On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 5:00:43 PM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
>I let know that I'm 67, and a retired EE.

Time when idee fixe sets in. It is fun to notice that reduced you basically to stalking.

Odd Bodkin wrote:

> I started college at 17.

Well, that is correct, ...you did started college at 17. (i can verify
that)

Are you one of those 'professional students' i hear about that spends
most of their life in college because
they are afraid of going out in the real world and WORK for a living????

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
the unchallengeable.

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> Odd Bodkin wrote:
>
> > I started college at 17.
>
> Well, that is correct, ...you did started college at 17. (i can verify
> that)
>
> Are you one of those 'professional students' i hear about that spends
> most of their life in college because
> they are afraid of going out in the real world and WORK for a living????
>

I guess...if one becomes a professional student..then they are qualified to be a proffesional student educator..
(you're sure read a lot of textbooks.) (you seem to be always 'pushing' textbooks)
(i get it, you're a textbook genuis.)

I guess all those years in college...you couldn't find a job in...Relativity.

Like they say...'Those who can't, Teach.'

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> Odd Bodkin wrote:
>
> > I started college at 17.
>
> Well, that is correct, ...you did started college at 17. (i can verify
> that)
>
> Are you one of those 'professional students' i hear about that spends
> most of their life in college because
> they are afraid of going out in the real world and WORK for a living????
>

Now, i knows yous people are asking the question...
How did I verify it was 17 when the odd bodkin entered college?

Well, I read what odd wrote:

Odd Bodkin wrote:

> I started college at 17.

And I already knew he first entered college in 1974

So, ...I looked at what 'I' wrote:

"Yes, I wrote September 1956.

The month you were born and the year you were born."

Then it was a simply math to count
How many years from 1956 to 1974

and at counted one year up at a time

(not knowing how many years it was from 1956 to 1974)
(i had to use my fingers to be sure)

57,58,59,60
61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70
71 72 73 and entered college in 1974 while he still was 17 years old.

You put that together with what Odd wrote:

Odd Bodkin wrote:

> I started college at 17.

and I have verification.

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The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 10:29:13 PM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:

> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >
> > I started college at 17.
> >
> > Well, that is correct, ...you did started college at 17. (i can verify that)

He never wrote that. He was being teased as being Paul Draper.

> And I already knew he first entered college in 1974
> So, ...I looked at what 'I' wrote:
>
> "Yes, I wrote September 1956.
>
> The month you were born and the year you were born."
> Then it was a simply math to count
> How many years from 1956 to 1974
>
> and at counted one year up at a time
>
> (not knowing how many years it was from 1956 to 1974)
> (i had to use my fingers to be sure)
>
> 57,58,59,60
> 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70
> 71 72 73 and entered college in 1974 while he still was 17 years old.

<snip>

You are stalking to the poor Bod. However, he wrote once:

******************
On Thursday, April 23, 2015 at 10:35:19 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 4/23/2015 2:08 AM, Koobee Wublee wrote:

> PD is now producing textbooks for high school kids.
>
That's not what it says he does in the profile you posted. I thought you could read.

> Hey, who cares except PD, and Odd Bodkin is PD. <shrug>
> Well, Resnick and Holiday is still a classic and very much valid.

You may mean Halliday and Resnick, of which I have a copy. It might also interest you that it's been Halliday, Resnick, and Walker
since the 4th edition copyright 1990. I believe it's now in the 10th edition, which means he has been the lead author for the last 7
editions. At least, according to Jearl Walker's profile at Cleveland State and the Wiley website.
******************

Mmmm...............

First edition was a hit, and was published around 1964. Second edition came out around 1971 (I still have my copy, from college).
Third edition came around 1981, and fourth around 1990 (with a third author, Walker).

Bodkin has a copy of one of the three first editions. I bet that's the 2nd.

That put him going to college in the 70's, as I did. Mmmm.......

As he lies about age and time, I'd calculate his entrance by 1975 +/- 3 years, and getting his BsC by 1979 +/- 3 years (being 21).

So, it narrows his current age to 42 + 21 +/- 3 years: between 60 and 66. Interesting.

Plus, he doesn't write as a 41. The burden of life is felt on his pen, I mean his typing. As Dono uses to say, he's an old fart! LOL!

Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 10:29:13 PM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
>
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>
>>> Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>
>>> I started college at 17.
>>>
>>> Well, that is correct, ...you did started college at 17. (i can verify that)
>
> He never wrote that. He was being teased as being Paul Draper.
>
>> And I already knew he first entered college in 1974
>> So, ...I looked at what 'I' wrote:
>>
>> "Yes, I wrote September 1956.
>>
>> The month you were born and the year you were born."
>> Then it was a simply math to count
>> How many years from 1956 to 1974
>>
>> and at counted one year up at a time
>>
>> (not knowing how many years it was from 1956 to 1974)
>> (i had to use my fingers to be sure)
>>
>> 57,58,59,60
>> 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70
>> 71 72 73 and entered college in 1974 while he still was 17 years old.
>
> <snip>
>
> You are stalking to the poor Bod.

If I had to guess, he’s probably stalking that Paul Draper guy, what with
the LinkedIn profile and publishing and physics prof and stuff.

> However, he wrote once:
>
> ******************
> On Thursday, April 23, 2015 at 10:35:19 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 4/23/2015 2:08 AM, Koobee Wublee wrote:
>
>> PD is now producing textbooks for high school kids.
>>
> That's not what it says he does in the profile you posted. I thought you could read.
>
>> Hey, who cares except PD, and Odd Bodkin is PD. <shrug>
>> Well, Resnick and Holiday is still a classic and very much valid.
>
> You may mean Halliday and Resnick, of which I have a copy. It might also
> interest you that it's been Halliday, Resnick, and Walker
> since the 4th edition copyright 1990. I believe it's now in the 10th
> edition, which means he has been the lead author for the last 7
> editions. At least, according to Jearl Walker's profile at Cleveland
> State and the Wiley website.
> ******************
>
> Mmmm...............
>
> First edition was a hit, and was published around 1964. Second edition
> came out around 1971 (I still have my copy, from college).
> Third edition came around 1981, and fourth around 1990 (with a third author, Walker).
>
> Bodkin has a copy of one of the three first editions. I bet that's the 2nd.
>
> That put him going to college in the 70's, as I did. Mmmm.......

Wrong.

In college, the class used Giancoli. I think I mentioned that I did not buy
the book required by the professor and only borrowed it to collect homework
sets. I think I used Serway mostly, which was in the library.

Only years later did I buy Halliday and Resnick 3e.

>
> As he lies about age and time, I'd calculate his entrance by 1975 +/- 3
> years, and getting his BsC by 1979 +/- 3 years (being 21).
>
> So, it narrows his current age to 42 + 21 +/- 3 years: between 60 and 66. Interesting.
>
> Plus, he doesn't write as a 41. The burden of life is felt on his pen, I
> mean his typing. As Dono uses to say, he's an old fart! LOL!
>

Any other foolish guesses?

Burden of life. *snort*

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

El lunes, 6 de diciembre de 2021 a las 10:22:55 UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com escribió:
> Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Plus, he doesn't write as a 41. The burden of life is felt on his pen, I
> > mean his typing. As Dono uses to say, he's an old fart! LOL!
> >
> Any other foolish guesses?
>
> Burden of life. *snort*
>

Above all, what has age, sex, profession, etc, any relevance in discussing Relativity subjects?

I have participated in this group since 1998 and many people had come and go. Very few remain (Tom is one of them).

Odd Bodkin wrote:

>
> If I had to guess, he's probably stalking that Paul Draper guy, what with
> the LinkedIn profile and publishing and physics prof and stuff.

To use your own words...

How on earth did you come up with THAT?
How on earth did you come up with THAT?
How on earth did you come up with THAT?

physics prof and stuff?

How on earth did you come up with THAT?
How on earth did you come up with THAT?
How on earth did you come up with THAT?

publishing and physics

How on earth did you come up with THAT?
How on earth did you come up with THAT?
How on earth did you come up with THAT?

physics prof???

How on earth did you come up with THAT?

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Odd Bodkin wrote:
>
>>
>> If I had to guess, he's probably stalking that Paul Draper guy, what with
>> the LinkedIn profile and publishing and physics prof and stuff.
>
> To use your own words...
>
> How on earth did you come up with THAT?
> How on earth did you come up with THAT?
> How on earth did you come up with THAT?
>
> physics prof and stuff?
>
>
> How on earth did you come up with THAT?
> How on earth did you come up with THAT?
> How on earth did you come up with THAT?
>
> publishing and physics
>
>
> How on earth did you come up with THAT?
> How on earth did you come up with THAT?
> How on earth did you come up with THAT?
>
>
> physics prof???
>
>
> How on earth did you come up with THAT?
>

Yeah I read his LinkedIn profile when someone put it up a couple days ago.
OK, so HE looks to be in the age range you’re talking about.
What does that have to do with me?

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

On 12/7/2021 9:07 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>> How on earth did you come up with THAT?
(repeated as nauseum)
>>
>
> Yeah I read his LinkedIn profile when someone put it up a couple days ago.
> OK, so HE looks to be in the age range you’re talking about.
> What does that have to do with me?
>
Must be yet another instance of crackpots believing every non-crackpot
in the sci.* groups is a PD sock.

(except me, for some reason. I've been accused of being PD just once)

Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote:
> On 12/7/2021 9:07 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>>> How on earth did you come up with THAT?
> (repeated as nauseum)
>>>
>>
>> Yeah I read his LinkedIn profile when someone put it up a couple days ago.
>> OK, so HE looks to be in the age range you’re talking about.
>> What does that have to do with me?
>>
> Must be yet another instance of crackpots believing every non-crackpot
> in the sci.* groups is a PD sock.
>
> (except me, for some reason. I've been accused of being PD just once)
>

It’s actually demeaning to have my identity disregarded and substituted
with someone else’s.

I notice that no one here responds to a poster by saying, “Hey, I know you.
You’re Albert Einstein, really, aren’t you? You’re not dead at all. And
here you are, posting a lot on a Usenet forum. Good for you.”

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 12:11:41 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:

<snip>

> It’s actually demeaning to have my identity disregarded and substituted
> with someone else’s.
>
> I notice that no one here responds to a poster by saying, “Hey, I know you.
> You’re Albert Einstein, really, aren’t you? You’re not dead at all. And
> here you are, posting a lot on a Usenet forum. Good for you.”
> --
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables AND 4 BOOKS PLUS 5 ARTICLES

Hey Odd, I introduce Paul Droper to you. Curiously, you are both 64 y.o., and share the same interests,
except that you don't address religious issues here (as it must be).

https://alchetron.com/Paul-Draper-(philosopher)
https://philpeople.org/profiles/paul-draper

Paul Draper (born 1957) is an American philosopher, most known for his work in the philosophy of religion. His work on the
evidential argument from evil has been widely influential. He is currently a professor at Purdue University. He is co-editor of
topics in the philosophy of religion for the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy.

Areas of Specialization

Philosophy of Religion
*** Science and Religion
*** Probabilistic Reasoning

Areas of Interest

** Formal Epistemology
*** General Philosophy of Science
Philosophy of Consciousness
*Metaphysics of Mind
** Persons
David Hume

Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 12:11:41 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> It’s actually demeaning to have my identity disregarded and substituted
>> with someone else’s.
>>
>> I notice that no one here responds to a poster by saying, “Hey, I know you.
>> You’re Albert Einstein, really, aren’t you? You’re not dead at all. And
>> here you are, posting a lot on a Usenet forum. Good for you.”
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables AND 4 BOOKS PLUS 5 ARTICLES
>
> Hey Odd, I introduce Paul Droper to you. Curiously, you are both 64
> y.o., and share the same interests,

1. You are hung up on Paul Draper at www.LinkedIn.com/pauldraper
2. You are hung up on Paul Draper at philpeople.org/profiles/paul-draper
3. You have the opportunity to become hung up on pauldraperofficial.com
4. You have apparently not been acquainted yet with pauldraper.com

> except that you don't address religious issues here (as it must be).
>
> https://alchetron.com/Paul-Draper-(philosopher)
> https://philpeople.org/profiles/paul-draper
>
> Paul Draper (born 1957) is an American philosopher, most known for his
> work in the philosophy of religion. His work on the
> evidential argument from evil has been widely influential. He is
> currently a professor at Purdue University. He is co-editor of
> topics in the philosophy of religion for the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy.
>
>
> Areas of Specialization
>
> Philosophy of Religion
> *** Science and Religion
> *** Probabilistic Reasoning
>
> Areas of Interest
>
> ** Formal Epistemology
> *** General Philosophy of Science
> Philosophy of Consciousness
> *Metaphysics of Mind
> ** Persons
> David Hume
>

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 1:27:05 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote:

<snip>

> > Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables AND 4 BOOKS PLUS 5 ARTICLES
> Hey Odd, I introduce Paul Droper to you. Curiously, you are both 64 y.o., and share the same interests,
> except that you don't address religious issues here (as it must be).
>
> https://alchetron.com/Paul-Draper-(philosopher)
> https://philpeople.org/profiles/paul-draper
>
> Paul Draper (born 1957) is an American philosopher, most known for his work in the philosophy of religion. His work on the
> evidential argument from evil has been widely influential. He is currently a professor at Purdue University. He is co-editor of
> topics in the philosophy of religion for the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy.
>
>
> Areas of Specialization
>
> Philosophy of Religion
> *** Science and Religion
> *** Probabilistic Reasoning
>
> Areas of Interest
>
> ** Formal Epistemology
> *** General Philosophy of Science
> Philosophy of Consciousness
> *Metaphysics of Mind
> ** Persons
> David Hume

And let me tell you, Podd, that your mission here is more evident than ever.

I told you two years ago, before I left this forum until this July, that you was here with a hidden agenda,
which I told you that it was to defend anything against Einstein and Jewish scientists. I thought that you
was a paid troll, but now I recognize that I was wrong all the time.

You are a very well versed philosopher, with a distinguished career on your fields: Religion, Science and process of mind.

I acknowledge the above, as well as the reasons by which you appeared here 8 years ago. Coincidences? MANY.

1) You're opinionated in almost every field of physics (or chemistry).
2) You are an erudite, with a broad knowledge of what is published and a well substantiated wording in your posts. Intellectual type.
3) You don't know squat about mathematics of physics, which is the reason by which you NEVER engage in posts with such content.
4) I believe that you learnt through 100 books. More, make it 300+. Your job/mission depends on your knowledge about what's written.
5) You make considerable efforts to left religion out of this forum, but I caught you writing about deep stuff that only
an erudite would know.
6) Your efforts to hide your real identity are incredibly good. I congratulate you for your bright intelligence.

But, even when I recognize your personal agenda as TRULY LEGITIMATE, as a deeply religious Jewish, you SHOULD BE more flexible.

Einstein was far from perfect, as any other human on this Earth since the dawn of times.

For that, you should accept that some of his scientific flaws be exposed, without charging against who is posting.

Because one thing is to defend the good things, but to deny the bad things make you an accomplish of anything that's wrong
with physics since 1900, starting with Planck (of whom I've found proofs about HOW he fudged his famous equation).

Finally, the rotten and deviated world at which we live can not be explained without dirty maneuvers to grab and hold power
AT ANY FIELD AND SOCIAL LEVEL: Politics, economy, finance, history, social sciences, hard sciences, HEALTH sciences, etc. (In
this EXACT ORDER).

Wars, killing millions of persons, domination by money and power submission, lies, conspiracies, etc. It's always the same thing.

The order of the jungle.

So, I don't have ANY problem with your personal agenda, nor I pretend that you come out of the "closet".

I only like to understand things, and distinguish REAL from fiction.

By the way, I don't care if you are Paul Draper or any other. But your attempt to pass as a woodworker is becoming pathetic.

Do what you want. It's OK with me, but remember that you're afraid of mathematics, because it never was your thing, philosopher.

Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 1:27:05 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables AND 4 BOOKS PLUS 5 ARTICLES
>
>> Hey Odd, I introduce Paul Droper to you. Curiously, you are both 64
>> y.o., and share the same interests,
>> except that you don't address religious issues here (as it must be).
>>
>> https://alchetron.com/Paul-Draper-(philosopher)
>> https://philpeople.org/profiles/paul-draper
>>
>> Paul Draper (born 1957) is an American philosopher, most known for his
>> work in the philosophy of religion. His work on the
>> evidential argument from evil has been widely influential. He is
>> currently a professor at Purdue University. He is co-editor of
>> topics in the philosophy of religion for the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy.
>>
>>
>> Areas of Specialization
>>
>> Philosophy of Religion
>> *** Science and Religion
>> *** Probabilistic Reasoning
>>
>> Areas of Interest
>>
>> ** Formal Epistemology
>> *** General Philosophy of Science
>> Philosophy of Consciousness
>> *Metaphysics of Mind
>> ** Persons
>> David Hume
>
> And let me tell you, Podd, that your mission here is more evident than ever.
>
> I told you two years ago, before I left this forum until this July, that
> you was here with a hidden agenda,
> which I told you that it was to defend anything against Einstein and
> Jewish scientists. I thought that you
> was a paid troll, but now I recognize that I was wrong all the time.
>
> You are a very well versed philosopher, with a distinguished career on
> your fields: Religion, Science and process of mind.
>
> I acknowledge the above, as well as the reasons by which you appeared
> here 8 years ago. Coincidences? MANY.
>
> 1) You're opinionated in almost every field of physics (or chemistry).
> 2) You are an erudite, with a broad knowledge of what is published and a
> well substantiated wording in your posts. Intellectual type.
> 3) You don't know squat about mathematics of physics, which is the reason
> by which you NEVER engage in posts with such content.
> 4) I believe that you learnt through 100 books. More, make it 300+. Your
> job/mission depends on your knowledge about what's written.
> 5) You make considerable efforts to left religion out of this forum, but
> I caught you writing about deep stuff that only
> an erudite would know.
> 6) Your efforts to hide your real identity are incredibly good. I
> congratulate you for your bright intelligence.

Might I just comment that I find your vigorous conviction first that I’m
42, then 66, then a publisher, then a philosopher, then a Jewish apologist
— all of it is hysterically funny. And you haven’t even gotten yet to the
winemaker in his 80s, the magician in his 40s, or the musician in his 50s.

>
> But, even when I recognize your personal agenda as TRULY LEGITIMATE, as a
> deeply religious Jewish, you SHOULD BE more flexible.
>
> Einstein was far from perfect, as any other human on this Earth since the dawn of times.
>
> For that, you should accept that some of his scientific flaws be exposed,
> without charging against who is posting.
>
> Because one thing is to defend the good things, but to deny the bad
> things make you an accomplish of anything that's wrong
> with physics since 1900, starting with Planck (of whom I've found proofs
> about HOW he fudged his famous equation).
>
> Finally, the rotten and deviated world at which we live can not be
> explained without dirty maneuvers to grab and hold power
> AT ANY FIELD AND SOCIAL LEVEL: Politics, economy, finance, history,
> social sciences, hard sciences, HEALTH sciences, etc. (In
> this EXACT ORDER).
>
> Wars, killing millions of persons, domination by money and power
> submission, lies, conspiracies, etc. It's always the same thing.
>
> The order of the jungle.

Well, you know what they say: when you are filled with poison, you see
poison running everywhere.

It’s just a shame that you have lit on one particular discipline to vent
your nihilistic cynicism about a power-grubbing scourge that you see
running *everywhere*.

>
> So, I don't have ANY problem with your personal agenda, nor I pretend
> that you come out of the "closet".
>
> I only like to understand things, and distinguish REAL from fiction.
>
> By the way, I don't care if you are Paul Draper or any other. But your
> attempt to pass as a woodworker is becoming pathetic.

Oh my. What should I do with my livelihood now and my customers, now that
you’ve outed me as an imposter at my craft? I mean, I have a whole shop bay
filled with imposter-created product scheduled for delivery.

>
> Do what you want. It's OK with me, but remember that you're afraid of
> mathematics, because it never was your thing, philosopher.
>

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Odd Bodkin wrote:
>
> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> If I had to guess, he's probably stalking that Paul Draper guy, what with
> >> the LinkedIn profile and publishing and physics prof and stuff.
> >
> > To use your own words...
> >
> > How on earth did you come up with THAT?
> > How on earth did you come up with THAT?
> > How on earth did you come up with THAT?
> >
> > physics prof and stuff?
> >
> >
> > How on earth did you come up with THAT?
> > How on earth did you come up with THAT?
> > How on earth did you come up with THAT?
> >
> > publishing and physics
> >
> >
> > How on earth did you come up with THAT?
> > How on earth did you come up with THAT?
> > How on earth did you come up with THAT?
> >
> >
> > physics prof???
> >
> >
> > How on earth did you come up with THAT?
> >
>
> Yeah I read his LinkedIn profile when someone put it up a couple days ago.
> OK, so HE looks to be in the age range you’re talking about.
> What does that have to do with me?

LinkedIn profile???? I didn't get September 1956 from LinkedIn...

Is it a coincidence that yous both entered college the same age?

When you entered college at 17...what was your major? It starts with a P , right?

>
> --
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 3:02:31 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 1:27:05 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> >>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables AND 4 BOOKS PLUS 5 ARTICLES
> >
> >> Hey Odd, I introduce Paul Droper to you. Curiously, you are both 64
> >> y.o., and share the same interests,
> >> except that you don't address religious issues here (as it must be).
> >>
> >> https://alchetron.com/Paul-Draper-(philosopher)
> >> https://philpeople.org/profiles/paul-draper
> >>
> >> Paul Draper (born 1957) is an American philosopher, most known for his
> >> work in the philosophy of religion. His work on the
> >> evidential argument from evil has been widely influential. He is
> >> currently a professor at Purdue University. He is co-editor of
> >> topics in the philosophy of religion for the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy.
> >>
> >>
> >> Areas of Specialization
> >>
> >> Philosophy of Religion
> >> *** Science and Religion
> >> *** Probabilistic Reasoning
> >>
> >> Areas of Interest
> >>
> >> ** Formal Epistemology
> >> *** General Philosophy of Science
> >> Philosophy of Consciousness
> >> *Metaphysics of Mind
> >> ** Persons
> >> David Hume
> >
> > And let me tell you, Podd, that your mission here is more evident than ever.
> >
> > I told you two years ago, before I left this forum until this July, that
> > you was here with a hidden agenda,
> > which I told you that it was to defend anything against Einstein and
> > Jewish scientists. I thought that you
> > was a paid troll, but now I recognize that I was wrong all the time.
> >
> > You are a very well versed philosopher, with a distinguished career on
> > your fields: Religion, Science and process of mind.
> >
> > I acknowledge the above, as well as the reasons by which you appeared
> > here 8 years ago. Coincidences? MANY.
> >
> > 1) You're opinionated in almost every field of physics (or chemistry).
> > 2) You are an erudite, with a broad knowledge of what is published and a
> > well substantiated wording in your posts. Intellectual type.
> > 3) You don't know squat about mathematics of physics, which is the reason
> > by which you NEVER engage in posts with such content.
> > 4) I believe that you learnt through 100 books. More, make it 300+. Your
> > job/mission depends on your knowledge about what's written.
> > 5) You make considerable efforts to left religion out of this forum, but
> > I caught you writing about deep stuff that only
> > an erudite would know.
> > 6) Your efforts to hide your real identity are incredibly good. I
> > congratulate you for your bright intelligence.
> Might I just comment that I find your vigorous conviction first that I’m
> 42, then 66, then a publisher, then a philosopher, then a Jewish apologist
> — all of it is hysterically funny. And you haven’t even gotten yet to the
> winemaker in his 80s, the magician in his 40s, or the musician in his 50s..
> >
> > But, even when I recognize your personal agenda as TRULY LEGITIMATE, as a
> > deeply religious Jewish, you SHOULD BE more flexible.
> >
> > Einstein was far from perfect, as any other human on this Earth since the dawn of times.
> >
> > For that, you should accept that some of his scientific flaws be exposed,
> > without charging against who is posting.
> >
> > Because one thing is to defend the good things, but to deny the bad
> > things make you an accomplish of anything that's wrong
> > with physics since 1900, starting with Planck (of whom I've found proofs
> > about HOW he fudged his famous equation).
> >
> > Finally, the rotten and deviated world at which we live can not be
> > explained without dirty maneuvers to grab and hold power
> > AT ANY FIELD AND SOCIAL LEVEL: Politics, economy, finance, history,
> > social sciences, hard sciences, HEALTH sciences, etc. (In
> > this EXACT ORDER).
> >
> > Wars, killing millions of persons, domination by money and power
> > submission, lies, conspiracies, etc. It's always the same thing.
> >
> > The order of the jungle.
> Well, you know what they say: when you are filled with poison, you see
> poison running everywhere.
>
> It’s just a shame that you have lit on one particular discipline to vent
> your nihilistic cynicism about a power-grubbing scourge that you see
> running *everywhere*.
> >
> > So, I don't have ANY problem with your personal agenda, nor I pretend
> > that you come out of the "closet".
> >
> > I only like to understand things, and distinguish REAL from fiction.
> >
> > By the way, I don't care if you are Paul Draper or any other. But your
> > attempt to pass as a woodworker is becoming pathetic.
> Oh my. What should I do with my livelihood now and my customers, now that
> you’ve outed me as an imposter at my craft? I mean, I have a whole shop bay
> filled with imposter-created product scheduled for delivery.
> >
> > Do what you want. It's OK with me, but remember that you're afraid of
> > mathematics, because it never was your thing, philosopher.
> >
> --
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Come on, this is my first Paul Droper attempt on you.
Don't tell me that it wasn't convincing if I would used any other idiot's identity if I had the time.

I just had a couple of minutes while taking a break on some home repairs.

Give me more time, and I'll "prove" that you're the reincarnation of Maxwell Smart.
Some similarities are striking!

On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 3:20:08 AM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 3:02:31 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 1:27:05 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > >>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables AND 4 BOOKS PLUS 5 ARTICLES
> > >
> > >> Hey Odd, I introduce Paul Droper to you. Curiously, you are both 64
> > >> y.o., and share the same interests,
> > >> except that you don't address religious issues here (as it must be).
> > >>
> > >> https://alchetron.com/Paul-Draper-(philosopher)
> > >> https://philpeople.org/profiles/paul-draper
> > >>
> > >> Paul Draper (born 1957) is an American philosopher, most known for his
> > >> work in the philosophy of religion. His work on the
> > >> evidential argument from evil has been widely influential. He is
> > >> currently a professor at Purdue University. He is co-editor of
> > >> topics in the philosophy of religion for the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Areas of Specialization
> > >>
> > >> Philosophy of Religion
> > >> *** Science and Religion
> > >> *** Probabilistic Reasoning
> > >>
> > >> Areas of Interest
> > >>
> > >> ** Formal Epistemology
> > >> *** General Philosophy of Science
> > >> Philosophy of Consciousness
> > >> *Metaphysics of Mind
> > >> ** Persons
> > >> David Hume
> > >
> > > And let me tell you, Podd, that your mission here is more evident than ever.
> > >
> > > I told you two years ago, before I left this forum until this July, that
> > > you was here with a hidden agenda,
> > > which I told you that it was to defend anything against Einstein and
> > > Jewish scientists. I thought that you
> > > was a paid troll, but now I recognize that I was wrong all the time.
> > >
> > > You are a very well versed philosopher, with a distinguished career on
> > > your fields: Religion, Science and process of mind.
> > >
> > > I acknowledge the above, as well as the reasons by which you appeared
> > > here 8 years ago. Coincidences? MANY.
> > >
> > > 1) You're opinionated in almost every field of physics (or chemistry)..
> > > 2) You are an erudite, with a broad knowledge of what is published and a
> > > well substantiated wording in your posts. Intellectual type.
> > > 3) You don't know squat about mathematics of physics, which is the reason
> > > by which you NEVER engage in posts with such content.
> > > 4) I believe that you learnt through 100 books. More, make it 300+. Your
> > > job/mission depends on your knowledge about what's written.
> > > 5) You make considerable efforts to left religion out of this forum, but
> > > I caught you writing about deep stuff that only
> > > an erudite would know.
> > > 6) Your efforts to hide your real identity are incredibly good. I
> > > congratulate you for your bright intelligence.
> > Might I just comment that I find your vigorous conviction first that I’m
> > 42, then 66, then a publisher, then a philosopher, then a Jewish apologist
> > — all of it is hysterically funny. And you haven’t even gotten yet to the
> > winemaker in his 80s, the magician in his 40s, or the musician in his 50s.
> > >
> > > But, even when I recognize your personal agenda as TRULY LEGITIMATE, as a
> > > deeply religious Jewish, you SHOULD BE more flexible.
> > >
> > > Einstein was far from perfect, as any other human on this Earth since the dawn of times.
> > >
> > > For that, you should accept that some of his scientific flaws be exposed,
> > > without charging against who is posting.
> > >
> > > Because one thing is to defend the good things, but to deny the bad
> > > things make you an accomplish of anything that's wrong
> > > with physics since 1900, starting with Planck (of whom I've found proofs
> > > about HOW he fudged his famous equation).
> > >
> > > Finally, the rotten and deviated world at which we live can not be
> > > explained without dirty maneuvers to grab and hold power
> > > AT ANY FIELD AND SOCIAL LEVEL: Politics, economy, finance, history,
> > > social sciences, hard sciences, HEALTH sciences, etc. (In
> > > this EXACT ORDER).
> > >
> > > Wars, killing millions of persons, domination by money and power
> > > submission, lies, conspiracies, etc. It's always the same thing.
> > >
> > > The order of the jungle.
> > Well, you know what they say: when you are filled with poison, you see
> > poison running everywhere.
> >
> > It’s just a shame that you have lit on one particular discipline to vent
> > your nihilistic cynicism about a power-grubbing scourge that you see
> > running *everywhere*.
> > >
> > > So, I don't have ANY problem with your personal agenda, nor I pretend
> > > that you come out of the "closet".
> > >
> > > I only like to understand things, and distinguish REAL from fiction.
> > >
> > > By the way, I don't care if you are Paul Draper or any other. But your
> > > attempt to pass as a woodworker is becoming pathetic.
> > Oh my. What should I do with my livelihood now and my customers, now that
> > you’ve outed me as an imposter at my craft? I mean, I have a whole shop bay
> > filled with imposter-created product scheduled for delivery.
> > >
> > > Do what you want. It's OK with me, but remember that you're afraid of
> > > mathematics, because it never was your thing, philosopher.
> > >
> > --
> > Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> Come on, this is my first Paul Droper attempt on you.
> Don't tell me that it wasn't convincing if I would used any other idiot's identity if I had the time.
>
> I just had a couple of minutes while taking a break on some home repairs.
>
> Give me more time, and I'll "prove" that you're the reincarnation of Maxwell Smart.
> Some similarities are striking!

By the way, have you read "On Heroes and Tombs", by Ernesto Sabato, an Argentinian writer known worldwide?

He was a failed physicist too. Abandoned it and became a fiction writer, competing with Borges.

He was a philosopher, mostly. You are a philosopher, mostly (keen aware of what's published, by the way).

ARE YOU ERNESTO SABATO?

Den 08.12.2021 07:26, skrev Richard Hertz:
> On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 3:20:08 AM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote:
>> Come on, this is my first Paul Droper attempt on you.
>> Don't tell me that it wasn't convincing if I would used any other idiot's identity if I had the time.
>>
>> I just had a couple of minutes while taking a break on some home repairs.
>>
>> Give me more time, and I'll "prove" that you're the reincarnation of Maxwell Smart.
>> Some similarities are striking!
>
> By the way, have you read "On Heroes and Tombs", by Ernesto Sabato, an Argentinian writer known worldwide?
>
> He was a failed physicist too. Abandoned it and became a fiction writer, competing with Borges.
>
> He was a philosopher, mostly. You are a philosopher, mostly (keen aware of what's published, by the way).
>
> ARE YOU ERNESTO SABATO?
>

ARE YOU ARCHIMEDES PLUTONIUM?

Some similarities are striking!

--
Paul

https://paulba.no/

The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>
>> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>> Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> If I had to guess, he's probably stalking that Paul Draper guy, what with
>>>> the LinkedIn profile and publishing and physics prof and stuff.
>>>
>>> To use your own words...
>>>
>>> How on earth did you come up with THAT?
>>> How on earth did you come up with THAT?
>>> How on earth did you come up with THAT?
>>>
>>> physics prof and stuff?
>>>
>>>
>>> How on earth did you come up with THAT?
>>> How on earth did you come up with THAT?
>>> How on earth did you come up with THAT?
>>>
>>> publishing and physics
>>>
>>>
>>> How on earth did you come up with THAT?
>>> How on earth did you come up with THAT?
>>> How on earth did you come up with THAT?
>>>
>>>
>>> physics prof???
>>>
>>>
>>> How on earth did you come up with THAT?
>>>
>>
>> Yeah I read his LinkedIn profile when someone put it up a couple days ago.
>> OK, so HE looks to be in the age range you’re talking about.
>> What does that have to do with me?
>
> LinkedIn profile???? I didn't get September 1956 from LinkedIn...

OK, so you didn’t get that from LInkedIn, but from some other source. Which
Paul Draper does the September 1956 apply to, the publisher, the
philosopher, the musician, the magician, or the vintner?

>
> Is it a coincidence that yous both entered college the same age?

Well, since most people enter at 17 or 18, no I don’t think that’s
remarkable, do you?

>
> When you entered college at 17...what was your major? It starts with a P , right?

Pathematics? Pomputer Science? That’s what I entered with as a major.
Dropped one.

>
>
>
>
>>
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 3:02:31 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 1:27:05 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables AND 4 BOOKS PLUS 5 ARTICLES
>>>
>>>> Hey Odd, I introduce Paul Droper to you. Curiously, you are both 64
>>>> y.o., and share the same interests,
>>>> except that you don't address religious issues here (as it must be).
>>>>
>>>> https://alchetron.com/Paul-Draper-(philosopher)
>>>> https://philpeople.org/profiles/paul-draper
>>>>
>>>> Paul Draper (born 1957) is an American philosopher, most known for his
>>>> work in the philosophy of religion. His work on the
>>>> evidential argument from evil has been widely influential. He is
>>>> currently a professor at Purdue University. He is co-editor of
>>>> topics in the philosophy of religion for the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Areas of Specialization
>>>>
>>>> Philosophy of Religion
>>>> *** Science and Religion
>>>> *** Probabilistic Reasoning
>>>>
>>>> Areas of Interest
>>>>
>>>> ** Formal Epistemology
>>>> *** General Philosophy of Science
>>>> Philosophy of Consciousness
>>>> *Metaphysics of Mind
>>>> ** Persons
>>>> David Hume
>>>
>>> And let me tell you, Podd, that your mission here is more evident than ever.
>>>
>>> I told you two years ago, before I left this forum until this July, that
>>> you was here with a hidden agenda,
>>> which I told you that it was to defend anything against Einstein and
>>> Jewish scientists. I thought that you
>>> was a paid troll, but now I recognize that I was wrong all the time.
>>>
>>> You are a very well versed philosopher, with a distinguished career on
>>> your fields: Religion, Science and process of mind.
>>>
>>> I acknowledge the above, as well as the reasons by which you appeared
>>> here 8 years ago. Coincidences? MANY.
>>>
>>> 1) You're opinionated in almost every field of physics (or chemistry).
>>> 2) You are an erudite, with a broad knowledge of what is published and a
>>> well substantiated wording in your posts. Intellectual type.
>>> 3) You don't know squat about mathematics of physics, which is the reason
>>> by which you NEVER engage in posts with such content.
>>> 4) I believe that you learnt through 100 books. More, make it 300+. Your
>>> job/mission depends on your knowledge about what's written.
>>> 5) You make considerable efforts to left religion out of this forum, but
>>> I caught you writing about deep stuff that only
>>> an erudite would know.
>>> 6) Your efforts to hide your real identity are incredibly good. I
>>> congratulate you for your bright intelligence.
>> Might I just comment that I find your vigorous conviction first that I’m
>> 42, then 66, then a publisher, then a philosopher, then a Jewish apologist
>> — all of it is hysterically funny. And you haven’t even gotten yet to the
>> winemaker in his 80s, the magician in his 40s, or the musician in his 50s.
>>>
>>> But, even when I recognize your personal agenda as TRULY LEGITIMATE, as a
>>> deeply religious Jewish, you SHOULD BE more flexible.
>>>
>>> Einstein was far from perfect, as any other human on this Earth since the dawn of times.
>>>
>>> For that, you should accept that some of his scientific flaws be exposed,
>>> without charging against who is posting.
>>>
>>> Because one thing is to defend the good things, but to deny the bad
>>> things make you an accomplish of anything that's wrong
>>> with physics since 1900, starting with Planck (of whom I've found proofs
>>> about HOW he fudged his famous equation).
>>>
>>> Finally, the rotten and deviated world at which we live can not be
>>> explained without dirty maneuvers to grab and hold power
>>> AT ANY FIELD AND SOCIAL LEVEL: Politics, economy, finance, history,
>>> social sciences, hard sciences, HEALTH sciences, etc. (In
>>> this EXACT ORDER).
>>>
>>> Wars, killing millions of persons, domination by money and power
>>> submission, lies, conspiracies, etc. It's always the same thing.
>>>
>>> The order of the jungle.
>> Well, you know what they say: when you are filled with poison, you see
>> poison running everywhere.
>>
>> It’s just a shame that you have lit on one particular discipline to vent
>> your nihilistic cynicism about a power-grubbing scourge that you see
>> running *everywhere*.
>>>
>>> So, I don't have ANY problem with your personal agenda, nor I pretend
>>> that you come out of the "closet".
>>>
>>> I only like to understand things, and distinguish REAL from fiction.
>>>
>>> By the way, I don't care if you are Paul Draper or any other. But your
>>> attempt to pass as a woodworker is becoming pathetic.
>> Oh my. What should I do with my livelihood now and my customers, now that
>> you’ve outed me as an imposter at my craft? I mean, I have a whole shop bay
>> filled with imposter-created product scheduled for delivery.
>>>
>>> Do what you want. It's OK with me, but remember that you're afraid of
>>> mathematics, because it never was your thing, philosopher.
>>>
>> --
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>
> Come on, this is my first Paul Droper attempt on you.
> Don't tell me that it wasn't convincing if I would used any other idiot's
> identity if I had the time.
>
> I just had a couple of minutes while taking a break on some home repairs.
>
> Give me more time, and I'll "prove" that you're the reincarnation of Maxwell Smart.
> Some similarities are striking!
>

And what, exactly, would be the *value* of “proving” that I’m the
reincarnation of Maxwell Smart? For someone who seems to be ranting a lot
lately about human survival being on the brink and that we must all focus
on practical matters to solve that, you sure seem bent on wasting your time
on pointless and prodigious prattling about stupid things.

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 3:20:08 AM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote:
>> On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 3:02:31 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 1:27:05 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables AND 4 BOOKS PLUS 5 ARTICLES
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Odd, I introduce Paul Droper to you. Curiously, you are both 64
>>>>> y.o., and share the same interests,
>>>>> except that you don't address religious issues here (as it must be).
>>>>>
>>>>> https://alchetron.com/Paul-Draper-(philosopher)
>>>>> https://philpeople.org/profiles/paul-draper
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul Draper (born 1957) is an American philosopher, most known for his
>>>>> work in the philosophy of religion. His work on the
>>>>> evidential argument from evil has been widely influential. He is
>>>>> currently a professor at Purdue University. He is co-editor of
>>>>> topics in the philosophy of religion for the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Areas of Specialization
>>>>>
>>>>> Philosophy of Religion
>>>>> *** Science and Religion
>>>>> *** Probabilistic Reasoning
>>>>>
>>>>> Areas of Interest
>>>>>
>>>>> ** Formal Epistemology
>>>>> *** General Philosophy of Science
>>>>> Philosophy of Consciousness
>>>>> *Metaphysics of Mind
>>>>> ** Persons
>>>>> David Hume
>>>>
>>>> And let me tell you, Podd, that your mission here is more evident than ever.
>>>>
>>>> I told you two years ago, before I left this forum until this July, that
>>>> you was here with a hidden agenda,
>>>> which I told you that it was to defend anything against Einstein and
>>>> Jewish scientists. I thought that you
>>>> was a paid troll, but now I recognize that I was wrong all the time.
>>>>
>>>> You are a very well versed philosopher, with a distinguished career on
>>>> your fields: Religion, Science and process of mind.
>>>>
>>>> I acknowledge the above, as well as the reasons by which you appeared
>>>> here 8 years ago. Coincidences? MANY.
>>>>
>>>> 1) You're opinionated in almost every field of physics (or chemistry).
>>>> 2) You are an erudite, with a broad knowledge of what is published and a
>>>> well substantiated wording in your posts. Intellectual type.
>>>> 3) You don't know squat about mathematics of physics, which is the reason
>>>> by which you NEVER engage in posts with such content.
>>>> 4) I believe that you learnt through 100 books. More, make it 300+. Your
>>>> job/mission depends on your knowledge about what's written.
>>>> 5) You make considerable efforts to left religion out of this forum, but
>>>> I caught you writing about deep stuff that only
>>>> an erudite would know.
>>>> 6) Your efforts to hide your real identity are incredibly good. I
>>>> congratulate you for your bright intelligence.
>>> Might I just comment that I find your vigorous conviction first that I’m
>>> 42, then 66, then a publisher, then a philosopher, then a Jewish apologist
>>> — all of it is hysterically funny. And you haven’t even gotten yet to the
>>> winemaker in his 80s, the magician in his 40s, or the musician in his 50s.
>>>>
>>>> But, even when I recognize your personal agenda as TRULY LEGITIMATE, as a
>>>> deeply religious Jewish, you SHOULD BE more flexible.
>>>>
>>>> Einstein was far from perfect, as any other human on this Earth since
>>>> the dawn of times.
>>>>
>>>> For that, you should accept that some of his scientific flaws be exposed,
>>>> without charging against who is posting.
>>>>
>>>> Because one thing is to defend the good things, but to deny the bad
>>>> things make you an accomplish of anything that's wrong
>>>> with physics since 1900, starting with Planck (of whom I've found proofs
>>>> about HOW he fudged his famous equation).
>>>>
>>>> Finally, the rotten and deviated world at which we live can not be
>>>> explained without dirty maneuvers to grab and hold power
>>>> AT ANY FIELD AND SOCIAL LEVEL: Politics, economy, finance, history,
>>>> social sciences, hard sciences, HEALTH sciences, etc. (In
>>>> this EXACT ORDER).
>>>>
>>>> Wars, killing millions of persons, domination by money and power
>>>> submission, lies, conspiracies, etc. It's always the same thing.
>>>>
>>>> The order of the jungle.
>>> Well, you know what they say: when you are filled with poison, you see
>>> poison running everywhere.
>>>
>>> It’s just a shame that you have lit on one particular discipline to vent
>>> your nihilistic cynicism about a power-grubbing scourge that you see
>>> running *everywhere*.
>>>>
>>>> So, I don't have ANY problem with your personal agenda, nor I pretend
>>>> that you come out of the "closet".
>>>>
>>>> I only like to understand things, and distinguish REAL from fiction.
>>>>
>>>> By the way, I don't care if you are Paul Draper or any other. But your
>>>> attempt to pass as a woodworker is becoming pathetic.
>>> Oh my. What should I do with my livelihood now and my customers, now that
>>> you’ve outed me as an imposter at my craft? I mean, I have a whole shop bay
>>> filled with imposter-created product scheduled for delivery.
>>>>
>>>> Do what you want. It's OK with me, but remember that you're afraid of
>>>> mathematics, because it never was your thing, philosopher.
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>> Come on, this is my first Paul Droper attempt on you.
>> Don't tell me that it wasn't convincing if I would used any other
>> idiot's identity if I had the time.
>>
>> I just had a couple of minutes while taking a break on some home repairs.
>>
>> Give me more time, and I'll "prove" that you're the reincarnation of Maxwell Smart.
>> Some similarities are striking!
>
> By the way, have you read "On Heroes and Tombs", by Ernesto Sabato, an
> Argentinian writer known worldwide?
>
> He was a failed physicist too. Abandoned it and became a fiction writer,
> competing with Borges.
>
> He was a philosopher, mostly. You are a philosopher, mostly (keen aware
> of what's published, by the way).
>
> ARE YOU ERNESTO SABATO?
>

I failed to attend my own funeral a decade ago.
As for awareness of what’s published, I never shop for books. I just read
what falls out of the sky into my back yard.

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

El miércoles, 8 de diciembre de 2021 a las 11:19:25 UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com escribió:
> Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 3:02:31 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 1:27:05 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote:
> >>>
> >>> <snip>
> >>>
> >>>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables AND 4 BOOKS PLUS 5 ARTICLES
> >>>
> >>>> Hey Odd, I introduce Paul Droper to you. Curiously, you are both 64
> >>>> y.o., and share the same interests,
> >>>> except that you don't address religious issues here (as it must be).
> >>>>
> >>>> https://alchetron.com/Paul-Draper-(philosopher)
> >>>> https://philpeople.org/profiles/paul-draper
> >>>>
> >>>> Paul Draper (born 1957) is an American philosopher, most known for his
> >>>> work in the philosophy of religion. His work on the
> >>>> evidential argument from evil has been widely influential. He is
> >>>> currently a professor at Purdue University. He is co-editor of
> >>>> topics in the philosophy of religion for the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Areas of Specialization
> >>>>
> >>>> Philosophy of Religion
> >>>> *** Science and Religion
> >>>> *** Probabilistic Reasoning
> >>>>
> >>>> Areas of Interest
> >>>>
> >>>> ** Formal Epistemology
> >>>> *** General Philosophy of Science
> >>>> Philosophy of Consciousness
> >>>> *Metaphysics of Mind
> >>>> ** Persons
> >>>> David Hume
> >>>
> >>> And let me tell you, Podd, that your mission here is more evident than ever.
> >>>
> >>> I told you two years ago, before I left this forum until this July, that
> >>> you was here with a hidden agenda,
> >>> which I told you that it was to defend anything against Einstein and
> >>> Jewish scientists. I thought that you
> >>> was a paid troll, but now I recognize that I was wrong all the time.
> >>>
> >>> You are a very well versed philosopher, with a distinguished career on
> >>> your fields: Religion, Science and process of mind.
> >>>
> >>> I acknowledge the above, as well as the reasons by which you appeared
> >>> here 8 years ago. Coincidences? MANY.
> >>>
> >>> 1) You're opinionated in almost every field of physics (or chemistry)..
> >>> 2) You are an erudite, with a broad knowledge of what is published and a
> >>> well substantiated wording in your posts. Intellectual type.
> >>> 3) You don't know squat about mathematics of physics, which is the reason
> >>> by which you NEVER engage in posts with such content.
> >>> 4) I believe that you learnt through 100 books. More, make it 300+. Your
> >>> job/mission depends on your knowledge about what's written.
> >>> 5) You make considerable efforts to left religion out of this forum, but
> >>> I caught you writing about deep stuff that only
> >>> an erudite would know.
> >>> 6) Your efforts to hide your real identity are incredibly good. I
> >>> congratulate you for your bright intelligence.
> >> Might I just comment that I find your vigorous conviction first that I’m
> >> 42, then 66, then a publisher, then a philosopher, then a Jewish apologist
> >> — all of it is hysterically funny. And you haven’t even gotten yet to the
> >> winemaker in his 80s, the magician in his 40s, or the musician in his 50s.
> >>>
> >>> But, even when I recognize your personal agenda as TRULY LEGITIMATE, as a
> >>> deeply religious Jewish, you SHOULD BE more flexible.
> >>>
> >>> Einstein was far from perfect, as any other human on this Earth since the dawn of times.
> >>>
> >>> For that, you should accept that some of his scientific flaws be exposed,
> >>> without charging against who is posting.
> >>>
> >>> Because one thing is to defend the good things, but to deny the bad
> >>> things make you an accomplish of anything that's wrong
> >>> with physics since 1900, starting with Planck (of whom I've found proofs
> >>> about HOW he fudged his famous equation).
> >>>
> >>> Finally, the rotten and deviated world at which we live can not be
> >>> explained without dirty maneuvers to grab and hold power
> >>> AT ANY FIELD AND SOCIAL LEVEL: Politics, economy, finance, history,
> >>> social sciences, hard sciences, HEALTH sciences, etc. (In
> >>> this EXACT ORDER).
> >>>
> >>> Wars, killing millions of persons, domination by money and power
> >>> submission, lies, conspiracies, etc. It's always the same thing.
> >>>
> >>> The order of the jungle.
> >> Well, you know what they say: when you are filled with poison, you see
> >> poison running everywhere.
> >>
> >> It’s just a shame that you have lit on one particular discipline to vent
> >> your nihilistic cynicism about a power-grubbing scourge that you see
> >> running *everywhere*.
> >>>
> >>> So, I don't have ANY problem with your personal agenda, nor I pretend
> >>> that you come out of the "closet".
> >>>
> >>> I only like to understand things, and distinguish REAL from fiction.
> >>>
> >>> By the way, I don't care if you are Paul Draper or any other. But your
> >>> attempt to pass as a woodworker is becoming pathetic.
> >> Oh my. What should I do with my livelihood now and my customers, now that
> >> you’ve outed me as an imposter at my craft? I mean, I have a whole shop bay
> >> filled with imposter-created product scheduled for delivery.
> >>>
> >>> Do what you want. It's OK with me, but remember that you're afraid of
> >>> mathematics, because it never was your thing, philosopher.
> >>>
> >> --
> >> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> >
> > Come on, this is my first Paul Droper attempt on you.
> > Don't tell me that it wasn't convincing if I would used any other idiot's
> > identity if I had the time.
> >
> > I just had a couple of minutes while taking a break on some home repairs.
> >
> > Give me more time, and I'll "prove" that you're the reincarnation of Maxwell Smart.
> > Some similarities are striking!
> >
> And what, exactly, would be the *value* of “proving” that I’m the
> reincarnation of Maxwell Smart? For someone who seems to be ranting a lot
> lately about human survival being on the brink and that we must all focus
> on practical matters to solve that, you sure seem bent on wasting your time
> on pointless and prodigious prattling about stupid things.
> --
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

It is quite funny that this "Richard Hertz" character, which is totally unknown (no web pages, publications, patents, etc) minds so much of the personal information of some of us. He recognizes been an argentinian and alledgelly an electrical engineer.

Fortunately, we do not have the same motivation here.

On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 8:19:26 AM UTC-6, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:

> I failed to attend my own funeral a decade ago.
> As for awareness of what’s published, I never shop for books. I just read
> what falls out of the sky into my back yard.

After some strong winds blew through my neighborhood a few years
ago, blowing down fences and damaging roofs, I found some
Watchtower society leaflets among the debris in my back yard.
Some interesting physics...

Odd Bodkin wrote:
>
> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>
> >> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>> Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> If I had to guess, he's probably stalking that Paul Draper guy, what with
> >>>> the LinkedIn profile and publishing and physics prof and stuff.
> >>>
> >>> To use your own words...
> >>>
> >>> How on earth did you come up with THAT?
> >>> How on earth did you come up with THAT?
> >>> How on earth did you come up with THAT?
> >>>
> >>> physics prof and stuff?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> How on earth did you come up with THAT?
> >>> How on earth did you come up with THAT?
> >>> How on earth did you come up with THAT?
> >>>
> >>> publishing and physics
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> How on earth did you come up with THAT?
> >>> How on earth did you come up with THAT?
> >>> How on earth did you come up with THAT?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> physics prof???
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> How on earth did you come up with THAT?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Yeah I read his LinkedIn profile when someone put it up a couple days ago.
> >> OK, so HE looks to be in the age range you're talking about.
> >> What does that have to do with me?
> >
> > LinkedIn profile???? I didn't get September 1956 from LinkedIn...
>
> OK, so you didn't get that from LInkedIn, but from some other source. Which
> Paul Draper does the September 1956 apply to, the publisher, the
> philosopher, the musician, the magician, or the vintner?
>
> >
> > Is it a coincidence that yous both entered college the same age?
>
> Well, since most people enter at 17 or 18, no I don't think that's
> remarkable, do you?

I didn't get to list all the 'similarities'...that was just one.

Why just in this thread today you mentioned 'another' ...similarity.

"I just read what falls out of the sky into my back yard."

You probably cannot see it, so I'll have to point it out to you...

"back yard".

You both 'have' a back yard.

Now, I'm from New York City...even millionaires and billionaires don't have a back yard.

I guess in the world you're from you think everyone has a.. back yard.

So, ...fact, you both entered college at the age of 17 , and you both have "back yard"s.

The more similarities one finds, eventually it just narrows down to...one person, and not just some parallel universe.

>
> >
> > When you entered college at 17...what was your major? It starts with a P , right?
>
> Pathematics? Pomputer Science? That's what I entered with as a major.
> Dropped one.

you forgot pizza.

But 'Why' Physics????

I'll tell you why...

Bill Gates today wants all children in the world to learn coding.

He's trafficking in children.

The 'scientific community' mandated dat Science should be taught in skools to children.

They are trafficking in children.

They are looking for the next Einstein. To indoctrinate into their 'community' of cosmic religion.

But the next Einstein today is coding...probably the next Randsomeware.

You odd got kidnapped.

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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.