John Williamson said:
> On 19/03/2022 21:28, RustyHinge wrote:
>> On 06/03/2022 11:58, Tone wrote:
>>> On 05/03/2022 01:09, Sn!pe wrote:
>>>> Richard Robinson <richardR@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>>> Suspicious. Is this Boris's latest "don't you dare throw me out" move,
>>>>> we might get a _pbzcrgrag_ ba*d, and then where would we be ?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Without wishing to be offensive: this is an example of why
>>>> I'm no longer an active participant in my beloved Shed, my
>>>> spiritual home froup for ~20 years.
>>>>
>>>> We now return you to your regular programming.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Woz there ever an active unwritten rule that polly ticks should be
>>> locked out of ye shedd?
>>>
>>> (Asking for a friend.)
>>
>> Yes, and if I unorget crectly, reliion TAAAW
>>
> IIRC, not so much a ehyr, more a ynpx bs vagrerfg. Posts got ignored,
> and killfiles were individually set (or not)

I think it always depended who you listened to. Some people said there
was.

I was never sure that people get to make rules for other people, what
with the way they can't be enforced. But, again, it depends.

--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

John Williamson said:
> On 19/03/2022 21:32, John Williamson wrote:
>> On 19/03/2022 21:28, RustyHinge wrote:
>>> On 06/03/2022 11:58, Tone wrote:
>>>> Woz there ever an active unwritten rule that polly ticks should be
>>>> locked out of ye shedd?
>>>>
>>>> (Asking for a friend.)
>>>
>>> Yes, and if I unorget crectly, reliion TAAAW
>>>
>> IIRC, not so much a ehyr, more a ynpx bs vagrerfg. Posts got ignored,
>> and killfiles were individually set (or not)
>>
> Finally, a use for Groping Gurgles...
>
> The uk.rec.sheds FAQ, part 1 of 8.
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/uk.rec.sheds/c/ZAvB9lkp8gg

Oh cor ! All those old names. "Nostaglia" looks like it ought to mean
something, but it doesn't.

"Approximate = close to
very approximate = very close to"

Wahey !

But, do FAQs have followups ? Apart from that one, obv. If it is one.

--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 8:29:39 PM UTC-5, Richard Robinson wrote:
> John Williamson said:
> > On 19/03/2022 21:32, John Williamson wrote:
> >> On 19/03/2022 21:28, RustyHinge wrote:
> >>> On 06/03/2022 11:58, Tone wrote:
> >>>> Woz there ever an active unwritten rule that polly ticks should be
> >>>> locked out of ye shedd?
> >>>>
> >>>> (Asking for a friend.)
> >>>
> >>> Yes, and if I unorget crectly, reliion TAAAW
> >>>
> >> IIRC, not so much a ehyr, more a ynpx bs vagrerfg. Posts got ignored,
> >> and killfiles were individually set (or not)
> >>
> > Finally, a use for Groping Gurgles...
> >
> > The uk.rec.sheds FAQ, part 1 of 8.
> >
> > https://groups.google.com/g/uk.rec.sheds/c/ZAvB9lkp8gg
> Oh cor ! All those old names. "Nostaglia" looks like it ought to mean
> something, but it doesn't.
>
> "Approximate = close to
> very approximate = very close to"
>
> Wahey !
>
> But, do FAQs have followups ? Apart from that one, obv. If it is one.
> --
> Richard Robinson
> "The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem
>
> My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

What's the name of the Mexican telephone company ?why Taco Bell of course ha ha a real niece slapper

On 20/03/2022 01:18, Richard Robinson wrote:

> I was never sure that people get to make rules for other people, what
> with the way they can't be enforced. But, again, it depends.

One ruled one's own box with (usually) judicious plonks innit.

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 9:59:10 PM UTC-5, RustyHinge wrote:
> On 20/03/2022 01:18, Richard Robinson wrote:
>
> > I was never sure that people get to make rules for other people, what
> > with the way they can't be enforced. But, again, it depends.
> One ruled one's own box with (usually) judicious plonks innit.
>
> --
> Rusty Hinge
> To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

Yeah and I wonder about you know just making laws in general you know they make a law it probably won't be in Forest whatever and So why not just pass laws like the sun from now on will rise in the west and Saturday the east I mean sounds as good as any other law

RustyHinge said:
> On 20/03/2022 01:18, Richard Robinson wrote:
>
>> I was never sure that people get to make rules for other people, what
>> with the way they can't be enforced. But, again, it depends.
>
> One ruled one's own box with (usually) judicious plonks innit.

Yes. It's always been one of the things I like about it - we each have
power over what we read, but not over what other people say

'power', that is, as opposed to the possibility of persuasion etc. We
can try to convince people, we can't compel them (unless they believe
we can)

And no Algorithms to blame things on.

--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote in news:t1659s$adj$1
@dont-email.me:

> On 20/03/2022 01:18, Richard Robinson wrote:
>
>> I was never sure that people get to make rules for other people, what
>> with the way they can't be enforced. But, again, it depends.
>
> One ruled one's own box with (usually) judicious plonks innit.
>

Ferzackerly. If somesheddy posts summat you don't want to read, don't read
it, innit.

In Xnews there is the option to plonk freds as well as people (maybe in
other news readers too - I dunno). So if somesheddy I don't want to plonk
choses to post summat about sbbgonyy (warning - only sheddies of a strong
constitution should unrot that worm) I could choose to not read that fred
rather than not reading everything thatsheddy posts. (Though I would be
pretty dismayed if anyone here *did* post on that topic).

--
Peter
-----

Peter said:
>
> (Though I would be
> pretty dismayed if anyone here *did* post on that topic).

Uh-oh ...

--
Richard Robinson is considering hiding.
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

Richard Robinson <richardR@privacy.net> wrote in
news:PtWdnTWnxv4nrKr_nZ2dnUU7-TGdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk:

> Peter said:
>>
>> (Though I would be
>> pretty dismayed if anyone here *did* post on that topic).
>
> Uh-oh ...

You goov I'm grzcgvat sngr?

--
Peter
-----

Peter said:
> Richard Robinson <richardR@privacy.net> wrote in
> news:PtWdnTWnxv4nrKr_nZ2dnUU7-TGdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk:
>
>> Peter said:
>>>
>>> (Though I would be
>>> pretty dismayed if anyone here *did* post on that topic).
>>
>> Uh-oh ...
>
> You goov I'm grzcgvat sngr?

Sngr ? No, I think you're grzcgvat gur furq.

--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

In article <t4GdnUQM0qq7yar_nZ2dnUU7-IednZ2d@brightview.co.uk>, Richard
Robinson <richardR@privacy.net> on Sun, 20 Mar 2022 at 11:19:50 awoke
Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>Peter said:
>> Richard Robinson <richardR@privacy.net> wrote in
>> news:PtWdnTWnxv4nrKr_nZ2dnUU7-TGdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk:
>>
>>> Peter said:
>>>>
>>>> (Though I would be
>>>> pretty dismayed if anyone here *did* post on that topic).
>>>
>>> Uh-oh ...
>>
>> You goov I'm grzcgvat sngr?
>
>Sngr ? No, I think you're grzcgvat gur furq.
>
Sbbgonyy? Lnja!

Now Sheds of Grey, odd shaped objects and old 'puters, now your talking.
--
0sterc@tcher -

"Où sont les neiges d'antan?"

On 2022-03-20, Richard Robinson <richardR@privacy.net> wrote:
> John Williamson said:
>> On 19/03/2022 21:28, RustyHinge wrote:
>>> On 06/03/2022 11:58, Tone wrote:
>>>> On 05/03/2022 01:09, Sn!pe wrote:
>>>>> Richard Robinson <richardR@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>
>>>>>> Suspicious. Is this Boris's latest "don't you dare throw me out" move,
>>>>>> we might get a _pbzcrgrag_ ba*d, and then where would we be ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Without wishing to be offensive: this is an example of why
>>>>> I'm no longer an active participant in my beloved Shed, my
>>>>> spiritual home froup for ~20 years.
>>>>>
>>>>> We now return you to your regular programming.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Woz there ever an active unwritten rule that polly ticks should be
>>>> locked out of ye shedd?
>>>>
>>>> (Asking for a friend.)
>>>
>>> Yes, and if I unorget crectly, reliion TAAAW
>>>
>> IIRC, not so much a ehyr, more a ynpx bs vagrerfg. Posts got ignored,
>> and killfiles were individually set (or not)
>
> I think it always depended who you listened to. Some people said there
> was.
>
> I was never sure that people get to make rules for other people, what
> with the way they can't be enforced. But, again, it depends.

Rules get complicated because nobody has yet found a way of implementing
"don't be a dick."

--
Bernard Peek
bap@shrdlu.com

On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 11:57:10 AM UTC-5, bap wrote:
> On 2022-03-20, Richard Robinson <rich...@privacy.net> wrote:
> > John Williamson said:
> >> On 19/03/2022 21:28, RustyHinge wrote:
> >>> On 06/03/2022 11:58, Tone wrote:
> >>>> On 05/03/2022 01:09, Sn!pe wrote:
> >>>>> Richard Robinson <rich...@privacy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [...]
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Suspicious. Is this Boris's latest "don't you dare throw me out" move,
> >>>>>> we might get a _pbzcrgrag_ ba*d, and then where would we be ?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Without wishing to be offensive: this is an example of why
> >>>>> I'm no longer an active participant in my beloved Shed, my
> >>>>> spiritual home froup for ~20 years.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We now return you to your regular programming.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Woz there ever an active unwritten rule that polly ticks should be
> >>>> locked out of ye shedd?
> >>>>
> >>>> (Asking for a friend.)
> >>>
> >>> Yes, and if I unorget crectly, reliion TAAAW
> >>>
> >> IIRC, not so much a ehyr, more a ynpx bs vagrerfg. Posts got ignored,
> >> and killfiles were individually set (or not)
> >
> > I think it always depended who you listened to. Some people said there
> > was.
> >
> > I was never sure that people get to make rules for other people, what
> > with the way they can't be enforced. But, again, it depends.
> Rules get complicated because nobody has yet found a way of implementing
> "don't be a dick."
>
>
> --
> Bernard Peek
> b...@shrdlu.com

The way to not be a dick is to be a vagina.

On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 15:44:02 -0700 (PDT)
Don Stockbauer <donstockbauer@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 11:57:10 AM UTC-5, bap wrote:
> > On 2022-03-20, Richard Robinson <rich...@privacy.net> wrote:
> > > John Williamson said:
> > >> On 19/03/2022 21:28, RustyHinge wrote:
> > >>> On 06/03/2022 11:58, Tone wrote:
> > >>>> On 05/03/2022 01:09, Sn!pe wrote:
> > >>>>> Richard Robinson <rich...@privacy.net> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> [...]
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Suspicious. Is this Boris's latest "don't you dare throw me out" move,
> > >>>>>> we might get a _pbzcrgrag_ ba*d, and then where would we be ?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Without wishing to be offensive: this is an example of why
> > >>>>> I'm no longer an active participant in my beloved Shed, my
> > >>>>> spiritual home froup for ~20 years.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> We now return you to your regular programming.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Woz there ever an active unwritten rule that polly ticks should be
> > >>>> locked out of ye shedd?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> (Asking for a friend.)
> > >>>
> > >>> Yes, and if I unorget crectly, reliion TAAAW
> > >>>
> > >> IIRC, not so much a ehyr, more a ynpx bs vagrerfg. Posts got ignored,
> > >> and killfiles were individually set (or not)
> > >
> > > I think it always depended who you listened to. Some people said there
> > > was.
> > >
> > > I was never sure that people get to make rules for other people, what
> > > with the way they can't be enforced. But, again, it depends.
> > Rules get complicated because nobody has yet found a way of implementing
> > "don't be a dick."
> >
[]
>
> The way to not be a dick is to be a vagina.

Other genders may be available (but will probably require surgery).

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

On Tuesday, March 22, 2022 at 9:16:52 AM UTC-5, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 15:44:02 -0700 (PDT)
> Don Stockbauer <donsto...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 11:57:10 AM UTC-5, bap wrote:
> > > On 2022-03-20, Richard Robinson <rich...@privacy.net> wrote:
> > > > John Williamson said:
> > > >> On 19/03/2022 21:28, RustyHinge wrote:
> > > >>> On 06/03/2022 11:58, Tone wrote:
> > > >>>> On 05/03/2022 01:09, Sn!pe wrote:
> > > >>>>> Richard Robinson <rich...@privacy.net> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> [...]
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Suspicious. Is this Boris's latest "don't you dare throw me out" move,
> > > >>>>>> we might get a _pbzcrgrag_ ba*d, and then where would we be ?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Without wishing to be offensive: this is an example of why
> > > >>>>> I'm no longer an active participant in my beloved Shed, my
> > > >>>>> spiritual home froup for ~20 years.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> We now return you to your regular programming.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Woz there ever an active unwritten rule that polly ticks should be
> > > >>>> locked out of ye shedd?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> (Asking for a friend.)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Yes, and if I unorget crectly, reliion TAAAW
> > > >>>
> > > >> IIRC, not so much a ehyr, more a ynpx bs vagrerfg. Posts got ignored,
> > > >> and killfiles were individually set (or not)
> > > >
> > > > I think it always depended who you listened to. Some people said there
> > > > was.
> > > >
> > > > I was never sure that people get to make rules for other people, what
> > > > with the way they can't be enforced. But, again, it depends.
> > > Rules get complicated because nobody has yet found a way of implementing
> > > "don't be a dick."
> > >
> []
> >
> > The way to not be a dick is to be a vagina.
> Other genders may be available (but will probably require surgery).
>
>
> --
> Bah, and indeed Humbug.

Who would've ever thought that you could look up "gender" in wiki and it would go on page after page after page…

On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 10:01:20 -0700 (PDT)
Don Stockbauer <donstockbauer@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, March 22, 2022 at 9:16:52 AM UTC-5, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 15:44:02 -0700 (PDT)
> > Don Stockbauer <donsto...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 11:57:10 AM UTC-5, bap wrote:
> > > > On 2022-03-20, Richard Robinson <rich...@privacy.net> wrote:
> > > > > John Williamson said:
> > > > >> On 19/03/2022 21:28, RustyHinge wrote:
> > > > >>> On 06/03/2022 11:58, Tone wrote:
> > > > >>>> On 05/03/2022 01:09, Sn!pe wrote:
> > > > >>>>> Richard Robinson <rich...@privacy.net> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> [...]
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Suspicious. Is this Boris's latest "don't you dare throw me out" move,
> > > > >>>>>> we might get a _pbzcrgrag_ ba*d, and then where would we be ?
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Without wishing to be offensive: this is an example of why
> > > > >>>>> I'm no longer an active participant in my beloved Shed, my
> > > > >>>>> spiritual home froup for ~20 years.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> We now return you to your regular programming.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Woz there ever an active unwritten rule that polly ticks should be
> > > > >>>> locked out of ye shedd?
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> (Asking for a friend.)
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Yes, and if I unorget crectly, reliion TAAAW
> > > > >>>
> > > > >> IIRC, not so much a ehyr, more a ynpx bs vagrerfg. Posts got ignored,
> > > > >> and killfiles were individually set (or not)
> > > > >
> > > > > I think it always depended who you listened to. Some people said there
> > > > > was.
> > > > >
> > > > > I was never sure that people get to make rules for other people, what
> > > > > with the way they can't be enforced. But, again, it depends.
> > > > Rules get complicated because nobody has yet found a way of implementing
> > > > "don't be a dick."
> > > >
> > []
> > >
> > > The way to not be a dick is to be a vagina.
> > Other genders may be available (but will probably require surgery).
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bah, and indeed Humbug.
>
> Who would've ever thought that you could look up "gender" in wiki and it would go on page after page after page…

I hope there's no hidden a-gender here.

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

On Tuesday, March 22, 2022 at 12:04:43 PM UTC-5, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 10:01:20 -0700 (PDT)
> Don Stockbauer <donsto...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, March 22, 2022 at 9:16:52 AM UTC-5, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > > On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 15:44:02 -0700 (PDT)
> > > Don Stockbauer <donsto...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 11:57:10 AM UTC-5, bap wrote:
> > > > > On 2022-03-20, Richard Robinson <rich...@privacy.net> wrote:
> > > > > > John Williamson said:
> > > > > >> On 19/03/2022 21:28, RustyHinge wrote:
> > > > > >>> On 06/03/2022 11:58, Tone wrote:
> > > > > >>>> On 05/03/2022 01:09, Sn!pe wrote:
> > > > > >>>>> Richard Robinson <rich...@privacy.net> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> [...]
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> Suspicious. Is this Boris's latest "don't you dare throw me out" move,
> > > > > >>>>>> we might get a _pbzcrgrag_ ba*d, and then where would we be ?
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Without wishing to be offensive: this is an example of why
> > > > > >>>>> I'm no longer an active participant in my beloved Shed, my
> > > > > >>>>> spiritual home froup for ~20 years.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> We now return you to your regular programming.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Woz there ever an active unwritten rule that polly ticks should be
> > > > > >>>> locked out of ye shedd?
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> (Asking for a friend.)
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Yes, and if I unorget crectly, reliion TAAAW
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >> IIRC, not so much a ehyr, more a ynpx bs vagrerfg. Posts got ignored,
> > > > > >> and killfiles were individually set (or not)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think it always depended who you listened to. Some people said there
> > > > > > was.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was never sure that people get to make rules for other people, what
> > > > > > with the way they can't be enforced. But, again, it depends.
> > > > > Rules get complicated because nobody has yet found a way of implementing
> > > > > "don't be a dick."
> > > > >
> > > []
> > > >
> > > > The way to not be a dick is to be a vagina.
> > > Other genders may be available (but will probably require surgery).
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Bah, and indeed Humbug.
> >
> > Who would've ever thought that you could look up "gender" in wiki and it would go on page after page after page…
> I hope there's no hidden a-gender here.
> --
> Bah, and indeed Humbug.

We are creating a kinder, gender world.

On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 23:26:59 -0700 (PDT)
Don Stockbauer <donstockbauer@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, March 22, 2022 at 12:04:43 PM UTC-5, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 10:01:20 -0700 (PDT)
> > Don Stockbauer <donsto...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Tuesday, March 22, 2022 at 9:16:52 AM UTC-5, Kerr-Mudd, John
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 15:44:02 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > Don Stockbauer <donsto...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 11:57:10 AM UTC-5, bap wrote:
> > > > > > On 2022-03-20, Richard Robinson <rich...@privacy.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > John Williamson said:
> > > > > > >> On 19/03/2022 21:28, RustyHinge wrote:
> > > > > > >>> On 06/03/2022 11:58, Tone wrote:
> > > > > > >>>> On 05/03/2022 01:09, Sn!pe wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>> Richard Robinson <rich...@privacy.net> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> [...]
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> Suspicious. Is this Boris's latest "don't you dare throw
> > > > > > >>>>>> me out" move, we might get a _pbzcrgrag_ ba*d, and then
> > > > > > >>>>>> where would we be ?
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> Without wishing to be offensive: this is an example of
> > > > > > >>>>> why I'm no longer an active participant in my beloved
> > > > > > >>>>> Shed, my spiritual home froup for ~20 years.
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> We now return you to your regular programming.
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> Woz there ever an active unwritten rule that polly ticks
> > > > > > >>>> should be locked out of ye shedd?
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> (Asking for a friend.)
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Yes, and if I unorget crectly, reliion TAAAW
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >> IIRC, not so much a ehyr, more a ynpx bs vagrerfg. Posts got
> > > > > > >> ignored, and killfiles were individually set (or not)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think it always depended who you listened to. Some people
> > > > > > > said there was.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I was never sure that people get to make rules for other
> > > > > > > people, what with the way they can't be enforced. But, again,
> > > > > > > it depends.
> > > > > > Rules get complicated because nobody has yet found a way of
> > > > > > implementing "don't be a dick."
> > > > > >
> > > > []
> > > > >
> > > > > The way to not be a dick is to be a vagina.
> > > > Other genders may be available (but will probably require surgery).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Bah, and indeed Humbug.
> > >
> > > Who would've ever thought that you could look up "gender" in wiki and
> > > it would go on page after page after page…
> > I hope there's no hidden a-gender here.
> > --
> > Bah, and indeed Humbug.
>
> We are creating a kinder, gender world.

I've not used a gender bender in years - hmm I wonder what happened
to my set of EF232 bits.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
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In article <20220323074330.a79d13bb378f3fc469bc52c1@eircom.net>, Ahem A
Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> on Wed, 23 Mar 2022 at 07:43:30 awoke
Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 23:26:59 -0700 (PDT)
>Don Stockbauer <donstockbauer@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, March 22, 2022 at 12:04:43 PM UTC-5, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>> > On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 10:01:20 -0700 (PDT)
>> > Don Stockbauer <donsto...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Tuesday, March 22, 2022 at 9:16:52 AM UTC-5, Kerr-Mudd, John
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 15:44:02 -0700 (PDT)
>> > > > Don Stockbauer <donsto...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 11:57:10 AM UTC-5, bap wrote:
>> > > > > > On 2022-03-20, Richard Robinson <rich...@privacy.net> wrote:
>> > > > > > > John Williamson said:
>> > > > > > >> On 19/03/2022 21:28, RustyHinge wrote:
>> > > > > > >>> On 06/03/2022 11:58, Tone wrote:
>> > > > > > >>>> On 05/03/2022 01:09, Sn!pe wrote:
>> > > > > > >>>>> Richard Robinson <rich...@privacy.net> wrote:
>> > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > >>>>> [...]
>> > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > >>>>>> Suspicious. Is this Boris's latest "don't you dare throw
>> > > > > > >>>>>> me out" move, we might get a _pbzcrgrag_ ba*d, and then
>> > > > > > >>>>>> where would we be ?
>> > > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > >>>>> Without wishing to be offensive: this is an example of
>> > > > > > >>>>> why I'm no longer an active participant in my beloved
>> > > > > > >>>>> Shed, my spiritual home froup for ~20 years.
>> > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > >>>>> We now return you to your regular programming.
>> > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > > >>>> Woz there ever an active unwritten rule that polly ticks
>> > > > > > >>>> should be locked out of ye shedd?
>> > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > > >>>> (Asking for a friend.)
>> > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > >>> Yes, and if I unorget crectly, reliion TAAAW
>> > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > >> IIRC, not so much a ehyr, more a ynpx bs vagrerfg. Posts got
>> > > > > > >> ignored, and killfiles were individually set (or not)
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > I think it always depended who you listened to. Some people
>> > > > > > > said there was.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > I was never sure that people get to make rules for other
>> > > > > > > people, what with the way they can't be enforced. But, again,
>> > > > > > > it depends.
>> > > > > > Rules get complicated because nobody has yet found a way of
>> > > > > > implementing "don't be a dick."
>> > > > > >
>> > > > []
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The way to not be a dick is to be a vagina.
>> > > > Other genders may be available (but will probably require surgery).
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Bah, and indeed Humbug.
>> > >
>> > > Who would've ever thought that you could look up "gender" in wiki and
>> > > it would go on page after page after page…
>> > I hope there's no hidden a-gender here.
>> > --
>> > Bah, and indeed Humbug.
>>
>> We are creating a kinder, gender world.
>
> I've not used a gender bender in years - hmm I wonder what happened
>to my set of EF232 bits.
>
Actually, without thinking about it, we are probably all using e-gender
benders much of the time. These days many, if not most, USB cables are
male to male, often with a change of USB 'style' of plug. Data and power
cables for mobile phones come to mind.

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"Où sont les neiges d'antan?"

Nicholas D. Richards said:
> In article <20220323074330.a79d13bb378f3fc469bc52c1@eircom.net>, Ahem A
> Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> on Wed, 23 Mar 2022 at 07:43:30 awoke
>>Don Stockbauer <donstockbauer@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We are creating a kinder, gender world.
>>
>> I've not used a gender bender in years - hmm I wonder what happened
>>to my set of EF232 bits.
>>
> Actually, without thinking about it, we are probably all using e-gender
> benders much of the time. These days many, if not most, USB cables are
> male to male

Publicising this Fact could have the potential to quieten a lot of
digital idiots.

--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

On 23/03/2022 10:42, Richard Robinson wrote:
> Nicholas D. Richards said:
>> In article <20220323074330.a79d13bb378f3fc469bc52c1@eircom.net>, Ahem A
>> Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> on Wed, 23 Mar 2022 at 07:43:30 awoke
>>> Don Stockbauer <donstockbauer@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We are creating a kinder, gender world.
>>>
>>> I've not used a gender bender in years - hmm I wonder what happened
>>> to my set of EF232 bits.
>>>
>> Actually, without thinking about it, we are probably all using e-gender
>> benders much of the time. These days many, if not most, USB cables are
>> male to male
>
> Publicising this Fact could have the potential to quieten a lot of
> digital idiots.
>
>
>
Ah yes, the Wonderful World of Cabling Ambiguity!
(WWoCA?)

.... where for generations we have had male sockets and female plugs!
(For those not in the know, if it has pins it is a plug and v.v. for
sockets. Similarly, if one body part goes inside another (!) it is male
into female - all perfectly logical until you see some fleabay listings)

HTH, Chris

On 23/03/2022 10:50, ChrisND@privacy.net wrote:
>>
> Ah yes, the Wonderful World of Cabling Ambiguity!
> (WWoCA?)
>
> ... where for generations we have had male sockets and female plugs!
> (For those not in the know, if it has pins it is a plug and v.v. for
> sockets. Similarly, if one body part goes inside another (!) it is male
> into female - all perfectly logical until you see some fleabay listings)

Unless you make or sell XLR connectors, where a male has pins and can be
a socket.

https://cpc.farnell.com/neutrik/nc3mpr-hd/xlr-male-socket-3p-panel/dp/AV15762

Or maybe it could be an ungendered plug.

https://cpc.farnell.com/neutrik/nc3mdl1/neutrik-xlr-panel-plug-3-way/dp/CN07178

I assume that if it has a gender, male has pins and female has orifices,
and that overrides "plug" or "socket", so a male plug has pins and a
male socket has pins, but the male socket will probably be panel
mounting. And it's always useful with XLR connectors to remember that
the pins point in the direction of the signal flow.

On 23/03/2022 12:44, Mike Fleming wrote:

> I assume that if it has a gender, male has pins and female has orifices,
> and that overrides "plug" or "socket", so a male plug has pins and a
> male socket has pins, but the male socket will probably be panel
> mounting. And it's always useful with XLR connectors to remember that
> the pins point in the direction of the signal flow.

Que? The pins are on the microphone and the holes are on the amplifiers
here, so the pins point against the signal flow in the same way as a
mains plug works. (Except that phantom power goes the other way.)

XLR pins are, however, inside a shrouded connector "plug", and the holes
are set into an otherwise flush end of the "socket"

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 12:51:34 +0000
John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:

> On 23/03/2022 12:44, Mike Fleming wrote:
>
> > I assume that if it has a gender, male has pins and female has orifices,
> > and that overrides "plug" or "socket", so a male plug has pins and a
> > male socket has pins, but the male socket will probably be panel
> > mounting. And it's always useful with XLR connectors to remember that
> > the pins point in the direction of the signal flow.
>
> Que? The pins are on the microphone and the holes are on the amplifiers
> here, so the pins point against the signal flow in the same way as a
> mains plug works. (Except that phantom power goes the other way.)

There are pins sticking out of the back of the microphone - signal
emerges from them, there are holes in the microphone end of the cable -
signal enters them, there are pins on the mixer end of the cable -
signal emerges from them, there are holes in the mixer - signal enters them.

At least that's what I have in the music room.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

Mike Fleming said:
> On 23/03/2022 10:50, ChrisND@privacy.net wrote:
>>>
>> Ah yes, the Wonderful World of Cabling Ambiguity!
>> (WWoCA?)
>>
>> ... where for generations we have had male sockets and female plugs!
>> (For those not in the know, if it has pins it is a plug and v.v. for
>> sockets. Similarly, if one body part goes inside another (!) it is male
>> into female - all perfectly logical until you see some fleabay listings)
>
> Unless you make or sell XLR connectors, where a male has pins and can be
> a socket.
>
> https://cpc.farnell.com/neutrik/nc3mpr-hd/xlr-male-socket-3p-panel/dp/AV15762
>
> Or maybe it could be an ungendered plug.
>
> https://cpc.farnell.com/neutrik/nc3mdl1/neutrik-xlr-panel-plug-3-way/dp/CN07178

Bisexual, shirley ?

> I assume that if it has a gender, male has pins and female has orifices,
> and that overrides "plug" or "socket", so a male plug has pins and a
> male socket has pins, but the male socket will probably be panel
> mounting. And it's always useful with XLR connectors to remember that
> the pins point in the direction of the signal flow.

If I had the energy, I might think about getting in on the ground floor
with a range of rainbowcoloured non-binary connectors ...

Fortunately, I don't.

--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html