On 15/04/2022 4:13 pm, alvey wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 13:56:43 +1000, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>
>> On 15/04/2022 12:20 pm, alvey wrote:
>>> On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 11:27:49 +1000, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 15/04/2022 11:07 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 15/04/2022 9:04 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>> On 15/04/2022 6:54 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 22:00:51 +1000, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 14/04/2022 7:58 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 14/04/2022 5:41 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 14/04/2022 10:15 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Appalling:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://chaser.com.au/national/an-exhaustive-list-of-the-liberal-partys-corruption-over-the-last-7-years/?fbclid=IwAR2Ac3-VOZ2OBt2PL3aHEZSEbYBeig78oZCG6zqE7lidgWMc04am5_NwP40
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ROTFL :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   From one of the world's most credible media outlets :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> **Then feel free to disprove the claims.
>>>>>>>> Sorry Trevor. That would take *way* more energy than I'd ever be
>>>>>>>> willing
>>>>>>>> to commit to the exercise.
>>>>>>> There he goes folks. Galloping down the well-worn Runaway Track.
>>>>>> he's just not interested. no shame in that.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah there is when you're claiming bias. There is no bias, they're facts.
>>>>>
>>>>> As usual gutless Derro runs away after making a statement he can't
>>>>> back up. Typical.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> but i'll bet a similar list could easily be made for any period Labor
>>>> was in office
>>> Unless you're going to supply it felix then you're as bad as Fraudster for
>>> claiming something which you then refuse to substantiate.
>>>
>> wrong. an opinion doesn't require proof.
> Wronger. "...i'll bet a similar list could easily be made..." is a
> statement *not* an opinion,

wrongerer. it's an opinion.  "I'll bet" qualifies my statement and makes
it opinion.

> and a fact is a statement that can be proven True or False.

even if it weren't opinion, I would still not need to substantiate it
unless I wished to prove it to be true. for example, I could say that my
Lancer can do 200 klmph. that is just an unproven claim. I don't *have*
to prove it unless I wish to convince anyone that it's true. ppl are at
liberty to believe what's said or not in the absence of proof.

>
>
> alvey
>

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On 15/4/2022 8:42 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 15/4/2022 7:22 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 15/04/2022 5:14 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 15/04/2022 12:23 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> On 14/04/2022 5:41 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> **OK, I'll bite. AFTER you read the Greens' policies, tell me what
>>>>>> is wrong with them:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://greens.org.au/platform
>>>>>
>>>>> They're completely unworkable. They might be okay if you live in a
>>>>> "La-La" type environment where you don't have to pay for it all,
>>>>> but in the real world the Greens are completely unaffordable.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> **Your failure to read the Greens' policy documents is noted.
>>>
>>> Lol :)
>>>
>>> When you do this you remind me a lot of Paul Saccani. He used to do
>>> this all the time in that he would assume that, as he could never be
>>> wrong, then whoever didn't agree with him must simply not understand
>>> what was being discussed :)
>>>
>>> It's just as funny when you do it, too :)
>>
>> **What is sad, is that you have failed to read the Greens' policy
>> documents.
>>
>> For my part, I've read policy documents from:
>>
>> UAP - Hysterical. Nothing of substance.
>> Hanson - Mostly utter crap and a deep desire to take Australia back to
>> the 1950s.
>> The Greens - I don't agree with all their policies, but the important
>> stuff is bang-on.
>> Labor - Fucked, timid and simply not good enouogh.
>> COALition - More of the same.
>>
>>
> There had to be at least one person who has bothered to read all that
> crap, congratulations.
> Us mere mortals just watch the TV and read other news and make of it

A typo, you should have written "mere morons" because only morons get
their news from limited resources. What's more, I'm sure it was
specially tailored so you mere morons can easily see and adopt their
intended meaning - no deep analysis required or even possible on your
part. I see that already in what Darren is uttering.

> what we can, haven't seen much from the Greens but from what I can see
> their hearts might be in the right place but they really have no idea
> what they are doing.
>
Broaden your spectrum Daryl!

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On 15/4/2022 8:50 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 15/04/2022 7:17 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 15/4/2022 5:15 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> Call it whatever you like Trev, but we've been down this road *far*
>>> too many times for it to be worth any more than what I'm doing right
>>> now.
>>>
>>
>> So far we haven't mentioned Clive Palmer, he wants to impose a 15%
>> export tax on iron ore to be used to pay down our Covid debt,
>> fortunately there is zero chance of that lunatic forming a Govt.
>
> Thankfully, and for what it's worth I'd be happy to see the fat cunt
> dragged out of his house and shot in the head in the gutter if it means
> an end to his fucking annoying text messages.
>
People like you need to move to Russia. They have just the sort of
government there that's perfect for you.

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On 15/4/2022 9:04 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 15/04/2022 4:13 pm, alvey wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 13:56:43 +1000, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>
>>> On 15/04/2022 12:20 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 11:27:49 +1000, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 15/04/2022 11:07 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 15/04/2022 9:04 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>> On 15/04/2022 6:54 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 22:00:51 +1000, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 14/04/2022 7:58 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 14/04/2022 5:41 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/04/2022 10:15 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Appalling:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://chaser.com.au/national/an-exhaustive-list-of-the-liberal-partys-corruption-over-the-last-7-years/?fbclid=IwAR2Ac3-VOZ2OBt2PL3aHEZSEbYBeig78oZCG6zqE7lidgWMc04am5_NwP40
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ROTFL :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     From one of the world's most credible media outlets :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> **Then feel free to disprove the claims.
>>>>>>>>> Sorry Trevor. That would take *way* more energy than I'd ever be
>>>>>>>>> willing
>>>>>>>>> to commit to the exercise.
>>>>>>>> There he goes folks. Galloping down the well-worn Runaway Track.
>>>>>>> he's just not interested. no shame in that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah there is when you're claiming bias. There is no bias, they're
>>>>>> facts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As usual gutless Derro runs away after making a statement he can't
>>>>>> back up. Typical.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> but i'll bet a similar list could easily be made for any period Labor
>>>>> was in office
>>>> Unless you're going to supply it felix then you're as bad as
>>>> Fraudster for
>>>> claiming something which you then refuse to substantiate.
>>>>
>>> wrong. an opinion doesn't require proof.
>> Wronger. "...i'll bet a similar list could easily be made..." is a
>> statement *not* an opinion,
>
>
> wrongerer. it's an opinion.  "I'll bet" qualifies my statement and makes
> it opinion.
>
All that means is you are *certain*.
>
>> and a fact is a statement that can be proven True or False.
>
>
> even if it weren't opinion, I would still not need to substantiate it
> unless I wished to prove it to be true. for example, I could say that my
> Lancer can do 200 klmph. that is just an unproven claim. I don't *have*
> to prove it unless I wish to convince anyone that it's true. ppl are at
> liberty to believe what's said or not in the absence of proof.
>
>
>>
>>
>> alvey
>>
>

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On 15/4/2022 8:45 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 15/04/2022 7:13 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 15/4/2022 5:05 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> We're fortunate that we've come out the other side of this pandemic
>>> in remarkably good shape. Both economically, and in terms of the
>>> human toll. Some of that has been pure luck, and some of that is a
>>> result of our geographic position. But you can't put it all down to
>>> luck and isolation and have to acknowledge that a fair degree of the
>>> position we find ourselves in today is a result of the measures the
>>> Federal Government implemented quite early on.
>>>
>>> As I've said. We've got off lightly. A great many countries have been
>>> devastated.
>>>
>>>
>> We certainly did better than many others.
>
> We did indeed.
>
>> BTW how did you go with that old Ford, did you go and look at it?
>
> Me and my cheque book are paying him a visit tomorrow afternoon.
> Hopefully I'll drag another old rusting shit fighter back to the farm :)
>
>
>
>
>
>
Nice, if its as good as he described it might be a bargain at the price
he mentioned, good luck with it.

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On 15/4/2022 8:50 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 15/04/2022 7:17 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 15/4/2022 5:15 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> Call it whatever you like Trev, but we've been down this road *far*
>>> too many times for it to be worth any more than what I'm doing right
>>> now.
>>>
>>
>> So far we haven't mentioned Clive Palmer, he wants to impose a 15%
>> export tax on iron ore to be used to pay down our Covid debt,
>> fortunately there is zero chance of that lunatic forming a Govt.
>
> Thankfully, and for what it's worth I'd be happy to see the fat cunt
> dragged out of his house and shot in the head in the gutter if it means
> an end to his fucking annoying text messages.
>
>
>
>
>
With a bit of luck Covid will do that job:-)
I haven't gotten any texts but his TV ads are fucking annoying.
I don't mind big companies paying more tax but his 15% export tax is
just nuts and would more than likely wipe out the industry killing the
goose that laid the golden egg, it makes no sense at all and highlights
what a shit for brains he is.

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On 15/04/2022 10:37 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 15/4/2022 8:45 pm, Noddy wrote:

>>> BTW how did you go with that old Ford, did you go and look at it?
>>
>> Me and my cheque book are paying him a visit tomorrow afternoon.
>> Hopefully I'll drag another old rusting shit fighter back to the farm :)
>
> Nice, if its as good as he described it might be a bargain at the price
> he mentioned, good luck with it.

Thanks. Hopefully by this time tomorrow I'll be the new owner.

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Regards,
Noddy.

On 15/04/2022 8:42 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 15/4/2022 7:22 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:

>> For my part, I've read policy documents from:
>>
>> UAP - Hysterical. Nothing of substance.
>> Hanson - Mostly utter crap and a deep desire to take Australia back to
>> the 1950s.
>> The Greens - I don't agree with all their policies, but the important
>> stuff is bang-on.
>> Labor - Fucked, timid and simply not good enouogh.
>> COALition - More of the same.
>>
>>
> There had to be at least one person who has bothered to read all that
> crap, congratulations.
> Us mere mortals just watch the TV and read other news and make of it
> what we can, haven't seen much from the Greens but from what I can see
> their hearts might be in the right place but they really have no idea
> what they are doing.

Absolutely none whatsoever.

Have a look at their page that Trev linked to earlier. The costs
involved in what they want to do would make Elon Musk, Jeff Bazos and
Bill Gates shit themselves *so* hard they'd rupture their arseholes, yet
the Greens method of paying for it all is to "tax rich cunts".

They're delusional.

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On 15/04/2022 9:29 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 15/04/2022 11:14 am, Clocky wrote:
>> On 14/04/2022 10:22 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 14/04/2022 3:21 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 14/04/2022 12:00 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>> On 14/04/2022 1:50 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>> On 14/04/2022 10:15 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>> Appalling:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://chaser.com.au/national/an-exhaustive-list-of-the-liberal-partys-corruption-over-the-last-7-years/?fbclid=IwAR2Ac3-VOZ2OBt2PL3aHEZSEbYBeig78oZCG6zqE7lidgWMc04am5_NwP40
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> biased. where's Labors list?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> **Labor has not been in government for TEN YEARS. Those fuck-ups
>>>>> are COALition ones.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's a bit more:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.boilingcold.com.au/northern-endeavour-debacle-hits-209m-with-much-more-to-come/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> HALF A BILLION DOLLARS.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fucking cunts. As is anyone who votes for the criminals min charge
>>>>> of this country.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just look at the way Labor carefully managed the country though the
>>>> worst of the GFC
>>>
>>>
>>> you mean like wasting the surplus Howard had accumulated on pink
>>> batts and school halls?
>>>
>>
>> Seriously, that's just Murdoch bullshit that you're regurgitating. The
>> GFC killed many economies and we didn't even have a recession.
>
>
> primarily because we didn't have the same level of debt other Western
> nations did
>

We do now and we have the Libs to thank for it.

>
>> Our government was wwidely credited for it's management of the crisis
>> by everyone around the world except Murdoch.
>>
>> Did Murdoch tell you that Howard fucked the economy and set the
>> country up for it's current deficit problem?
>>
>> I'm guessing not.
>>
>>>
>>>> and compare it to what a real budget emergency looks like after a
>>>> decade of the LNP.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm sure the pandemic had something to do with that. anyhow, I don't
>>> take interest in politics these days. i'm in a safe electorate so my
>>> vote counts for nothing. I usually just vote for the independent
>>> candidate.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

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"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if
it is unproven, he is lying."

On 15/04/2022 9:54 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 15/04/2022 11:49 am, Xeno wrote:
>> On 15/4/2022 11:29 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 15/04/2022 11:14 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 14/04/2022 10:22 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>> On 14/04/2022 3:21 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 14/04/2022 12:00 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>> On 14/04/2022 1:50 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 14/04/2022 10:15 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Appalling:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://chaser.com.au/national/an-exhaustive-list-of-the-liberal-partys-corruption-over-the-last-7-years/?fbclid=IwAR2Ac3-VOZ2OBt2PL3aHEZSEbYBeig78oZCG6zqE7lidgWMc04am5_NwP40
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> biased. where's Labors list?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **Labor has not been in government for TEN YEARS. Those fuck-ups
>>>>>>> are COALition ones.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's a bit more:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.boilingcold.com.au/northern-endeavour-debacle-hits-209m-with-much-more-to-come/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HALF A BILLION DOLLARS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fucking cunts. As is anyone who votes for the criminals min
>>>>>>> charge of this country.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just look at the way Labor carefully managed the country though
>>>>>> the worst of the GFC
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> you mean like wasting the surplus Howard had accumulated on pink
>>>>> batts and school halls?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Seriously, that's just Murdoch bullshit that you're regurgitating.
>>>> The GFC killed many economies and we didn't even have a recession.
>>>
>>>
>>> primarily because we didn't have the same level of debt other Western
>>> nations did
>>>
>> Well, thanks to the Libs, we do now. The next recession should prove
>> very interesting.
>
>
> and what evidence is there the Labor would have done better.

The way we came through the GFC largely unscathed compared to the level
of debt accumulated by the incompetent Lieberals since.

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keith on the 7 Oct 2021 wrote;
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if
it is unproven, he is lying."

On 15/04/2022 3:15 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 15/04/2022 12:23 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 14/04/2022 10:00 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>>> **Then feel free to disprove the claims.
>>>
>>> Sorry Trevor. That would take *way* more energy than I'd ever be
>>> willing to commit to the exercise. If you want to believe it all then
>>> knock yourself out, but there is nothing I could ever present to a
>>> "closet Labor Fanatic" like you that would ever make you believe
>>> otherwise :)
>>
>>
>> **That's not it. You won't, because you can't.
>
> Call it whatever you like Trev, but we've been down this road *far* too
> many times for it to be worth any more than what I'm doing right now.
>

You do the same thing every time. Nothing except lap up what the Murdoch
shitrags feed you.

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it is unproven, he is lying."

On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 17:05:12 +1000, Noddy wrote:

> On 15/04/2022 2:52 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 15/4/2022 12:29 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>
>>>> Just out of curiosity Trev, would you take a moment to explain
>>>> exactly what the Libs *did* fuck up in relation to Covid?
>>>
>>> **700-odd deaths in federally controlled aged care facilities.
>>
>> What makes you think that the Federal Govt could have done anything
>> about that or that a Labor Govt would have done anything different?
>
> They wouldn't have,

Baseless assertion.

> and it wasn't just Federally run aged care
> facilities that were affected either. Both sides of Federal Parliament
> are as guilty as each other when it comes to the neglect shown to the
> aged care industry, but in fairness to both of them *no one* could have
> predicted Covid-19 or how devastating it would be on the elderly.
>
> All that we can hope is that lessons have been learned from this that
> will be acted on.

Seeing as you, a card-carrying Tory, haven't learnt anything from this
guvmints catalogued list of lies, failures, bullying and corruption then
that's unlikely.

>
>>> * Relying on one vaccine and ordering back-up vaccines too late.
>>
>> BS, they ordered what they could get.
>
> Indeed they did, and when they could get it.

Lie. They ignored Pfizer's request for a high-level meeting with Health
minister Hunt in June and didn't sign a deal with Pfizer until November.
>
> We were some months behind the rest of the world in terms of being able
> to purchase vaccines as the drug companies were all busy dealing with
> higher priority cases elsewhere.

See above. We were "behind" because the Feds were incompetent.

> As soon as they had caught up and we
> were invited to make a purchase we did so immediately to the limit of
> what they were prepared to offer.

Baseless assertion.
>
> This is the thing people don't seem to get. You cannot *force* someone
> to sell you something no matter how badly you want it.

The "thing" people in here *have* got is that you're a liar, fraud,
hypocrite and all-round bozo.
>
>>> * Giving huge chunks of money to companies that weren't suffering
>>> under COVID restrictions.
>>> * Not trying to claw back the money.
>>
>> Agree they didn't do a great job there and were too generous but not
>> only with companies, individuals also got handouts they didn't need or
>> deserve.
>> What makes you think that Labor would have done differently or better?
>
> The wouldn't have,

Baseless assertion.

> and that's the point.

Ahhh, a bozo in action. It cannot be a "point" because it is unproveable.

Enough said
the rest unread
you can't argue
with a cement head.

alvey

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On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 17:14:41 +1000, Noddy wrote:

> On 15/04/2022 12:23 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 14/04/2022 5:41 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>>> **OK, I'll bite. AFTER you read the Greens' policies, tell me what is
>>>> wrong with them:
>>>>
>>>> https://greens.org.au/platform
>>>
>>> They're completely unworkable. They might be okay if you live in a
>>> "La-La" type environment where you don't have to pay for it all, but
>>> in the real world the Greens are completely unaffordable.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> **Your failure to read the Greens' policy documents is noted.
>
> Lol :)
>
> When you do this you remind me a lot of Paul Saccani. He used to do this
> all the time in that he would assume that, as he could never be wrong,
> then whoever didn't agree with him must simply not understand what was
> being discussed :)
>

That's a fairly spectacular comprehension Fail. Even by the Fraudsters
standards.

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On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 20:48:30 +1000, Noddy wrote:

> On 15/04/2022 7:22 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 15/04/2022 5:14 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>>> **Your failure to read the Greens' policy documents is noted.
>>>
>>> Lol :)
>>>
>>> When you do this you remind me a lot of Paul Saccani. He used to do
>>> this all the time in that he would assume that, as he could never be
>>> wrong, then whoever didn't agree with him must simply not understand
>>> what was being discussed :)
>>>
>>> It's just as funny when you do it, too :)
>>
>> **What is sad, is that you have failed to read the Greens' policy
>> documents.
>
> Oh, I've read them Trevor.

Sure you have Fraudster. I believe you. Honest.

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On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 20:42:05 +1000, Daryl wrote:

> There had to be at least one person who has bothered to read all that
> crap, congratulations.
> Us mere mortals just watch the TV and read other news and make of it
> what we can, haven't seen much from the Greens but from what I can see
> their hearts might be in the right place but they really have no idea
> what they are doing.

I wonder if Murdoch feels a warm tingle or just more contempt for his
victims when he reads things like Deryl just pecked out?

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On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 23:12:47 +1000, Noddy wrote:

> On 15/04/2022 8:42 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 15/4/2022 7:22 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>
>>> For my part, I've read policy documents from:
>>>
>>> UAP - Hysterical. Nothing of substance.
>>> Hanson - Mostly utter crap and a deep desire to take Australia back to
>>> the 1950s.
>>> The Greens - I don't agree with all their policies, but the important
>>> stuff is bang-on.
>>> Labor - Fucked, timid and simply not good enouogh.
>>> COALition - More of the same.
>>>
>>>
>> There had to be at least one person who has bothered to read all that
>> crap, congratulations.
>> Us mere mortals just watch the TV and read other news and make of it
>> what we can, haven't seen much from the Greens but from what I can see
>> their hearts might be in the right place but they really have no idea
>> what they are doing.
>
> Absolutely none whatsoever.

True. They lack Morrisons' Mobs laser focus on power and making money for
themselves. Soooo naive.
> Have a look at their page that Trev linked to earlier. The costs
> involved in what they want to do would make Elon Musk, Jeff Bazos and
> Bill Gates shit themselves *so* hard they'd rupture their arseholes, yet
> the Greens method of paying for it all is to "tax rich cunts".
>
> They're delusional.

So they should be your preferred party then....

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On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 21:04:38 +1000, Yosemite Sam wrote:

> On 15/04/2022 4:13 pm, alvey wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 13:56:43 +1000, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>
>>> On 15/04/2022 12:20 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 11:27:49 +1000, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 15/04/2022 11:07 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 15/04/2022 9:04 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>> On 15/04/2022 6:54 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 22:00:51 +1000, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 14/04/2022 7:58 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 14/04/2022 5:41 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/04/2022 10:15 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Appalling:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://chaser.com.au/national/an-exhaustive-list-of-the-liberal-partys-corruption-over-the-last-7-years/?fbclid=IwAR2Ac3-VOZ2OBt2PL3aHEZSEbYBeig78oZCG6zqE7lidgWMc04am5_NwP40
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ROTFL :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   From one of the world's most credible media outlets :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> **Then feel free to disprove the claims.
>>>>>>>>> Sorry Trevor. That would take *way* more energy than I'd ever be
>>>>>>>>> willing
>>>>>>>>> to commit to the exercise.
>>>>>>>> There he goes folks. Galloping down the well-worn Runaway Track.
>>>>>>> he's just not interested. no shame in that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah there is when you're claiming bias. There is no bias, they're facts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As usual gutless Derro runs away after making a statement he can't
>>>>>> back up. Typical.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> but i'll bet a similar list could easily be made for any period Labor
>>>>> was in office
>>>> Unless you're going to supply it felix then you're as bad as Fraudster for
>>>> claiming something which you then refuse to substantiate.
>>>>
>>> wrong. an opinion doesn't require proof.
>> Wronger. "...i'll bet a similar list could easily be made..." is a
>> statement *not* an opinion,
>
> wrongerer. it's an opinion.  "I'll bet" qualifies my statement and makes
> it opinion.

Wrongerest. "I'll bet" does no such thing. If anything it reinforces that
the sentence is a statement.

>> and a fact is a statement that can be proven True or False.
>
> even if it weren't opinion, I would still not need to substantiate it
> unless I wished to prove it to be true.

Whoa there young felix! You're getting deeper into Fraudster territory.

As your statement stands, it is possibly defaming the Fed ALP, so it
*could* be up to you prove it whether you wished to or not. The way lesser
alternative is that you emulate Gubbins in that you're making a bold claim
and then refusing to substantiate it. Do you really want to be in that
company?

<snip silly>

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On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 20:40:28 +1000, Noddy wrote:

snip stoopid

Fraudster thinks he should be a Lib voter because that's who amoral,
money-grubbing business types vote for. Y'see he believes his own lie that
he was a businessman (as well as a Spanner Superstar), and not the
broom-pusher he actually was. It's simple role-reinforcement.

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On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 17:15:54 +1000, Noddy wrote:

> On 15/04/2022 12:23 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 14/04/2022 10:00 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>>> **Then feel free to disprove the claims.
>>>
>>> Sorry Trevor. That would take *way* more energy than I'd ever be
>>> willing to commit to the exercise. If you want to believe it all then
>>> knock yourself out, but there is nothing I could ever present to a
>>> "closet Labor Fanatic" like you that would ever make you believe
>>> otherwise :)
>>
>>
>> **That's not it. You won't, because you can't.
>
> Call it whatever you like Trev, but we've been down this road *far* too
> many times for it to be worth any more than what I'm doing right now.

Everybody singgggg!

Our little runaway
a'run run run run runaway.

You're a hoot Fraudster.

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On 16/4/2022 12:47 am, Clocky wrote:
> On 15/04/2022 3:15 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 15/04/2022 12:23 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 14/04/2022 10:00 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>>>> **Then feel free to disprove the claims.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry Trevor. That would take *way* more energy than I'd ever be
>>>> willing to commit to the exercise. If you want to believe it all
>>>> then knock yourself out, but there is nothing I could ever present
>>>> to a "closet Labor Fanatic" like you that would ever make you
>>>> believe otherwise :)
>>>
>>>
>>> **That's not it. You won't, because you can't.
>>
>> Call it whatever you like Trev, but we've been down this road *far*
>> too many times for it to be worth any more than what I'm doing right now.
>>
>
> You do the same thing every time. Nothing except lap up what the Murdoch
> shitrags feed you.
>
All Darren does is *run away* from any form of scrutiny!

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On 16/4/2022 6:00 am, alvey wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 20:48:30 +1000, Noddy wrote:
>
>> On 15/04/2022 7:22 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 15/04/2022 5:14 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>>>> **Your failure to read the Greens' policy documents is noted.
>>>>
>>>> Lol :)
>>>>
>>>> When you do this you remind me a lot of Paul Saccani. He used to do
>>>> this all the time in that he would assume that, as he could never be
>>>> wrong, then whoever didn't agree with him must simply not understand
>>>> what was being discussed :)
>>>>
>>>> It's just as funny when you do it, too :)
>>>
>>> **What is sad, is that you have failed to read the Greens' policy
>>> documents.
>>
>> Oh, I've read them Trevor.
>
> Sure you have Fraudster. I believe you. Honest.
>
He couldn't have read them *and* fully comprehended them since they
would be intended for a reading level way above year 8 - and Darren has
issues at that level as he proves time and time again.

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On 16/4/2022 6:28 am, alvey wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 20:40:28 +1000, Noddy wrote:
>
> snip stoopid
>
> Fraudster thinks he should be a Lib voter because that's who amoral,
> money-grubbing business types vote for. Y'see he believes his own lie that
> he was a businessman (as well as a Spanner Superstar), and not the
> broom-pusher he actually was. It's simple role-reinforcement.
>
>
>
> alvey
>
He could have been a *spanner hand* otherwise known as a Trades
Assistant (TA) with just enough intelligence to pick the correct
spanners from the toolbox and *hand* them to the *real tradesman*.

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On 16/04/2022 6:20 am, alvey wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 21:04:38 +1000, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>
>> On 15/04/2022 4:13 pm, alvey wrote:
>>> On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 13:56:43 +1000, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 15/04/2022 12:20 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 11:27:49 +1000, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 15/04/2022 11:07 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>> On 15/04/2022 9:04 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 15/04/2022 6:54 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 22:00:51 +1000, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 14/04/2022 7:58 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/04/2022 5:41 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/04/2022 10:15 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Appalling:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://chaser.com.au/national/an-exhaustive-list-of-the-liberal-partys-corruption-over-the-last-7-years/?fbclid=IwAR2Ac3-VOZ2OBt2PL3aHEZSEbYBeig78oZCG6zqE7lidgWMc04am5_NwP40
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ROTFL :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   From one of the world's most credible media outlets :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> **Then feel free to disprove the claims.
>>>>>>>>>> Sorry Trevor. That would take *way* more energy than I'd ever be
>>>>>>>>>> willing
>>>>>>>>>> to commit to the exercise.
>>>>>>>>> There he goes folks. Galloping down the well-worn Runaway Track.
>>>>>>>> he's just not interested. no shame in that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah there is when you're claiming bias. There is no bias, they're facts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As usual gutless Derro runs away after making a statement he can't
>>>>>>> back up. Typical.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> but i'll bet a similar list could easily be made for any period Labor
>>>>>> was in office
>>>>> Unless you're going to supply it felix then you're as bad as Fraudster for
>>>>> claiming something which you then refuse to substantiate.
>>>>>
>>>> wrong. an opinion doesn't require proof.
>>> Wronger. "...i'll bet a similar list could easily be made..." is a
>>> statement *not* an opinion,
>> wrongerer. it's an opinion.  "I'll bet" qualifies my statement and makes
>> it opinion.
> Wrongerest. "I'll bet" does no such thing. If anything it reinforces that
> the sentence is a statement.

wrongerestering. it's not a statement of fact! it's not something that
needs to be proven. it's speculation/opinion/belief. if you tell me you
can do something and I say "I bet you can't", I'm not saying you cannot,
I'm saying I don't believe you can. if I had just said "you can't" that
would be a claim that you cannot do it.

>
>>> and a fact is a statement that can be proven True or False.
>> even if it weren't opinion, I would still not need to substantiate it
>> unless I wished to prove it to be true.
> Whoa there young felix! You're getting deeper into Fraudster territory.
>
> As your statement stands, it is possibly defaming the Fed ALP, so it
> *could* be up to you prove it whether you wished to or not. The way lesser
> alternative is that you emulate Gubbins in that you're making a bold claim
> and then refusing to substantiate it. Do you really want to be in that
> company?
>
> <snip silly>
>
>
> alvey
>

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On 15/04/2022 4:06 pm, alvey wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 14:52:36 +1000, Daryl wrote:
>
>> On 15/4/2022 12:29 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>
>>> **700-odd deaths in federally controlled aged care facilities.
>> What makes you think that the Federal Govt could have done anything
>> about that or that a Labor Govt would have done anything different?
>
> snip
>
>>> * Giving huge chunks of money to companies that weren't suffering under
>>> COVID restrictions.
>>> * Not trying to claw back the money.
>> Agree they didn't do a great job there and were too generous but not
>> only with companies, individuals also got handouts they didn't need or
>> deserve.
>> What makes you think that Labor would have done differently or better?
> Ahhhh, the classic True Believer. Or, as they're also known, The Compleat
> Idiot. "Yes, my mob stuffed up there, but the other clowns would have been
> even worse!". You can't argue with a mind capable of this level of
> stupidity. It's like a club not wanting to change the players or coach
> after a hat-trick of wooden spoons because, "no-one could have done any
> better".
>

regardless of how bad (or not) the libs have performed, there's no way
anyone can know or prove we would be better off now if Labor had been in
office

>
> alvey
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On 16/04/2022 10:34 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 15/04/2022 4:06 pm, alvey wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 14:52:36 +1000, Daryl wrote:
>>
>>> On 15/4/2022 12:29 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>
>>>> **700-odd deaths in federally controlled aged care facilities.
>>> What makes you think that the Federal Govt could have done anything
>>> about that or that a Labor Govt would have done anything different?
>> snip
>>
>>>> * Giving huge chunks of money to companies that weren't suffering under
>>>> COVID restrictions.
>>>> * Not trying to claw back the money.
>>> Agree they didn't do a great job there and were too generous but not
>>> only with companies, individuals also got handouts they didn't need or
>>> deserve.
>>> What makes you think that Labor would have done differently or better?
>> Ahhhh, the classic True Believer. Or, as they're also known, The Compleat
>> Idiot. "Yes, my mob stuffed up there, but the other clowns would have
>> been
>> even worse!". You can't argue with a mind capable of this level of
>> stupidity. It's like a club not wanting to change the players or coach
>> after a hat-trick of wooden spoons because, "no-one could have done any
>> better".
>>
>
> regardless of how bad (or not) the libs have performed, there's no way
> anyone can know or prove we would be better off now if Labor had been in
> office

**Of course. However, as my list attests, the COALition has engaged is
MASSIVE and sustained acts of corruption.

Answer me this: Why would you (or anyone) reward these cunts with
another 3 years?

When you have a child who lies, steals and commits various acts of
cuntishness, do you punish them?

The COALition does not deserve another 3 years. To reward them with
such, would be to tacitly allow them to be even worse next time.