Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 02:20:23 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Monday, 11 April 2022 at 13:36:55 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>> On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 01:55:40 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 15:40:10 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>> >> On Sat, 9 Apr 2022 22:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 03:00:33 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>> >> >> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 15:09:44 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >On Thursday, 7 April 2022 at 06:37:38 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>>> >> >> >> On Thu, 07 Apr 2022 05:51:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> >> >> >> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMzZ_lVHv_A
>>> >> >> >> >> Mersheimer sounds reasonable.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >Bullshit he does. The Ukraine is just the most recent in the
>>> >> >> >> >series of Chechnya, Georgia, the Crimea and now the Ukraine.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >Nothing to do with NATO.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> Putin's claim was the invasion, he denied was going to
>>> happen, was
>>> >> >> >> because the Ukraine was going to join NATO?
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >Yes, if you go through the video you will see that is exactly
>>> the case.
>>> >> >> >NATO was trying to get Georgia into its orbit, and that was
>>> stopped earlier by Putin.
>>> >> >> >Then Ukraine too. Trump armed them.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Yet, but not enough, even so, they are kicking Russian butts.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Just annoying them with the javelins and stingers.
>>> >> >Russia is not treating them so far like the USAns treated Vietnam
>>> or Japan.
>>> >> >But as Mersheimer says, they will if they think they have to.
>>> >> Russia is a nation of pussies and Putin is the next Hitler of this
>>> >> century with his attacks on civilians.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> To the Marxist freedom is a threat.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Yes, but the Russians are not Marxists.
>>> >> >They are religious nationalists.
>>> >> I can see that as the Russian Orthodox Church is pure evil.
>>> >
>>> >No. I don't think so.
>>> Yes it is. Evil is at its core.
>>
>> I will bet they will think the same about your sect whatever that is.
>
> I don't have a sect.
>>
>>> >They are passionate and idealistic. They take Christianity in the
>>> original sense, in the spirit of self-sacrifice, so they are not
>>> materialistic. They are spiritual. Very serious; too much so, perhaps.
>>> >That may not suit the modern atheists, materialists, selfish-greedy
>>> sorts; and as they are so different from the ROC, there is tension.
>>> >As to who is evil, and who is good, is impossible to say off-hand
>>> unless we are talking about known devils like Bush2: used 911
>>> explosions to fund his mates in wars and invasions.
>>> >In certain positions one lot is good, and in other positions evil.
>>> Depends upon point of view. A terrorist to one, is a hero to another.
>>> They are evil and should be destroyed.
>>
>> You can try. Chaps who tried have not been too successful so far.
>> Except the Mongols, but that was a while ago.
>>
>>> >> >Quite the opposite of Marxism.
>>> >> Not in ethics.
>>> >
>>> >In all its entirety, Western "civilization" (if that ever happens it
>>> will be a good idea - as Gandhi once mentioned) has no use for ethics
>>> for its own sake. It is based upon law and opportunism. Wars and
>>> divorces are the natural outcomes.
>>> >Marxism is the least ethical, true.
>>> Nope.
>>
>> They do not believe in ethics. For them the notion of right or wrong
>> based upon traditional beliefs is conditioning of the lower classes by
>> the higher classes, for the latter to keep the former docile.
>> They believe in classes, class struggle, class enemy and dictatorship
>> of the proletariat. Well, the last one turns into a dictatorship quite
>> fast
>> Other sects have faith, and usually there are aspects in the faith such
>> as the ten commandments that have basis in ethics.
>>
>>> >Other Western religions support ethics when it suits. They are based
>>> upon belief, relating to salvation in the afterlife - not ethics.
>>> Ethics is not fundamental - never was even in their pagan times.
>>> >They are not Indian yet!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > > BTW, did you see that picture
>>> >> >> of Putin on a horse? Putin needs a bra, big time.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >He tries to project the opposite of the drunken swine image.
>>> >> He looks like a pregnant pig with those tits. Rather disgusting.
>>> >Yeltsin was preferable to him, what?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> BTW thought progressives and Marxists said Trump was in Putin's
>>> >> >> pocket?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Who knows. I thought he was in Twitter's tweeting.
>>> >> >When that balloon burst, he was stuffed.
>>> >> Trump is a idiot, he also let the media control him and get him
>>> >> going. Ego problem but then Putin has that also.
>>> >
>>> >Trump has some genuine American qualities, that I admire.
>>> >I saw a photo of him handling the luggage of some guests to one of
>>> his hotels.
>>> >Now that is what made America what it was. Scums have taken over -
>>> totally - quite recently.
>>> >My respects for him. He is USA's best hope.
>>> >Biden is also good - at least he has not started a nuclear war yet
>>> and what more can one expect from any potus?
>>
>>> Putin the freak made threats of Nuclear war and he is one sick
>>> bastard. Maybe one of his own people will kill Putin off.
>>
>> I doubt it. They probably feel more safe now that Ukraine will not get
>> nukes.
>
> Who said they were going to get Nukes? They had nukes and gave them
> up.
>
>> Chances of WW3 is now less.
>> It is Zelensky that is asking for a world war, which if it happens will
>> not just be nuclear. There are weapons like Covid and even worse
>> viruses that could be set loose.
>> Putin has a 80% approval rate, going by Gorbachov and that is backed by
>> my experience while touring Russia.

> Putin is a war criminal and a freak and a total liar.

So is Trump.

> Russia doesn't have a free press.

It never has had.

> Then again to disagree with Putin will get
> you 15 years in jail or killed.

More of your mindless bullshit with that woman
who held up a placard behind the news reader.

>> Did Lincoln have a 80% approval rate in the North when he started the
>> civil war?
>> Napoleon had a high approval rate. So did Hitler before WW2.
>> Don't know what will happen. Putin is taking strict security measures,
>> so any assassin sent by your gods gotta be really good at his job. At
>> least as good as Jason Bourne, etc. Will life follow "art"?
>
> What gods? Putin is a freak.
>>> >
>>> >Cheers,
>>> >Arindam Banerjee
>>> >> >> >

Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote

> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 14:41:48 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>>> On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 02:04:29 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 15:40:10 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 9 Apr 2022 22:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 03:00:33 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>> >> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 15:09:44 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> >On Thursday, 7 April 2022 at 06:37:38 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>>>>> >> >> On Thu, 07 Apr 2022 05:51:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> >> >> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMzZ_lVHv_A
>>>>> >> >> >> Mersheimer sounds reasonable.
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >Bullshit he does. The Ukraine is just the most recent in the
>>>>> >> >> >series of Chechnya, Georgia, the Crimea and now the Ukraine.
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >Nothing to do with NATO.
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> Putin's claim was the invasion, he denied was going to happen,
>>>>> was
>>>>> >> >> because the Ukraine was going to join NATO?
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >Yes, if you go through the video you will see that is exactly the
>>>>> case.
>>>>> >> >NATO was trying to get Georgia into its orbit, and that was
>>>>> stopped earlier by Putin.
>>>>> >> >Then Ukraine too. Trump armed them.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Yet, but not enough, even so, they are kicking Russian butts.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Just annoying them with the javelins and stingers.
>>>>> >Russia is not treating them so far like the USAns treated Vietnam or
>>>>> Japan.
>>>>> >But as Mersheimer says, they will if they think they have to.
>>>>> Russia is a nation of pussies and Putin is the next Hitler of this
>>>>> century with his attacks on civilians.
>>>>
>>>> Russia lost 20 million in the WW2 and if there is a WW3 with nukes,
>>>> which is what Zelensky is asking for, they may lose 30-40 million.
>>>> Putin is attacking Ukraine to prevent that catastrophe.
>>>> The fool Zelensky has asked civilians to fight the Russians. Throw
>>>> Molotov cocktails. He is fighting behind the civilians, so Putin says.
>>>> Obviously civilians will get killed in such strategies. They should be
>>>> evacuated.
>>>> Sad, but rather you than I, is what Putin may say. Very american,
>>>> what?
>>>
>>>
>>> Putin is a freak, a very ugly freak, his policies that he is
>>> showing now, show he is much like Hitler and the Nazis.
>>
>> No more so than Stalin.

> You believe that excuses war crimes and bombing that train station?

Nope.

>>> If he dies tomorrow the world will be a better place.
>>
>> That depends on who replaces him.

> True.

>>>>> >> To the Marxist freedom is a threat.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Yes, but the Russians are not Marxists.
>>>>> >They are religious nationalists.
>>>>> I can see that as the Russian Orthodox Church is pure evil.
>>>>> >Quite the opposite of Marxism.
>>>>> Not in ethics.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > BTW, did you see that picture
>>>>> >> of Putin on a horse? Putin needs a bra, big time.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >He tries to project the opposite of the drunken swine image.
>>>>> He looks like a pregnant pig with those tits. Rather disgusting.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> BTW thought progressives and Marxists said Trump was in Putin's
>>>>> >> pocket?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Who knows. I thought he was in Twitter's tweeting.
>>>>> >When that balloon burst, he was stuffed.
>>>>> Trump is a idiot, he also let the media control him and get him
>>>>> going. Ego problem but then Putin has that also.
>>>>> >> >

Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote

> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 04:02:51 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Monday, 11 April 2022 at 13:33:45 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>> On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 02:04:29 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 15:40:10 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>> >> On Sat, 9 Apr 2022 22:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 03:00:33 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>> >> >> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 15:09:44 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >On Thursday, 7 April 2022 at 06:37:38 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>>> >> >> >> On Thu, 07 Apr 2022 05:51:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> >> >> >> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMzZ_lVHv_A
>>> >> >> >> >> Mersheimer sounds reasonable.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >Bullshit he does. The Ukraine is just the most recent in the
>>> >> >> >> >series of Chechnya, Georgia, the Crimea and now the Ukraine.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >Nothing to do with NATO.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> Putin's claim was the invasion, he denied was going to
>>> happen, was
>>> >> >> >> because the Ukraine was going to join NATO?
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >Yes, if you go through the video you will see that is exactly
>>> the case.
>>> >> >> >NATO was trying to get Georgia into its orbit, and that was
>>> stopped earlier by Putin.
>>> >> >> >Then Ukraine too. Trump armed them.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Yet, but not enough, even so, they are kicking Russian butts.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Just annoying them with the javelins and stingers.
>>> >> >Russia is not treating them so far like the USAns treated Vietnam
>>> or Japan.
>>> >> >But as Mersheimer says, they will if they think they have to.
>>> >> Russia is a nation of pussies and Putin is the next Hitler of this
>>> >> century with his attacks on civilians.
>>> >
>>> >Russia lost 20 million in the WW2 and if there is a WW3 with nukes,
>>> which is what Zelensky is asking for, they may lose 30-40 million.
>>> >Putin is attacking Ukraine to prevent that catastrophe.
>>> >The fool Zelensky has asked civilians to fight the Russians. Throw
>>> Molotov cocktails. He is fighting behind the civilians, so Putin says.
>>> >Obviously civilians will get killed in such strategies. They should
>>> be evacuated.
>>> >Sad, but rather you than I, is what Putin may say. Very american,
>>> what?
>>
>>> Putin is a freak, a very ugly freak, his policies that he is
>>> showing now, show he is much like Hitler and the Nazis.
>>
>> He is, and has been, the International Hero fighting against the
>> leaders of the soulless, cunning, racist and bigoted
>> capitalist-imperialist-murderous-enslaving Western European countries
>> and the US.
>> Hitler and Putin do have some similarities such as popularity and
>> nationalism.
>
> Putin is a rather stupid freak.

He has managed a hell of a lot more than you have.

Or Trump has too.

>> Putin is much smarter than Hitler, who made too many mistakes.

> No, Putin is an idiot and a freak.

He has managed a hell of a lot more than you have.

Or Trump has too.

>> How is the US better than Nazis? The US has caused the deaths of many
>> millions of civilians in Vietnam, Cambodia, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan
>> and Libya.
>
> OK
>
>> Hitler was fighting for survival against Communism. He had no quarrel
>> with US and UK, but the capitalists there combined with the communists
>> to defeat him.
>
> Sorry, Hitler was the one who attacked the UK

Nope, the poms declared war after he invaded Poland.

> and he did declare war on the USA.

And attacked US shipping.

> Who knows what might have happened if he hadn't joined Japan.

An even quick loss.

> Hitler and Putin were/are egotistical freaks.

And so is Trump.

>> Hitler should not have lost, and would not have, had he not attacked
>> USSR. That was a fatal mistake, totally unnecessary. The Communism he
>> was fighting before the got power was actually Trotskyism, which had
>> created havoc in Russia; but Stalinists had already defeated them in a
>> civil war.
>
> They were getting their asses kicked before the west came to their
> aid.

But they would have won anyway, just not as quickly.

>> Putin, like Hitler, is fighting for Russian interests in security
>> matters. No nukes in Ukraine, is his main desire and cause for invasion.

> Putin is a lying sack of shit,

And so is Trump.

> at one time Ukraine had nukes of its own.

Nope, they were russian nukes.

> Their mistake was giving them up and trusting others.

Yep.

> Putin wants the old USSR that filed back

Nope, that is never going to be possible now.

> and he will fail again as his economy is failing.

> He got his ass kick out of the Kiev area.

>> The US kills for its own gains, like so many bandits. Talking of
>> freaks, none freakier than Bush2.

> I agree that Bush Jr was a total idiot when he went into Iraq.

>>> If he dies tomorrow the world will be a better place.
>>
>> No doubt the US will try to get its puppets in power in Moscow after
>> that, in order to loot Russian wealth.
>
> What wealth the State of Texas has a economy bigger than Russia.
> Russia is a third rate country now.

It always has been.

>> That worked in Ukraine in 2014, after the coup.
>> Well, that would mean cheap goods for the West, and profits for their
>> rich scums.
>> Certainly the world will be a better place for those affiliated with
>> the Washington Swamp and Deep State.
>> And there are so many of them.
>> So they want Putin dead.
>> Who knows what will happen!
>> Just that, Putin is no Saddam or Gaddafi.
>> And he has plenty of nukes.
>
> Yes he does but so does the west. There use by either side would
> be stupid.
>>
>>> >> >> To the Marxist freedom is a threat.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Yes, but the Russians are not Marxists.
>>> >> >They are religious nationalists.
>>> >> I can see that as the Russian Orthodox Church is pure evil.
>>> >> >Quite the opposite of Marxism.
>>> >> Not in ethics.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > > BTW, did you see that picture
>>> >> >> of Putin on a horse? Putin needs a bra, big time.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >He tries to project the opposite of the drunken swine image.
>>> >> He looks like a pregnant pig with those tits. Rather disgusting.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> BTW thought progressives and Marxists said Trump was in Putin's
>>> >> >> pocket?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Who knows. I thought he was in Twitter's tweeting.
>>> >> >When that balloon burst, he was stuffed.
>>> >> Trump is a idiot, he also let the media control him and get him
>>> >> going. Ego problem but then Putin has that also.
>>> >> >> >

Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote

>>>>>>>>>> Putin's claim was the invasion, he denied was going to happen,
>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> because the Ukraine was going to join NATO?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, if you go through the video you will see that is exactly the
>>>>>>>>> case.
>>>>>>>>> NATO was trying to get Georgia into its orbit, and that was
>>>>>>>>> stopped
>>>>>>>>> earlier by Putin.
>>>>>>>>> Then Ukraine too. Trump armed them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yet, but not enough, even so, they are kicking Russian butts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To the Marxist freedom is a threat. BTW, did you see that
>>>>>>>> picture
>>>>>>>> of Putin on a horse? Putin needs a bra, big time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Both Putin and Biden are photo shopped to hell
>>>>>>> https://www.vox.com/2015/6/17/8796659/vladimir-putin-shirtless-video
>>>>>>> Putin has had a breast reduction (he's been on steroids for years)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is sad.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Putin has always been a bullying thug.
>>>>> His installed crime gang stole all profitable industry and murdered
>>>>> those who had legitimate claim to them.
>>>>> <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/13/russia-putin-german-right-hand-man-matthias-warnig>
>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/y9aeg2xr
>>>>> Circles of power: Putin's secret friendship with ex-Stasi officer
>>>>> After revelations of Russian president’s links to former chancellor
>>>>> Gerhard Schröder, investigation sheds light on relationship with
>>>>> influential German businessman
>>>>>
>>>>> Bidens crime gang no different
>>>>
>>>> Very different, Biden has never had anyone murdered.
>>
>>> Are you sure?
>>
>> Yep, if he had done, it would have been all over the news, just like
>> Putin's was.

> Putin is a idiot.

So is Trump.

> If Biden had someone killed they would report it as a suicide.

Bullshit, the press would be all over it. No one would believe the report.

>> As Obama admitted, Biden fucks up everything he is ever involved in.
>>
>>>>> <https://welovetrump.com/2022/04/08/us-banks-flagged-more-than-150-biden-family-business-transactions/>
>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/ya7tjoun
>>>>
>>>> Just because some stupid trumpet claims something...
>>>>
>>>>> CBS digs into Hunter, James Biden scandal:Over 150 'concerning' bank
>>>>> transactions
>>>>
>>>> Be concerned, no one actually cares, they made him president anyway..
>>>>
>>>>>>> Biden has to have a pole stuck up his ass to stand up straight
>>>>>>> They even have a cosmetic mask put on the lying POS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BTW thought progressives and Marxists said Trump was in Putin's
>>>>>>>> pocket?

On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 05:54:31 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>
>>>>>>>>>>> Putin's claim was the invasion, he denied was going to happen,
>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>> because the Ukraine was going to join NATO?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, if you go through the video you will see that is exactly the
>>>>>>>>>> case.
>>>>>>>>>> NATO was trying to get Georgia into its orbit, and that was
>>>>>>>>>> stopped
>>>>>>>>>> earlier by Putin.
>>>>>>>>>> Then Ukraine too. Trump armed them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yet, but not enough, even so, they are kicking Russian butts.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To the Marxist freedom is a threat. BTW, did you see that
>>>>>>>>> picture
>>>>>>>>> of Putin on a horse? Putin needs a bra, big time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Both Putin and Biden are photo shopped to hell
>>>>>>>> https://www.vox.com/2015/6/17/8796659/vladimir-putin-shirtless-video
>>>>>>>> Putin has had a breast reduction (he's been on steroids for years)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is sad.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Putin has always been a bullying thug.
>>>>>> His installed crime gang stole all profitable industry and murdered
>>>>>> those who had legitimate claim to them.
>>>>>> <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/13/russia-putin-german-right-hand-man-matthias-warnig>
>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/y9aeg2xr
>>>>>> Circles of power: Putin's secret friendship with ex-Stasi officer
>>>>>> After revelations of Russian president’s links to former chancellor
>>>>>> Gerhard Schröder, investigation sheds light on relationship with
>>>>>> influential German businessman
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bidens crime gang no different
>>>>>
>>>>> Very different, Biden has never had anyone murdered.
>>>
>>>> Are you sure?
>>>
>>> Yep, if he had done, it would have been all over the news, just like
>>> Putin's was.
>
>> Putin is a idiot.
>
>So is Trump.

Agree.
>
>> If Biden had someone killed they would report it as a suicide.
>
>Bullshit, the press would be all over it. No one would believe the report.

Fox might be all over it. The liberal media lied about Hunter's
laptop right before the election and are just now admitting it. Social
media banned people from even talking about it before the election.
Sorry, what you describe is done more on the left.
>
>>> As Obama admitted, Biden fucks up everything he is ever involved in.
>>>
>>>>>> <https://welovetrump.com/2022/04/08/us-banks-flagged-more-than-150-biden-family-business-transactions/>
>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/ya7tjoun
>>>>>
>>>>> Just because some stupid trumpet claims something...
>>>>>
>>>>>> CBS digs into Hunter, James Biden scandal:Over 150 'concerning' bank
>>>>>> transactions
>>>>>
>>>>> Be concerned, no one actually cares, they made him president anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Biden has to have a pole stuck up his ass to stand up straight
>>>>>>>> They even have a cosmetic mask put on the lying POS
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BTW thought progressives and Marxists said Trump was in Putin's
>>>>>>>>> pocket?

On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 05:37:30 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>
>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 14:50:55 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 16:39:38 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 15:40:04 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Apr 2022 22:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 03:00:33 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 15:09:44 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >On Thursday, 7 April 2022 at 06:37:38 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>>>>>>>> >> On Thu, 07 Apr 2022 05:51:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>> >> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMzZ_lVHv_A
>>>>>>>> >> >> Mersheimer sounds reasonable.
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> >Bullshit he does. The Ukraine is just the most recent in the
>>>>>>>> >> >series of Chechnya, Georgia, the Crimea and now the Ukraine.
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> >Nothing to do with NATO.
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> Putin's claim was the invasion, he denied was going to happen,
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>> >> because the Ukraine was going to join NATO?
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >Yes, if you go through the video you will see that is exactly the
>>>>>>>> case.
>>>>>>>> >NATO was trying to get Georgia into its orbit, and that was
>>>>>>>> stopped
>>>>>>>> earlier by Putin.
>>>>>>>> >Then Ukraine too. Trump armed them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yet, but not enough, even so, they are kicking Russian butts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just annoying them with the javelins and stingers.
>>>>>>> Russia is not treating them so far like the USAns treated Vietnam or
>>>>>>> Japan.
>>>>>>> But as Mersheimer says, they will if they think they have to.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Russia is a nation of pussies
>>>>>
>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>
>>>> Yes they are. Its military is second rate if it wasn't for the
>>>> nukes they would be a joke.
>>>
>>> How odd that they did so well at Stalingrad, before
>>> you buggers had even showed up in europe.
>>
>> That was in the 1940s. You really are old. OK, Putin's military
>> is a bunch of effeminate pussies.
>
>They have done a lot better than you clowns did in Afghanistan.

I admit Bush JR is a joke.
>
>>>>>> and Putin is the next Hitler of this century
>>>
>>>>> Nope, he won't be that stupid, you watch.
>>>
>>>> His actions on limiting free press and bombing that train station
>>>> show he is evil to the core.
>>>
>>> Separate matter entirely to whether he is the next Hitler of this
>>> century.
>>
>> His actions are not important?
>
>Never said that, fuckwit.
>
>> WOW
>
>You are pathetic.
>
>>> He isn't even a ruthless as Stalin.
>>
>> Now that makes since, the current day Russia is not the USSR.
>
>You quite sure you aren't one of those rocket scientist terminal fuckwits ?
>
>>>>>> with his attacks on civilians.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To the Marxist freedom is a threat.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, but the Russians are not Marxists.
>>>>>>> They are religious nationalists.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I can see that as the Russian Orthodox Church is pure evil.
>>>>>
>>>>> More of your mindless bullshit.
>>>
>>>> That Church needs to be destroyed.
>>>
>>> Not even possible. Even Stalin couldn't manage that.
>>
>> Didn't say it would be easy.
>
>Not even possible.
>
>>> That's the problem with you stupid god botherers,
>>> even a full holocaust can't get rid of you all.
>
>> The USSR was a atheist state as is China and North Korea, Atheism
>> also shows great evil.
>
>You are a terminal fuckwit.

You are unbalanced, even for a far leftist OZZY.
>
>>>>>>> Quite the opposite of Marxism.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Not in ethics.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> > BTW, did you see that picture
>>>>>>>> of Putin on a horse? Putin needs a bra, big time.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> He tries to project the opposite of the drunken swine image.
>>>>>
>>>>>> He looks like a pregnant pig with those tits. Rather disgusting.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BTW thought progressives and Marxists said Trump was in Putin's
>>>>>>>> pocket?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who knows. I thought he was in Twitter's tweeting.
>>>>>>> When that balloon burst, he was stuffed.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Trump is a idiot, he also let the media control him and get him
>>>>>> going. Ego problem but then Putin has that also.

On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 05:41:41 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>
>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 14:46:04 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 01:55:40 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 15:40:10 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Apr 2022 22:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 03:00:33 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>>> >> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 15:09:44 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> >On Thursday, 7 April 2022 at 06:37:38 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>>>>>> >> >> On Thu, 07 Apr 2022 05:51:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>> >> >> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> >Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMzZ_lVHv_A
>>>>>> >> >> >> Mersheimer sounds reasonable.
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> >Bullshit he does. The Ukraine is just the most recent in the
>>>>>> >> >> >series of Chechnya, Georgia, the Crimea and now the Ukraine.
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> >Nothing to do with NATO.
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> Putin's claim was the invasion, he denied was going to happen,
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> >> >> because the Ukraine was going to join NATO?
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >Yes, if you go through the video you will see that is exactly the
>>>>>> case.
>>>>>> >> >NATO was trying to get Georgia into its orbit, and that was
>>>>>> stopped earlier by Putin.
>>>>>> >> >Then Ukraine too. Trump armed them.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Yet, but not enough, even so, they are kicking Russian butts.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Just annoying them with the javelins and stingers.
>>>>>> >Russia is not treating them so far like the USAns treated Vietnam or
>>>>>> Japan.
>>>>>> >But as Mersheimer says, they will if they think they have to.
>>>>>> Russia is a nation of pussies and Putin is the next Hitler of this
>>>>>> century with his attacks on civilians.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> To the Marxist freedom is a threat.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Yes, but the Russians are not Marxists.
>>>>>> >They are religious nationalists.
>>>>>> I can see that as the Russian Orthodox Church is pure evil.
>>>>>
>>>>> No. I don't think so.
>>>
>>>> Yes it is. Evil is at its core.
>>>
>>> Bullshit. The most they did is self preservation.
>
>> Why would they support what is going on in Ukraine and how is that
>> self-preservation?
>
>The self preservation was way back when Stalin was trying to stamp them
>out, stupid.

What has that to do with today?

>
>Nothing evil about that.
>
>You are just another arsehole god botherer that
>wants to stamp out any other god botherers
>whose stupid cult is different in detail to yours.
>
>>>>> They are passionate and idealistic. They take Christianity in the
>>>>> original sense, in the spirit of self-sacrifice, so they are not
>>>>> materialistic. They are spiritual. Very serious; too much so, perhaps.
>>>>> That may not suit the modern atheists, materialists, selfish-greedy
>>>>> sorts; and as they are so different from the ROC, there is tension.
>>>>> As to who is evil, and who is good, is impossible to say off-hand
>>>>> unless we are talking about known devils like Bush2: used 911
>>>>> explosions to fund his mates in wars and invasions.
>>>>> In certain positions one lot is good, and in other positions evil.
>>>>> Depends upon point of view. A terrorist to one, is a hero to another.
>>>
>>>> They are evil and should be destroyed.
>>>
>>> Not even possible.
>>>
>>>>>> >Quite the opposite of Marxism.
>>>>>> Not in ethics.
>>>>>
>>>>> In all its entirety, Western "civilization" (if that ever happens it
>>>>> will be a good idea - as Gandhi once mentioned) has no use for ethics
>>>>> for its own sake. It is based upon law and opportunism. Wars and
>>>>> divorces are the natural outcomes.
>>>>> Marxism is the least ethical, true.
>>>
>>>> Nope.
>>>
>>>>> Other Western religions support ethics when it suits. They are based
>>>>> upon belief, relating to salvation in the afterlife - not ethics.
>>>>> Ethics is not fundamental - never was even in their pagan times.
>>>>> They are not Indian yet!
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > > BTW, did you see that picture
>>>>>> >> of Putin on a horse? Putin needs a bra, big time.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >He tries to project the opposite of the drunken swine image.
>>>>>> He looks like a pregnant pig with those tits. Rather disgusting.
>>>>> Yeltsin was preferable to him, what?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> BTW thought progressives and Marxists said Trump was in Putin's
>>>>>> >> pocket?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Who knows. I thought he was in Twitter's tweeting.
>>>>>> >When that balloon burst, he was stuffed.
>>>>>> Trump is a idiot, he also let the media control him and get him
>>>>>> going. Ego problem but then Putin has that also.
>>>>>
>>>>> Trump has some genuine American qualities, that I admire.
>>>>> I saw a photo of him handling the luggage of some guests to one of his
>>>>> hotels.
>>>>> Now that is what made America what it was. Scums have taken over -
>>>>> totally - quite recently.
>>>>> My respects for him. He is USA's best hope.
>>>>> Biden is also good - at least he has not started a nuclear war yet and
>>>>> what more can one expect from any potus?
>>>
>>>> Putin the freak made threats of Nuclear war
>>>
>>> Only fools are actually stupid enough to believe that he is actually
>>> stupid enough to do it.
>>
>> That is if he is completely sane. Maybe he and Biden both have
>> dementia.
>
>Neither do.

Sure.
>
>>>> and he is one sick bastard. Maybe one of his own people will kill
>>>> Putin off.
>>>
>>> Rather unlikely that Putin is actually stupid enough to allow that to
>>> happen.
>>
>> Time will tell.
>
>Time has told, no one has actually been stupid enough to try it.
>
>Plenty did with Hitler.

Hitler and Nuclear war? Tell us more.

On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 05:44:04 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 02:20:23 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, 11 April 2022 at 13:36:55 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 01:55:40 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 15:40:10 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>> >> On Sat, 9 Apr 2022 22:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 03:00:33 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>> >> >> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 15:09:44 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >On Thursday, 7 April 2022 at 06:37:38 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> On Thu, 07 Apr 2022 05:51:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>> >> >> >> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> >Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMzZ_lVHv_A
>>>> >> >> >> >> Mersheimer sounds reasonable.
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >Bullshit he does. The Ukraine is just the most recent in the
>>>> >> >> >> >series of Chechnya, Georgia, the Crimea and now the Ukraine.
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >Nothing to do with NATO.
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> Putin's claim was the invasion, he denied was going to
>>>> happen, was
>>>> >> >> >> because the Ukraine was going to join NATO?
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >Yes, if you go through the video you will see that is exactly
>>>> the case.
>>>> >> >> >NATO was trying to get Georgia into its orbit, and that was
>>>> stopped earlier by Putin.
>>>> >> >> >Then Ukraine too. Trump armed them.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Yet, but not enough, even so, they are kicking Russian butts.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >Just annoying them with the javelins and stingers.
>>>> >> >Russia is not treating them so far like the USAns treated Vietnam
>>>> or Japan.
>>>> >> >But as Mersheimer says, they will if they think they have to.
>>>> >> Russia is a nation of pussies and Putin is the next Hitler of this
>>>> >> century with his attacks on civilians.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> To the Marxist freedom is a threat.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >Yes, but the Russians are not Marxists.
>>>> >> >They are religious nationalists.
>>>> >> I can see that as the Russian Orthodox Church is pure evil.
>>>> >
>>>> >No. I don't think so.
>>>> Yes it is. Evil is at its core.
>>>
>>> I will bet they will think the same about your sect whatever that is.
>>
>> I don't have a sect.
>>>
>>>> >They are passionate and idealistic. They take Christianity in the
>>>> original sense, in the spirit of self-sacrifice, so they are not
>>>> materialistic. They are spiritual. Very serious; too much so, perhaps.
>>>> >That may not suit the modern atheists, materialists, selfish-greedy
>>>> sorts; and as they are so different from the ROC, there is tension.
>>>> >As to who is evil, and who is good, is impossible to say off-hand
>>>> unless we are talking about known devils like Bush2: used 911
>>>> explosions to fund his mates in wars and invasions.
>>>> >In certain positions one lot is good, and in other positions evil.
>>>> Depends upon point of view. A terrorist to one, is a hero to another.
>>>> They are evil and should be destroyed.
>>>
>>> You can try. Chaps who tried have not been too successful so far.
>>> Except the Mongols, but that was a while ago.
>>>
>>>> >> >Quite the opposite of Marxism.
>>>> >> Not in ethics.
>>>> >
>>>> >In all its entirety, Western "civilization" (if that ever happens it
>>>> will be a good idea - as Gandhi once mentioned) has no use for ethics
>>>> for its own sake. It is based upon law and opportunism. Wars and
>>>> divorces are the natural outcomes.
>>>> >Marxism is the least ethical, true.
>>>> Nope.
>>>
>>> They do not believe in ethics. For them the notion of right or wrong
>>> based upon traditional beliefs is conditioning of the lower classes by
>>> the higher classes, for the latter to keep the former docile.
>>> They believe in classes, class struggle, class enemy and dictatorship
>>> of the proletariat. Well, the last one turns into a dictatorship quite
>>> fast
>>> Other sects have faith, and usually there are aspects in the faith such
>>> as the ten commandments that have basis in ethics.
>>>
>>>> >Other Western religions support ethics when it suits. They are based
>>>> upon belief, relating to salvation in the afterlife - not ethics.
>>>> Ethics is not fundamental - never was even in their pagan times.
>>>> >They are not Indian yet!
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > > BTW, did you see that picture
>>>> >> >> of Putin on a horse? Putin needs a bra, big time.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >He tries to project the opposite of the drunken swine image.
>>>> >> He looks like a pregnant pig with those tits. Rather disgusting.
>>>> >Yeltsin was preferable to him, what?
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> BTW thought progressives and Marxists said Trump was in Putin's
>>>> >> >> pocket?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >Who knows. I thought he was in Twitter's tweeting.
>>>> >> >When that balloon burst, he was stuffed.
>>>> >> Trump is a idiot, he also let the media control him and get him
>>>> >> going. Ego problem but then Putin has that also.
>>>> >
>>>> >Trump has some genuine American qualities, that I admire.
>>>> >I saw a photo of him handling the luggage of some guests to one of
>>>> his hotels.
>>>> >Now that is what made America what it was. Scums have taken over -
>>>> totally - quite recently.
>>>> >My respects for him. He is USA's best hope.
>>>> >Biden is also good - at least he has not started a nuclear war yet
>>>> and what more can one expect from any potus?
>>>
>>>> Putin the freak made threats of Nuclear war and he is one sick
>>>> bastard. Maybe one of his own people will kill Putin off.
>>>
>>> I doubt it. They probably feel more safe now that Ukraine will not get
>>> nukes.
>>
>> Who said they were going to get Nukes? They had nukes and gave them
>> up.
>>
>>> Chances of WW3 is now less.
>>> It is Zelensky that is asking for a world war, which if it happens will
>>> not just be nuclear. There are weapons like Covid and even worse
>>> viruses that could be set loose.
>>> Putin has a 80% approval rate, going by Gorbachov and that is backed by
>>> my experience while touring Russia.
>
>> Putin is a war criminal and a freak and a total liar.
>
>So is Trump.
>
>> Russia doesn't have a free press.
>
>It never has had.
>
>> Then again to disagree with Putin will get
>> you 15 years in jail or killed.
>
>More of your mindless bullshit with that woman
>who held up a placard behind the news reader.

On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 05:45:21 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>
>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 14:41:48 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 02:04:29 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 15:40:10 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Apr 2022 22:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 03:00:33 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>>> >> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 15:09:44 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> >On Thursday, 7 April 2022 at 06:37:38 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>>>>>> >> >> On Thu, 07 Apr 2022 05:51:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>> >> >> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> >Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMzZ_lVHv_A
>>>>>> >> >> >> Mersheimer sounds reasonable.
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> >Bullshit he does. The Ukraine is just the most recent in the
>>>>>> >> >> >series of Chechnya, Georgia, the Crimea and now the Ukraine.
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> >Nothing to do with NATO.
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> Putin's claim was the invasion, he denied was going to happen,
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> >> >> because the Ukraine was going to join NATO?
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >Yes, if you go through the video you will see that is exactly the
>>>>>> case.
>>>>>> >> >NATO was trying to get Georgia into its orbit, and that was
>>>>>> stopped earlier by Putin.
>>>>>> >> >Then Ukraine too. Trump armed them.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Yet, but not enough, even so, they are kicking Russian butts.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Just annoying them with the javelins and stingers.
>>>>>> >Russia is not treating them so far like the USAns treated Vietnam or
>>>>>> Japan.
>>>>>> >But as Mersheimer says, they will if they think they have to.
>>>>>> Russia is a nation of pussies and Putin is the next Hitler of this
>>>>>> century with his attacks on civilians.
>>>>>
>>>>> Russia lost 20 million in the WW2 and if there is a WW3 with nukes,
>>>>> which is what Zelensky is asking for, they may lose 30-40 million.
>>>>> Putin is attacking Ukraine to prevent that catastrophe.
>>>>> The fool Zelensky has asked civilians to fight the Russians. Throw
>>>>> Molotov cocktails. He is fighting behind the civilians, so Putin says.
>>>>> Obviously civilians will get killed in such strategies. They should be
>>>>> evacuated.
>>>>> Sad, but rather you than I, is what Putin may say. Very american,
>>>>> what?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Putin is a freak, a very ugly freak, his policies that he is
>>>> showing now, show he is much like Hitler and the Nazis.
>>>
>>> No more so than Stalin.
>
>> You believe that excuses war crimes and bombing that train station?
>
>Nope.

Then you are just trolling.
>
>>>> If he dies tomorrow the world will be a better place.
>>>
>>> That depends on who replaces him.
>
>> True.
>
>>>>>> >> To the Marxist freedom is a threat.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Yes, but the Russians are not Marxists.
>>>>>> >They are religious nationalists.
>>>>>> I can see that as the Russian Orthodox Church is pure evil.
>>>>>> >Quite the opposite of Marxism.
>>>>>> Not in ethics.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > > BTW, did you see that picture
>>>>>> >> of Putin on a horse? Putin needs a bra, big time.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >He tries to project the opposite of the drunken swine image.
>>>>>> He looks like a pregnant pig with those tits. Rather disgusting.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> BTW thought progressives and Marxists said Trump was in Putin's
>>>>>> >> pocket?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Who knows. I thought he was in Twitter's tweeting.
>>>>>> >When that balloon burst, he was stuffed.
>>>>>> Trump is a idiot, he also let the media control him and get him
>>>>>> going. Ego problem but then Putin has that also.
>>>>>> >> >

On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 05:52:24 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>
>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 04:02:51 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, 11 April 2022 at 13:33:45 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 02:04:29 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 15:40:10 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>> >> On Sat, 9 Apr 2022 22:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 03:00:33 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>> >> >> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 15:09:44 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >On Thursday, 7 April 2022 at 06:37:38 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> On Thu, 07 Apr 2022 05:51:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>> >> >> >> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> >Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMzZ_lVHv_A
>>>> >> >> >> >> Mersheimer sounds reasonable.
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >Bullshit he does. The Ukraine is just the most recent in the
>>>> >> >> >> >series of Chechnya, Georgia, the Crimea and now the Ukraine.
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >Nothing to do with NATO.
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> Putin's claim was the invasion, he denied was going to
>>>> happen, was
>>>> >> >> >> because the Ukraine was going to join NATO?
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >Yes, if you go through the video you will see that is exactly
>>>> the case.
>>>> >> >> >NATO was trying to get Georgia into its orbit, and that was
>>>> stopped earlier by Putin.
>>>> >> >> >Then Ukraine too. Trump armed them.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Yet, but not enough, even so, they are kicking Russian butts.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >Just annoying them with the javelins and stingers.
>>>> >> >Russia is not treating them so far like the USAns treated Vietnam
>>>> or Japan.
>>>> >> >But as Mersheimer says, they will if they think they have to.
>>>> >> Russia is a nation of pussies and Putin is the next Hitler of this
>>>> >> century with his attacks on civilians.
>>>> >
>>>> >Russia lost 20 million in the WW2 and if there is a WW3 with nukes,
>>>> which is what Zelensky is asking for, they may lose 30-40 million.
>>>> >Putin is attacking Ukraine to prevent that catastrophe.
>>>> >The fool Zelensky has asked civilians to fight the Russians. Throw
>>>> Molotov cocktails. He is fighting behind the civilians, so Putin says.
>>>> >Obviously civilians will get killed in such strategies. They should
>>>> be evacuated.
>>>> >Sad, but rather you than I, is what Putin may say. Very american,
>>>> what?
>>>
>>>> Putin is a freak, a very ugly freak, his policies that he is
>>>> showing now, show he is much like Hitler and the Nazis.
>>>
>>> He is, and has been, the International Hero fighting against the
>>> leaders of the soulless, cunning, racist and bigoted
>>> capitalist-imperialist-murderous-enslaving Western European countries
>>> and the US.
>>> Hitler and Putin do have some similarities such as popularity and
>>> nationalism.
>>
>> Putin is a rather stupid freak.
>
>He has managed a hell of a lot more than you have.
>
>Or Trump has too.

Trump is an idiot, Putin a freak, and you a Putin lover. Are you
planning a terrorist attack on OZ for aid they give to Ukraine?
>
>>> Putin is much smarter than Hitler, who made too many mistakes.
>
>> No, Putin is an idiot and a freak.
>
>He has managed a hell of a lot more than you have.
>
>Or Trump has too.
>
>>> How is the US better than Nazis? The US has caused the deaths of many
>>> millions of civilians in Vietnam, Cambodia, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan
>>> and Libya.
>>
>> OK
>>
>>> Hitler was fighting for survival against Communism. He had no quarrel
>>> with US and UK, but the capitalists there combined with the communists
>>> to defeat him.
>>
>> Sorry, Hitler was the one who attacked the UK
>
>Nope, the poms declared war after he invaded Poland.

Not the USA.
>
>> and he did declare war on the USA.
>
>And attacked US shipping.

True that he did.

>
>> Who knows what might have happened if he hadn't joined Japan.
>
>An even quick loss.
>
>> Hitler and Putin were/are egotistical freaks.
>
>And so is Trump.

True, you sure are focused on Trump. Trump is a idiot.
>
>>> Hitler should not have lost, and would not have, had he not attacked
>>> USSR. That was a fatal mistake, totally unnecessary. The Communism he
>>> was fighting before the got power was actually Trotskyism, which had
>>> created havoc in Russia; but Stalinists had already defeated them in a
>>> civil war.
>>
>> They were getting their asses kicked before the west came to their
>> aid.
>
>But they would have won anyway, just not as quickly.

Sure.
>
>>> Putin, like Hitler, is fighting for Russian interests in security
>>> matters. No nukes in Ukraine, is his main desire and cause for invasion.
>
>> Putin is a lying sack of shit,
>
>And so is Trump.
>
>> at one time Ukraine had nukes of its own.
>
>Nope, they were russian nukes.

They were USST nukes and in control of Ukraine. Maybe they kept a
few.
>
>> Their mistake was giving them up and trusting others.
>
>Yep.
>
>> Putin wants the old USSR that filed back
>
>Nope, that is never going to be possible now.

True..
>
>> and he will fail again as his economy is failing.
>
>> He got his ass kick out of the Kiev area.
>
>>> The US kills for its own gains, like so many bandits. Talking of
>>> freaks, none freakier than Bush2.
>
>> I agree that Bush Jr was a total idiot when he went into Iraq.
>
>>>> If he dies tomorrow the world will be a better place.
>>>
>>> No doubt the US will try to get its puppets in power in Moscow after
>>> that, in order to loot Russian wealth.
>>
>> What wealth the State of Texas has a economy bigger than Russia.
>> Russia is a third rate country now.
>
>It always has been.

Agreed.

On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 03:03:49 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

>> I doubt it. They probably feel more safe now that Ukraine will not get nukes. Chances of WW3 is now less.
>> It is Zelensky that is asking for a world war, which if it happens will not just be nuclear.
>>There are weapons like Covid and even worse viruses that could be set loose.
>> Putin has a 80% approval rate, going by Gorbachov and that is backed by my experience while touring Russia.
>> Did Lincoln have a 80% approval rate in the North when he started the civil war?
>> Napoleon had a high approval rate. So did Hitler before WW2.
>> Don't know what will happen. Putin is taking strict security measures, so any assassin sent by your gods
>
>oops, should be devils, not gods!
>But why should they?
>The Washington Swamp Monsters and the Deep State Devils
>must be totally overjoyed with Putin.
>The war is making their huge wallets burst with billions, as always the case.
>
You finally have something I believe right
A lot of money is made out of war.
This is where the media, both side, tell it's citizens
"fight the cood fight"
Look what the "Russian Trolls" feed RT media
https://www.rt.com
--
Petzl
"Our" Media and Major parties are run by lobbyists

Lobbyists write the laws, parliament sells the laws,
paid lucrative commissions for passing their laws.
That’s the modern legislative business of parliament.

When we talk about paying-off politicians in third-world
countries we call it bribery.
However, when we undertake the same process in parliament.
we call it lobbying.

On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 11:24:23 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
wrote:

>>oops, should be devils, not gods!
>
> You believe in devils?
>
The Devil of our bible does GOD's dirty work!
--
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Nov 2019:
China said Rewrite the Bible!
https://nationalfile.com/china-orders-pro-communist-bible-revision-admits-bible-is-anti-communist/
https://is.gd/OTBkj9
Jesus said:
If anyone adds to these things,
God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book
Revelation 22:18
Dec 2019:
CoronaVirus plague outbreak

On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 04:02:51 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

>No doubt the US will try to get its puppets in power in Moscow after that, in order to loot Russian wealth.
>That worked in Ukraine in 2014, after the coup.
>Well, that would mean cheap goods for the West, and profits for their rich scums.
>Certainly the world will be a better place for those affiliated with the Washington Swamp and Deep State.
>And there are so many of them.
>So they want Putin dead.
>Who knows what will happen!
>Just that, Putin is no Saddam or Gaddafi.
>And he has plenty of nukes.
>
Obama and Biden were trying to gain control of Ukraine, Biden's
Democrat return has forced Putins hand.
https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSBRE9BI0DZ20131219
--
Petzl
We are advised to NOT judge ALL Moslems by the actions of a few lunatics,
but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics.
Funny how that works.

Step 1: Hoax a massacre
Step 2: Gun confiscation
Step 3: Ethnic replacement
Step 4: Genocide

America is the only country standing firm against this.

Want to stop Drunk Drivers from killing Sober drivers?
Ban sober drivers from driving.
That's how gun control works

Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Putin's claim was the invasion, he denied was going to happen,
>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>> because the Ukraine was going to join NATO?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, if you go through the video you will see that is exactly
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> case.
>>>>>>>>>>> NATO was trying to get Georgia into its orbit, and that was
>>>>>>>>>>> stopped
>>>>>>>>>>> earlier by Putin.
>>>>>>>>>>> Then Ukraine too. Trump armed them.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yet, but not enough, even so, they are kicking Russian butts..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> To the Marxist freedom is a threat. BTW, did you see that
>>>>>>>>>> picture
>>>>>>>>>> of Putin on a horse? Putin needs a bra, big time.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Both Putin and Biden are photo shopped to hell
>>>>>>>>> https://www.vox.com/2015/6/17/8796659/vladimir-putin-shirtless-video
>>>>>>>>> Putin has had a breast reduction (he's been on steroids for
>>>>>>>>> years)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That is sad.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Putin has always been a bullying thug.
>>>>>>> His installed crime gang stole all profitable industry and murdered
>>>>>>> those who had legitimate claim to them.
>>>>>>> <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/13/russia-putin-german-right-hand-man-matthias-warnig>
>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/y9aeg2xr
>>>>>>> Circles of power: Putin's secret friendship with ex-Stasi officer
>>>>>>> After revelations of Russian president’s links to former chancellor
>>>>>>> Gerhard Schröder, investigation sheds light on relationship with
>>>>>>> influential German businessman
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bidens crime gang no different
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Very different, Biden has never had anyone murdered.
>>>>
>>>>> Are you sure?
>>>>
>>>> Yep, if he had done, it would have been all over the news, just like
>>>> Putin's was.
>>
>>> Putin is a idiot.
>>
>> So is Trump.
>
> Agree.
>>
>>> If Biden had someone killed they would report it as a suicide.
>>
>> Bullshit, the press would be all over it. No one would believe the
>> report.

> Fox might be all over it. The liberal media lied about Hunter's
> laptop right before the election and are just now admitting it.

That is nothing even remotely like murder.

> Social
> media banned people from even talking about it before the election.

Wouldn't happen with a murder.

> Sorry, what you describe is done more on the left.

Irrelevant.

>>>> As Obama admitted, Biden fucks up everything he is ever involved in..
>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://welovetrump.com/2022/04/08/us-banks-flagged-more-than-150-biden-family-business-transactions/>
>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/ya7tjoun
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just because some stupid trumpet claims something...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> CBS digs into Hunter, James Biden scandal:Over 150 'concerning'
>>>>>>> bank
>>>>>>> transactions
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Be concerned, no one actually cares, they made him president anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Biden has to have a pole stuck up his ass to stand up straight
>>>>>>>>> They even have a cosmetic mask put on the lying POS
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> BTW thought progressives and Marxists said Trump was in Putin's
>>>>>>>>>> pocket?

Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote

> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 05:37:30 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 14:50:55 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 16:39:38 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 15:40:04 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Apr 2022 22:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>>> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 03:00:33 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 15:09:44 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>>>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >On Thursday, 7 April 2022 at 06:37:38 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >> On Thu, 07 Apr 2022 05:51:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>>> >> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> >Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMzZ_lVHv_A
>>>>>>>>> >> >> Mersheimer sounds reasonable.
>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> >Bullshit he does. The Ukraine is just the most recent in the
>>>>>>>>> >> >series of Chechnya, Georgia, the Crimea and now the Ukraine.
>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> >Nothing to do with NATO.
>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> Putin's claim was the invasion, he denied was going to happen,
>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>> >> because the Ukraine was going to join NATO?
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >Yes, if you go through the video you will see that is exactly
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> case.
>>>>>>>>> >NATO was trying to get Georgia into its orbit, and that was
>>>>>>>>> stopped
>>>>>>>>> earlier by Putin.
>>>>>>>>> >Then Ukraine too. Trump armed them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yet, but not enough, even so, they are kicking Russian butts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just annoying them with the javelins and stingers.
>>>>>>>> Russia is not treating them so far like the USAns treated Vietnam
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> Japan.
>>>>>>>> But as Mersheimer says, they will if they think they have to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Russia is a nation of pussies
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes they are. Its military is second rate if it wasn't for the
>>>>> nukes they would be a joke.
>>>>
>>>> How odd that they did so well at Stalingrad, before
>>>> you buggers had even showed up in europe.
>>>
>>> That was in the 1940s. You really are old. OK, Putin's military
>>> is a bunch of effeminate pussies.
>>
>> They have done a lot better than you clowns did in Afghanistan.

> I admit Bush JR is a joke.

You are a joke.

>>>>>>> and Putin is the next Hitler of this century
>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, he won't be that stupid, you watch.
>>>>
>>>>> His actions on limiting free press and bombing that train station
>>>>> show he is evil to the core.
>>>>
>>>> Separate matter entirely to whether he is the next Hitler of this
>>>> century.
>>>
>>> His actions are not important?
>>
>> Never said that, fuckwit.
>>
>>> WOW
>>
>> You are pathetic.
>>
>>>> He isn't even a ruthless as Stalin.
>>>
>>> Now that makes since, the current day Russia is not the USSR.
>>
>> You quite sure you aren't one of those rocket scientist terminal
>> fuckwits ?
>>
>>>>>>> with his attacks on civilians.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To the Marxist freedom is a threat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, but the Russians are not Marxists.
>>>>>>>> They are religious nationalists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can see that as the Russian Orthodox Church is pure evil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More of your mindless bullshit.
>>>>
>>>>> That Church needs to be destroyed.
>>>>
>>>> Not even possible. Even Stalin couldn't manage that.
>>>
>>> Didn't say it would be easy.
>>
>> Not even possible.
>>
>>>> That's the problem with you stupid god botherers,
>>>> even a full holocaust can't get rid of you all.
>>
>>> The USSR was a atheist state as is China and North Korea, Atheism
>>> also shows great evil.
>>
>> You are a terminal fuckwit.

> You are unbalanced, even for a far leftist OZZY.

You have never had a fucking clue about the political
orientation of anyway. I am nothing even remotely
like a leftist. I am in fact a rightist, but not a far rightist.

>>>>>>>> Quite the opposite of Marxism.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not in ethics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > BTW, did you see that picture
>>>>>>>>> of Putin on a horse? Putin needs a bra, big time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He tries to project the opposite of the drunken swine image.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He looks like a pregnant pig with those tits. Rather disgusting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BTW thought progressives and Marxists said Trump was in Putin's
>>>>>>>>> pocket?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Who knows. I thought he was in Twitter's tweeting.
>>>>>>>> When that balloon burst, he was stuffed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trump is a idiot, he also let the media control him and get him
>>>>>>> going. Ego problem but then Putin has that also.

Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote

> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 05:41:41 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 14:46:04 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 01:55:40 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 15:40:10 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Apr 2022 22:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 03:00:33 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>>>> >> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 15:09:44 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> >On Thursday, 7 April 2022 at 06:37:38 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>>>>>>> >> >> On Thu, 07 Apr 2022 05:51:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>> >> >> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> >Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMzZ_lVHv_A
>>>>>>> >> >> >> Mersheimer sounds reasonable.
>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> >Bullshit he does. The Ukraine is just the most recent in the
>>>>>>> >> >> >series of Chechnya, Georgia, the Crimea and now the Ukraine.
>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> >Nothing to do with NATO.
>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> Putin's claim was the invasion, he denied was going to
>>>>>>> happen,
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> >> >> because the Ukraine was going to join NATO?
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >Yes, if you go through the video you will see that is exactly
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> case.
>>>>>>> >> >NATO was trying to get Georgia into its orbit, and that was
>>>>>>> stopped earlier by Putin.
>>>>>>> >> >Then Ukraine too. Trump armed them.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Yet, but not enough, even so, they are kicking Russian butts.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >Just annoying them with the javelins and stingers.
>>>>>>> >Russia is not treating them so far like the USAns treated Vietnam
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> Japan.
>>>>>>> >But as Mersheimer says, they will if they think they have to.
>>>>>>> Russia is a nation of pussies and Putin is the next Hitler of this
>>>>>>> century with his attacks on civilians.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> To the Marxist freedom is a threat.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >Yes, but the Russians are not Marxists.
>>>>>>> >They are religious nationalists.
>>>>>>> I can see that as the Russian Orthodox Church is pure evil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No. I don't think so.
>>>>
>>>>> Yes it is. Evil is at its core.
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit. The most they did is self preservation.
>>
>>> Why would they support what is going on in Ukraine and how is that
>>> self-preservation?
>>
>> The self preservation was way back when Stalin was trying to stamp them
>> out, stupid.

> What has that to do with today?

It's the evidence that they arent evil, fuckwit.

>> Nothing evil about that.

>> You are just another arsehole god botherer that
>> wants to stamp out any other god botherers
>> whose stupid cult is different in detail to yours.

He's right. Yes, I know that was me.

>>>>>> They are passionate and idealistic. They take Christianity in the
>>>>>> original sense, in the spirit of self-sacrifice, so they are not
>>>>>> materialistic. They are spiritual. Very serious; too much so,
>>>>>> perhaps.
>>>>>> That may not suit the modern atheists, materialists, selfish-greedy
>>>>>> sorts; and as they are so different from the ROC, there is tension.
>>>>>> As to who is evil, and who is good, is impossible to say off-hand
>>>>>> unless we are talking about known devils like Bush2: used 911
>>>>>> explosions to fund his mates in wars and invasions.
>>>>>> In certain positions one lot is good, and in other positions evil.
>>>>>> Depends upon point of view. A terrorist to one, is a hero to
>>>>>> another.
>>>>
>>>>> They are evil and should be destroyed.
>>>>
>>>> Not even possible.
>>>>
>>>>>>> >Quite the opposite of Marxism.
>>>>>>> Not in ethics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In all its entirety, Western "civilization" (if that ever happens it
>>>>>> will be a good idea - as Gandhi once mentioned) has no use for
>>>>>> ethics
>>>>>> for its own sake. It is based upon law and opportunism. Wars and
>>>>>> divorces are the natural outcomes.
>>>>>> Marxism is the least ethical, true.
>>>>
>>>>> Nope.
>>>>
>>>>>> Other Western religions support ethics when it suits. They are based
>>>>>> upon belief, relating to salvation in the afterlife - not ethics.
>>>>>> Ethics is not fundamental - never was even in their pagan times.
>>>>>> They are not Indian yet!
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > > BTW, did you see that picture
>>>>>>> >> of Putin on a horse? Putin needs a bra, big time.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >He tries to project the opposite of the drunken swine image.
>>>>>>> He looks like a pregnant pig with those tits. Rather disgusting.
>>>>>> Yeltsin was preferable to him, what?
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> BTW thought progressives and Marxists said Trump was in Putin's
>>>>>>> >> pocket?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >Who knows. I thought he was in Twitter's tweeting.
>>>>>>> >When that balloon burst, he was stuffed.
>>>>>>> Trump is a idiot, he also let the media control him and get him
>>>>>>> going. Ego problem but then Putin has that also.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trump has some genuine American qualities, that I admire.
>>>>>> I saw a photo of him handling the luggage of some guests to one of
>>>>>> his
>>>>>> hotels.
>>>>>> Now that is what made America what it was. Scums have taken over -
>>>>>> totally - quite recently.
>>>>>> My respects for him. He is USA's best hope.
>>>>>> Biden is also good - at least he has not started a nuclear war yet
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> what more can one expect from any potus?
>>>>
>>>>> Putin the freak made threats of Nuclear war
>>>>
>>>> Only fools are actually stupid enough to believe that he is actually
>>>> stupid enough to do it.
>>>
>>> That is if he is completely sane. Maybe he and Biden both have
>>> dementia.
>>
>> Neither do.
>
> Sure.

Fraid so.

>>>>> and he is one sick bastard. Maybe one of his own people will kill
>>>>> Putin off.
>>>>
>>>> Rather unlikely that Putin is actually stupid enough to allow that to
>>>> happen.
>>>
>>> Time will tell.
>>
>> Time has told, no one has actually been stupid enough to try it.
>>
>> Plenty did with Hitler.
>
> Hitler and Nuclear war?

Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote

> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 05:44:04 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 02:20:23 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Monday, 11 April 2022 at 13:36:55 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 01:55:40 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 15:40:10 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>> >> On Sat, 9 Apr 2022 22:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 03:00:33 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>> >> >> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 15:09:44 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >On Thursday, 7 April 2022 at 06:37:38 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>>>>> >> >> >> On Thu, 07 Apr 2022 05:51:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> >> >> >> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >> >Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMzZ_lVHv_A
>>>>> >> >> >> >> Mersheimer sounds reasonable.
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> >Bullshit he does. The Ukraine is just the most recent in
>>>>> the
>>>>> >> >> >> >series of Chechnya, Georgia, the Crimea and now the
>>>>> Ukraine.
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> >Nothing to do with NATO.
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> Putin's claim was the invasion, he denied was going to
>>>>> happen, was
>>>>> >> >> >> because the Ukraine was going to join NATO?
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >Yes, if you go through the video you will see that is exactly
>>>>> the case.
>>>>> >> >> >NATO was trying to get Georgia into its orbit, and that was
>>>>> stopped earlier by Putin.
>>>>> >> >> >Then Ukraine too. Trump armed them.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Yet, but not enough, even so, they are kicking Russian butts.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >Just annoying them with the javelins and stingers.
>>>>> >> >Russia is not treating them so far like the USAns treated Vietnam
>>>>> or Japan.
>>>>> >> >But as Mersheimer says, they will if they think they have to.
>>>>> >> Russia is a nation of pussies and Putin is the next Hitler of this
>>>>> >> century with his attacks on civilians.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> To the Marxist freedom is a threat.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >Yes, but the Russians are not Marxists.
>>>>> >> >They are religious nationalists.
>>>>> >> I can see that as the Russian Orthodox Church is pure evil.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >No. I don't think so.
>>>>> Yes it is. Evil is at its core.
>>>>
>>>> I will bet they will think the same about your sect whatever that is.
>>>
>>> I don't have a sect.
>>>>
>>>>> >They are passionate and idealistic. They take Christianity in the
>>>>> original sense, in the spirit of self-sacrifice, so they are not
>>>>> materialistic. They are spiritual. Very serious; too much so,
>>>>> perhaps.
>>>>> >That may not suit the modern atheists, materialists, selfish-greedy
>>>>> sorts; and as they are so different from the ROC, there is tension.
>>>>> >As to who is evil, and who is good, is impossible to say off-hand
>>>>> unless we are talking about known devils like Bush2: used 911
>>>>> explosions to fund his mates in wars and invasions.
>>>>> >In certain positions one lot is good, and in other positions evil.
>>>>> Depends upon point of view. A terrorist to one, is a hero to another.
>>>>> They are evil and should be destroyed.
>>>>
>>>> You can try. Chaps who tried have not been too successful so far.
>>>> Except the Mongols, but that was a while ago.
>>>>
>>>>> >> >Quite the opposite of Marxism.
>>>>> >> Not in ethics.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >In all its entirety, Western "civilization" (if that ever happens it
>>>>> will be a good idea - as Gandhi once mentioned) has no use for ethics
>>>>> for its own sake. It is based upon law and opportunism. Wars and
>>>>> divorces are the natural outcomes.
>>>>> >Marxism is the least ethical, true.
>>>>> Nope.
>>>>
>>>> They do not believe in ethics. For them the notion of right or wrong
>>>> based upon traditional beliefs is conditioning of the lower classes by
>>>> the higher classes, for the latter to keep the former docile.
>>>> They believe in classes, class struggle, class enemy and dictatorship
>>>> of the proletariat. Well, the last one turns into a dictatorship quite
>>>> fast
>>>> Other sects have faith, and usually there are aspects in the faith
>>>> such
>>>> as the ten commandments that have basis in ethics.
>>>>
>>>>> >Other Western religions support ethics when it suits. They are based
>>>>> upon belief, relating to salvation in the afterlife - not ethics.
>>>>> Ethics is not fundamental - never was even in their pagan times.
>>>>> >They are not Indian yet!
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > > BTW, did you see that picture
>>>>> >> >> of Putin on a horse? Putin needs a bra, big time.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >He tries to project the opposite of the drunken swine image.
>>>>> >> He looks like a pregnant pig with those tits. Rather disgusting.
>>>>> >Yeltsin was preferable to him, what?
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> BTW thought progressives and Marxists said Trump was in Putin's
>>>>> >> >> pocket?
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >Who knows. I thought he was in Twitter's tweeting.
>>>>> >> >When that balloon burst, he was stuffed.
>>>>> >> Trump is a idiot, he also let the media control him and get him
>>>>> >> going. Ego problem but then Putin has that also.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Trump has some genuine American qualities, that I admire.
>>>>> >I saw a photo of him handling the luggage of some guests to one of
>>>>> his hotels.
>>>>> >Now that is what made America what it was. Scums have taken over -
>>>>> totally - quite recently.
>>>>> >My respects for him. He is USA's best hope.
>>>>> >Biden is also good - at least he has not started a nuclear war yet
>>>>> and what more can one expect from any potus?
>>>>
>>>>> Putin the freak made threats of Nuclear war and he is one sick
>>>>> bastard. Maybe one of his own people will kill Putin off.
>>>>
>>>> I doubt it. They probably feel more safe now that Ukraine will not get
>>>> nukes.
>>>
>>> Who said they were going to get Nukes? They had nukes and gave them
>>> up.
>>>
>>>> Chances of WW3 is now less.
>>>> It is Zelensky that is asking for a world war, which if it happens
>>>> will
>>>> not just be nuclear. There are weapons like Covid and even worse
>>>> viruses that could be set loose.
>>>> Putin has a 80% approval rate, going by Gorbachov and that is backed
>>>> by
>>>> my experience while touring Russia.
>>
>>> Putin is a war criminal and a freak and a total liar.
>>
>> So is Trump.
>>
>>> Russia doesn't have a free press.
>>
>> It never has had.
>>
>>> Then again to disagree with Putin will get
>>> you 15 years in jail or killed.
>>
>> More of your mindless bullshit with that woman
>> who held up a placard behind the news reader.

Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote

> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 05:45:21 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 14:41:48 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 02:04:29 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 15:40:10 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Apr 2022 22:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 03:00:33 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>>>> >> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 15:09:44 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> >On Thursday, 7 April 2022 at 06:37:38 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>>>>>>> >> >> On Thu, 07 Apr 2022 05:51:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>> >> >> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> >Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMzZ_lVHv_A
>>>>>>> >> >> >> Mersheimer sounds reasonable.
>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> >Bullshit he does. The Ukraine is just the most recent in the
>>>>>>> >> >> >series of Chechnya, Georgia, the Crimea and now the Ukraine.
>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> >Nothing to do with NATO.
>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> Putin's claim was the invasion, he denied was going to
>>>>>>> happen,
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> >> >> because the Ukraine was going to join NATO?
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >Yes, if you go through the video you will see that is exactly
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> case.
>>>>>>> >> >NATO was trying to get Georgia into its orbit, and that was
>>>>>>> stopped earlier by Putin.
>>>>>>> >> >Then Ukraine too. Trump armed them.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Yet, but not enough, even so, they are kicking Russian butts.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >Just annoying them with the javelins and stingers.
>>>>>>> >Russia is not treating them so far like the USAns treated Vietnam
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> Japan.
>>>>>>> >But as Mersheimer says, they will if they think they have to.
>>>>>>> Russia is a nation of pussies and Putin is the next Hitler of this
>>>>>>> century with his attacks on civilians.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Russia lost 20 million in the WW2 and if there is a WW3 with nukes,
>>>>>> which is what Zelensky is asking for, they may lose 30-40 million.
>>>>>> Putin is attacking Ukraine to prevent that catastrophe.
>>>>>> The fool Zelensky has asked civilians to fight the Russians. Throw
>>>>>> Molotov cocktails. He is fighting behind the civilians, so Putin
>>>>>> says.
>>>>>> Obviously civilians will get killed in such strategies. They should
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> evacuated.
>>>>>> Sad, but rather you than I, is what Putin may say. Very american,
>>>>>> what?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Putin is a freak, a very ugly freak, his policies that he is
>>>>> showing now, show he is much like Hitler and the Nazis.
>>>>
>>>> No more so than Stalin.
>>
>>> You believe that excuses war crimes and bombing that train station?
>>
>> Nope.
>
> Then you are just trolling.

You never could bullshit your way out of a wet
paper bag and can't even manage viable insult.

>>>>> If he dies tomorrow the world will be a better place.
>>>>
>>>> That depends on who replaces him.
>>
>>> True.
>>
>>>>>>> >> To the Marxist freedom is a threat.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >Yes, but the Russians are not Marxists.
>>>>>>> >They are religious nationalists.
>>>>>>> I can see that as the Russian Orthodox Church is pure evil.
>>>>>>> >Quite the opposite of Marxism.
>>>>>>> Not in ethics.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > > BTW, did you see that picture
>>>>>>> >> of Putin on a horse? Putin needs a bra, big time.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >He tries to project the opposite of the drunken swine image.
>>>>>>> He looks like a pregnant pig with those tits. Rather disgusting.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> BTW thought progressives and Marxists said Trump was in Putin's
>>>>>>> >> pocket?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >Who knows. I thought he was in Twitter's tweeting.
>>>>>>> >When that balloon burst, he was stuffed.
>>>>>>> Trump is a idiot, he also let the media control him and get him
>>>>>>> going. Ego problem but then Putin has that also.
>>>>>>> >> >

Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote

> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 05:52:24 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 04:02:51 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Monday, 11 April 2022 at 13:33:45 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 02:04:29 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 15:40:10 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>> >> On Sat, 9 Apr 2022 22:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 03:00:33 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>>>>> >> >> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 15:09:44 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>>>> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >On Thursday, 7 April 2022 at 06:37:38 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>>>>> >> >> >> On Thu, 07 Apr 2022 05:51:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> >> >> >> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >> >Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMzZ_lVHv_A
>>>>> >> >> >> >> Mersheimer sounds reasonable.
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> >Bullshit he does. The Ukraine is just the most recent in
>>>>> the
>>>>> >> >> >> >series of Chechnya, Georgia, the Crimea and now the
>>>>> Ukraine.
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> >Nothing to do with NATO.
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> Putin's claim was the invasion, he denied was going to
>>>>> happen, was
>>>>> >> >> >> because the Ukraine was going to join NATO?
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >Yes, if you go through the video you will see that is exactly
>>>>> the case.
>>>>> >> >> >NATO was trying to get Georgia into its orbit, and that was
>>>>> stopped earlier by Putin.
>>>>> >> >> >Then Ukraine too. Trump armed them.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Yet, but not enough, even so, they are kicking Russian butts.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >Just annoying them with the javelins and stingers.
>>>>> >> >Russia is not treating them so far like the USAns treated Vietnam
>>>>> or Japan.
>>>>> >> >But as Mersheimer says, they will if they think they have to.
>>>>> >> Russia is a nation of pussies and Putin is the next Hitler of this
>>>>> >> century with his attacks on civilians.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Russia lost 20 million in the WW2 and if there is a WW3 with nukes,
>>>>> which is what Zelensky is asking for, they may lose 30-40 million.
>>>>> >Putin is attacking Ukraine to prevent that catastrophe.
>>>>> >The fool Zelensky has asked civilians to fight the Russians. Throw
>>>>> Molotov cocktails. He is fighting behind the civilians, so Putin
>>>>> says.
>>>>> >Obviously civilians will get killed in such strategies. They should
>>>>> be evacuated.
>>>>> >Sad, but rather you than I, is what Putin may say. Very american,
>>>>> what?
>>>>
>>>>> Putin is a freak, a very ugly freak, his policies that he is
>>>>> showing now, show he is much like Hitler and the Nazis.
>>>>
>>>> He is, and has been, the International Hero fighting against the
>>>> leaders of the soulless, cunning, racist and bigoted
>>>> capitalist-imperialist-murderous-enslaving Western European countries
>>>> and the US.
>>>> Hitler and Putin do have some similarities such as popularity and
>>>> nationalism.
>>>
>>> Putin is a rather stupid freak.
>>
>> He has managed a hell of a lot more than you have.
>>
>> Or Trump has too.

> Trump is an idiot, Putin a freak,

And you are terminal fuckwit god botherer
who has never had a fucking clue, as always.

> and you a Putin lover.

Wrong, as always.

> Are you planning a terrorist attack on OZ for aid they give to Ukraine?

Nope, and we are giving them sweet fuck all.

>>>> Putin is much smarter than Hitler, who made too many mistakes.
>>
>>> No, Putin is an idiot and a freak.
>>
>> He has managed a hell of a lot more than you have.
>>
>> Or Trump has too.
>>
>>>> How is the US better than Nazis? The US has caused the deaths of many
>>>> millions of civilians in Vietnam, Cambodia, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan
>>>> and Libya.
>>>
>>> OK
>>>
>>>> Hitler was fighting for survival against Communism. He had no quarrel
>>>> with US and UK, but the capitalists there combined with the communists
>>>> to defeat him.
>>>
>>> Sorry, Hitler was the one who attacked the UK
>>
>> Nope, the poms declared war after he invaded Poland.

> Not the USA.

Only because so many of you lot didnt want to get involved
until after Pearl Harbor.

>>> and he did declare war on the USA.

>> And attacked US shipping.

> True that he did.

And you lot did nothing about that until after Pearl Harbor.

>>> Who knows what might have happened if he hadn't joined Japan.
>>
>> An even quick loss.
>>
>>> Hitler and Putin were/are egotistical freaks.
>>
>> And so is Trump.

> True, you sure are focused on Trump.

Nope, just rubbing your nose in the fact that he is just as much an
egotistical freak as Putin.

> Trump is a idiot.

And you are a terminal fuckwit god botherer.

>>>> Hitler should not have lost, and would not have, had he not attacked
>>>> USSR. That was a fatal mistake, totally unnecessary. The Communism
>>>> he
>>>> was fighting before the got power was actually Trotskyism, which had
>>>> created havoc in Russia; but Stalinists had already defeated them in a
>>>> civil war.
>>>
>>> They were getting their asses kicked before the west came to their
>>> aid.
>>
>> But they would have won anyway, just not as quickly.
>
> Sure.
>>
>>>> Putin, like Hitler, is fighting for Russian interests in security
>>>> matters. No nukes in Ukraine, is his main desire and cause for
>>>> invasion.
>>
>>> Putin is a lying sack of shit,
>>
>> And so is Trump.
>>
>>> at one time Ukraine had nukes of its own.
>>
>> Nope, they were russian nukes.
>
> They were USST nukes and in control of Ukraine. Maybe they kept a few.

Not a chance, they would have announced that by now if they had.

>>> Their mistake was giving them up and trusting others.
>>
>> Yep.
>>
>>> Putin wants the old USSR that filed back
>>
>> Nope, that is never going to be possible now.
>
> True..
>>
>>> and he will fail again as his economy is failing.
>>
>>> He got his ass kick out of the Kiev area.
>>
>>>> The US kills for its own gains, like so many bandits. Talking of
>>>> freaks, none freakier than Bush2.
>>
>>> I agree that Bush Jr was a total idiot when he went into Iraq.
>>
>>>>> If he dies tomorrow the world will be a better place.
>>>>
>>>> No doubt the US will try to get its puppets in power in Moscow after
>>>> that, in order to loot Russian wealth.
>>>
>>> What wealth the State of Texas has a economy bigger than Russia.
>>> Russia is a third rate country now.
>>
>> It always has been.
>
> Agreed.

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote

>>> I doubt it. They probably feel more safe now that Ukraine will not get
>>> nukes. Chances of WW3 is now less.
>>> It is Zelensky that is asking for a world war, which if it happens
>>> will not just be nuclear.
>>> There are weapons like Covid and even worse viruses that could be set
>>> loose.
>>> Putin has a 80% approval rate, going by Gorbachov and that is backed
>>> by my experience while touring Russia.
>>> Did Lincoln have a 80% approval rate in the North when he started the
>>> civil war?
>>> Napoleon had a high approval rate. So did Hitler before WW2.
>>> Don't know what will happen. Putin is taking strict security measures,
>>> so any assassin sent by your gods
>>
>> oops, should be devils, not gods!
>> But why should they?
>> The Washington Swamp Monsters and the Deep State Devils
>> must be totally overjoyed with Putin.
>> The war is making their huge wallets burst with billions, as always the
>> case.

> You finally have something I believe right

We'll see...

> A lot of money is made out of war.

Not in this war yet and likely won't be unless NATO
attacks Putin which I don't believe will happen.

NATO has moved some hardware and troops around, but thats all.

> This is where the media, both side, tell it's citizens
> "fight the cood fight"
> Look what the "Russian Trolls" feed RT media
> https://www.rt.com

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote

>>> oops, should be devils, not gods!

>> You believe in devils?

> The Devil of our bible does GOD's dirty work!

Nope, its just another fairy story.

There is no heaven or hell of you, just rotting in some
coffin or getting cremated and tossed in the bin.

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote

>> No doubt the US will try to get its puppets in power in Moscow after
>> that, in order to loot Russian wealth.
>> That worked in Ukraine in 2014, after the coup.
>> Well, that would mean cheap goods for the West, and profits for their
>> rich scums.
>> Certainly the world will be a better place for those affiliated with
>> the Washington Swamp and Deep State.
>> And there are so many of them.
>> So they want Putin dead.
>> Who knows what will happen!
>> Just that, Putin is no Saddam or Gaddafi.
>> And he has plenty of nukes.

> Obama and Biden were trying to gain control of Ukraine,

Nope, just thought that should be free to
join the EU if that is what they wanted to do.

> Biden's Democrat return has forced Putins hand.

Bullshit. Putin has been fucking over the Ukraine for
more than a decade now.

> https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSBRE9BI0DZ20131219

Just because some fool journo claims something...

On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 09:52:02 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote
>
>>> No doubt the US will try to get its puppets in power in Moscow after
>>> that, in order to loot Russian wealth.
>>> That worked in Ukraine in 2014, after the coup.
>>> Well, that would mean cheap goods for the West, and profits for their
>>> rich scums.
>>> Certainly the world will be a better place for those affiliated with
>>> the Washington Swamp and Deep State.
>>> And there are so many of them.
>>> So they want Putin dead.
>>> Who knows what will happen!
>>> Just that, Putin is no Saddam or Gaddafi.
>>> And he has plenty of nukes.
>
>> Obama and Biden were trying to gain control of Ukraine,
>
>Nope, just thought that should be free to
>join the EU if that is what they wanted to do.
>
>> Biden's Democrat return has forced Putins hand.
>
>Bullshit. Putin has been fucking over the Ukraine for
>more than a decade now.
>
>> https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSBRE9BI0DZ20131219
>
>Just because some fool journo claims something...

A leaked phone call, believed to have taken place on January 28, 2014,
between then US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and US
Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt revealed that Obama-admin
officials were involved in a scheme to oust Ukrainian President
Yanukovych and replace his administration with Western allies. The
call was discussed in several US-based media outlets though, for the
most part, they refrain from discussing its content and instead focus
on Nuland’s expletive remark of “Fuck the EU” and highlight that
Russian hackers were likely the leak’s source. Then State Department
spokeswoman Jen Psaki corroborated the legitimacy of the call as she
“did not dispute the authenticity of the recording and said that
Nuland had apologized to European Union officials for her remarks,”
according to Associated Press. Listen to full call here:
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Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote

>>>> No doubt the US will try to get its puppets in power in Moscow after
>>>> that, in order to loot Russian wealth.
>>>> That worked in Ukraine in 2014, after the coup.
>>>> Well, that would mean cheap goods for the West, and profits for their
>>>> rich scums.
>>>> Certainly the world will be a better place for those affiliated with
>>>> the Washington Swamp and Deep State.
>>>> And there are so many of them.
>>>> So they want Putin dead.
>>>> Who knows what will happen!
>>>> Just that, Putin is no Saddam or Gaddafi.
>>>> And he has plenty of nukes.

>>> Obama and Biden were trying to gain control of Ukraine,

>> Nope, just thought that should be free to
>> join the EU if that is what they wanted to do.

>>> Biden's Democrat return has forced Putins hand.

>> Bullshit. Putin has been fucking overthe Ukraine for more than a
>> decade now.

>>> https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSBRE9BI0DZ20131219

>> Just because some fool journo claims something...

> A leaked phone call, believed to have taken place on January 28, 2014,
> between then US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and US
> Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt revealed that Obama-admin
> officials were involved in a scheme to oust Ukrainian President
> Yanukovych and replace his administration with Western allies.

The phone call does nothing even remotely like organise a coup.

And I just don't believe that any conversation like that would
have happened over an unsecured phone call.

> The call was discussed in several US-based media outlets though,for
> the most part, they refrain from discussing its content

Because the content is nothing like what you claim.

> and instead focus on Nuland’s expletive remark of “Fuck the EU”and
> highlight that Russian hackers were likely the leak’s source.

Just because some fool claims something...

> Then State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki corroboratedthe legitimacy
> of the call as she “did not dispute the authenticityof the recording and
> said that Nuland had apologized to EuropeanUnion officials for her
> remarks,” according to Associated Press.

Just because some fool claims something...

> Listen to full call here:

Doesn't say anything like what you claim.

Petz's latest Goon-bag-fumes delusions:

/ This post was AI autocleaned to remove some virulent retarded troll
poster inputs /
/ snip more wanker crap manually /

> January 28, 2014,

Today's date is 12th of April 2022. Try to catch up!
BTW why the fuck do you use septic date formats?

Oh, and one more more thing:
If you cite something don't just copy and paste like a moron, but use
proper citation formatting, also including where the fuck you stole the
quoted text from.

I have very low opinion of what has happened historically after Ukraine
was creatad as an "independent souvereign entity" the first time in its
history after the collapse of the USSR. I do think this the West has a
great deal to answer for that mess of a country.
However, nothing can excuse the brutal Russian war as we see it today in
that country.

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> Score So Far-

> TRUMP:

- Unemployment Rate...fucked!

- GDP.................totally fucked

- etc...etc...etc.....even more fucked up

See:
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<https://www.self.inc/info/us-debt-under-trump/>

*Trump’s Final Numbers*
"Statistical indicators of President Trump's four years in office."
<https://www.factcheck.org/2021/10/trumps-final-numbers/>

Clearly, Trump has fucked the US economy big time for all but the top ten
percent of the food chain.
The unfortunate 90% has ended up struggling even worse under to his
mismanagement of the country. Wealth and social inequality, just as social
cohesion went from bad to worse under his reign of lies, nepotism and
corruption. The only things which can be shown to have really increased
over the years of his presidency are:

* Far-right terrorism*

* Billionaires' profits*

* Healthcare costs*

* The laughingstock status of the US on the World stage*

> OBAMA:

Is president no more. Try to keep up Petz, dear!
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