Ahem A Rivet's Shot said:
> On Wed, 18 May 2022 18:15:09 +0100
> Nick Odell <nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:
>
>> How many people remember that 1976 was one of the best years for
>> Beaujolais?
>
> AH yes 1976 - I remember it being lbooyd hot, I remember having to
> wear a black short-sleeved tee shirt to steward the folk festival and
> peeling my arms like a snake shedding skin afterwards, I remember ladybirds
> in vast numbers (the year before it was aphids), I remember getting ynvq
> for the first time. If I had to pick a year to put on endless repeat it
> would be high on the list.
>
> I don't pay much attention to wine.

I camped on the northumbrian coast. Ladybirds going 'ping' on the canvas
and sliding down.

And then going out just to stand in the rain, for the novelty value.

A good year.

--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

On Wed, 18 May 2022 20:56:09 +0100
"Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:

> It was the hot dry summer of '75 and poor rainfall over the winter of
> '75/'76 that made the drought of the summer of '76 so severe.

That was the first time I heard the phrase "hosepipe ban", they've
got quite common now though.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

On 18/05/2022 18:49, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Wed, 18 May 2022 18:15:09 +0100
> Nick Odell <nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:
>
>> How many people remember that 1976 was one of the best years for
>> Beaujolais?
>
> AH yes 1976 - I remember it being lbooyd hot, I remember having to
> wear a black short-sleeved tee shirt to steward the folk festival and
> peeling my arms like a snake shedding skin afterwards, I remember ladybirds
> in vast numbers (the year before it was aphids), I remember getting ynvq
> for the first time. If I had to pick a year to put on endless repeat it
> would be high on the list.
>
> I don't pay much attention to wine.

I remember ladybirds being in 1975 when I was doing my A-levels, as
after each one we'd go to the pub down the road from fpubby and have a
pint or two while fighting off the ladybirds in the garden. That was a
real olde-worlde pubbe (as in smelly and with an outside rather
primitive toilet) which was knocked down about 35 years ago and replaced
by a far more modern one, which was more recently knocked down so that
Birmingham University could stick a sports centre where it had been.

On Wed, 18 May 2022 15:38:21 -0500
Richard Robinson <richardR@privacy.net> wrote:

> Tease'n'Seize said:
> > Nick Odell wrote:
> >
> >> You've just reminded me that in a cupboard somewhere I have not one
> >> but two hand operated mincers
> >
> > SPONG!
>
> I've got one of their coffee-grinders. It's a lovely solid piece of kit,
> but ... hootered if I want to grind coffee by hand. Last thing I need,

Have you tried it ?

> first thing in the morning, I'd want lots of coffee first. Then I'd want
> an electric one.

Most electric grinders are choppers that overheat the coffee as
they chop it and wreck the flavour which doesn't matter if it's tSraubkcs
style caffeinated charcoal but is a terrible thing to do to good coffee.

A decent electric burr grinder will set you back a few hundred Zu
and it still won't have anything like as large, slow and cool grinder as
the Spong and it will be nothing like as reliable (it might last a decade,
I don't think anyone has ever worn out a Spong).

They really do a better wbo of grinding coffee than anything else
they're indestructibly reliable, and it's surprisingly little effort to
grind - unlike those stupid wooden box with a handle toys which are
completely useless.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

On 2022-05-18, Nicholas D. Richards <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:
> In article <slrnt8a0me.9ka.maus@dmaus.org>, maus <maus@dmaus.org> on
> Wed, 18 May 2022 at 14:29:34 awoke Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>>On 2022-05-18, Nicholas D. Richards <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:
> from freezing, sweet tasting to humans and lethal in any quantity.
>
> It had been a cold summer and the grapes had not ripened enough to
> produce enough sugars. I wonder what the French did? :-j
>
> The Romans used to sweeten their wines with Lead Acetate (I believe) and
> look what happened to them, well after about 600+ years.

You are not counting byzanthium.. or the city that claims to be the `new
byzanthium', Moscow. I like pointing out to people that it was the
semi-christianized Rome that fell to the Vandals, not the old pagan one.

--
greymausg@mail.com
Human Life will not end with a `Bang', but with a `D'oh'
Romantic Ireland is done and gone, it's with O'Leary in the grave.

On 2022-05-18, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
> On 18-May-22 15:29, maus wrote:
>> Can anyone remember the name of the stuff that they add to the grapes in
>> Germany to help fermentation? I have used it here (.ie) as well.
>

> Given the German attitude to what can or cannot go into their beer, I
> can't imagine anything being added, except a little insinglass after
> fermentation is over.
>
Actually, I think that law has been abandoned, I have moved on to
tyskie, which suits my digestion.

Recently, I watched a utube video about Polish politics. People saying
rosaries, priests droning on, and along the back wall in front of which
polliticians were talking (I don't speak an Polish) was a line of
Tyskie adverts. Still good beer.

--
greymausg@mail.com
Human Life will not end with a `Bang', but with a `D'oh'
Romantic Ireland is done and gone, it's with O'Leary in the grave.

On 2022-05-18, Nick Odell <nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 18 May 2022 10:37:44 -0500, Richard Robinson
><richardR@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>John Williamson said:
>
> How many people remember that 1976 was one of the best years for
> Beaujolais? Probably nobody. I had to look it up. Yet everybody who
> was around at the time of the Austrian wine scandal remembers it even
> if they can't remember the exact year and they probably still skirt
> past the Austrian wines and choose something else to drink.
>
> Nick

Wine must be french, even the worst is better than Spanish. Do people
still go over from England and bring back trunk fulls of wine?.

--
greymausg@mail.com
Human Life will not end with a `Bang', but with a `D'oh'
Romantic Ireland is done and gone, it's with O'Leary in the grave.

On 2022-05-18, Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:
> On 18/05/2022 18:20, Mike Fleming wrote:
>> On 18/05/2022 10:40, Richard Robinson wrote:
>>> Richard Robinson said:
>>>>
>>>> suger.
>>>
>>> *blush*
>>
>> sug, suger, sugest.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJZgRbmmGUk

alternately;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JywK_5bT8z0

I remember that night, my friend was low after attending a dance, and
realizing that the girl that he was avoiding was his best prospect, back
at the Weslayan home I put 'sugar, sugar' on the jukebox, he ridiculed
my choice. They are still together, and have reached greatgrandchildren.

a>
> Tone

--
greymausg@mail.com
Human Life will not end with a `Bang', but with a `D'oh'
Romantic Ireland is done and gone, it's with O'Leary in the grave.

Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote in
news:20220518184945.619e4109cc22e8c3fa76f33d@eircom.net:

> On Wed, 18 May 2022 18:15:09 +0100
> Nick Odell <nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:
>
>> How many people remember that 1976 was one of the best years for
>> Beaujolais?
>
> AH yes 1976 - I remember it being lbooyd hot, I remember having
> to
> wear a black short-sleeved tee shirt to steward the folk festival and
> peeling my arms like a snake shedding skin afterwards, I remember
> ladybirds in vast numbers (the year before it was aphids), I remember
> getting ynvq for the first time. If I had to pick a year to put on
> endless repeat it would be high on the list.

A good year for me, too. SWMBO and I had just moved down to Hampshire from
Lancashire. We sold the house that we'd paid 5000zu for 10000zu and felt
quite smug until we had to shell out 13000zu for a house down here. I had
moved from a job where I had to go to sea frequently on a small,
uncomfortable fishing boat owned by Lacashire County Council to one where I
travelled abroad a lot at Her Majesty's expense (when I wasn't manning the
phones in the drought office). And, best of all, our first anklebiter[1]
was born.

Yerst, it may have been oblody hot but 1976 were a good year for me.

[1]I'm suffering from more literal ankle-biters atm. The gardning is full
of mossies. SWMBO has instructed me to fill in the garden pond (not going
to happen).
--
Peter
-----

On Thu, 19 May 2022 09:20:26 -0000 (UTC)
Peter <myshed@prune.org.uk> wrote:

> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote in
> news:20220518184945.619e4109cc22e8c3fa76f33d@eircom.net:
>
> > On Wed, 18 May 2022 18:15:09 +0100
> > Nick Odell <nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:
> >
> >> How many people remember that 1976 was one of the best years for
> >> Beaujolais?
> >
> > AH yes 1976 - I remember it being lbooyd hot, I remember having
> > to
> > wear a black short-sleeved tee shirt to steward the folk festival and
> > peeling my arms like a snake shedding skin afterwards, I remember
> > ladybirds in vast numbers (the year before it was aphids), I remember
> > getting ynvq for the first time. If I had to pick a year to put on
> > endless repeat it would be high on the list.
>
> A good year for me, too. SWMBO and I had just moved down to Hampshire from
> Lancashire. We sold the house that we'd paid 5000zu for 10000zu and felt
> quite smug until we had to shell out 13000zu for a house down here. I had
> moved from a job where I had to go to sea frequently on a small,
> uncomfortable fishing boat owned by Lacashire County Council to one where I
> travelled abroad a lot at Her Majesty's expense (when I wasn't manning the
> phones in the drought office). And, best of all, our first anklebiter[1]
> was born.
>
> Yerst, it may have been oblody hot but 1976 were a good year for me.
>
> [1]I'm suffering from more literal ankle-biters atm. The gardning is full
> of mossies. SWMBO has instructed me to fill in the garden pond (not going
> to happen).

Get some frogs; my mozzie infection is mostly due to keeping buckets of shower water for garden irrigation.

Not Frogs. Not Irritation (but SWMBO does like to feed the slugs)

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

Ahem A Rivet's Shot said:
> On Wed, 18 May 2022 20:56:09 +0100
> "Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:
>
>> It was the hot dry summer of '75 and poor rainfall over the winter of
>> '75/'76 that made the drought of the summer of '76 so severe.
>
> That was the first time I heard the phrase "hosepipe ban", they've
> got quite common now though.

Also, AIRI, "put a half-brick in your loo cistern" leading to the
invention of 'dual-flush'.

--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

On 19/05/2022 06:21, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Wed, 18 May 2022 15:38:21 -0500
> Richard Robinson <richardR@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> Tease'n'Seize said:
>>> Nick Odell wrote:
>>>
>>>> You've just reminded me that in a cupboard somewhere I have not one
>>>> but two hand operated mincers
>>>
>>> SPONG!
>>
>> I've got one of their coffee-grinders. It's a lovely solid piece of kit,
>> but ... hootered if I want to grind coffee by hand. Last thing I need,
>
> Have you tried it ?
>
>> first thing in the morning, I'd want lots of coffee first. Then I'd want
>> an electric one.
>
> Most electric grinders are choppers that overheat the coffee as
> they chop it and wreck the flavour which doesn't matter if it's tSraubkcs
> style caffeinated charcoal but is a terrible thing to do to good coffee.

Wooden know I dislike all coffee. All the coffees I've tried, anway, and
as for instany - BLEEEUUURGH!

> A decent electric burr grinder will set you back a few hundred Zu
> and it still won't have anything like as large, slow and cool grinder as
> the Spong and it will be nothing like as reliable (it might last a decade,
> I don't think anyone has ever worn out a Spong).

Unlikely - I have a Spong runner bean slicer which I inherited from late
fambly, and dates from 1940s or maybe 1950s at the latest.

> They really do a better wbo of grinding coffee than anything else
> they're indestructibly reliable, and it's surprisingly little effort to
> grind - unlike those stupid wooden box with a handle toys which are
> completely useless.

Not useless - I use one for grinding spices to the correct size ofbits.

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On 19/05/2022 10:20, Peter wrote:
> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote in
> news:20220518184945.619e4109cc22e8c3fa76f33d@eircom.net:
>
>> On Wed, 18 May 2022 18:15:09 +0100
>> Nick Odell <nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:
>>
>>> How many people remember that 1976 was one of the best years for
>>> Beaujolais?
>>
>> AH yes 1976 - I remember it being lbooyd hot, I remember having
>> to
>> wear a black short-sleeved tee shirt to steward the folk festival and
>> peeling my arms like a snake shedding skin afterwards, I remember
>> ladybirds in vast numbers (the year before it was aphids), I remember
>> getting ynvq for the first time. If I had to pick a year to put on
>> endless repeat it would be high on the list.
>
> A good year for me, too. SWMBO and I had just moved down to Hampshire from
> Lancashire. We sold the house that we'd paid 5000zu for 10000zu and felt
> quite smug until we had to shell out 13000zu for a house down here. I had
> moved from a job where I had to go to sea frequently on a small,
> uncomfortable fishing boat owned by Lacashire County Council to one where I
> travelled abroad a lot at Her Majesty's expense (when I wasn't manning the
> phones in the drought office). And, best of all, our first anklebiter[1]
> was born.
>
> Yerst, it may have been oblody hot but 1976 were a good year for me.
>
> [1]I'm suffering from more literal ankle-biters atm. The gardning is full
> of mossies. SWMBO has instructed me to fill in the garden pond (not going
> to happen).

A glodfish or two will take care of the mozzieeeeeeee larvae - or newts
and tadpoles will do the same wbo.

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On 19/05/2022 09:15, maus wrote:
> On 2022-05-18, Nick Odell <nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 May 2022 10:37:44 -0500, Richard Robinson
>> <richardR@privacy.net> wrote:
>>
>>> John Williamson said:
>>
>> How many people remember that 1976 was one of the best years for
>> Beaujolais? Probably nobody. I had to look it up. Yet everybody who
>> was around at the time of the Austrian wine scandal remembers it even
>> if they can't remember the exact year and they probably still skirt
>> past the Austrian wines and choose something else to drink.
>>
>> Nick
>
> Wine must be french, even the worst is better than Spanish. Do people
> still go over from England and bring back trunk fulls of wine?.

The year my bro left fpubby, he and three of is mates ohled a Lard
Rollerer to take them to A Spanner.

Several of adventures later they returned from A Spanner - "Anything to
declare?" They thought (crectly) that they orter declare the *HYOOGE*
bockle of (A Spannerish) red wine.

"Hmmm:" said customs occifer "one bottle of wine..."

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

In article <XnsAE9C693323D51Factura3476@144.76.35.252>, Peter
<myshed@prune.org.uk> on Thu, 19 May 2022 at 09:20:26 awoke Nicholas
from his slumbers and wrote
>
>[1]I'm suffering from more literal ankle-biters atm. The gardning is full
>of mossies. SWMBO has instructed me to fill in the garden pond (not going
>to happen).

Bottom feeding omnivorous fish, like carp, other fish are available,
might help. Mosquito nymphs make admirable food for many bottom feeders.

OTOH, if the garden pond is used for water plants, like water lilies,
you might not want bottom feeders in your pond.

For some people mosquito bites, acquired in the UK, are more than a
minor irritant, forcing them onto anti-histamines during the season and
visits to the doctor for treatment of infections.
--
0sterc@tcher -

"Où sont les neiges d'antan?"

In article <slrnt8bv5u.2qa.maus@dmaus.org>, maus <maus@dmaus.org> on
Thu, 19 May 2022 at 08:15:58 awoke Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>On 2022-05-18, Nick Odell <nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 May 2022 10:37:44 -0500, Richard Robinson
>><richardR@privacy.net> wrote:
>>
>>>John Williamson said:
>>
>> How many people remember that 1976 was one of the best years for
>> Beaujolais? Probably nobody. I had to look it up. Yet everybody who
>> was around at the time of the Austrian wine scandal remembers it even
>> if they can't remember the exact year and they probably still skirt
>> past the Austrian wines and choose something else to drink.
>>
>> Nick
>
>Wine must be french, even the worst is better than Spanish. Do people
>still go over from England and bring back trunk fulls of wine?.
>
Rioja, Vino Verde to name but a couple?
--
0sterc@tcher -

"Où sont les neiges d'antan?"

Mike Fleming said:
> On 18/05/2022 10:40, Richard Robinson wrote:
>> Richard Robinson said:
>>>
>>> suger.
>>
>> *blush*
>
> sug, suger, sugest.

suggissimo.

--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

Nicholas D. Richards said:
> In article <slrnt8bv5u.2qa.maus@dmaus.org>, maus <maus@dmaus.org> on
> Thu, 19 May 2022 at 08:15:58 awoke Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>>On 2022-05-18, Nick Odell <nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 18 May 2022 10:37:44 -0500, Richard Robinson
>>><richardR@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>John Williamson said:
>>>
>>> How many people remember that 1976 was one of the best years for
>>> Beaujolais? Probably nobody. I had to look it up. Yet everybody who
>>> was around at the time of the Austrian wine scandal remembers it even
>>> if they can't remember the exact year and they probably still skirt
>>> past the Austrian wines and choose something else to drink.
>>>
>>> Nick
>>
>>Wine must be french, even the worst is better than Spanish. Do people
>>still go over from England and bring back trunk fulls of wine?.
>>
> Rioja, Vino Verde to name but a couple?

Hirondelle, man, *Hirondelle*.

But hmm ... a bit of vinho verde'd go down nicely on evenings like
these. It's Portuguese, Pshirley ?

--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote in
news:t6562s$e1f$1@dont-email.me:

>>
>> [1]I'm suffering from more literal ankle-biters atm. The gardning is
>> full of mossies. SWMBO has instructed me to fill in the garden pond
>> (not going to happen).
>
> A glodfish or two will take care of the mozzieeeeeeee larvae - or
> newts and tadpoles will do the same wbo.
>

Glodfish is the plan. Plenty of amphibians and predatory insect larvae in
there already, and most of the time they are enough to keep the mossies
down - I think it's this spell of warm wet weather that's caused the little
blighters to breed faster than usual. On previous occasions when this has
happened (every few years) I've chucked a few small glodfish in - seems to
work, and they thrive for a few years (until the next really cold winter).
Trouble is, they eat all the intersting pond life as well. Voracious little
hooters, your glodfih.

--
Peter
-----

On 2022-05-19, Peter <myshed@prune.org.uk> wrote:
> RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote in
> news:t6562s$e1f$1@dont-email.me:
>
>>>
> happened (every few years) I've chucked a few small glodfish in - seems to
> work, and they thrive for a few years (until the next really cold winter).
> Trouble is, they eat all the intersting pond life as well. Voracious little
> hooters, your glodfih.
>

Local golf course had some sort of iron spread on the fairways and
greens to get rid of moss, it turned them dark purple (overdoing it?),
as the land was leased with pages of conditions, it finished up in
court.

I read that Kenneth Brannagh is to act as bonking boris in some new
film.

--
greymausg@mail.com
Human Life will not end with a `Bang', but with a `D'oh'
Romantic Ireland is done and gone, it's with O'Leary in the grave.

On 19/05/2022 13:56, Richard Robinson wrote:
> Nicholas D. Richards said:
>> In article <slrnt8bv5u.2qa.maus@dmaus.org>, maus <maus@dmaus.org> on
>> Thu, 19 May 2022 at 08:15:58 awoke Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>>> On 2022-05-18, Nick Odell <nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 18 May 2022 10:37:44 -0500, Richard Robinson
>>>> <richardR@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> John Williamson said:
>>>>
>>>> How many people remember that 1976 was one of the best years for
>>>> Beaujolais? Probably nobody. I had to look it up. Yet everybody who
>>>> was around at the time of the Austrian wine scandal remembers it even
>>>> if they can't remember the exact year and they probably still skirt
>>>> past the Austrian wines and choose something else to drink.
>>>>
>>>> Nick
>>>
>>> Wine must be french, even the worst is better than Spanish. Do people
>>> still go over from England and bring back trunk fulls of wine?.
>>>
>> Rioja, Vino Verde to name but a couple?
>
> Hirondelle, man, *Hirondelle*.

I'll swallow that.

> But hmm ... a bit of vinho verde'd go down nicely on evenings like
> these. It's Portuguese, Pshirley ?
>

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On Thu, 19 May 2022 07:51:04 -0500, Richard Robinson
<richardR@privacy.net> wrote:

>Mike Fleming said:
>> On 18/05/2022 10:40, Richard Robinson wrote:
>>> Richard Robinson said:
>>>>
>>>> suger.
>>>
>>> *blush*
>>
>> sug, suger, sugest.
>
>suggissimo.

I thought that meant performed loudly by UB40?

Nick

In article <t65lc1$jn1$1@dont-email.me>, RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.
girolle.co.uk> on Thu, 19 May 2022 at 15:48:33 awoke Nicholas from his
slumbers and wrote
>On 19/05/2022 13:56, Richard Robinson wrote:
>> Nicholas D. Richards said:
>>> In article <slrnt8bv5u.2qa.maus@dmaus.org>, maus <maus@dmaus.org> on
>>> Thu, 19 May 2022 at 08:15:58 awoke Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>>>> On 2022-05-18, Nick Odell <nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 18 May 2022 10:37:44 -0500, Richard Robinson
>>>>> <richardR@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> John Williamson said:
>>>>>
>>>>> How many people remember that 1976 was one of the best years for
>>>>> Beaujolais? Probably nobody. I had to look it up. Yet everybody who
>>>>> was around at the time of the Austrian wine scandal remembers it even
>>>>> if they can't remember the exact year and they probably still skirt
>>>>> past the Austrian wines and choose something else to drink.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nick
>>>>
>>>> Wine must be french, even the worst is better than Spanish. Do people
>>>> still go over from England and bring back trunk fulls of wine?.
>>>>
>>> Rioja, Vino Verde to name but a couple?
>>
>> Hirondelle, man, *Hirondelle*.
>
>I'll swallow that.

Rather you than me. When I was tsudent I spent rather more time
unswallowing it than swallowing it. Ansty, rot gut stuff.
>
>> But hmm ... a bit of vinho verde'd go down nicely on evenings like
>> these. It's Portuguese, Pshirley ?
>>
>
>
>

--
0sterc@tcher -

"Où sont les neiges d'antan?"

On 19/05/2022 16:46, Nick Odell wrote:
> On Thu, 19 May 2022 07:51:04 -0500, Richard Robinson
> <richardR@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> Mike Fleming said:
>>> On 18/05/2022 10:40, Richard Robinson wrote:
>>>> Richard Robinson said:
>>>>>
>>>>> suger.
>>>>
>>>> *blush*
>>>
>>> sug, suger, sugest.
>>
>> suggissimo.
>
> I thought that meant performed loudly by UB40?

Suggs has left Madness?

On 19/05/2022 09:13, maus wrote:
> On 2022-05-18, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
>> On 18-May-22 15:29, maus wrote:
>>> Can anyone remember the name of the stuff that they add to the grapes in
>>> Germany to help fermentation? I have used it here (.ie) as well.
>>
>
>> Given the German attitude to what can or cannot go into their beer, I
>> can't imagine anything being added, except a little insinglass after
>> fermentation is over.
>>
> Actually, I think that law has been abandoned, I have moved on to
> tyskie, which suits my digestion.

That's the EU for you. Germany had to allow adulterated beers to be sold
there.