Colin Irvine <look@colinandpat.co.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Jan 2022 10:42:46 +0000, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 22:21:30 +0000, YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>> I think you know the answer to that, snow in 4 wheels is just fun. :-)
>>
>>>> Front, rear, four or all wheel drive? I have good memories of an old
>>>> RWD Escort, goinng sideways in Wales, but a lot of less fun
>>
>>>Capri :-)
>>
>>LOL! I can't imagine!
>>
>>My BMW 330 was bad enough (such that I kept a shovel in the boot in
>>winter), but I can't quite imagine what an old Capri would be like in
>>the snow
>
> I can tell you what one was like in foggy icy Northumberland in the
> dead of night doing selectives on a road rally. Scarey!

I had a 2 litre Capri automatic. Tailhappy at the best of times, a
lethal beast on snow or ice.
I hate to think what the 2.8 would have been like on the slippy stuff.

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On 1/21/2022 11:57 PM, Pete Fisher wrote:
> On 22/01/2022 01:05, Turby wrote:
>> Well. It's been quite a day so far.
>
> I heard that in the voice of Garrison Keillor.
>
> "Well, it's been a quiet week in ..."
>
> Weather, or more accurately perhaps, climate envy alert. Does the sun
> really always shine in SoCal? Been a fair amount of sun here, but also
> colder than some winters of late. Proper hard frosts and some fog.
>
We average 10" of rain per year, but last year we only got 7.8". Not
much. Weather isn't much of an excuse not to ride here.
As for sun, there is what's known as May Gray and June Gloom, when the
clouds hang around. Otherwise, there is occasional "night and morning
low clouds" which is the coastal fog that burns off by late morning.
>
> Are you likely to be able to get across the pond this year?
>
I'd love to. Will Covid let me?

--
The erstwhile Thomas
FJR1300, R1200GS, ST1100 (in memoriam)

On 26/01/2022 10:42, Champ wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 22:21:30 +0000, YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>>> I think you know the answer to that, snow in 4 wheels is just fun. :-)
>
>>> Front, rear, four or all wheel drive? I have good memories of an old
>>> RWD Escort, goinng sideways in Wales, but a lot of less fun
>
>> Capri :-)
>
> LOL! I can't imagine!

I'd like another one, but the prices !
(Note, Gibbo still has 2.... one still has no roof)
>
> My BMW 330 was bad enough (such that I kept a shovel in the boot in
> winter), but I can't quite imagine what an old Capri would be like in
> the snow

I think "slidey arse" sums it. Even without the snow.

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On 26/01/2022 21:15, Pipl wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Jan 2022 20:18:23 +0000, YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk>
><did I snip enough?>

>> I think "slidey arse" sums it. Even without the snow.
>
> I've only driven a Capri once - it was a (believe it or not) company
> car that I'd borrowed to go to omewhere around Birmingham or
> Wolverhampton. Trying to geot onto a roundabout - in the dry - while
> overtaking a lorry, I perhapes gave it too much boot: it was like
> someone grabbed the steering wheel and gave it a yank. Luckily stayed
> pointing in the right direction.
>
>
But that was what I loved about them, and the sun roof :-)

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Bruce Porter
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On 26/01/2022 19:27, Turby wrote:
> On 1/21/2022 11:57 PM, Pete Fisher wrote:
>> On 22/01/2022 01:05, Turby wrote:
>>> Well. It's been quite a day so far.
>>
>> I heard that in the voice of Garrison Keillor.
>>
>> "Well, it's been a quiet week in ..."
>>
>> Weather, or more accurately perhaps, climate envy alert. Does the sun
>> really always shine in SoCal? Been a fair amount of sun here, but also
>> colder than some winters of late. Proper hard frosts and some fog.
>>
> We average 10" of rain per year, but last year we only got 7.8". Not
> much. Weather isn't much of an excuse not to ride here.
> As for sun, there is what's known as May Gray and June Gloom, when the
> clouds hang around. Otherwise, there is occasional "night and morning
> low clouds" which is the coastal fog that burns off by late morning.
>>
>> Are you likely to be able to get across the pond this year?
>>
> I'd love to. Will Covid let me?
>

See other reply.

Who knows? Depends on whether the variant of the year is a bugger or not
perhaps. Though the UK gummint appears to have cast our fate to the
winds, so we will be letting in anyone. Germany might be your issue.

--
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Gilera 175 Sport, Husqvarna 401 Svartpilen
1937 Sunbeam Model 14 250 Sports
"Do not adjust your mind, there is a fault in the reality"

On Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 2:27:32 PM UTC-5, Turby wrote:
> On 1/21/2022 11:57 PM, Pete Fisher wrote:
> >
> > Are you likely to be able to get across the pond this year?
> >
> I'd love to. Will Covid let me?

Yup. Very straightforward. I've done it three times in the last 9 months, and am doing it again next week.

All the information is here: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/travel-to-england-from-another-country-during-coronavirus-covid-19

Ben Blaney wrote:
> Turby wrote:
> > Pete Fisher wrote:
> > > Are you likely to be able to get across the pond this year?
> > >
> > I'd love to. Will Covid let me?
>
> Yup. Very straightforward. I've done it three times in the last 9 months, and am doing it again next week.
>
> All the information is here: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/travel-to-england-from-another-country-during-coronavirus-covid-19

It gets even easier soon too: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/24/england-to-end-covid-testing-for-double-vaccinated-travellers-says-johnson

I'm itching to do a dash to Belgium, because I'm down to my last five bottles of Rochefort and I'm fucked if I'm paying a 300% markup over here when I can bring five crates back in the van. I think we're *almost* at the point where it's worth doing, and the cost of tests doesn't screw the economics.

On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 02:57:58 -0800 (PST), ogden <eldaifo@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I think we're *almost* at the point where it's worth doing, and the cost of tests doesn't screw the economics.

From Feb 11th you no longer need a test to (re-)enter the UK.
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On 27/01/2022 10:57, ogden wrote:
> Ben Blaney wrote:
>> Turby wrote:
>>> Pete Fisher wrote:
>>>> Are you likely to be able to get across the pond this year?
>>>>
>>> I'd love to. Will Covid let me?
>>
>> Yup. Very straightforward. I've done it three times in the last 9 months, and am doing it again next week.
>>
>> All the information is here: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/travel-to-england-from-another-country-during-coronavirus-covid-19
>
> It gets even easier soon too: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/24/england-to-end-covid-testing-for-double-vaccinated-travellers-says-johnson
>
> I'm itching to do a dash to Belgium, because I'm down to my last five bottles of Rochefort and I'm fucked if I'm paying a 300% markup over here when I can bring five crates back in the van. I think we're *almost* at the point where it's worth doing, and the cost of tests doesn't screw the economics.

The lad is sallying forth this weekend to Paris - on a pedal cycle FFS!
Only requirement seems to be a LFT before going out on the tunnel or
ferry (plus paperwork locator stuff).

Already checked that pikey F1 hotels will let him take his bicycle in to
his room.

An ambitious itinerary by pedal power, given the number of days. Still,
he is in training for a Triathlon in the spring. His mother is worried
there will be a blizzard and he will end up frozen stiff in a hedge
bottom somewhere on the 'avenue verte'.

https://www.avenuevertelondonparis.co.uk/

--
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Gilera 175 Sport, Husqvarna 401 Svartpilen
1937 Sunbeam Model 14 250 Sports
"Do not adjust your mind, there is a fault in the reality"

On 27/01/2022 12:17, Pete Fisher wrote:
> On 27/01/2022 10:57, ogden wrote:
>> Ben Blaney wrote:
>>> Turby wrote:
>>>> Pete Fisher wrote:
>>>>> Are you likely to be able to get across the pond this year?
>>>>>
>>>> I'd love to. Will Covid let me?
>>>
>>> Yup. Very straightforward. I've done it three times in the last 9
>>> months, and am doing it again next week.
>>>
>>> All the information is here:
>>> https://www.gov.uk/guidance/travel-to-england-from-another-country-during-coronavirus-covid-19
>>>
>>
>> It gets even easier soon too:
>> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/24/england-to-end-covid-testing-for-double-vaccinated-travellers-says-johnson
>>
>>
>> I'm itching to do a dash to Belgium, because I'm down to my last five
>> bottles of Rochefort and I'm fucked if I'm paying a 300% markup over
>> here when I can bring five crates back in the van. I think we're
>> *almost* at the point where it's worth doing, and the cost of tests
>> doesn't screw the economics.
>
> The lad is sallying forth this weekend to Paris - on a pedal cycle FFS!

Good man!

I keep contemplating a Euro cycle ride. In warmer months.

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

On 27/01/2022 12:23, YTC#1 wrote:
>
>
> On 27/01/2022 12:17, Pete Fisher wrote:
>> On 27/01/2022 10:57, ogden wrote:
>>> Ben Blaney wrote:
>>>> Turby wrote:
>>>>> Pete Fisher wrote:
>>>>>> Are you likely to be able to get across the pond this year?
>>>>>>
>>>>> I'd love to. Will Covid let me?
>>>>
>>>> Yup. Very straightforward. I've done it three times in the last 9
>>>> months, and am doing it again next week.
>>>>
>>>> All the information is here:
>>>> https://www.gov.uk/guidance/travel-to-england-from-another-country-during-coronavirus-covid-19
>>>>
>>>
>>> It gets even easier soon too:
>>> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/24/england-to-end-covid-testing-for-double-vaccinated-travellers-says-johnson
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm itching to do a dash to Belgium, because I'm down to my last five
>>> bottles of Rochefort and I'm fucked if I'm paying a 300% markup over
>>> here when I can bring five crates back in the van. I think we're
>>> *almost* at the point where it's worth doing, and the cost of tests
>>> doesn't screw the economics.
>>
>> The lad is sallying forth this weekend to Paris - on a pedal cycle FFS!
>
> Good man!
>
> I keep contemplating a Euro cycle ride. In warmer months.
>
>

Hoh yuss. We may revisit the Velodyssee again. The sections near Bayonne
were great. The cycles will be transported to sunnier climes by UKRM
clit vehicle though, naturally.

https://www.cycling-lavelodyssee.com/
--
Moto Morini 2C/375, Moto Morini 2C/350
Gilera 175 Sport, Husqvarna 401 Svartpilen
1937 Sunbeam Model 14 250 Sports
"Do not adjust your mind, there is a fault in the reality"

Ace wrote:
> ogden <eld...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I think we're *almost* at the point where it's worth doing, and the cost of tests doesn't screw the economics.
>
> From Feb 11th you no longer need a test to (re-)enter the UK.

Are you taking the piss, or just not bothering to read the bits you snip?

On 27/01/2022 12:17, Pete Fisher wrote:
>
> The lad is sallying forth this weekend to Paris - on a pedal cycle FFS!
> Only requirement seems to be a LFT before going out on the tunnel or
> ferry (plus paperwork locator stuff).
>
> Already checked that pikey F1 hotels will let him take his bicycle in to
> his room.
>
> An ambitious itinerary by pedal power, given the number of days. Still,
> he is in training for a Triathlon in the spring. His mother is worried
> there will be a blizzard and he will end up frozen stiff in a hedge
> bottom somewhere on the 'avenue verte'.

If he's training for a triathlon, shouldn't he be swimming the Channel?

On 27/01/2022 21:42, Mike Fleming wrote:
> On 27/01/2022 12:17, Pete Fisher wrote:
>>
>> The lad is sallying forth this weekend to Paris - on a pedal cycle FFS!
>> Only requirement seems to be a LFT before going out on the tunnel or
>> ferry (plus paperwork locator stuff).
>>
>> Already checked that pikey F1 hotels will let him take his bicycle in
>> to his room.
>>
>> An ambitious itinerary by pedal power, given the number of days.
>> Still, he is in training for a Triathlon in the spring. His mother is
>> worried there will be a blizzard and he will end up frozen stiff in a
>> hedge bottom somewhere on the 'avenue verte'.
>
> If he's training for a triathlon, shouldn't he be swimming the Channel?

GPWM

--
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Gilera 175 Sport, Husqvarna 401 Svartpilen
1937 Sunbeam Model 14 250 Sports
"Do not adjust your mind, there is a fault in the reality"

Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> wrote:
> On 27/01/2022 12:17, Pete Fisher wrote:
>>
>> The lad is sallying forth this weekend to Paris - on a pedal cycle FFS!
>> Only requirement seems to be a LFT before going out on the tunnel or
>> ferry (plus paperwork locator stuff).
>>
>> Already checked that pikey F1 hotels will let him take his bicycle in to
>> his room.
>>
>> An ambitious itinerary by pedal power, given the number of days. Still,
>> he is in training for a Triathlon in the spring. His mother is worried
>> there will be a blizzard and he will end up frozen stiff in a hedge
>> bottom somewhere on the 'avenue verte'.
>
> If he's training for a triathlon, shouldn't he be swimming the Channel?

Carrying a hundredweight of his sponsor's bricks...

--
FJR1300A, GL1000, KLR650A6F, EX250J9A, DR200SE, Vespa Ciao

On 27/01/2022 18:57 ogden penned these words:
> Ben Blaney wrote:
>> Turby wrote:
>>> Pete Fisher wrote:
>>>> Are you likely to be able to get across the pond this year?
>>>>
>>> I'd love to. Will Covid let me?
>>
>> Yup. Very straightforward. I've done it three times in the last 9 months, and am doing it again next week.
>>
>> All the information is here: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/travel-to-england-from-another-country-during-coronavirus-covid-19
>
> It gets even easier soon too: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/24/england-to-end-covid-testing-for-double-vaccinated-travellers-says-johnson

Although having just sprung for some airplane tickets I mentioned this to the
agent and they say the airline is still initialising.

--
Ian

"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of
the last priest"

YTC#1 wrote:

> > There's also the time in June 2001 when Alex Ferrier, Bonwick and me
> > were thwarted by a road being very seriously closed with snow on our
> > way back from the UKRM Mugello trip.

> Are we playing snow top trumps now?

It's a bit shaky-cam but it was mounted on my Armstrong and it was also
bloody cold.

http://sweller.dynalias.org/images/ukrm/Norway2011.jpg

--
Simon

Champ wrote:

> > Capri :-)
>
> LOL! I can't imagine!
>
> My BMW 330 was bad enough (such that I kept a shovel in the boot in
> winter), but I can't quite imagine what an old Capri would be like in
> the snow

My Jag 3.8s is pretty well mannered in snow, but they do have LSD [1]
as standard.

[1] Mmmm, spacey.

--
Simon

Champ wrote:

> For some bizarre reason, motorhomes are really popular here
> on the IoM,

Perhaps the no caravans rule is a factor?

--
Simon

Salad Dodger wrote:

> Road Glide has the square twin lamp fairing.

I'm not being rude about Harley for the sake of it, not that it takes
much, but the Harley range of fairings are utterly vile.

They look like something from the adverts at the back of a 1970s
"Motorcycle Mechanics".

--
Simon

Ace wrote:

> >> For the best view, book your flight in August or early September.
> >
> > Not creepy at all.
>
> If you think letching at scantily-clad women is creepy, I'd suggest
> that you've lost your way a bit. No, make that a lot.

I'd suggest quite the opposite, if you don't think letching...

I'm with ogden on this.

--
Simon

On 28 Jan 2022 08:08:34 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

>Champ wrote:
>
>> For some bizarre reason, motorhomes are really popular here
>> on the IoM,

>Perhaps the no caravans rule is a factor?

well, yes, but still.
--
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neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 12:17:19 +0000, Pete Fisher
<peter@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>The lad is sallying forth this weekend to Paris - on a pedal cycle FFS!

>An ambitious itinerary by pedal power, given the number of days.

How many days?

>His mother is worried
>there will be a blizzard and he will end up frozen stiff in a hedge
>bottom somewhere on the 'avenue verte'.

Yeah, that's mothers for you
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 07:18:12 +0000 (GMT+00:00), Pip Luscher
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>Ace <Ace@ch.com> Wrote in message:
>> From Feb 11th you no longer need a test to (re-)enter the UK.
>
>Bugger. Missed by one day!

Yeah, I thought of you guys. There's a testing place just over in
Chatel though, so it won't be a problem.
--
Ace
http://www.chaletbeauroc.com/

On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 10:57:59 AM UTC, ogden wrote:
> Ben Blaney wrote:
> > Turby wrote:
> > > Pete Fisher wrote:
> > > > Are you likely to be able to get across the pond this year?
> > > >
> > > I'd love to. Will Covid let me?
> >
> > Yup. Very straightforward. I've done it three times in the last 9 months, and am doing it again next week.
> >
> > All the information is here: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/travel-to-england-from-another-country-during-coronavirus-covid-19
> It gets even easier soon too: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/24/england-to-end-covid-testing-for-double-vaccinated-travellers-says-johnson
>
> I'm itching to do a dash to Belgium, because I'm down to my last five bottles of Rochefort and I'm fucked if I'm paying a 300% markup over here when I can bring five crates back in the van. I think we're *almost* at the point where it's worth doing, and the cost of tests doesn't screw the economics.

Are the border farce OK with food and drink ?
I've read various stories (unverified gossip) about people having stuff confiscated.
Got a couple of BBQ comps in Belgium coming up starting march onwards.