Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin..

He's not a Scientist

He's not a Physicists

He's not a Mathematician

He's not a Philosopher

He's just in fact...

a woodworker, a carpenter..

a maker of fine toys, tools, tables.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin..
>
> He's not a Scientist
>
> He's not a Physicists
>
> He's not a Mathematician
>
> He's not a Philosopher
>
>
>
> He's just in fact...
>
> a woodworker, a carpenter..
>
>
> a maker of fine toys, tools, tables.
>
>
>

All of this is true, except that a woodworker is distinct from a carpenter.

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Odd Bodkin wrote:
>
> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin..
> >
> > He's not a Scientist
> >
> > He's not a Physicists
> >
> > He's not a Mathematician
> >
> > He's not a Philosopher
> >
> >
> >
> > He's just in fact...
> >
> > a woodworker, a carpenter..
> >
> >
> > a maker of fine toys, tools, tables.
> >
> >
> >
>
> All of this is true, except that a woodworker is distinct from a carpenter.

a worker in wood, as a carpenter, joiner, or cabinetmaker.

a person who works in wood, such as a carpenter, joiner, or cabinet-maker
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/woodworker

I don't see the...distinction.

>
> --
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

Odd Bodkin wrote:

>> a maker of fine toys, tools, tables.
>
> All of this is true, except that a woodworker is distinct from a
> carpenter.

Here you have it, bill gaytes talking about *governments_evil_conspiracy*
killing own people with death_vaxx bio-weapons.

The tide turning, people are waking up, Gates is trying to cover his
tracks https://www.bitchute.com/video/O3KWQDkp6v3D/

On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 5:53:12 PM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
> Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin..
> > >
> > > He's not a Scientist
> > >
> > > He's not a Physicists
> > >
> > > He's not a Mathematician
> > >
> > > He's not a Philosopher
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > He's just in fact...
> > >
> > > a woodworker, a carpenter..
> > >
> > >
> > > a maker of fine toys, tools, tables.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > All of this is true, except that a woodworker is distinct from a carpenter.
> a worker in wood, as a carpenter, joiner, or cabinetmaker.
>
> a person who works in wood, such as a carpenter, joiner, or cabinet-maker
> https://www.dictionary.com/browse/woodworker
>
>
> I don't see the...distinction.
> >
> > --
> > Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

There is a distinction. Bodkin, posing as an artisan of a fine craft, charges you 10,000$ for a fucking table.

He, as the fraudster Einstein, sell his shit as an extreme conjunction of art, craft and absolute differential geometry.

And the suckers fall for it, hypnotized by a product elaborated by a mathematician/philosopher.

He's not different from Einstein, a fraudster, and collects other people's money in a similar way.

Then, he come here to vent his frustration, resented and dreaming like in the play Les Miserables.

But Elaine Page did succeed being 47, at Britain Got Talent. Maybe, if he persist, still have a chance.

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin..
>
> He's not a Scientist
>
> He's not a Physicists
>
> He's not a Mathematician
>
> He's not a Philosopher
>
> He's just in fact...
>
> a woodworker, a carpenter..
>
> a maker of fine toys, tools, tables.
>

Now, the question you are probably asking is...

What about The Odd Bodkin 'interest' in Relativity?

The answer should be obvious...he's an enthusiast.

You know...just a hobby he picked up to get
his mind off his ...woodwork.

Look at how The Odd Bodkin occupies himself, he loves talking to cranks...it amuses him.

It's what.. entertains him.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 9:38:25 PM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:

<snip>

> Now, the question you are probably asking is...
>
> What about The Odd Bodkin 'interest' in Relativity?
>
> The answer should be obvious...he's an enthusiast.
>
> You know...just a hobby he picked up to get
> his mind off his ...woodwork.
>
> Look at how The Odd Bodkin occupies himself, he loves talking to cranks...it amuses him.
>
> It's what.. entertains him.

Mmmm......

Not so simple. Retired mathematician (not a physicist) --> Woodworker (not a physicist neither a mathematician) --> amateur physicist

The path is clear: Bodkin is a crank in disguise!

He knows he's an opinionated outsider: loves to be opinionated but knows the rejection here for anti-relativity posters.

So, he uses his "opinionated amateur wannabe physicist" costume just to plant his points of view without the burden of being mocked
by other relativists (not that they think he's a bright star).

But he knows he goes into muddy waters when writing about physics, so he raise his shields:

1) Deeply relativist (go Einstein, go).

2) "I've read 200 books about physics and I bought every single word."

3) Nobody here will touch Einstein's character or legacy.

His shields allow him to slip, stealthily, his own pet theories about whatever, which are forgiven because are conveniently disguised.

It's like in the movie "The Goodfather", where the traitor to the family is more than cooperative with the family, but carry treason within.

Bodkin is a crank in disguise, I tell you. It only takes to read several historic posts to see how he ventures with his own thoughts carefully.

Smart cretin.

On 11/28/2021 3:08 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin..
>
> He's not a Scientist
>
> He's not a Physicists
>
> He's not a Mathematician
>
> He's not a Philosopher
>
>
>
> He's just in fact...
>
> a woodworker, a carpenter..
>
>
> a maker of fine toys, tools, tables.
>
>
>

You forgot one thing. By all evidence, it appears that he has forgotten
more physics than you'll ever know.

On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 2:22:53 PM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:

> There is a distinction. Bodkin, posing as an artisan of a fine craft, charges you 10,000$ for a fucking table.

A custom table is only worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. If someone is willing to pay $10,000 for a table, then he is getting what he paid for... despite what you think, which is worthless in any case...

On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 6:04:55 PM UTC-8, Michael Moroney wrote:
> On 11/28/2021 3:08 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin..
> >
> > He's not a Scientist
> >
> > He's not a Physicists
> >
> > He's not a Mathematician
> >
> > He's not a Philosopher
> >
> >
> >
> > He's just in fact...
> >
> > a woodworker, a carpenter..
> >
> >
> > a maker of fine toys, tools, tables.
> >
> >
> >
> You forgot one thing. By all evidence, it appears that he has forgotten
> more physics than you'll ever know.

Without a doubt...

Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 5:53:12 PM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
>> Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>
>>> The Starmaker <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>> Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin..
>>>>
>>>> He's not a Scientist
>>>>
>>>> He's not a Physicists
>>>>
>>>> He's not a Mathematician
>>>>
>>>> He's not a Philosopher
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> He's just in fact...
>>>>
>>>> a woodworker, a carpenter..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> a maker of fine toys, tools, tables.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> All of this is true, except that a woodworker is distinct from a carpenter.
>> a worker in wood, as a carpenter, joiner, or cabinetmaker.
>>
>> a person who works in wood, such as a carpenter, joiner, or cabinet-maker
>> https://www.dictionary.com/browse/woodworker
>>
>>
>> I don't see the...distinction.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>> --
>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
>> the unchallengeable.
>
> There is a distinction. Bodkin, posing as an artisan of a fine craft,
> charges you 10,000$ for a fucking table.

Well, not every table. Only a very nice, very large, very well built, very
ornate table. With 18 chairs. Made from hardwood beech and West African
ebony. That one I charged $12,000 for.

>
> He, as the fraudster Einstein, sell his shit as an extreme conjunction of
> art, craft and absolute differential geometry.
>
> And the suckers fall for it, hypnotized by a product elaborated by a
> mathematician/philosopher.
>
> He's not different from Einstein, a fraudster, and collects other
> people's money in a similar way.

Well, actually that was commissioned work that I collected money for. I
took half up front to block my time.

You seem jealous.

>
> Then, he come here to vent his frustration, resented and dreaming like in
> the play Les Miserables.
>
> But Elaine Page did succeed being 47, at Britain Got Talent. Maybe, if he
> persist, still have a chance.
>
>

--
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote:
> Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 5:53:12 PM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The Starmaker <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>> Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin..
>>>>>
>>>>> He's not a Scientist
>>>>>
>>>>> He's not a Physicists
>>>>>
>>>>> He's not a Mathematician
>>>>>
>>>>> He's not a Philosopher
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> He's just in fact...
>>>>>
>>>>> a woodworker, a carpenter..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> a maker of fine toys, tools, tables.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All of this is true, except that a woodworker is distinct from a carpenter.
>>> a worker in wood, as a carpenter, joiner, or cabinetmaker.
>>>
>>> a person who works in wood, such as a carpenter, joiner, or cabinet-maker
>>> https://www.dictionary.com/browse/woodworker
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't see the...distinction.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>> --
>>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
>>> the unchallengeable.
>>
>> There is a distinction. Bodkin, posing as an artisan of a fine craft,
>> charges you 10,000$ for a fucking table.
>
> Well, not every table. Only a very nice, very large, very well built, very
> ornate table. With 18 chairs. Made from hardwood beech and West African
> ebony. That one I charged $12,000 for.

Sorry, that’s heartwood beech. Autocorrect’s too anxious.

>
>>
>> He, as the fraudster Einstein, sell his shit as an extreme conjunction of
>> art, craft and absolute differential geometry.
>>
>> And the suckers fall for it, hypnotized by a product elaborated by a
>> mathematician/philosopher.
>>
>> He's not different from Einstein, a fraudster, and collects other
>> people's money in a similar way.
>
> Well, actually that was commissioned work that I collected money for. I
> took half up front to block my time.
>
> You seem jealous.
>
>>
>> Then, he come here to vent his frustration, resented and dreaming like in
>> the play Les Miserables.
>>
>> But Elaine Page did succeed being 47, at Britain Got Talent. Maybe, if he
>> persist, still have a chance.
>>
>>
>
>
>

--
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

<snip>

> > Well, not every table. Only a very nice, very large, very well built, very
> > ornate table. With 18 chairs. Made from hardwood beech and West African
> > ebony. That one I charged $12,000 for.

> Sorry, that’s heartwood beech. Autocorrect’s too anxious.

Odd Bodkin, Woodworking Engineer, at your service.

Please show me your wallet and credit cards before continuing talking. Bodkin motto.

On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 7:57:39 PM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
> <snip>
> > > Well, not every table. Only a very nice, very large, very well built, very
> > > ornate table. With 18 chairs. Made from hardwood beech and West African
> > > ebony. That one I charged $12,000 for.
>
> > Sorry, that’s heartwood beech. Autocorrect’s too anxious.
> Odd Bodkin, Woodworking Engineer, at your service.
>
> Please show me your wallet and credit cards before continuing talking. Bodkin motto.

You now appear to be a green-eyed monster, Richard... and it is not very becoming...

On 11/28/2021 10:36 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> There is a distinction. Bodkin, posing as an artisan of a fine craft,
>>> charges you 10,000$ for a fucking table.
>>
>> Well, not every table. Only a very nice, very large, very well built, very
>> ornate table. With 18 chairs. Made from hardwood beech and West African
>> ebony. That one I charged $12,000 for.
>
> Sorry, that’s heartwood beech. Autocorrect’s too anxious.

Sounds nice! Pic?

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin..
> >
> > He's not a Scientist
> >
> > He's not a Physicists
> >
> > He's not a Mathematician
> >
> > He's not a Philosopher
> >
> > He's just in fact...
> >
> > a woodworker, a carpenter..
> >
> > a maker of fine toys, tools, tables.
> >
>
> Now, the question you are probably asking is...
>
> What about The Odd Bodkin 'interest' in Relativity?
>
> The answer should be obvious...he's an enthusiast.
>
> You know...just a hobby he picked up to get
> his mind off his ...woodwork.
>
> Look at how The Odd Bodkin occupies himself, he loves talking to cranks...it amuses him.
>
> It's what.. entertains him.

The Odd Bodkin is so immersed in physics textbooks that it becomes differcult for him to understand ideas that go away from the standard textbooks, or
differs what is found in most scientific textbooks. He is simply incapable of comprehending ideas that depart from textbooks because he is a self-taught textbook fanatic.

I mean, has the odd bodkin *ever* read a book? (besides conformed traditional scientific textbooks) (he seemed to have stumble on a relativity textbook)

(besides https://www.dummies.com/crafts/woodworking-for-dummies/)

The Odd Bodkin is a '''learn as you go''' student of relativity.

You get a sense he has to do research everytime he responds to a post.

'learn as you go'

There is a difference between 'knowing' something and 'reseaching' something...

he spends most of his time researching something because he...simply....doesn't....KNOW.

must be tiresome...

and all dat wood.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin..
>
> He's not a Scientist
>
> He's not a Physicists
>
> He's not a Mathematician
>
> He's not a Philosopher

Neither was Spinoza.
He was just a grinder of lenses,
and an instrument maker,

Jan

Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote:
> On 11/28/2021 10:36 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>> There is a distinction. Bodkin, posing as an artisan of a fine craft,
>>>> charges you 10,000$ for a fucking table.
>>>
>>> Well, not every table. Only a very nice, very large, very well built, very
>>> ornate table. With 18 chairs. Made from hardwood beech and West African
>>> ebony. That one I charged $12,000 for.
>>
>> Sorry, that’s heartwood beech. Autocorrect’s too anxious.
>
> Sounds nice! Pic?
>

I’ll keep that part of my life separate.

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

J. J. Lodder <nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> wrote:
> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>> Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin..
>>
>> He's not a Scientist
>>
>> He's not a Physicists
>>
>> He's not a Mathematician
>>
>> He's not a Philosopher
>
> Neither was Spinoza.
> He was just a grinder of lenses,
> and an instrument maker,
>
> Jan
>

Indeed.

There are those here, including Richard Hertz for example, who believe that
unless you pour your whole life into one interest and one occupation,
you’re a failure.

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Le 28/11/2021 à 21:08, The Starmaker a écrit :
> Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin..
>
> He's not a Scientist
>
> He's not a Physicists
>
> He's not a Mathematician
>
> He's not a Philosopher
>
>
>
> He's just in fact...
>
> a woodworker, a carpenter..
>
>
> a maker of fine toys, tools, tables.

Well ... Are you over your quarrels and childish whims?

R.H.

On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 3:08:51 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin..
>
> He's not a Scientist
>
> He's not a Physicists
>
> He's not a Mathematician
>
> He's not a Philosopher
>
>
>
> He's just in fact...
>
> a woodworker, a carpenter..
>
>
> a maker of fine toys, tools, tables.

Odd is Paul Draper, a failed physicist.
>
>
>
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

Ken Seto wrote:

>> a woodworker, a carpenter.. a maker of fine toys, tools, tables.
>
> Odd is Paul Draper, a failed physicist.

does not matter. You are still stealing theories, which makes you a
stinking thief and liar. And a charlatan.

Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 3:08:51 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
>> Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin..
>>
>> He's not a Scientist
>>
>> He's not a Physicists
>>
>> He's not a Mathematician
>>
>> He's not a Philosopher
>>
>>
>>
>> He's just in fact...
>>
>> a woodworker, a carpenter..
>>
>>
>> a maker of fine toys, tools, tables.
>
> Odd is Paul Draper, a failed physicist.

I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too
far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do
some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am?

>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
>> the unchallengeable.
>

--
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Odd Bodkin wrote:

>>> He's just in fact... a woodworker, a carpenter..
>>> a maker of fine toys, tools, tables.
>>
>> Odd is Paul Draper, a failed physicist.
>
> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not
> too far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He
> does do some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I
> am?

a woodworker then.

On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 8:31:42 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:

<snip>

> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too
> far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do
> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am?

Don't be so presumptuous, Bodkin. If you were a professor of philosophy, the students would beat the crap out of you
before you'd finished the first and, also, last class.

You're safe here, except for the crickets.