you could certainly
>> add our policies on criminal justice, "defense" spending and many others
>> if you choose.
>>
>> Medical treatment: The U.S. spends far, far more than any other
>> developed country. A far smaller portion of the population gets proper
>> medical care. Medical costs are a major factor in personal bankruptcies.
>> Our infant mortality rates are comparatively dismal. Our life
>> expectancies are not much better. We pay _way_ more and get much worse
>> results. How is that smart?
>>
>> Gun policy: Any whacko can easily get as many guns as he wants that are
>> designed primarily for killing people. Sure, most are not used for that
>> purpose; they're used only for target practice to pretend to kill
>> people, or to keep in a drawer in case some other whacko barges into
>> your house with _his_ gun. But that's still the main reason the U.S.
>> firearm death rate is a dozen times worse than that of Europe.
>>
>> Income/wealth disparity: Anyone with a glimmering of knowledge of
>> history should understand that societies do better if the poor don't
>> have their noses rubbed in the shit of the super-wealthy. Extreme
>> disparities generate crime and occasionally revolution, and in the U.S.
>> that usually involves those guns. When a punk who has to save up to buy
>> a McDonalds meal walks past an iPhone store or high-end jewelry store,
>> serious temptation isn't unlikely. It explains a lot of our crime rate.
>>
>> What we've got, if you think about it, is a huge "natural experiment."
>> We've got different societies with different policies - specifically,
>> the U.S. vs. almost all other developed nations. It's smart to look at
>> the resulting data from this "natural experiment."
>>
>> But that data looks bad for the U.S., at least to anyone who is willing
>> to remove their ideological blinders.
>
> Frank, you should at least attempt to stay on the rails. Yes, medical care is very expensive in the United States. Almost ALL of the medical advances in the world come the US and that is financed by the people who need and use it. A person in the US with your so-called "poor medical care" is generally healthier than people elsewhere save Europe and they are not healthier because of medical care but because of genetic conditioning. 1,000 plagues in a dense population tend to have survival of the fittest and not survival of those with the best medical care.
>
> As for your fear of guns - I wonder why you couldn't look up just how dangerous the US is?
>
> El Salvador (52.02 per 100k people)
> Jamaica (43.85 per 100k people)
> Lesotho (43.56 per 100k people)
> Honduras (38.93 per 100k people)
> Belize (37.79 per 100k people)
> Venezuela (36.69 per 100k people)
> Saint Vincent And the Grenadines (36.54 per 100k people)
> South Africa (36.40 per 100k people)
> Saint Kitts And Nevis (36.09 per 100k people)
> Nigeria (34.52 per 100k people)
> Brazil (30.8),
> Venezuela (49.9),
> Colombia (25)
>
> The US has 17.2 despite having a very large racial difference.

:-) HURRAY! The U.S. beat Belize! We're number 1! We're number 1!

.... um, well, actually we're something like number 40, way behind places
like Croatia, Slovakia, Slovenia.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country

But Tom, believe whatever you must in order to feel better about yourself.

--
- Frank Krygowski

Tom Kunich wrote:

> Our posting friend Russell is the bookkeeper
[or as he prefers, accountant]

Thanks, I mixed up two individuals because I rarely read them.

> While recovering from my concussion and resulting untreated seizures.
> I appeared to several people here to be bragging about my
> accomplishments when rather I was relearning my past and rather
> surprised by it.
Can you, or others around in 1950's America, date this video and recall
the name of the commie-hunting presenter?
<https://t.me/Kulturstudio/22215>

> Elon Musk really hasn't a real education. He has a BS in economics
> and a BA is physics. Rather backwards. His innate intelligence is the
> source of all of his accomplishments and not his education. Rather as
> proof of that, he was accepted at Stanford in a PhD program and
> dropped out after two days to get rich instead. One should probably
> ask - wasn't the point of education to be able to earn a decent
> living? And isn't getting rich proof of education?

Musk was intelligent enough not to risk his young life fighting guerilla
wars for a failing state, educated enough to end his attendence of
university administration feedlots, and he persevered enough to get
rich. Well done, does not matter if I like him or his business models.

This is a (NWO-sort "leftist") German rag criticizing Elon Musk (left
half) for something they themselves all permanently did with Trump
(right half):
<https://twitter.com/LibertyMaxim/status/1494404804013182976>

On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 8:24:02 AM UTC-8, Sepp Ruf wrote:
> Tom Kunich wrote:
>
> > Our posting friend Russell is the bookkeeper
> [or as he prefers, accountant]
>
> Thanks, I mixed up two individuals because I rarely read them.
> > While recovering from my concussion and resulting untreated seizures.
> > I appeared to several people here to be bragging about my
> > accomplishments when rather I was relearning my past and rather
> > surprised by it.
> Can you, or others around in 1950's America, date this video and recall
> the name of the commie-hunting presenter?
> <https://t.me/Kulturstudio/22215>
> > Elon Musk really hasn't a real education. He has a BS in economics
> > and a BA is physics. Rather backwards. His innate intelligence is the
> > source of all of his accomplishments and not his education. Rather as
> > proof of that, he was accepted at Stanford in a PhD program and
> > dropped out after two days to get rich instead. One should probably
> > ask - wasn't the point of education to be able to earn a decent
> > living? And isn't getting rich proof of education?
>
> Musk was intelligent enough not to risk his young life fighting guerilla
> wars for a failing state, educated enough to end his attendence of
> university administration feedlots, and he persevered enough to get
> rich. Well done, does not matter if I like him or his business models.
>
> This is a (NWO-sort "leftist") German rag criticizing Elon Musk (left
> half) for something they themselves all permanently did with Trump
> (right half):
> <https://twitter.com/LibertyMaxim/status/1494404804013182976>

I cannot place that person but that communist handbook was fairly common and was often distributed by union organizers. Union members very seldom read that and instead simply followed the lead of the union head until they realized where it was heading. I what is now called middle school I would see teachers with that communist handbook. Occasionally they would sneak in Marxist quotes from it. If children reported this to their parents, that was usually the end of that teacher. The communists soon learned that by middle school children were too educated to not recognize communist propaganda. So they then started anew with primary schools. This was very strongly opposed by parents and it wasn't until Bush that they managed to take over the educational system.

Elon Musk showed that you don't need an education to become a billionaire - something that drives Frank crazy. He is continually attempting to those with money all got it via inheritance from their money grubbing forbearers who trampled upon the underlings to gain it. His ideology is based entirely on jealousy of those who worked for their money.

On 2/18/2022 2:15 AM, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 3:17:14 PM UTC-6, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 2/17/2022 12:49 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 12:47:01 PM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
>>>> On 2/17/2022 11:11 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now now roofie, you should stop taking English lessons from our resident class buffoon tommy. Not only is that paragraph almost unintelligible, your attempts to use a fictional parody to somehow make some sort of point is completely lost as a result.
>>>>>>> Seriously - unhitch your cart from RBTs dumb and dumber mules - these two make The Confederation of Dunces* look like the authors of The Federalist Papers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *https://www.americanbazaaronline.com/2020/08/08/confederacy-of-rich-dunces-surrounding-trump-propels-meritocracy-myth-442026/
>>>>>>> "MAGAzines available up to 30 rounds for visiting gay bath houses" - Tom Kunich
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why should any USAian give a crap about the opinions of the
>>>>>> quislings in Europe?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dunno Andrew, why don't you ask tommy, he seems to think it's important:
>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/M7b2JIDg0Xk/m/UxV8k3V1BgAJ
>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 11:46:34 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> Do you suppose that the loud mouths here find it embarrassing to see what the rest of the world thinks of them?
>>>>>> Nahh, people like Russell and Flunky pretend that it never happened.
>>>>>
>>>>> Whatever... now we know what your opinion of the greater populace of Europe is anyway. Hint: it's helpful when dealing with people your trying to establishing trade and security agreements with to _not_ refer to them as 'quislings'. Mutual respect is a much better tack in those areas.
>>>>> "MAGAzines available up to 30 rounds for visiting gay bath houses" - Tom Kunich
>>>>>
>>>> Call it as you see it but IMHO the Poles and Magyars are
>>>> very much aligned to US cultural values.
>>>
>>> hmmm....Hungarian Prime Mnister Viktor Orbán said in his 2018 speech at the meeting of the Association of Cities with County Rights, "We must state that we do not want to be diverse and do not want to be mixed: we do not want our own colour, traditions and national culture to be mixed with those of others. We do not want this. We do not want that at all. We do not want to be a diverse country". Is that a value that you think the US already has, or should have?
>>>
>>>> The Lithuanians,
>>>> presently under attack, are getting religion, pronto.
>>>
>>> I haven't seem much of any change at all in Lithuania, culturally or politically. They've been a good ally of the US for decades - since they declared independence from the USSR. They are members in good standing of the EU, the UN, and NATO, and have free national health care. What is this "religion" you speak of?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Not so
>>>> much for Germany who has no principles beyond selling cars
>>>> in china and buying Russian energy to offset their national
>>>> suicide energy policies. Oh, and they're big on selling rope
>>>> to the Persians, unaware of who will be hanged. 'EU policy'
>>>> is whatever the current Chancellor of All The Germans says
>>>> it is.
>>>
>>> Call it as you see it - When their economy collapses and they are taken over by some Islamic State variant, feel free to say 'I told you so'.
>>> "MAGAzines available up to 30 rounds for visiting gay bath houses" - Tom Kunich
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Belarus is importing jihadis on their state airline and
>> dumping them at the Lithuanian border:
>>
>> https://apnews.com/article/europe-immigration-migration-belarus-lithuania-342b8c966e57c41f3ebf0bbd8b3d232e
>>
>> Lithuania is a small and not rich country.
>>
>> Hungary has a double-row tall razor wire complete border
>> barrier which has been very effective and enthusiastically
>> supported by the voters.
>> --
>> Andrew Muzi
>> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>
> Enthusiastically supported by the voters?
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Orb%C3%A1n
> "Because of Orbán's curtailing of press freedom, erosion of judicial independence and undermining of multiparty democracy, many political scientists and watchdogs consider Hungary to have experienced democratic backsliding during Orbán's tenure. Orbán's attacks on the European Union while accepting its money and funneling it to his allies and family have also led to characterizations of his government as a kleptocracy."
>
> East Germany, the USSR, put a wall around West Berlin.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Wall
> "The Wall cut off West Berlin from surrounding East Germany, including East Berlin.......The Eastern Bloc portrayed the Wall as protecting its population from fascist elements conspiring to prevent the "will of the people" from building a socialist state in East Germany."
>

Here are the results for his 3d term:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/895670/hungary-election-share/

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<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 2/18/2022 4:25 AM, John B. wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 00:00:55 -0800 (PST), "russellseaton1@yahoo.com"
> <ritzannaseaton@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 7:51:15 AM UTC-6, AMuzi wrote:
>>> On 2/17/2022 7:08 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 6:03:19 AM UTC-5, Sepp Ruf wrote:
>>>>> Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/16/2022 1:19 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> Here's a rather nice write-up of what europeans thinks of all your trumpian talking points:
>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/28/opinion/europeans-view-americans.html
>>>>>> I thought that was quite effective.
>>>>> To assure the NYT audience, before the election, that Orange Man Bad?
>>>>> By golly, Frank, you'll never learn when to just siliently cringe when
>>>>> the clueless Flunkie makes another unforced error, will you?
>>>>
>>>> Error? ok roofie, tell us what europeans really think of trump and the trump 'doctrine' - links to op-eds from reputable journalistic outlets please. Other than the likes of ErdoÄŸan I doubt you'll find any majority sentiment that varies much from overt revulsion of trump. Of course you blithly turn your head and cough when dr jute grabs your balls demands fealty with his blatent lies from town hall - as pathetic a right wing rag as currently exists in cybersphere (save 'the daily stormer' who support donald trump). Perhaps ask him to explain to you why he willingly followed his governments orders to get vaxxed and extols the virtues of their socialized infrastructure and healthcare systems, while criticizing USAian efforts from the Democratic party to give our people the same benefits he enjoys?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And while sheepishly nodding your heads, your sleepy brains missed the
>>>>> the subtle peak moment of unintended ironies:
>>>>> At 03:50 in the woke donkey kindergarden video, the woke African
>>>>> Frenchie acting shocked while carelessly playing with the toy gun
>>>>> pointed at Hegemann, the woke German fashion stylist. She's a prime
>>>>> candidate for a stage-firearms job with Hollywood-Mexico!
>>>>> Alternatively, security detail with Turdeau, that will speed things up.
>>>>
>>>> Now now roofie, you should stop taking English lessons from our resident class buffoon tommy. Not only is that paragraph almost unintelligible, your attempts to use a fictional parody to somehow make some sort of point is completely lost as a result.
>>>> Seriously - unhitch your cart from RBTs dumb and dumber mules - these two make The Confederation of Dunces* look like the authors of The Federalist Papers.
>>>>
>>>> *https://www.americanbazaaronline.com/2020/08/08/confederacy-of-rich-dunces-surrounding-trump-propels-meritocracy-myth-442026/
>>>> "MAGAzines available up to 30 rounds for visiting gay bath houses" - Tom Kunich
>>>>
>>> Why should any USAian give a crap about the opinions of the
>>> quislings in Europe?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Andrew Muzi
>>> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
>>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>>
>> I think its important to listen and understand everyone's opinion about many different matters. Even the Republicans do have some valid points. An example. In the 1950s and 60s and 70s, the USA blindly supported the Shah of Iran. We did not listen or pay attention to the subjects of Iran. We did not care about their opinion. But the Ayatollah did listen to their opinion. And from about 1979 until today, Iran has been a sore point in the USA. It is very likely we could have easily prevented this.
>
> If you read post WW II history the U.S. has, I believe without fail,
> supported regimes that were friendly to the U.S.... which, in essence,
> makes sense.
>
> But on the other hand they seem to underwrite leaders who have an
> affinity for upsetting the population, or perhaps more accurately, the
> "Big Guys". In Korea, the U.S. installed, or accepted Syngman Rhee who
> was so corrupt that the CIA, it is said, had to flew him out to exile
> in Hawaii or he would have been assassinated. In Viet Nam the U.S.
> supported the Ngô Ðình Diem tribe who were fanatical Christians in a
> largely non-Christian country, and who were ultimately assassinated.
> Then, of course the Iran thing where the U.S. were active in the
> overthrow of a dully elected Prime Minister, Mohammed Mossadeq. Then
> Iraq where admittedly I don't keep track of but the last I read there
> was still the "green zone" where it is safe for foreigners to stay.
> Then, of course, there is the Afghanistan thing... history tells us
> that no foreign country has ever conquered Afghanistan. The British
> did control the capital after the 2nd Afghan war but they never
> controlled the countryside.
>
> I find it peculiar that a country that is so advanced makes so many
> bad judgments.
>

You left out Pakistan and Turkey.

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<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 2/18/2022 10:23 AM, Sepp Ruf wrote:
> Tom Kunich wrote:
>
>> Our posting friend Russell is the bookkeeper
> [or as he prefers, accountant]
>
> Thanks, I mixed up two individuals because I rarely read them.
>
>> While recovering from my concussion and resulting
>> untreated seizures.
>> I appeared to several people here to be bragging about my
>> accomplishments when rather I was relearning my past and
>> rather
>> surprised by it.
> Can you, or others around in 1950's America, date this video
> and recall the name of the commie-hunting presenter?
> <https://t.me/Kulturstudio/22215>
>
>> Elon Musk really hasn't a real education. He has a BS in
>> economics
>> and a BA is physics. Rather backwards. His innate
>> intelligence is the
>> source of all of his accomplishments and not his
>> education. Rather as
>> proof of that, he was accepted at Stanford in a PhD
>> program and
>> dropped out after two days to get rich instead. One should
>> probably
>> ask - wasn't the point of education to be able to earn a
>> decent
>> living? And isn't getting rich proof of education?
>
> Musk was intelligent enough not to risk his young life
> fighting guerilla wars for a failing state, educated enough
> to end his attendence of university administration feedlots,
> and he persevered enough to get rich. Well done, does not
> matter if I like him or his business models.
>
> This is a (NWO-sort "leftist") German rag criticizing Elon
> Musk (left half) for something they themselves all
> permanently did with Trump (right half):
> <https://twitter.com/LibertyMaxim/status/1494404804013182976>

I do not recognize the gentleman in that B/W video. He makes
an excellent point and that technique continues, even by Mr
Trudeau this week, hurled at an MP daughter of Shoah survivors.

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<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 3:54:08 PM UTC, Sepp Ruf wrote:
> Andre Jute wrote:
> > On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 8:16:27 PM UTC, Sepp Ruf wrote:
> >>
> >> Funkmariechen
> >>
> > The little non-kulturny twerp will never
> > get the pun in a foreign language. Don't translate for him; let him
> > worry about it.
> Oh, the search engines are awfully fault-tolerant, but it won't help
> her. Long time since I came across some caricature of a
> chauvinist-bolshie minded junior-high bully who deemed himself a better
> American than Freisler ever was.
>
The net has accustomed me to our social inferiors trying to fatten up a non-existent profile by assaulting their betters for no reason at all.
>
> >> "What is the sense of NATO? It is to keep the Americans in, the
> >> Russians out, and the Germans down." - Lord Hastings Lionel Ismay
> >>
> > Yes, and a very good idea it was too, when people remembered that the
> > vindictive Peace of Versailles just about guaranteed another world
> > war. But now the Germans have become so rich and powerful, they don't
> > need tanks when they own the EU.
>>
> That's gone, the valuables are now in the pockets of BlackRock, Arab
> oil, or the Xi-CP.
>
Watch me weep. They did it to themselves.
>
>Sitting in the EU's Atlantic tax haven,
>
I didn't come Ireland for the tax advantages they give artists. The South Africans sent assassins after me for a couple of my books. In each case the assassins met with an accident, the second pair terminally. In both cases I was warned by a fellow who'd been at one of my colleges that if I was still in the country when the police car with a deportation warrant, I'd be sent back to South Africa. After the second occasion, I flew to London where my agent and my publisher and my lawyer were trying to persuade the Home Office to let me stay, and that evening dropped in at a party given by another writer, where I ran into Charlie Haughey, Prime Minister of Ireland, who'd just had his car shot up in a tunnel in Brussels and so was very sympathetic, and told me I could come stay in his country, and he knew of a West Cork town with an excellent school for my child where I could stay among the houses of a whole bunch of policemen. Oh, and a distinguished writer wouldn't have to pay taxes. I left the party, flew myself back to the Continent where we were hiding out in a film producer's holiday house, told my wife, "Put the baby and your jewels and the latest draft of my novel in progress in the car. Leave everything else behind. We need to make the Cherbourg ferry at five to midnight. We're going to live in Ireland."
>
> painting,
> enjoying drinks, reading your favorite London publishers, you might have
> missed the implications of eurosystem's Target-2 mechanism.
>
No, I didn't miss it. I read about it, probably in the New Statesman in its initial stages, several years ago, and saw the consequences immediately (I was very well trained as a psychiatrist and, when I didn't like that, as an economist). That sort of irrational self-flagellation just raises the blood pressure, so I've given it a miss since.
>
> Basically,
> the eurozone's South buying Northern goods on credit never designed to
> be paid back. Draghi, Lagarde and their German quislings have
> increasingly wounded the utility of pesty cash currency in order to
> minimize resistance to the rollout of the digital-ID based global
> digital dictatorship.
>
Succinct and no doubt true. My cardiologist thanks you for me not having to work it out for myself.
>
>Which, of course, is only a conspiracy theory,
> just as strangely deficient public personalities are ... who regularly
> turn out to be WEF young global leaders:
> <https://twitter.com/JoyCannabis/status/1493426769176633349>
>
> > The logical progression from where [we]
> > stand today is that Ismay's quip will be rewritten by a Russian.
> You might like this poster,
> <https://eabo.abobeats.de/eabo_3/data/162/import/EZ%2045_Seite_01_klein-1..jpg>
> in case your old one, above the classic record player, has faded:
>
Nah, I'm not one of the Scratchy Needle Brigade. I use a pair of QUAD CD players which Mr Walker made me a gift of many years ago. (They weren't new, they had seen several years of service with the BBC.)
>
> <https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-bolschewismus-heisst-die-welt-im-blut-ersufen-171343809.html>
> > Still, it is better than the nuclear winter threatened by
> > the fear-mongers back when I was a boy.
>
> At least, unlike today's woke imbeciles, you would not consider prancing
> around the radio, triumphantly shouting, "fake news! fake news!" when
> catching a Russion station on shortwave.
> <http://www.intervalsignals.net/Files/rus-z-rm_na_service_1961.m3u>
>
Heh-Heh! t might interest you that in Brezhnev's Little Perestroika of the 1960s I coined the joke that achieved such wide currency in the 90s that it came to sum up Perestroika.
Question: What comes after perestroika? (liberation)
Answer: Perestroika. (shootings)
>
Andre Jute
Charisma is the art of infuriating losers irrationally merely by lounging elegantly.
>

On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 10:36:01 PM UTC, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 3:54:08 PM UTC, Sepp Ruf wrote:
> > Andre Jute wrote:
> > > On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 8:16:27 PM UTC, Sepp Ruf wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Funkmariechen
> > >>
> > > The little non-kulturny twerp will never
> > > get the pun in a foreign language. Don't translate for him; let him
> > > worry about it.
> > Oh, the search engines are awfully fault-tolerant, but it won't help
> > her. Long time since I came across some caricature of a
> > chauvinist-bolshie minded junior-high bully who deemed himself a better
> > American than Freisler ever was.
> >
> The net has accustomed me to our social inferiors trying to fatten up a non-existent profile by assaulting their betters for no reason at all.
> >
> > >> "What is the sense of NATO? It is to keep the Americans in, the
> > >> Russians out, and the Germans down." - Lord Hastings Lionel Ismay
> > >>
> > > Yes, and a very good idea it was too, when people remembered that the
> > > vindictive Peace of Versailles just about guaranteed another world
> > > war. But now the Germans have become so rich and powerful, they don't
> > > need tanks when they own the EU.
> >>
> > That's gone, the valuables are now in the pockets of BlackRock, Arab
> > oil, or the Xi-CP.
> >
> Watch me weep. They did it to themselves.
> >
> >Sitting in the EU's Atlantic tax haven,
> >
> I didn't come Ireland for the tax advantages they give artists. The South Africans sent assassins after me for a couple of my books. In each case the assassins met with an accident, the second pair terminally. In both cases I was warned by a fellow who'd been at one of my colleges that if I was still in the country when the police car with a deportation warrant, I'd be sent back to South Africa. After the second occasion, I flew to London where my agent and my publisher and my lawyer were trying to persuade the Home Office to let me stay, and that evening dropped in at a party given by another writer, where I ran into Charlie Haughey, Prime Minister of Ireland, who'd just had his car shot up in a tunnel in Brussels and so was very sympathetic, and told me I could come stay in his country, and he knew of a West Cork town with an excellent school for my child where I could stay among the houses of a whole bunch of policemen. Oh, and a distinguished writer wouldn't have to pay taxes. I left the party, flew myself back to the Continent where we were hiding out in a film producer's holiday house, told my wife, "Put the baby and your jewels and the latest draft of my novel in progress in the car. Leave everything else behind. We need to make the Cherbourg ferry at five to midnight. We're going to live in Ireland."
> >
> > painting,
> > enjoying drinks, reading your favorite London publishers, you might have
> > missed the implications of eurosystem's Target-2 mechanism.
> >
> No, I didn't miss it. I read about it, probably in the New Statesman in its initial stages, several years ago, and saw the consequences immediately (I was very well trained as a psychiatrist and, when I didn't like that, as an economist). That sort of irrational self-flagellation just raises the blood pressure, so I've given it a miss since.
> >
> > Basically,
> > the eurozone's South buying Northern goods on credit never designed to
> > be paid back. Draghi, Lagarde and their German quislings have
> > increasingly wounded the utility of pesty cash currency in order to
> > minimize resistance to the rollout of the digital-ID based global
> > digital dictatorship.
> >
> Succinct and no doubt true. My cardiologist thanks you for me not having to work it out for myself.
> >
> >Which, of course, is only a conspiracy theory,
> > just as strangely deficient public personalities are ... who regularly
> > turn out to be WEF young global leaders:
> > <https://twitter.com/JoyCannabis/status/1493426769176633349>
> >
> > > The logical progression from where [we]
> > > stand today is that Ismay's quip will be rewritten by a Russian.
> > You might like this poster,
> > <https://eabo.abobeats.de/eabo_3/data/162/import/EZ%2045_Seite_01_klein-1.jpg>
> > in case your old one, above the classic record player, has faded:
> >
> Nah, I'm not one of the Scratchy Needle Brigade. I use a pair of QUAD CD players which Mr Walker made me a gift of many years ago. (They weren't new, they had seen several years of service with the BBC.)
> >
> > <https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-bolschewismus-heisst-die-welt-im-blut-ersufen-171343809.html>
> > > Still, it is better than the nuclear winter threatened by
> > > the fear-mongers back when I was a boy.
> >
> > At least, unlike today's woke imbeciles, you would not consider prancing
> > around the radio, triumphantly shouting, "fake news! fake news!" when
> > catching a Russion station on shortwave.
> > <http://www.intervalsignals.net/Files/rus-z-rm_na_service_1961.m3u>
> >
> Heh-Heh! t might interest you that in Brezhnev's Little Perestroika of the 1960s I coined the joke that achieved such wide currency in the 90s that it came to sum up Perestroika.
> Question: What comes after perestroika? (liberation)
> Answer: Perestroika. (shootings)
> >
> Andre Jute
> Charisma is the art of infuriating losers irrationally merely by lounging elegantly.
> >
Screwed by the computer's auto-correction.
>
This:
> Question: What comes after perestroika? (liberation)
> Answer: Perestroika. (shootings)
should read:
> Question: What comes after perestroika? (liberation)
> Answer: Perestrelka. (shootings)
>
Sorry.
>
AJ
>

On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 10:00:00 AM UTC-6, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 12:01:00 AM UTC-8, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 7:51:15 AM UTC-6, AMuzi wrote:
> > > On 2/17/2022 7:08 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 6:03:19 AM UTC-5, Sepp Ruf wrote:
> > > >> Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > > >>> On 2/16/2022 1:19 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > >>>> Here's a rather nice write-up of what europeans thinks of all your trumpian talking points:
> > > >>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/28/opinion/europeans-view-americans.html
> > > >>> I thought that was quite effective.
> > > >> To assure the NYT audience, before the election, that Orange Man Bad?
> > > >> By golly, Frank, you'll never learn when to just siliently cringe when
> > > >> the clueless Flunkie makes another unforced error, will you?
> > > >
> > > > Error? ok roofie, tell us what europeans really think of trump and the trump 'doctrine' - links to op-eds from reputable journalistic outlets please. Other than the likes of ErdoÄŸan I doubt you'll find any majority sentiment that varies much from overt revulsion of trump. Of course you blithly turn your head and cough when dr jute grabs your balls demands fealty with his blatent lies from town hall - as pathetic a right wing rag as currently exists in cybersphere (save 'the daily stormer' who support donald trump). Perhaps ask him to explain to you why he willingly followed his governments orders to get vaxxed and extols the virtues of their socialized infrastructure and healthcare systems, while criticizing USAian efforts from the Democratic party to give our people the same benefits he enjoys?
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> And while sheepishly nodding your heads, your sleepy brains missed the
> > > >> the subtle peak moment of unintended ironies:
> > > >> At 03:50 in the woke donkey kindergarden video, the woke African
> > > >> Frenchie acting shocked while carelessly playing with the toy gun
> > > >> pointed at Hegemann, the woke German fashion stylist. She's a prime
> > > >> candidate for a stage-firearms job with Hollywood-Mexico!
> > > >> Alternatively, security detail with Turdeau, that will speed things up.
> > > >
> > > > Now now roofie, you should stop taking English lessons from our resident class buffoon tommy. Not only is that paragraph almost unintelligible, your attempts to use a fictional parody to somehow make some sort of point is completely lost as a result.
> > > > Seriously - unhitch your cart from RBTs dumb and dumber mules - these two make The Confederation of Dunces* look like the authors of The Federalist Papers.
> > > >
> > > > *https://www.americanbazaaronline.com/2020/08/08/confederacy-of-rich-dunces-surrounding-trump-propels-meritocracy-myth-442026/
> > > > "MAGAzines available up to 30 rounds for visiting gay bath houses" - Tom Kunich
> > > >
> > > Why should any USAian give a crap about the opinions of the
> > > quislings in Europe?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Andrew Muzi
> > > <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> > > Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> > I think its important to listen and understand everyone's opinion about many different matters. Even the Republicans do have some valid points. An example. In the 1950s and 60s and 70s, the USA blindly supported the Shah of Iran. We did not listen or pay attention to the subjects of Iran. We did not care about their opinion. But the Ayatollah did listen to their opinion. And from about 1979 until today, Iran has been a sore point in the USA. It is very likely we could have easily prevented this.
> You point being that the Ayatollah is so much more just and honest with his citizens than the Shah was. Become a suicide bomber and your place in heaven is assured.

No Tommy. My point is the USA did not listen or pay attention to the Shah and his dealings in Iran. If they had during the 50s and 60s, they could have and should have and would have picked out one of the Shahs opponents, a more moderate non religious zealot, and supported him and advanced his cause. And not supported the Shah blindly. And the outcomes in Iran would have been changed. The Ayatollah would never have ascended to his heights in the 1970s if someone else got there first in the 60s.

A very similar thing happened after WW1 and WW2. The Allies punished Germany after WW1 with reparations and other punishment. Resentment grew during the 1920s in Germany. And Hitler and the Nazis came to power in the early 1930s. And less than ten years later we had WW2. But the USA and other allies learned from the mistakes made after WW1 and did not repeat them after WW2. Germany went on to become the biggest economy in Europe and a very free and fair democracy. And on the other side of the world, Japan was not punished after the war. It was controlled and limited. Limits on its military strength and lengthy occupation by the USA. But it has since become one of the largest economies in the world and I believe its fairly democratic and free.

On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 10:55:05 AM UTC-6, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 8:24:02 AM UTC-8, Sepp Ruf wrote:
> > Tom Kunich wrote:
> >
> > > Our posting friend Russell is the bookkeeper
> > [or as he prefers, accountant]
> >
> > Thanks, I mixed up two individuals because I rarely read them.
> > > While recovering from my concussion and resulting untreated seizures.
> > > I appeared to several people here to be bragging about my
> > > accomplishments when rather I was relearning my past and rather
> > > surprised by it.
> > Can you, or others around in 1950's America, date this video and recall
> > the name of the commie-hunting presenter?
> > <https://t.me/Kulturstudio/22215>
> > > Elon Musk really hasn't a real education. He has a BS in economics
> > > and a BA is physics. Rather backwards. His innate intelligence is the
> > > source of all of his accomplishments and not his education. Rather as
> > > proof of that, he was accepted at Stanford in a PhD program and
> > > dropped out after two days to get rich instead. One should probably
> > > ask - wasn't the point of education to be able to earn a decent
> > > living? And isn't getting rich proof of education?
> >
> > Musk was intelligent enough not to risk his young life fighting guerilla
> > wars for a failing state, educated enough to end his attendence of
> > university administration feedlots, and he persevered enough to get
> > rich. Well done, does not matter if I like him or his business models.
> >
> > This is a (NWO-sort "leftist") German rag criticizing Elon Musk (left
> > half) for something they themselves all permanently did with Trump
> > (right half):
> > <https://twitter.com/LibertyMaxim/status/1494404804013182976>
> I cannot place that person but that communist handbook was fairly common and was often distributed by union organizers. Union members very seldom read that and instead simply followed the lead of the union head until they realized where it was heading. I what is now called middle school I would see teachers with that communist handbook. Occasionally they would sneak in Marxist quotes from it. If children reported this to their parents, that was usually the end of that teacher. The communists soon learned that by middle school children were too educated to not recognize communist propaganda. So they then started anew with primary schools. This was very strongly opposed by parents and it wasn't until Bush that they managed to take over the educational system.
>
> Elon Musk showed that you don't need an education to become a billionaire - something that drives Frank crazy. He is continually attempting to those with money all got it via inheritance from their money grubbing forbearers who trampled upon the underlings to gain it. His ideology is based entirely on jealousy of those who worked for their money.

But doesn't Elon Musk have a bachelor's degree in economics and physics? Isn't that an education? I am sure you said that yourself previously in this post. Or are you thinking of Bill Gates who does not have a college degree? An officially earned degree. I am sure he has many complimentary degrees for donations.

On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 12:52:52 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 2/18/2022 4:25 AM, John B. wrote:
>> On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 00:00:55 -0800 (PST), "russellseaton1@yahoo.com"
>> <ritzannaseaton@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 7:51:15 AM UTC-6, AMuzi wrote:
>>>> On 2/17/2022 7:08 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 6:03:19 AM UTC-5, Sepp Ruf wrote:
>>>>>> Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2/16/2022 1:19 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> Here's a rather nice write-up of what europeans thinks of all your trumpian talking points:
>>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/28/opinion/europeans-view-americans.html
>>>>>>> I thought that was quite effective.
>>>>>> To assure the NYT audience, before the election, that Orange Man Bad?
>>>>>> By golly, Frank, you'll never learn when to just siliently cringe when
>>>>>> the clueless Flunkie makes another unforced error, will you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Error? ok roofie, tell us what europeans really think of trump and the trump 'doctrine' - links to op-eds from reputable journalistic outlets please. Other than the likes of Erdoğan I doubt you'll find any majority sentiment that varies much from overt revulsion of trump. Of course you blithly turn your head and cough when dr jute grabs your balls demands fealty with his blatent lies from town hall - as pathetic a right wing rag as currently exists in cybersphere (save 'the daily stormer' who support donald trump). Perhaps ask him to explain to you why he willingly followed his governments orders to get vaxxed and extols the virtues of their socialized infrastructure and healthcare systems, while criticizing USAian efforts from the Democratic party to give our people the same benefits he enjoys?
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And while sheepishly nodding your heads, your sleepy brains missed the
>>>>>> the subtle peak moment of unintended ironies:
>>>>>> At 03:50 in the woke donkey kindergarden video, the woke African
>>>>>> Frenchie acting shocked while carelessly playing with the toy gun
>>>>>> pointed at Hegemann, the woke German fashion stylist. She's a prime
>>>>>> candidate for a stage-firearms job with Hollywood-Mexico!
>>>>>> Alternatively, security detail with Turdeau, that will speed things up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now now roofie, you should stop taking English lessons from our resident class buffoon tommy. Not only is that paragraph almost unintelligible, your attempts to use a fictional parody to somehow make some sort of point is completely lost as a result.
>>>>> Seriously - unhitch your cart from RBTs dumb and dumber mules - these two make The Confederation of Dunces* look like the authors of The Federalist Papers.
>>>>>
>>>>> *https://www.americanbazaaronline.com/2020/08/08/confederacy-of-rich-dunces-surrounding-trump-propels-meritocracy-myth-442026/
>>>>> "MAGAzines available up to 30 rounds for visiting gay bath houses" - Tom Kunich
>>>>>
>>>> Why should any USAian give a crap about the opinions of the
>>>> quislings in Europe?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Andrew Muzi
>>>> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
>>>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>>>
>>> I think its important to listen and understand everyone's opinion about many different matters. Even the Republicans do have some valid points. An example. In the 1950s and 60s and 70s, the USA blindly supported the Shah of Iran. We did not listen or pay attention to the subjects of Iran. We did not care about their opinion. But the Ayatollah did listen to their opinion. And from about 1979 until today, Iran has been a sore point in the USA. It is very likely we could have easily prevented this.
>>
>> If you read post WW II history the U.S. has, I believe without fail,
>> supported regimes that were friendly to the U.S.... which, in essence,
>> makes sense.
>>
>> But on the other hand they seem to underwrite leaders who have an
>> affinity for upsetting the population, or perhaps more accurately, the
>> "Big Guys". In Korea, the U.S. installed, or accepted Syngman Rhee who
>> was so corrupt that the CIA, it is said, had to flew him out to exile
>> in Hawaii or he would have been assassinated. In Viet Nam the U.S.
>> supported the Ngô Ðình Diem tribe who were fanatical Christians in a
>> largely non-Christian country, and who were ultimately assassinated.
>> Then, of course the Iran thing where the U.S. were active in the
>> overthrow of a dully elected Prime Minister, Mohammed Mossadeq. Then
>> Iraq where admittedly I don't keep track of but the last I read there
>> was still the "green zone" where it is safe for foreigners to stay.
>> Then, of course, there is the Afghanistan thing... history tells us
>> that no foreign country has ever conquered Afghanistan. The British
>> did control the capital after the 2nd Afghan war but they never
>> controlled the countryside.
>>
>> I find it peculiar that a country that is so advanced makes so many
>> bad judgments.
>>
>
>You left out Pakistan and Turkey.

Well, yes. But the narration was getting out of hand so I sort of
abbreviated it (:-)
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Cheers,

John B.