On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 7:34:30 PM UTC+1, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 5/27/2022 1:33 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
> > On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 5:30:22 PM UTC+1, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> >> On 5/27/2022 12:05 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> >>> On 5/27/2022 9:14 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>>> On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 6:51:59 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> >>>>> On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 2:47:07 PM UTC+1, sms wrote:
> >>>>>> On 5/26/2022 6:27 PM, pH wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 2022-05-26, Andre Jute <fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> I love it when conservatives catch up to what I've been saying for
> >>>>>>>> decades, that the religious weather fetish of left wing kills
> >>>>>>>> millions of
> >>>>>>>> defenseless people every year. Here's Kurt Schlichter with an update
> >>>>>>>> about a new tranche of forthcoming murders by the Donkey Party:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Leftists Are About to Kill Millions of People Right Before Our Eyes
> >>>>>>>> https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2022/05/26/leftists-are-about-to-kill-millions-of-people-right-before-our-eyes-n2607820
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> That scum have killed hundreds of millions of women and children
> >>>>>>>> already
> >>>>>>>> by banning DDT for zero reason except to flex their muscles (which
> >>>>>>>> they
> >>>>>>>> admitted). They knew it didn't cause cancer in humans.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Andre Jute
> >>>>>>>> This isn't mere carelessness, this is another pre-planned racist
> >>>>>>>> genocide.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Well, this certainly piqued my curiousity....but got a '404' error
> >>>>>>> on the
> >>>>>>> link, though.
> >>>>>> Try
> >>>>>> <https://newrepublic.com/article/166069/ddt-ban-rachel-carson-silent-spring>.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Andre can educate himself at that site as well.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks, Scharfie, but after I finished educating myself about the DDT
> >>>>> murders, you'll remember that I was the one that named Rachel Carson
> >>>>> the Patron Saint of Genocides for here vicious lies. -- AJ
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> The link I gave works. I give it again:
> >>>>> https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2022/05/26/leftists-are-about-to-kill-millions-of-people-right-before-our-eyes-n2607820
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> DDT is so poisonous to man that it is contained in RAID spray bottles
> >>>> to be used inside houses to be used on flies and other flying insects
> >>>> and also for killing ants. It is perfectly harmless to the mammals etc.
> >>>>
> >>>> Now there is something to be said about wholescale spraying of DDT
> >>>> which WAS being used to spray on wetlands to abate mosquitos etc.
> >>>> instead of building human habitations away from those areas but use on
> >>>> farmlands was fair usage and the laws again use of it killed people
> >>>> through higher food costs and insect borne diseases.
> >>>>
> >>>> I believe that at this point we can now refer to Scharf as "Beto" -
> >>>> nothing but a cheap politician attempting to find a crusade to join
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> DDT is not in home-use pesticides. Would that it were...
> >>
> >> Why? We're certainly not having excessive problems with insects here.
> >>
> >> --
> >> - Frank Krygowski
> >>
> > No, you smug, vicious moron, but in the rest of the world, especially those parts of where world bodies under pressure from the Americans won't give any financial support in countries where DDT is used, the choice is between starvation and misery, and mostly just between starvation and starvation because they don't have the money without the aid to buy the necessary DDT. There are many things that make you hateful, Franki-boy, but your indifference to suffering, as long as it suffering of others, is surely one of the most obnoxious traits of Frank Krygowski.
> >>
> > I'm Andre Jute and I approve of this message.
> >>
> More offensiveness in an attempt to gather interest.
>
> We've seen so much of this. [yawn] It's still boring.
>
> --
> - Frank Krygowski
>
I feel sorry for you, Franki-boy, but you're probably right: you're not qualified to argue cases with me, and you don't have moral interest anyway, so you're probably right to stick to vapid generalities.
>
I'm Andre Jute and I approve this message.

On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 2:24:37 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 9:41:36 PM UTC+1, pH wrote:
> > On 2022-05-27, Andre Jute <fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 2:27:54 AM UTC+1, pH wrote:
> > >> On 2022-05-26, Andre Jute <fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> > I love it when conservatives catch up to what I've been saying for
> > >> > decades, that the religious weather fetish of left wing kills millions of
> > >> > defenseless people every year. Here's Kurt Schlichter with an update
> > >> > about a new tranche of forthcoming murders by the Donkey Party:
> > >> >
> > >> > Leftists Are About to Kill Millions of People Right Before Our Eyes
> > >> > https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2022/05/26/leftists-are-about-to-kill-millions-of-people-right-before-our-eyes-n2607820
> > >> >
> > >> > That scum have killed hundreds of millions of women and children already
> > >> > by banning DDT for zero reason except to flex their muscles (which they
> > >> > admitted). They knew it didn't cause cancer in humans.
> > >> >
> > >> > Andre Jute
> > >> > This isn't mere carelessness, this is another pre-planned racist genocide.
> > >>> Well, this certainly piqued my curiousity....but got a '404' error on the
> > >> link, though.
> > >>
> > >> pH
> > >>
> > > Just checked the link. It works.
> > > https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2022/05/26/leftists-are-about-to-kill-millions-of-people-right-before-our-eyes-n2607820
> > > -- AJ
> > Thank-you for the resend....I tried again w/ the same result.
> > Perhaps I'm being "protected" from reading scary things that might make me
> > need my smelling salts..
> > I did get a a page titled "Townhall", though....I'll do some poking around
> > there.
> >
> > Thanks! pH
> >
> If you can get Townhall, you're probably only two pages away. Go to the columnists and click on a column, any column, by Kurt Schlichter, and then on the page of the column click on his name, which will take you to a list of his recent articles where you can scroll down until you reach: Leftists Are About to Kill Millions of People Right Before Our Eyes. I'm embarrassed about giving a link with such spotty coverage, and an opening for that ward heeler Scharfie to slip in another link of lies, and can only think this is Google protecting you against the truth, again. -- AJ

Scharf is willing to promote any and every piece of garbage and pretend that he is some sort of expert in it. There was NO PROBLEMS with DDT and the outlawing of it which mindless twits like the Congress cause mass starvation in the third world. And Scharfie thinks that wonderful.

I finally used up my last bottle of RAID with DDT in it and bought a new one expecting the some ingredients. Andrew soon corrected me on that so I looked up the ingredients and it is a poison so powerrful that the entire contents of the large can is only 0.2% and the remaining 99.8% is carrier and ingredients to prevent degredation of the poison. One of the first things it says is "Keep out of reach of Children". And then tells you to take your childen to a hospital if they are exposed to it. This is what Scharf believes to be superior to the absolute lie about DDT spread by a person without ANY training in chemistry.

The absolute filth of the left simply cannot cleaned. Anything that they think they can gain the slightest power with no matter how large the lie, they will try. It has become an entire party devoted to the policies of Joseph Goebbels.

On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 2:29:50 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 7:34:30 PM UTC+1, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > On 5/27/2022 1:33 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
> > > On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 5:30:22 PM UTC+1, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > >> On 5/27/2022 12:05 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> > >>> On 5/27/2022 9:14 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > >>>> On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 6:51:59 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> > >>>>> On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 2:47:07 PM UTC+1, sms wrote:
> > >>>>>> On 5/26/2022 6:27 PM, pH wrote:
> > >>>>>>> On 2022-05-26, Andre Jute <fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> I love it when conservatives catch up to what I've been saying for
> > >>>>>>>> decades, that the religious weather fetish of left wing kills
> > >>>>>>>> millions of
> > >>>>>>>> defenseless people every year. Here's Kurt Schlichter with an update
> > >>>>>>>> about a new tranche of forthcoming murders by the Donkey Party:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Leftists Are About to Kill Millions of People Right Before Our Eyes
> > >>>>>>>> https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2022/05/26/leftists-are-about-to-kill-millions-of-people-right-before-our-eyes-n2607820
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> That scum have killed hundreds of millions of women and children
> > >>>>>>>> already
> > >>>>>>>> by banning DDT for zero reason except to flex their muscles (which
> > >>>>>>>> they
> > >>>>>>>> admitted). They knew it didn't cause cancer in humans.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Andre Jute
> > >>>>>>>> This isn't mere carelessness, this is another pre-planned racist
> > >>>>>>>> genocide.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Well, this certainly piqued my curiousity....but got a '404' error
> > >>>>>>> on the
> > >>>>>>> link, though.
> > >>>>>> Try
> > >>>>>> <https://newrepublic.com/article/166069/ddt-ban-rachel-carson-silent-spring>.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Andre can educate himself at that site as well.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks, Scharfie, but after I finished educating myself about the DDT
> > >>>>> murders, you'll remember that I was the one that named Rachel Carson
> > >>>>> the Patron Saint of Genocides for here vicious lies. -- AJ
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> The link I gave works. I give it again:
> > >>>>> https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2022/05/26/leftists-are-about-to-kill-millions-of-people-right-before-our-eyes-n2607820
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> DDT is so poisonous to man that it is contained in RAID spray bottles
> > >>>> to be used inside houses to be used on flies and other flying insects
> > >>>> and also for killing ants. It is perfectly harmless to the mammals etc.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Now there is something to be said about wholescale spraying of DDT
> > >>>> which WAS being used to spray on wetlands to abate mosquitos etc.
> > >>>> instead of building human habitations away from those areas but use on
> > >>>> farmlands was fair usage and the laws again use of it killed people
> > >>>> through higher food costs and insect borne diseases.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I believe that at this point we can now refer to Scharf as "Beto" -
> > >>>> nothing but a cheap politician attempting to find a crusade to join
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> DDT is not in home-use pesticides. Would that it were...
> > >>
> > >> Why? We're certainly not having excessive problems with insects here..
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> - Frank Krygowski
> > >>
> > > No, you smug, vicious moron, but in the rest of the world, especially those parts of where world bodies under pressure from the Americans won't give any financial support in countries where DDT is used, the choice is between starvation and misery, and mostly just between starvation and starvation because they don't have the money without the aid to buy the necessary DDT. There are many things that make you hateful, Franki-boy, but your indifference to suffering, as long as it suffering of others, is surely one of the most obnoxious traits of Frank Krygowski.
> > >>
> > > I'm Andre Jute and I approve of this message.
> > >>
> > More offensiveness in an attempt to gather interest.
> >
> > We've seen so much of this. [yawn] It's still boring.
> >
> > --
> > - Frank Krygowski
> >
> I feel sorry for you, Franki-boy, but you're probably right: you're not qualified to argue cases with me, and you don't have moral interest anyway, so you're probably right to stick to vapid generalities.
> >
> I'm Andre Jute and I approve this message.

Franks touts communist propaganda in a continuous slather and then has the unmitigated gall to say that he isn't a communist. That SOB tells us that a poll taken RIGHT AFTER the school shooting gives an honest representation of people's beliefs in the 2nd Amendment. What do you suppose people would give for an answer about Gun Control if you informed them that more people were killed with knives than guns. But Frank will jump at ANY lie to support his idiotic beliefs.

Frank is NOT going to get his open theft from billionaires and he isn't going to get Gun Control because the founders of this country clearly SAW that people like Frank would come along and wish to disarm the population.

Let's not mention that the PEW research group reported that 47% of household have guns in them. But the police say that is a very large underestimate and that is why they ALWAYS treat honest citizens as armed and possibly deadly. But don't quote the cops to Frank. He can tell us that after a school shooting that you can get people to say that we should have stronger gun control even if those SAME people presuppose that it would not effect their ownership of guns.

On 5/28/2022 5:53 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> What do you suppose people would give for an answer about Gun Control if you informed them that more people were killed with knives than guns.

Regarding the U.S.?? People would correctly say that Tom is a liar and a
fool.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used/

Where on earth do you get your wild ideas, Tom?

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 5:58:47 PM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 5/28/2022 5:53 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > What do you suppose people would give for an answer about Gun Control if you informed them that more people were killed with knives than guns.
> Regarding the U.S.?? People would correctly say that Tom is a liar and a
> fool.
>
> https://www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used/
>
> Where on earth do you get your wild ideas, Tom?
>
> --
> - Frank Krygowski

113 other guns
203 shotguns
455 rifles
4863 firearms, type not stated
8029 handguns
13,663 total
1739 knives
7.86 to 1 ratio.
12.7% as many knives as guns.

I guess for Tommy that is pretty accurate. Overstating by 786%, for Tommy that is accurate.

>
Except for Scharfie's hit and run link to a bunch of lies, which is just a more sophisticated case of the same incompetence, the RBT Scum seem incapable of discussing cases on a serious moral question, instead diverting the threat to their pointless perpetual bullying of Tom. Aren't these worthless wankers the ones who're always posturing as if they're morally superior?
>
I'm Andre Jute and I approve of this true message.
>

On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 3:59:45 PM UTC+1, Andre Jute wrote:
> I love it when conservatives catch up to what I've been saying for decades, that the religious weather fetish of left wing kills millions of defenseless people every year. Here's Kurt Schlichter with an update about a new tranche of forthcoming murders by the Donkey Party:
>
> Leftists Are About to Kill Millions of People Right Before Our Eyes
> https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2022/05/26/leftists-are-about-to-kill-millions-of-people-right-before-our-eyes-n2607820
>
> That scum have killed hundreds of millions of women and children already by banning DDT for zero reason except to flex their muscles (which they admitted). They knew it didn't cause cancer in humans.
>
> Andre Jute
> This isn't mere carelessness, this is another pre-planned racist genocide..

On 5/28/2022 5:58 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 5/28/2022 5:53 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> What do you suppose people would give for an answer about
>> Gun Control if you informed them that more people were
>> killed with knives than guns.
>
> Regarding the U.S.?? People would correctly say that Tom is
> a liar and a fool.
>
> https://www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used/
>
>
> Where on earth do you get your wild ideas, Tom?
>

Mr Kunich is prone to conflating things. In this case knives
(or hands and feet for that matter) outnumber rifles for
homicide by a lot. But not more than 'all firearms'.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Sunday, May 29, 2022 at 4:45:13 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
> On 5/28/2022 5:58 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > On 5/28/2022 5:53 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >> What do you suppose people would give for an answer about
> >> Gun Control if you informed them that more people were
> >> killed with knives than guns.
> >
> > Regarding the U.S.?? People would correctly say that Tom is
> > a liar and a fool.
> >
> > https://www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used/
> >
> >
> > Where on earth do you get your wild ideas, Tom?
> >
> Mr Kunich is prone to conflating things. In this case knives
> (or hands and feet for that matter) outnumber rifles for
> homicide by a lot. But not more than 'all firearms'.
> --
> Andrew Muzi
> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>
Hell, I should be so lucky as to have so many earnest, dedicated, hardworking, unpaid research assistants as Tom has gathered around him with very little apparent effort. Why, one of Tom's research assistants was a professor of welding, another was an accountant, still another was mayor of some hick suburb out in Donkeyland aka California. That's heavy stuff, most admirable, even enviable.
>
Andre Jute
Hey, Tom, in my prime my research assistants wore miniskirts or hot pants.
>

On Sunday, May 29, 2022 at 10:17:29 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Sunday, May 29, 2022 at 4:45:13 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
> > On 5/28/2022 5:58 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > > On 5/28/2022 5:53 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > >> What do you suppose people would give for an answer about
> > >> Gun Control if you informed them that more people were
> > >> killed with knives than guns.
> > >
> > > Regarding the U.S.?? People would correctly say that Tom is
> > > a liar and a fool.
> > >
> > > https://www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used/
> > >
> > >
> > > Where on earth do you get your wild ideas, Tom?
> > >
> > Mr Kunich is prone to conflating things. In this case knives
> > (or hands and feet for that matter) outnumber rifles for
> > homicide by a lot. But not more than 'all firearms'.
> > --
> > Andrew Muzi
> > <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> > Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> >
> Hell, I should be so lucky as to have so many earnest, dedicated, hardworking, unpaid research assistants as Tom has gathered around him with very little apparent effort. Why, one of Tom's research assistants was a professor of welding, another was an accountant, still another was mayor of some hick suburb out in Donkeyland aka California. That's heavy stuff, most admirable, even enviable.
> >
> Andre Jute
> Hey, Tom, in my prime my research assistants wore miniskirts or hot pants..

I'm pretty sure that Scharf, Russell and Flunky wear hot pants and miniskirts. John would but knows what they do to those kind in Thailand. Frank would like to but being a college instructor can't figure out how to put them on.

On Sunday, May 29, 2022 at 8:45:13 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> On 5/28/2022 5:58 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > On 5/28/2022 5:53 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >> What do you suppose people would give for an answer about
> >> Gun Control if you informed them that more people were
> >> killed with knives than guns.
> >
> > Regarding the U.S.?? People would correctly say that Tom is
> > a liar and a fool.
> >
> > https://www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used/
> >
> >
> > Where on earth do you get your wild ideas, Tom?
> >
> Mr Kunich is prone to conflating things. In this case knives
> (or hands and feet for that matter) outnumber rifles for
> homicide by a lot. But not more than 'all firearms'.

If you consider that most pistol homicides are suicides by a healthy margin and that rifles are included in nearly NO homicides, I made the error of not specifying "more murders by a large margin are committed with knives rather than rifles."

That pin headed Frank and his belief that "noboby needs an assault weapon" when he can't even define what an "assault weapon" is is maddening.

Everyone should be aware that the rifle that killed the most people in this entire world is a Kalishnikov (AK-47) and it looks just like any hunting rifle - very similar to an M1B.

Don't believe me, then listen to the FBI: https://dailycaller.com/2021/03/24/knives-kill-more-people-than-rifles-every-year/

On Sunday, May 29, 2022 at 2:07:49 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> If you consider that most pistol homicides are suicides by a healthy margin and that rifles are included in nearly NO homicides, I made the error of not specifying "more murders by a large margin are committed with knives rather than rifles."

Benefits vs. Detriments, Tom. Why is that so hard for you?

No country on earth gets by without the use of knives by the public. Their benefits are many . Dozens of countries do far, far better than the U.S. without the use of AR style weapons by the public.
> That pin headed Frank and his belief that "noboby needs an assault weapon" when he can't even define what an "assault weapon" is is maddening.

Ah, Tom, if only you had a memory! Let's try again. Here's a definition:

"The term assault weapon is used in the United States to define different types of firearms.[1] The definition varies among regulating jurisdictions, but usually includes semi-automatic firearms with a detachable magazine, a pistol grip, and sometimes other features, such as a vertical forward grip, flash suppressor, or barrel shroud.[1][2] Certain firearms are specified by name in some laws that restrict assault weapons.[3] When the now-defunct Federal Assault Weapons Ban was passed in 1994, the U.S. Department of Justice said, "In general, assault weapons are semiautomatic firearms with a large magazine of ammunition that were designed and configured for rapid fire and combat use."[3]

The AR was designed for combat use. Look it up.

- Frank Krygowski

On Sunday, May 29, 2022 at 1:07:49 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, May 29, 2022 at 8:45:13 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> > On 5/28/2022 5:58 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > > On 5/28/2022 5:53 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > >> What do you suppose people would give for an answer about
> > >> Gun Control if you informed them that more people were
> > >> killed with knives than guns.
> > >
> > > Regarding the U.S.?? People would correctly say that Tom is
> > > a liar and a fool.
> > >
> > > https://www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used/
> > >
> > >
> > > Where on earth do you get your wild ideas, Tom?
> > >
> > Mr Kunich is prone to conflating things. In this case knives
> > (or hands and feet for that matter) outnumber rifles for
> > homicide by a lot. But not more than 'all firearms'.
> If you consider that most pistol homicides are suicides by a healthy margin and that rifles are included in nearly NO homicides, I made the error of not specifying "more murders by a large margin are committed with knives rather than rifles."
>
> That pin headed Frank and his belief that "noboby needs an assault weapon" when he can't even define what an "assault weapon" is is maddening.
>
> Everyone should be aware that the rifle that killed the most people in this entire world is a Kalishnikov (AK-47) and it looks just like any hunting rifle - very similar to an M1B.
>

M1B?????? I did a search and did come up with variants of the M1 labeled C and D. They were fitted with scopes and called sniper rifles. Very limited production and use. But I don't think there is anything called an M1B. It was just the M1 Garand. Garand for the Canadian who designed the rifle.. The M1 was the official US military rifle from 1936 to 1957.

Now, whether the M1 Garand and the AK47 and any hunting rifle look similar, well.........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Garand
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47
Typical hunting rifles are the Remington 700 or the Winchester 70.
https://www.remarms.com/rifles/bolt-action/model-700/
https://www.winchesterguns.com/products/rifles/model-70/current.html

Once again, we have Tommy talking out of his back side about something he is completely clueless about. Typical Tommy. Tell us Tommy boy, how many hunting rifles are loaded with a clip into the internal magazine? None? Do you even know what an M1 Garand is? I doubt it. It was the semi auto rifle used by the military in WW2 and Korea. It was loaded with an 8 round clip that was shoved into the internal magazine from the top. Through the open bolt. Semi auto hunting rifles use an external magazine. That is pushed into the rifle.

Your cluelessness is truly astounding.

> Don't believe me, then listen to the FBI: https://dailycaller.com/2021/03/24/knives-kill-more-people-than-rifles-every-year/

On Sunday, May 29, 2022 at 2:06:44 PM UTC-5, frkr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, May 29, 2022 at 2:07:49 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > If you consider that most pistol homicides are suicides by a healthy margin and that rifles are included in nearly NO homicides, I made the error of not specifying "more murders by a large margin are committed with knives rather than rifles."
> Benefits vs. Detriments, Tom. Why is that so hard for you?
>
> No country on earth gets by without the use of knives by the public. Their benefits are many . Dozens of countries do far, far better than the U.S. without the use of AR style weapons by the public.
> > That pin headed Frank and his belief that "noboby needs an assault weapon" when he can't even define what an "assault weapon" is is maddening.
> Ah, Tom, if only you had a memory! Let's try again. Here's a definition:
>
> "The term assault weapon is used in the United States to define different types of firearms.[1] The definition varies among regulating jurisdictions, but usually includes semi-automatic firearms with a detachable magazine, a pistol grip, and sometimes other features, such as a vertical forward grip, flash suppressor, or barrel shroud.[1][2] Certain firearms are specified by name in some laws that restrict assault weapons.[3] When the now-defunct Federal Assault Weapons Ban was passed in 1994, the U.S. Department of Justice said, "In general, assault weapons are semiautomatic firearms with a large magazine of ammunition that were designed and configured for rapid fire and combat use."[3]
>
> The AR was designed for combat use. Look it up.
>
> - Frank Krygowski

I doubt Tommy has the intelligence to look it up. But everyone in the world, except Tommy apparently, knows the AR-15 model was designed by Eugene Stoner at Armalite back in the 1950s. It was for a military contract, request, for new military rifles. The US military realized after WW2 and Korea that the M1 Garand was not ideal. The M16 was developed from the AR-15 prototype. And the M16 was adopted by the US military in the 1960s as its rifle. And has been used ever since. And is used by lots of other militaries in the world too. So it has seen some combat use.

On Sun, 29 May 2022 22:42:45 -0700 (PDT), "russellseaton1@yahoo.com"
<ritzannaseaton@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, May 29, 2022 at 1:07:49 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Sunday, May 29, 2022 at 8:45:13 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
>> > On 5/28/2022 5:58 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> > > On 5/28/2022 5:53 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> > >> What do you suppose people would give for an answer about
>> > >> Gun Control if you informed them that more people were
>> > >> killed with knives than guns.
>> > >
>> > > Regarding the U.S.?? People would correctly say that Tom is
>> > > a liar and a fool.
>> > >
>> > > https://www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used/
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Where on earth do you get your wild ideas, Tom?
>> > >
>> > Mr Kunich is prone to conflating things. In this case knives
>> > (or hands and feet for that matter) outnumber rifles for
>> > homicide by a lot. But not more than 'all firearms'.
>> If you consider that most pistol homicides are suicides by a healthy margin and that rifles are included in nearly NO homicides, I made the error of not specifying "more murders by a large margin are committed with knives rather than rifles."
>>
>> That pin headed Frank and his belief that "noboby needs an assault weapon" when he can't even define what an "assault weapon" is is maddening.
>>
>> Everyone should be aware that the rifle that killed the most people in this entire world is a Kalishnikov (AK-47) and it looks just like any hunting rifle - very similar to an M1B.
>>
>
>M1B?????? I did a search and did come up with variants of the M1 labeled C and D. They were fitted with scopes and called sniper rifles. Very limited production and use. But I don't think there is anything called an M1B. It was just the M1 Garand. Garand for the Canadian who designed the rifle. The M1 was the official US military rifle from 1936 to 1957.
>
>Now, whether the M1 Garand and the AK47 and any hunting rifle look similar, well.........
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Garand
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47
>Typical hunting rifles are the Remington 700 or the Winchester 70.
>https://www.remarms.com/rifles/bolt-action/model-700/
>https://www.winchesterguns.com/products/rifles/model-70/current.html
>
>Once again, we have Tommy talking out of his back side about something he is completely clueless about. Typical Tommy. Tell us Tommy boy, how many hunting rifles are loaded with a clip into the internal magazine? None? Do you even know what an M1 Garand is? I doubt it. It was the semi auto rifle used by the military in WW2 and Korea. It was loaded with an 8 round clip that was shoved into the internal magazine from the top. Through the open bolt. Semi auto hunting rifles use an external magazine. That is pushed into the rifle.
>
>Your cluelessness is truly astounding.

>> Don't believe me, then listen to the FBI: https://dailycaller.com/2021/03/24/knives-kill-more-people-than-rifles-every-year/

Actually didn't the AK sort of influence the development of the AR?
And the AK was influenced by the German Sturmgewehr 44 (of 1944 :-)
(in fact that is where the name Storm-assault Gewehr -rifle came from
:-)
--
Cheers,

John B.

On 5/30/2022 12:42 AM, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Sunday, May 29, 2022 at 1:07:49 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Sunday, May 29, 2022 at 8:45:13 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
>>> On 5/28/2022 5:58 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>> On 5/28/2022 5:53 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>> What do you suppose people would give for an answer about
>>>>> Gun Control if you informed them that more people were
>>>>> killed with knives than guns.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding the U.S.?? People would correctly say that Tom is
>>>> a liar and a fool.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Where on earth do you get your wild ideas, Tom?
>>>>
>>> Mr Kunich is prone to conflating things. In this case knives
>>> (or hands and feet for that matter) outnumber rifles for
>>> homicide by a lot. But not more than 'all firearms'.
>> If you consider that most pistol homicides are suicides by a healthy margin and that rifles are included in nearly NO homicides, I made the error of not specifying "more murders by a large margin are committed with knives rather than rifles."
>>
>> That pin headed Frank and his belief that "noboby needs an assault weapon" when he can't even define what an "assault weapon" is is maddening.
>>
>> Everyone should be aware that the rifle that killed the most people in this entire world is a Kalishnikov (AK-47) and it looks just like any hunting rifle - very similar to an M1B.
>>
>
> M1B?????? I did a search and did come up with variants of the M1 labeled C and D. They were fitted with scopes and called sniper rifles. Very limited production and use. But I don't think there is anything called an M1B. It was just the M1 Garand. Garand for the Canadian who designed the rifle. The M1 was the official US military rifle from 1936 to 1957.
>
> Now, whether the M1 Garand and the AK47 and any hunting rifle look similar, well.........
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Garand
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47
> Typical hunting rifles are the Remington 700 or the Winchester 70.
> https://www.remarms.com/rifles/bolt-action/model-700/
> https://www.winchesterguns.com/products/rifles/model-70/current.html
>
> Once again, we have Tommy talking out of his back side about something he is completely clueless about. Typical Tommy. Tell us Tommy boy, how many hunting rifles are loaded with a clip into the internal magazine? None? Do you even know what an M1 Garand is? I doubt it. It was the semi auto rifle used by the military in WW2 and Korea. It was loaded with an 8 round clip that was shoved into the internal magazine from the top. Through the open bolt. Semi auto hunting rifles use an external magazine. That is pushed into the rifle.
>
> Your cluelessness is truly astounding.
>
>
>
>
>> Don't believe me, then listen to the FBI: https://dailycaller.com/2021/03/24/knives-kill-more-people-than-rifles-every-year/

When I was young the most popular deer rifles were surplus
M1 in .308.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 5:41:54 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> On 5/30/2022 12:42 AM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, May 29, 2022 at 1:07:49 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Sunday, May 29, 2022 at 8:45:13 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> >>> On 5/28/2022 5:58 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> >>>> On 5/28/2022 5:53 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>>>> What do you suppose people would give for an answer about
> >>>>> Gun Control if you informed them that more people were
> >>>>> killed with knives than guns.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regarding the U.S.?? People would correctly say that Tom is
> >>>> a liar and a fool.
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Where on earth do you get your wild ideas, Tom?
> >>>>
> >>> Mr Kunich is prone to conflating things. In this case knives
> >>> (or hands and feet for that matter) outnumber rifles for
> >>> homicide by a lot. But not more than 'all firearms'.
> >> If you consider that most pistol homicides are suicides by a healthy margin and that rifles are included in nearly NO homicides, I made the error of not specifying "more murders by a large margin are committed with knives rather than rifles."
> >>
> >> That pin headed Frank and his belief that "noboby needs an assault weapon" when he can't even define what an "assault weapon" is is maddening.
> >>
> >> Everyone should be aware that the rifle that killed the most people in this entire world is a Kalishnikov (AK-47) and it looks just like any hunting rifle - very similar to an M1B.
> >>
> >
> > M1B?????? I did a search and did come up with variants of the M1 labeled C and D. They were fitted with scopes and called sniper rifles. Very limited production and use. But I don't think there is anything called an M1B. It was just the M1 Garand. Garand for the Canadian who designed the rifle. The M1 was the official US military rifle from 1936 to 1957.
> >
> > Now, whether the M1 Garand and the AK47 and any hunting rifle look similar, well.........
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Garand
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47
> > Typical hunting rifles are the Remington 700 or the Winchester 70.
> > https://www.remarms.com/rifles/bolt-action/model-700/
> > https://www.winchesterguns.com/products/rifles/model-70/current.html
> >
> > Once again, we have Tommy talking out of his back side about something he is completely clueless about. Typical Tommy. Tell us Tommy boy, how many hunting rifles are loaded with a clip into the internal magazine? None? Do you even know what an M1 Garand is? I doubt it. It was the semi auto rifle used by the military in WW2 and Korea. It was loaded with an 8 round clip that was shoved into the internal magazine from the top. Through the open bolt. Semi auto hunting rifles use an external magazine. That is pushed into the rifle.
> >
> > Your cluelessness is truly astounding.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Don't believe me, then listen to the FBI: https://dailycaller.com/2021/03/24/knives-kill-more-people-than-rifles-every-year/
> When I was young the most popular deer rifles were surplus
> M1 in .308.

Well, the M1 was a 30-06 of which the .308 is a shortened version which makes ejection of the spent round faster and allows a clip feed that can give you more rounds to fire before needing a new clip. This is used on the M1B.

Can you imagine the terror on Frank's face when he discovers that all of his attempts at defining an "assault weapon" fail miserably when confronted with a M1B which looks just like any semi-automatic hunting rifle?

On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 3:50:53 PM UTC+1, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 5:41:54 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> > On 5/30/2022 12:42 AM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > On Sunday, May 29, 2022 at 1:07:49 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> On Sunday, May 29, 2022 at 8:45:13 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> > >>> On 5/28/2022 5:58 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > >>>> On 5/28/2022 5:53 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > >>>>> What do you suppose people would give for an answer about
> > >>>>> Gun Control if you informed them that more people were
> > >>>>> killed with knives than guns.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Regarding the U.S.?? People would correctly say that Tom is
> > >>>> a liar and a fool.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> https://www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used/
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Where on earth do you get your wild ideas, Tom?
> > >>>>
> > >>> Mr Kunich is prone to conflating things. In this case knives
> > >>> (or hands and feet for that matter) outnumber rifles for
> > >>> homicide by a lot. But not more than 'all firearms'.
> > >> If you consider that most pistol homicides are suicides by a healthy margin and that rifles are included in nearly NO homicides, I made the error of not specifying "more murders by a large margin are committed with knives rather than rifles."
> > >>
> > >> That pin headed Frank and his belief that "noboby needs an assault weapon" when he can't even define what an "assault weapon" is is maddening.
> > >>
> > >> Everyone should be aware that the rifle that killed the most people in this entire world is a Kalishnikov (AK-47) and it looks just like any hunting rifle - very similar to an M1B.
> > >>
> > >
> > > M1B?????? I did a search and did come up with variants of the M1 labeled C and D. They were fitted with scopes and called sniper rifles. Very limited production and use. But I don't think there is anything called an M1B.. It was just the M1 Garand. Garand for the Canadian who designed the rifle.. The M1 was the official US military rifle from 1936 to 1957.
> > >
> > > Now, whether the M1 Garand and the AK47 and any hunting rifle look similar, well.........
> > >
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Garand
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47
> > > Typical hunting rifles are the Remington 700 or the Winchester 70.
> > > https://www.remarms.com/rifles/bolt-action/model-700/
> > > https://www.winchesterguns.com/products/rifles/model-70/current.html
> > >
> > > Once again, we have Tommy talking out of his back side about something he is completely clueless about. Typical Tommy. Tell us Tommy boy, how many hunting rifles are loaded with a clip into the internal magazine? None? Do you even know what an M1 Garand is? I doubt it. It was the semi auto rifle used by the military in WW2 and Korea. It was loaded with an 8 round clip that was shoved into the internal magazine from the top. Through the open bolt. Semi auto hunting rifles use an external magazine. That is pushed into the rifle.
> > >
> > > Your cluelessness is truly astounding.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> Don't believe me, then listen to the FBI: https://dailycaller.com/2021/03/24/knives-kill-more-people-than-rifles-every-year/
> > When I was young the most popular deer rifles were surplus
> > M1 in .308.
> Well, the M1 was a 30-06 of which the .308 is a shortened version which makes ejection of the spent round faster and allows a clip feed that can give you more rounds to fire before needing a new clip. This is used on the M1B.
>
> Can you imagine the terror on Frank's face when he discovers that all of his attempts at defining an "assault weapon" fail miserably when confronted with a M1B which looks just like any semi-automatic hunting rifle?
>
Nah, if one assault rifle looks like a hunting rifle and 999 hunting rifles look merely like hunting rifles, Franki-boy will smugly want to ban all 1000 rifles. That's because he's the sort of scum who always knows better than everyone else. That is a stain even John the Baptist with all the water in the Sea of Galilee can't wash off Frank Krygowski.
>
I'm Andre Jute and the NRA didn't pay me for this message.

On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 10:12:21 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 3:50:53 PM UTC+1, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 5:41:54 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> > > On 5/30/2022 12:42 AM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, May 29, 2022 at 1:07:49 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >> On Sunday, May 29, 2022 at 8:45:13 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> > > >>> On 5/28/2022 5:58 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > > >>>> On 5/28/2022 5:53 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > >>>>> What do you suppose people would give for an answer about
> > > >>>>> Gun Control if you informed them that more people were
> > > >>>>> killed with knives than guns.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Regarding the U.S.?? People would correctly say that Tom is
> > > >>>> a liar and a fool.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> https://www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used/
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Where on earth do you get your wild ideas, Tom?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>> Mr Kunich is prone to conflating things. In this case knives
> > > >>> (or hands and feet for that matter) outnumber rifles for
> > > >>> homicide by a lot. But not more than 'all firearms'.
> > > >> If you consider that most pistol homicides are suicides by a healthy margin and that rifles are included in nearly NO homicides, I made the error of not specifying "more murders by a large margin are committed with knives rather than rifles."
> > > >>
> > > >> That pin headed Frank and his belief that "noboby needs an assault weapon" when he can't even define what an "assault weapon" is is maddening..
> > > >>
> > > >> Everyone should be aware that the rifle that killed the most people in this entire world is a Kalishnikov (AK-47) and it looks just like any hunting rifle - very similar to an M1B.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > M1B?????? I did a search and did come up with variants of the M1 labeled C and D. They were fitted with scopes and called sniper rifles. Very limited production and use. But I don't think there is anything called an M1B. It was just the M1 Garand. Garand for the Canadian who designed the rifle. The M1 was the official US military rifle from 1936 to 1957.
> > > >
> > > > Now, whether the M1 Garand and the AK47 and any hunting rifle look similar, well.........
> > > >
> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Garand
> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47
> > > > Typical hunting rifles are the Remington 700 or the Winchester 70.
> > > > https://www.remarms.com/rifles/bolt-action/model-700/
> > > > https://www.winchesterguns.com/products/rifles/model-70/current.html
> > > >
> > > > Once again, we have Tommy talking out of his back side about something he is completely clueless about. Typical Tommy. Tell us Tommy boy, how many hunting rifles are loaded with a clip into the internal magazine? None? Do you even know what an M1 Garand is? I doubt it. It was the semi auto rifle used by the military in WW2 and Korea. It was loaded with an 8 round clip that was shoved into the internal magazine from the top. Through the open bolt. Semi auto hunting rifles use an external magazine. That is pushed into the rifle.
> > > >
> > > > Your cluelessness is truly astounding.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Don't believe me, then listen to the FBI: https://dailycaller.com/2021/03/24/knives-kill-more-people-than-rifles-every-year/
> > > When I was young the most popular deer rifles were surplus
> > > M1 in .308.
> > Well, the M1 was a 30-06 of which the .308 is a shortened version which makes ejection of the spent round faster and allows a clip feed that can give you more rounds to fire before needing a new clip. This is used on the M1B.
> >
> > Can you imagine the terror on Frank's face when he discovers that all of his attempts at defining an "assault weapon" fail miserably when confronted with a M1B which looks just like any semi-automatic hunting rifle?
> >
> Nah, if one assault rifle looks like a hunting rifle and 999 hunting rifles look merely like hunting rifles, Franki-boy will smugly want to ban all 1000 rifles. That's because he's the sort of scum who always knows better than everyone else. That is a stain even John the Baptist with all the water in the Sea of Galilee can't wash off Frank Krygowski.
> >
> I'm Andre Jute and the NRA didn't pay me for this message.

I wonder what Frank is going to think when all of the illegals start being transplanted near him?

On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 7:41:54 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
> On 5/30/2022 12:42 AM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, May 29, 2022 at 1:07:49 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Sunday, May 29, 2022 at 8:45:13 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> >>> On 5/28/2022 5:58 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> >>>> On 5/28/2022 5:53 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>>>> What do you suppose people would give for an answer about
> >>>>> Gun Control if you informed them that more people were
> >>>>> killed with knives than guns.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regarding the U.S.?? People would correctly say that Tom is
> >>>> a liar and a fool.
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Where on earth do you get your wild ideas, Tom?
> >>>>
> >>> Mr Kunich is prone to conflating things. In this case knives
> >>> (or hands and feet for that matter) outnumber rifles for
> >>> homicide by a lot. But not more than 'all firearms'.
> >> If you consider that most pistol homicides are suicides by a healthy margin and that rifles are included in nearly NO homicides, I made the error of not specifying "more murders by a large margin are committed with knives rather than rifles."
> >>
> >> That pin headed Frank and his belief that "noboby needs an assault weapon" when he can't even define what an "assault weapon" is is maddening.
> >>
> >> Everyone should be aware that the rifle that killed the most people in this entire world is a Kalishnikov (AK-47) and it looks just like any hunting rifle - very similar to an M1B.
> >>
> >
> > M1B?????? I did a search and did come up with variants of the M1 labeled C and D. They were fitted with scopes and called sniper rifles. Very limited production and use. But I don't think there is anything called an M1B. It was just the M1 Garand. Garand for the Canadian who designed the rifle. The M1 was the official US military rifle from 1936 to 1957.
> >
> > Now, whether the M1 Garand and the AK47 and any hunting rifle look similar, well.........
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Garand
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47
> > Typical hunting rifles are the Remington 700 or the Winchester 70.
> > https://www.remarms.com/rifles/bolt-action/model-700/
> > https://www.winchesterguns.com/products/rifles/model-70/current.html
> >
> > Once again, we have Tommy talking out of his back side about something he is completely clueless about. Typical Tommy. Tell us Tommy boy, how many hunting rifles are loaded with a clip into the internal magazine? None? Do you even know what an M1 Garand is? I doubt it. It was the semi auto rifle used by the military in WW2 and Korea. It was loaded with an 8 round clip that was shoved into the internal magazine from the top. Through the open bolt. Semi auto hunting rifles use an external magazine. That is pushed into the rifle.
> >
> > Your cluelessness is truly astounding.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Don't believe me, then listen to the FBI: https://dailycaller.com/2021/03/24/knives-kill-more-people-than-rifles-every-year/
> When I was young the most popular deer rifles were surplus
> M1 in .308.
> --
> Andrew Muzi
> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971

No. The M1 Garand was only produced in 30-06 caliber. .30 caliber Springfield 1906. Thus 30-aught 6. 30-06. Not 308 Winchester. Same bullet but different casing length and different power. 30-06 is a little more powerful than 308 Winchester. 63mm case compared to 51mm casing. The US Navy did briefly make a 308 Winchester version after WW2. The M1 Garand copied the 1903 Springfield bolt action rifle from WW1 for caliber. Bolt action 30-06 for WW1. Semi auto 30-06 for WW2.
https://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/longgun_reviews_st_0302_springfield/100437
https://www.quora.com/What-caliber-round-does-the-M1-Garand-use
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Garand

On 5/30/2022 10:31 PM, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 7:41:54 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 5/30/2022 12:42 AM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> On Sunday, May 29, 2022 at 1:07:49 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, May 29, 2022 at 8:45:13 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>> On 5/28/2022 5:58 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/28/2022 5:53 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>>>> What do you suppose people would give for an answer about
>>>>>>> Gun Control if you informed them that more people were
>>>>>>> killed with knives than guns.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regarding the U.S.?? People would correctly say that Tom is
>>>>>> a liar and a fool.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where on earth do you get your wild ideas, Tom?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Mr Kunich is prone to conflating things. In this case knives
>>>>> (or hands and feet for that matter) outnumber rifles for
>>>>> homicide by a lot. But not more than 'all firearms'.
>>>> If you consider that most pistol homicides are suicides by a healthy margin and that rifles are included in nearly NO homicides, I made the error of not specifying "more murders by a large margin are committed with knives rather than rifles."
>>>>
>>>> That pin headed Frank and his belief that "noboby needs an assault weapon" when he can't even define what an "assault weapon" is is maddening.
>>>>
>>>> Everyone should be aware that the rifle that killed the most people in this entire world is a Kalishnikov (AK-47) and it looks just like any hunting rifle - very similar to an M1B.
>>>>
>>>
>>> M1B?????? I did a search and did come up with variants of the M1 labeled C and D. They were fitted with scopes and called sniper rifles. Very limited production and use. But I don't think there is anything called an M1B. It was just the M1 Garand. Garand for the Canadian who designed the rifle. The M1 was the official US military rifle from 1936 to 1957.
>>>
>>> Now, whether the M1 Garand and the AK47 and any hunting rifle look similar, well.........
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Garand
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47
>>> Typical hunting rifles are the Remington 700 or the Winchester 70.
>>> https://www.remarms.com/rifles/bolt-action/model-700/
>>> https://www.winchesterguns.com/products/rifles/model-70/current.html
>>>
>>> Once again, we have Tommy talking out of his back side about something he is completely clueless about. Typical Tommy. Tell us Tommy boy, how many hunting rifles are loaded with a clip into the internal magazine? None? Do you even know what an M1 Garand is? I doubt it. It was the semi auto rifle used by the military in WW2 and Korea. It was loaded with an 8 round clip that was shoved into the internal magazine from the top. Through the open bolt. Semi auto hunting rifles use an external magazine. That is pushed into the rifle.
>>>
>>> Your cluelessness is truly astounding.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Don't believe me, then listen to the FBI: https://dailycaller.com/2021/03/24/knives-kill-more-people-than-rifles-every-year/
>> When I was young the most popular deer rifles were surplus
>> M1 in .308.
>> --
>> Andrew Muzi
>> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>
> No. The M1 Garand was only produced in 30-06 caliber. .30 caliber Springfield 1906. Thus 30-aught 6. 30-06. Not 308 Winchester. Same bullet but different casing length and different power. 30-06 is a little more powerful than 308 Winchester. 63mm case compared to 51mm casing. The US Navy did briefly make a 308 Winchester version after WW2. The M1 Garand copied the 1903 Springfield bolt action rifle from WW1 for caliber. Bolt action 30-06 for WW1. Semi auto 30-06 for WW2.
> https://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/longgun_reviews_st_0302_springfield/100437
> https://www.quora.com/What-caliber-round-does-the-M1-Garand-use
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Garand
>

WWII Garands are 30-06. The Army changed to .308 in the
1950s. Both are very available:
https://thecmp.org/sales-and-service/m1-garand/

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

>
Hey, Seaton or Eaton or whatever your name is: Now that you're such a firearms expert and obsessive, will we soon see your name in the headlines as another ;school shooter, hoping to kill the grandchildren of the girl who wouldn't go to the school dance with you because you were such a grabby creep?
>
>On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 4:31:09 AM UTC+1, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> No. The M1 Garand was only produced in 30-06 caliber. .30 caliber Springfield 1906. Thus 30-aught 6. 30-06. Not 308 Winchester. Same bullet but different casing length and different power. 30-06 is a little more powerful than 308 Winchester. 63mm case compared to 51mm casing. The US Navy did briefly make a 308 Winchester version after WW2. The M1 Garand copied the 1903 Springfield bolt action rifle from WW1 for caliber. Bolt action 30-06 for WW1. Semi auto 30-06 for WW2.
> https://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/longgun_reviews_st_0302_springfield/100437
> https://www.quora.com/What-caliber-round-does-the-M1-Garand-use
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Garand

On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 5:37:51 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> >
> Hey, Seaton or Eaton or whatever your name is: Now that you're such a firearms expert and obsessive, will we soon see your name in the headlines as another ;school shooter, hoping to kill the grandchildren of the girl who wouldn't go to the school dance with you because you were such a grabby creep?
> >
> >On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 4:31:09 AM UTC+1, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > No. The M1 Garand was only produced in 30-06 caliber. .30 caliber Springfield 1906. Thus 30-aught 6. 30-06. Not 308 Winchester. Same bullet but different casing length and different power. 30-06 is a little more powerful than 308 Winchester. 63mm case compared to 51mm casing. The US Navy did briefly make a 308 Winchester version after WW2. The M1 Garand copied the 1903 Springfield bolt action rifle from WW1 for caliber. Bolt action 30-06 for WW1. Semi auto 30-06 for WW2.
> > https://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/longgun_reviews_st_0302_springfield/100437
> > https://www.quora.com/What-caliber-round-does-the-M1-Garand-use
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Garand

I don't think that is his sexual preference.

On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 7:31:54 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
> On 5/30/2022 10:31 PM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 7:41:54 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
> >> On 5/30/2022 12:42 AM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, May 29, 2022 at 1:07:49 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> On Sunday, May 29, 2022 at 8:45:13 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> >>>>> On 5/28/2022 5:58 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> >>>>>> On 5/28/2022 5:53 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>>>>>> What do you suppose people would give for an answer about
> >>>>>>> Gun Control if you informed them that more people were
> >>>>>>> killed with knives than guns.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regarding the U.S.?? People would correctly say that Tom is
> >>>>>> a liar and a fool.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Where on earth do you get your wild ideas, Tom?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Mr Kunich is prone to conflating things. In this case knives
> >>>>> (or hands and feet for that matter) outnumber rifles for
> >>>>> homicide by a lot. But not more than 'all firearms'.
> >>>> If you consider that most pistol homicides are suicides by a healthy margin and that rifles are included in nearly NO homicides, I made the error of not specifying "more murders by a large margin are committed with knives rather than rifles."
> >>>>
> >>>> That pin headed Frank and his belief that "noboby needs an assault weapon" when he can't even define what an "assault weapon" is is maddening.
> >>>>
> >>>> Everyone should be aware that the rifle that killed the most people in this entire world is a Kalishnikov (AK-47) and it looks just like any hunting rifle - very similar to an M1B.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> M1B?????? I did a search and did come up with variants of the M1 labeled C and D. They were fitted with scopes and called sniper rifles. Very limited production and use. But I don't think there is anything called an M1B.. It was just the M1 Garand. Garand for the Canadian who designed the rifle.. The M1 was the official US military rifle from 1936 to 1957.
> >>>
> >>> Now, whether the M1 Garand and the AK47 and any hunting rifle look similar, well.........
> >>>
> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Garand
> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47
> >>> Typical hunting rifles are the Remington 700 or the Winchester 70.
> >>> https://www.remarms.com/rifles/bolt-action/model-700/
> >>> https://www.winchesterguns.com/products/rifles/model-70/current.html
> >>>
> >>> Once again, we have Tommy talking out of his back side about something he is completely clueless about. Typical Tommy. Tell us Tommy boy, how many hunting rifles are loaded with a clip into the internal magazine? None? Do you even know what an M1 Garand is? I doubt it. It was the semi auto rifle used by the military in WW2 and Korea. It was loaded with an 8 round clip that was shoved into the internal magazine from the top. Through the open bolt. Semi auto hunting rifles use an external magazine. That is pushed into the rifle.
> >>>
> >>> Your cluelessness is truly astounding.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Don't believe me, then listen to the FBI: https://dailycaller.com/2021/03/24/knives-kill-more-people-than-rifles-every-year/
> >> When I was young the most popular deer rifles were surplus
> >> M1 in .308.
> >> --
> >> Andrew Muzi
> >> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> >> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> >
> > No. The M1 Garand was only produced in 30-06 caliber. .30 caliber Springfield 1906. Thus 30-aught 6. 30-06. Not 308 Winchester. Same bullet but different casing length and different power. 30-06 is a little more powerful than 308 Winchester. 63mm case compared to 51mm casing. The US Navy did briefly make a 308 Winchester version after WW2. The M1 Garand copied the 1903 Springfield bolt action rifle from WW1 for caliber. Bolt action 30-06 for WW1. Semi auto 30-06 for WW2.
> > https://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/longgun_reviews_st_0302_springfield/100437
> > https://www.quora.com/What-caliber-round-does-the-M1-Garand-use
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Garand
> >
> WWII Garands are 30-06. The Army changed to .308 in the
> 1950s. Both are very available:
> https://thecmp.org/sales-and-service/m1-garand/
> --
> Andrew Muzi
> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971

No. The link you provided is for a company that makes new barrels for the Garand. In a different caliber. Sort of. .30-06 and .308 are the same bullet. But use different length casings with different amounts of powder. This CMP company puts different barrels with different gas ports in the original M1 Garand rifles. Thus making them compatible with weaker .308 rounds. But this CMP company is NOT selling you an original M1 Garand. The Army did not make 308 Garand rifles. The Army only made 30-06 Garands. The US Navy briefly adapted some M1 Garands to 7.62x51mm .308 caliber. But those are now collector items. The link below talks about the Navy conversion.

My original comment was based on your quote of "When I was young the most popular deer rifles were surplus M1 in .308." No. Not possible because the Army never ever made M1 Garands in .308. And did not sell the never made rifles as surplus. You said surplus M1 in .308. Which would imply surplus rifles from WW2. Or Korea. There were not any surplus rifles from the Army after WW2 in .308. They were all 30-06 surplus rifles. You could have bought one of these surplus 30-06 rifles and had it rebarreled and ported for .308. Yes. But generally surplus military rifles are bought cheap and used. Not rebuilt and custom barreled.

Kind of like buying Greg Lemond's custom built TVT carbon bike from his 1990 Tour. With Campagnolo C Record and Time Equipe pedals. But you are taller than Greg. So you have Craig Calfee fit new carbon tubes onto the bike so it fits you. And you like electronic and Speedplay. So you replace all the parts. Do you really have a Greg Lemond 1990 Tour bike?

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/m1-garand-in-308-win.212352/

On Tue, 31 May 2022 07:31:49 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 5/30/2022 10:31 PM, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
>> On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 7:41:54 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
>>> On 5/30/2022 12:42 AM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, May 29, 2022 at 1:07:49 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, May 29, 2022 at 8:45:13 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/28/2022 5:58 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/28/2022 5:53 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>>>>> What do you suppose people would give for an answer about
>>>>>>>> Gun Control if you informed them that more people were
>>>>>>>> killed with knives than guns.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regarding the U.S.?? People would correctly say that Tom is
>>>>>>> a liar and a fool.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where on earth do you get your wild ideas, Tom?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mr Kunich is prone to conflating things. In this case knives
>>>>>> (or hands and feet for that matter) outnumber rifles for
>>>>>> homicide by a lot. But not more than 'all firearms'.
>>>>> If you consider that most pistol homicides are suicides by a healthy margin and that rifles are included in nearly NO homicides, I made the error of not specifying "more murders by a large margin are committed with knives rather than rifles."
>>>>>
>>>>> That pin headed Frank and his belief that "noboby needs an assault weapon" when he can't even define what an "assault weapon" is is maddening.
>>>>>
>>>>> Everyone should be aware that the rifle that killed the most people in this entire world is a Kalishnikov (AK-47) and it looks just like any hunting rifle - very similar to an M1B.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> M1B?????? I did a search and did come up with variants of the M1 labeled C and D. They were fitted with scopes and called sniper rifles. Very limited production and use. But I don't think there is anything called an M1B. It was just the M1 Garand. Garand for the Canadian who designed the rifle. The M1 was the official US military rifle from 1936 to 1957.
>>>>
>>>> Now, whether the M1 Garand and the AK47 and any hunting rifle look similar, well.........
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Garand
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47
>>>> Typical hunting rifles are the Remington 700 or the Winchester 70.
>>>> https://www.remarms.com/rifles/bolt-action/model-700/
>>>> https://www.winchesterguns.com/products/rifles/model-70/current.html
>>>>
>>>> Once again, we have Tommy talking out of his back side about something he is completely clueless about. Typical Tommy. Tell us Tommy boy, how many hunting rifles are loaded with a clip into the internal magazine? None? Do you even know what an M1 Garand is? I doubt it. It was the semi auto rifle used by the military in WW2 and Korea. It was loaded with an 8 round clip that was shoved into the internal magazine from the top. Through the open bolt. Semi auto hunting rifles use an external magazine. That is pushed into the rifle.
>>>>
>>>> Your cluelessness is truly astounding.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Don't believe me, then listen to the FBI: https://dailycaller.com/2021/03/24/knives-kill-more-people-than-rifles-every-year/
>>> When I was young the most popular deer rifles were surplus
>>> M1 in .308.
>>> --
>>> Andrew Muzi
>>> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
>>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>>
>> No. The M1 Garand was only produced in 30-06 caliber. .30 caliber Springfield 1906. Thus 30-aught 6. 30-06. Not 308 Winchester. Same bullet but different casing length and different power. 30-06 is a little more powerful than 308 Winchester. 63mm case compared to 51mm casing. The US Navy did briefly make a 308 Winchester version after WW2. The M1 Garand copied the 1903 Springfield bolt action rifle from WW1 for caliber. Bolt action 30-06 for WW1. Semi auto 30-06 for WW2.
>> https://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/longgun_reviews_st_0302_springfield/100437
>> https://www.quora.com/What-caliber-round-does-the-M1-Garand-use
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Garand
>>
>
>WWII Garands are 30-06. The Army changed to .308 in the
>1950s. Both are very available:
>https://thecmp.org/sales-and-service/m1-garand/

Interesting that they bother to re-barrel the old things.

My impression, and I was on the "big-bore rifle team for a short time
was that there was a better solution.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 4:23:02 PM UTC+1, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 5:37:51 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> > >
> > Hey, Seaton or Eaton or whatever your name is: Now that you're such a firearms expert and obsessive, will we soon see your name in the headlines as another ;school shooter, hoping to kill the grandchildren of the girl who wouldn't go to the school dance with you because you were such a grabby creep?
> > >
> > >On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 4:31:09 AM UTC+1, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >
> > > No. The M1 Garand was only produced in 30-06 caliber. .30 caliber Springfield 1906. Thus 30-aught 6. 30-06. Not 308 Winchester. Same bullet but different casing length and different power. 30-06 is a little more powerful than 308 Winchester. 63mm case compared to 51mm casing. The US Navy did briefly make a 308 Winchester version after WW2. The M1 Garand copied the 1903 Springfield bolt action rifle from WW1 for caliber. Bolt action 30-06 for WW1. Semi auto 30-06 for WW2.
> > > https://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/longgun_reviews_st_0302_springfield/100437
> > > https://www.quora.com/What-caliber-round-does-the-M1-Garand-use
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Garand
> I don't think that is his sexual preference.
>
We should be real sensitive and make a woke rule that everybody must declare their personal pronoun. We'll draw lots. Short straw explains to the RBT jerks what a pronoun is. -- AJ