On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 1:42:07 PM UTC-6, Michael Moroney wrote:

> I vaguely remember "our" Paul Draper was involved in textbook publishing
> somehow.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/pauldraper

A fairly impressive resume! Besides his professional
accomplishments, I'm quite struck by his long-term
volunteer work.

On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 3:56:22 PM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
<snip>

> > I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too
> > far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor.. He does do
> > some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am?

> Paul Draper is a skinny white guy around the age of in his 40's...maybe
> 39... or late 30's.

Mmmm.......

PD was prone to post the wrong math, the wrong physics and the wrong wording.

Bodkin, since his new skin by 2014, has AVOIDED LIKE HELL to post math things or being strong on wrong physics.
He's attached to "his 100 books in physics" exclusively, but there is A PATTERN on his wording. Read some PD insights (2013):

********** Feb 24, 2012

It might not look like it to you or me, but it looks enough like
science to young and unfamiliar minds that it's important to make the distinction.
You don't see people confused about creationism being science? I do.
You think that if science teachers never mention creationism, young
students will learn that everything that isn't mentioned isn't science? I don't.

********** Feb 24, 2012

The Standard Model of fundamental interactions has evidence and string
theory doesn't. Which one is science?
Demarcation is NOT as simple as you would like it to be.
Creationism *claims* to have evidence (even if it doesn't), and young
minds just hear the words at high level. The only way they're going to
be assured what the difference is by having a look at the *kind* and
*quality* of the evidentiary claims.

********** Dec 22, 2011

Making a statement that is counter to century-old experimental facts and
capitalizing it isn't an innovation. It's called making a mistake.

********** Nov 9, 2011

Of course the beautiful thing about the moronity scale is that it has an
inversion transform. No doubt you are familiar with it.

Under this transformation, someone like you can be faced with something
that you don't understand, and invert that condition so that you are the
ONLY one that truly understands it. In this way, you become the ONLY one
that truly understands Snell's law, the ONLY one that truly understands
the Lorentz transform, the ONLY one that understands gravitational
lensing. And pretty soon, instead of feeling moronic, you're referring
to yourself in the third person with capitalized pronouns.

-----------------

I didn't want to post his posts with math, but it may serve as a guide that PD was selected
as the Moron of the Year for two consecutive years: 2011 and 2012.

After a series of attacks upon PD here, the guy vanished and, few months later, Bodkin did make his entrance
in a humble way:

"May I chip something in?" and started a new career here, in which we can observe his personal growth as
a VERY CAUTIOUS forum member, slowly raising from the "water kid" in 2014 up to the "Supreme Thinker" by 2020.

Even when claim having a BsC on math, don't dream to have any answer if you ask him for mathematical proofs or
reading him posting things with mathematical content. Isn't it weird?

Either you love mathematics or you hate it. Is that Bodkin is a renegade of faith in his mathematics and preferred to rely
on the mathematics of the one he worship (Einstein)?

At least, Dono fights with mathematics and MATHEMATICA SW, even when he fails doing the first and using the 2nd.

On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 9:52:31 PM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:

> At least, Dono fights with mathematics

....and you get a fresh asshole ripped every time. Keep it up, dumbestfuck

On Sun, 28 Nov 2021 12:08:45 -0800, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin..
>
>He's not a Scientist
>
>He's not a Physicists
>
>He's not a Mathematician
>
>He's not a Philosopher
>
>
>
>He's just in fact...
>
>a woodworker, a carpenter..
>
>
>a maker of fine toys, tools, tables.

"Why, if a fish came to me, and
told me he was going on a journey, ...
I should say, 'With what porpoise?'
"Don't you mean 'purpose'?" said Alice.
"I mean what I say," the Mock Turtle replied in an offended tone.

There's a Rainbow around my shoulder
And a sky of blue above
And I'm shouting so the world will know
That I'm in love

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7zMsELU_eM

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >
> > Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 4:30:29 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > >>>> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too
> > >>>> far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do
> > >>>> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Paul Draper is a skinny white guy around the age of in his 40's...maybe
> > >>> 39... or late 30's.
> > >
> > >> Well, that doesn’t seem to fit either.
> > >
> > > Wait a minute! You're 42, almost the same age than the other asshole, Dono.
> >
> > I’m curious how you came up with that age number.
>
> 41 to be exact.

but i could be ...20 years off.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> On Sun, 28 Nov 2021 12:08:45 -0800, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> >Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin..
> >
> >He's not a Scientist
> >
> >He's not a Physicists
> >
> >He's not a Mathematician
> >
> >He's not a Philosopher
> >
> >
> >
> >He's just in fact...
> >
> >a woodworker, a carpenter..
> >
> >
> >a maker of fine toys, tools, tables.
>
> "Why, if a fish came to me, and
> told me he was going on a journey, ...
> I should say, 'With what porpoise?'
> "Don't you mean 'purpose'?" said Alice.
> "I mean what I say," the Mock Turtle replied in an offended tone.

There is no way in hell that the odd bodkin would ask "What does that mean?"

>
> There's a Rainbow around my shoulder
> And a sky of blue above
> And I'm shouting so the world will know
> That I'm in love
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7zMsELU_eM

and no way will he ask about this..

>
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Odd Bodkin wrote:
> > >
> > > Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 4:30:29 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > <snip>
> > > >
> > > >>>> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too
> > > >>>> far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do
> > > >>>> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Paul Draper is a skinny white guy around the age of in his 40's...maybe
> > > >>> 39... or late 30's.
> > > >
> > > >> Well, that doesn’t seem to fit either.
> > > >
> > > > Wait a minute! You're 42, almost the same age than the other asshole, Dono.
> > >
> > > I’m curious how you came up with that age number.
> >
> > 41 to be exact.
>
> but i could be ...20 years off.

more likely off by 24 years.

wait a minute...how much is 41 + 24? 4 and 1 is 5

4 and 2 is 6...65????

how can a person be a carpenter at 65????

and most carpenters don't even have a high school diploma...

something not adding up here.

Did Lois Lane ever find out Superman's real idenity????

>
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

Odd Bodkin wrote:
>
> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > Michael Moroney wrote:
> >>
> >> On 11/30/2021 11:22 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>> Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 6:31:42 PM UTC-5, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 3:08:51 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>> Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin..
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> He's not a Scientist
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> He's not a Physicists
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> He's not a Mathematician
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> He's not a Philosopher
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> He's just in fact...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> a woodworker, a carpenter..
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> a maker of fine toys, tools, tables.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Odd is Paul Draper, a failed physicist.
> >>>>> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too
> >>>>> far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do
> >>>>> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am?
> >>>>
> >>>> PD disappeared and Odd Bodkin showed up. Both PD’s and Bodkin’s posts are similar.
> >>>
> >>> Doesn’t answer my question. Is this the Paul Draper you’re thinking of? If
> >>> it is, we can just ask him.
> >>>
> >> A search turns up some 200+ Paul Drapers in the US. Fewer, actually,
> >> since some of them are old addresses of another entry.
> >> I vaguely remember "our" Paul Draper was involved in textbook publishing
> >> somehow.
> >
> > TEXTBOOK PUBLISHING???? NO WAY!!
>
> Yeah, not the business I’m in.
>
> >
> > He's a carpenter like Jesus Christ! from the bod of godd
> >
> >
> > technical writer for sure...
>
> Nah, that’s a whole different discipline.
>
> >
> >
> > monopoly textbook publishers
>
> Monopoly? There’s a boatload of competing publishers, how can there be a
> monopoly?

I get it. I understand. You're not familiar with monopoly textbook
publishers.

https://writing.ucsc.edu/RothmanAwards/2017/Lao_Natan_Textbook-Monopoly.pdf
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2015/10/21/college-textbooks-are-a-racket/
http://isu.indstate.edu/guell/ecn100_004/Textbooks.pdf
come on already, there's tons of this stuff...

>It's like car makers. Are all the dozens of carmakers monopolies
> if only the carmakers make cars?

You're talking about cars now???? I'm willing to bet that Elon Musk will
be the next John Deloren
when people find out the Tesla car is drainging his money. He already
sold another billion in Tesla shares
https://www.freep.com/story/money/business/michigan/2021/11/20/elon-musk-sells-tesla-shares-pay-taxes-stock-options/8651733002/

He needs money just like John Deloren did.
You are going to wake up soon and there won't be any Tesla.
soon..
He cannot sell cars if he doesn't have money to make cars.
He might as well sell cocaine.
'Stay away from his bitcoin advise.' if he sez buy, then sell.

>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.

The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>
>>> Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 4:30:29 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too
>>>>>>>> far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do
>>>>>>>> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul Draper is a skinny white guy around the age of in his 40's...maybe
>>>>>>> 39... or late 30's.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, that doesn’t seem to fit either.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wait a minute! You're 42, almost the same age than the other asshole, Dono.
>>>>
>>>> I’m curious how you came up with that age number.
>>>
>>> 41 to be exact.
>>
>> but i could be ...20 years off.
>
>
> more likely off by 24 years.
>
> wait a minute...how much is 41 + 24? 4 and 1 is 5
>
> 4 and 2 is 6...65????
>
> how can a person be a carpenter at 65????
>
> and most carpenters don't even have a high school diploma...
>
>
> something not adding up here.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Did Lois Lane ever find out Superman's real idenity????
>
>
>>
>> --
>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>> and challenge
>> the unchallengeable.
>

Where on earth did you get 65?

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Odd Bodkin wrote:
>
> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> >>
> >> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 4:30:29 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> <snip>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too
> >>>>>>>> far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do
> >>>>>>>> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Paul Draper is a skinny white guy around the age of in his 40's...maybe
> >>>>>>> 39... or late 30's.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Well, that doesn’t seem to fit either.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Wait a minute! You're 42, almost the same age than the other asshole, Dono.
> >>>>
> >>>> I’m curious how you came up with that age number.
> >>>
> >>> 41 to be exact.
> >>
> >> but i could be ...20 years off.
> >
> >
> > more likely off by 24 years.
> >
> > wait a minute...how much is 41 + 24? 4 and 1 is 5
> >
> > 4 and 2 is 6...65????
> >
> > how can a person be a carpenter at 65????
> >
> > and most carpenters don't even have a high school diploma...
> >
> >
> > something not adding up here.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Did Lois Lane ever find out Superman's real idenity????
> >
> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> >> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> >> and challenge
> >> the unchallengeable.
> >
>
> Where on earth did you get 65?

BINGO, right? I knew that number 65 would get your attention.

"Where on earth did you get 65?"

What you are really asking is is how did I get that number 65?

So that you can find it on the Internet and take it down.

You don't want me to answer that question here, do you?

That would mean 1956.

September.

I guess you didn't get this quote:

> "Why, if a fish came to me, and
> told me he was going on a journey, ...
> I should say, 'With what porpoise?'
> "Don't you mean 'purpose'?" said Alice.
> "I mean what I say," the Mock Turtle replied in an offended tone.

It simply is a quote from Linda Goodman Sun Signs: The Virgo Man

September. Virgo.

You tripped up on this thread..
you made *too much* effort correcting a
misspelling of the word "hardwood" to "heartwood".

You were too busy 'covering up' your cover.

and my little funny math:
--
wait a minute...how much is 41 + 24? 4 and 1 is 5

4 and 2 is 6...65????
--

was just a trick to see what your response would be
to seeing that number..65.

AND IT WORKED!

"Where on earth did you get 65?"

BINGO!

i watch a lot of Colombo tv shows
like when he put the stolen jewelry under his
own mattress.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>
>> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 4:30:29 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at
>>>>>>>>>> Purdue University, not too
>>>>>>>>>> far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a
>>>>>>>>>> philosophy professor. He does do
>>>>>>>>>> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Paul Draper is a skinny white guy around the age of in his 40's...maybe
>>>>>>>>> 39... or late 30's.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, that doesn’t seem to fit either.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wait a minute! You're 42, almost the same age than the other asshole, Dono.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’m curious how you came up with that age number.
>>>>>
>>>>> 41 to be exact.
>>>>
>>>> but i could be ...20 years off.
>>>
>>>
>>> more likely off by 24 years.
>>>
>>> wait a minute...how much is 41 + 24? 4 and 1 is 5
>>>
>>> 4 and 2 is 6...65????
>>>
>>> how can a person be a carpenter at 65????
>>>
>>> and most carpenters don't even have a high school diploma...
>>>
>>>
>>> something not adding up here.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Did Lois Lane ever find out Superman's real idenity????
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>>>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>>>> and challenge
>>>> the unchallengeable.
>>>
>>
>> Where on earth did you get 65?
>
>
> BINGO, right? I knew that number 65 would get your attention.
>
> "Where on earth did you get 65?"
>
> What you are really asking is is how did I get that number 65?
>
> So that you can find it on the Internet and take it down.
>
> You don't want me to answer that question here, do you?
>
> That would mean 1956.
>
> September.
>
> I guess you didn't get this quote:
>
>> "Why, if a fish came to me, and
>> told me he was going on a journey, ...
>> I should say, 'With what porpoise?'
>> "Don't you mean 'purpose'?" said Alice.
>> "I mean what I say," the Mock Turtle replied in an offended tone.
>
> It simply is a quote from Linda Goodman Sun Signs: The Virgo Man
>
> September. Virgo.
>
> You tripped up on this thread..
> you made *too much* effort correcting a
> misspelling of the word "hardwood" to "heartwood".
>
> You were too busy 'covering up' your cover.
>
>
> and my little funny math:
> --
> wait a minute...how much is 41 + 24? 4 and 1 is 5
>
> 4 and 2 is 6...65????
> --
>
> was just a trick to see what your response would be
> to seeing that number..65.
>
> AND IT WORKED!
>
> "Where on earth did you get 65?"
>
>
>
> BINGO!
>
>
> i watch a lot of Colombo tv shows
> like when he put the stolen jewelry under his
> own mattress.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Poor confused soul.

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Odd Bodkin wrote:
>
> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>
> >> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 4:30:29 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> <snip>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at
> >>>>>>>>>> Purdue University, not too
> >>>>>>>>>> far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a
> >>>>>>>>>> philosophy professor. He does do
> >>>>>>>>>> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Paul Draper is a skinny white guy around the age of in his 40's...maybe
> >>>>>>>>> 39... or late 30's.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Well, that doesn’t seem to fit either.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Wait a minute! You're 42, almost the same age than the other asshole, Dono.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I’m curious how you came up with that age number.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 41 to be exact.
> >>>>
> >>>> but i could be ...20 years off.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> more likely off by 24 years.
> >>>
> >>> wait a minute...how much is 41 + 24? 4 and 1 is 5
> >>>
> >>> 4 and 2 is 6...65????
> >>>
> >>> how can a person be a carpenter at 65????
> >>>
> >>> and most carpenters don't even have a high school diploma...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> something not adding up here.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Did Lois Lane ever find out Superman's real idenity????
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> >>>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> >>>> and challenge
> >>>> the unchallengeable.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Where on earth did you get 65?
> >
> >
> > BINGO, right? I knew that number 65 would get your attention.
> >
> > "Where on earth did you get 65?"
> >
> > What you are really asking is is how did I get that number 65?
> >
> > So that you can find it on the Internet and take it down.
> >
> > You don't want me to answer that question here, do you?
> >
> > That would mean 1956.
> >
> > September.
> >
> > I guess you didn't get this quote:
> >
> >> "Why, if a fish came to me, and
> >> told me he was going on a journey, ...
> >> I should say, 'With what porpoise?'
> >> "Don't you mean 'purpose'?" said Alice.
> >> "I mean what I say," the Mock Turtle replied in an offended tone.
> >
> > It simply is a quote from Linda Goodman Sun Signs: The Virgo Man
> >
> > September. Virgo.
> >
> > You tripped up on this thread..
> > you made *too much* effort correcting a
> > misspelling of the word "hardwood" to "heartwood".
> >
> > You were too busy 'covering up' your cover.
> >
> >
> > and my little funny math:
> > --
> > wait a minute...how much is 41 + 24? 4 and 1 is 5
> >
> > 4 and 2 is 6...65????
> > --
> >
> > was just a trick to see what your response would be
> > to seeing that number..65.
> >
> > AND IT WORKED!
> >
> > "Where on earth did you get 65?"
> >
> >
> >
> > BINGO!
> >
> >
> > i watch a lot of Colombo tv shows
> > like when he put the stolen jewelry under his
> > own mattress.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Poor confused soul.

the Mock Turtle replied in an offended tone...

"confused"???? What confusion is there?

41 + 24 = 65
41 plus 24 equals 65

No confusion there...

I even checked with a calculator, I got the same answer 65.

So, ...why did you ask "Where on earth did you get 65?"????

Does the number 65 have any special meaning to you?

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>
>> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>> Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 4:30:29 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at
>>>>>>>>>>>> Purdue University, not too
>>>>>>>>>>>> far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a
>>>>>>>>>>>> philosophy professor. He does do
>>>>>>>>>>>> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Draper is a skinny white guy around the age of in his 40's...maybe
>>>>>>>>>>> 39... or late 30's.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well, that doesn’t seem to fit either.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wait a minute! You're 42, almost the same age than the other asshole, Dono.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I’m curious how you came up with that age number.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 41 to be exact.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> but i could be ...20 years off.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> more likely off by 24 years.
>>>>>
>>>>> wait a minute...how much is 41 + 24? 4 and 1 is 5
>>>>>
>>>>> 4 and 2 is 6...65????
>>>>>
>>>>> how can a person be a carpenter at 65????
>>>>>
>>>>> and most carpenters don't even have a high school diploma...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> something not adding up here.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Did Lois Lane ever find out Superman's real idenity????
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>>>>>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>>>>>> and challenge
>>>>>> the unchallengeable.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Where on earth did you get 65?
>>>
>>>
>>> BINGO, right? I knew that number 65 would get your attention.
>>>
>>> "Where on earth did you get 65?"
>>>
>>> What you are really asking is is how did I get that number 65?
>>>
>>> So that you can find it on the Internet and take it down.
>>>
>>> You don't want me to answer that question here, do you?
>>>
>>> That would mean 1956.
>>>
>>> September.
>>>
>>> I guess you didn't get this quote:
>>>
>>>> "Why, if a fish came to me, and
>>>> told me he was going on a journey, ...
>>>> I should say, 'With what porpoise?'
>>>> "Don't you mean 'purpose'?" said Alice.
>>>> "I mean what I say," the Mock Turtle replied in an offended tone.
>>>
>>> It simply is a quote from Linda Goodman Sun Signs: The Virgo Man
>>>
>>> September. Virgo.
>>>
>>> You tripped up on this thread..
>>> you made *too much* effort correcting a
>>> misspelling of the word "hardwood" to "heartwood".
>>>
>>> You were too busy 'covering up' your cover.
>>>
>>>
>>> and my little funny math:
>>> --
>>> wait a minute...how much is 41 + 24? 4 and 1 is 5
>>>
>>> 4 and 2 is 6...65????
>>> --
>>>
>>> was just a trick to see what your response would be
>>> to seeing that number..65.
>>>
>>> AND IT WORKED!
>>>
>>> "Where on earth did you get 65?"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> BINGO!
>>>
>>>
>>> i watch a lot of Colombo tv shows
>>> like when he put the stolen jewelry under his
>>> own mattress.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Poor confused soul.
>
> the Mock Turtle replied in an offended tone...
>
>
>
> "confused"???? What confusion is there?
>
>
> 41 + 24 = 65
> 41 plus 24 equals 65
>
> No confusion there...
>
> I even checked with a calculator, I got the same answer 65.
>
>
> So, ...why did you ask "Where on earth did you get 65?"????
>
> Does the number 65 have any special meaning to you?
>
>

Not particularly. 41 was someone’s guess for my age, which is wrong.

You’ve tossed out 65 and September, pulled out from your ass and apparently
meaning nothing. Maybe September 1965, maybe September 65th, maybe 65-9=56,
or 65+9=74. Do these mean something to you, jester?

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>
>>> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>> Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 4:30:29 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Purdue University, not too
>>>>>>>>>>>>> far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> philosophy professor. He does do
>>>>>>>>>>>>> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Draper is a skinny white guy around the age of in his 40's...maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>> 39... or late 30's.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, that doesn’t seem to fit either.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wait a minute! You're 42, almost the same age than the other asshole, Dono.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I’m curious how you came up with that age number.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 41 to be exact.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but i could be ...20 years off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> more likely off by 24 years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wait a minute...how much is 41 + 24? 4 and 1 is 5
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4 and 2 is 6...65????
>>>>>>
>>>>>> how can a person be a carpenter at 65????
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and most carpenters don't even have a high school diploma...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> something not adding up here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did Lois Lane ever find out Superman's real idenity????
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>>>>>>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>>>>>>> and challenge
>>>>>>> the unchallengeable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Where on earth did you get 65?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> BINGO, right? I knew that number 65 would get your attention.
>>>>
>>>> "Where on earth did you get 65?"
>>>>
>>>> What you are really asking is is how did I get that number 65?
>>>>
>>>> So that you can find it on the Internet and take it down.
>>>>
>>>> You don't want me to answer that question here, do you?
>>>>
>>>> That would mean 1956.
>>>>
>>>> September.
>>>>
>>>> I guess you didn't get this quote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Why, if a fish came to me, and
>>>>> told me he was going on a journey, ...
>>>>> I should say, 'With what porpoise?'
>>>>> "Don't you mean 'purpose'?" said Alice.
>>>>> "I mean what I say," the Mock Turtle replied in an offended tone.
>>>>
>>>> It simply is a quote from Linda Goodman Sun Signs: The Virgo Man
>>>>
>>>> September. Virgo.
>>>>
>>>> You tripped up on this thread..
>>>> you made *too much* effort correcting a
>>>> misspelling of the word "hardwood" to "heartwood".
>>>>
>>>> You were too busy 'covering up' your cover.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> and my little funny math:
>>>> --
>>>> wait a minute...how much is 41 + 24? 4 and 1 is 5
>>>>
>>>> 4 and 2 is 6...65????
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> was just a trick to see what your response would be
>>>> to seeing that number..65.
>>>>
>>>> AND IT WORKED!
>>>>
>>>> "Where on earth did you get 65?"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> BINGO!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> i watch a lot of Colombo tv shows
>>>> like when he put the stolen jewelry under his
>>>> own mattress.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Poor confused soul.
>>
>> the Mock Turtle replied in an offended tone...
>>
>>
>>
>> "confused"???? What confusion is there?
>>
>>
>> 41 + 24 = 65
>> 41 plus 24 equals 65
>>
>> No confusion there...
>>
>> I even checked with a calculator, I got the same answer 65.
>>
>>
>> So, ...why did you ask "Where on earth did you get 65?"????
>>
>> Does the number 65 have any special meaning to you?
>>
>>
>
> Not particularly. 41 was someone’s guess for my age, which is wrong.
>
> You’ve tossed out 65 and September, pulled out from your ass and apparently
> meaning nothing. Maybe September 1965, maybe September 65th, maybe 65-9=56,
> or 65+9=74. Do these mean something to you, jester?
>

And by the way, your statement about carpenters usually not having a high
school diploma is flat wrong, and is certainly not true for woodworkers.
There are several tiers of woodworking, ranging from millworks jobs in
large plants, through specialty furniture and cabinetmaker shops, down to
small businesses at the craftsman end of the spectrum. The educational
background of the last is generally higher than of the first, but even the
first usually go to 2-3 year trade schools after high school, if for
nothing else to learn how to CNC. Craftsmen usually come from family
traditions or through an apprenticeship or do what I did, converting a side
passion into a career.

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Odd Bodkin wrote:
>
> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>
> >> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>> Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 4:30:29 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> <snip>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Purdue University, not too
> >>>>>>>>>>>> far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> philosophy professor. He does do
> >>>>>>>>>>>> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Paul Draper is a skinny white guy around the age of in his 40's...maybe
> >>>>>>>>>>> 39... or late 30's.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Well, that doesn’t seem to fit either.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Wait a minute! You're 42, almost the same age than the other asshole, Dono.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I’m curious how you came up with that age number.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 41 to be exact.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> but i could be ...20 years off.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> more likely off by 24 years.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> wait a minute...how much is 41 + 24? 4 and 1 is 5
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 4 and 2 is 6...65????
> >>>>>
> >>>>> how can a person be a carpenter at 65????
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and most carpenters don't even have a high school diploma...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> something not adding up here.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Did Lois Lane ever find out Superman's real idenity????
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> >>>>>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> >>>>>> and challenge
> >>>>>> the unchallengeable.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Where on earth did you get 65?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> BINGO, right? I knew that number 65 would get your attention.
> >>>
> >>> "Where on earth did you get 65?"
> >>>
> >>> What you are really asking is is how did I get that number 65?
> >>>
> >>> So that you can find it on the Internet and take it down.
> >>>
> >>> You don't want me to answer that question here, do you?
> >>>
> >>> That would mean 1956.
> >>>
> >>> September.
> >>>
> >>> I guess you didn't get this quote:
> >>>
> >>>> "Why, if a fish came to me, and
> >>>> told me he was going on a journey, ...
> >>>> I should say, 'With what porpoise?'
> >>>> "Don't you mean 'purpose'?" said Alice.
> >>>> "I mean what I say," the Mock Turtle replied in an offended tone.
> >>>
> >>> It simply is a quote from Linda Goodman Sun Signs: The Virgo Man
> >>>
> >>> September. Virgo.
> >>>
> >>> You tripped up on this thread..
> >>> you made *too much* effort correcting a
> >>> misspelling of the word "hardwood" to "heartwood".
> >>>
> >>> You were too busy 'covering up' your cover.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> and my little funny math:
> >>> --
> >>> wait a minute...how much is 41 + 24? 4 and 1 is 5
> >>>
> >>> 4 and 2 is 6...65????
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> was just a trick to see what your response would be
> >>> to seeing that number..65.
> >>>
> >>> AND IT WORKED!
> >>>
> >>> "Where on earth did you get 65?"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> BINGO!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> i watch a lot of Colombo tv shows
> >>> like when he put the stolen jewelry under his
> >>> own mattress.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Poor confused soul.
> >
> > the Mock Turtle replied in an offended tone...
> >
> >
> >
> > "confused"???? What confusion is there?
> >
> >
> > 41 + 24 = 65
> > 41 plus 24 equals 65
> >
> > No confusion there...
> >
> > I even checked with a calculator, I got the same answer 65.
> >
> >
> > So, ...why did you ask "Where on earth did you get 65?"????
> >
> > Does the number 65 have any special meaning to you?
> >
> >
>
> Not particularly. 41 was someone’s guess for my age, which is wrong.
>
> You’ve tossed out 65 and September, pulled out from your ass and apparently
> meaning nothing. Maybe September 1965, maybe September 65th, maybe 65-9=56,
> or 65+9=74. Do these mean something to you, jester?

Yes, I wrote September 1956.

The month you were born and the year you were born.

Your question: "Where on earth did you get 65?" is a specific question you made.

You single out one number, 65...because you had a "particularly" special reason for asking.

If a woman is trying to hide her age...
and one says to her...65..

she will probably get her panties in a knot and exclaim "WHERE ARE EARTH DID YOU GET 65?"

What is what you did. You lost contol. You're having a bad day. take it easy..you're eating too much falafels.

>
> --
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > Michael Moroney wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 11/30/2021 11:22 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> > >>> Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>> On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 6:31:42 PM UTC-5, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>> On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 3:08:51 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>>>>>> Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin..
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> He's not a Scientist
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> He's not a Physicists
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> He's not a Mathematician
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> He's not a Philosopher
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> He's just in fact...
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> a woodworker, a carpenter..
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> a maker of fine toys, tools, tables.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Odd is Paul Draper, a failed physicist.
> > >>>>> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too
> > >>>>> far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do
> > >>>>> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> PD disappeared and Odd Bodkin showed up. Both PD’s and Bodkin’s posts are similar.
> > >>>
> > >>> Doesn’t answer my question. Is this the Paul Draper you’re thinking of? If
> > >>> it is, we can just ask him.
> > >>>
> > >> A search turns up some 200+ Paul Drapers in the US. Fewer, actually,
> > >> since some of them are old addresses of another entry.
> > >> I vaguely remember "our" Paul Draper was involved in textbook publishing
> > >> somehow.
> > >
> > > TEXTBOOK PUBLISHING???? NO WAY!!
> >
> > Yeah, not the business I’m in.
> >
> > >
> > > He's a carpenter like Jesus Christ! from the bod of godd
> > >
> > >
> > > technical writer for sure...
> >
> > Nah, that’s a whole different discipline.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > monopoly textbook publishers
> >
> > Monopoly? There’s a boatload of competing publishers, how can there be a
> > monopoly?
>
> I get it. I understand. You're not familiar with monopoly textbook
> publishers.
>
> https://writing.ucsc.edu/RothmanAwards/2017/Lao_Natan_Textbook-Monopoly.pdf
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2015/10/21/college-textbooks-are-a-racket/
> http://isu.indstate.edu/guell/ecn100_004/Textbooks.pdf
> come on already, there's tons of this stuff...

You need to understand the REAL world of "a boatload of competing publishers" who are trying to get
their educational products into the hands of teachers and students.

If I'm a competing publisher wani9nt to get my educational products into the hands of professors, teachers and student...
I would simply *bribe* the proffesors and teachers to use ONLY my books.
You have to corrupt the proffesors and teachers on a daily basics.
All my efforts will be on corrupting the proffesors and teachers.
That creates a wall blocking my competitors from reaching proffesors and teachers.
My proffesors and teachers. I owned them. I paid for it.
They belong to me.
And they will continue buying from me every year or I will turn them in for excepting bribes.
Fuck the students. I'l raise the fucking prices on them...because I CAN.
I got a monopoly.

That's how it's done.

But you Odd don't live in a real world. You probably will try to sell textbooks directly to students.

But my textbooks are 'required' reading, yours are not.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>
>> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>> Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>> Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 4:30:29 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked in Wikipedia.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There’s a Paul
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Draper at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Purdue University, not too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> far from where you are in Ohio. But
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he’s a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> philosophy professor. He does do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Draper is a skinny white guy around the age of in his 40's...maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 39... or late 30's.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, that doesn’t seem to fit either.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Wait a minute! You're 42, almost the same age than the other asshole, Dono.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I’m curious how you came up with that age number.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 41 to be exact.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> but i could be ...20 years off.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> more likely off by 24 years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wait a minute...how much is 41 + 24? 4 and 1 is 5
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4 and 2 is 6...65????
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> how can a person be a carpenter at 65????
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and most carpenters don't even have a high school diploma...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> something not adding up here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did Lois Lane ever find out Superman's real idenity????
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>>>>>>>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>>>>>>>> and challenge
>>>>>>>> the unchallengeable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where on earth did you get 65?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> BINGO, right? I knew that number 65 would get your attention.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Where on earth did you get 65?"
>>>>>
>>>>> What you are really asking is is how did I get that number 65?
>>>>>
>>>>> So that you can find it on the Internet and take it down.
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't want me to answer that question here, do you?
>>>>>
>>>>> That would mean 1956.
>>>>>
>>>>> September.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess you didn't get this quote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Why, if a fish came to me, and
>>>>>> told me he was going on a journey, ...
>>>>>> I should say, 'With what porpoise?'
>>>>>> "Don't you mean 'purpose'?" said Alice.
>>>>>> "I mean what I say," the Mock Turtle replied in an offended tone.
>>>>>
>>>>> It simply is a quote from Linda Goodman Sun Signs: The Virgo Man
>>>>>
>>>>> September. Virgo.
>>>>>
>>>>> You tripped up on this thread..
>>>>> you made *too much* effort correcting a
>>>>> misspelling of the word "hardwood" to "heartwood".
>>>>>
>>>>> You were too busy 'covering up' your cover.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> and my little funny math:
>>>>> --
>>>>> wait a minute...how much is 41 + 24? 4 and 1 is 5
>>>>>
>>>>> 4 and 2 is 6...65????
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> was just a trick to see what your response would be
>>>>> to seeing that number..65.
>>>>>
>>>>> AND IT WORKED!
>>>>>
>>>>> "Where on earth did you get 65?"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> BINGO!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> i watch a lot of Colombo tv shows
>>>>> like when he put the stolen jewelry under his
>>>>> own mattress.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Poor confused soul.
>>>
>>> the Mock Turtle replied in an offended tone...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "confused"???? What confusion is there?
>>>
>>>
>>> 41 + 24 = 65
>>> 41 plus 24 equals 65
>>>
>>> No confusion there...
>>>
>>> I even checked with a calculator, I got the same answer 65.
>>>
>>>
>>> So, ...why did you ask "Where on earth did you get 65?"????
>>>
>>> Does the number 65 have any special meaning to you?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Not particularly. 41 was someone’s guess for my age, which is wrong.
>>
>> You’ve tossed out 65 and September, pulled out from your ass and apparently
>> meaning nothing. Maybe September 1965, maybe September 65th, maybe 65-9=56,
>> or 65+9=74. Do these mean something to you, jester?
>
>
> Yes, I wrote September 1956.
>
> The month you were born and the year you were born.

How on earth did you come up with THAT?
I believe you are confused.

>
>
> Your question: "Where on earth did you get 65?" is a specific question you made.
>
> You single out one number, 65...because you had a "particularly" special reason for asking.
>
> If a woman is trying to hide her age...
> and one says to her...65..
>
> she will probably get her panties in a knot and exclaim "WHERE ARE EARTH DID YOU GET 65?"
>
>
> What is what you did. You lost contol. You're having a bad day. take it
> easy..you're eating too much falafels.
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>
>>> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>> Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/30/2021 11:22 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 6:31:42 PM UTC-5, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 3:08:51 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> He's not a Scientist
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> He's not a Physicists
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> He's not a Mathematician
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> He's not a Philosopher
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> He's just in fact...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> a woodworker, a carpenter..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> a maker of fine toys, tools, tables.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Odd is Paul Draper, a failed physicist.
>>>>>>>> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too
>>>>>>>> far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do
>>>>>>>> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PD disappeared and Odd Bodkin showed up. Both PD’s and
>>>>>>> Bodkin’s posts are similar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doesn’t answer my question. Is this the Paul Draper you’re thinking of? If
>>>>>> it is, we can just ask him.
>>>>>>
>>>>> A search turns up some 200+ Paul Drapers in the US. Fewer, actually,
>>>>> since some of them are old addresses of another entry.
>>>>> I vaguely remember "our" Paul Draper was involved in textbook publishing
>>>>> somehow.
>>>>
>>>> TEXTBOOK PUBLISHING???? NO WAY!!
>>>
>>> Yeah, not the business I’m in.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> He's a carpenter like Jesus Christ! from the bod of godd
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> technical writer for sure...
>>>
>>> Nah, that’s a whole different discipline.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> monopoly textbook publishers
>>>
>>> Monopoly? There’s a boatload of competing publishers, how can there be a
>>> monopoly?
>>
>> I get it. I understand. You're not familiar with monopoly textbook
>> publishers.
>>
>> https://writing.ucsc.edu/RothmanAwards/2017/Lao_Natan_Textbook-Monopoly.pdf
>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2015/10/21/college-textbooks-are-a-racket/
>> http://isu.indstate.edu/guell/ecn100_004/Textbooks.pdf
>> come on already, there's tons of this stuff...
>
>
> You need to understand the REAL world of "a boatload of competing
> publishers" who are trying to get
> their educational products into the hands of teachers and students.
>
> If I'm a competing publisher wani9nt to get my educational products into
> the hands of professors, teachers and student...
> I would simply *bribe* the proffesors and teachers to use ONLY my books.
> You have to corrupt the proffesors and teachers on a daily basics.
> All my efforts will be on corrupting the proffesors and teachers.
> That creates a wall blocking my competitors from reaching proffesors and teachers.
> My proffesors and teachers. I owned them. I paid for it.
> They belong to me.
> And they will continue buying from me every year or I will turn them in
> for excepting bribes.
> Fuck the students. I'l raise the fucking prices on them...because I CAN.
> I got a monopoly.
>
> That's how it's done.
>
> But you Odd don't live in a real world. You probably will try to sell
> textbooks directly to students.
>
> But my textbooks are 'required' reading, yours are not.
>
>

LOL. Well, I guess I bought my textbooks for my classes the wrong way. I
usually bought a book other than what was suggested, and just borrowed the
suggested book to look up homework assignment.

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote:
[-]
> And by the way, your statement about carpenters usually not having a high
> school diploma is flat wrong, and is certainly not true for woodworkers.
> There are several tiers of woodworking, ranging from millworks jobs in
> large plants, through specialty furniture and cabinetmaker shops, down to
> small businesses at the craftsman end of the spectrum. The educational
> background of the last is generally higher than of the first, but even the
> first usually go to 2-3 year trade schools after high school, if for
> nothing else to learn how to CNC. Craftsmen usually come from family
> traditions or through an apprenticeship or do what I did, converting a side
> passion into a career.

Yes, and the 'pecking order' is turning upside down.
Good woodworkers are hard to find nowadays,
so they are well paid.

The one I happen to know has a long waiting list,
and he takes only the jobs he likes to do,

Jan

J. J. Lodder <nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> wrote:
> Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote:
> [-]
>> And by the way, your statement about carpenters usually not having a high
>> school diploma is flat wrong, and is certainly not true for woodworkers.
>> There are several tiers of woodworking, ranging from millworks jobs in
>> large plants, through specialty furniture and cabinetmaker shops, down to
>> small businesses at the craftsman end of the spectrum. The educational
>> background of the last is generally higher than of the first, but even the
>> first usually go to 2-3 year trade schools after high school, if for
>> nothing else to learn how to CNC. Craftsmen usually come from family
>> traditions or through an apprenticeship or do what I did, converting a side
>> passion into a career.
>
> Yes, and the 'pecking order' is turning upside down.
> Good woodworkers are hard to find nowadays,
> so they are well paid.
>
> The one I happen to know has a long waiting list,
> and he takes only the jobs he likes to do,
>
> Jan
>

That’s what I do. Other than stain under my fingernails and some of my
clothes smelling of sawdust, it’s a fine life.

--
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 7:20:36 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:

<snip>

> That’s what I do. Other than stain under my fingernails and some of my
> clothes smelling of sawdust, it’s a fine life.
> --
> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

I'm sure that you get high with the glue or any other substance around and then you ran to post some idiocies.

And about you being 42, these are my estimations:

* You got your BsC by 1999/2000, being 22.
* A finance company hired you until the subprime crisis, starting in 2007.
* By March 2008, at the peak, you was sacked (being around 30).
* You struggle and failed to find another job for 1 year, and decided that
there was no corporate future for you.
* A friend gave you a hand by hiring you to help refurbishing houses returned to banks.
* You learned, hands on, how to work as a handy-man and, by 2010, you saw a chance
in refurbishing small wood furniture, so you went for it in this branch.
* By 2012, you was capable to make small furniture by your own, and make more money.
* In the meanwhile, just to use your brain, started to read about physics, as you developed
a serious aversion to your major, mathematics. Physics was the field where you could not
do wrong and talk a lot as you like. Mathematics is a bitch.
* Between 2012 and 2014 you was banned from every physics forum that existed, due to the
idiocies that you posted.
* Then, in the fall of 2014, you learned about a shitty forum without censorship (almost), and
started to try here, where you was severely beaten but no kicked out (not possible).
You was around 36 by then.
* By 2021, your resilience to dodge bullets plus the 9,000+ posts that you did about ANYTHING,
and I mean ANYTHING, convinced you that you are the Supreme Thinker at this stinky place.
And you are 42/43 years old by now.

Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 7:20:36 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> That’s what I do. Other than stain under my fingernails and some of my
>> clothes smelling of sawdust, it’s a fine life.
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>
> I'm sure that you get high with the glue or any other substance around
> and then you ran to post some idiocies.
>
> And about you being 42, these are my estimations:
>
> * You got your BsC by 1999/2000, being 22.

I started college at 17. The year is wrong.

> * A finance company hired you until the subprime crisis, starting in 2007.

No. I did not leave during any financial crisis. I left when markets were
good.

> * By March 2008, at the peak, you was sacked (being around 30).

Wrong age. And I left on my own. I was encouraged by both my boss and her
boss to stay.

> * You struggle and failed to find another job for 1 year, and decided that
> there was no corporate future for you.

No that’s wrong too. I moved to where I am now and built a shop.

> * A friend gave you a hand by hiring you to help refurbishing houses returned to banks.

I’m not a carpenter. I’m not a handyman.

> * You learned, hands on, how to work as a handy-man and, by 2010, you saw a chance
> in refurbishing small wood furniture, so you went for it in this branch.

Completely wrong. I’d been making furniture since high school.

> * By 2012, you was capable to make small furniture by your own, and make more money.
> * In the meanwhile, just to use your brain, started to read about physics, as you developed
> a serious aversion to your major, mathematics. Physics was the field where you could not
> do wrong and talk a lot as you like. Mathematics is a bitch.

Maybe to you (Mr Excel). Not me so much.

> * Between 2012 and 2014 you was banned from every physics forum that existed, due to the
> idiocies that you posted.

I don’t think it is possible to be banned from an unmoderated Usenet forum.

> * Then, in the fall of 2014, you learned about a shitty forum without
> censorship (almost), and
> started to try here, where you was severely beaten but no kicked out (not possible).
> You was around 36 by then.

Wrong.

> * By 2021, your resilience to dodge bullets plus the 9,000+ posts that
> you did about ANYTHING,
> and I mean ANYTHING, convinced you that you are the Supreme Thinker at
> this stinky place.

I think you’ll find that a lot of people have interest in a lot of subjects
without needing to be a “supreme thinker”. If you feel competent in only
one — engineering — that’s a pity.

> And you are 42/43 years old by now.

Wrong.

>
>

--
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 2:03:53 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 7:20:36 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> >> That’s what I do. Other than stain under my fingernails and some of my
> >> clothes smelling of sawdust, it’s a fine life.
> >> --
> >> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> >
> > I'm sure that you get high with the glue or any other substance around
> > and then you ran to post some idiocies.
> >
> > And about you being 42, these are my estimations:
> >
> > * You got your BsC by 1999/2000, being 22.
> I started college at 17. The year is wrong.
> > * A finance company hired you until the subprime crisis, starting in 2007.
> No. I did not leave during any financial crisis. I left when markets were
> good.
> > * By March 2008, at the peak, you was sacked (being around 30).
> Wrong age. And I left on my own. I was encouraged by both my boss and her
> boss to stay.
> > * You struggle and failed to find another job for 1 year, and decided that
> > there was no corporate future for you.
> No that’s wrong too. I moved to where I am now and built a shop.
> > * A friend gave you a hand by hiring you to help refurbishing houses returned to banks.
> I’m not a carpenter. I’m not a handyman.
> > * You learned, hands on, how to work as a handy-man and, by 2010, you saw a chance
> > in refurbishing small wood furniture, so you went for it in this branch..
> Completely wrong. I’d been making furniture since high school.
> > * By 2012, you was capable to make small furniture by your own, and make more money.
> > * In the meanwhile, just to use your brain, started to read about physics, as you developed
> > a serious aversion to your major, mathematics. Physics was the field where you could not
> > do wrong and talk a lot as you like. Mathematics is a bitch.
> Maybe to you (Mr Excel). Not me so much.
> > * Between 2012 and 2014 you was banned from every physics forum that existed, due to the
> > idiocies that you posted.
> I don’t think it is possible to be banned from an unmoderated Usenet forum.
> > * Then, in the fall of 2014, you learned about a shitty forum without
> > censorship (almost), and
> > started to try here, where you was severely beaten but no kicked out (not possible).
> > You was around 36 by then.
> Wrong.
> > * By 2021, your resilience to dodge bullets plus the 9,000+ posts that
> > you did about ANYTHING,
> > and I mean ANYTHING, convinced you that you are the Supreme Thinker at
> > this stinky place.
> I think you’ll find that a lot of people have interest in a lot of subjects
> without needing to be a “supreme thinker”. If you feel competent in only
> one — engineering — that’s a pity.
> > And you are 42/43 years old by now.
> Wrong.
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Thanks for the reply. You are between 43 and 46, top.

I'm in favor of you being 45.

Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 2:03:53 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 7:20:36 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> That’s what I do. Other than stain under my fingernails and some of my
>>>> clothes smelling of sawdust, it’s a fine life.
>>>> --
>>>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>>
>>> I'm sure that you get high with the glue or any other substance around
>>> and then you ran to post some idiocies.
>>>
>>> And about you being 42, these are my estimations:
>>>
>>> * You got your BsC by 1999/2000, being 22.
>> I started college at 17. The year is wrong.
>>> * A finance company hired you until the subprime crisis, starting in 2007.
>> No. I did not leave during any financial crisis. I left when markets were
>> good.
>>> * By March 2008, at the peak, you was sacked (being around 30).
>> Wrong age. And I left on my own. I was encouraged by both my boss and her
>> boss to stay.
>>> * You struggle and failed to find another job for 1 year, and decided that
>>> there was no corporate future for you.
>> No that’s wrong too. I moved to where I am now and built a shop.
>>> * A friend gave you a hand by hiring you to help refurbishing houses returned to banks.
>> I’m not a carpenter. I’m not a handyman.
>>> * You learned, hands on, how to work as a handy-man and, by 2010, you saw a chance
>>> in refurbishing small wood furniture, so you went for it in this branch.
>> Completely wrong. I’d been making furniture since high school.
>>> * By 2012, you was capable to make small furniture by your own, and make more money.
>>> * In the meanwhile, just to use your brain, started to read about
>>> physics, as you developed
>>> a serious aversion to your major, mathematics. Physics was the field where you could not
>>> do wrong and talk a lot as you like. Mathematics is a bitch.
>> Maybe to you (Mr Excel). Not me so much.
>>> * Between 2012 and 2014 you was banned from every physics forum that existed, due to the
>>> idiocies that you posted.
>> I don’t think it is possible to be banned from an unmoderated Usenet forum.
>>> * Then, in the fall of 2014, you learned about a shitty forum without
>>> censorship (almost), and
>>> started to try here, where you was severely beaten but no kicked out (not possible).
>>> You was around 36 by then.
>> Wrong.
>>> * By 2021, your resilience to dodge bullets plus the 9,000+ posts that
>>> you did about ANYTHING,
>>> and I mean ANYTHING, convinced you that you are the Supreme Thinker at
>>> this stinky place.
>> I think you’ll find that a lot of people have interest in a lot of subjects
>> without needing to be a “supreme thinker”. If you feel competent in only
>> one — engineering — that’s a pity.
>>> And you are 42/43 years old by now.
>> Wrong.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>
> Thanks for the reply. You are between 43 and 46, top.
>
> I'm in favor of you being 45.
>
>

And why would any of this be of interest to you?
FYI I started posting here about 8 years ago, after watching for quite a
while. I was in my early 30s back then.

--
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 7:08:49 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 2:03:53 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 7:20:36 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>> <snip>
> >>>
> >>>> That’s what I do. Other than stain under my fingernails and some of my
> >>>> clothes smelling of sawdust, it’s a fine life.
> >>>> --
> >>>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> >>>
> >>> I'm sure that you get high with the glue or any other substance around
> >>> and then you ran to post some idiocies.
> >>>
> >>> And about you being 42, these are my estimations:
> >>>
> >>> * You got your BsC by 1999/2000, being 22.
> >> I started college at 17. The year is wrong.
> >>> * A finance company hired you until the subprime crisis, starting in 2007.
> >> No. I did not leave during any financial crisis. I left when markets were
> >> good.
> >>> * By March 2008, at the peak, you was sacked (being around 30).
> >> Wrong age. And I left on my own. I was encouraged by both my boss and her
> >> boss to stay.
> >>> * You struggle and failed to find another job for 1 year, and decided that
> >>> there was no corporate future for you.
> >> No that’s wrong too. I moved to where I am now and built a shop.
> >>> * A friend gave you a hand by hiring you to help refurbishing houses returned to banks.
> >> I’m not a carpenter. I’m not a handyman.
> >>> * You learned, hands on, how to work as a handy-man and, by 2010, you saw a chance
> >>> in refurbishing small wood furniture, so you went for it in this branch.
> >> Completely wrong. I’d been making furniture since high school.
> >>> * By 2012, you was capable to make small furniture by your own, and make more money.
> >>> * In the meanwhile, just to use your brain, started to read about
> >>> physics, as you developed
> >>> a serious aversion to your major, mathematics. Physics was the field where you could not
> >>> do wrong and talk a lot as you like. Mathematics is a bitch.
> >> Maybe to you (Mr Excel). Not me so much.
> >>> * Between 2012 and 2014 you was banned from every physics forum that existed, due to the
> >>> idiocies that you posted.
> >> I don’t think it is possible to be banned from an unmoderated Usenet forum.
> >>> * Then, in the fall of 2014, you learned about a shitty forum without
> >>> censorship (almost), and
> >>> started to try here, where you was severely beaten but no kicked out (not possible).
> >>> You was around 36 by then.
> >> Wrong.
> >>> * By 2021, your resilience to dodge bullets plus the 9,000+ posts that
> >>> you did about ANYTHING,
> >>> and I mean ANYTHING, convinced you that you are the Supreme Thinker at
> >>> this stinky place.
> >> I think you’ll find that a lot of people have interest in a lot of subjects
> >> without needing to be a “supreme thinker”. If you feel competent in only
> >> one — engineering — that’s a pity.
> >>> And you are 42/43 years old by now.
> >> Wrong.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> >
> > Thanks for the reply. You are between 43 and 46, top.
> >
> > I'm in favor of you being 45.
> >
> >
> And why would any of this be of interest to you?
> FYI I started posting here about 8 years ago, after watching for quite a
> while. I was in my early 30s back then.
> --
> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

It's not important to me, Bodkin. I was just following the Starmaker post that teased you.

For me, it's OK if you have 30 or 60. I liked the challenge to reduce margins of what Starmaker did post, just using deduction.

Nothing more, nothing else. I let know that I'm 67, and a retired EE. No problem with that also. Just a game.