After wasting most of April, I'm trying to get consistent mileage.

Something that I thought of was the age of some of my stuff. I realized
that the oldest stuff that I use:

- Hardware: I have a set of 1st generation Look pedals that still serve
me nicely.

- Clothing: I have a set of acrylic arm warmers that I use regularly
when it's cold.

I got the pedals used in 1990, and I think I got the arm warmers about a
year or two before that.

What's your oldest stuff that you use regularly?

Smith

NFN Smith <worldoff9908@gmail.com> wrote:
> After wasting most of April, I'm trying to get consistent mileage.
>
> Something that I thought of was the age of some of my stuff. I realized
> that the oldest stuff that I use:
>
> - Hardware: I have a set of 1st generation Look pedals that still serve
> me nicely.
>
> - Clothing: I have a set of acrylic arm warmers that I use regularly
> when it's cold.
>
> I got the pedals used in 1990, and I think I got the arm warmers about a
> year or two before that.
>
> What's your oldest stuff that you use regularly?
>
> Smith
>

Nothing that old, oldest would be the commute bike which was a hardtail MTB
which I bought new in 2006.

Clothes etc don’t last that long, nor stuff like pedals which get impacts
and used in mucky conditions.

Roger Merriman

Am 26.04.2023 um 11:26 schrieb Roger Meriman:
> NFN Smith <worldoff9908@gmail.com> wrote:
>> After wasting most of April, I'm trying to get consistent mileage.
>>
>> Something that I thought of was the age of some of my stuff. I realized
>> that the oldest stuff that I use:
>>
>> - Hardware: I have a set of 1st generation Look pedals that still serve
>> me nicely.
>>
>> - Clothing: I have a set of acrylic arm warmers that I use regularly
>> when it's cold.
>>
>> I got the pedals used in 1990, and I think I got the arm warmers about a
>> year or two before that.
>>
>> What's your oldest stuff that you use regularly?

> Clothes etc don’t last that long, nor stuff like pedals which get impacts
> and used in mucky conditions.

In 1990, I was still a school kid living with my parents. Nothing I had
then was worth keeping, except the socks hand-knitted by my mum.

I bought a Gore Wind Breaker as a student around 1995, it's still almost
like new. All the bicycling hardware from my student times (e.g. a
Claud Butler USWB tandem from the 1950's) stayed in UK when I left or
was stolen during my year in the US (Kingcycle recumbent).

Rolf

On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 20:40:43 -0700, NFN Smith <worldoff9908@gmail.com>
wrote:

>After wasting most of April, I'm trying to get consistent mileage.
>
>Something that I thought of was the age of some of my stuff. I realized
>that the oldest stuff that I use:
>
>- Hardware: I have a set of 1st generation Look pedals that still serve
>me nicely.
>
>- Clothing: I have a set of acrylic arm warmers that I use regularly
>when it's cold.
>
>I got the pedals used in 1990, and I think I got the arm warmers about a
>year or two before that.
>
>What's your oldest stuff that you use regularly?
>
>Smith

I have several Lands End bags, briefcases, and luggage items that I
bought or was gifted back in the early eighties when I knew several
people who worked at their headquarters and got a substantial
discount. My winter coat and several shirts are also from that source
and time frame.

On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 11:40:49 PM UTC-4, NFN Smith wrote:
> After wasting most of April, I'm trying to get consistent mileage.
>
> Something that I thought of was the age of some of my stuff. I realized
> that the oldest stuff that I use:
>
> - Hardware: I have a set of 1st generation Look pedals that still serve
> me nicely.
>
> - Clothing: I have a set of acrylic arm warmers that I use regularly
> when it's cold.
>
> I got the pedals used in 1990, and I think I got the arm warmers about a
> year or two before that.
>
> What's your oldest stuff that you use regularly?
>
> Smith

I have a lot of clothing from the early 90's that I still wear, mostly old kits from the first team I rode for, but the oldest clothing I still wear is a pair of Bellweather shorts with a synthetic chamois I bought in ~ 1987. I still use a pair of Time shoes I bought in ~ 1989, but only on the trainer indoors.

For hardware The oldest bike I still regularly ride is a 1985 Ross Signature (Tom Kellogg design, Ishiwata tubing) set up as a fixed gear. To be honest though I bought the bike ~ 2002.

The crankset on Ross is the original Campy NR that came on my first real racing bike - a 1984 Basso Gap I bought new (now fully restored with vintage Campy SR and hanging on my foyer wall).

My oldest MTB is a 1998 Proflex K2/3000, still set up pretty much the way I got it back then with a Girven Elite fork and Deore XT 8 speed. I run some home made ice tires and only use it in the winter.

On 4/25/2023 10:40 PM, NFN Smith wrote:
> After wasting most of April, I'm trying to get consistent
> mileage.
>
> Something that I thought of was the age of some of my
> stuff. I realized that the oldest stuff that I use:
>
> - Hardware: I have a set of 1st generation Look pedals that
> still serve me nicely.
>
> - Clothing: I have a set of acrylic arm warmers that I use
> regularly when it's cold.
>
> I got the pedals used in 1990, and I think I got the arm
> warmers about a year or two before that.
>
> What's your oldest stuff that you use regularly?
>
> Smith

My beloved 1953 Raleigh Sports.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Wed, 26 Apr 2023 08:12:16 -0500,
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> On 4/25/2023 10:40 PM, NFN Smith wrote:
> > After wasting most of April, I'm trying to get consistent
> > mileage.
> >
> > Something that I thought of was the age of some of my
> > stuff. I realized that the oldest stuff that I use:
> >
> > - Hardware: I have a set of 1st generation Look pedals that
> > still serve me nicely.
> >
> > - Clothing: I have a set of acrylic arm warmers that I use
> > regularly when it's cold.
> >
> > I got the pedals used in 1990, and I think I got the arm
> > warmers about a year or two before that.
> >
> > What's your oldest stuff that you use regularly?
> >
> > Smith
>
> My beloved 1953 Raleigh Sports.

I have a set of Campagnolo Super Leggeri Pedals gifted from a
friend who had them on an old Schwinn Paramount. Think these
would have been from the 70s--so not as old as Andrew's bike.

I think these pedals are currently on my (*much* newer) fixed gear
bike. I like the setup with toe clips and straps because it lets
me ride in loafers (and casual clothes) for commuting to work.

--
Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> West Lafayette, IN, USA

My main road bike, which is a ~1986 Schwinn Paramount made from Columbus SLX tubing. I believe it was made in Waterford, WI. It still has its original Campy low-flange, loose-bearing hubs, but now with Mavic Open Sport rims and the original Campy sidepull caliper brakes. The original Campy crankset broke during a sprint and gave me some bruises and roadrash, so I'm now using a "no-name brand" compact crankset, a 9-speed cassette and the Campy friction shifters on the down tube.

On 4/26/2023 8:29 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Apr 2023 08:12:16 -0500,
> AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>> On 4/25/2023 10:40 PM, NFN Smith wrote:
>>> After wasting most of April, I'm trying to get consistent
>>> mileage.
>>>
>>> Something that I thought of was the age of some of my
>>> stuff. I realized that the oldest stuff that I use:
>>>
>>> - Hardware: I have a set of 1st generation Look pedals that
>>> still serve me nicely.
>>>
>>> - Clothing: I have a set of acrylic arm warmers that I use
>>> regularly when it's cold.
>>>
>>> I got the pedals used in 1990, and I think I got the arm
>>> warmers about a year or two before that.
>>>
>>> What's your oldest stuff that you use regularly?
>>>
>>> Smith
>>
>> My beloved 1953 Raleigh Sports.
>
> I have a set of Campagnolo Super Leggeri Pedals gifted from a
> friend who had them on an old Schwinn Paramount. Think these
> would have been from the 70s--so not as old as Andrew's bike.
>
> I think these pedals are currently on my (*much* newer) fixed gear
> bike. I like the setup with toe clips and straps because it lets
> me ride in loafers (and casual clothes) for commuting to work.
>

+1

Flat pedals, toeclip pedals, clipless or MTB clipless all
have a place. Just not the same place.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 4/25/2023 11:40 PM, NFN Smith wrote:
> After wasting most of April, I'm trying to get consistent mileage.
>
> Something that I thought of was the age of some of my stuff.  I realized
> that the oldest stuff that I use:
>
> - Hardware: I have a set of 1st generation Look pedals that still serve
> me nicely.
>
> - Clothing: I have a set of acrylic arm warmers that I use regularly
> when it's cold.
>
> I got the pedals used in 1990, and I think I got the arm warmers about a
> year or two before that.
>
> What's your oldest stuff that you use regularly?

Almost everything on my utility bike is at least 30 years old. It just
keeps working. The frame is 51 years old.

Our tandem was made in 1979. Hubs and cranks, bottom brackets and some
chainrings are original. I think the front stem may be original too.

--
- Frank Krygowski

NFN Smith <worldoff9908@gmail.com> writes:

> After wasting most of April, I'm trying to get consistent mileage.
>
> Something that I thought of was the age of some of my stuff. I
> realized that the oldest stuff that I use:
>
> - Hardware: I have a set of 1st generation Look pedals that still
> serve me nicely.
>
> - Clothing: I have a set of acrylic arm warmers that I use regularly
> when it's cold.
>
> I got the pedals used in 1990, and I think I got the arm warmers about
> a year or two before that.
>
> What's your oldest stuff that you use regularly?

1978 Puch Marco Polo. Rode it to work this morning.

On 4/25/23 8:40 PM, NFN Smith wrote:
> After wasting most of April, I'm trying to get consistent mileage.
>
> Something that I thought of was the age of some of my stuff.  I realized
> that the oldest stuff that I use:
>
> - Hardware: I have a set of 1st generation Look pedals that still serve
> me nicely.
>
> - Clothing: I have a set of acrylic arm warmers that I use regularly
> when it's cold.
>
> I got the pedals used in 1990, and I think I got the arm warmers about a
> year or two before that.
>
> What's your oldest stuff that you use regularly?
>

My road bike which was custom-assembled in 1982. It is the only road
bike I have and it sees 3000-4000 miles per year. Good old non-indexed
down-tube shifters and all. I've had riders ask me "Why are you reaching
down but don't grab the bottle?"

Some of the stuff I added onto it is older, like a large reflector from
the late 70's and a transistor to regulate a lighting voltage which is
early 70's. Then some cloth-insulated (!) wire from my grandpa that is
about 100 years old. Not sure if such small items count.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 12:27:46 PM UTC-5, Joerg wrote:
> On 4/25/23 8:40 PM, NFN Smith wrote:
> > After wasting most of April, I'm trying to get consistent mileage.
> >
> > Something that I thought of was the age of some of my stuff. I realized
> > that the oldest stuff that I use:
> >
> > - Hardware: I have a set of 1st generation Look pedals that still serve
> > me nicely.
> >
> > - Clothing: I have a set of acrylic arm warmers that I use regularly
> > when it's cold.
> >
> > I got the pedals used in 1990, and I think I got the arm warmers about a
> > year or two before that.
> >
> > What's your oldest stuff that you use regularly?
> >
> My road bike which was custom-assembled in 1982. It is the only road
> bike I have and it sees 3000-4000 miles per year. Good old non-indexed
> down-tube shifters and all. I've had riders ask me "Why are you reaching
> down but don't grab the bottle?"
>
> Some of the stuff I added onto it is older, like a large reflector from
> the late 70's and a transistor to regulate a lighting voltage which is
> early 70's. Then some cloth-insulated (!) wire from my grandpa that is
> about 100 years old. Not sure if such small items count.
>
> --
> Regards, Joerg
>
> http://www.analogconsultants.com/
My Shimano 105 road pedals I would say are 9.5 years old.
Deacon Mark

On 4/26/23 10:33 AM, Mark Cleary wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 12:27:46 PM UTC-5, Joerg wrote:
>> On 4/25/23 8:40 PM, NFN Smith wrote:
>>> After wasting most of April, I'm trying to get consistent mileage.
>>>
>>> Something that I thought of was the age of some of my stuff. I realized
>>> that the oldest stuff that I use:
>>>
>>> - Hardware: I have a set of 1st generation Look pedals that still serve
>>> me nicely.
>>>
>>> - Clothing: I have a set of acrylic arm warmers that I use regularly
>>> when it's cold.
>>>
>>> I got the pedals used in 1990, and I think I got the arm warmers about a
>>> year or two before that.
>>>
>>> What's your oldest stuff that you use regularly?
>>>
>> My road bike which was custom-assembled in 1982. It is the only road
>> bike I have and it sees 3000-4000 miles per year. Good old non-indexed
>> down-tube shifters and all. I've had riders ask me "Why are you reaching
>> down but don't grab the bottle?"
>>
>> Some of the stuff I added onto it is older, like a large reflector from
>> the late 70's and a transistor to regulate a lighting voltage which is
>> early 70's. Then some cloth-insulated (!) wire from my grandpa that is
>> about 100 years old. Not sure if such small items count.
>>
>> --
>> Regards, Joerg
>>
>> http://www.analogconsultants.com/
> My Shimano 105 road pedals I would say are 9.5 years old.
> Deacon Mark
>

That's brand new in my book :-)

Much of the stuff in my use is older than I am, and I am now well into
my 60's:

https://www.analogconsultants.com/ng/sed/olddrill.JPG

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 10:42:54 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
> On 4/26/23 10:33 AM, Mark Cleary wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 12:27:46 PM UTC-5, Joerg wrote:
> >> On 4/25/23 8:40 PM, NFN Smith wrote:
> >>> After wasting most of April, I'm trying to get consistent mileage.
> >>>
> >>> Something that I thought of was the age of some of my stuff. I realized
> >>> that the oldest stuff that I use:
> >>>
> >>> - Hardware: I have a set of 1st generation Look pedals that still serve
> >>> me nicely.
> >>>
> >>> - Clothing: I have a set of acrylic arm warmers that I use regularly
> >>> when it's cold.
> >>>
> >>> I got the pedals used in 1990, and I think I got the arm warmers about a
> >>> year or two before that.
> >>>
> >>> What's your oldest stuff that you use regularly?
> >>>
> >> My road bike which was custom-assembled in 1982. It is the only road
> >> bike I have and it sees 3000-4000 miles per year. Good old non-indexed
> >> down-tube shifters and all. I've had riders ask me "Why are you reaching
> >> down but don't grab the bottle?"
> >>
> >> Some of the stuff I added onto it is older, like a large reflector from
> >> the late 70's and a transistor to regulate a lighting voltage which is
> >> early 70's. Then some cloth-insulated (!) wire from my grandpa that is
> >> about 100 years old. Not sure if such small items count.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards, Joerg
> >>
> >> http://www.analogconsultants.com/
> > My Shimano 105 road pedals I would say are 9.5 years old.
> > Deacon Mark
> >
> That's brand new in my book :-)
>
> Much of the stuff in my use is older than I am, and I am now well into
> my 60's:
>
> https://www.analogconsultants.com/ng/sed/olddrill.JPG
> --
> Regards, Joerg
>
> http://www.analogconsultants.com/
I have a toolbox containing some tools that stretch back to the 1970's if not older.

On Wed, 26 Apr 2023 10:55:42 -0700 (PDT),
Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have a toolbox containing some tools that stretch back to
> the 1970's if not older.

If we're going to talk tools, I can claim some that are nearing
the century mark, having previously belonged to my paternal
grandfather. The claw hammer has his (and my :) initials carved
in the (wooden) handle.

--
Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> West Lafayette, IN, USA

On Wed, 26 Apr 2023 10:27:41 -0700,
Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> wrote:
> On 4/25/23 8:40 PM, NFN Smith wrote:

> > What's your oldest stuff that you use regularly?
>
> My road bike which was custom-assembled in 1982. It is the only
> road bike I have and it sees 3000-4000 miles per year. Good old
> non-indexed down-tube shifters and all. I've had riders ask me
> "Why are you reaching down but don't grab the bottle?"

Okay, that made me laugh.

--
Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> West Lafayette, IN, USA

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 12:54:31 PM UTC-7, Ted Heise wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Apr 2023 10:55:42 -0700 (PDT),
> Tom Kunich <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I have a toolbox containing some tools that stretch back to
> > the 1970's if not older.
> If we're going to talk tools, I can claim some that are nearing
> the century mark, having previously belonged to my paternal
> grandfather. The claw hammer has his (and my :) initials carved
> in the (wooden) handle.
> --
> Ted Heise <the...@panix.com> West Lafayette, IN, USA

I have my father's toolbox but I was talking about my bicycle tools, like that Freewheel removal tool for 5 speed freewheels that I used back in the 70's on my Peugeot PX10's.

Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> writes:

> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 10:42:54 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
>> On 4/26/23 10:33 AM, Mark Cleary wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 12:27:46 PM UTC-5, Joerg wrote:
>> >> On 4/25/23 8:40 PM, NFN Smith wrote:
>> >>> After wasting most of April, I'm trying to get consistent mileage.
>> >>>
>> >>> Something that I thought of was the age of some of my stuff. I realized
>> >>> that the oldest stuff that I use:
>> >>>
>> >>> - Hardware: I have a set of 1st generation Look pedals that still serve
>> >>> me nicely.
>> >>>
>> >>> - Clothing: I have a set of acrylic arm warmers that I use regularly
>> >>> when it's cold.
>> >>>
>> >>> I got the pedals used in 1990, and I think I got the arm warmers about a
>> >>> year or two before that.
>> >>>
>> >>> What's your oldest stuff that you use regularly?
>> >>>
>> >> My road bike which was custom-assembled in 1982. It is the only road
>> >> bike I have and it sees 3000-4000 miles per year. Good old non-indexed
>> >> down-tube shifters and all. I've had riders ask me "Why are you reaching
>> >> down but don't grab the bottle?"
>> >>
>> >> Some of the stuff I added onto it is older, like a large reflector from
>> >> the late 70's and a transistor to regulate a lighting voltage which is
>> >> early 70's. Then some cloth-insulated (!) wire from my grandpa that is
>> >> about 100 years old. Not sure if such small items count.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Regards, Joerg
>> >>
>> >> http://www.analogconsultants.com/
>> > My Shimano 105 road pedals I would say are 9.5 years old.
>> > Deacon Mark
>> >
>> That's brand new in my book :-)
>>
>> Much of the stuff in my use is older than I am, and I am now well into
>> my 60's:
>>
>> https://www.analogconsultants.com/ng/sed/olddrill.JPG
>> --
>> Regards, Joerg
>>
>> http://www.analogconsultants.com/
> I have a toolbox containing some tools that stretch back to the
> 1970's if not older.

I have some user tools (molding planes) that might well have been made
in the 1870s. Maybe earlier, I don't know. I'm certainly using tools
that I bought new in the 1970s.

On 4/26/23 1:30 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
> Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 10:42:54 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
>>> On 4/26/23 10:33 AM, Mark Cleary wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 12:27:46 PM UTC-5, Joerg wrote:
>>>>> On 4/25/23 8:40 PM, NFN Smith wrote:
>>>>>> After wasting most of April, I'm trying to get consistent mileage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Something that I thought of was the age of some of my stuff. I realized
>>>>>> that the oldest stuff that I use:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Hardware: I have a set of 1st generation Look pedals that still serve
>>>>>> me nicely.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Clothing: I have a set of acrylic arm warmers that I use regularly
>>>>>> when it's cold.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I got the pedals used in 1990, and I think I got the arm warmers about a
>>>>>> year or two before that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's your oldest stuff that you use regularly?
>>>>>>
>>>>> My road bike which was custom-assembled in 1982. It is the only road
>>>>> bike I have and it sees 3000-4000 miles per year. Good old non-indexed
>>>>> down-tube shifters and all. I've had riders ask me "Why are you reaching
>>>>> down but don't grab the bottle?"
>>>>>
>>>>> Some of the stuff I added onto it is older, like a large reflector from
>>>>> the late 70's and a transistor to regulate a lighting voltage which is
>>>>> early 70's. Then some cloth-insulated (!) wire from my grandpa that is
>>>>> about 100 years old. Not sure if such small items count.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Regards, Joerg
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.analogconsultants.com/
>>>> My Shimano 105 road pedals I would say are 9.5 years old.
>>>> Deacon Mark
>>>>
>>> That's brand new in my book :-)
>>>
>>> Much of the stuff in my use is older than I am, and I am now well into
>>> my 60's:
>>>
>>> https://www.analogconsultants.com/ng/sed/olddrill.JPG
>>> --
>>> Regards, Joerg
>>>
>>> http://www.analogconsultants.com/
>> I have a toolbox containing some tools that stretch back to the
>> 1970's if not older.
>
> I have some user tools (molding planes) that might well have been made
> in the 1870s. Maybe earlier, I don't know. I'm certainly using tools
> that I bought new in the 1970s.
>

In my case soldering irons from the days when Edison electric light
wasn't around yet. You have to place them into a bed of coals or into a
fire, wait, then solder. After 2-3 fittings, rinse and repeat. Which is
why there are several irons.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> wrote:
> On 4/26/23 1:30 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
>> Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 10:42:54 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
>>>> On 4/26/23 10:33 AM, Mark Cleary wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 12:27:46 PM UTC-5, Joerg wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/25/23 8:40 PM, NFN Smith wrote:
>>>>>>> After wasting most of April, I'm trying to get consistent mileage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Something that I thought of was the age of some of my stuff. I realized
>>>>>>> that the oldest stuff that I use:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Hardware: I have a set of 1st generation Look pedals that still serve
>>>>>>> me nicely.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Clothing: I have a set of acrylic arm warmers that I use regularly
>>>>>>> when it's cold.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I got the pedals used in 1990, and I think I got the arm warmers about a
>>>>>>> year or two before that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What's your oldest stuff that you use regularly?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> My road bike which was custom-assembled in 1982. It is the only road
>>>>>> bike I have and it sees 3000-4000 miles per year. Good old non-indexed
>>>>>> down-tube shifters and all. I've had riders ask me "Why are you reaching
>>>>>> down but don't grab the bottle?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some of the stuff I added onto it is older, like a large reflector from
>>>>>> the late 70's and a transistor to regulate a lighting voltage which is
>>>>>> early 70's. Then some cloth-insulated (!) wire from my grandpa that is
>>>>>> about 100 years old. Not sure if such small items count.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Regards, Joerg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.analogconsultants.com/
>>>>> My Shimano 105 road pedals I would say are 9.5 years old.
>>>>> Deacon Mark
>>>>>
>>>> That's brand new in my book :-)
>>>>
>>>> Much of the stuff in my use is older than I am, and I am now well into
>>>> my 60's:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.analogconsultants.com/ng/sed/olddrill.JPG
>>>> --
>>>> Regards, Joerg
>>>>
>>>> http://www.analogconsultants.com/
>>> I have a toolbox containing some tools that stretch back to the
>>> 1970's if not older.
>>
>> I have some user tools (molding planes) that might well have been made
>> in the 1870s. Maybe earlier, I don't know. I'm certainly using tools
>> that I bought new in the 1970s.
>>
>
> In my case soldering irons from the days when Edison electric light
> wasn't around yet. You have to place them into a bed of coals or into a
> fire, wait, then solder. After 2-3 fittings, rinse and repeat. Which is
> why there are several irons.
>
Probably the oldest item I have that I use occasionally is a large old
screwdriver wooden handle, looks 1930’s ish in style.

Sadly my dad had his tool box stolen few decades back so anything very old
that was useable would of gone.

Got to admit have bought one of the old style tool boxes metal for bike
stuff and it’s some much nicer than various plastic ones.

But since I was adult in the 90’s tools I’ve bought are that sort of age,
oldest being a socket set which was bought for car usage, and now
occasionally DIY most bike stuff decent Allen keys will do just fine.

Roger Merriman

On 4/26/2023 4:46 PM, Joerg wrote:
> On 4/26/23 1:30 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
>> Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 10:42:54 AM UTC-7,
>>> Joerg wrote:
>>>> On 4/26/23 10:33 AM, Mark Cleary wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 12:27:46 PM UTC-5,
>>>>> Joerg wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/25/23 8:40 PM, NFN Smith wrote:
>>>>>>> After wasting most of April, I'm trying to get
>>>>>>> consistent mileage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Something that I thought of was the age of some of my
>>>>>>> stuff. I realized
>>>>>>> that the oldest stuff that I use:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Hardware: I have a set of 1st generation Look
>>>>>>> pedals that still serve
>>>>>>> me nicely.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Clothing: I have a set of acrylic arm warmers that
>>>>>>> I use regularly
>>>>>>> when it's cold.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I got the pedals used in 1990, and I think I got the
>>>>>>> arm warmers about a
>>>>>>> year or two before that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What's your oldest stuff that you use regularly?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> My road bike which was custom-assembled in 1982. It is
>>>>>> the only road
>>>>>> bike I have and it sees 3000-4000 miles per year. Good
>>>>>> old non-indexed
>>>>>> down-tube shifters and all. I've had riders ask me
>>>>>> "Why are you reaching
>>>>>> down but don't grab the bottle?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some of the stuff I added onto it is older, like a
>>>>>> large reflector from
>>>>>> the late 70's and a transistor to regulate a lighting
>>>>>> voltage which is
>>>>>> early 70's. Then some cloth-insulated (!) wire from my
>>>>>> grandpa that is
>>>>>> about 100 years old. Not sure if such small items count.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Regards, Joerg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.analogconsultants.com/
>>>>> My Shimano 105 road pedals I would say are 9.5 years old.
>>>>> Deacon Mark
>>>>>
>>>> That's brand new in my book :-)
>>>>
>>>> Much of the stuff in my use is older than I am, and I am
>>>> now well into
>>>> my 60's:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.analogconsultants.com/ng/sed/olddrill.JPG
>>>> --
>>>> Regards, Joerg
>>>>
>>>> http://www.analogconsultants.com/
>>> I have a toolbox containing some tools that stretch
>>> back to the
>>> 1970's if not older.
>>
>> I have some user tools (molding planes) that might well
>> have been made
>> in the 1870s. Maybe earlier, I don't know. I'm certainly
>> using tools
>> that I bought new in the 1970s.
>>
>
> In my case soldering irons from the days when Edison
> electric light wasn't around yet. You have to place them
> into a bed of coals or into a fire, wait, then solder. After
> 2-3 fittings, rinse and repeat. Which is why there are
> several irons.
>

I was told to do that around anything electronic by an EE
customer and to not use an electric-heat solder unit.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Wed, 26 Apr 2023 19:54:39 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 4/26/2023 4:46 PM, Joerg wrote:
>> On 4/26/23 1:30 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
>>> Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 10:42:54 AM UTC-7,
>>>> Joerg wrote:
>>>>> On 4/26/23 10:33 AM, Mark Cleary wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 12:27:46 PM UTC-5,
>>>>>> Joerg wrote:
>>>>>>> On 4/25/23 8:40 PM, NFN Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>> After wasting most of April, I'm trying to get
>>>>>>>> consistent mileage.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Something that I thought of was the age of some of my
>>>>>>>> stuff. I realized
>>>>>>>> that the oldest stuff that I use:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Hardware: I have a set of 1st generation Look
>>>>>>>> pedals that still serve
>>>>>>>> me nicely.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Clothing: I have a set of acrylic arm warmers that
>>>>>>>> I use regularly
>>>>>>>> when it's cold.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I got the pedals used in 1990, and I think I got the
>>>>>>>> arm warmers about a
>>>>>>>> year or two before that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What's your oldest stuff that you use regularly?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My road bike which was custom-assembled in 1982. It is
>>>>>>> the only road
>>>>>>> bike I have and it sees 3000-4000 miles per year. Good
>>>>>>> old non-indexed
>>>>>>> down-tube shifters and all. I've had riders ask me
>>>>>>> "Why are you reaching
>>>>>>> down but don't grab the bottle?"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some of the stuff I added onto it is older, like a
>>>>>>> large reflector from
>>>>>>> the late 70's and a transistor to regulate a lighting
>>>>>>> voltage which is
>>>>>>> early 70's. Then some cloth-insulated (!) wire from my
>>>>>>> grandpa that is
>>>>>>> about 100 years old. Not sure if such small items count.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Regards, Joerg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.analogconsultants.com/
>>>>>> My Shimano 105 road pedals I would say are 9.5 years old.
>>>>>> Deacon Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>> That's brand new in my book :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Much of the stuff in my use is older than I am, and I am
>>>>> now well into
>>>>> my 60's:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.analogconsultants.com/ng/sed/olddrill.JPG
>>>>> --
>>>>> Regards, Joerg
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.analogconsultants.com/
>>>> I have a toolbox containing some tools that stretch
>>>> back to the
>>>> 1970's if not older.
>>>
>>> I have some user tools (molding planes) that might well
>>> have been made
>>> in the 1870s. Maybe earlier, I don't know. I'm certainly
>>> using tools
>>> that I bought new in the 1970s.
>>>
>>
>> In my case soldering irons from the days when Edison
>> electric light wasn't around yet. You have to place them
>> into a bed of coals or into a fire, wait, then solder. After
>> 2-3 fittings, rinse and repeat. Which is why there are
>> several irons.
>>
>
>I was told to do that around anything electronic by an EE
>customer and to not use an electric-heat solder unit.

I remember being cautioned about using an electric soldering iron
around some electronic parts and even bought a rather large electric
iron for that purpose. Plug it in until it gets hot and then unplug
and solder quickly. Awkward but usable (:-)
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 5:54:46 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> On 4/26/2023 4:46 PM, Joerg wrote:
> > On 4/26/23 1:30 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
> >> Tom Kunich <cycl...@gmail.com> writes:
> >>
> >>> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 10:42:54 AM UTC-7,
> >>> Joerg wrote:
> >>>> On 4/26/23 10:33 AM, Mark Cleary wrote:
> >>>>> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 12:27:46 PM UTC-5,
> >>>>> Joerg wrote:
> >>>>>> On 4/25/23 8:40 PM, NFN Smith wrote:
> >>>>>>> After wasting most of April, I'm trying to get
> >>>>>>> consistent mileage.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Something that I thought of was the age of some of my
> >>>>>>> stuff. I realized
> >>>>>>> that the oldest stuff that I use:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> - Hardware: I have a set of 1st generation Look
> >>>>>>> pedals that still serve
> >>>>>>> me nicely.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> - Clothing: I have a set of acrylic arm warmers that
> >>>>>>> I use regularly
> >>>>>>> when it's cold.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I got the pedals used in 1990, and I think I got the
> >>>>>>> arm warmers about a
> >>>>>>> year or two before that.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What's your oldest stuff that you use regularly?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> My road bike which was custom-assembled in 1982. It is
> >>>>>> the only road
> >>>>>> bike I have and it sees 3000-4000 miles per year. Good
> >>>>>> old non-indexed
> >>>>>> down-tube shifters and all. I've had riders ask me
> >>>>>> "Why are you reaching
> >>>>>> down but don't grab the bottle?"
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Some of the stuff I added onto it is older, like a
> >>>>>> large reflector from
> >>>>>> the late 70's and a transistor to regulate a lighting
> >>>>>> voltage which is
> >>>>>> early 70's. Then some cloth-insulated (!) wire from my
> >>>>>> grandpa that is
> >>>>>> about 100 years old. Not sure if such small items count.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Regards, Joerg
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.analogconsultants.com/
> >>>>> My Shimano 105 road pedals I would say are 9.5 years old.
> >>>>> Deacon Mark
> >>>>>
> >>>> That's brand new in my book :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> Much of the stuff in my use is older than I am, and I am
> >>>> now well into
> >>>> my 60's:
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.analogconsultants.com/ng/sed/olddrill.JPG
> >>>> --
> >>>> Regards, Joerg
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.analogconsultants.com/
> >>> I have a toolbox containing some tools that stretch
> >>> back to the
> >>> 1970's if not older.
> >>
> >> I have some user tools (molding planes) that might well
> >> have been made
> >> in the 1870s. Maybe earlier, I don't know. I'm certainly
> >> using tools
> >> that I bought new in the 1970s.
> >>
> >
> > In my case soldering irons from the days when Edison
> > electric light wasn't around yet. You have to place them
> > into a bed of coals or into a fire, wait, then solder. After
> > 2-3 fittings, rinse and repeat. Which is why there are
> > several irons.
> >
> I was told to do that around anything electronic by an EE
> customer and to not use an electric-heat solder unit.
> --
> Andrew Muzi
> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Whoever told you that must have been a Liebermann type of engineer. The electric heating element in a soldering iron is almost entirely shielded by the metal case. And I don't know what sort of electronic equipment would be harmed by 60 hz radiation anyway.

On Wed, 26 Apr 2023 19:54:39 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 4/26/2023 4:46 PM, Joerg wrote:
>> In my case soldering irons from the days when Edison
>> electric light wasn't around yet. You have to place them
>> into a bed of coals or into a fire, wait, then solder. After
>> 2-3 fittings, rinse and repeat. Which is why there are
>> several irons.

>I was told to do that around anything electronic by an EE
>customer and to not use an electric-heat solder unit.

For modern soldering irons, MIL-STD-2000 specifies that the soldering
iron tip to ground leakage voltage shall be less than 2 millivolts.
It's quite safe. However, that assumes that the soldering iron is
properly grounded through the ground (green) wire of the electrical
outlet. If whatever you're working on is grounded to something else,
and there's an electrical potential between the two grounds, it will
appear on the soldering iron tip. I had this problem with a perfectly
good soldering iron, where the power strip on my workbench had become
ungrounded and leakage through defective filter capacitors on some of
my vintage HP test equipment produced a 20VAC differential between the
two grounds. I found the problem before I blew up anything. Just
measure the voltage between AC ground and the soldering iron tip with
a DVM (digital volt meter). If you see *ANY* voltage, AC or DC,
something is wrong. Note that measuring 1mv is difficult and usually
requires a Kelvin bridge.

Soldering irons and soldering stations with only 2 wires on the AC
power cord are legal, but not good enough. 3 wire power cords are
better. The problem is not leakage but rather static electricity.
Without a path to ground for the tip to discharge any static
electricity from your cloths or shoes, the soldering iron tip will do
the discharging for you through whatever electronics you're trying to
solder. Make sure your soldering iron tip is grounded.

"Can a soldering station guarantee tip grounding?"
<http://kb.hakkousa.com/Knowledgebase/10621/Can-a-soldering-station-guarantee-tip-grounding>

You don't need one of these, but you might find it interesting.
"Soldering Tip Voltage Tester"
<https://www.farnell.com/datasheets/86958.pdf>

More than you probably wanted to know:
"EOS analysis of soldering iron tip voltage"
<https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0304388699000431>

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Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558