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* The Ladder of St. AugustineMack A. Damia
+* Re: The Ladder of St. AugustineMichael Pendragon
|+* Re: The Ladder of St. AugustineNancyGene
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|| `* Re: The Ladder of St. AugustineGeorge J. Dance
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|`* Re: The Ladder of St. AugustineMack A. Damia
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+- Re: The Ladder of St. AugustineWill Dockery
+* Re: The Ladder of St. AugustineGeorge J. Dance
|+- Re: The Ladder of St. AugustineMichael Pendragon
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Re: The Ladder of St. Augustine

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 by: Will Dockery - Sat, 12 Nov 2022 19:22 UTC

Mack A. Damia wrote:

> On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 08:59:39 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> <michaelmaleficapendragon@gmail.com> wrote:

>>On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:48:08 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>>> On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 10:14:51 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
>>> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 1:09:19 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>
>>> >> "The Ladder of St. Augustine"
>>> >> - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
>>> >>
>>> >> "The heights by great men reached and kept
>>> >> Were not attained by sudden flight,
>>> >> But they, while their companions slept,
>>> >> Were toiling upward in the night."
>>> >
>>> >Hi Mack.
>>> >
>>> >Please see 8) in our Guidelines, below:
>>> >
>>> >AAPC OFFICIAL GUIDELINES & FAQS
>>> Please feel free to kill file me, but your group is too undisciplined
>>> to have rules. What percentage of the group's posts are flames? This
>>> is why I haven't been here too much. You need to crack down on
>>> trouble makers.
>>
>>Unfortunately, you are choosing to make yourself one of the troublemakers.

> Then you will miss what I have to offer, won't you?

> I mentioned to another group that I post what makes me feel good. I
> avoid flaming, and that is to say you can take it or leave it.

> Yes, I should have posted a link to the entire poem, but that verse
> has always jumped out for me.

Again, welcome to the group, and post however you see fit, Mack.

HTH and HAND.

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 by: Spam-I-Am - Sat, 12 Nov 2022 19:34 UTC

On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 2:22:22 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Mack A. Damia wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 08:59:39 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> > <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:48:08 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 10:14:51 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> >>> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 1:09:19 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >
> >>> >> "The Ladder of St. Augustine"
> >>> >> - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
> >>> >>
> >>> >> "The heights by great men reached and kept
> >>> >> Were not attained by sudden flight,
> >>> >> But they, while their companions slept,
> >>> >> Were toiling upward in the night."
> >>> >
> >>> >Hi Mack.
> >>> >
> >>> >Please see 8) in our Guidelines, below:
> >>> >
> >>> >AAPC OFFICIAL GUIDELINES & FAQS
> >>> Please feel free to kill file me, but your group is too undisciplined
> >>> to have rules. What percentage of the group's posts are flames? This
> >>> is why I haven't been here too much. You need to crack down on
> >>> trouble makers.
> >>
> >>Unfortunately, you are choosing to make yourself one of the troublemakers.
> > Then you will miss what I have to offer, won't you?
>
> > I mentioned to another group that I post what makes me feel good. I
> > avoid flaming, and that is to say you can take it or leave it.
>
> > Yes, I should have posted a link to the entire poem, but that verse
> > has always jumped out for me.
> Again, welcome to the group, and post however you see fit, Mack.
>
> HTH and HAND.

As long as he doesn’t post lies and misrepresentations you mean.

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 by: Will Dockery - Sat, 12 Nov 2022 19:44 UTC

On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 2:34:33 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 2:22:22 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 08:59:39 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> > > <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >>On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:48:08 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > >>> On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 10:14:51 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> > >>> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> >On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 1:09:19 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > >
> > >>> >> "The Ladder of St. Augustine"
> > >>> >> - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> "The heights by great men reached and kept
> > >>> >> Were not attained by sudden flight,
> > >>> >> But they, while their companions slept,
> > >>> >> Were toiling upward in the night."
> > >>> >
> > >>> >Hi Mack.
> > >>> >
> > >>> >Please see 8) in our Guidelines, below:
> > >>> >
> > >>> >AAPC OFFICIAL GUIDELINES & FAQS
> > >>> Please feel free to kill file me, but your group is too undisciplined
> > >>> to have rules. What percentage of the group's posts are flames? This
> > >>> is why I haven't been here too much. You need to crack down on
> > >>> trouble makers.
> > >>
> > >>Unfortunately, you are choosing to make yourself one of the troublemakers.
> > > Then you will miss what I have to offer, won't you?
> >
> > > I mentioned to another group that I post what makes me feel good. I
> > > avoid flaming, and that is to say you can take it or leave it.
> >
> > > Yes, I should have posted a link to the entire poem, but that verse
> > > has always jumped out for me.
> > Again, welcome to the group, and post however you see fit, Mack.
> >
> > HTH and HAND.
> As long as he doesn’t post lies and misrepresentations you mean.

Yes, in taking about poetry related content.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Sat, 12 Nov 2022 20:32 UTC

On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 1:19:21 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 08:59:39 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:48:08 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 10:14:51 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> >> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 1:09:19 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> >> "The Ladder of St. Augustine"
> >> >> - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
> >> >>
> >> >> "The heights by great men reached and kept
> >> >> Were not attained by sudden flight,
> >> >> But they, while their companions slept,
> >> >> Were toiling upward in the night."
> >> >
> >> >Hi Mack.
> >> >
> >> >Please see 8) in our Guidelines, below:
> >> >
> >> >AAPC OFFICIAL GUIDELINES & FAQS
> >> Please feel free to kill file me, but your group is too undisciplined
> >> to have rules. What percentage of the group's posts are flames? This
> >> is why I haven't been here too much. You need to crack down on
> >> trouble makers.
> >
> >Unfortunately, you are choosing to make yourself one of the troublemakers.
> Then you will miss what I have to offer, won't you?

Unfortunately, one cannot miss posts. One can only block them after the fact.
> I mentioned to another group that I post what makes me feel good. I
> avoid flaming, and that is to say you can take it or leave it.

This is a *discussion* group. If you want to post poetry by well known authors, you should do so at rec.arts.poems. That is what that group was created for.

If you continue to post such poetry here without comments, you *are* flaming the group -- and shall be treated like a troll for doing so.

Your choice.

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 by: General-Zod - Sat, 12 Nov 2022 20:42 UTC

George J. Dance wrote:

> On 2022-11-12 11:57 a.m., Mack A. Damia wrote:

> <snip>

>> I posted this yesterday in another place in remembrance of
>> Armistice/Veteran's Day . One of my favorite poems, too.
>>
>> It was composed for Queen Victoria's Diamond Jubilee, in 1897.
>>
>> "Recessional"
>> BY RUDYARD KIPLING
>> 1897
>>
>> God of our fathers, known of old,
>> Lord of our far-flung battle-line,
>> Beneath whose awful Hand we hold
>> Dominion over palm and pine—
>> Lord God of Hosts, be with us yet,
>> Lest we forget—lest we forget!
>>
>> The tumult and the shouting dies;
>> The Captains and the Kings depart:
>> Still stands Thine ancient sacrifice,
>> An humble and a contrite heart.
>> Lord God of Hosts, be with us yet,
>> Lest we forget—lest we forget!
>>
>> Far-called, our navies melt away;
>> On dune and headland sinks the fire:
>> Lo, all our pomp of yesterday
>> Is one with Nineveh and Tyre!
>> Judge of the Nations, spare us yet,
>> Lest we forget—lest we forget!
>>
>> If, drunk with sight of power, we loose
>> Wild tongues that have not Thee in awe,
>> Such boastings as the Gentiles use,
>> Or lesser breeds without the Law—
>> Lord God of Hosts, be with us yet,
>> Lest we forget—lest we forget!
>>
>> For heathen heart that puts her trust
>> In reeking tube and iron shard,
>> All valiant dust that builds on dust,
>> And guarding, calls not Thee to guard,
>> For frantic boast and foolish word—
>> Thy mercy on Thy People, Lord!

> An excellent poem by an excellent author. The only problem is that,
> being buried in the thread, it could be missed. So I'll suggest that you
> top-post poems like this in the future, so that they don't get missed.

> I'd also welcome you to post your favorite poems to rec.arts.poems.

> Those are both suggestions, not "GLs".

Quite correct...

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 by: Spam-I-Am - Sat, 12 Nov 2022 20:40 UTC

On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 3:32:32 PM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 1:19:21 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 08:59:39 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> > <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:48:08 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > >> On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 10:14:51 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> > >> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 1:09:19 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > >> >> "The Ladder of St. Augustine"
> > >> >> - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
> > >> >>
> > >> >> "The heights by great men reached and kept
> > >> >> Were not attained by sudden flight,
> > >> >> But they, while their companions slept,
> > >> >> Were toiling upward in the night."
> > >> >
> > >> >Hi Mack.
> > >> >
> > >> >Please see 8) in our Guidelines, below:
> > >> >
> > >> >AAPC OFFICIAL GUIDELINES & FAQS
> > >> Please feel free to kill file me, but your group is too undisciplined
> > >> to have rules. What percentage of the group's posts are flames? This
> > >> is why I haven't been here too much. You need to crack down on
> > >> trouble makers.
> > >
> > >Unfortunately, you are choosing to make yourself one of the troublemakers.
> > Then you will miss what I have to offer, won't you?
> Unfortunately, one cannot miss posts. One can only block them after the fact.
> > I mentioned to another group that I post what makes me feel good. I
> > avoid flaming, and that is to say you can take it or leave it.
> This is a *discussion* group. If you want to post poetry by well known authors, you should do so at rec.arts.poems. That is what that group was created for.
>
> If you continue to post such poetry here without comments, you *are* flaming the group -- and shall be treated like a troll for doing so.
>
> Your choice.

Ultimatum much, Michael? Sheesh. Don’t be a dick.

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 by: Spam-I-Am - Sat, 12 Nov 2022 20:42 UTC

On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 2:44:44 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 2:34:33 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 2:22:22 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 08:59:39 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> > > > <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >>On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:48:08 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > > >>> On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 10:14:51 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> > > >>> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> >On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 1:09:19 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>> >> "The Ladder of St. Augustine"
> > > >>> >> - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
> > > >>> >>
> > > >>> >> "The heights by great men reached and kept
> > > >>> >> Were not attained by sudden flight,
> > > >>> >> But they, while their companions slept,
> > > >>> >> Were toiling upward in the night."
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >Hi Mack.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >Please see 8) in our Guidelines, below:
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >AAPC OFFICIAL GUIDELINES & FAQS
> > > >>> Please feel free to kill file me, but your group is too undisciplined
> > > >>> to have rules. What percentage of the group's posts are flames? This
> > > >>> is why I haven't been here too much. You need to crack down on
> > > >>> trouble makers.
> > > >>
> > > >>Unfortunately, you are choosing to make yourself one of the troublemakers.
> > > > Then you will miss what I have to offer, won't you?
> > >
> > > > I mentioned to another group that I post what makes me feel good. I
> > > > avoid flaming, and that is to say you can take it or leave it.
> > >
> > > > Yes, I should have posted a link to the entire poem, but that verse
> > > > has always jumped out for me.
> > > Again, welcome to the group, and post however you see fit, Mack.
> > >
> > > HTH and HAND.
> > As long as he doesn’t post lies and misrepresentations you mean..
> Yes, in taking about poetry related content.

You just said he could post whatever he sees fit,
and now you’re saying it has to be about poetry
related content. Make up his fucking mind.

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 by: Zod - Sat, 12 Nov 2022 21:13 UTC

On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 1:12:03 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 12:37:41 -0500, "George J. Dance"
> <george...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
> >On 2022-11-10 1:09 p.m., Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >>
> >> "The Ladder of St. Augustine"
> >> - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
> >>
> >> "The heights by great men reached and kept
> >> Were not attained by sudden flight,
> >> But they, while their companions slept,
> >> Were toiling upward in the night."
> >>
> >
> >Looks like a Longfellow poem I haven't read, and one worth reading.
> >
> >I'll go look for it, but I'd ask you to give me a link next time.
> >
> >That's not a "GL" either, just a suggestion.
> It was a verse that struck me and has stayed with me for many decades
> (since the 1980s). Yes, I should have posted a link to the entire
> poem.

Hello Mack, cool....

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On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 12:32:31 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
<michaelmaleficapendragon@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 1:19:21 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 08:59:39 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
>> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:48:08 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 10:14:51 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
>> >> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 1:09:19 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> >> >> "The Ladder of St. Augustine"
>> >> >> - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "The heights by great men reached and kept
>> >> >> Were not attained by sudden flight,
>> >> >> But they, while their companions slept,
>> >> >> Were toiling upward in the night."
>> >> >
>> >> >Hi Mack.
>> >> >
>> >> >Please see 8) in our Guidelines, below:
>> >> >
>> >> >AAPC OFFICIAL GUIDELINES & FAQS
>> >> Please feel free to kill file me, but your group is too undisciplined
>> >> to have rules. What percentage of the group's posts are flames? This
>> >> is why I haven't been here too much. You need to crack down on
>> >> trouble makers.
>> >
>> >Unfortunately, you are choosing to make yourself one of the troublemakers.
>> Then you will miss what I have to offer, won't you?
>
>Unfortunately, one cannot miss posts. One can only block them after the fact.
>
>> I mentioned to another group that I post what makes me feel good. I
>> avoid flaming, and that is to say you can take it or leave it.
>
>This is a *discussion* group. If you want to post poetry by well known authors, you should do so at rec.arts.poems. That is what that group was created for.
>
>If you continue to post such poetry here without comments, you *are* flaming the group -- and shall be treated like a troll for doing so.
>
>Your choice.

How many posts in this group get 29 replies? Granted, a few of the
posts are mine.

You will miss the train because you are arguing with the tricket
master (for this thread). Open your eyes, ears and most of all your
mind.

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On 2022-11-12 2:44 p.m., Will Dockery wrote:
> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 2:34:33 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
>> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 2:22:22 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>>> Mack A. Damia wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 08:59:39 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
>>>> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:48:08 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 10:14:51 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
>>>>>> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 1:09:19 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> "The Ladder of St. Augustine"
>>>>>>>> - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "The heights by great men reached and kept
>>>>>>>> Were not attained by sudden flight,
>>>>>>>> But they, while their companions slept,
>>>>>>>> Were toiling upward in the night."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Mack.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please see 8) in our Guidelines, below:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AAPC OFFICIAL GUIDELINES & FAQS
>>>>>> Please feel free to kill file me, but your group is too undisciplined
>>>>>> to have rules. What percentage of the group's posts are flames? This
>>>>>> is why I haven't been here too much. You need to crack down on
>>>>>> trouble makers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately, you are choosing to make yourself one of the troublemakers.
>>>> Then you will miss what I have to offer, won't you?
>>>
>>>> I mentioned to another group that I post what makes me feel good. I
>>>> avoid flaming, and that is to say you can take it or leave it.
>>>
>>>> Yes, I should have posted a link to the entire poem, but that verse
>>>> has always jumped out for me.
>>> Again, welcome to the group, and post however you see fit, Mack.
>>>
>>> HTH and HAND.
>>>
>> As long as he doesn’t post lies and misrepresentations you mean.
>
> Yes, in taking about poetry related content.
>

You were thinking and speaking of poetry-related content, Will, but your
first statement was correct.

aapc is an alt.* usenet, group, and the one explicit rule of the alt.*
hierarchy is that people were free to post whatever they wanted in them.
They're organized into groups, but despite the name of a group, any
person A can post as he sees fit in it.

If another person B thinks that A is posting lies and misinformation, B
can in turn post about that as B sees fit.

If

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On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 4:22:50 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-11-12 2:44 p.m., Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 2:34:33 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> >> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 2:22:22 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >>> Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 08:59:39 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> >>>> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:48:08 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >>>>>> On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 10:14:51 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> >>>>>> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 1:09:19 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> "The Ladder of St. Augustine"
> >>>>>>>> - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "The heights by great men reached and kept
> >>>>>>>> Were not attained by sudden flight,
> >>>>>>>> But they, while their companions slept,
> >>>>>>>> Were toiling upward in the night."
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Mack.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Please see 8) in our Guidelines, below:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> AAPC OFFICIAL GUIDELINES & FAQS
> >>>>>> Please feel free to kill file me, but your group is too undisciplined
> >>>>>> to have rules. What percentage of the group's posts are flames? This
> >>>>>> is why I haven't been here too much. You need to crack down on
> >>>>>> trouble makers.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Unfortunately, you are choosing to make yourself one of the troublemakers.
> >>>> Then you will miss what I have to offer, won't you?
> >>>
> >>>> I mentioned to another group that I post what makes me feel good. I
> >>>> avoid flaming, and that is to say you can take it or leave it.
> >>>
> >>>> Yes, I should have posted a link to the entire poem, but that verse
> >>>> has always jumped out for me.
> >>> Again, welcome to the group, and post however you see fit, Mack.
> >>>
> >>> HTH and HAND.
> >>>
> >> As long as he doesn’t post lies and misrepresentations you mean.
> >
> > Yes, in taking about poetry related content.
> >
> You were thinking and speaking of poetry-related content, Will, but your
> first statement was correct.
>
> aapc is an alt.* usenet, group, and the one explicit rule of the alt.*
> hierarchy is that people were free to post whatever they wanted in them.
> They're organized into groups, but despite the name of a group, any
> person A can post as he sees fit in it.
>
> If another person B thinks that A is posting lies and misinformation, B
> can in turn post about that as B sees fit.

You are quite correct G.D.... I daresay you have nailed it....

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On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 4:19:21 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 12:32:31 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 1:19:21 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 08:59:39 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> >> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:48:08 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> >> On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 10:14:51 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> >> >> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 1:09:19 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> >> >> "The Ladder of St. Augustine"
> >> >> >> - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "The heights by great men reached and kept
> >> >> >> Were not attained by sudden flight,
> >> >> >> But they, while their companions slept,
> >> >> >> Were toiling upward in the night."
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Hi Mack.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Please see 8) in our Guidelines, below:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >AAPC OFFICIAL GUIDELINES & FAQS
> >> >> Please feel free to kill file me, but your group is too undisciplined
> >> >> to have rules. What percentage of the group's posts are flames? This
> >> >> is why I haven't been here too much. You need to crack down on
> >> >> trouble makers.
> >> >
> >> >Unfortunately, you are choosing to make yourself one of the troublemakers.
> >> Then you will miss what I have to offer, won't you?
> >
> >Unfortunately, one cannot miss posts. One can only block them after the fact.
> >
> >> I mentioned to another group that I post what makes me feel good. I
> >> avoid flaming, and that is to say you can take it or leave it.
> >
> >This is a *discussion* group. If you want to post poetry by well known authors, you should do so at rec.arts.poems. That is what that group was created for.
> >
> >If you continue to post such poetry here without comments, you *are* flaming the group -- and shall be treated like a troll for doing so.
> >
> >Your choice.
> How many posts in this group get 29 replies? Granted, a few of the
> posts are mine.
>
> You will miss the train because you are arguing with the tricket
> master (for this thread). Open your eyes, ears and most of all your
> mind.

When you first arrived here, many voiced their suspicions that you were just another troll. I'm sorry to see that you've proven them correct.

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On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 4:22:50 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-11-12 2:44 p.m., Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 2:34:33 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> >> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 2:22:22 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >>> Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 08:59:39 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> >>>> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:48:08 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >>>>>> On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 10:14:51 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> >>>>>> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 1:09:19 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> "The Ladder of St. Augustine"
> >>>>>>>> - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "The heights by great men reached and kept
> >>>>>>>> Were not attained by sudden flight,
> >>>>>>>> But they, while their companions slept,
> >>>>>>>> Were toiling upward in the night."
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Mack.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Please see 8) in our Guidelines, below:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> AAPC OFFICIAL GUIDELINES & FAQS
> >>>>>> Please feel free to kill file me, but your group is too undisciplined
> >>>>>> to have rules. What percentage of the group's posts are flames? This
> >>>>>> is why I haven't been here too much. You need to crack down on
> >>>>>> trouble makers.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Unfortunately, you are choosing to make yourself one of the troublemakers.
> >>>> Then you will miss what I have to offer, won't you?
> >>>
> >>>> I mentioned to another group that I post what makes me feel good. I
> >>>> avoid flaming, and that is to say you can take it or leave it.
> >>>
> >>>> Yes, I should have posted a link to the entire poem, but that verse
> >>>> has always jumped out for me.
> >>> Again, welcome to the group, and post however you see fit, Mack.
> >>>
> >>> HTH and HAND.
> >>>
> >> As long as he doesn’t post lies and misrepresentations you mean.
> >
> > Yes, in taking about poetry related content.
> >
> You were thinking and speaking of poetry-related content, Will, but your
> first statement was correct.
>
> aapc is an alt.* usenet, group, and the one explicit rule of the alt.*
> hierarchy is that people were free to post whatever they wanted in them.
> They're organized into groups, but despite the name of a group, any
> person A can post as he sees fit in it.
>
> If another person B thinks that A is posting lies and misinformation, B
> can in turn post about that as B sees fit.

That is true, George.

And if person, or persons B, decide to make person A's time here extremely unpleasant, they have the right to do so as well.

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On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 4:55:37 PM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 4:19:21 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 12:32:31 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> > <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 1:19:21 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > >> On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 08:59:39 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> > >> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:48:08 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > >> >> On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 10:14:51 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> > >> >> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 1:09:19 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > >> >> >> "The Ladder of St. Augustine"
> > >> >> >> - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> "The heights by great men reached and kept
> > >> >> >> Were not attained by sudden flight,
> > >> >> >> But they, while their companions slept,
> > >> >> >> Were toiling upward in the night."
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Hi Mack.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Please see 8) in our Guidelines, below:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >AAPC OFFICIAL GUIDELINES & FAQS
> > >> >> Please feel free to kill file me, but your group is too undisciplined
> > >> >> to have rules. What percentage of the group's posts are flames? This
> > >> >> is why I haven't been here too much. You need to crack down on
> > >> >> trouble makers.
> > >> >
> > >> >Unfortunately, you are choosing to make yourself one of the troublemakers.
> > >> Then you will miss what I have to offer, won't you?
> > >
> > >Unfortunately, one cannot miss posts. One can only block them after the fact.
> > >
> > >> I mentioned to another group that I post what makes me feel good. I
> > >> avoid flaming, and that is to say you can take it or leave it.
> > >
> > >This is a *discussion* group. If you want to post poetry by well known authors, you should do so at rec.arts.poems. That is what that group was created for.
> > >
> > >If you continue to post such poetry here without comments, you *are* flaming the group -- and shall be treated like a troll for doing so.
> > >
> > >Your choice.
> > How many posts in this group get 29 replies? Granted, a few of the
> > posts are mine.
> >
> > You will miss the train because you are arguing with the tricket
> > master (for this thread). Open your eyes, ears and most of all your
> > mind.
> When you first arrived here, many voiced their suspicions

You mean you and your fellow monkey boys, Pen... ha ha.

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On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:48:08 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 10:14:51 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 1:09:19 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>
> >> "The Ladder of St. Augustine"
> >> - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
> >>
> >> "The heights by great men reached and kept
> >> Were not attained by sudden flight,
> >> But they, while their companions slept,
> >> Were toiling upward in the night."
> >
> >Hi Mack.
> >
> >Please see 8) in our Guidelines, below:
> >
> >AAPC OFFICIAL GUIDELINES & FAQS
> Please feel free to kill file me, but your group is too undisciplined
> to have rules. What percentage of the group's posts are flames? This
> is why I haven't been here too much. You need to crack down on
> trouble makers.
>
> I see a poem or a verse that might interest some, and I post it. You
> can take it whatever way you want to. Use you imagination.
>
> This verse happens to be the essence of the poem. Easy enough to
> Google and find the rest. The verse is one of my favorites. I taught
> at St. Augustine's College in Nassau, Bahamas.
>
> Love and Peace!~

Mack, here's a quote from George Dance, in which he describes exactly the way Michael Pendragon wants to play here:

"I think the biggest lie is that there is a 'cease-fire'. As you know, Pendragon hasn't stopped fighting; he's merely decided to concentrate his fighting with one target only. He's explained it: "> If everyone in AAPC fights with Will, then Will comes across as either a troll, or (at best) someone who doesn't fit in with the rest of the group. OTOH, if the majority of AAPC members attack Will, Rachel, Zod, GD, Jordy's Creepy Uncle, PJR, Ilya, and others, Will can pretend that he and his "friends" are being unfairly attacked/trolled by a group of cyberbullies." IOW, if a gang of bullies tries attacking a bunch of kids, they'll look like a gang of bullies; but if they just attack one person, it'll look like that one person's fault." -George Dance

https://news.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=169605&group=alt.arts..poetry.comments#169605

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Sat, 12 Nov 2022 22:40 UTC

On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 5:21:46 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:48:08 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 10:14:51 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> > <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 1:09:19 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >
> > >> "The Ladder of St. Augustine"
> > >> - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
> > >>
> > >> "The heights by great men reached and kept
> > >> Were not attained by sudden flight,
> > >> But they, while their companions slept,
> > >> Were toiling upward in the night."
> > >
> > >Hi Mack.
> > >
> > >Please see 8) in our Guidelines, below:
> > >
> > >AAPC OFFICIAL GUIDELINES & FAQS
> > Please feel free to kill file me, but your group is too undisciplined
> > to have rules. What percentage of the group's posts are flames? This
> > is why I haven't been here too much. You need to crack down on
> > trouble makers.
> >
> > I see a poem or a verse that might interest some, and I post it. You
> > can take it whatever way you want to. Use you imagination.
> >
> > This verse happens to be the essence of the poem. Easy enough to
> > Google and find the rest. The verse is one of my favorites. I taught
> > at St. Augustine's College in Nassau, Bahamas.
> >
> > Love and Peace!~
> Mack, here's a quote from George Dance, in which he describes exactly the way Michael Pendragon wants to play here:
>
> "I think the biggest lie is that there is a 'cease-fire'. As you know, Pendragon hasn't stopped fighting; he's merely decided to concentrate his fighting with one target only. He's explained it: "> If everyone in AAPC fights with Will, then Will comes across as either a troll, or (at best) someone who doesn't fit in with the rest of the group. OTOH, if the majority of AAPC members attack Will, Rachel, Zod, GD, Jordy's Creepy Uncle, PJR, Ilya, and others, Will can pretend that he and his "friends" are being unfairly attacked/trolled by a group of cyberbullies." IOW, if a gang of bullies tries attacking a bunch of kids, they'll look like a gang of bullies; but if they just attack one person, it'll look like that one person's fault." -George Dance
>
> https://news.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=169605&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments#169605

In which case you should be delighted to have Mack in the crosshairs beside you.

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 by: NancyGene - Sat, 12 Nov 2022 23:03 UTC

On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 10:40:52 PM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 5:21:46 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:48:08 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > > On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 10:14:51 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> > > <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 1:09:19 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > >
> > > >> "The Ladder of St. Augustine"
> > > >> - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
> > > >>
> > > >> "The heights by great men reached and kept
> > > >> Were not attained by sudden flight,
> > > >> But they, while their companions slept,
> > > >> Were toiling upward in the night."
> > > >
> > > >Hi Mack.
> > > >
> > > >Please see 8) in our Guidelines, below:
> > > >
> > > >AAPC OFFICIAL GUIDELINES & FAQS
> > > Please feel free to kill file me, but your group is too undisciplined
> > > to have rules. What percentage of the group's posts are flames? This
> > > is why I haven't been here too much. You need to crack down on
> > > trouble makers.
> > >
> > > I see a poem or a verse that might interest some, and I post it. You
> > > can take it whatever way you want to. Use you imagination.
> > >
> > > This verse happens to be the essence of the poem. Easy enough to
> > > Google and find the rest. The verse is one of my favorites. I taught
> > > at St. Augustine's College in Nassau, Bahamas.
> > >
> > > Love and Peace!~
> > Mack, here's a quote from George Dance, in which he describes exactly the way Michael Pendragon wants to play here:
> >
> > "I think the biggest lie is that there is a 'cease-fire'. As you know, Pendragon hasn't stopped fighting; he's merely decided to concentrate his fighting with one target only. He's explained it: "> If everyone in AAPC fights with Will, then Will comes across as either a troll, or (at best) someone who doesn't fit in with the rest of the group. OTOH, if the majority of AAPC members attack Will, Rachel, Zod, GD, Jordy's Creepy Uncle, PJR, Ilya, and others, Will can pretend that he and his "friends" are being unfairly attacked/trolled by a group of cyberbullies." IOW, if a gang of bullies tries attacking a bunch of kids, they'll look like a gang of bullies; but if they just attack one person, it'll look like that one person's fault." -George Dance
> >
> > https://news.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=169605&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments#169605
> In which case you should be delighted to have Mack in the crosshairs beside you.

We think that another nut has been cracked.

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 by: W.Dockery - Sun, 13 Nov 2022 00:53 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 5:21:46 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:48:08 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> > On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 10:14:51 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
>> > <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 1:09:19 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> >
>> > >> "The Ladder of St. Augustine"
>> > >> - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
>> > >>
>> > >> "The heights by great men reached and kept
>> > >> Were not attained by sudden flight,
>> > >> But they, while their companions slept,
>> > >> Were toiling upward in the night."
>> > >
>> > >Hi Mack.
>> > >
>> > >Please see 8) in our Guidelines, below:
>> > >
>> > >AAPC OFFICIAL GUIDELINES & FAQS
>> > Please feel free to kill file me, but your group is too undisciplined
>> > to have rules. What percentage of the group's posts are flames? This
>> > is why I haven't been here too much. You need to crack down on
>> > trouble makers.
>> >
>> > I see a poem or a verse that might interest some, and I post it. You
>> > can take it whatever way you want to. Use you imagination.
>> >
>> > This verse happens to be the essence of the poem. Easy enough to
>> > Google and find the rest. The verse is one of my favorites. I taught
>> > at St. Augustine's College in Nassau, Bahamas.
>> >
>> > Love and Peace!~
>> Mack, here's a quote from George Dance, in which he describes exactly the way Michael Pendragon wants to play here:
>>
>> "I think the biggest lie is that there is a 'cease-fire'. As you know, Pendragon hasn't stopped fighting; he's merely decided to concentrate his fighting with one target only. He's explained it: "> If everyone in AAPC fights with Will, then Will comes across as either a troll, or (at best) someone who doesn't fit in with the rest of the group. OTOH, if the majority of AAPC members attack Will, Rachel, Zod, GD, Jordy's Creepy Uncle, PJR, Ilya, and others, Will can pretend that he and his "friends" are being unfairly attacked/trolled by a group of cyberbullies." IOW, if a gang of bullies tries attacking a bunch of kids, they'll look like a gang of bullies; but if they just attack one person, it'll look like that one person's fault." -George Dance
>>
>> https://news.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=169605&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments#169605

> In which case you should be delighted to have Mack in the crosshairs beside you.

It doesn't look like Mack has taken a side, actually.

HTH and HAND.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Sun, 13 Nov 2022 03:41 UTC

On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 9:32:36 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 5:21:46 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:48:08 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> > On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 10:14:51 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> >> > <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 1:09:19 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >> "The Ladder of St. Augustine"
> >> > >> - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
> >> > >>
> >> > >> "The heights by great men reached and kept
> >> > >> Were not attained by sudden flight,
> >> > >> But they, while their companions slept,
> >> > >> Were toiling upward in the night."
> >> > >
> >> > >Hi Mack.
> >> > >
> >> > >Please see 8) in our Guidelines, below:
> >> > >
> >> > >AAPC OFFICIAL GUIDELINES & FAQS
> >> > Please feel free to kill file me, but your group is too undisciplined
> >> > to have rules. What percentage of the group's posts are flames? This
> >> > is why I haven't been here too much. You need to crack down on
> >> > trouble makers.
> >> >
> >> > I see a poem or a verse that might interest some, and I post it. You
> >> > can take it whatever way you want to. Use you imagination.
> >> >
> >> > This verse happens to be the essence of the poem. Easy enough to
> >> > Google and find the rest. The verse is one of my favorites. I taught
> >> > at St. Augustine's College in Nassau, Bahamas.
> >> >
> >> > Love and Peace!~
> >> Mack, here's a quote from George Dance, in which he describes exactly the way Michael Pendragon wants to play here:
> >>
> >> "I think the biggest lie is that there is a 'cease-fire'. As you know, Pendragon hasn't stopped fighting; he's merely decided to concentrate his fighting with one target only. He's explained it: "> If everyone in AAPC fights with Will, then Will comes across as either a troll, or (at best) someone who doesn't fit in with the rest of the group. OTOH, if the majority of AAPC members attack Will, Rachel, Zod, GD, Jordy's Creepy Uncle, PJR, Ilya, and others, Will can pretend that he and his "friends" are being unfairly attacked/trolled by a group of cyberbullies." IOW, if a gang of bullies tries attacking a bunch of kids, they'll look like a gang of bullies; but if they just attack one person, it'll look like that one person's fault." -George Dance
> >>
> >> https://news.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=169605&group=alt..arts.poetry.comments#169605
>
> > In which case you should be delighted to have Mack in the crosshairs beside you.
> It doesn't look like Mack has taken a side, actually.

Mack has chosen to play the troll. Therefore he is on your "team" by default.

"Trolls of a feather..." as the old saying goes.

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 by: W.Dockery - Sun, 13 Nov 2022 07:07 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 9:32:36 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>
>> > On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 5:21:46 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:48:08 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> >> > On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 10:14:51 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
>> >> > <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > >On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 1:09:19 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > >> "The Ladder of St. Augustine"
>> >> > >> - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> "The heights by great men reached and kept
>> >> > >> Were not attained by sudden flight,
>> >> > >> But they, while their companions slept,
>> >> > >> Were toiling upward in the night."
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Hi Mack.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Please see 8) in our Guidelines, below:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >AAPC OFFICIAL GUIDELINES & FAQS
>> >> > Please feel free to kill file me, but your group is too undisciplined
>> >> > to have rules. What percentage of the group's posts are flames? This
>> >> > is why I haven't been here too much. You need to crack down on
>> >> > trouble makers.
>> >> >
>> >> > I see a poem or a verse that might interest some, and I post it. You
>> >> > can take it whatever way you want to. Use you imagination.
>> >> >
>> >> > This verse happens to be the essence of the poem. Easy enough to
>> >> > Google and find the rest. The verse is one of my favorites. I taught
>> >> > at St. Augustine's College in Nassau, Bahamas.
>> >> >
>> >> > Love and Peace!~
>> >> Mack, here's a quote from George Dance, in which he describes exactly the way Michael Pendragon wants to play here:
>> >>
>> >> "I think the biggest lie is that there is a 'cease-fire'. As you know, Pendragon hasn't stopped fighting; he's merely decided to concentrate his fighting with one target only. He's explained it: "> If everyone in AAPC fights with Will, then Will comes across as either a troll, or (at best) someone who doesn't fit in with the rest of the group. OTOH, if the majority of AAPC members attack Will, Rachel, Zod, GD, Jordy's Creepy Uncle, PJR, Ilya, and others, Will can pretend that he and his "friends" are being unfairly attacked/trolled by a group of cyberbullies." IOW, if a gang of bullies tries attacking a bunch of kids, they'll look like a gang of bullies; but if they just attack one person, it'll look like that one person's fault." -George Dance
>> >>
>> >> https://news.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=169605&group=alt..arts.poetry.comments#169605
>>
>> > In which case you should be delighted to have Mack in the crosshairs beside you.
>> It doesn't look like Mack has taken a side, actually.

> Mack has chosen to play the troll

Says Michael Pendragon, the biggest troll on the newsgroup.

HTH and HAND.

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 by: Will Dockery - Sun, 13 Nov 2022 07:17 UTC

On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 4:19:21 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 12:32:31 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 1:19:21 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 08:59:39 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> >> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:48:08 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> >> On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 10:14:51 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> >> >> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 1:09:19 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> >> >> "The Ladder of St. Augustine"
> >> >> >> - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "The heights by great men reached and kept
> >> >> >> Were not attained by sudden flight,
> >> >> >> But they, while their companions slept,
> >> >> >> Were toiling upward in the night."
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Hi Mack.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Please see 8) in our Guidelines, below:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >AAPC OFFICIAL GUIDELINES & FAQS
> >> >> Please feel free to kill file me, but your group is too undisciplined
> >> >> to have rules. What percentage of the group's posts are flames? This
> >> >> is why I haven't been here too much. You need to crack down on
> >> >> trouble makers.
> >> >
> >> >Unfortunately, you are choosing to make yourself one of the troublemakers.
> >> Then you will miss what I have to offer, won't you?
> >
> >Unfortunately, one cannot miss posts. One can only block them after the fact.
> >
> >> I mentioned to another group that I post what makes me feel good. I
> >> avoid flaming, and that is to say you can take it or leave it.
> >
> >This is a *discussion* group. If you want to post poetry by well known authors, you should do so at rec.arts.poems. That is what that group was created for.
> >
> >If you continue to post such poetry here without comments, you *are* flaming the group -- and shall be treated like a troll for doing so.
> >
> >Your choice.
> How many posts in this group get 29 replies? Granted, a few of the
> posts are mine.
>
> You will miss the train because you are arguing with the tricket
> master (for this thread). Open your eyes, ears and most of all your
> mind.

Well put.

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On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 2:17:22 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 4:19:21 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 12:32:31 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> > <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 1:19:21 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > >> On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 08:59:39 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> > >> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:48:08 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > >> >> On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 10:14:51 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> > >> >> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 1:09:19 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > >> >> >> "The Ladder of St. Augustine"
> > >> >> >> - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> "The heights by great men reached and kept
> > >> >> >> Were not attained by sudden flight,
> > >> >> >> But they, while their companions slept,
> > >> >> >> Were toiling upward in the night."
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Hi Mack.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Please see 8) in our Guidelines, below:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >AAPC OFFICIAL GUIDELINES & FAQS
> > >> >> Please feel free to kill file me, but your group is too undisciplined
> > >> >> to have rules. What percentage of the group's posts are flames? This
> > >> >> is why I haven't been here too much. You need to crack down on
> > >> >> trouble makers.
> > >> >
> > >> >Unfortunately, you are choosing to make yourself one of the troublemakers.
> > >> Then you will miss what I have to offer, won't you?
> > >
> > >Unfortunately, one cannot miss posts. One can only block them after the fact.
> > >
> > >> I mentioned to another group that I post what makes me feel good. I
> > >> avoid flaming, and that is to say you can take it or leave it.
> > >
> > >This is a *discussion* group. If you want to post poetry by well known authors, you should do so at rec.arts.poems. That is what that group was created for.
> > >
> > >If you continue to post such poetry here without comments, you *are* flaming the group -- and shall be treated like a troll for doing so.
> > >
> > >Your choice.
> > How many posts in this group get 29 replies? Granted, a few of the
> > posts are mine.
> >
> > You will miss the train because you are arguing with the tricket
> > master (for this thread). Open your eyes, ears and most of all your
> > mind.
> Well put.

What's "well put," Donkey? Apparently Mack's split brain failed to take all of your threads that have 100+ replies into account.

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On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 2:21:44 AM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 2:17:22 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 4:19:21 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > > On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 12:32:31 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> > > <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 1:19:21 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > > >> On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 08:59:39 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> > > >> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:48:08 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > > >> >> On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 10:14:51 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> > > >> >> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> >On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 1:09:19 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > > >> >> >> "The Ladder of St. Augustine"
> > > >> >> >> - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> "The heights by great men reached and kept
> > > >> >> >> Were not attained by sudden flight,
> > > >> >> >> But they, while their companions slept,
> > > >> >> >> Were toiling upward in the night."
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >Hi Mack.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >Please see 8) in our Guidelines, below:
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >AAPC OFFICIAL GUIDELINES & FAQS
> > > >> >> Please feel free to kill file me, but your group is too undisciplined
> > > >> >> to have rules. What percentage of the group's posts are flames? This
> > > >> >> is why I haven't been here too much. You need to crack down on
> > > >> >> trouble makers.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Unfortunately, you are choosing to make yourself one of the troublemakers.
> > > >> Then you will miss what I have to offer, won't you?
> > > >
> > > >Unfortunately, one cannot miss posts. One can only block them after the fact.
> > > >
> > > >> I mentioned to another group that I post what makes me feel good. I
> > > >> avoid flaming, and that is to say you can take it or leave it.
> > > >
> > > >This is a *discussion* group. If you want to post poetry by well known authors, you should do so at rec.arts.poems. That is what that group was created for.
> > > >
> > > >If you continue to post such poetry here without comments, you *are* flaming the group -- and shall be treated like a troll for doing so.
> > > >
> > > >Your choice.
> > > How many posts in this group get 29 replies? Granted, a few of the
> > > posts are mine.
> > >
> > > You will miss the train because you are arguing with the tricket
> > > master (for this thread). Open your eyes, ears and most of all your
> > > mind.
> > Well put.
> What's "well put,

Mack's post.

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On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 2:23:17 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 2:21:44 AM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 2:17:22 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 4:19:21 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 12:32:31 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> > > > <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 1:19:21 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > > > >> On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 08:59:39 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> > > > >> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:48:08 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > > > >> >> On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 10:14:51 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> > > > >> >> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> >On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 1:09:19 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > > > >> >> >> "The Ladder of St. Augustine"
> > > > >> >> >> - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
> > > > >> >> >>
> > > > >> >> >> "The heights by great men reached and kept
> > > > >> >> >> Were not attained by sudden flight,
> > > > >> >> >> But they, while their companions slept,
> > > > >> >> >> Were toiling upward in the night."
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> >Hi Mack.
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> >Please see 8) in our Guidelines, below:
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> >AAPC OFFICIAL GUIDELINES & FAQS
> > > > >> >> Please feel free to kill file me, but your group is too undisciplined
> > > > >> >> to have rules. What percentage of the group's posts are flames? This
> > > > >> >> is why I haven't been here too much. You need to crack down on
> > > > >> >> trouble makers.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >Unfortunately, you are choosing to make yourself one of the troublemakers.
> > > > >> Then you will miss what I have to offer, won't you?
> > > > >
> > > > >Unfortunately, one cannot miss posts. One can only block them after the fact.
> > > > >
> > > > >> I mentioned to another group that I post what makes me feel good. I
> > > > >> avoid flaming, and that is to say you can take it or leave it.
> > > > >
> > > > >This is a *discussion* group. If you want to post poetry by well known authors, you should do so at rec.arts.poems. That is what that group was created for.
> > > > >
> > > > >If you continue to post such poetry here without comments, you *are* flaming the group -- and shall be treated like a troll for doing so.
> > > > >
> > > > >Your choice.
> > > > How many posts in this group get 29 replies? Granted, a few of the
> > > > posts are mine.
> > > >
> > > > You will miss the train because you are arguing with the tricket
> > > > master (for this thread). Open your eyes, ears and most of all your
> > > > mind.
> > > Well put.
> > What's "well put,
> Mack's post.

Mack's whacked. What's a "tricket" and how does one master it?

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Subject: Re: The Ladder of St. Augustine
From: opb...@yahoo.com (Will Dockery)
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 by: Will Dockery - Sun, 13 Nov 2022 07:39 UTC

On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 2:27:21 AM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 2:23:17 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 2:21:44 AM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail..com wrote:
> > > On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 2:17:22 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 4:19:21 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > > > > On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 12:32:31 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> > > > > <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 1:19:21 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > > > > >> On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 08:59:39 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> > > > > >> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> >On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:48:08 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > > > > >> >> On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 10:14:51 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> > > > > >> >> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> >On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 1:09:19 PM UTC-5, Mack A.. Damia wrote:
> > > > > >> >> >> "The Ladder of St. Augustine"
> > > > > >> >> >> - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
> > > > > >> >> >>
> > > > > >> >> >> "The heights by great men reached and kept
> > > > > >> >> >> Were not attained by sudden flight,
> > > > > >> >> >> But they, while their companions slept,
> > > > > >> >> >> Were toiling upward in the night."
> > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > >> >> >Hi Mack.
> > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > >> >> >Please see 8) in our Guidelines, below:
> > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > >> >> >AAPC OFFICIAL GUIDELINES & FAQS
> > > > > >> >> Please feel free to kill file me, but your group is too undisciplined
> > > > > >> >> to have rules. What percentage of the group's posts are flames? This
> > > > > >> >> is why I haven't been here too much. You need to crack down on
> > > > > >> >> trouble makers.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >Unfortunately, you are choosing to make yourself one of the troublemakers.
> > > > > >> Then you will miss what I have to offer, won't you?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Unfortunately, one cannot miss posts. One can only block them after the fact.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> I mentioned to another group that I post what makes me feel good. I
> > > > > >> avoid flaming, and that is to say you can take it or leave it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >This is a *discussion* group. If you want to post poetry by well known authors, you should do so at rec.arts.poems. That is what that group was created for.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >If you continue to post such poetry here without comments, you *are* flaming the group -- and shall be treated like a troll for doing so.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Your choice.
> > > > > How many posts in this group get 29 replies? Granted, a few of the
> > > > > posts are mine.
> > > > >
> > > > > You will miss the train because you are arguing with the tricket
> > > > > master (for this thread). Open your eyes, ears and most of all your
> > > > > mind.
> > > > Well put.
> > > What's "well put,
> > Mack's post.
> Mack's whacked

Look who's talking, Michael Pendragon, so whacked he thinks he's a better poet than T.S. Eliot.

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