On Sunday, April 24, 2022 at 11:37:08 AM UTC-4, Dimiter Popoff wrote:
> On 4/24/2022 17:01, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
> > On 2022-04-24 01:39, Ricky wrote:
> >> On Saturday, April 23, 2022 at 5:47:36 PM UTC-4, Jeroen Belleman
> >> wrote:
> >>> On 2022-04-23 23:34, Ricky wrote:
> >>>> On Saturday, April 23, 2022 at 11:39:09 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> On a sunny day (Sat, 23 Apr 2022 15:01:10 GMT) it happened Jan
> >>>>> Panteltje <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> >>>>> <t414hf$qah$1...@dont-email.me>:
> >>>>>> On a sunny day (Sat, 23 Apr 2022 07:21:10 -0700) it happened
> >>>>>> jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
> >>>>>> <1p286h126b5jr3km7...@4ax.com>:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://www.ti.com/prod-list/new-products?releasePeriod=364
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> > And that's just TI. Boggling.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Not sure how serious I take that I downloaded the 'datasheet'
> >>>>>> for the 'AFE8092 Octal-Channel RF Transceiver with Feedback
> >>>>>> Paths'
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Not even a block diagram, and big pictures of ballgrid array
> >>>>>> but no pin function list. so 4 Giggle samples per second
> >>>>>> ADCs... (after figuring out what GSPS stood for).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Not usable with that data.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> But more and more integration indeed.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Too many pins... Maybe just for thermal...
> >>>>> My opinion dataheet written by complete electronics moron He
> >>>>> explains ADC (but everybody doing electronics knows that) but
> >>>>> GSPS in capitals is the wrong notation for Gsamples/second.
> >>>>
> >>>> What is the correct notation for giga samples/second?
> >>>>
> >>> I'd go with Gsamples/s. In a sufficiently unambiguous context,
> >>> maybe GS/s will do. (They wouldn't be talking about the rate of
> >>> change of conductance in a treatise on ADCs, now, would they?)
> >>>
> >>> 'Samples' is the only unit without a universally accepted
> >>> abbreviation.
> >>
> >> I'm not following the thinking. Everyone I've met is comfortable
> >> with the MSPS or even just SPS notation. Why is GSPS the odd duck?
> >> Why is S not an accepted abbreviation for "samples"? Because it's
> >> not an SI unit? Neither is HP, but in very common usage.
> >>
> >
> > Oh, I understand it, but _I_ would write Gsamples/s, Msamples/s,
> > ksamples/s, etc. I'm OK with 'S' for 'samples' if the context
> > makes it unambiguous, I already said. I'm _not_ OK with 'S' for
> > 'seconds'. It should be lower case 's'.
> Come on, MSPS is OK (of course I know you understand it).
> BTW someone pointed me to the fact that I was wrongly using S for
> seconds (had been doing so for ages) just 2-3 years ago, I
> changed since - never too late to mend :-).
> But I keep MSPS, somewhat resisting the temptation to write
> MSPs, it is sort of an old idiom to me.
> >
> > HP should be stamped out altogether. Use kW.
> Hah! I thought he meant Hewlet-Packard...(I really did).
> I do think in Watts when it comes to power obviously, like
> pretty much all of us, but when it comes to car/engine power
> I think horse powers... (but in Bulgarian, so HP did not
> speak to me).
> >
> > I'm a bit of a purist when it comes to units.
> I am lax about it as long as things are clear enough, ambiguity
> can be a killer. May be being a purist is better than my
> attitude but, like John says, "we are what we are" :-).
> And of course I hate inches, I always have to convert to mm
> to grasp it. And for pounds, pints, gallons etc. I still have to
> use the web...

I agree that HP can be abandoned without too much pain. I'd like to see kWh go away, but would be replaced with Joules, a rather much smaller unit. I believe there are 3,600 J to a Wh, so 3.6e6 J to a kWh. Grid level values are often MWh which is 3.6e9 J. So J is not a convenient unit for electrical stuff. The battery in my car is nominally 360 MJ... I think. Did I do the conversion right? One of the nice features of kWh in my car, is the battery is 100 kWh, making the conversion to/from % rather easy.

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On Saturday, April 23, 2022 at 8:04:22 AM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Sat, 23 Apr 2022 07:21:10 -0700) it happened
> jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
> <1p286h126b5jr3km7...@4ax.com>:
> >
> >
> >https://www.ti.com/prod-list/new-products?releasePeriod=364
> >
> >
> >And that's just TI. Boggling.
> Not sure how serious I take that
> I downloaded the 'datasheet' for the 'AFE8092 Octal-Channel RF Transceiver with Feedback Paths'
>
> Not even a block diagram, and big pictures of ballgrid array but no pin function list.
> so 4 Giggle samples per second ADCs... (after figuring out what GSPS stood for).
>
> Not usable with that data.
>
> But more and more integration indeed.
>
> Too many pins...
> Maybe just for thermal...

You have to click on Technical Documentation (or scroll down to it), which produces a list of items including a datasheet, app notes, and tech notes. Some people just aren't cut out to be engineers...

On Saturday, April 23, 2022 at 7:21:19 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> https://www.ti.com/prod-list/new-products?releasePeriod=364
>
>
> And that's just TI. Boggling.
>
>
>
> --
>
> I yam what I yam - Popeye

Example: the AFE7903 does direct conversion at GHz speeds, mind boggling:

'With operation up to 7.4 GHz, this device
enables direct RF sampling in the HF, VHF, UHF,
L, S and C-band frequency ranges without the need
for additional frequency conversions stages."

Ricky <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree that HP can be abandoned without too much pain. I'd like to see
> kWh go away, but would be replaced with Joules, a rather much smaller
> unit. I believe there are 3,600 J to a Wh, so 3.6e6 J to a kWh. Grid
> level values are often MWh which is 3.6e9 J. So J is not a convenient
> unit for electrical stuff. The battery in my car is nominally 360 MJ...
> I think. Did I do the conversion right? One of the nice features of
> kWh in my car, is the battery is 100 kWh, making the conversion to/from
> % rather easy.

Is your car in Puerto Rico with you?

On Sunday, April 24, 2022 at 9:12:54 PM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:
> Ricky <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I agree that HP can be abandoned without too much pain. I'd like to see
> > kWh go away, but would be replaced with Joules, a rather much smaller
> > unit. I believe there are 3,600 J to a Wh, so 3.6e6 J to a kWh. Grid
> > level values are often MWh which is 3.6e9 J. So J is not a convenient
> > unit for electrical stuff. The battery in my car is nominally 360 MJ...
> > I think. Did I do the conversion right? One of the nice features of
> > kWh in my car, is the battery is 100 kWh, making the conversion to/from
> > % rather easy.
> Is your car in Puerto Rico with you?

Which car? I have the Tesla in the states (mostly at the airport) and a Kia in Puerto Rico. A BEV is not practical in Puerto Rico unless you charge at home and I'm living in Airbnb until I decide where to buy. I'm hoping I have some better choices by the time I'm ready to buy a BEV in Puerto Rico.. Whatever it is, it has to be small. A big car in Puerto Rico is a PITA! They have narrow lanes and some roads are really narrow.

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On Sunday, April 24, 2022 at 2:52:11 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:

> Example: the AFE7903 does direct conversion at GHz speeds, mind boggling:
>
> 'With operation up to 7.4 GHz, this device
> enables direct RF sampling in the HF, VHF, UHF,
> L, S and C-band frequency ranges without the need
> for additional frequency conversions stages."

On Sunday, April 24, 2022 at 2:52:11 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:

> Example: the AFE7903 does direct conversion at GHz speeds, mind boggling:
>
> 'With operation up to 7.4 GHz, this device
> enables direct RF sampling in the HF, VHF, UHF,
> L, S and C-band frequency ranges without the need
> for additional frequency conversions stages."

Boggling, but worthless, unless you have GHz bandwidth requirements
in addition to GHz carrier requirements. Aperture time being small
also gives you GHz noise capability... not sure it's worth examining all
the bits in that firehose of a bit stream.

So, how much data does a channel-plate multiplier and streak camera output,
per second? More, or less?

On Sunday, April 24, 2022 at 9:02:38 PM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
> On Sunday, April 24, 2022 at 2:52:11 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
>
> > Example: the AFE7903 does direct conversion at GHz speeds, mind boggling:
> >
> > 'With operation up to 7.4 GHz, this device
> > enables direct RF sampling in the HF, VHF, UHF,
> > L, S and C-band frequency ranges without the need
> > for additional frequency conversions stages."
> Boggling, but worthless, unless you have GHz bandwidth requirements
> in addition to GHz carrier requirements. Aperture time being small
> also gives you GHz noise capability... not sure it's worth examining all
> the bits in that firehose of a bit stream.
>
> So, how much data does a channel-plate multiplier and streak camera output,
> per second? More, or less?

That would be most of the RF industry.

Is there some clinical name for a person who insults others in
conversation. Maybe that is Australian etiquette and protocol.

Bozo Bill Sloman, the most frequent troll in this group, is an
attention-craving chronic liar who cannot be reasoned with...

"the user has posted under the same name in other places, so not
nym-shifting" (Bozo sucks at logic)

"the Mueller investigation was about Trump only because Trump made it so"
(Bozo lying)

"the concepts "male" and "female" are essentially social constructions"
(Bozo being weird)

On Sunday, 24 April 2022 at 16:37:08 UTC+1, Dimiter Popoff wrote:
> On 4/24/2022 17:01, Jeroen Belleman wrote:

> >>>> What is the correct notation for giga samples/second?
> >>>>
> >>> I'd go with Gsamples/s. In a sufficiently unambiguous context,
> >>> maybe GS/s will do. (They wouldn't be talking about the rate of
> >>> change of conductance in a treatise on ADCs, now, would they?)
> >>>
> >>> 'Samples' is the only unit without a universally accepted
> >>> abbreviation.
> >>
> >> I'm not following the thinking. Everyone I've met is comfortable
> >> with the MSPS or even just SPS notation. Why is GSPS the odd duck?
> >> Why is S not an accepted abbreviation for "samples"? Because it's
> >> not an SI unit? Neither is HP, but in very common usage.
> >>
> >
> > Oh, I understand it, but _I_ would write Gsamples/s, Msamples/s,
> > ksamples/s, etc. I'm OK with 'S' for 'samples' if the context
> > makes it unambiguous, I already said. I'm _not_ OK with 'S' for
> > 'seconds'. It should be lower case 's'.
> Come on, MSPS is OK (of course I know you understand it).
> BTW someone pointed me to the fact that I was wrongly using S for
> seconds (had been doing so for ages) just 2-3 years ago, I
> changed since - never too late to mend :-).
> But I keep MSPS, somewhat resisting the temptation to write
> MSPs, it is sort of an old idiom to me.

I prefer sa/s.

John

W dniu 2022-04-24 o 01:46, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com pisze:

> If TI introduces, say, one new part per day, can they support them?

yes, of course as usual through their forum..

--
Best Regards
Michal

On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 01:41:36 -0000 (UTC), Sergey Kubushyn
<ksi@koi8.net> wrote:

>jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>
>>
>> https://www.ti.com/prod-list/new-products?releasePeriod=364
>>
>>
>> And that's just TI. Boggling.
>
>And EVERYTING is out of stock. Vaporware for all practical purposes. How do
>you design something with some part that is "new" and unobtanium at the same
>time?
>
>I can make a thousand such "new parts" per month, all better than anything
>else and several times cheaper than existing best parts. The only problem is
>that those "new parts" don't really exist but who cares?
>
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I assume that they usually have a launch customer, which at least
shows that somebody likes the idea.

--

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but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

On Sunday, April 24, 2022 at 11:31:58 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 3:01:44 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
> > On Sunday, April 24, 2022 at 9:02:38 PM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
> > > On Sunday, April 24, 2022 at 2:52:11 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
> > >
> > > > Example: the AFE7903 does direct conversion at GHz speeds, mind boggling:
> > > >
> > > > 'With operation up to 7.4 GHz, this device
> > > > enables direct RF sampling in the HF, VHF, UHF,
> > > > L, S and C-band frequency ranges without the need
> > > > for additional frequency conversions stages."
> > > Boggling, but worthless, unless you have GHz bandwidth requirements
> > > in addition to GHz carrier requirements. Aperture time being small
> > > also gives you GHz noise capability... not sure it's worth examining all
> > > the bits in that firehose of a bit stream.
> > >
> > > So, how much data does a channel-plate multiplier and streak camera output,
> > > per second? More, or less?
> >
> > That would be most of the RF industry.
> Flyguy missed the point by a country mile. He doesn't miss many opportunities to remind us how dim and ill-informed he is, but this effort is more comical than most.
>
> A channel plate multiplier and a streak camera do have a lot of bandwidth, but once you captured a screen's worth of data you have to scan the screen, and digitise and store the result before you can collect another. Unlike Flygyuy, I do know what they were, but I'd have to do quite a bit of digging to find out how fast current versions (if they still exist) can collect data or transfer it into mass memory.
>
> Cambridge Instruments did use a channel plate multiplier in the EBMF 10.5 electron beam microfabricator, but it was used as a thin electron multiplier. It was bit faster than regular photomultiplier tubes but only because the electrons didn't have as far to go. The streak camera would have been the quick bit.
>
> --
> SNIPPERMAN, Sydney

Hey SNIPPERMAN, have you LOST YOUR MIND? You just responded to the WRONG GUY, you IDIOT!!!

whit3rd wrote:
> On Sunday, April 24, 2022 at 2:52:11 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
>
>> Example: the AFE7903 does direct conversion at GHz speeds, mind
>> boggling:
>>
>> 'With operation up to 7.4 GHz, this device enables direct RF
>> sampling in the HF, VHF, UHF, L, S and C-band frequency ranges
>> without the need for additional frequency conversions stages."
>
> Boggling, but worthless, unless you have GHz bandwidth requirements
> in addition to GHz carrier requirements. Aperture time being small
> also gives you GHz noise capability... not sure it's worth examining
> all the bits in that firehose of a bit stream.

Nah, from that POV it's no worse than a wideband amplifier. You just
need to filter afterwards to select the desired bandwidth. It's an
advantage of very fast sampling that the quantization noise gets spread
out over a very wide bandwidth so that most of it gets filtered out.

The main issues with RF sampling are: (1) DSP complexity and (2) phase
noise. For a fixed-tuned or narrowband application, a single-conversion
superhet saves a lot of FPGA resources, clocking hardware, and RTL code.

There are quite a lot of software-defined radio (SDR) libraries out
there to reduce the coding burden, but you still need some reasonably
hairy-chested hardware to run them on.

> So, how much data does a channel-plate multiplier and streak camera
> output, per second? More, or less?

A lens will do Fourier transforms with aggregate bandwidths of 1E20 Hz
for a few bucks, if you can collect the data. (Say 300k pixels times 300
THz temporal bandwidth.) There's this little problem of collecting it
all, of course.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 21:02:34 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Sunday, April 24, 2022 at 2:52:11 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
>
>> Example: the AFE7903 does direct conversion at GHz speeds, mind boggling:
>>
>> 'With operation up to 7.4 GHz, this device
>> enables direct RF sampling in the HF, VHF, UHF,
>> L, S and C-band frequency ranges without the need
>> for additional frequency conversions stages."
>
>Boggling, but worthless, unless you have GHz bandwidth requirements
>in addition to GHz carrier requirements. Aperture time being small
>also gives you GHz noise capability... not sure it's worth examining all
>the bits in that firehose of a bit stream.
>
>So, how much data does a channel-plate multiplier and streak camera output,
>per second? More, or less?

Next-gen wireless networks will have frequency hopping, radical
constellation coding, synthetic antenna aiming, all sorts of nasty
stuff. It makes sense to digitize the antenna signal and do all the
fancy stuff digitally.

The market will be enormous. Envision hundreds of millions of little
6G boxes on telephone poles all over the world.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

John Larkin wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 21:02:34 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, April 24, 2022 at 2:52:11 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
>>
>>> Example: the AFE7903 does direct conversion at GHz speeds, mind boggling:
>>>
>>> 'With operation up to 7.4 GHz, this device
>>> enables direct RF sampling in the HF, VHF, UHF,
>>> L, S and C-band frequency ranges without the need
>>> for additional frequency conversions stages."
>>
>> Boggling, but worthless, unless you have GHz bandwidth requirements
>> in addition to GHz carrier requirements. Aperture time being small
>> also gives you GHz noise capability... not sure it's worth examining all
>> the bits in that firehose of a bit stream.
>>
>> So, how much data does a channel-plate multiplier and streak camera output,
>> per second? More, or less?
>
> Next-gen wireless networks will have frequency hopping, radical
> constellation coding, synthetic antenna aiming, all sorts of nasty
> stuff. It makes sense to digitize the antenna signal and do all the
> fancy stuff digitally.
>
> The market will be enormous. Envision hundreds of millions of little
> 6G boxes on telephone poles all over the world.
>

Bringing streaming 16K videos of cute kittens to everybody's car.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 15:16:25 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

>John Larkin wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 21:02:34 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sunday, April 24, 2022 at 2:52:11 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
>>>
>>>> Example: the AFE7903 does direct conversion at GHz speeds, mind boggling:
>>>>
>>>> 'With operation up to 7.4 GHz, this device
>>>> enables direct RF sampling in the HF, VHF, UHF,
>>>> L, S and C-band frequency ranges without the need
>>>> for additional frequency conversions stages."
>>>
>>> Boggling, but worthless, unless you have GHz bandwidth requirements
>>> in addition to GHz carrier requirements. Aperture time being small
>>> also gives you GHz noise capability... not sure it's worth examining all
>>> the bits in that firehose of a bit stream.
>>>
>>> So, how much data does a channel-plate multiplier and streak camera output,
>>> per second? More, or less?
>>
>> Next-gen wireless networks will have frequency hopping, radical
>> constellation coding, synthetic antenna aiming, all sorts of nasty
>> stuff. It makes sense to digitize the antenna signal and do all the
>> fancy stuff digitally.
>>
>> The market will be enormous. Envision hundreds of millions of little
>> 6G boxes on telephone poles all over the world.
>>
>
>Bringing streaming 16K videos of cute kittens to everybody's car.
>
>Cheers
>
>Phil Hobbs

I want everything on one wireless network. Internet, phones, TV, wifi,
home automation, cars, utility meters, security, webcams, everything.

Privacy is over-rated.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

John Larkin wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 15:16:25 -0400, Phil Hobbs
> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
>
>> John Larkin wrote:
>>> On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 21:02:34 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sunday, April 24, 2022 at 2:52:11 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Example: the AFE7903 does direct conversion at GHz speeds, mind boggling:
>>>>>
>>>>> 'With operation up to 7.4 GHz, this device
>>>>> enables direct RF sampling in the HF, VHF, UHF,
>>>>> L, S and C-band frequency ranges without the need
>>>>> for additional frequency conversions stages."
>>>>
>>>> Boggling, but worthless, unless you have GHz bandwidth requirements
>>>> in addition to GHz carrier requirements. Aperture time being small
>>>> also gives you GHz noise capability... not sure it's worth examining all
>>>> the bits in that firehose of a bit stream.
>>>>
>>>> So, how much data does a channel-plate multiplier and streak camera output,
>>>> per second? More, or less?
>>>
>>> Next-gen wireless networks will have frequency hopping, radical
>>> constellation coding, synthetic antenna aiming, all sorts of nasty
>>> stuff. It makes sense to digitize the antenna signal and do all the
>>> fancy stuff digitally.
>>>
>>> The market will be enormous. Envision hundreds of millions of little
>>> 6G boxes on telephone poles all over the world.
>>>
>>
>> Bringing streaming 16K videos of cute kittens to everybody's car.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Phil Hobbs
>
> I want everything on one wireless network. Internet, phones, TV, wifi,
> home automation, cars, utility meters, security, webcams, everything.
>
> Privacy is over-rated.
>
Until your social credit score gets too low and they punt you from
everything at once.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 16:04:49 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

>John Larkin wrote:
>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 15:16:25 -0400, Phil Hobbs
>> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
>>
>>> John Larkin wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 21:02:34 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, April 24, 2022 at 2:52:11 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Example: the AFE7903 does direct conversion at GHz speeds, mind boggling:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'With operation up to 7.4 GHz, this device
>>>>>> enables direct RF sampling in the HF, VHF, UHF,
>>>>>> L, S and C-band frequency ranges without the need
>>>>>> for additional frequency conversions stages."
>>>>>
>>>>> Boggling, but worthless, unless you have GHz bandwidth requirements
>>>>> in addition to GHz carrier requirements. Aperture time being small
>>>>> also gives you GHz noise capability... not sure it's worth examining all
>>>>> the bits in that firehose of a bit stream.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, how much data does a channel-plate multiplier and streak camera output,
>>>>> per second? More, or less?
>>>>
>>>> Next-gen wireless networks will have frequency hopping, radical
>>>> constellation coding, synthetic antenna aiming, all sorts of nasty
>>>> stuff. It makes sense to digitize the antenna signal and do all the
>>>> fancy stuff digitally.
>>>>
>>>> The market will be enormous. Envision hundreds of millions of little
>>>> 6G boxes on telephone poles all over the world.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Bringing streaming 16K videos of cute kittens to everybody's car.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Phil Hobbs
>>
>> I want everything on one wireless network. Internet, phones, TV, wifi,
>> home automation, cars, utility meters, security, webcams, everything.
>>
>> Privacy is over-rated.
>>
>Until your social credit score gets too low and they punt you from
>everything at once.
>
>Cheers
>
>Phil Hobbs

But they can't punt everyone. In the USA at least, people would still
pay someone for the service and for bandwidth (I guess) so nobody
would be in charge and someone loses revenue if they lose a customer.

Capitalism will find a way.

I'm killing time until a design review, which should be fun. It's a
Z-series test board with all sorts of mixed experiments for various
people. New Trion FPGA, my dummy load with the CPU cooler, various
switching supplies, power resistors and inductors to test in our air
stream, new tricolor LED, all kinds of stuff.

I want to test the Trion for pin-pin delays, LVDS electrical details,
delay-vs-temp and delay-vs-Ccc_core, jitter, power consumption, things
like that.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

On Monday, 25 April 2022 at 08:16:23 UTC+1, John Doe wrote:
> Is there some clinical name for a person who insults others in
> conversation. Maybe that is Australian etiquette and protocol.

one of the PD clusters. (they really don't like people mentioning it)

On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 21:52:04 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:

> >> I want everything on one wireless network. Internet, phones, TV, wifi,
> >> home automation, cars, utility meters, security, webcams, everything.
> >>
> >> Privacy is over-rated.
> >>
> >Until your social credit score gets too low and they punt you from
> >everything at once.
> >
> >Cheers
> >
> >Phil Hobbs
> But they can't punt everyone. In the USA at least, people would still
> pay someone for the service and for bandwidth (I guess) so nobody
> would be in charge and someone loses revenue if they lose a customer.
>
> Capitalism will find a way.

Dictatorship outranks capitalism.

On a sunny day (Wed, 27 Apr 2022 16:04:49 -0400) it happened Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in
<14b0630b-0e0a-0e71-a3ed-a80692cbb705@electrooptical.net>:

>John Larkin wrote:
>> I want everything on one wireless network. Internet, phones, TV, wifi,
>> home automation, cars, utility meters, security, webcams, everything.
>>
>> Privacy is over-rated.
>>
>Until your social credit score gets too low and they punt you from
>everything at once.

They just send the KILL signal to your chip implant.
No need for external 'tronics like a TV screen,
just at birth a brain implant.

Few errors with todays software and coders :-)

On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 12:56:42 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

> I want everything on one wireless network. Internet, phones, TV, wifi,
> home automation, cars, utility meters, security, webcams, everything.
>
> Privacy is over-rated.

That's a laugh; Internet range is out to near Earth orbit, and you want your
utility meters to compete for that against your TV remote control? One network
isn't the answer, any more than one TV channel is the answer.

Maybe bluetooth/WiFi/Cat5 routing is a good thing, though. I want, if possible,
long-range signals in a wired or fiber network, but a tablet or cellphone is SO convenient.

On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 22:18:20 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabbypurr@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 21:52:04 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
>
>> >> I want everything on one wireless network. Internet, phones, TV, wifi,
>> >> home automation, cars, utility meters, security, webcams, everything.
>> >>
>> >> Privacy is over-rated.
>> >>
>> >Until your social credit score gets too low and they punt you from
>> >everything at once.
>> >
>> >Cheers
>> >
>> >Phil Hobbs
>> But they can't punt everyone. In the USA at least, people would still
>> pay someone for the service and for bandwidth (I guess) so nobody
>> would be in charge and someone loses revenue if they lose a customer.
>>
>> Capitalism will find a way.
>
>Dictatorship outranks capitalism.

Dictators, like Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Putin, think they understand
everything and then want to control everything. They kill hundreds of
millions.

"Capitalism" really means pluralism, letting lots of sane and crazy
people try things to see what actually works.

--

Anybody can count to one.

- Robert Widlar

On a sunny day (Thu, 28 Apr 2022 09:33:48 -0700) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
<o8gl6hpqq0s2truck4h0380vqa9kr1i8b1@4ax.com>:

>On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 22:18:20 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabbypurr@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 21:52:04 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
>>
>>> >> I want everything on one wireless network. Internet, phones, TV, wifi,
>>> >> home automation, cars, utility meters, security, webcams, everything.
>>> >>
>>> >> Privacy is over-rated.
>>> >>
>>> >Until your social credit score gets too low and they punt you from
>>> >everything at once.
>>> >
>>> >Cheers
>>> >
>>> >Phil Hobbs
>>> But they can't punt everyone. In the USA at least, people would still
>>> pay someone for the service and for bandwidth (I guess) so nobody
>>> would be in charge and someone loses revenue if they lose a customer.
>>>
>>> Capitalism will find a way.
>>
>>Dictatorship outranks capitalism.
>
>Dictators, like Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Putin, think they understand
>everything and then want to control everything. They kill hundreds of
>millions.

Yes you US have a milli-tairy Industrial Complex that killed millions recently
with covid they designed.
As you did in Vietnam with Agent Orange, the list is much longer.
As you did in the war Bill Clignon, an other deamon crate, started in Europe
ByeThen is not even original
I think Putin is merely defending his people.

>"Capitalism" really means pluralism, letting lots of sane and crazy
>people try things to see what actually works.

That is not capitalism, that is happening everywhere.

Your dictator is the Military Industrial Complex and the political pawns in its game
Selling death for profit.

Seen that movie, 'Planet of the Apes' where they find the remains of that Statute of Liberty?
How many years..
No Empire Yet has persisted.

Or is it for you also "whos bread one eats whos word one speaks?"
Not hero mister
pussy