On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 17:05:59 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On a sunny day (Thu, 28 Apr 2022 09:33:48 -0700) it happened
>jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
><o8gl6hpqq0s2truck4h0380vqa9kr1i8b1@4ax.com>:
>
>>On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 22:18:20 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabbypurr@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 21:52:04 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
>>>
>>>> >> I want everything on one wireless network. Internet, phones, TV, wifi,
>>>> >> home automation, cars, utility meters, security, webcams, everything.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Privacy is over-rated.
>>>> >>
>>>> >Until your social credit score gets too low and they punt you from
>>>> >everything at once.
>>>> >
>>>> >Cheers
>>>> >
>>>> >Phil Hobbs
>>>> But they can't punt everyone. In the USA at least, people would still
>>>> pay someone for the service and for bandwidth (I guess) so nobody
>>>> would be in charge and someone loses revenue if they lose a customer.
>>>>
>>>> Capitalism will find a way.
>>>
>>>Dictatorship outranks capitalism.
>>
>>Dictators, like Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Putin, think they understand
>>everything and then want to control everything. They kill hundreds of
>>millions.
>
>Yes you US have a milli-tairy Industrial Complex that killed millions recently
>with covid they designed.

It started at the lab in china.

>As you did in Vietnam with Agent Orange, the list is much longer.
>As you did in the war Bill Clignon, an other deamon crate, started in Europe
>ByeThen is not even original
>I think Putin is merely defending his people.

Defending? Against what?

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:00:41 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 12:56:42 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
>
>> I want everything on one wireless network. Internet, phones, TV, wifi,
>> home automation, cars, utility meters, security, webcams, everything.
>>
>> Privacy is over-rated.
>
>That's a laugh; Internet range is out to near Earth orbit, and you want your
>utility meters to compete for that against your TV remote control? One network
>isn't the answer, any more than one TV channel is the answer.

What we have is a mess. Many cell companies have various spotty
coverage. Ditto cable TV and internet providers. Once people manage to
get an internet provider, they have to install their own cables and
wifi. Wires are strung on poles, sidewalks are dug up, dishes point
everywhere and rust or get blown away. People pay for multiple
services.

One uniform microcell mesh system would eliminate all that.

Imagine progress.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

On 4/28/2022 22:16, John Larkin wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:00:41 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 12:56:42 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
>>
>>> I want everything on one wireless network. Internet, phones, TV, wifi,
>>> home automation, cars, utility meters, security, webcams, everything.
>>>
>>> Privacy is over-rated.
>>
>> That's a laugh; Internet range is out to near Earth orbit, and you want your
>> utility meters to compete for that against your TV remote control? One network
>> isn't the answer, any more than one TV channel is the answer.
>
> What we have is a mess. Many cell companies have various spotty
> coverage. Ditto cable TV and internet providers. Once people manage to
> get an internet provider, they have to install their own cables and
> wifi. Wires are strung on poles, sidewalks are dug up, dishes point
> everywhere and rust or get blown away. People pay for multiple
> services.
>
> One uniform microcell mesh system would eliminate all that.
>
> Imagine progress.
>

It would be nice for things to evolve this way but - and it is a huge
BUT - the standards need to be public. They are anything but at the
moment - the layers above IP and perhaps PPP are completely secret.

Privacy is overrated, as you say - I'd go a step further and say
privacy will disappear completely before we know, however it has to
disappear for *everyone*, *zero* exceptions.

On 2022-04-28, John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:00:41 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 12:56:42 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
>>
>>> I want everything on one wireless network. Internet, phones, TV, wifi,
>>> home automation, cars, utility meters, security, webcams, everything.
>>>
>>> Privacy is over-rated.
>>
>>That's a laugh; Internet range is out to near Earth orbit, and you want your
>>utility meters to compete for that against your TV remote control? One network
>>isn't the answer, any more than one TV channel is the answer.
>
> What we have is a mess. Many cell companies have various spotty
> coverage. Ditto cable TV and internet providers. Once people manage to
> get an internet provider, they have to install their own cables and
> wifi. Wires are strung on poles, sidewalks are dug up, dishes point
> everywhere and rust or get blown away. People pay for multiple
> services.
>
> One uniform microcell mesh system would eliminate all that.
>

The liberals will never go for that, the current mess is too
proffitable, those further to the right even more so.

--
Jasen.

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 20:06:46 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts
<usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote:

>On 2022-04-28, John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:00:41 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 12:56:42 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
>>>
>>>> I want everything on one wireless network. Internet, phones, TV, wifi,
>>>> home automation, cars, utility meters, security, webcams, everything.
>>>>
>>>> Privacy is over-rated.
>>>
>>>That's a laugh; Internet range is out to near Earth orbit, and you want your
>>>utility meters to compete for that against your TV remote control? One network
>>>isn't the answer, any more than one TV channel is the answer.
>>
>> What we have is a mess. Many cell companies have various spotty
>> coverage. Ditto cable TV and internet providers. Once people manage to
>> get an internet provider, they have to install their own cables and
>> wifi. Wires are strung on poles, sidewalks are dug up, dishes point
>> everywhere and rust or get blown away. People pay for multiple
>> services.
>>
>> One uniform microcell mesh system would eliminate all that.
>>
>
>The liberals will never go for that, the current mess is too
>proffitable, those further to the right even more so.

Then nothing will ever change. Progress has stopped.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

On a sunny day (Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:05:36 -0700) it happened John Larkin
<jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
<4apl6hlk37vd1381ddnod84vfq4bv44gr1@4ax.com>:

>On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 17:05:59 GMT, Jan Panteltje
><pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On a sunny day (Thu, 28 Apr 2022 09:33:48 -0700) it happened
>>jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
>><o8gl6hpqq0s2truck4h0380vqa9kr1i8b1@4ax.com>:
>>
>>>On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 22:18:20 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabbypurr@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 21:52:04 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> >> I want everything on one wireless network. Internet, phones, TV, wifi,
>>>>> >> home automation, cars, utility meters, security, webcams, everything.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Privacy is over-rated.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >Until your social credit score gets too low and they punt you from
>>>>> >everything at once.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Cheers
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Phil Hobbs
>>>>> But they can't punt everyone. In the USA at least, people would still
>>>>> pay someone for the service and for bandwidth (I guess) so nobody
>>>>> would be in charge and someone loses revenue if they lose a customer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Capitalism will find a way.
>>>>
>>>>Dictatorship outranks capitalism.
>>>
>>>Dictators, like Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Putin, think they understand
>>>everything and then want to control everything. They kill hundreds of
>>>millions.
>>
>>Yes you US have a milli-tairy Industrial Complex that killed millions recently
>>with covid they designed.
>
>It started at the lab in china.

US mini-tary Industrial Complex has dangerous research done in labs they finance all over the world,
far away from their own bed.
Backfired in this case, as it did wih HIV.

>>As you did in Vietnam with Agent Orange, the list is much longer.
>>As you did in the war Bill Clignon, an other deamon crate, started in Europe
>>ByeThen is not even original
>>I think Putin is merely defending his people.
>
>Defending? Against what?

Against what you called quote:
"Capitalism" really means pluralism,
letting lots of sane and crazy people try things to see what actually works."
_______________^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The crazy part is strong these days, Fauci a mass murderer,
Biden -the one with vacuum bubbles in his brain and his imported slaves- a dictator.

On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 00:32:09 -0700 (PDT)) it happened
Billy Slowman spit crap again

You are a waste of time!
Mental age < 10
IQ=

On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 4:52:04 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
>
> But they can't punt everyone. In the USA at least, people would still
> pay someone for the service and for bandwidth (I guess) so nobody
> would be in charge and someone loses revenue if they lose a customer.
>
> Capitalism will find a way.

But it will be impossible to charge BEVs and impossible to figure out how to prevent global warming. I guess we need to tie it into capitalism, oh, wait, it already is!

--

Rick C.

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On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 3:05:48 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 17:05:59 GMT, Jan Panteltje
> <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >Yes you US have a milli-tairy Industrial Complex that killed millions recently
> >with covid they designed.
> It started at the lab in china.

Sometimes this group is too funny. One conspiracy theory vs. another conspiracy theory. I guess you can tell which one is right by noting who is abducted in the middle of the night by the black helicopter guys.

Lol!

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On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 3:16:32 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 02:00:41 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 12:56:42 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
> >
> >> I want everything on one wireless network. Internet, phones, TV, wifi,
> >> home automation, cars, utility meters, security, webcams, everything.
> >>
> >> Privacy is over-rated.
> >
> >That's a laugh; Internet range is out to near Earth orbit, and you want your
> >utility meters to compete for that against your TV remote control? One network
> >isn't the answer, any more than one TV channel is the answer.
> What we have is a mess. Many cell companies have various spotty
> coverage. Ditto cable TV and internet providers. Once people manage to
> get an internet provider, they have to install their own cables and
> wifi. Wires are strung on poles, sidewalks are dug up, dishes point
> everywhere and rust or get blown away. People pay for multiple
> services.

And this guy thinks those concerned about climate change are alarmists! "The world is coming to an end! My cable is out!!!"

--

Rick C.

-+- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-+- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 7:02:35 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 00:32:09 -0700 (PDT)) it happened
> Billy Slowman spit crap again
>
> You are a waste of time!
> Mental age < 10
> IQ=

Google Translate: Jan >>> What everyone else speaks

"I can't debate Bill's rational arguments, so I'll call names."

Sometimes this group is better than watching Buddy Hacket or Rodney Dangerfield.

--

Rick C.

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-++ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 05:50:31 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On a sunny day (Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:05:36 -0700) it happened John Larkin
><jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
><4apl6hlk37vd1381ddnod84vfq4bv44gr1@4ax.com>:
>
>>On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 17:05:59 GMT, Jan Panteltje
>><pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On a sunny day (Thu, 28 Apr 2022 09:33:48 -0700) it happened
>>>jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
>>><o8gl6hpqq0s2truck4h0380vqa9kr1i8b1@4ax.com>:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 22:18:20 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabbypurr@gmail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 21:52:04 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> >> I want everything on one wireless network. Internet, phones, TV, wifi,
>>>>>> >> home automation, cars, utility meters, security, webcams, everything.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Privacy is over-rated.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >Until your social credit score gets too low and they punt you from
>>>>>> >everything at once.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Cheers
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Phil Hobbs
>>>>>> But they can't punt everyone. In the USA at least, people would still
>>>>>> pay someone for the service and for bandwidth (I guess) so nobody
>>>>>> would be in charge and someone loses revenue if they lose a customer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Capitalism will find a way.
>>>>>
>>>>>Dictatorship outranks capitalism.
>>>>
>>>>Dictators, like Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Putin, think they understand
>>>>everything and then want to control everything. They kill hundreds of
>>>>millions.
>>>
>>>Yes you US have a milli-tairy Industrial Complex that killed millions recently
>>>with covid they designed.
>>
>>It started at the lab in china.
>
>US mini-tary Industrial Complex has dangerous research done in labs they finance all over the world,
>far away from their own bed.
>Backfired in this case, as it did wih HIV.
>
>
>>>As you did in Vietnam with Agent Orange, the list is much longer.
>>>As you did in the war Bill Clignon, an other deamon crate, started in Europe
>>>ByeThen is not even original
>>>I think Putin is merely defending his people.
>>
>>Defending? Against what?
>
>Against what you called quote:
> "Capitalism" really means pluralism,
> letting lots of sane and crazy people try things to see what actually works."
> _______________^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>The crazy part is strong these days, Fauci a mass murderer,
>Biden -the one with vacuum bubbles in his brain and his imported slaves- a dictator.
>

Russia has one insane person in charge. Millions will die.

--

Anybody can count to one.

- Robert Widlar

On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 07:26:11 -0700) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
<iatn6hlijku89m4aoo1hvanqlfc28im5c7@4ax.com>:

>Russia has one insane person in charge. Millions will die.

Well, that could be you.
Hey, maybe you were right about life from space
https://www.space.com/meteorites-brought-dna-blocks-to-early-earth
? More likely it formed here, but ALIEN could have stuffed some balls too :-)

On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 14:46:18 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 07:26:11 -0700) it happened
>jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
><iatn6hlijku89m4aoo1hvanqlfc28im5c7@4ax.com>:
>
>>Russia has one insane person in charge. Millions will die.
>
>Well, that could be you.

Unikely. The deaths will be from disease and starvation in poor
countries. They are already suffering from covid lockdown side
effects.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01022-x

--

Anybody can count to one.

- Robert Widlar

On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 08:33:45 -0700) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
<j31o6hhsnroa0mm1bgqja8osaamn55luhs@4ax.com>:

>On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 14:46:18 GMT, Jan Panteltje
><pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 07:26:11 -0700) it happened
>>jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
>><iatn6hlijku89m4aoo1hvanqlfc28im5c7@4ax.com>:
>>
>>>Russia has one insane person in charge. Millions will die.
>>
>>Well, that could be you.
>
>Unikely. The deaths will be from disease and starvation in poor
>countries. They are already suffering from covid lockdown side
>effects.
>
>https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01022-x

The war ByeThen provoked in Ukraine brings many Ukrainians here
and hopefully also to the US that have not had shots against measles and other common illnesses
most of us have been inoculated against.
Russia is one of the biggest grain producers and now you have to get it elsewhere
so the poor no longer have bread (more expensive).
As US seems to try to pester Russia to the maximum
a good chance that you get nuked and not only by Russia, many may join in,
think China, N Korea, who has NO nukes these days?
Biden with the stuff missing in the ball on his shoulders may indeed trigger WW3.
Take a globe, look a the size of N America, can hardly find it... ;-0
All your so called allies will flee, leave you and your polly -tics, prefer to survive.
Big Mafia gone

On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 16:49:42 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 08:33:45 -0700) it happened
>jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
><j31o6hhsnroa0mm1bgqja8osaamn55luhs@4ax.com>:
>
>>On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 14:46:18 GMT, Jan Panteltje
>><pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 07:26:11 -0700) it happened
>>>jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
>>><iatn6hlijku89m4aoo1hvanqlfc28im5c7@4ax.com>:
>>>
>>>>Russia has one insane person in charge. Millions will die.
>>>
>>>Well, that could be you.
>>
>>Unikely. The deaths will be from disease and starvation in poor
>>countries. They are already suffering from covid lockdown side
>>effects.
>>
>>https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01022-x
>
>The war ByeThen provoked in Ukraine

How did he do that?

Did the US and Ukraine attack Russia?

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 10:02:25 -0700) it happened John Larkin
<jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
<ve6o6hp5q5bet379q1lt5u53v5t2gasq4n@4ax.com>:

>On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 16:49:42 GMT, Jan Panteltje
><pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 08:33:45 -0700) it happened
>>jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
>><j31o6hhsnroa0mm1bgqja8osaamn55luhs@4ax.com>:
>>
>>>On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 14:46:18 GMT, Jan Panteltje
>>><pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 07:26:11 -0700) it happened
>>>>jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
>>>><iatn6hlijku89m4aoo1hvanqlfc28im5c7@4ax.com>:
>>>>
>>>>>Russia has one insane person in charge. Millions will die.
>>>>
>>>>Well, that could be you.
>>>
>>>Unikely. The deaths will be from disease and starvation in poor
>>>countries. They are already suffering from covid lockdown side
>>>effects.
>>>
>>>https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01022-x
>>
>>The war ByeThen provoked in Ukraine
>
>How did he do that?
>
>Did the US and Ukraine attack Russia?

By breaking the 2014 peace deal by stuffing more weapons directly on the Russian border
supporting Ukraine in making Donbas its own, the usual CIA shit
with shitlensky their sad puppet.
US does that everywhere: sanctions, Cuba, Venezuela, steal their money
break deals (Iran), force injustice (International court in the Hague here
should now sue Russia for war crimes, but Bushman threatened to invade here when it
wanted to sue US soldiers for war crimes.
I was just reading this:
https://www.rt.com/russia/554720-china-us-goals-ukraine/
that site has the views you should also check, not only what ByeThen and his puppet press spews at you.
>

On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 17:14:43 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 10:02:25 -0700) it happened John Larkin
><jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
><ve6o6hp5q5bet379q1lt5u53v5t2gasq4n@4ax.com>:
>
>>On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 16:49:42 GMT, Jan Panteltje
>><pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 08:33:45 -0700) it happened
>>>jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
>>><j31o6hhsnroa0mm1bgqja8osaamn55luhs@4ax.com>:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 14:46:18 GMT, Jan Panteltje
>>>><pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 07:26:11 -0700) it happened
>>>>>jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
>>>>><iatn6hlijku89m4aoo1hvanqlfc28im5c7@4ax.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Russia has one insane person in charge. Millions will die.
>>>>>
>>>>>Well, that could be you.
>>>>
>>>>Unikely. The deaths will be from disease and starvation in poor
>>>>countries. They are already suffering from covid lockdown side
>>>>effects.
>>>>
>>>>https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01022-x
>>>
>>>The war ByeThen provoked in Ukraine
>>
>>How did he do that?
>>
>>Did the US and Ukraine attack Russia?
>
>By breaking the 2014 peace deal by stuffing more weapons directly on the Russian border
>supporting Ukraine in making Donbas its own, the usual CIA shit
>with shitlensky their sad puppet.
>US does that everywhere: sanctions, Cuba, Venezuela, steal their money
>break deals (Iran), force injustice (International court in the Hague here
>should now sue Russia for war crimes, but Bushman threatened to invade here when it
>wanted to sue US soldiers for war crimes.
>I was just reading this:
> https://www.rt.com/russia/554720-china-us-goals-ukraine/
>that site has the views you should also check, not only what ByeThen and his puppet press spews at you.
>>

Putin has pounded Ukrainian cities to rubble. And created millions of
refugees. And damaged the food supply to millions in other countries.

Any you blame the US?

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 10:14:51 AM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 10:02:25 -0700) it happened John Larkin
> <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
> <ve6o6hp5q5bet379q...@4ax.com>:
> >On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 16:49:42 GMT, Jan Panteltje
> ><pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> >>The war ByeThen provoked in Ukraine
> >
> >How did he do that?
> >
> >Did the US and Ukraine attack Russia?

> By breaking the 2014 peace deal by stuffing more weapons directly on the Russian border

.... well, that 'more weapons' thing is in the news, but it happened AFTER Russia attacked.
As a cause-and=effect theory, that's backward.

> supporting Ukraine in making Donbas its own, the usual CIA shit

Donbas was invaded, and Ukraine response was relatively mild; as for CIA,
US intelligence did note that Russia was about to invade Ukraine; isn't that a good
thing? European wars always spread, the rest of the world HAS to have good
intelligence to cope intelligently.

> with shitlensky their sad puppet.

The 'puppet' word is either a baseless insult, or a bit of propoganda, but not
in correspondence with the reality of an elected leader of a democratic nation.

> US does that everywhere:

If Jan smells excrement everywhere he goes, I know what the source
of that odor is.

On 4/29/2022 20:43, John Larkin wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 17:14:43 GMT, Jan Panteltje
> <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 10:02:25 -0700) it happened John Larkin
>> <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
>> <ve6o6hp5q5bet379q1lt5u53v5t2gasq4n@4ax.com>:
>>
>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 16:49:42 GMT, Jan Panteltje
>>> <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 08:33:45 -0700) it happened
>>>> jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
>>>> <j31o6hhsnroa0mm1bgqja8osaamn55luhs@4ax.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 14:46:18 GMT, Jan Panteltje
>>>>> <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 07:26:11 -0700) it happened
>>>>>> jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
>>>>>> <iatn6hlijku89m4aoo1hvanqlfc28im5c7@4ax.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Russia has one insane person in charge. Millions will die.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, that could be you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unikely. The deaths will be from disease and starvation in poor
>>>>> countries. They are already suffering from covid lockdown side
>>>>> effects.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01022-x
>>>>
>>>> The war ByeThen provoked in Ukraine
>>>
>>> How did he do that?
>>>
>>> Did the US and Ukraine attack Russia?
>>
>> By breaking the 2014 peace deal by stuffing more weapons directly on the Russian border
>> supporting Ukraine in making Donbas its own, the usual CIA shit
>> with shitlensky their sad puppet.
>> US does that everywhere: sanctions, Cuba, Venezuela, steal their money
>> break deals (Iran), force injustice (International court in the Hague here
>> should now sue Russia for war crimes, but Bushman threatened to invade here when it
>> wanted to sue US soldiers for war crimes.
>> I was just reading this:
>> https://www.rt.com/russia/554720-china-us-goals-ukraine/
>> that site has the views you should also check, not only what ByeThen and his puppet press spews at you.
>>>
>
> Putin has pounded Ukrainian cities to rubble. And created millions of
> refugees. And damaged the food supply to millions in other countries.
>
> Any you blame the US?
>

What do you expect of someone following Russian media.
You won't believe the sort of utter nonsense they pour all the time
and yes, there are people who do believe it - not because it is not
laughable, it is of course, but because there are people wanting to
believe it out of hatred to the US, EU etc.

On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 21:36:37 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
wrote:

>On 4/29/2022 20:43, John Larkin wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 17:14:43 GMT, Jan Panteltje
>> <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 10:02:25 -0700) it happened John Larkin
>>> <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
>>> <ve6o6hp5q5bet379q1lt5u53v5t2gasq4n@4ax.com>:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 16:49:42 GMT, Jan Panteltje
>>>> <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 08:33:45 -0700) it happened
>>>>> jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
>>>>> <j31o6hhsnroa0mm1bgqja8osaamn55luhs@4ax.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 14:46:18 GMT, Jan Panteltje
>>>>>> <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 07:26:11 -0700) it happened
>>>>>>> jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
>>>>>>> <iatn6hlijku89m4aoo1hvanqlfc28im5c7@4ax.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Russia has one insane person in charge. Millions will die.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, that could be you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unikely. The deaths will be from disease and starvation in poor
>>>>>> countries. They are already suffering from covid lockdown side
>>>>>> effects.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01022-x
>>>>>
>>>>> The war ByeThen provoked in Ukraine
>>>>
>>>> How did he do that?
>>>>
>>>> Did the US and Ukraine attack Russia?
>>>
>>> By breaking the 2014 peace deal by stuffing more weapons directly on the Russian border
>>> supporting Ukraine in making Donbas its own, the usual CIA shit
>>> with shitlensky their sad puppet.
>>> US does that everywhere: sanctions, Cuba, Venezuela, steal their money
>>> break deals (Iran), force injustice (International court in the Hague here
>>> should now sue Russia for war crimes, but Bushman threatened to invade here when it
>>> wanted to sue US soldiers for war crimes.
>>> I was just reading this:
>>> https://www.rt.com/russia/554720-china-us-goals-ukraine/
>>> that site has the views you should also check, not only what ByeThen and his puppet press spews at you.
>>>>
>>
>> Putin has pounded Ukrainian cities to rubble. And created millions of
>> refugees. And damaged the food supply to millions in other countries.
>>
>> Any you blame the US?
>>
>
>What do you expect of someone following Russian media.
>You won't believe the sort of utter nonsense they pour all the time
>and yes, there are people who do believe it - not because it is not
>laughable, it is of course, but because there are people wanting to
>believe it out of hatred to the US, EU etc.

Why do so many people hate the US?

Maybe it's the chinese proverb: If you save someone's life, they will
hate you forever.

A lot of USians hate California. They fear that it's as wonderful as
the rumors suggest. It is.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

John Larkin wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 17:14:43 GMT, Jan Panteltje
> <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 10:02:25 -0700) it happened John Larkin
>> <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
>> <ve6o6hp5q5bet379q1lt5u53v5t2gasq4n@4ax.com>:
>>
>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 16:49:42 GMT, Jan Panteltje
>>> <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 08:33:45 -0700) it happened
>>>> jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
>>>> <j31o6hhsnroa0mm1bgqja8osaamn55luhs@4ax.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 14:46:18 GMT, Jan Panteltje
>>>>> <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 07:26:11 -0700) it happened
>>>>>> jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
>>>>>> <iatn6hlijku89m4aoo1hvanqlfc28im5c7@4ax.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Russia has one insane person in charge. Millions will die.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, that could be you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unikely. The deaths will be from disease and starvation in poor
>>>>> countries. They are already suffering from covid lockdown side
>>>>> effects.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01022-x
>>>>
>>>> The war ByeThen provoked in Ukraine
>>>
>>> How did he do that?
>>>
>>> Did the US and Ukraine attack Russia?
>>
>> By breaking the 2014 peace deal by stuffing more weapons directly on the Russian border
>> supporting Ukraine in making Donbas its own, the usual CIA shit
>> with shitlensky their sad puppet.
>> US does that everywhere: sanctions, Cuba, Venezuela, steal their money
>> break deals (Iran), force injustice (International court in the Hague here
>> should now sue Russia for war crimes, but Bushman threatened to invade here when it
>> wanted to sue US soldiers for war crimes.
>> I was just reading this:
>> https://www.rt.com/russia/554720-china-us-goals-ukraine/
>> that site has the views you should also check, not only what ByeThen and his puppet press spews at you.
>>>
>
> Putin has pounded Ukrainian cities to rubble. And created millions of
> refugees. And damaged the food supply to millions in other countries.
>
> Any you blame the US?
>

This is SED, after all--half the fun is winding up other folks about
anything they care about. I've been guilty of doing that to Collins
regarding FORTH, for instance. ;)

Not everybody here is super careful about confining that sport to topics
that don't involve suffering and death, unfortunately. But the pieties
of our various patriotisms are reasonably fair game, ISTM.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

(Who doesn't get tired of teasing either the French or the
radiometry/photometry crowd about their grandiose schemes for world
domination of one sort or another.)

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

John Larkin wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 21:36:37 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 4/29/2022 20:43, John Larkin wrote:
>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 17:14:43 GMT, Jan Panteltje
>>> <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 10:02:25 -0700) it happened John Larkin
>>>> <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
>>>> <ve6o6hp5q5bet379q1lt5u53v5t2gasq4n@4ax.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 16:49:42 GMT, Jan Panteltje
>>>>> <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 08:33:45 -0700) it happened
>>>>>> jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
>>>>>> <j31o6hhsnroa0mm1bgqja8osaamn55luhs@4ax.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 14:46:18 GMT, Jan Panteltje
>>>>>>> <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 07:26:11 -0700) it happened
>>>>>>>> jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
>>>>>>>> <iatn6hlijku89m4aoo1hvanqlfc28im5c7@4ax.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Russia has one insane person in charge. Millions will die.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, that could be you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unikely. The deaths will be from disease and starvation in poor
>>>>>>> countries. They are already suffering from covid lockdown side
>>>>>>> effects.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01022-x
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The war ByeThen provoked in Ukraine
>>>>>
>>>>> How did he do that?
>>>>>
>>>>> Did the US and Ukraine attack Russia?
>>>>
>>>> By breaking the 2014 peace deal by stuffing more weapons directly on the Russian border
>>>> supporting Ukraine in making Donbas its own, the usual CIA shit
>>>> with shitlensky their sad puppet.
>>>> US does that everywhere: sanctions, Cuba, Venezuela, steal their money
>>>> break deals (Iran), force injustice (International court in the Hague here
>>>> should now sue Russia for war crimes, but Bushman threatened to invade here when it
>>>> wanted to sue US soldiers for war crimes.
>>>> I was just reading this:
>>>> https://www.rt.com/russia/554720-china-us-goals-ukraine/
>>>> that site has the views you should also check, not only what ByeThen and his puppet press spews at you.
>>>>>
>>>
>>> Putin has pounded Ukrainian cities to rubble. And created millions of
>>> refugees. And damaged the food supply to millions in other countries.
>>>
>>> Any you blame the US?
>>>
>>
>> What do you expect of someone following Russian media.
>> You won't believe the sort of utter nonsense they pour all the time
>> and yes, there are people who do believe it - not because it is not
>> laughable, it is of course, but because there are people wanting to
>> believe it out of hatred to the US, EU etc.
>
> Why do so many people hate the US?
>
> Maybe it's the chinese proverb: If you save someone's life, they will
> hate you forever.
>
> A lot of USians hate California. They fear that it's as wonderful as
> the rumors suggest. It is.

Nah, I've lived in California and I dislike it too. It's not the
individual people, just the plastic ambiance and the relentless brown of
the vegetation for most of the year.

Nice enough place to visit, and of course I still have some good friends
there, which makes it reasonably OK in small-to-medium doses. ;)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 20:47:30 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

>John Larkin wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 21:36:37 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/29/2022 20:43, John Larkin wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 17:14:43 GMT, Jan Panteltje
>>>> <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 10:02:25 -0700) it happened John Larkin
>>>>> <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
>>>>> <ve6o6hp5q5bet379q1lt5u53v5t2gasq4n@4ax.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 16:49:42 GMT, Jan Panteltje
>>>>>> <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 08:33:45 -0700) it happened
>>>>>>> jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
>>>>>>> <j31o6hhsnroa0mm1bgqja8osaamn55luhs@4ax.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 14:46:18 GMT, Jan Panteltje
>>>>>>>> <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 07:26:11 -0700) it happened
>>>>>>>>> jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>> <iatn6hlijku89m4aoo1hvanqlfc28im5c7@4ax.com>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Russia has one insane person in charge. Millions will die.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, that could be you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Unikely. The deaths will be from disease and starvation in poor
>>>>>>>> countries. They are already suffering from covid lockdown side
>>>>>>>> effects.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01022-x
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The war ByeThen provoked in Ukraine
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How did he do that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did the US and Ukraine attack Russia?
>>>>>
>>>>> By breaking the 2014 peace deal by stuffing more weapons directly on the Russian border
>>>>> supporting Ukraine in making Donbas its own, the usual CIA shit
>>>>> with shitlensky their sad puppet.
>>>>> US does that everywhere: sanctions, Cuba, Venezuela, steal their money
>>>>> break deals (Iran), force injustice (International court in the Hague here
>>>>> should now sue Russia for war crimes, but Bushman threatened to invade here when it
>>>>> wanted to sue US soldiers for war crimes.
>>>>> I was just reading this:
>>>>> https://www.rt.com/russia/554720-china-us-goals-ukraine/
>>>>> that site has the views you should also check, not only what ByeThen and his puppet press spews at you.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Putin has pounded Ukrainian cities to rubble. And created millions of
>>>> refugees. And damaged the food supply to millions in other countries.
>>>>
>>>> Any you blame the US?
>>>>
>>>
>>> What do you expect of someone following Russian media.
>>> You won't believe the sort of utter nonsense they pour all the time
>>> and yes, there are people who do believe it - not because it is not
>>> laughable, it is of course, but because there are people wanting to
>>> believe it out of hatred to the US, EU etc.
>>
>> Why do so many people hate the US?
>>
>> Maybe it's the chinese proverb: If you save someone's life, they will
>> hate you forever.
>>
>> A lot of USians hate California. They fear that it's as wonderful as
>> the rumors suggest. It is.
>
>Nah, I've lived in California and I dislike it too. It's not the
>individual people, just the plastic ambiance and the relentless brown of
>the vegetation for most of the year.

Well, just hang out on the coast and the mountains, and drive through
the middle fast.

I studied America for 6 months. Traveled, researched, subscribed to
newspapers. I decided it would be Portland or San Francisco, and the
pollen counts favored SF. It's wonderful is you just ignore the
people.

>
>Nice enough place to visit, and of course I still have some good friends
>there, which makes it reasonably OK in small-to-medium doses. ;)

I'm small-to-medium.

--

Anybody can count to one.

- Robert Widlar

On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 11:27:10 -0700 (PDT)) it happened whit3rd
<whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote in
<d57fd738-17cc-4b21-b49f-603d41bd51bcn@googlegroups.com>:

>On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 10:14:51 AM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Apr 2022 10:02:25 -0700) it happened John Larkin
>> <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
>> <ve6o6hp5q5bet379q...@4ax.com>:
>> >On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 16:49:42 GMT, Jan Panteltje
>> ><pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> >>The war ByeThen provoked in Ukraine
>> >
>> >How did he do that?
>> >
>> >Did the US and Ukraine attack Russia?
>
>> By breaking the 2014 peace deal by stuffing more weapons directly on the Russian border
>
>... well, that 'more weapons' thing is in the news, but it happened AFTER Russia attacked.
>As a cause-and=effect theory, that's backward.
>
>> supporting Ukraine in making Donbas its own, the usual CIA shit
>
>Donbas was invaded, and Ukraine response was relatively mild; as for CIA,
>US intelligence did note that Russia was about to invade Ukraine; isn't that a good
>thing? European wars always spread, the rest of the world HAS to have good
>intelligence to cope intelligently.
>
>> with shitlensky their sad puppet.
>
>The 'puppet' word is either a baseless insult, or a bit of propoganda, but not
>in correspondence with the reality of an elected leader of a democratic nation.
>
>> US does that everywhere:
>
>If Jan smells excrement everywhere he goes, I know what the source
>of that odor is.

Interesting to perhaps your kind that you fall back in the excrement here.
But really the 2014 agreement was broken.
Ukraine was taken from Russia by a revolt.

Its probably no use arguing with people who have been indoctrinated from birth by US media.
'US intelligence did note that Russia was about to invade Ukraine'
ha, and some US news[tissue ;-)]paper announced that prematurely, its just a script,
written by the puppeteers.

You have no idea how CIA works.

But the US Empire is on its return, the IQ is falling, the debt is rising, the infrastructure is collapsing,
the products are worsening, the crime in increasing, the inflation is rising, the homelessness in increasing
and you want top EXPORT that to other parts of the world? By FORCE AND OR deceit?
Come on!

Nobody wants the US dream ehh NIGHTMARE.