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by: Spam-I-Am - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 17:19 UTC

On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:56:16 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:49:26 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:46:58 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:43:06 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:40:03 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:31:24 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:26:50 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:16:38 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:07:57 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:59:42 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:55:31 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:43:45 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:39:00 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 12:48:59 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On 2022-12-02 4:52 p.m., Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 4:31:31 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> I mean things like Pendragon's vanity poetry project, since you really don't seem to understand...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >>>>>> Dance and Dockery have the same problem
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >>>>> No, not at all the same as such ego trips as Sunday Sampler and AYOS... you should know better than that, Corey......
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >>>> Not the same to you, because you’re blinded by friendship
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> No, it simply isn't the same thing, Corey.....
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> Whatever you say.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > You don't know the difference?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I suspect Corey may know, and just be hoping you don't for the win. The
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Ashtroll, OTOH, is probably genuinely ignorant.. So let's give them a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> definition:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> vanity press
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> : a publishing house that publishes books at the author's expense
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> called also vanity publisher
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> AYoS is a vanity publication, because the writers give the publisher the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> text and art, and then pay him for copies of their books. Your /SP/ was
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> not.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps I should explain my reasoning for judging them similarly.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don’t see that there is any public need or demand for either work,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > thusly neither publication would exist but for the vanity of the people
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > involved in its publishing.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Okay, fair enough judgement, and can apply to poetry in general, in these modern times.
> > > > > > > > > > > > You can apply your judgment as generally as you’d like. I prefer specificity.
> > > > > > > > > > > Yet you rarely answer specific questions.
> > > > > > > > > > There is both a public need and demand for poetry “in these modern times”,
> > > > > > > > > Can you give some examples?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Be specific.
> > > > > > > > Sure, but not under duress. When you can respond
> > > > > > > > to me without dishonestly post-editing my previous
> > > > > > > > comments, I’ll be happy to help you in any way I can.
> > > > > > > Okay, thanks, and have a nice day.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Likewise, I’m sure.
> > > > > Great, something we can agree on.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Wrong answer
> > > Likewise, I'm sure.
> > >
> >
> > Donkey do duly noted.
> Childish name-calling from Corey duly noted.

Donkey do is defined as anything you do that isn’t
conducive to courteous discourse, like post-editing.

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by: Will Dockery - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 17:47 UTC

Spam-I-Am wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>> Spam-I-Am wrote:
>> > Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> > > > >>>>>>> I mean things like Pendragon's vanity poetry project, since you really don't seem to understand...
>> > >> > > >> >>>>>> Dance and Dockery have the same problem
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >>>>> No, not at all the same as such ego trips as Sunday Sampler and AYOS... you should know better than that, Corey.......
>> > > > > > > >> >>>> Not the same to you, because you’re blinded by friendship
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> No, it simply isn't the same thing, Corey......
>> > > > >> > > >> >> Whatever you say.
>
>> > > > > > >> > You don't know the difference?
>> > > > > >> I suspect Corey may know, and just be hoping you don't for the win. The Ashtroll, OTOH, is probably genuinely ignorant.. So let's give them a definition:
>
>> > > > > > > > > vanity press: a publishing house that publishes books at the author's expense
>> > > > > > > >> called also vanity publisher
>
>> > > > > > > > AYoS is a vanity publication, because the writers give the publisher the
>> > > > > > > >text and art, and then pay him for copies of their books. Your /SP/ was not.
>
>> > > > > > > > Perhaps I should explain my reasoning for judging them similarly.
>
> > > > > > > > > > I don’t see that there is any public need or demand for either work,
>> > > > > > > > > thusly neither publication would exist but for the vanity of the people
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > involved in its publishing.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Okay, fair enough judgement, and can apply to poetry in general, in these modern times.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > You can apply your judgment as generally as you’d like. I prefer specificity.
>> > > > > > > > > > > Yet you rarely answer specific questions.
>> > > > > > > > > > There is both a public need and demand for poetry “in these modern times”,
>> > > > > > > > > Can you give some examples?
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Be specific.
>> > > > > > > > Sure, but not under duress. When you can respond
>> > > > > > > > to me without dishonestly post-editing my previous
>> > > > > > > > comments, I’ll be happy to help you in any way I can.
>> > > > > > > Okay, thanks, and have a nice day.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Likewise, I’m sure.
>> > > > > Great, something we can agree on.
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Wrong answer
>> > > Likewise, I'm sure.
>> > >
>> >
>> > Donkey do duly noted.
>> Childish name-calling from Corey duly noted.

> Donkey do is xxxxx xxxxxxxx

Like I said.

🙂

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by: Spam-I-Am - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 19:15 UTC

On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 12:47:26 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> >> > Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> >> > > > >>>>>>> I mean things like Pendragon's vanity poetry project, since you really don't seem to understand...
> >> > >> > > >> >>>>>> Dance and Dockery have the same problem
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >>>>> No, not at all the same as such ego trips as Sunday Sampler and AYOS... you should know better than that, Corey.......
> >> > > > > > > >> >>>> Not the same to you, because you’re blinded by friendship
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> No, it simply isn't the same thing, Corey.....
> >> > > > >> > > >> >> Whatever you say.
> >
> >> > > > > > >> > You don't know the difference?
> >> > > > > >> I suspect Corey may know, and just be hoping you don't for the win. The Ashtroll, OTOH, is probably genuinely ignorant.. So let's give them a definition:
> >
> >> > > > > > > > > vanity press: a publishing house that publishes books at the author's expense
> >> > > > > > > >> called also vanity publisher
> >
> >> > > > > > > > AYoS is a vanity publication, because the writers give the publisher the
> >> > > > > > > >text and art, and then pay him for copies of their books. Your /SP/ was not.
> >
> >> > > > > > > > Perhaps I should explain my reasoning for judging them similarly.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > I don’t see that there is any public need or demand for either work,
> >> > > > > > > > > thusly neither publication would exist but for the vanity of the people
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > involved in its publishing.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Okay, fair enough judgement, and can apply to poetry in general, in these modern times.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > You can apply your judgment as generally as you’d like. I prefer specificity.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > Yet you rarely answer specific questions.
> >> > > > > > > > > > There is both a public need and demand for poetry “in these modern times”,
> >> > > > > > > > > Can you give some examples?
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > Be specific.
> >> > > > > > > > Sure, but not under duress. When you can respond
> >> > > > > > > > to me without dishonestly post-editing my previous
> >> > > > > > > > comments, I’ll be happy to help you in any way I can.
> >> > > > > > > Okay, thanks, and have a nice day.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Likewise, I’m sure.
> >> > > > > Great, something we can agree on.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Wrong answer
> >> > > Likewise, I'm sure.
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > Donkey do duly noted.
> >> Childish name-calling from Corey duly noted.
> > Donkey do is xxxxx xxxxxxxx
>
> Like I said.
>
> 🙂

Donkey do noted, again.

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by: W-Dockery - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 19:36 UTC

Family Guy wrote:

> On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 9:10:26 AM UTC-5, ME wrote:
>> On Saturday, 26 November 2022 at 08:57:22 UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> > George Dance has stated that th
e child described was not him
>> >
>> > HTH and HAND.
>> Not exactly.
>> But you seem to be ok with the fact the it was autobiographical, which dance insinuated before. It’s all archived will.
>> And ya’ll do love your archives.
>>
>> Sometimes you and yours just share TMI here….

> TMI for Dockery is when he is still breathing.
> Die in a fire, Will.

Your foolish death fantasies are TMI, Dink.

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by: Will Dockery - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 19:41 UTC

On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 2:15:24 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 12:47:26 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > >> > Will Dockery wrote:
> > >
> > >> > > > >>>>>>> I mean things like Pendragon's vanity poetry project, since you really don't seem to understand...
> > >> > >> > > >> >>>>>> Dance and Dockery have the same problem
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >>>>> No, not at all the same as such ego trips as Sunday Sampler and AYOS... you should know better than that, Corey......
> > >> > > > > > > >> >>>> Not the same to you, because you’re blinded by friendship
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> No, it simply isn't the same thing, Corey.....
> > >> > > > >> > > >> >> Whatever you say.
> > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > You don't know the difference?
> > >> > > > > >> I suspect Corey may know, and just be hoping you don't for the win. The Ashtroll, OTOH, is probably genuinely ignorant.. So let's give them a definition:
> > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > vanity press: a publishing house that publishes books at the author's expense
> > >> > > > > > > >> called also vanity publisher
> > >
> > >> > > > > > > > AYoS is a vanity publication, because the writers give the publisher the
> > >> > > > > > > >text and art, and then pay him for copies of their books. Your /SP/ was not.
> > >
> > >> > > > > > > > Perhaps I should explain my reasoning for judging them similarly.
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I don’t see that there is any public need or demand for either work,
> > >> > > > > > > > > thusly neither publication would exist but for the vanity of the people
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > involved in its publishing.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Okay, fair enough judgement, and can apply to poetry in general, in these modern times.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > You can apply your judgment as generally as you’d like. I prefer specificity.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Yet you rarely answer specific questions.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > There is both a public need and demand for poetry “in these modern times”,
> > >> > > > > > > > > Can you give some examples?
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > Be specific.
> > >> > > > > > > > Sure, but not under duress. When you can respond
> > >> > > > > > > > to me without dishonestly post-editing my previous
> > >> > > > > > > > comments, I’ll be happy to help you in any way I can.
> > >> > > > > > > Okay, thanks, and have a nice day.
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Likewise, I’m sure.
> > >> > > > > Great, something we can agree on.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Wrong answer
> > >> > > Likewise, I'm sure.
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> > Donkey do duly noted.
> > >> Childish name-calling from Corey duly noted.
> > > Donkey do is xxxxx xxxxxxxx
> >
> > Like I said.
> >
>
> Donkey do noted, again.

Corey's childish name-calling noted again.

🙂

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by: Spam-I-Am - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 19:45 UTC

On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 2:41:06 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 2:15:24 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 12:47:26 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > >> > Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> > > > >>>>>>> I mean things like Pendragon's vanity poetry project, since you really don't seem to understand...
> > > >> > >> > > >> >>>>>> Dance and Dockery have the same problem
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >>>>> No, not at all the same as such ego trips as Sunday Sampler and AYOS... you should know better than that, Corey......
> > > >> > > > > > > >> >>>> Not the same to you, because you’re blinded by friendship
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> No, it simply isn't the same thing, Corey.....
> > > >> > > > >> > > >> >> Whatever you say.
> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > You don't know the difference?
> > > >> > > > > >> I suspect Corey may know, and just be hoping you don't for the win. The Ashtroll, OTOH, is probably genuinely ignorant.. So let's give them a definition:
> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > vanity press: a publishing house that publishes books at the author's expense
> > > >> > > > > > > >> called also vanity publisher
> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > AYoS is a vanity publication, because the writers give the publisher the
> > > >> > > > > > > >text and art, and then pay him for copies of their books. Your /SP/ was not.
> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > Perhaps I should explain my reasoning for judging them similarly.
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I don’t see that there is any public need or demand for either work,
> > > >> > > > > > > > > thusly neither publication would exist but for the vanity of the people
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > involved in its publishing.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Okay, fair enough judgement, and can apply to poetry in general, in these modern times.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > You can apply your judgment as generally as you’d like. I prefer specificity.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Yet you rarely answer specific questions.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > There is both a public need and demand for poetry “in these modern times”,
> > > >> > > > > > > > > Can you give some examples?
> > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > Be specific.
> > > >> > > > > > > > Sure, but not under duress. When you can respond
> > > >> > > > > > > > to me without dishonestly post-editing my previous
> > > >> > > > > > > > comments, I’ll be happy to help you in any way I can.
> > > >> > > > > > > Okay, thanks, and have a nice day.
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Likewise, I’m sure.
> > > >> > > > > Great, something we can agree on.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Wrong answer
> > > >> > > Likewise, I'm sure.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Donkey do duly noted.
> > > >> Childish name-calling from Corey duly noted.
> > > > Donkey do is xxxxx xxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > Like I said.
> > >
> >
> > Donkey do noted, again.
> Corey's childish name-calling noted again.
>
> 🙂

Yay.

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You call Michael a "shit slinging monkey" every time you mention him, Will....

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by: Spam-I-Am - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 20:01 UTC

On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 2:45:21 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 2:41:06 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 2:15:24 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 12:47:26 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > >> > Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>> I mean things like Pendragon's vanity poetry project, since you really don't seem to understand...
> > > > >> > >> > > >> >>>>>> Dance and Dockery have the same problem
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >>>>> No, not at all the same as such ego trips as Sunday Sampler and AYOS... you should know better than that, Corey......
> > > > >> > > > > > > >> >>>> Not the same to you, because you’re blinded by friendship
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> No, it simply isn't the same thing, Corey.....
> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> >> Whatever you say.
> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > You don't know the difference?
> > > > >> > > > > >> I suspect Corey may know, and just be hoping you don't for the win. The Ashtroll, OTOH, is probably genuinely ignorant.. So let's give them a definition:
> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > vanity press: a publishing house that publishes books at the author's expense
> > > > >> > > > > > > >> called also vanity publisher
> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > AYoS is a vanity publication, because the writers give the publisher the
> > > > >> > > > > > > >text and art, and then pay him for copies of their books. Your /SP/ was not.
> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > Perhaps I should explain my reasoning for judging them similarly.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don’t see that there is any public need or demand for either work,
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > thusly neither publication would exist but for the vanity of the people
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > involved in its publishing.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Okay, fair enough judgement, and can apply to poetry in general, in these modern times.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > You can apply your judgment as generally as you’d like. I prefer specificity.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Yet you rarely answer specific questions.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > There is both a public need and demand for poetry “in these modern times”,
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > Can you give some examples?
> > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > Be specific.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > Sure, but not under duress. When you can respond
> > > > >> > > > > > > > to me without dishonestly post-editing my previous
> > > > >> > > > > > > > comments, I’ll be happy to help you in any way I can.
> > > > >> > > > > > > Okay, thanks, and have a nice day.
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > Likewise, I’m sure.
> > > > >> > > > > Great, something we can agree on.
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > Wrong answer
> > > > >> > > Likewise, I'm sure.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Donkey do duly noted.
> > > > >> Childish name-calling from Corey duly noted.
> > > > > Donkey do is xxxxx xxxxxxxx
> > > >
> > > > Like I said.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Donkey do noted, again.
> > Corey's childish name-calling noted again.
> >
> > 🙂
> Yay.

Exactly. So, if you have any interest in courteous discourse,
then every attempt you make to control your post-editing habit
will be met with equal restraint in regard to childish name-calling.

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by: Spam-I-Am - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 20:06 UTC

On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 2:58:06 PM UTC-5, rjbur...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 2:41:06 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 2:15:24 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 12:47:26 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >> Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > >> > Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>> I mean things like Pendragon's vanity poetry project, since you really don't seem to understand...
> > > > >> > >> > > >> >>>>>> Dance and Dockery have the same problem
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >>>>> No, not at all the same as such ego trips as Sunday Sampler and AYOS... you should know better than that, Corey......
> > > > >> > > > > > > >> >>>> Not the same to you, because you’re blinded by friendship
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> No, it simply isn't the same thing, Corey.....
> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> >> Whatever you say.
> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > You don't know the difference?
> > > > >> > > > > >> I suspect Corey may know, and just be hoping you don't for the win. The Ashtroll, OTOH, is probably genuinely ignorant.. So let's give them a definition:
> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > vanity press: a publishing house that publishes books at the author's expense
> > > > >> > > > > > > >> called also vanity publisher
> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > AYoS is a vanity publication, because the writers give the publisher the
> > > > >> > > > > > > >text and art, and then pay him for copies of their books. Your /SP/ was not.
> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > Perhaps I should explain my reasoning for judging them similarly.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don’t see that there is any public need or demand for either work,
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > thusly neither publication would exist but for the vanity of the people
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > involved in its publishing.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Okay, fair enough judgement, and can apply to poetry in general, in these modern times.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > You can apply your judgment as generally as you’d like. I prefer specificity.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Yet you rarely answer specific questions.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > There is both a public need and demand for poetry “in these modern times”,
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > Can you give some examples?
> > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > Be specific.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > Sure, but not under duress. When you can respond
> > > > >> > > > > > > > to me without dishonestly post-editing my previous
> > > > >> > > > > > > > comments, I’ll be happy to help you in any way I can.
> > > > >> > > > > > > Okay, thanks, and have a nice day.
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > Likewise, I’m sure.
> > > > >> > > > > Great, something we can agree on.
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > Wrong answer
> > > > >> > > Likewise, I'm sure.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Donkey do duly noted.
> > > > >> Childish name-calling from Corey duly noted.
> > > > > Donkey do is xxxxx xxxxxxxx
> > > >
> > > > Like I said.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Donkey do noted, again.
> > Corey's childish name-calling noted again.
> >
> > 🙂
> You call Michael a "shit slinging monkey" every time you mention him, Will...

“Shit slinging monkey” is adult name-calling. “Donkey do“ is childish name-calling. See the difference?

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by: General-Zod - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 20:20 UTC

Robert Burrows wrote:
>
> You call Michael a "shit slinging monkey" every time you mention him, Will....

And check the archives to see who began his tit for tat... you will find it was Pen aka Voodoo Boy, himself...!

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by: Zod - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 20:24 UTC

On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 12:48:59 AM UTC-5, George Dance wrote:
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> I suspect Corey may know, and just be hoping you don't for the win. The
> Ashtroll, OTOH, is probably genuinely ignorant. So let's give them a
> definition:
>
> vanity press
> : a publishing house that publishes books at the author's expense
> called also vanity publisher
>
> AYoS is a vanity publication, because the writers give the publisher the
> text and art, and then pay him for copies of their books. Your /SP/ was
> not.

Well put, G.D.... there is a major difference between those two poetry books....

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by: W-Dockery - Sun, 4 Dec 2022 06:09 UTC

Zod wrote:

> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 12:48:59 AM UTC-5, George Dance wrote:
>>
>> I suspect Corey may know, and just be hoping you don't for the win. The
>> Ashtroll, OTOH, is probably genuinely ignorant. So let's give them a
>> definition:
>>
>> vanity press
>> : a publishing house that publishes books at the author's expense
>> called also vanity publisher
>>
>> AYoS is a vanity publication, because the writers give the publisher the
>> text and art, and then pay him for copies of their books. Your /SP/ was
>> not.

> Well put, G.D.... there is a major difference between those two poetry books....

Big differences.

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