On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 6:28:05 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 17:09:31 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
> <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 12:26:49 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
> >> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 21:36:37 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <d...@tgi-sci.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >On 4/29/2022 20:43, John Larkin wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 17:14:43 GMT, Jan Panteltje
> >> >> <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 10:02:25 -0700) it happened John Larkin
> >> >>> <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
> >> >>> <ve6o6hp5q5bet379q...@4ax.com>:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 16:49:42 GMT, Jan Panteltje
> >> >>>> <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 08:33:45 -0700) it happened
> >> >>>>> jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
> >> >>>>> <j31o6hhsnroa0mm1b...@4ax.com>:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 14:46:18 GMT, Jan Panteltje
> >> >>>>>> <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 07:26:11 -0700) it happened
> >> >>>>>>> jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
> >> >>>>>>> <iatn6hlijku89m4ao...@4ax.com>:
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Russia has one insane person in charge. Millions will die.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Well, that could be you.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Unikely. The deaths will be from disease and starvation in poor
> >> >>>>>> countries. They are already suffering from covid lockdown side
> >> >>>>>> effects.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01022-x
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> The war ByeThen provoked in Ukraine
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> How did he do that?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Did the US and Ukraine attack Russia?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> By breaking the 2014 peace deal by stuffing more weapons directly on the Russian border
> >> >>> supporting Ukraine in making Donbas its own, the usual CIA shit
> >> >>> with shitlensky their sad puppet.
> >> >>> US does that everywhere: sanctions, Cuba, Venezuela, steal their money
> >> >>> break deals (Iran), force injustice (International court in the Hague here
> >> >>> should now sue Russia for war crimes, but Bushman threatened to invade here when it
> >> >>> wanted to sue US soldiers for war crimes.
> >> >>> I was just reading this:
> >> >>> https://www.rt.com/russia/554720-china-us-goals-ukraine/
> >> >>> that site has the views you should also check, not only what ByeThen and his puppet press spews at you.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>
> >> >> Putin has pounded Ukrainian cities to rubble. And created millions of
> >> >> refugees. And damaged the food supply to millions in other countries.
> >> >>
> >> >> Any you blame the US?
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >What do you expect of someone following Russian media.
> >> >You won't believe the sort of utter nonsense they pour all the time
> >> >and yes, there are people who do believe it - not because it is not
> >> >laughable, it is of course, but because there are people wanting to
> >> >believe it out of hatred to the US, EU etc.
> >> Why do so many people hate the US?
> >>
> >> Maybe it's the chinese proverb: If you save someone's life, they will
> >> hate you forever.
> >>
> >> A lot of USians hate California. They fear that it's as wonderful as
> >> the rumors suggest. It is.
> >> --
> >>
> >> If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
> >> but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
> >> Francis Bacon
> >
> >Then why are people (and companies) leaving CA?
> >https://taxfoundation.org/state-population-change-2021/#:~:text=Whereas%20the%20District%20of%20Columbia's,gaining%203.4%20percent%2C%20while%20Utah
> CA -0.8%. NY -1.8. DC -2.8.
>
> Companies go where they can make more profit, or lose business to
> competitors in cheaper places. Texas, China, Mexico, Ireland.
>
> Some people find California too expensive, or follow the jobs. That's
> their choice. It is expensive, but people always select what they are
> willing to pay for. The cost of living is low in Alabama, so some
> people move there.
>
> My nephew is staying with us for a while. He just moved here from
> Madison and found a very nice affordable apartment in a few days, in
> San Mateo. I was kind of surprised. I think the work-from-home thing
> has taken some of the pressure off housing costs.
>
> Where do you live?
> --
>
> Anybody can count to one.
>
> - Robert Widlar

Eastern Washington State. Our daughter is moving back here from Seattle (after saying she never would) because she can build a brand new house for $600k that would cost $2M+ in Seattle. A golfing buddy recently sold two rental homes in that area, 1200 and 1500 sq ft, for $1.5M and $1.8M.

CA is becoming the land of the very poor and ultra-rich - the middle class are running for the hills. If you live in SF you need a poop app to navigate the sidewalks (if you can).

On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 7:03:00 PM UTC-7, rbowman wrote:
> On 04/30/2022 05:56 PM, whit3rd wrote:
> >> [Texas] became a breakaway
> >> province which the US scooped up under 'manifest destiny'.
> > ... and because of principles, like freedom of religion
> >
> How about principles like chattel slavery?
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Three_Hundred
>
> So you go to a colony in a foreign country where slavery is illegal ...

Mexico legalized slavery in that region... not an issue for Texas
at the time of revolt and annexation.

On 04/30/2022 08:30 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 20:12:50 -0600, rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 04/30/2022 07:12 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>> On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 12:58:29 -0600, rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 04/30/2022 08:26 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>>>> The US was traditionally isolationist, but was dragged reluctantly
>>>>> into two european wars and forced to defend a bunch of the planet
>>>>> against various genocidal regimes. Not over yet.
>>>>
>>>> "From the Halls of Montezuma
>>>> To the shores of Tripoli;
>>>> We fight our country's battles
>>>> In the air, on land, and sea;"
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marines'_Hymn#Lyrics
>>>
>>> That's their job. They are pretty good at it.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Tripoli line dates to 1805, Montezuma to 1847.
>>>>
>>>> Jefferson sent 3 frigates of the US Navy to the Mediterranean in 1801 to
>>>> protect US merchant ships. The decision was of doubtful
>>>> constitutionality and resulted in the First Barbary War.
>>>
>>> Some folks have a tradition of piracy. You can't just sue them.
>>>
>>> Check youtube for Somali Pirates.
>>
>> Does an isolationist country think its merchants have some god-given
>> right to conduct business in the Mediterranean?
>
>
> Who owns the ocean?
>
>
>
Britannia thought it did. Whatever the rationale it was the first
instance of the US Navy and Marines operating a long way from home. I've
never been able to ferret out why US merchant vessels were there in the
first place. Hopefully they weren't buying slaves at the North African
markets.

On 04/30/2022 08:37 PM, Ricky wrote:
> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 10:30:57 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>> On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 20:12:50 -0600, rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 04/30/2022 07:12 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 12:58:29 -0600, rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 04/30/2022 08:26 AM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>>>>> The US was traditionally isolationist, but was dragged reluctantly
>>>>>> into two european wars and forced to defend a bunch of the planet
>>>>>> against various genocidal regimes. Not over yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> "From the Halls of Montezuma
>>>>> To the shores of Tripoli;
>>>>> We fight our country's battles
>>>>> In the air, on land, and sea;"
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marines'_Hymn#Lyrics
>>>>
>>>> That's their job. They are pretty good at it.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The Tripoli line dates to 1805, Montezuma to 1847.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jefferson sent 3 frigates of the US Navy to the Mediterranean in 1801 to
>>>>> protect US merchant ships. The decision was of doubtful
>>>>> constitutionality and resulted in the First Barbary War.
>>>>
>>>> Some folks have a tradition of piracy. You can't just sue them.
>>>>
>>>> Check youtube for Somali Pirates.
>>>
>>> Does an isolationist country think its merchants have some god-given
>>> right to conduct business in the Mediterranean?
>> Who owns the ocean?
>
> Whoever has the biggest guns. Duh!
>
Or the smartest missiles. I think the days of Horatio Hornblower are over.

On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 22:01:21 +0200) it happened Piotr Wyderski
<bombald@protonmail.com> wrote in <t4k4it$21cqo$1@portraits.wsisiz.edu.pl>:

>Jeroen Belleman wrote:
>
>> Oh, I understand it, but _I_ would write Gsamples/s, Msamples/s,
>> ksamples/s, etc. I'm OK with 'S' for 'samples' if the context
>> makes it unambiguous
>
>When one deals with ADC/DAC, the "samples" is implied, so why bother
>writing that? It's s^-1 or Hz if you wish. Heck, we could even use Bq to
>make the number of sampling events per second look distinct from what
>otherwise would suggest a clock line. :->

It all depends, you asume 'experts' know it all
I do remember a US spacecraft crashing on Mars as for the insertion burn they used the wrong units

http://edition.cnn.com/TECH/space/9909/30/mars.metric.02/#:~:text=(CNN)%20%2D%2D%20NASA%20lost%20a,a%20review%20finding%20released%20Thursday.

its CNN, so its true ;-)
Anyways one would expect thsoe 'experts' to notice.
Does not cause anything to be clear...

Am 01.05.22 um 07:26 schrieb rbowman:
> On 04/30/2022 08:30 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>> On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 20:12:50 -0600, rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
>> wrote:

>>>> Some folks have a tradition of piracy. You can't just sue them.

It's a cultural characteristic. You've got to respect this,
and don't you dare to commit cultural appropriation!

>>>> Check youtube for Somali Pirates.
>>>
>>> Does an isolationist country think its merchants have some god-given
>>> right to conduct business in the Mediterranean?
>>
>>
>> Who owns the ocean?
>>
>>
>>
> Britannia thought it did.  Whatever the rationale it was the first
> instance of the US Navy and Marines operating a long way from home. I've
> never been able to ferret out why US merchant vessels were there in the
> first place. Hopefully they weren't buying slaves at the North African
> markets.

No, it was the other way around.

Slaves FOR the North African markets.

Piratery in the Mediterranian was a big thing,
including raids to the southern French and Italian shores.
Blondes preferred. They even sacked an entire village on
Iceland. That used to be a core competence of the Vikings.

The Corsairs were the offspring of the Arabs who had occupied
Spain for > 400 Years. They needed a new finance concept, badly.

Or that the American slave biz worked so smoothly because
the African tribes were used to sell their fellow African
tribes. So there wasn't much slave hunting involved, just
transport capacity.

But, of course, it is politically incorrect to mention that.

Gerhard

On Sun, 1 May 2022 13:13:10 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
wrote:

>Am 01.05.22 um 07:26 schrieb rbowman:
>> On 04/30/2022 08:30 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>> On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 20:12:50 -0600, rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
>>> wrote:
>
>>>>> Some folks have a tradition of piracy. You can't just sue them.
>
>It's a cultural characteristic. You've got to respect this,
>and don't you dare to commit cultural appropriation!
>
>>>>> Check youtube for Somali Pirates.
>>>>
>>>> Does an isolationist country think its merchants have some god-given
>>>> right to conduct business in the Mediterranean?
>>>
>>>
>>> Who owns the ocean?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Britannia thought it did.  Whatever the rationale it was the first
>> instance of the US Navy and Marines operating a long way from home. I've
>> never been able to ferret out why US merchant vessels were there in the
>> first place. Hopefully they weren't buying slaves at the North African
>> markets.
>
>No, it was the other way around.
>
>Slaves FOR the North African markets.
>
>Piratery in the Mediterranian was a big thing,
>including raids to the southern French and Italian shores.
>Blondes preferred. They even sacked an entire village on
>Iceland. That used to be a core competence of the Vikings.
>
>The Corsairs were the offspring of the Arabs who had occupied
>Spain for > 400 Years. They needed a new finance concept, badly.
>
>
>Or that the American slave biz worked so smoothly because
>the African tribes were used to sell their fellow African
>tribes. So there wasn't much slave hunting involved, just
>transport capacity.
>
>But, of course, it is politically incorrect to mention that.
>
>Gerhard

Slavery was universal throughout recorded history so certainly before
that. It's not remarkable that the US and England participated in
slavery. What's remarkable is that they ended it.

This is a great movie:

https://www.amazon.com/Belle-Blu-ray-Gugu-Mbatha-Raw/dp/B00KO10QH2/ref=sr_1_10_sspa?crid=EHKLGESRA3I1&keywords=dvd+belle&qid=1651415101&sprefix=dvd+belle%2Caps%2C130&sr=8-10-spons&psc=1&smid=ABLI0FL268ZL4&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyRjJPVkhRMENZOVU2JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNjQwODMyMVhKWEYySU5DQ045NyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMjE0NDI3MUZKVjhCNlJHOU1QTyZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX210ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

--

Anybody can count to one.

- Robert Widlar

On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 2:11:29 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 22:01:21 +0200) it happened Piotr Wyderski
> <bom...@protonmail.com> wrote in <t4k4it$21cqo$1...@portraits.wsisiz.edu.pl>:
> >Jeroen Belleman wrote:
> >
> >> Oh, I understand it, but _I_ would write Gsamples/s, Msamples/s,
> >> ksamples/s, etc. I'm OK with 'S' for 'samples' if the context
> >> makes it unambiguous
> >
> >When one deals with ADC/DAC, the "samples" is implied, so why bother
> >writing that? It's s^-1 or Hz if you wish. Heck, we could even use Bq to
> >make the number of sampling events per second look distinct from what
> >otherwise would suggest a clock line. :->
> It all depends, you asume 'experts' know it all
> I do remember a US spacecraft crashing on Mars as for the insertion burn they used the wrong units
>
> http://edition.cnn.com/TECH/space/9909/30/mars.metric.02/#:~:text=(CNN)%20%2D%2D%20NASA%20lost%20a,a%20review%20finding%20released%20Thursday.

It is true, sort of. The problem was a software interface specification was not followed by a subcontractor. Worse, the testing that should have been done to verify the interface was not done. This problem was nothing like the issue being discussed here. It was a systems design failure and the continued use by government contractors of antiquated measurement units.

You are discussing a simple choice of how to abbreviate a specification term. On any project, this would be standardized, even if the engineering community does not use a consistent term.

--

Rick C.

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On 05/01/2022 08:25 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> Slavery was universal throughout recorded history so certainly before
> that. It's not remarkable that the US and England participated in
> slavery. What's remarkable is that they ended it.

The Industrial Revolution made wage slaves a much more attractive
proposition. You didn't have to feed, clothe, or doctor them, and you
could fire them when you didn't need them anymore.

Even better, in current times the slaves provide their own
transportation. When Germany started the Gastarbeiterprogramm in '55
they didn't need to go round up Turks and others. Somehow the original
plan for the people to work for two years and go home with a pocket full
of DM's and new skill didn't work out.

On Sun, 1 May 2022 12:26:01 -0600, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

>On 05/01/2022 08:25 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>> Slavery was universal throughout recorded history so certainly before
>> that. It's not remarkable that the US and England participated in
>> slavery. What's remarkable is that they ended it.
>
>The Industrial Revolution made wage slaves a much more attractive
>proposition. You didn't have to feed, clothe, or doctor them, and you
>could fire them when you didn't need them anymore.

The "wage slaves" got heated homes, cars, refrigerators, electric
lights, good and reliable food, literacy, affordable clothing, the
right to vote for their government.

They could quit any time if someone made them a better offer. They
could elect to stay in the countryside and struggle to grow enough
food to get their families through the winter. They could watch their
kids die young if they didn't want to be exploited.

The industrial revolution made the average citizen far more productive
and far better off than any population had ever been.

--

Anybody can count to one.

- Robert Widlar

Ricky wrote:

> And electron consumption? Don't tell me, N. Joule is the unit of work, consumption is J per meter where a joule is N·m, so J/m is just N.

If dimensional analysis says it is newton, then... it is newton, whether
you like it or not.

Best regards, Piotr

On 2022-05-01 22:41, Piotr Wyderski wrote:
> Ricky wrote:
>
>> And electron consumption? Don't tell me, N. Joule is the unit of work, consumption is J per meter where a joule is N·m, so J/m is just N.
>
> If dimensional analysis says it is newton, then... it is newton, whether you like it or not.
>
>
> Best regards, Piotr

It makes sense, no? It's just how hard it needs to be pushed to
keep it going.

Jeroen Belleman

On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 10:26:20 PM UTC-7, rbowman wrote:
> On 04/30/2022 08:30 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
[about the Barbaby War]
> > Who owns the ocean?

> Britannia thought it did. Whatever the rationale it was the first
> instance of the US Navy and Marines operating a long way from home. I've
> never been able to ferret out why US merchant vessels were there in the
> first place. Hopefully they weren't buying slaves at the North African
> markets.

Cash crops (tobacco, mainly) were major US exports; there was no good reason
to let foreign ships do all of that. As for the slave trade, that was heaviest
on the Gold Coast; Yankee ships there were at less piracy risk than the ones which
sailed into the Mediterranean.

Jeroen Belleman wrote:

> It makes sense, no? It's just how hard it needs to be pushed to
> keep it going.

In the case of fuel consumption it is simply the cross-sectional area of
the imaginary stream of fuel that runs along the moving vehicle. The
bigger the consumption, the bigger the pipe. Very picturesque and
intuitive IMO.

Best regards, Piotr

On 1/5/22 12:33 pm, Ricky wrote:
> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 7:39:37 PM UTC-4, Clifford Heath wrote:
>> On 1/5/22 8:30 am, Ricky wrote:
>>> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 4:04:36 PM UTC-4, Piotr Wyderski wrote:
>>>> Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hah! I thought he meant Hewlet-Packard...(I really did).
>>>>> I do think in Watts when it comes to power obviously, like
>>>>> pretty much all of us, but when it comes to car/engine power
>>>>> I think horse powers...
>>>>
>>>> Gasoline consumption should properly be expressed in square meters.
>>>
>>> And electron consumption? Don't tell me, N. Joule is the unit of work, consumption is J per meter where a joule is N·m, so J/m is just N.
>>>
>>> Did I do that right?
>>>
>>> It always bugs me that they use kWh for BEVs as it is a bastard unit. Converting to J/m uses a multiplier of 2.24, so at 300 Wh/mi you get 671 J/m or N. Not a bad unit and it becomes 671 kJ/km (still N) which is still workable if a bit awkward to write. So rounding off, I shoot to get 700 kJ/km or about 1100 kJ/mi if you must use miles. But no matter how I calculate the consumption, I still pay for electricity by the kWh which is 3.6 MJ.
>>>
>>
>> E-bike advertisements are the worst! Batteries in AH, or V, anything but
>> WHr or kJ. Motors specified in Whr... sigh.
>
> I missed something. How can a motor be specified in Wh? Watts, yes, but watt-hours? That makes no sense.
>

Exactly my point. The people writing these advertisements are not
physicists and do not understand units.

On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 6:32:29 PM UTC-4, Piotr Wyderski wrote:
> Jeroen Belleman wrote:
>
> > It makes sense, no? It's just how hard it needs to be pushed to
> > keep it going.
> In the case of fuel consumption it is simply the cross-sectional area of
> the imaginary stream of fuel that runs along the moving vehicle. The
> bigger the consumption, the bigger the pipe. Very picturesque and
> intuitive IMO.

The point is, the units of Wh/mi or Wh/km can be turned directly into Newtons. Not sure how to turn any of that into a cross section of an electricity stream. I suppose it could be equated to the gauge of wire that would safely carry the current once a voltage is specified. Maybe assume a 240 volt, single phase AC source. But that's still not the same thing. The wire doesn't get consumed.

For an electric vehicle, maybe the number of AA alkaline cells per mile? For my car, it would be around 80 AA/mi.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AA_battery#Comparison

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=200452841739689

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Clifford Heath wrote:

> Exactly my point. The people writing these advertisements are not
> physicists and do not understand units.

Or they are actually smarter and we don't understand the message: a 1Whr
motor might consume 1 watt and die after an hour of operation. My recent
shredder that lasted 20 minutes appears to be powered by such a motor.

Best regards, Piotr

whit3rd wrote:

> But it DID work, and its reports through President Biden gave warning that Russian assault
> was imminent. That's a good thing.
> Did you have a credible source elsewhere that told of the recent invasion in advance?

It had been in the air here for quite a long time. The CIA warnings
resonated well with that, but I wouldn't give the CIA all the credit.
A distant friend serving in a military logistics unit had given me many
hints about "unusual events" long before the war started and I don't
claim to be exceptionally well-connected. "Everybody" knew.

Best regards, Piotr

On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 06:13:41 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 10:43:44 -0700) it happened John Larkin
><jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
><eq8o6htehhqt03esl729sjoot12p127sk9@4ax.com>:
>
>>Putin has pounded Ukrainian cities to rubble. And created millions of
>>refugees. And damaged the food supply to millions in other countries.
>
>That is is what you get for your interference.

Putin is shelling cities and slaughtering possibly millions, and
setting his people back decades, and it's our fault?

>
>>Any you blame the US?
>
>Of course :-)
>Was not that trying to present itself as world police?

No. Certainly not in Ukreaine.

>Oh wait defund the police
>
>US milli-tary Destructing Complex NEEDS war
>so after Afghanistan (where they left billions of their war tools)
>they new do the Europe thing again.

911 upset some people.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

On a sunny day (Mon, 02 May 2022 09:40:44 -0700) it happened John Larkin
<jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
<k7207ht2jh2kplncf5pmeti83o9hl3g834@4ax.com>:

>On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 06:13:41 GMT, Jan Panteltje
><pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 10:43:44 -0700) it happened John Larkin
>><jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
>><eq8o6htehhqt03esl729sjoot12p127sk9@4ax.com>:
>>
>>>Putin has pounded Ukrainian cities to rubble. And created millions of
>>>refugees. And damaged the food supply to millions in other countries.
>>
>>That is is what you get for your interference.
>
>Putin is shelling cities and slaughtering possibly millions, and
>setting his people back decades, and it's our fault?

US provoked it, using NATO slaves
its the same old song, make war, make money.
Everywhere where even a little bit of uprising is, is the CIA immediately present.
They will put petrol on the fire if possible. Not at home of course.
Euro a threat, EU economy a threat, nothing to lose make war again
(as Bil Clignon did).

>>
>>>Any you blame the US?
>>
>>Of course :-)
>>Was not that trying to present itself as world police?
>
>No. Certainly not in Ukreaine.

Worse than that sending billions of weapons there.

>
>>Oh wait defund the police
>>
>>US milli-tary Destructing Complex NEEDS war
>>so after Afghanistan (where they left billions of their war tools)
>>they new do the Europe thing again.
>
>911 upset some people.

What US did in Iraq (false 'weapons of mass destruction' claim) -> total destruction
use depleted Uranium ammo, what you did in Afghanistan (targeting civilians with drones),
what you did in Vietnam (Agent Orange), etc etc
Oh and what you did in Japan targeting civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki,
well the list is sooo long.
Your little high-rise is insignificant compared to all that.
The tide is now turning, the more I think about it the more nu-cu-lear becomes likely
Everybody and their cat has now nukes, there are other weapons too you have never heard of.

Any luck with those new transistors?
I bought a LNB in year 2000, still using it in a sat dish,
it has seen temperatures from about -30 C to ??? very hot with the sun directly on it
It has seen St Elmo's fire, and it is still very low noise with good frequency stability.
Wonder how those transistors will react to such environments.

On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 10:46:19 AM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Mon, 02 May 2022 09:40:44 -0700) it happened John Larkin
> <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
> <k7207ht2jh2kplncf...@4ax.com>:
> >911 upset some people.

> What US did in Iraq (false 'weapons of mass destruction' claim) -> total destruction

Of what? A regime, not a nation. That regime had mass graves before the US arrived,
used chemical weapons against its own citizens.

> use depleted Uranium ammo,

Yeah, against tanks. So, there's a few ounces of toxic dust residue; not a big problem,
compared to the explosive ammo also in the damaged vehicle. It's
an oddball kind of weapon, but not a remarkable one.

>what you did in Afghanistan (targeting civilians with drones),

Target selection at a distance is not perfect. It's the nature of the weapon,
and not a policy, nor a war crime.

> what you did in Vietnam (Agent Orange), etc etc

Killed weeds? Again, not remarkable.

> Oh and what you did in Japan targeting civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki,

Targets for area weapons are always... areas. Can't ever exclude collateral
casualties. Lusitania had civilians aboard, but... that, too, isn't a war crime.

> well the list is sooo long.

And, it's a list of PRATT, points-refuted-a-thousand-times.

On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 12:43:44 PM UTC-7, Dimiter Popoff wrote:
> On 4/28/2022 22:16, John Larkin wrote:
> > On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:00:41 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 12:56:42 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
> >>
> >>> I want everything on one wireless network. Internet, phones, TV, wifi,
> >>> home automation, cars, utility meters, security, webcams, everything.

> > What we have is a mess. Many cell companies have various spotty
> > coverage. Ditto cable TV and internet providers....
> > One uniform microcell mesh system would eliminate all that.
> >
> > Imagine progress.

> It would be nice for things to evolve this way but - and it is a huge
> BUT - the standards need to be public. They are anything but at the
> moment - the layers above IP and perhaps PPP are completely secret.

And, like old railways (incompatible track spacing) negotiation
of interoperability requires an overall authority (federal, in the US) to write up
a specification, and apply carrot (land grants for development of track) and
stick (we'll yank this subsidy if you don't meet this standard) pressure.

Network neutrality is one essential. Internet is an interoperability imperative, also essential.
Auctioning bandwidth and expecting the buyers to magically evolve an integrated
whole... not compatible with application of stick, nor a usably aimed carrot.

On Mon, 02 May 2022 17:46:03 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On a sunny day (Mon, 02 May 2022 09:40:44 -0700) it happened John Larkin
><jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
><k7207ht2jh2kplncf5pmeti83o9hl3g834@4ax.com>:
>
>>On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 06:13:41 GMT, Jan Panteltje
>><pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 10:43:44 -0700) it happened John Larkin
>>><jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
>>><eq8o6htehhqt03esl729sjoot12p127sk9@4ax.com>:
>>>
>>>>Putin has pounded Ukrainian cities to rubble. And created millions of
>>>>refugees. And damaged the food supply to millions in other countries.
>>>
>>>That is is what you get for your interference.
>>
>>Putin is shelling cities and slaughtering possibly millions, and
>>setting his people back decades, and it's our fault?
>
>US provoked it, using NATO slaves
>its the same old song, make war, make money.

The US has paid to defend europe from the Russians since WWII.

As T said, it's time for them to pay for their own defense.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 22:43:35 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
wrote:

>On 4/28/2022 22:16, John Larkin wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:00:41 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 12:56:42 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
>>>
>>>> I want everything on one wireless network. Internet, phones, TV, wifi,
>>>> home automation, cars, utility meters, security, webcams, everything.
>>>>
>>>> Privacy is over-rated.
>>>
>>> That's a laugh; Internet range is out to near Earth orbit, and you want your
>>> utility meters to compete for that against your TV remote control? One network
>>> isn't the answer, any more than one TV channel is the answer.
>>
>> What we have is a mess. Many cell companies have various spotty
>> coverage. Ditto cable TV and internet providers. Once people manage to
>> get an internet provider, they have to install their own cables and
>> wifi. Wires are strung on poles, sidewalks are dug up, dishes point
>> everywhere and rust or get blown away. People pay for multiple
>> services.
>>
>> One uniform microcell mesh system would eliminate all that.
>>
>> Imagine progress.
>>
>
>It would be nice for things to evolve this way but - and it is a huge
>BUT - the standards need to be public. They are anything but at the
>moment - the layers above IP and perhaps PPP are completely secret.
>

We have compatible, competitive TV and cell phone and internet
networks. It's not hard.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

Am 02.05.22 um 21:46 schrieb John Larkin:
> On Mon, 02 May 2022 17:46:03 GMT, Jan Panteltje
> <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>> Putin is shelling cities and slaughtering possibly millions, and
>>> setting his people back decades, and it's our fault?
>>
>> US provoked it, using NATO slaves
>> its the same old song, make war, make money.
>
> The US has paid to defend europe from the Russians since WWII.
>
> As T said, it's time for them to pay for their own defense.

No, you invested a bit to ensure your share of the prey.

Just the lesser evil.

Gerhard