On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 13:33:02 +0000, YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk>
wrote:

>I listen to Planet Rock, and yes I know it is a lot of old shite.
>But they do play new(ish) stuff, and that usually makes me go and nuy a
>CD (or 2).

Well, I do too, but even I'd say that the new stuff is pretty much
designed to sound like the old stuff.

Rock music is a heritage industry nowadays
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 05:26:34 -0800 (PST), Ben Blaney
<benblaney@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 4:29:19 PM UTC-5, Champ wrote:
>> On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 12:30:07 -0800 (PST), Stephen Packer
>> <stephen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Just had a look and sadly while I can find follow ups to TOG's post (in
>> >October 199-fucking-9) he x-noarchived his posts so they've (mostly)
>> >disappeared into the ether; a great shame since the fucker could write.

>There are two options. <snip>
>And the second is to see if he repeated any stories on reddit, where he was
>quite prolific.

Was he?! I never knew

>This is his stuff, sorted by upvotes: https://old.reddit.com/user/MisterShine/?sort=top

Ooh, ta
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

sweller wrote:
> However, I don't think I can name a new band/artist [2] - or at least
> anyone that's come about in the last ten years.
>
> I do have a full Spotify account but that's, mostly, just for listening
> to stuff I already own on CD.

Spotify's Discover Weekly is a pretty useful thing for finding new stuff. They describe it as a mixture of stuff you know, and stuff you don't. I've found loads of new stuff, though it does seem to think I lean heavily towards the 70s (with some justification) and country (wtf).

Stick this on shuffle, and get mad busy with the skip button: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/23tNnuD2GzrimQ4nx7Tfm0?si=c312696e563640a3

Or, since nobody's mentioned chart-friendly pop here since Corfield left, this: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1kQ9jZ1HuGhZrXR3I0s87I?si=6c013f3b8de348dd

On Tuesday, 18 January 2022 at 12:44:42 UTC, Pete Fisher wrote:
> Grace Petrie - all UKRMs prejudices rolled in to one.

I saw her at a benefit gig in Wimbledon a few years back. Possibly introduced by Billy Bragg.

> Socialist, feminist, left wing, protest singer.

A bit much, even by my standards.

Champ wrote:
> >Frank Turner

Earnest singer-songwriter. Lady Nina was a big fan.

> > and The Gaslight Anthem.
> Who?

Tesco Value Springsteen.

On 18/01/2022 15:18, ogden wrote:
> On Tuesday, 18 January 2022 at 12:44:42 UTC, Pete Fisher wrote:
>> Grace Petrie - all UKRMs prejudices rolled in to one.
>
> I saw her at a benefit gig in Wimbledon a few years back. Possibly introduced by Billy Bragg.
>
>

SWMBO very cross when i describe her as a cross between Lily Allen and
Billy Bragg.

>> Socialist, feminist, left wing, protest singer.
>
> A bit much, even by my standards.

Like the curate's egg if also consumed in small doses.

--
Moto Morini 2C/375, Moto Morini 2C/350
Gilera 175 Sport, Husqvarna 401 Svartpilen
1937 Sunbeam Model 14 250 Sports
"Do not adjust your mind, there is a fault in the reality"

On Tuesday, 18 January 2022 at 13:33:08 UTC, Ben Blaney wrote:
> In your case, balancing a successful career and creating some separation with an online persona seemed very wise. I did the same for a while. But you're right, in the last few years (a) I probably post fewer controversial or potentially career-limiting things, and (b) I realize that there's "a lot" out there in my name, and I've landed on the best policy being a single authentic self. I'm comfortable with that at this point.

I think the world has also changed a fair amount in the last 20 years.

Heavens, I remember receiving an email for cascading telling my team
that if they came to work wearing jeans they would be sent home and have
to make up the time, and reminding them that for men a tie was preferred.
The teams I managed looked after 'standardisation' (which meant they were
rarely in the office) and SIM/handset acceptance (which meant they never faced
a customer and rarely a supplier.) Why dress was so important is beyond me.
I think that would have been around 1998/9.

I was concerned that my online 'persona' could have compromised my
work, and I think I was right at the time. Now it's all changed and no one
would give much of a stuff.

> > Looking at what Cambridge Analytica etc. did with facebook I think his
> > paranoia was justified. The sheer amount of personal data many of us
> > just shed across social media is staggering; more than enough for
> > identity theft and possibly worse.
> Anyone who wants to be me is more than welcome to it, tbh.

Heh.

On 18/01/2022 15:16, ogden wrote:
> sweller wrote:
>> However, I don't think I can name a new band/artist [2] - or at least
>> anyone that's come about in the last ten years.
>>
>> I do have a full Spotify account but that's, mostly, just for listening
>> to stuff I already own on CD.
>
> Spotify's Discover Weekly is a pretty useful thing for finding new stuff. They describe it as a mixture of stuff you know, and stuff you don't. I've found loads of new stuff, though it does seem to think I lean heavily towards the 70s (with some justification) and country (wtf).
>
> Stick this on shuffle, and get mad busy with the skip button: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/23tNnuD2GzrimQ4nx7Tfm0?si=c312696e563640a3
>
> Or, since nobody's mentioned chart-friendly pop here since Corfield left, this: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1kQ9jZ1HuGhZrXR3I0s87I?si=6c013f3b8de348dd

I also use the Spotify daily mixes, though they can become a little
repetitive without the odd foray in to the back catalogue to educate its
algorithm. Amazing what quite esoteric 'roots' stuff there is on there
now. Big names like Planxty or Silly Wizard but some more recent folk
idiom acts.

--
Moto Morini 2C/375, Moto Morini 2C/350
Gilera 175 Sport, Husqvarna 401 Svartpilen
1937 Sunbeam Model 14 250 Sports
"Do not adjust your mind, there is a fault in the reality"

Ace wrote:

>
> > [2] New door seals will probably make a huge difference.
>
> Been there, done that, but in fact wind noise is much less of an issue
> than mechanical. I fitted soundproofing to the bonnet which made a
> huge difference, and apparently doing the same to the engine/cab
> bulkhead is even more effective, but that needs most of the engine bay
> to be stripped in order to fit, and that's waaay beyond my
> effort/reward threshold.

The Jag is soundproofed as standard - even the gearbox housing cover
has some rubber soundproofing on it. The main problem is definitely
wind noise.

--
Simon

Ace wrote:

> Android head unit

I've just looked them up - interesting.

They don't seem to have a twin spindle version.

--
Simon

sweller wrote:

> I am really, very anti-prog [1] but have a soft spot for Focus.
>
> Especially the almost brilliant use of Hocus Pocus in Baby Driver.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v6NDhHlf0A

Baby Driver does have a particularly good soundtrack, including
Brighton Rock, for example.

--
Chris

sweller wrote:

> I'm not sure if this is an age thing, or just me [1]...
>
> However, I don't think I can name a new band/artist [2] - or at least
> anyone that's come about in the last ten years.

I'm a big prog-rock fan but I also really like Rag'n'Bone Man. He's
been around for five years or so but I first saw him on Jools Holland's
show.

Which reminds me of another artist I first saw on JH's show - Chris,
formerly Christine & The Queens, although it seems that she/they have
been around since 2010.

--
Chris

On 18 Jan 2022 16:22:37 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

>Ace wrote:
>
>> Android head unit
>
>I've just looked them up - interesting.
>
>They don't seem to have a twin spindle version.

A what now? You mean with physical buttons and stuff? Most of them
have a minimalist on/off switch and volume control, some also
additional buttons to switch between apps.

There are hundreds to choose from. many in vehicle-specific housings,
but not for the TD5 Defender, nor, I'm sure, for yours.

The problem on the defender is that akthough there's enough surface
area, once the radio cassette is removed, for a double-Din unit to
fit, the space behind it is not deep enough. So I had to hunt for one
that was only recessed by about half of most of them, which seem to be
based on previous standard sizes that were required for physical
CD/DVD drives.

In addition the plastic dash needed a reinforcing metal cover, which
thankfully, like most things LandRover, is manufactured on a small
scale and easily, and cheaply, available. Just a machined bit of ally,
black painted, with holes for all the existing buttons and switches.
Looks great, you'd never know it wasn't OEM.

--
Ace
http://www.chaletbeauroc.com/

Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>I listen to Planet Rock, and yes I know it is a lot of old shite.
>>But they do play new(ish) stuff, and that usually makes me go and nuy a
>>CD (or 2).
>
> Well, I do too, but even I'd say that the new stuff is pretty much
> designed to sound like the old stuff.
>
> Rock music is a heritage industry nowadays

I still enjoy 70s and 80s stuff such as Queen and The Who but the radio
in the van stays tuned to Classic FM for relaxing musical wallpaper when
I am driving. Rap and its myriad derivatives just annoys me enough to
reach for the off button.

--
http://www.netunix.com/

CT wrote:

> > I am really, very anti-prog [1] but have a soft spot for Focus.
> >
> > Especially the almost brilliant use of Hocus Pocus in Baby Driver.
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v6NDhHlf0A
>
> Baby Driver does have a particularly good soundtrack, including
> Brighton Rock, for example.

I read that they had cleared all the music before filming started
(unuusually and at some expense) as the action was choreographed to the
beat (as in the Focus bit).

It was described as a musical without musical "numbers"

--
Simon

Ace wrote:

> >> Android head unit
> >
> > I've just looked them up - interesting.
> >
> > They don't seem to have a twin spindle version.
>
> A what now? You mean with physical buttons and stuff? Most of them
> have a minimalist on/off switch and volume control, some also
> additional buttons to switch between apps.

The Jag doesn't have a DIN aperture - it has the old twin spindle
arrangement.
https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/254831214853_/Radiomobile-980-classic-car-radio-dual-polarity.jpg

--
Simon

"CT" <me@christrollen.co.uk> wrote in news:ss6s67$d8e$1@dont-email.me:

> sweller wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure if this is an age thing, or just me [1]...
>>
>> However, I don't think I can name a new band/artist [2] - or at least
>> anyone that's come about in the last ten years.
>
> I'm a big prog-rock fan but I also really like Rag'n'Bone Man. He's
> been around for five years or so but I first saw him on Jools
Holland's
> show.
>
> Which reminds me of another artist I first saw on JH's show - Chris,
> formerly Christine & The Queens, although it seems that she/they have
> been around since 2010.
>

I've picked up a few new ones from Jools but I think they got fewer in
the last couple of years doing the full shows, so 2018-19. Just
checking, it seems it's a while since one was added to playlists in
Spotify. That was Vintage Trouble who were on Jools in 2011. They are
very much a "heritage" rock band that Champ was referring to.

I've also picked up a couple from Youtube suggestions. This chap does
some nice covers and an increasing number of original songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpQMHKJaZT0

Like others have mentioned, I also listen to the daily mix lists curated
by Spotify based on what they think I like. They are getting a bit samey
as Pete Fisher mentioned.

I have just started a free month on Youtube Music to see if they have
better algorithms based on what videos I have watched in the past...

On 18/01/2022 10:17, Ace wrote:
>
> I don't think it's in any way connected with the means of delivery
> though. More, I put it down to Disney and the like bombarding kids
> with warbly stuff like "let it go" from a very young age. The voice
> style that seems to have become the norm in recent years just grates
> on me something awful.

Autotune is being used as a ubiquitous vocal effect and is distinctly
annoying. It's not that the singers can't sing in tune (mostly, anyway),
it just became a fashion sometime post-Cher and hasn't stopped being a
fashion.

On 18 Jan 2022 06:53:29 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

>
> Old cars are very noisy

Heh. When I bought the series 3 it had a radio that didn't work.
Soon found out why it was pointless trying to get it to work.

>- even if they have grace, space and
>pace

It had space! LWB innit.
--
Mark Roberts

On 18 Jan 2022 16:18:29 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

>Ace wrote:
>
>>
>> > [2] New door seals will probably make a huge difference.
>>
>> Been there, done that, but in fact wind noise is much less of an issue
>> than mechanical. I fitted soundproofing to the bonnet which made a
>> huge difference, and apparently doing the same to the engine/cab
>> bulkhead is even more effective, but that needs most of the engine bay
>> to be stripped in order to fit, and that's waaay beyond my
>> effort/reward threshold.
>
>The Jag is soundproofed as standard - even the gearbox housing cover
>has some rubber soundproofing on it. The main problem is definitely
>wind noise.

My Landrover was incredibly quite if you removed the top and drove it
jeep style. It was all wind noise (maybe some racket from the various
panels moving about).
--
Mark Roberts

On 18 Jan 2022 07:00:05 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

>I do have a full Spotify account but that's, mostly, just for listening
>to stuff I already own on CD.
>
Getting a Spotify account has expanded my music taste.
I hardly ever listen to the stuff I liked years ago.
Except punk; I still listen to punk. And Hawkwind.
Now it's often stuff from the nineties that must have bored in to my
subconcious somehow.
--
Mark Roberts

On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 05:36:50 -0800 (PST), Ben Blaney
<benblaney@gmail.com> wrote:

> But what's great is the AI-generated playlists.
>

+1
Spotifys 'radio' (for artists or songs) has led me down some loooong
listening rabbit holes
--
Mark Roberts

On 18/01/2022 15:21, ogden wrote:
> Champ wrote:
>>> Frank Turner
>
> Earnest singer-songwriter. Lady Nina was a big fan.
>

Quite entertaining live, though you do get to hear the crowd singing a lot.

>>> and The Gaslight Anthem.
>> Who?
>
> Tesco Value Springsteen.

No idea.

<small voice> I quite like *some* poppy trashy stuff. Also some of the
Beeb new artist of the year or whatever it's called. In recent-ish times
Jack Garratt was pretty damn good. I really liked this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2GTddbSe4Y

--
/Simon

On 18/01/2022 17:08, CT wrote:
> sweller wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure if this is an age thing, or just me [1]...
>>
>> However, I don't think I can name a new band/artist [2] - or at least
>> anyone that's come about in the last ten years.
>
> I'm a big prog-rock fan but I also really like Rag'n'Bone Man. He's
> been around for five years or so but I first saw him on Jools Holland's
> show.
>
> Which reminds me of another artist I first saw on JH's show - Chris,
> formerly Christine & The Queens, although it seems that she/they have
> been around since 2010.
>

Yeah, I think I first saw her/them/they watching Glastonbury on the
tellybox. Quite interesting. <googles> "Tilted" was the song.

--
/Simon

On 18/01/2022 13:26, Ben Blaney wrote:
> On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 4:29:19 PM UTC-5, Champ wrote:
>> On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 12:30:07 -0800 (PST), Stephen Packer
>> <stephen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Just had a look and sadly while I can find follow ups to TOG's post (in
>>> October 199-fucking-9) he x-noarchived his posts so they've (mostly)
>>> disappeared into the ether; a great shame since the fucker could write.
>
> There are two options. One, is search for posts by YTC#1, who famously does not snip (sorry Bruce, but old memes die hard). And the second is to see if he repeated any stories on reddit, where he was quite prolific. This is his stuff, sorted by upvotes: https://old.reddit.com/user/MisterShine/?sort=top
>

<clicks> He knew about the poop knife!

--
/Simon