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 by: Paul Alsing - Tue, 30 Nov 2021 00:32 UTC

On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 3:31:42 PM UTC-8, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too
> far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do
> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am?

IIRC, PD was from somewhere in Texas and was/is a former college physics professor... but I might be wrong.

Bodkin, you would really enjoy PD, were he to be around again. I'm sure you can find his posts in the archives. In the meantime, here is something I found, as archived by Dirk Van de moortel...

http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Gems/OffTrack.html

.... it was addressed... "to those who find special relativity and quantum mechanics hard to swallow... You know who you are."

I urge those "who know who they are" to read this, too... and here is a large list of Dirk's "Immortal Gems" for your entertainment...

https://home.deds.nl/~dvdm/dirk/Physics/Gems/Bias.html

.... really good reading... especially for those of us who know what they don't know...

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On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 9:32:45 PM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote:

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> ... really good reading... especially for those of us who know what they don't know...

You don't know how much you don't know, so you know that you don't know. Hence, you don't know what they don't know.
Therefore, you know that you don't know what they don't know.

Your logic, as predictable, also fails.

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On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 5:04:49 PM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 9:32:45 PM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote:
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> <snip>
> > ... really good reading... especially for those of us who know what they don't know...
> You don't know how much you don't know, so you know that you don't know. Hence, you don't know what they don't know.
> Therefore, you know that you don't know what they don't know.
>
> Your logic, as predictable, also fails.

Well, I can claim, with 100% certainty, that you, Richard, absolutely do not know what you do not know! You are clueless.

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 by: The Starmaker - Tue, 30 Nov 2021 06:01 UTC

Paul Alsing wrote:
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> On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 5:04:49 PM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 9:32:45 PM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote:
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> > > ... really good reading... especially for those of us who know what they don't know...
> > You don't know how much you don't know, so you know that you don't know. Hence, you don't know what they don't know.
> > Therefore, you know that you don't know what they don't know.
> >
> > Your logic, as predictable, also fails.
>
> Well, I can claim, with 100% certainty, that you, Richard, absolutely do not know what you do not know! You are clueless.

the more you know
the more you forget
the more you forget
the less you know
the less you know
the less you forget

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

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On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 10:25:30 PM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote:

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> > > ... really good reading... especially for those of us who know what they don't know...

> > You don't know how much you don't know, so you know that you don't know. Hence, you don't know what they don't know.
> > Therefore, you know that you don't know what they don't know.
> >
> > Your logic, as predictable, also fails.

> Well, I can claim, with 100% certainty, that you, Richard, absolutely do not know what you do not know! You are clueless.

Mmmm...., but you followed my deductive path (it has a fallacy within).

Therefore, your 100% certainty in that you absolutely KNOW that I do not know what I do not know is a general rule.

I do not know what I do not know.
You do not know what you do not know.
He/she does not know what he/she does not know.
We do not know what we do not know.
You do not know what you do not know.
They do not know what they do not know.

Apply it to stock market values next Friday, Moon landing, Special Relativity, expansion of the known universe, actual value
of the charge of the electron when accelerated to (1-10E-10)c, Einstein cheated in Nov. 1915, the H bomb delivers 0.15 mc2,
gravitational waves are phenomenon detected by LIGO with no prior assumptions (petitio principii), Kardashian is the real deal,
galaxies beyond the edge of observable universe recedes faster than light, the gravitational constant G has the same value on
Earth than in any planet at the Andromeda's galaxy or even another farther away, length contraction is real but still undetected.

I could follow with this shit for one hour or more. I can make anything fit into the shadow of doubt.

Now, how do you respond to this generalization of your 100% certainty knowledge? How do you fit into the picture? And Bodkin, etc.?

See?. Always there is a reasonable margin of doubt that makes to talk about 100% of knowledge about something is for IMBECILES.

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On Tuesday, 30 November 2021 at 02:25:30 UTC+1, Paul Alsing wrote:
> On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 5:04:49 PM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 9:32:45 PM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> > > ... really good reading... especially for those of us who know what they don't know...
> > You don't know how much you don't know, so you know that you don't know. Hence, you don't know what they don't know.
> > Therefore, you know that you don't know what they don't know.
> >
> > Your logic, as predictable, also fails.
> Well, I can claim, with 100% certainty, that you, Richard, absolutely do not know what you do not know!

Unlike poor idiot Al and his fellow believers, knowing
everything what they don't know.

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 by: The Starmaker - Tue, 30 Nov 2021 07:53 UTC

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> Paul Alsing wrote:
> >
> > On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 5:04:49 PM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 9:32:45 PM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote:
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > > > ... really good reading... especially for those of us who know what they don't know...
> > > You don't know how much you don't know, so you know that you don't know. Hence, you don't know what they don't know.
> > > Therefore, you know that you don't know what they don't know.
> > >
> > > Your logic, as predictable, also fails.
> >
> > Well, I can claim, with 100% certainty, that you, Richard, absolutely do not know what you do not know! You are clueless.
>
> the more you know
> the more you forget
> the more you forget
> the less you know
> the less you know
> the less you forget

the less you forget
the more you know.

>
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

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On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 6:31:42 PM UTC-5, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 3:08:51 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin..
> >>
> >> He's not a Scientist
> >>
> >> He's not a Physicists
> >>
> >> He's not a Mathematician
> >>
> >> He's not a Philosopher
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> He's just in fact...
> >>
> >> a woodworker, a carpenter..
> >>
> >>
> >> a maker of fine toys, tools, tables.
> >
> > Odd is Paul Draper, a failed physicist.
> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too
> far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do
> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am?

PD disappeared and Odd Bodkin showed up. Both PD’s and Bodkin’s posts are similar.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> >> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> >> the unchallengeable.
> >
> --
> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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 by: Michael Moroney - Tue, 30 Nov 2021 15:53 UTC

On 11/30/2021 10:42 AM, Ken Seto wrote:
> On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 6:31:42 PM UTC-5, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>
>>> Odd is Paul Draper, a failed physicist.
>> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too
>> far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do
>> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am?
>
> PD disappeared and Odd Bodkin showed up. Both PD’s and Bodkin’s posts are similar.

Aha! Proof that Odd really is PD! PD disappeared and Odd showed up at
about the same time!! How could there be any other possibility!!!

It's been a while since I've heard the crackpot song that every
relativity supporter just has to be PD in disguise. They can't deal with
the possibility that multiple people could agree with SR/GR and with
each other.

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 by: Odd Bodkin - Tue, 30 Nov 2021 16:22 UTC

Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 6:31:42 PM UTC-5, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 3:08:51 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin..
>>>>
>>>> He's not a Scientist
>>>>
>>>> He's not a Physicists
>>>>
>>>> He's not a Mathematician
>>>>
>>>> He's not a Philosopher
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> He's just in fact...
>>>>
>>>> a woodworker, a carpenter..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> a maker of fine toys, tools, tables.
>>>
>>> Odd is Paul Draper, a failed physicist.
>> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too
>> far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do
>> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am?
>
> PD disappeared and Odd Bodkin showed up. Both PD’s and Bodkin’s posts are similar.

Doesn’t answer my question. Is this the Paul Draper you’re thinking of? If
it is, we can just ask him.

>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>>>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
>>>> the unchallengeable.
>>>
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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 by: The Starmaker - Tue, 30 Nov 2021 18:50 UTC

Ken Seto wrote:
>
> On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 6:31:42 PM UTC-5, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 3:08:51 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >> Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin..
> > >>
> > >> He's not a Scientist
> > >>
> > >> He's not a Physicists
> > >>
> > >> He's not a Mathematician
> > >>
> > >> He's not a Philosopher
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> He's just in fact...
> > >>
> > >> a woodworker, a carpenter..
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> a maker of fine toys, tools, tables.
> > >
> > > Odd is Paul Draper, a failed physicist.
> > I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too
> > far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do
> > some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am?
>
> PD disappeared and Odd Bodkin showed up. Both PD’s and Bodkin’s posts are similar.

"Similarities? Similarities? Try theft."

--
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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
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 by: The Starmaker - Tue, 30 Nov 2021 18:56 UTC

Odd Bodkin wrote:
>
> Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 3:08:51 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin..
> >>
> >> He's not a Scientist
> >>
> >> He's not a Physicists
> >>
> >> He's not a Mathematician
> >>
> >> He's not a Philosopher
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> He's just in fact...
> >>
> >> a woodworker, a carpenter..
> >>
> >>
> >> a maker of fine toys, tools, tables.
> >
> > Odd is Paul Draper, a failed physicist.
>
> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too
> far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do
> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am?

Paul Draper is a skinny white guy around the age of in his 40's...maybe
39... or late 30's.

He's gotta be able to pick up a hammar.

>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> >> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> >> the unchallengeable.
> >
>
> --
> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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the unchallengeable.

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 by: The Starmaker - Tue, 30 Nov 2021 19:22 UTC

Odd Bodkin wrote:
>
> Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 3:08:51 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin..
> >>
> >> He's not a Scientist
> >>
> >> He's not a Physicists
> >>
> >> He's not a Mathematician
> >>
> >> He's not a Philosopher
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> He's just in fact...
> >>
> >> a woodworker, a carpenter..
> >>
> >>
> >> a maker of fine toys, tools, tables.
> >
> > Odd is Paul Draper, a failed physicist.
>
> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too
> far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do
> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am?

there are no gods in Ohio...

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.

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 by: Odd Bodkin - Tue, 30 Nov 2021 19:30 UTC

The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>
>> Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 3:08:51 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin..
>>>>
>>>> He's not a Scientist
>>>>
>>>> He's not a Physicists
>>>>
>>>> He's not a Mathematician
>>>>
>>>> He's not a Philosopher
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> He's just in fact...
>>>>
>>>> a woodworker, a carpenter..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> a maker of fine toys, tools, tables.
>>>
>>> Odd is Paul Draper, a failed physicist.
>>
>> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too
>> far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do
>> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am?
>
>
> Paul Draper is a skinny white guy around the age of in his 40's...maybe
> 39... or late 30's.

Well, that doesn’t seem to fit either.

>
>
> He's gotta be able to pick up a hammar.
>
>
>
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>>>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
>>>> the unchallengeable.
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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 by: Michael Moroney - Tue, 30 Nov 2021 19:42 UTC

On 11/30/2021 11:22 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 6:31:42 PM UTC-5, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 3:08:51 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin..
>>>>>
>>>>> He's not a Scientist
>>>>>
>>>>> He's not a Physicists
>>>>>
>>>>> He's not a Mathematician
>>>>>
>>>>> He's not a Philosopher
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> He's just in fact...
>>>>>
>>>>> a woodworker, a carpenter..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> a maker of fine toys, tools, tables.
>>>>
>>>> Odd is Paul Draper, a failed physicist.
>>> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too
>>> far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do
>>> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am?
>>
>> PD disappeared and Odd Bodkin showed up. Both PD’s and Bodkin’s posts are similar.
>
> Doesn’t answer my question. Is this the Paul Draper you’re thinking of? If
> it is, we can just ask him.
>
A search turns up some 200+ Paul Drapers in the US. Fewer, actually,
since some of them are old addresses of another entry.
I vaguely remember "our" Paul Draper was involved in textbook publishing
somehow.

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 by: Richard Hertz - Tue, 30 Nov 2021 19:44 UTC

On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 4:30:29 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:

<snip>

> >> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too
> >> far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do
> >> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am?
> >
> >
> > Paul Draper is a skinny white guy around the age of in his 40's...maybe
> > 39... or late 30's.

> Well, that doesn’t seem to fit either.

Wait a minute! You're 42, almost the same age than the other asshole, Dono.

It means that: You are fat or you're not Caucasian. Are you an Spanish or Asian descendant?

Because it can explain a lot, specially if your roots are Korean.

It fits better with your personality traits. Also if you are fat or bald or short.

I put all of this together: You are a 42 y.o. fat, bold Korean descendant (short comes with the package).

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 by: The Starmaker - Tue, 30 Nov 2021 20:00 UTC

Odd Bodkin wrote:
>
> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>
> >> Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 3:08:51 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>> Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin..
> >>>>
> >>>> He's not a Scientist
> >>>>
> >>>> He's not a Physicists
> >>>>
> >>>> He's not a Mathematician
> >>>>
> >>>> He's not a Philosopher
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> He's just in fact...
> >>>>
> >>>> a woodworker, a carpenter..
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> a maker of fine toys, tools, tables.
> >>>
> >>> Odd is Paul Draper, a failed physicist.
> >>
> >> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too
> >> far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do
> >> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am?
> >
> >
> > Paul Draper is a skinny white guy around the age of in his 40's...maybe
> > 39... or late 30's.
>
> Well, that doesn’t seem to fit either.

fit either what?

>
> >
> >
> > He's gotta be able to pick up a hammar.
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> >>>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> >>>> the unchallengeable.
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> >
>
> --
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.

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 by: Odd Bodkin - Tue, 30 Nov 2021 20:35 UTC

Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 4:30:29 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>>>> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too
>>>> far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do
>>>> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am?
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul Draper is a skinny white guy around the age of in his 40's...maybe
>>> 39... or late 30's.
>
>> Well, that doesn’t seem to fit either.
>
> Wait a minute! You're 42, almost the same age than the other asshole, Dono.

I’m curious how you came up with that age number.

I’m also curious WHY you felt it worthwhile to come up with that age
number.

>
> It means that: You are fat

Well, fat and skinny do not form an exhaustive set of possibilities, does
it? (You haven’t asked me how much I bench.)

> or you're not Caucasian. Are you an Spanish or Asian descendant?

Again, Caucasian, Asian, Hispanic does not map over the whole ethnicity
space.

>
> Because it can explain a lot, specially if your roots are Korean.
>
> It fits better with your personality traits. Also if you are fat or bald or short.
>
> I put all of this together: You are a 42 y.o. fat, bold Korean descendant
> (short comes with the package).
>
>
>

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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 by: Richard Hertz - Tue, 30 Nov 2021 20:59 UTC

On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 5:35:30 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 4:30:29 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> >>>> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too
> >>>> far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do
> >>>> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Paul Draper is a skinny white guy around the age of in his 40's...maybe
> >>> 39... or late 30's.
> >
> >> Well, that doesn’t seem to fit either.
> >
> > Wait a minute! You're 42, almost the same age than the other asshole, Dono.
> I’m curious how you came up with that age number.
>
> I’m also curious WHY you felt it worthwhile to come up with that age
> number.
> >
> > It means that: You are fat
> Well, fat and skinny do not form an exhaustive set of possibilities, does
> it? (You haven’t asked me how much I bench.)
> > or you're not Caucasian. Are you an Spanish or Asian descendant?
> Again, Caucasian, Asian, Hispanic does not map over the whole ethnicity
> space.
> >
> > Because it can explain a lot, specially if your roots are Korean.
> >
> > It fits better with your personality traits. Also if you are fat or bald or short.
> >
> > I put all of this together: You are a 42 y.o. fat, bold Korean descendant
> > (short comes with the package).
> >
> >
> >
> --
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Are you black, then? There are not so many general types of ethnicity, because I discard that you aren't Indian descendant.

As far as I know, Indian jews are very few and I don't believe that your family came from a tribe at Papua New Guinea or are Eskimo.

Noo, are you an Skimo? I'd never would think that. The case of being space alien is left exclusively to Dono, the reptilian lifeform.

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 by: Odd Bodkin - Tue, 30 Nov 2021 21:25 UTC

Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 5:35:30 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 4:30:29 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>>>> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too
>>>>>> far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do
>>>>>> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul Draper is a skinny white guy around the age of in his 40's...maybe
>>>>> 39... or late 30's.
>>>
>>>> Well, that doesn’t seem to fit either.
>>>
>>> Wait a minute! You're 42, almost the same age than the other asshole, Dono.
>> I’m curious how you came up with that age number.
>>
>> I’m also curious WHY you felt it worthwhile to come up with that age
>> number.
>>>
>>> It means that: You are fat
>> Well, fat and skinny do not form an exhaustive set of possibilities, does
>> it? (You haven’t asked me how much I bench.)
>>> or you're not Caucasian. Are you an Spanish or Asian descendant?
>> Again, Caucasian, Asian, Hispanic does not map over the whole ethnicity
>> space.
>>>
>>> Because it can explain a lot, specially if your roots are Korean.
>>>
>>> It fits better with your personality traits. Also if you are fat or bald or short.
>>>
>>> I put all of this together: You are a 42 y.o. fat, bold Korean descendant
>>> (short comes with the package).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>
> Are you black, then? There are not so many general types of ethnicity,
> because I discard that you aren't Indian descendant.
>
> As far as I know, Indian jews are very few and I don't believe that your
> family came from a tribe at Papua New Guinea or are Eskimo.
>
> Noo, are you an Skimo? I'd never would think that. The case of being
> space alien is left exclusively to Dono, the reptilian lifeform.
>
>

Jiminy, Richard, I’ll just let this sit there and outgas for a while. Maybe
there should be an orange cone near it to keep people from stepping in it.

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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 by: The Starmaker - Tue, 30 Nov 2021 22:07 UTC

Michael Moroney wrote:
>
> On 11/30/2021 11:22 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> > Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 6:31:42 PM UTC-5, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 3:08:51 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>> Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin..
> >>>>>
> >>>>> He's not a Scientist
> >>>>>
> >>>>> He's not a Physicists
> >>>>>
> >>>>> He's not a Mathematician
> >>>>>
> >>>>> He's not a Philosopher
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> He's just in fact...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> a woodworker, a carpenter..
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> a maker of fine toys, tools, tables.
> >>>>
> >>>> Odd is Paul Draper, a failed physicist.
> >>> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too
> >>> far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do
> >>> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am?
> >>
> >> PD disappeared and Odd Bodkin showed up. Both PD’s and Bodkin’s posts are similar.
> >
> > Doesn’t answer my question. Is this the Paul Draper you’re thinking of? If
> > it is, we can just ask him.
> >
> A search turns up some 200+ Paul Drapers in the US. Fewer, actually,
> since some of them are old addresses of another entry.
> I vaguely remember "our" Paul Draper was involved in textbook publishing
> somehow.

TEXTBOOK PUBLISHING???? NO WAY!!

He's a carpenter like Jesus Christ! from the bod of godd

technical writer for sure...

monopoly textbook publishers

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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
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 by: The Starmaker - Tue, 30 Nov 2021 22:09 UTC

Odd Bodkin wrote:
>
> Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 4:30:29 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> >>>> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too
> >>>> far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do
> >>>> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Paul Draper is a skinny white guy around the age of in his 40's...maybe
> >>> 39... or late 30's.
> >
> >> Well, that doesn’t seem to fit either.
> >
> > Wait a minute! You're 42, almost the same age than the other asshole, Dono.
>
> I’m curious how you came up with that age number.

41 to be exact.

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 by: The Starmaker - Tue, 30 Nov 2021 22:14 UTC

Richard Hertz wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 5:35:30 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 4:30:29 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > >>>> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too
> > >>>> far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do
> > >>>> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Paul Draper is a skinny white guy around the age of in his 40's...maybe
> > >>> 39... or late 30's.
> > >
> > >> Well, that doesn’t seem to fit either.
> > >
> > > Wait a minute! You're 42, almost the same age than the other asshole, Dono.
> > I’m curious how you came up with that age number.
> >
> > I’m also curious WHY you felt it worthwhile to come up with that age
> > number.
> > >
> > > It means that: You are fat
> > Well, fat and skinny do not form an exhaustive set of possibilities, does
> > it? (You haven’t asked me how much I bench.)
> > > or you're not Caucasian. Are you an Spanish or Asian descendant?
> > Again, Caucasian, Asian, Hispanic does not map over the whole ethnicity
> > space.
> > >
> > > Because it can explain a lot, specially if your roots are Korean.
> > >
> > > It fits better with your personality traits. Also if you are fat or bald or short.
> > >
> > > I put all of this together: You are a 42 y.o. fat, bold Korean descendant
> > > (short comes with the package).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > --
> > Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>
> Are you black, then? There are not so many general types of ethnicity, because I discard that you aren't Indian descendant.
>
> As far as I know, Indian jews are very few

"Indian jews are very few "???? Are you kidding? ALL AMERICAN INDIAN
TRIBES ARE IN FACT...JEWISH.

dats why they are always on the war path.

you want proof, i can give you proof..

unless you talkin about the country India? then nevermind.

Long Live India! Long Live 7/11.

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 by: Odd Bodkin - Tue, 30 Nov 2021 22:21 UTC

The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Michael Moroney wrote:
>>
>> On 11/30/2021 11:22 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>> Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 6:31:42 PM UTC-5, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 3:08:51 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>> Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He's not a Scientist
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He's not a Physicists
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He's not a Mathematician
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He's not a Philosopher
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He's just in fact...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a woodworker, a carpenter..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a maker of fine toys, tools, tables.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Odd is Paul Draper, a failed physicist.
>>>>> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too
>>>>> far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do
>>>>> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am?
>>>>
>>>> PD disappeared and Odd Bodkin showed up. Both PD’s and Bodkin’s posts are similar.
>>>
>>> Doesn’t answer my question. Is this the Paul Draper you’re thinking of? If
>>> it is, we can just ask him.
>>>
>> A search turns up some 200+ Paul Drapers in the US. Fewer, actually,
>> since some of them are old addresses of another entry.
>> I vaguely remember "our" Paul Draper was involved in textbook publishing
>> somehow.
>
> TEXTBOOK PUBLISHING???? NO WAY!!

Yeah, not the business I’m in.

>
> He's a carpenter like Jesus Christ! from the bod of godd
>
>
> technical writer for sure...

Nah, that’s a whole different discipline.

>
>
> monopoly textbook publishers

Monopoly? There’s a boatload of competing publishers, how can there be a
monopoly? It’s like car makers. Are all the dozens of carmakers monopolies
if only the carmakers make cars?

>
>
>
>
>

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Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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 by: Richard Hertz - Tue, 30 Nov 2021 23:47 UTC

On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 7:13:52 PM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
> Richard Hertz wrote:
> >
> > On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 5:35:30 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 4:30:29 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > <snip>
> > > >
> > > >>>> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too
> > > >>>> far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do
> > > >>>> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Paul Draper is a skinny white guy around the age of in his 40's....maybe
> > > >>> 39... or late 30's.
> > > >
> > > >> Well, that doesn’t seem to fit either.
> > > >
> > > > Wait a minute! You're 42, almost the same age than the other asshole, Dono.
> > > I’m curious how you came up with that age number.
> > >
> > > I’m also curious WHY you felt it worthwhile to come up with that age
> > > number.
> > > >
> > > > It means that: You are fat
> > > Well, fat and skinny do not form an exhaustive set of possibilities, does
> > > it? (You haven’t asked me how much I bench.)
> > > > or you're not Caucasian. Are you an Spanish or Asian descendant?
> > > Again, Caucasian, Asian, Hispanic does not map over the whole ethnicity
> > > space.
> > > >
> > > > Because it can explain a lot, specially if your roots are Korean.
> > > >
> > > > It fits better with your personality traits. Also if you are fat or bald or short.
> > > >
> > > > I put all of this together: You are a 42 y.o. fat, bold Korean descendant
> > > > (short comes with the package).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > --
> > > Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> >
> > Are you black, then? There are not so many general types of ethnicity, because I discard that you aren't Indian descendant.
> >
> > As far as I know, Indian jews are very few
> "Indian jews are very few "???? Are you kidding? ALL AMERICAN INDIAN
> TRIBES ARE IN FACT...JEWISH.
>
> dats why they are always on the war path.
>
>
> you want proof, i can give you proof..
>
> unless you talkin about the country India? then nevermind.
>
> Long Live India! Long Live 7/11.
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

T
The country India.

But I drop the topic, because Bodkin got mad.

Any dart did hit his leg and now he's limping? We'll never know (for the rest of the day/week).

But he could give me a hint: What colors are your eyes, Bodkin?


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