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 by: pyotr filipivich - Sat, 20 Aug 2022 22:05 UTC

Greetings all
Whilst cleaning out yet another box/container marked "Stuff" I
found that I have two "bits" of 1 inch band saw blade, about a foot
and a half in length. Having seen videos on how to turn spade bits
into router irons, I have two questions:
1) "What was I thinking?"
2) what can be done with a piece of band saw blade? It is not
exactly stiff enough for use in plane, although it might work for a
knife blade.

Any ideas for "alternative" uses?
--
pyotr filipivich.
Discussing the decline in the US's tech edge, James Niccol once wrote
"It used to be that the USA was pretty good at producing stuff teenaged
boys could lose a finger or two playing with."

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 by: Bill - Sat, 20 Aug 2022 22:37 UTC

On 8/20/2022 6:05 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
> Greetings all
> Whilst cleaning out yet another box/container marked "Stuff" I
> found that I have two "bits" of 1 inch band saw blade, about a foot
> and a half in length. Having seen videos on how to turn spade bits
> into router irons, I have two questions:
> 1) "What was I thinking?"
> 2) what can be done with a piece of band saw blade? It is not
> exactly stiff enough for use in plane, although it might work for a
> knife blade.
>
> Any ideas for "alternative" uses?

You could probably fashion a blade for the end of your favorite "box
cutter". Maybe it would last longer than the kind you buy 12 for $2. An
envelope opener also comes to mind. Filet knives (for fish) have
flexible blades. Good luck with your project! : )

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 by: Markem618 - Sat, 20 Aug 2022 22:59 UTC

On Sat, 20 Aug 2022 15:05:57 -0700, pyotr filipivich
<phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

>Greetings all
> Whilst cleaning out yet another box/container marked "Stuff" I
>found that I have two "bits" of 1 inch band saw blade, about a foot
>and a half in length. Having seen videos on how to turn spade bits
>into router irons, I have two questions:
> 1) "What was I thinking?"
> 2) what can be done with a piece of band saw blade? It is not
>exactly stiff enough for use in plane, although it might work for a
>knife blade.
>
> Any ideas for "alternative" uses?

I have a knife my dad made out of 1 1/4 inch wide blade, it is 1/16
inch thick was from a LARGE metal cutting bandsaw. A marking tool is
also a possibilty.

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 by: Clifford Heath - Sat, 20 Aug 2022 23:01 UTC

On 21/8/22 08:05, pyotr filipivich wrote:
> Greetings all
> Whilst cleaning out yet another box/container marked "Stuff" I
> found that I have two "bits" of 1 inch band saw blade, about a foot
> and a half in length. Having seen videos on how to turn spade bits
> into router irons, I have two questions:
> 1) "What was I thinking?"
> 2) what can be done with a piece of band saw blade? It is not
> exactly stiff enough for use in plane, although it might work for a
> knife blade.
>
> Any ideas for "alternative" uses?

They work well as scraper blades for woodwork. Hone both sides and the
edge to form *sharp* 90-degree edges, use a hard metal (shaft of a good
screwdriver) to form a microscopic lip, and scrape. It cuts wood grain
cleanly, rather than shredding it and filling it with dust like
sandpaper does, and removes material faster than sandpaper too. Treat
with a good Danish oil and you have a superb finish.

Clifford Heath

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pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote in
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> Greetings all
> Whilst cleaning out yet another box/container marked "Stuff" I
> found that I have two "bits" of 1 inch band saw blade, about a foot
> and a half in length. Having seen videos on how to turn spade bits
> into router irons, I have two questions:
> 1) "What was I thinking?"
> 2) what can be done with a piece of band saw blade? It is not
> exactly stiff enough for use in plane, although it might work for a
> knife blade.
>
> Any ideas for "alternative" uses?

I've thought about drilling holes in either end of a broken blade and
just making it into a bow saw. I just never got around to it when I had
a broken blade with still very sharp teeth.

A simple striking knife could be created by sandwiching the blade with
two pieces of wood and grinding the profile to match. I wonder if the
teeth would come off faster in a vise wiggling them back and forth with
pliers or if you just ground them down. (Or you could tie a string
betwen the tooth you want gone and the door knob and slam the door?)

A bandsaw blade might be good for making a profile cutter. You file the
profile you want into the blade and run it along the wood until you get
the profile you cut. If you want to get fancy, you can add handles or
even add some support behind the blade.

Puckdropper

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Greetings all
Whilst cleaning out yet another box/container marked "Stuff" I
found that I have two "bits" of 1 inch band saw blade, about a foot
and a half in length. Having seen videos on how to turn spade bits
into router irons, I have two questions:
1) "What was I thinking?"
2) what can be done with a piece of band saw blade? It is not
exactly stiff enough for use in plane, although it might work for a
knife blade.

Any ideas for "alternative" uses?

-------------------------
I mainly use thin hard steel from razor blades to car springs and flat pry
bars for custom and replacement springs. The pry bar leaf spring cushions my
sawmill's blade tensioner, which I set at 1000-1200 lbs. I forged a froe
from a car spring.

Is this a wood or metal cutting blade?

Bandsaw blades for wood are soft enough to sharpen with a file and can be
bent somewhat without breaking, as to set the teeth. When the one-man shop
that resharpens my sawmill bands had trouble with his ageing equipment I
made a roller filing guide and doubled the service life of my blades by
touching up the 256 points. The custom spring in the guide indexes on the
tooth gullet.

Metal cutting blades are much harder and difficult to rework, except by
grinding or annealing and then hardening and tempering.

I ground the back edge of a long wood-cutting recip saw blade to a knife
edge for a camping knife+saw but found it wasn't hard enough to stay sharp.
As a saw it's been very useful, I even used it on the computer of an Apollo
IC design workstation to allow a slightly larger replacement power supply to
fit. Thus a hand-made tool helped me design a DRAM controller IC.

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Markem618 <markrm618@hotmail.com> on Sat, 20 Aug 2022 17:59:46 -0500
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>On Sat, 20 Aug 2022 15:05:57 -0700, pyotr filipivich
><phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>Greetings all
>> Whilst cleaning out yet another box/container marked "Stuff" I
>>found that I have two "bits" of 1 inch band saw blade, about a foot
>>and a half in length. Having seen videos on how to turn spade bits
>>into router irons, I have two questions:
>> 1) "What was I thinking?"
>> 2) what can be done with a piece of band saw blade? It is not
>>exactly stiff enough for use in plane, although it might work for a
>>knife blade.
>>
>> Any ideas for "alternative" uses?
>
>I have a knife my dad made out of 1 1/4 inch wide blade, it is 1/16
>inch thick was from a LARGE metal cutting bandsaw. A marking tool is
>also a possibilty.

Marking knife - aye.
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 by: Bob La Londe - Sun, 21 Aug 2022 16:21 UTC

On 8/20/2022 3:37 PM, Bill wrote:
> On 8/20/2022 6:05 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
>> Greetings all
>>     Whilst cleaning out yet another box/container marked "Stuff" I
>> found that I have two "bits" of 1 inch band saw blade, about a foot
>> and a half in length.  Having seen videos on how to turn spade bits
>> into router irons, I have two questions:
>>     1) "What was I thinking?"
>>     2) what can be done with a piece of band saw blade? It is not
>> exactly stiff enough for use in plane, although it might work for a
>> knife blade.
>>
>>     Any ideas for "alternative" uses?
>
> You could probably fashion a blade for the end of your favorite "box
> cutter".  Maybe it would last longer than the kind you buy 12 for $2. An
> envelope opener also comes to mind.  Filet knives (for fish) have
> flexible blades. Good luck with your project!   : )

They could be used in a decent pro scroll saw that has clamps instead of
pin hooks.

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 by: Bob La Londe - Sun, 21 Aug 2022 18:57 UTC

On 8/21/2022 9:21 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:
> On 8/20/2022 3:37 PM, Bill wrote:
>> On 8/20/2022 6:05 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
>>> Greetings all
>>>     Whilst cleaning out yet another box/container marked "Stuff" I
>>> found that I have two "bits" of 1 inch band saw blade, about a foot
>>> and a half in length.  Having seen videos on how to turn spade bits
>>> into router irons, I have two questions:
>>>     1) "What was I thinking?"
>>>     2) what can be done with a piece of band saw blade? It is not
>>> exactly stiff enough for use in plane, although it might work for a
>>> knife blade.
>>>
>>>     Any ideas for "alternative" uses?
>>
>> You could probably fashion a blade for the end of your favorite "box
>> cutter".  Maybe it would last longer than the kind you buy 12 for $2.
>> An envelope opener also comes to mind.  Filet knives (for fish) have
>> flexible blades. Good luck with your project!   : )
>
>
> They could be used in a decent pro scroll saw that has clamps instead of
> pin hooks.
>
>
>
>

P.S. I have a couple worn out unbroken blades laying out in my scrap
metal pile that I have no idea why I saved them. I guess I could
resharpen them in a pinch. I guess I might do that only if I didn't
have a spare on hand. Otherwise that would take longer than its worth.

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pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> writes:
>Greetings all
> Whilst cleaning out yet another box/container marked "Stuff" I
>found that I have two "bits" of 1 inch band saw blade, about a foot
>and a half in length. Having seen videos on how to turn spade bits
>into router irons, I have two questions:
> 1) "What was I thinking?"
> 2) what can be done with a piece of band saw blade? It is not
>exactly stiff enough for use in plane, although it might work for a
>knife blade.
>
> Any ideas for "alternative" uses?

They make good scrapers for getting into corners and
other small places where a full-size scraper won't fit.

Cleaning glue squeezeout in corners.

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 by: Jim Wilkins - Sun, 21 Aug 2022 22:05 UTC

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:tdtv7g$1rk6$1@gioia.aioe.org...

P.S. I have a couple worn out unbroken blades laying out in my scrap
metal pile that I have no idea why I saved them. I guess I could
resharpen them in a pinch. I guess I might do that only if I didn't
have a spare on hand. Otherwise that would take longer than its worth.

----------------------

The shop that sharpens my 16' long, 3/4" tooth pitch sawmill blades has been
charging $10 apiece, before the plagues of disease and inflation. (Frogs,
locusts??) When his quality declined I made a filing jig that took about
10-15 seconds per tooth. Filing and setting them doesn't make sense
cost-wise but it's a welcome seated rest for my knees after standing and
carrying heavy cut planks and beams.

Dull metal-cutting blades can be used for friction sawing.
https://www.practicalmachinist.com/forum/threads/refitting-bandsaw-for-friction-cutting.264463/

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 by: Bill - Mon, 22 Aug 2022 00:40 UTC

On 8/21/2022 2:57 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:

> P.S.  I have a couple worn out unbroken blades laying out in my scrap
> metal pile that I have no idea why I saved them.  I guess I could
> resharpen them in a pinch.  I guess I might do that only if I didn't
> have a spare on hand.  Otherwise that would take longer than its worth.

I have a broken garage door spring that I've been saving for when
I have a project idea and more time. I was thinking small cutting tools
for woodcarving.

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 by: pyotr filipivich - Mon, 22 Aug 2022 01:34 UTC

Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> on Sun, 21 Aug 2022 11:57:52 -0700
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>
>
>P.S. I have a couple worn out unbroken blades laying out in my scrap
>metal pile that I have no idea why I saved them. I guess I could
>resharpen them in a pinch. I guess I might do that only if I didn't
>have a spare on hand. Otherwise that would take longer than its worth.

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nothing more important, I fully intend to fix / use that, for
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"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> on Sun, 21 Aug 2022 07:56:33
-0400 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>
>I ground the back edge of a long wood-cutting recip saw blade to a knife
>edge for a camping knife+saw but found it wasn't hard enough to stay sharp.

I recall reading an article {back in the days when "the web" was
something spiders made in the corner} about doing just that.

>As a saw it's been very useful, I even used it on the computer of an Apollo
>IC design workstation to allow a slightly larger replacement power supply to
>fit. Thus a hand-made tool helped me design a DRAM controller IC.

See!!!?!
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Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> on Sun, 21 Aug 2022 09:21:57 -0700
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>On 8/20/2022 3:37 PM, Bill wrote:
>> On 8/20/2022 6:05 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
>>> Greetings all
>>>     Whilst cleaning out yet another box/container marked "Stuff" I
>>> found that I have two "bits" of 1 inch band saw blade, about a foot
>>> and a half in length.  Having seen videos on how to turn spade bits
>>> into router irons, I have two questions:
>>>     1) "What was I thinking?"
>>>     2) what can be done with a piece of band saw blade? It is not
>>> exactly stiff enough for use in plane, although it might work for a
>>> knife blade.
>>>
>>>     Any ideas for "alternative" uses?
>>
>> You could probably fashion a blade for the end of your favorite "box
>> cutter".  Maybe it would last longer than the kind you buy 12 for $2. An
>> envelope opener also comes to mind.  Filet knives (for fish) have
>> flexible blades. Good luck with your project!   : )
>
>
>They could be used in a decent pro scroll saw that has clamps instead of
>pin hooks.

Do they make a scroll saw which will handle a blade 1 (one) inch
front to back?
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 by: pyotr filipivich - Mon, 22 Aug 2022 01:34 UTC

Bill <nonegiven@att.net> on Sun, 21 Aug 2022 20:40:26 -0400 typed in
rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>On 8/21/2022 2:57 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
>
>> P.S.  I have a couple worn out unbroken blades laying out in my scrap
>> metal pile that I have no idea why I saved them.  I guess I could
>> resharpen them in a pinch.  I guess I might do that only if I didn't
>> have a spare on hand.  Otherwise that would take longer than its worth.
>
>I have a broken garage door spring that I've been saving for when
>I have a project idea and more time. I was thinking small cutting tools
>for woodcarving.

I gave the one left spring bundle to a smith friend. The other
one I kept because maybe some day ...
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 by: knuttle - Mon, 22 Aug 2022 02:12 UTC

On 8/21/2022 5:14 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> writes:
>> Greetings all
>> Whilst cleaning out yet another box/container marked "Stuff" I
>> found that I have two "bits" of 1 inch band saw blade, about a foot
>> and a half in length. Having seen videos on how to turn spade bits
>> into router irons, I have two questions:
>> 1) "What was I thinking?"
>> 2) what can be done with a piece of band saw blade? It is not
>> exactly stiff enough for use in plane, although it might work for a
>> knife blade.
>>
>> Any ideas for "alternative" uses?
>
> They make good scrapers for getting into corners and
> other small places where a full-size scraper won't fit.
>
> Cleaning glue squeezeout in corners.
That is my downfall also. Whenever something breaks or wears out it
does not get thrown away, on the chance that I will be able to use it
for something someday.

Fortunately in my younger days we move ever 6 to 8 years, so those items
had definite expiration dates and disappeared when we moved.

We have lived in this house longer than any house before, and the
crevases are filling up. My wife does not want to move again, so I am
going to have to look for another solution.

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 by: Mike Spencer - Mon, 22 Aug 2022 05:15 UTC

Bill <nonegiven@att.net> writes:

> I have a broken garage door spring that I've been saving for when
> I have a project idea and more time. I was thinking small cutting tools
> for woodcarving.

When my blacksmith shop was 100 yards from the wharf, I had a couple
of guys who asked for two tools that I made from garage door spring.
One was a sharp-pointed gaff to be fixed to a 3' wooden handle. The
other was a short, blunt hook with a 'T' handle for removing the hooks
from fish as long-line trawl was continuously mechanically hauled over
the rail without getting the subsequently exposed fish hook where it
wasn't supposed to go. The latter kept getting dropped overboard so
that guy was a regular customer.

--
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 by: Jim Wilkins - Mon, 22 Aug 2022 12:00 UTC

"Mike Spencer" wrote in message
news:874jy4oo38.fsf@bogus.nodomain.nowhere...
Bill <nonegiven@att.net> writes:

> I have a broken garage door spring that I've been saving for when
> I have a project idea and more time. I was thinking small cutting tools
> for woodcarving.

When my blacksmith shop was 100 yards from the wharf, I had a couple
of guys who asked for two tools that I made from garage door spring.
One was a sharp-pointed gaff to be fixed to a 3' wooden handle. The
other was a short, blunt hook with a 'T' handle for removing the hooks
from fish as long-line trawl was continuously mechanically hauled over
the rail without getting the subsequently exposed fish hook where it
wasn't supposed to go. The latter kept getting dropped overboard so
that guy was a regular customer.
Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada

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How do you temper spring stock for rough handling?

My one blacksmithing class was something of an apprenticeship. One task was
to straighten the coil spring from a truck with hammer and anvil. I did it,
but it was at the limit of what I could do by myself without other
mechanical aid.

I just read in a locomotive history that 1-1/4" bar stock was the maximum
that a blacksmith could forge weld in the 1840's. From other sources it
appears that large steamboat crankshafts were a real struggle to forge weld
without flaws. Steam engine development was limited by the ability to make
increasingly larger and stronger parts.

By the 1850's American locomotive boilers operated around 90PSI. Watt's
objection to the dangers of high pressure had little influence in the USA,
and the greater grades and distances here caused designs to diverge from
British practice. This is an example from the 1860's
https://www.kennesaw-ga.gov/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/IMG_0034-300x199.jpg

During the US Civil War cavalry destroyed railroads by heating the rails red
hot in the middle on a stack of burning ties (sleepers) and then twisting
them spirally or bending them around trees, which was easier for mounted
troops without heavy tools. The South started it, calling them Mrs Lincoln's
hair ties. That was a nuisance for the North but new rails were available.
When Northern cavalry became able to raid the South their very limited
industry couldn't as easily supply replacements and their military
transportation was crippled.
https://www.nchgs.org/html/griersons_raid.html
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 by: pyotr filipivich - Mon, 22 Aug 2022 20:32 UTC

knuttle <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net> on Sun, 21 Aug 2022 22:12:32
-0400 typed in rec.woodworking the following:
>On 8/21/2022 5:14 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> writes:
>>> Greetings all
>>> Whilst cleaning out yet another box/container marked "Stuff" I
>>> found that I have two "bits" of 1 inch band saw blade, about a foot
>>> and a half in length. Having seen videos on how to turn spade bits
>>> into router irons, I have two questions:
>>> 1) "What was I thinking?"
>>> 2) what can be done with a piece of band saw blade? It is not
>>> exactly stiff enough for use in plane, although it might work for a
>>> knife blade.
>>>
>>> Any ideas for "alternative" uses?
>>
>> They make good scrapers for getting into corners and
>> other small places where a full-size scraper won't fit.
>>
>> Cleaning glue squeezeout in corners.
>That is my downfall also. Whenever something breaks or wears out it
>does not get thrown away, on the chance that I will be able to use it
>for something someday.
>
>Fortunately in my younger days we move ever 6 to 8 years, so those items
>had definite expiration dates and disappeared when we moved.

When I moved out of room I rented, the stack by the computer desk
"for later" was almost as tall as the desk ...
>
>We have lived in this house longer than any house before, and the
>crevases are filling up. My wife does not want to move again, so I am
>going to have to look for another solution.

We started about a year before the move trying to stick by
"nothing comes in unless there is a space for it, or something will go
out to make said space."
Now, "What exactly will you do with it? And when? Be explicit."
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This Week's Panel: Us & Them - Eliminating Them.
Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
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 by: Bob La Londe - Mon, 22 Aug 2022 22:09 UTC

On 8/21/2022 5:40 PM, Bill wrote:
> On 8/21/2022 2:57 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
>
>> P.S.  I have a couple worn out unbroken blades laying out in my scrap
>> metal pile that I have no idea why I saved them.  I guess I could
>> resharpen them in a pinch.  I guess I might do that only if I didn't
>> have a spare on hand.  Otherwise that would take longer than its worth.
>
> I have a broken garage door spring that I've been saving for when
> I have a project idea and more time. I was thinking small cutting tools
> for woodcarving.
>

I have one too. I have mixed feelings about it though. If it has one
fracture (the failure) from fatigue it may have more that just haven't
failed yet. I don't think I'll use it unless I get it up to welding
heat and beat on it to reforge any invisible fractures.

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 by: Bob La Londe - Mon, 22 Aug 2022 22:14 UTC

On 8/21/2022 6:34 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
> Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> on Sun, 21 Aug 2022 09:21:57 -0700
> typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>> On 8/20/2022 3:37 PM, Bill wrote:
>>> On 8/20/2022 6:05 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
>>>> Greetings all
>>>>     Whilst cleaning out yet another box/container marked "Stuff" I
>>>> found that I have two "bits" of 1 inch band saw blade, about a foot
>>>> and a half in length.  Having seen videos on how to turn spade bits
>>>> into router irons, I have two questions:
>>>>     1) "What was I thinking?"
>>>>     2) what can be done with a piece of band saw blade? It is not
>>>> exactly stiff enough for use in plane, although it might work for a
>>>> knife blade.
>>>>
>>>>     Any ideas for "alternative" uses?
>>>
>>> You could probably fashion a blade for the end of your favorite "box
>>> cutter".  Maybe it would last longer than the kind you buy 12 for $2. An
>>> envelope opener also comes to mind.  Filet knives (for fish) have
>>> flexible blades. Good luck with your project!   : )
>>
>>
>> They could be used in a decent pro scroll saw that has clamps instead of
>> pin hooks.
>
> Do they make a scroll saw which will handle a blade 1 (one) inch
> front to back?

I'll have to take a look at my big scroll saw and see what I think. It
doesn't use the regular pinned scroll saw blades (it can), so it might.
Maybe with some massaging of the blade shape at the ends. I can't
think of why I would want to. Maybe if society breaks down, spares
become unobtainium, and somehow I still have electricity.

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 by: Leon - Tue, 23 Aug 2022 00:02 UTC

On 8/22/2022 5:14 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
> On 8/21/2022 6:34 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
>> Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> on Sun, 21 Aug 2022 09:21:57 -0700
>> typed in rec.crafts.metalworking  the following:
>>> On 8/20/2022 3:37 PM, Bill wrote:
>>>> On 8/20/2022 6:05 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
>>>>> Greetings all
>>>>>      Whilst cleaning out yet another box/container marked "Stuff" I
>>>>> found that I have two "bits" of 1 inch band saw blade, about a foot
>>>>> and a half in length.  Having seen videos on how to turn spade bits
>>>>> into router irons, I have two questions:
>>>>>      1) "What was I thinking?"
>>>>>      2) what can be done with a piece of band saw blade? It is not
>>>>> exactly stiff enough for use in plane, although it might work for a
>>>>> knife blade.
>>>>>
>>>>>      Any ideas for "alternative" uses?
>>>>
>>>> You could probably fashion a blade for the end of your favorite "box
>>>> cutter".  Maybe it would last longer than the kind you buy 12 for
>>>> $2. An
>>>> envelope opener also comes to mind.  Filet knives (for fish) have
>>>> flexible blades. Good luck with your project!   : )
>>>
>>>
>>> They could be used in a decent pro scroll saw that has clamps instead of
>>> pin hooks.
>>
>>     Do they make a scroll saw which will handle a blade 1 (one) inch
>> front to back?
>
>
> I'll have to take a look at my big scroll saw and see what I think.  It
> doesn't use the regular pinned scroll saw blades (it can), so it might.
>  Maybe with some massaging of the blade shape at the ends.  I can't
> think of why I would want to.  Maybe if society breaks down, spares
> become unobtainium, and somehow I still have electricity.
>

Would not a band saw blade make a scroll saw relatively pointless? I
mean are scroll saw blades so expensive that you would want to use make
one out of a band saw blade? Would a scroll saw have the oomph to
power a 1" wide blade?

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 by: Bill - Tue, 23 Aug 2022 00:13 UTC

On 8/22/2022 6:09 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
> On 8/21/2022 5:40 PM, Bill wrote:
>> On 8/21/2022 2:57 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
>>
>>> P.S.  I have a couple worn out unbroken blades laying out in my scrap
>>> metal pile that I have no idea why I saved them.  I guess I could
>>> resharpen them in a pinch.  I guess I might do that only if I didn't
>>> have a spare on hand.  Otherwise that would take longer than its worth.
>>
>> I have a broken garage door spring that I've been saving for when
>> I have a project idea and more time. I was thinking small cutting
>> tools for woodcarving.
>>
>
> I have one too.  I have mixed feelings about it though.  If it has one
> fracture (the failure) from fatigue it may have more that just haven't
> failed yet.  I don't think I'll use it unless I get it up to welding
> heat and beat on it to reforge any invisible fractures.

I never thought of trying to repair it. But one could easily get dozens
of cutting tools "out" of it. The part that sounds inconvenient is that
you would have to anneal it before shaping it, and then harden it
(properly). Because of it's location (I had to borrow something to stand
on to replace it), I'm not interesting in trying to reuse it. That said,
if it breaks again, I would replace it myself again, and I recommend the
job to the interested DIY-er.

More recently, I declogged a bathroom sink drain with a 25' snake, which
was $16, at the (infamous!) H.F. tool emporium. ; ) I thought I was
going to use the tool without a drill, but I quickly changed my mind.
To be honest, I had to do the job twice to clear it, but I was
successful on my second try (more turning, less pushing!).

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 by: krw...@notreal.com - Tue, 23 Aug 2022 01:43 UTC

On Sun, 21 Aug 2022 18:34:09 -0700, pyotr filipivich
<phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

>Bill <nonegiven@att.net> on Sun, 21 Aug 2022 20:40:26 -0400 typed in
>rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>>On 8/21/2022 2:57 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
>>
>>> P.S.  I have a couple worn out unbroken blades laying out in my scrap
>>> metal pile that I have no idea why I saved them.  I guess I could
>>> resharpen them in a pinch.  I guess I might do that only if I didn't
>>> have a spare on hand.  Otherwise that would take longer than its worth.
>>
>>I have a broken garage door spring that I've been saving for when
>>I have a project idea and more time. I was thinking small cutting tools
>>for woodcarving.
>
> I gave the one left spring bundle to a smith friend. The other
>one I kept because maybe some day ...

Hoarding much? ;-)

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