I don't know whether this link will go to just the page on
_Foundation_ or to the whole article on 50 highly anticipated TV
series. Or whether it'll go anywhere at all.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/50-highly-anticipated-tv-series-coming-out-in-2021/ss-BB1ct4rg?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBnb7Kz#image=13

So I'll summarize.

The status is "filming." Cassian Bilton, Laura Birn, Jared Harris,
and Leah Harvey have been cast. I don't know any of these actors,
but there's a picture of Jared Harris, who is somewhere in his
fifties or maybe sixties: grey hair, grey beard, looks healthy.
Maybe he's playing Seldon?

If they do a decent job with it, it could go on for years,
particularly since Asimov spent his later years retconning right
and left to link *all* his works together.

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

On 13/05/2021 14.21, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> I don't know whether this link will go to just the page on
> _Foundation_ or to the whole article on 50 highly anticipated TV
> series. Or whether it'll go anywhere at all.

It did indeed go to the page on _Foundation_.

> https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/50-highly-anticipated-tv-series-coming-out-in-2021/ss-BB1ct4rg?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBnb7Kz#image=13

A couple of thoughts on the article:
1. I have no idea how somebody could claim that _Foundation_
inspired _Star Wars_ or _Star Trek_.
2. If the series is going to cover "thousands of years", it's
going to be covering a lot more than what Asimov wrote about
the Foundation.

--
Michael F. Stemper
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him talk like Mr. Ed
by rubbing peanut butter on his gums.

djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) writes:
>I don't know whether this link will go to just the page on
>_Foundation_ or to the whole article on 50 highly anticipated TV
>series. Or whether it'll go anywhere at all.
>
>https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/50-highly-anticipated-tv-series-coming-out-in-2021/ss-BB1ct4rg?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBnb7Kz#image=13
>
Highly anticipated by who, exactly? A third redo of the Equalizer?
Jeffrey Dahmer story? Young Rock?

On the other hand, _Sandman_ will probably be worth watching.

And Star Trek: Prodigy sounds fun if done right - ticks a lot of YA boxes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_%28TV_series%29

They did leave out _The Wheel of Time_ which was supposed to premier this
year, but may have been delayed due to the pandemic.

On 13/05/2021 14.56, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) writes:
>> I don't know whether this link will go to just the page on
>> _Foundation_ or to the whole article on 50 highly anticipated TV
>> series. Or whether it'll go anywhere at all.
>>
>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/50-highly-anticipated-tv-series-coming-out-in-2021/ss-BB1ct4rg?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBnb7Kz#image=13
>>
> Highly anticipated by who, exactly? A third redo of the Equalizer?
> Jeffrey Dahmer story? Young Rock?

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_%28TV_series%29

Thanks for posting that. The "Casting" section shows a few things:
1. They're starting back in prequel territory, since they've cast
somebody in the role of Eto Demerzel.
2. They're making shit up, as shown by the casting of "Brother Dawn",
"Brother Day", and "Brother Dusk" as members of the ruling family.
3. They're changing the character of "Salvor" to "protective and
intuitive", presumably because "Salvor" will be played by a woman.
Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against casting a woman in this
role, it's changing the character (presumably because of who's playing
it) to which I object.

--
Michael F. Stemper
This sentence no verb.

begin fnord
djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) writes:

> The status is "filming." Cassian Bilton, Laura Birn, Jared Harris,
> and Leah Harvey have been cast. I don't know any of these actors,
> but there's a picture of Jared Harris, who is somewhere in his
> fifties or maybe sixties: grey hair, grey beard, looks healthy.
> Maybe he's playing Seldon?

He is. I'm quite fond of Harris, recently of _The Queen_ (you might
like) and _Chernobyl_ (*extremely* disturbing but very good disaster
porn, which probably means you wouldn't).

--
Steve Coltrin spcoltri@omcl.org Google Groups killfiled here
"A group known as the League of Human Dignity helped arrange for Deuel
to be driven to a local livestock scale, where he could be weighed."
- Associated Press

In article <s7jvlb$cd0$1@dont-email.me>,
Michael F. Stemper <mstemper@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 13/05/2021 14.21, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> I don't know whether this link will go to just the page on
>> _Foundation_ or to the whole article on 50 highly anticipated TV
>> series. Or whether it'll go anywhere at all.
>
>It did indeed go to the page on _Foundation_.
>
>>
>https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/50-highly-anticipated-tv-series-coming-out-in-2021/ss-BB1ct4rg?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBnb7Kz#image=13
>
>A couple of thoughts on the article:
>1. I have no idea how somebody could claim that _Foundation_
>inspired _Star Wars_ or _Star Trek_.

Well, you can't ask Gene Roddenberry, but you could ask George
Lucas if you could get hold of him. That said, whole generations
of SF writers, not to mention scientists, have been influenced by
the writers of Asimov's generation.

>2. If the series is going to cover "thousands of years", it's
>going to be covering a lot more than what Asimov wrote about
>the Foundation.

Oh, yes, it could go to the robot stories and all the other
stories that got linked to the Foundation line.

(I'd like to see Judi Dench playing Susan Calvin.)

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

In article <s7k3c0$kg5$1@dont-email.me>,
Michael F. Stemper <mstemper@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 13/05/2021 14.56, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) writes:
>>> I don't know whether this link will go to just the page on
>>> _Foundation_ or to the whole article on 50 highly anticipated TV
>>> series. Or whether it'll go anywhere at all.
>>>
>>>
>https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/50-highly-anticipated-tv-series-coming-out-in-2021/ss-BB1ct4rg?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBnb7Kz#image=13
>>>
>> Highly anticipated by who, exactly? A third redo of the Equalizer?
>> Jeffrey Dahmer story? Young Rock?
>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_%28TV_series%29
>
>Thanks for posting that. The "Casting" section shows a few things:
>1. They're starting back in prequel territory, since they've cast
>somebody in the role of Eto Demerzel.
>2. They're making shit up, as shown by the casting of "Brother Dawn",
>"Brother Day", and "Brother Dusk" as members of the ruling family.
>3. They're changing the character of "Salvor" to "protective and
>intuitive", presumably because "Salvor" will be played by a woman.
>Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against casting a woman in this
>role, it's changing the character (presumably because of who's playing
>it) to which I object.
>
OK, who's playing her?

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

In article <s7jvlb$cd0$1@dont-email.me>,
Michael F. Stemper <mstemper@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 13/05/2021 14.21, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> I don't know whether this link will go to just the page on
>> _Foundation_ or to the whole article on 50 highly anticipated TV
>> series. Or whether it'll go anywhere at all.
>
>It did indeed go to the page on _Foundation_.
>
>>
>https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/50-highly-anticipated-tv-series-coming-out-in-2021/ss-BB1ct4rg?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBnb7Kz#image=13
>
>A couple of thoughts on the article:
>1. I have no idea how somebody could claim that _Foundation_
>inspired _Star Wars_ or _Star Trek_.

As far as Star Wars goes, Trantor is a lot like Corsuscant.
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On 2021-05-13, Michael F. Stemper <mstemper@gmail.com> wrote:

> A couple of thoughts on the article:
> 1. I have no idea how somebody could claim that _Foundation_
> inspired _Star Wars_ or _Star Trek_.

Part of the marketing, I guess. _Star Wars_ and _Star Trek_ have
an audience, so they're trying to spark interest there.

--
Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de

On 2021-05-13, Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:

> The status is "filming." Cassian Bilton, Laura Birn, Jared Harris,
> and Leah Harvey have been cast. I don't know any of these actors,
> but there's a picture of Jared Harris, who is somewhere in his
> fifties or maybe sixties: grey hair, grey beard, looks healthy.
> Maybe he's playing Seldon?

He is.

Harris has done outstanding work in recent years in _The Expanse_,
as a Belter terrorist/revolutionary, and in the harrowing _Chernobyl_
miniseries, as a scientist who has to convince the Soviet leadership
that they have a PROBLEM on their hands. ("And it will not stop.
Not in a week, not in a month. It will burn and spread its poison
until the entire continent is dead.")

I don't really remember anything about _Foundation_ other than that
it clearly was an attempt to apply thermodynamics to human behavior,
which I thought was a nifty idea, but one I also didn't buy for a
moment.

--
Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de

On Thursday, 13 May 2021 at 23:30:08 UTC+1, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
> On 2021-05-13, Michael F. Stemper <mste...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > A couple of thoughts on the article:
> > 1. I have no idea how somebody could claim that _Foundation_
> > inspired _Star Wars_ or _Star Trek_.
> Part of the marketing, I guess. _Star Wars_ and _Star Trek_ have
> an audience, so they're trying to spark interest there.

<https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/26887/was-there-any-influence-of-foundation-series-by-asimov-on-star-wars>
offers quotes that Dr Asimov himself thought that
"rather more than a whiff" of _Foundation_ was in
_Star Wars_, while acknowledging his own debt to
Edward Gibbon's account of the Roman Empire.
Another answer notes space smugglers, princesses
(more or less), and proposes that the Jedi are in
the role of the Second Foundation... which is a
stretch, I think.

<https://www.openculture.com/2015/12/how-isaac-asimov-went-from-star-trek-critic-to-star-trek-fan-advisor.html>
asserts that Dr Asimov criticised early episodes
of _Star Trek_ but became a keen viewer and
valued correspondent with Gene Roddenberry,
even on "how to give Captain Kirk lines as good
as the ones that naturally go to a more unusual
character like Spock", according to another web
link that doesn't work, though I would like to read
that. Perhaps it's about science fiction meaning
that a lot of the plot explanation comes from the
Science Officer, but Captain Kirk gets to ask
perceptive intelligent questions.

....but the Foundation doesn't seem to be mentioned.

<https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/sci/isaac-asimov-gene-roddenberry-talk-star-trek-future-science-fiction.html>
has the same broken link, but some more quoted material.
Fighting his corner, Gene Roddenberry hopes that
_Star Trek_ viewers may pick up the _Foundation_
series, but does not indicate that he has.

I suppose that a number of planets visited in _Star Trek_
contain societies that have decayed in interesting ways.
"That Which Survives" refers to a star empire devastated
by plague, which occurred in Roman history but again,
I don't recall it in _Foundation_. "The Apple" and
"Return of the Archons" have machinery that is not
understood by the people it served to be mechanical:
I think that at one point, Foundation science is treated
as secret knowledge, being the basis of political influence,
e.g. atomic power systems which may as well be magic.
Several plots end with a promise from the Federation
to steer the broken planet of the week (if Prime Directive
doesn't apply) onto a better track, which sounds like
practising psychohistory. The novel _Prime Directive_
says more about how to study a culture,
<https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Seldon_Institute_of_Psychohistory>
apparently was brought in in novel _Spectre_ to study
the political evolution of the Mirror Universe (I think Kirk
and anti-Spock already agreed on screen that the Empire
would not last long, and it didn't), and
<https://them0vieblog.com/2014/12/18/star-trek-mirror-universe-the-sorrows-of-empire-by-david-mack-review/>
(sic; legitimate, I hope?) refers to the genius team
visiting Deep Space Nine who concluded that the
Federation would be defeated by the Dominion,
with a proposition (which I don't remember) to
surrender but then prepare to rebuild a Federation
galaxy when it was the Dominion's turn to
self-destruct, juvpu vf gur cybg bs "gnq bs havba"
bs pbhefr.

On 13/05/2021 17.27, James Nicoll wrote:
> In article <s7jvlb$cd0$1@dont-email.me>,
> Michael F. Stemper <mstemper@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 13/05/2021 14.21, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>> I don't know whether this link will go to just the page on
>>> _Foundation_ or to the whole article on 50 highly anticipated TV
>>> series. Or whether it'll go anywhere at all.
>>
>> It did indeed go to the page on _Foundation_.
>>
>>>
>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/50-highly-anticipated-tv-series-coming-out-in-2021/ss-BB1ct4rg?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBnb7Kz#image=13
>>
>> A couple of thoughts on the article:
>> 1. I have no idea how somebody could claim that _Foundation_
>> inspired _Star Wars_ or _Star Trek_.
>
> As far as Star Wars goes, Trantor is a lot like Corsuscant.

That's true, but it's kind of a stretch from "similar place in
fourth (in release order)" to "inspired first episode" or
"inspired entire series".

--
Michael F. Stemper
Indians scattered on dawn's highway bleeding;
Ghosts crowd the young child's fragile eggshell mind.

In article <s7lsov$lpu$1@dont-email.me>,
Michael F. Stemper <mstemper@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 13/05/2021 17.27, James Nicoll wrote:
>> In article <s7jvlb$cd0$1@dont-email.me>,
>> Michael F. Stemper <mstemper@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 13/05/2021 14.21, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>>> I don't know whether this link will go to just the page on
>>>> _Foundation_ or to the whole article on 50 highly anticipated TV
>>>> series. Or whether it'll go anywhere at all.
>>>
>>> It did indeed go to the page on _Foundation_.
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/50-highly-anticipated-tv-series-coming-out-in-2021/ss-BB1ct4rg?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBnb7Kz#image=13
>>>
>>> A couple of thoughts on the article:
>>> 1. I have no idea how somebody could claim that _Foundation_
>>> inspired _Star Wars_ or _Star Trek_.
>>
>> As far as Star Wars goes, Trantor is a lot like Corsuscant.
>
>That's true, but it's kind of a stretch from "similar place in
>fourth (in release order)" to "inspired first episode" or
>"inspired entire series".
>

Kind of depends on what "inspired" means. It could easily mean
"reading Foundation inspired my love of SF"
--
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What's not in Columbia anymore..

Among the things Dorothy J Heydt wrote:

> If they do a decent job with it, it could go on for years,
> particularly since Asimov spent his later years retconning right
> and left to link *all* his works together.

I fear that if they do a decent job with it, it may be deemed "too cerebral for its timeslot."

On a second worry, they are all Asimov's works, but are the adaptation rights all available to one entity?

Everyone has heard the case of Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch, siblings who, though they'd been acolytes in Magneto's Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, and fought the X-Men (movie rights owned by FOX studios), became stalwart Avengers (movie rights owned by Marvel Studios/Disney). Like the summer of two Bonds, we got the summer of two Quicksilvers. (A editor tells of a time when Marvel was owned by corporate overlords not versed in the entertainment industry; Spider-Man's two magazines: The Amazing Spider-Man, and The Spectacular Spider-Man, were each sold to a different movie studio.)

Star Trek was seen not to be one thing when the model kits for Voyager came from Revell, whereas all previous kits had come from AMT. Previously, AMT had probably had to license TNG and DS9 separately, and likely each movie, although for that they had the competitive advantage that they already had the tooling to produce an Enterprise kit, and just would need to change the box art to incorporate a new title. William Rostler wrote the book _Star Trek II Biographies_, and says all parties were informed that it only had the rights to draw from the movie Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, which all parties ignored.

Come to think of it Asimov adaptations already have an experience of trying to make a whole from some of the parts. He had sold the movie rights to the robot story "Evidence" to Orson Welles. I don't know if its plot of a candidate for office being accused of being a robot replacement for the real man would fit as part of an "I, Robot" movie, but the idea that its hard to tell a robot obeying The Three Laws from a very moral man seems to be the clearest statement of the themes in Harlan Ellison's script.

--
-Jack

"Michael F. Stemper" <mstemper@gmail.com> wrote in
news:s7jvlb$cd0$1@dont-email.me:

> On 13/05/2021 14.21, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> I don't know whether this link will go to just the page on
>> _Foundation_ or to the whole article on 50 highly anticipated
>> TV series. Or whether it'll go anywhere at all.
>
> It did indeed go to the page on _Foundation_.
>
>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/50-highly-anticipated-tv-s
>> eries-coming-out-in-2021/ss-BB1ct4rg?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBnb7Kz
>> #image=13
>
> A couple of thoughts on the article:
> 1. I have no idea how somebody could claim that _Foundation_
> inspired _Star Wars_ or _Star Trek_.

In the braod sense, Foundation is one of the classic examples of
space opera, which Star Wars certainly is.

Trek is a pretty big stretch, though.

--
Terry Austin

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Lynn:
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(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

Vacation photos from Iceland:
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On 2021-05-14, Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> wrote:

> I fear that if they do a decent job with it, it may be deemed "too cerebral for its timeslot."

It's going to be on Apple TV+.

--
Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de

In article <slrns9tc7p.82v.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de>,
Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:
>On 2021-05-14, Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I fear that if they do a decent job with it, it may be deemed "too
>cerebral for its timeslot."
>
>It's going to be on Apple TV+.
>
Care to elaborate on that? Does Apple TV mean it might be good,
or that it's doomed to be dreadful?

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <slrns9tc7p...@lorvorc.mips.inka.de>,
> Christian Weisgerber <na...@mips.inka.de> wrote:
> >On 2021-05-14, Jack Bohn <jack....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I fear that if they do a decent job with it, it may be deemed "too
> >cerebral for its timeslot."
> >
> >It's going to be on Apple TV+.
> >
> Care to elaborate on that? Does Apple TV mean it might be good,
> or that it's doomed to be dreadful?

I take it (and forgive me if I'm wrong) as merely citing the specifics in correcting me.
I may be being corrected in the literal sense of it being on-demand and not in any specific time slot,
or in the broader sense of it not being a broadcast, but more narrowcast, and aimed at a common denominator that doesn't have to be the lowest.
I don't know as any streaming service can be said to be different in quality, but Apple TV is currently home to "For All Mankind" an alt-hist in which the Russians reach the Moon first, by the historical difference that they reached the Moon first. (I was going to blame the proverbial alien space bats deciding it so, but didn't want to be mistakenly taken literally.)

For "Foundation," I am fearing a translation of the broad predictability of the trends of a large population will be translated to the iron control of Fate, and a personal Destiny each character will fulfill.

--
-Jack

begin fnord
djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) writes:

> In article <slrns9tc7p.82v.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de>,
> Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:
>>
>>It's going to be on Apple TV+.
>>
> Care to elaborate on that? Does Apple TV mean it might be good,
> or that it's doomed to be dreadful?

Apple TV+ is the fruit-themed computing firm's streaming service. Their
main genre offering so far is _For All Mankind_, an alternate history in
which the Commies get to the moon a few days before Neil and Buzz. I
like it a lot.

--
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"A group known as the League of Human Dignity helped arrange for Deuel
to be driven to a local livestock scale, where he could be weighed."
- Associated Press

On 5/14/2021 10:46 AM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <slrns9tc7p.82v.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de>,
> Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:
>> On 2021-05-14, Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I fear that if they do a decent job with it, it may be deemed "too
>> cerebral for its timeslot."
>>
>> It's going to be on Apple TV+.
>>
> Care to elaborate on that? Does Apple TV mean it might be good,
> or that it's doomed to be dreadful?
>
Apple TV is a streaming service, so no "timeslot".

--
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Angrily, angrily, angrily, the net's a nut's scream.

On 2021-05-14, Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:

>>> I fear that if they do a decent job with it, it may be deemed "too
>>cerebral for its timeslot."
>>
>>It's going to be on Apple TV+.
>>
> Care to elaborate on that? Does Apple TV mean it might be good,
> or that it's doomed to be dreadful?

It means that the concept of "timeslot" does not apply.

_For All Mankind_ (alternate history of an American space program
after the Soviet Union put the first man on the moon) is very good.

_See_ (a post-apocalyptic future where most people are blind) is
well done but ludicrous, and at the end of the first season I was
on the side of the villain.

--
Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de

In article <s7migs$mjd$2@dont-email.me>,
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>On 5/14/2021 10:46 AM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> In article <slrns9tc7p.82v.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de>,
>> Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:
>>> On 2021-05-14, Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I fear that if they do a decent job with it, it may be deemed "too
>>> cerebral for its timeslot."
>>>
>>> It's going to be on Apple TV+.
>>>
>> Care to elaborate on that? Does Apple TV mean it might be good,
>> or that it's doomed to be dreadful?
>>
>Apple TV is a streaming service, so no "timeslot".
>
Okay, but no one has yet offered an opinion as to whether its
product will be good, indifferent, or absolutely godawful.

Perhaps you're all reserving judgment till you see it, than which
there could be worse plans.

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

On 5/14/2021 2:05 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <s7migs$mjd$2@dont-email.me>,
> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>> On 5/14/2021 10:46 AM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>> In article <slrns9tc7p.82v.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de>,
>>> Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:
>>>> On 2021-05-14, Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I fear that if they do a decent job with it, it may be deemed "too
>>>> cerebral for its timeslot."
>>>>
>>>> It's going to be on Apple TV+.
>>>>
>>> Care to elaborate on that? Does Apple TV mean it might be good,
>>> or that it's doomed to be dreadful?
>>>
>> Apple TV is a streaming service, so no "timeslot".
>>
> Okay, but no one has yet offered an opinion as to whether its
> product will be good, indifferent, or absolutely godawful.
>
> Perhaps you're all reserving judgment till you see it, than which
> there could be worse plans.
>
The quality of the program has no correlation with how long it is
produced. ;)

--
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On Friday, 14 May 2021 at 19:27:11 UTC+1, jack....@gmail.com wrote:
> Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> > In article <slrns9tc7p...@lorvorc.mips.inka.de>,
> > Christian Weisgerber <na...@mips.inka.de> wrote:
> > >On 2021-05-14, Jack Bohn <jack....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I fear that if they do a decent job with it, it may be deemed "too
> > >cerebral for its timeslot."
> > >
> > >It's going to be on Apple TV+.
> > >
> > Care to elaborate on that? Does Apple TV mean it might be good,
> > or that it's doomed to be dreadful?
> I take it (and forgive me if I'm wrong) as merely citing the specifics in correcting me.
> I may be being corrected in the literal sense of it being on-demand and not in any specific time slot,
> or in the broader sense of it not being a broadcast, but more narrowcast, and aimed at a common denominator that doesn't have to be the lowest.
> I don't know as any streaming service can be said to be different in quality, but Apple TV is currently home to "For All Mankind" an alt-hist in which the Russians reach the Moon first, by the historical difference that they reached the Moon first. (I was going to blame the proverbial alien space bats deciding it so, but didn't want to be mistakenly taken literally.)
>
> For "Foundation," I am fearing a translation of the broad predictability of the trends of a large population will be translated to the iron control of Fate, and a personal Destiny each character will fulfill.

It was random, up to a point, whether any rocket model
on either side blew up or caught fire or did what it was
meant to. Apollo 1 killed everyone on board during
a rehearsal.

I think I saw a TV documentary which claimed, as this
article doesn't seem to, that if its subject had lived longer,
the Moon might have received the Red Flag first.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Korolev>

Is he in the show?

P.S. The Fantastic Four shadowed Apollo 11, I forget
why and whether they had visited the moon already...
ah yes.
<https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Fantastic_Four_Vol_1_13>
<https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Fantastic_Four_Vol_1_98>

Without finding a copy besides this synopsis of #98
to read, I wonder if "an island made to resemble the
moon's surface" is a late story change from the FF
actually visiting the moon - again - before Apollo 11 did,
which would be rude. Since broadly, they put the words
on last. It sure looks like the moon on the cover. ;--)

On 2021-05-13 1:45 p.m., Michael F. Stemper wrote:
> On 13/05/2021 14.21, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> I don't know whether this link will go to just the page on
>> _Foundation_ or to the whole article on 50 highly anticipated TV
>> series.  Or whether it'll go anywhere at all.
>
> It did indeed go to the page on _Foundation_.
>
>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/50-highly-anticipated-tv-series-coming-out-in-2021/ss-BB1ct4rg?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBnb7Kz#image=13
>>
>
> A couple of thoughts on the article:
> 1. I have no idea how somebody could claim that _Foundation_
> inspired _Star Wars_ or _Star Trek_.

Foundation starts with a crumbling Galactic Empire modeled on Rome.
Star Wars starts with a crumbling Galactic Empire modeled on Rome.
Coruscant is Trantor's twin.

> 2. If the series is going to cover "thousands of years", it's
> going to be covering a lot more than what Asimov wrote about
> the Foundation.
>
>