On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 17:57:59 +0100, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:

>>Oh, you need the test *before* you fly? PCR?
>>
>>I had been assuming that I didn't need to worry about this, cos I'll
>>be staying airside and flying on to the IOM within a few hours

>Check the Swiss gov website for entry requirements to get here.
>https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/en/home/krankheiten/ausbrueche-epidemien-pandemien/aktuelle-ausbrueche-epidemien/novel-cov/empfehlungen-fuer-reisende/quarantaene-einreisende.html#-1582639405

Yes, happy enough with getting into ch

>No idea what you need to get back to IoM specifically
proof of vaccination

>, but the
>lateral-flow test has been sufficient for the UK for a few weeks now.
>Results in a couple of hours, we can pop over to Chatel the day before
>you leave.

We've got a couple of dozen LFT self-test kits here (results in 15
mins), and I was going to bring a handful. But you sounds like it has
to be an 'official test', administered by a medic?
--
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neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 16:49:52 +0000, Pete Fisher
<peter@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>>>>> An ambitious itinerary by pedal power, given the number of days.

>>>> How many days?
>>> Seven. Starting from and returning to that London.
>> 470km (from the website) in 7 days, then. That's less than 70km a
>> day, which is only 40-ish miles. Easy for a fit youngster

>That's one way though. He's doing the round trip, so 80ish.

d'oh. Of course

>He trains at a gym several evenings a week.
>I'm sure each leg won't
>be a problem but I wonder about sustaining it each day. He used to get
>very winded on the odd occasion he did MTB races back when he was in his
>early teens.

uh huh

Cycling 80 miles a day out in the wind by yourself is a *completely*
different challenge from cycling in a group where you take it in turns
to lead. The former would be genuinely hard (imo), and the latter
relatively easy. Is he planning to ride with others on the trip? If
not, ask him to reconsider

>"He'll be fine."
Of course he will
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 16:50:12 +0000, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:

>On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 17:57:59 +0100, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:

>>, but the
>>lateral-flow test has been sufficient for the UK for a few weeks now.
>>Results in a couple of hours, we can pop over to Chatel the day before
>>you leave.
>
>We've got a couple of dozen LFT self-test kits here (results in 15
>mins), and I was going to bring a handful. But you sounds like it has
>to be an 'official test', administered by a medic?

As I say, you should check what the requirements are for you if you're
just transiting, but the UK in general needs a proper certified test,
yes. Up to a few weeks ago it had to be the PCR, which is why I
mentioned the LFT.
--
Ace
http://www.chaletbeauroc.com/

On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 18:05:43 +0100, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 16:50:12 +0000, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 17:57:59 +0100, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
>
>>>, but the
>>>lateral-flow test has been sufficient for the UK for a few weeks now.
>>>Results in a couple of hours, we can pop over to Chatel the day before
>>>you leave.
>>
>>We've got a couple of dozen LFT self-test kits here (results in 15
>>mins), and I was going to bring a handful. But you sounds like it has
>>to be an 'official test', administered by a medic?
>
>As I say, you should check what the requirements are for you if you're
>just transiting, but the UK in general needs a proper certified test,
>yes. Up to a few weeks ago it had to be the PCR, which is why I
>mentioned the LFT.

On further investigation, it looks like we got it wrong, no test
required if you are fully vaccinated. Not sure when that change came
in.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-testing-for-people-travelling-to-england#how-to-provide-proof-of-a-negative-test-result
--
Ace
http://www.chaletbeauroc.com/

On 29/01/2022 13:21, Higgins wrote:
> siwilson <siwilson@nodamnspam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 28/01/2022 13:36, Pete Fisher wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> CONCAT(dg, seven, 2)
>>>
>>
>>
>> Blimey, you've got it bad.
>>
>
> Well, I’ve sent something and it hasn’t bounced back so I might have
> understood it.
>

Not got through. Though it sounds as if someone has. Perhaps easier if I
ping you on FB instead.

--
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Gilera 175 Sport, Husqvarna 401 Svartpilen
1937 Sunbeam Model 14 250 Sports
"Do not adjust your mind, there is a fault in the reality"

On 29/01/2022 16:53, Champ wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 16:49:52 +0000, Pete Fisher
> <peter@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>>>>> An ambitious itinerary by pedal power, given the number of days.
>
>>>>> How many days?
>
>>>> Seven. Starting from and returning to that London.
>
>>> 470km (from the website) in 7 days, then. That's less than 70km a
>>> day, which is only 40-ish miles. Easy for a fit youngster
>
>> That's one way though. He's doing the round trip, so 80ish.
>
> d'oh. Of course
>
>> He trains at a gym several evenings a week.
>> I'm sure each leg won't
>> be a problem but I wonder about sustaining it each day. He used to get
>> very winded on the odd occasion he did MTB races back when he was in his
>> early teens.
>
> uh huh
>
> Cycling 80 miles a day out in the wind by yourself is a *completely*
> different challenge from cycling in a group where you take it in turns
> to lead. The former would be genuinely hard (imo), and the latter
> relatively easy. Is he planning to ride with others on the trip? If
> not, ask him to reconsider

On his tod and with panniers on his cycle. Windy on Sunday apparently
(though a calm crossing Newhaven - Dieppe overnight tomorrow for a very
early strat) by the look of it.

He already has reconsidered, but he hasn't let us in on his entire
modified itinerary yet. May just go as far as Beauvais.

>
>> "He'll be fine."
> Of course he will

Fairly resilient usually. Physically, I expect he will be OK. Despite
having spent the equivalent of 3 months of the years in France between
2003 and 2011, however, his command of French is hardly extensive. Also
a poor sense of geography and topography. He relies totally on Google
maps on his phone. Trying to get him to load a navigational app with a
map of France actually on his device. Then he has to keep it charged so
hoping he will take the advice to get a paper map.

--
Moto Morini 2C/375, Moto Morini 2C/350
Gilera 175 Sport, Husqvarna 401 Svartpilen
1937 Sunbeam Model 14 250 Sports
"Do not adjust your mind, there is a fault in the reality"

On 29/01/2022 17:37, Pete Fisher wrote:
> On 29/01/2022 16:53, Champ wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 16:49:52 +0000, Pete Fisher
>> <peter@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> An ambitious itinerary by pedal power, given the number of days.
>>>>>> How many days?
>>>>> Seven. Starting from and returning to that London.
>>>> 470km (from the website) in 7 days, then.  That's less than 70km a
>>>> day, which is only 40-ish miles.  Easy for a fit youngster
>>
>>> That's one way though. He's doing the round trip, so 80ish.
>>
>> d'oh.  Of course
>>
>>> He trains at a gym several evenings a week.
>>> I'm sure each leg won't
>>> be a problem but I wonder about sustaining it each day. He used to get
>>> very winded on the odd occasion he did MTB races back when he was in his
>>> early teens.
>>
>> uh huh
>>
>> Cycling 80 miles a day out in the wind by yourself is a *completely*
>> different challenge from cycling in a group where you take it in turns
>> to lead.  The former would be genuinely hard (imo), and the latter
>> relatively easy.  Is he planning to ride with others on the trip?  If
>> not, ask him to reconsider
>
>
> On his tod and with panniers on his cycle. Windy on Sunday apparently
> (though a calm crossing Newhaven - Dieppe overnight tomorrow for a very
> early strat) by the look of it.
>
> He already has reconsidered, but he hasn't let us in on his entire
> modified itinerary yet. May just go as far as Beauvais.
>
>>
>>> "He'll be fine."
>> Of course he will
>
>
> Fairly resilient usually. Physically, I expect he will be OK. Despite
> having spent the equivalent of 3 months of the years in France between
> 2003 and 2011, however, his command of French is hardly extensive. Also
> a poor sense of geography and topography. He relies totally on Google
> maps on his phone. Trying to get him to load a navigational app with a
> map of France actually on his device. Then he has to keep it charged so
> hoping he will take the advice to get a paper map.
>
>
>
>
>

<Checks forecast>

Ah, he will now get the wind on Monday it seems and a rough last couple
of hours on the ferry. Following wind though so his panniers will act as
sail without too much crosswind hopefully. Might advise him to hunker
down in Dieppe for the day though.

--
Moto Morini 2C/375, Moto Morini 2C/350
Gilera 175 Sport, Husqvarna 401 Svartpilen
1937 Sunbeam Model 14 250 Sports
"Do not adjust your mind, there is a fault in the reality"

On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 19:36:09 +0000, Pipl <pluscher@live.co.uk> wrote:

>On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 18:10:31 +0100, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
>
>>On further investigation, it looks like we got it wrong, no test
>>required if you are fully vaccinated. Not sure when that change came
>>in.
>>https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-testing-for-people-travelling-to-england#how-to-provide-proof-of-a-negative-test-result
>
>That what it seems to me: fully vaccinated so only a Passenger Locator
>Form for entry to CH; day 2 LFT for return to UK. No idea about
>foreigners in transit though.

We seem to be in agreement :-)

>You'd think they'd at least try to make the rules understandable,
>wouldn't you?

To be fair, I don't think they're that difficult, it's just that
there's been lots of changes, which reflects the changing situation
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 17:37:19 +0000, Pete Fisher
<peter@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>>> "He'll be fine."

>> Of course he will

>Fairly resilient usually. Physically, I expect he will be OK. Despite
>having spent the equivalent of 3 months of the years in France between
>2003 and 2011, however, his command of French is hardly extensive. Also
>a poor sense of geography and topography. He relies totally on Google
>maps on his phone.

So, to recap
- By himself
- Limited French
- Topographically challenged
- Arrogance of youth

Yeah, he'll be fine :-)
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

Champ wrote:

> > Fairly resilient usually. Physically, I expect he will be OK.
> > Despite having spent the equivalent of 3 months of the years in
> > France between 2003 and 2011, however, his command of French is
> > hardly extensive. Also a poor sense of geography and topography. He
> > relies totally on Google maps on his phone.
>
> So, to recap
> - By himself
> - Limited French
> - Topographically challenged
> - Arrogance of youth
>
> Yeah, he'll be fine :-)

It's pretty much a description of what I did when driving a Morris
Minor round East Germany, but with limited German.

--
Simon

On Monday, 24 January 2022 at 09:23:09 UTC, Champ wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2022 12:57:43 -0800, Turby <xs...@xmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On 1/22/2022 12:20 PM, CT wrote:
> >> Turby wrote:
> >>
> >>> Well. It's been quite a day so far.
> >>
> >> Nice.
> >>
> >> I'm happy that I've ridden the PCH, albeit on a rented Harley Road
> >> Glide but I'd much rather ride the Great Ocean Road in Victoria, Aus
> >> which I've only done in a car.
>
> >Yeah, the PCH varies quite a bit, from twisty mountains to suburban
> >bikini stoplights. The fun roads here are all inland.
> And now I wanna know what a 'bikini stoplight' is!

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who wondered that..

--
Speedgazebo

YTC#1 wrote:

> > > Are we playing snow top trumps now?
> >
> > It's a bit shaky-cam but it was mounted on my Armstrong and it was
> > also bloody cold.
> >
> > http://sweller.dynalias.org/images/ukrm/Norway2011.jpg
> >
>
> Isn't it cheating ig you have snow tyres? :-)

The tyres themselves weren't snow tyres but they did have studs.

--
Simon

Pipl wrote:

> > Happening to be there and unobtrusively enjoying the view, no
> > biggie.
> >
> > Recommending the place for the view, bit creepy.
>
> I think you're overanalysing the entire conversiation, TBH.

If it looks like a duck etc.

--
Simon

On Monday, 31 January 2022 at 12:17:20 UTC, sweller wrote:
> YTC#1 wrote:
>
> > > > Are we playing snow top trumps now?
> > >
> > > It's a bit shaky-cam but it was mounted on my Armstrong and it was
> > > also bloody cold.
> > >
> > > http://sweller.dynalias.org/images/ukrm/Norway2011.jpg
> > >
> >
> > Isn't it cheating ig you have snow tyres? :-)
>
> The tyres themselves weren't snow tyres but they did have studs.

And there had been the journey (at night, including losing a chain...) from
Oslo to Hamar without studs fitted.

Almost ashamed to admit I hadn't realised we were riding on hard packed ice
at that time. Too traumatised from 'the chain' and lying in the road trying to
avoid being hit by a lorry as I untangled/re-adjusted/bodged it.

On 1/31/2022 4:18 AM, sweller wrote:
> Pipl wrote:
>
>>> Happening to be there and unobtrusively enjoying the view, no
>>> biggie.
>>>
>>> Recommending the place for the view, bit creepy.
>>
>> I think you're overanalysing the entire conversiation, TBH.
>
> If it looks like a duck etc.
>
If you actually read the post where the subject came up, I was
recommending the inland roads, not the traffic plagued beach areas.

--
The erstwhile Thomas
FJR1300, R1200GS, ST1100 (in memoriam)

Turby wrote:
> sweller wrote:
> > Pipl wrote:
> >>> Happening to be there and unobtrusively enjoying the view, no
> >>> biggie.
> >>>
> >>> Recommending the place for the view, bit creepy.
> >>
> >> I think you're overanalysing the entire conversiation, TBH.
> >
> > If it looks like a duck etc.
> >
> If you actually read the post where the subject came up, I was
> recommending the inland roads, not the traffic plagued beach areas.

The actual post I replied to, word-for-word, was this:

"It's where hordes of babes have to wait before crossing from their
neighborhoods to the beach where they hang out for the day.
For the best view, book your flight in August or early September."

I know it was a quip, but trust me, the thought of middle-aged to geriatric men going somewhere just to look at women and girls maybe a quarter of their age in swimwear, while simply waiting to cross the road, is pretty much the dictionary definition of creepy. And that's coming from a middle-aged man. It's not an edifying look.

On 1/31/2022 5:39 AM, ogden wrote:
> Turby wrote:
>> sweller wrote:
>>> Pipl wrote:
>>>>> Happening to be there and unobtrusively enjoying the view, no
>>>>> biggie.
>>>>>
>>>>> Recommending the place for the view, bit creepy.
>>>>
>>>> I think you're overanalysing the entire conversiation, TBH.
>>>
>>> If it looks like a duck etc.
>>>
>> If you actually read the post where the subject came up, I was
>> recommending the inland roads, not the traffic plagued beach areas.
>
> The actual post I replied to, word-for-word, was this:
>
> "It's where hordes of babes have to wait before crossing from their
> neighborhoods to the beach where they hang out for the day.
> For the best view, book your flight in August or early September."
>
> I know it was a quip, but trust me, the thought of middle-aged to geriatric men going somewhere just to look at women and girls maybe a quarter of their age in swimwear, while simply waiting to cross the road, is pretty much the dictionary definition of creepy. And that's coming from a middle-aged man. It's not an edifying look.

I was born here. I didn't come here. If you live here, you can't avoid
seeing it. I spent much of my life in the ocean, but my surf break is on
rocks most of the year, so it's not a mecca for beach goers. Even so,
they're only 150 metres away. And in the markets, and the cafes. I
thought it was normal until I went to the midwest and was struck by how
obese everyone is.
BTW, that quip was pried out of me by a UKRMer, for UKRMers. It worked,
obviously.

--
The erstwhile Thomas
FJR1300, R1200GS, ST1100 (in memoriam)

On 31/01/2022 13:39, ogden wrote:
> Turby wrote:
>> sweller wrote:
>>> Pipl wrote:
>>>>> Happening to be there and unobtrusively enjoying the view, no
>>>>> biggie.
>>>>>
>>>>> Recommending the place for the view, bit creepy.
>>>>
>>>> I think you're overanalysing the entire conversiation, TBH.
>>>
>>> If it looks like a duck etc.
>>>
>> If you actually read the post where the subject came up, I was
>> recommending the inland roads, not the traffic plagued beach areas.
>
> The actual post I replied to, word-for-word, was this:
>
> "It's where hordes of babes have to wait before crossing from their
> neighborhoods to the beach where they hang out for the day.
> For the best view, book your flight in August or early September."
>
> I know it was a quip, but trust me, the thought of middle-aged to geriatric men going somewhere just to look at women and girls maybe a quarter of their age in swimwear, while simply waiting to cross the road, is pretty much the dictionary definition of creepy. And that's coming from a middle-aged man. It's not an edifying look.

Indeed so. In retrospect quipping back was 'so 1970s'.
Things have changed in 50 years :-/

Chris

--
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Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550t
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On 31/01/2022 12:17, sweller wrote:
> YTC#1 wrote:
>
>>>> Are we playing snow top trumps now?
>>>
>>> It's a bit shaky-cam but it was mounted on my Armstrong and it was
>>> also bloody cold.
>>>
>>> http://sweller.dynalias.org/images/ukrm/Norway2011.jpg
>>>
>>
>> Isn't it cheating ig you have snow tyres? :-)
>
> The tyres themselves weren't snow tyres but they did have studs.
>

I vaguley remember a tale of fitting them.

--
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On 28/01/2022 16:29, Champ wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 10:40:02 +0000, Pete Fisher
> <peter@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 28/01/2022 08:39, Champ wrote:
>>> On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 12:17:19 +0000, Pete Fisher
>>> <peter@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The lad is sallying forth this weekend to Paris - on a pedal cycle FFS!
>>>
>>>> An ambitious itinerary by pedal power, given the number of days.
>
>>> How many days?
>
>> Seven. Starting from and returning to that London.
>
> 470km (from the website) in 7 days, then. That's less than 70km a
> day, which is only 40-ish miles. Easy for a fit youngster

<reviews 7 days, weighted by age>
Make that 10 days
</r>
:-)

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On 01/02/2022 10:17, YTC#1 wrote:
>
>
> On 28/01/2022 16:29, Champ wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 10:40:02 +0000, Pete Fisher
>> <peter@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 28/01/2022 08:39, Champ wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 12:17:19 +0000, Pete Fisher
>>>> <peter@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The lad is sallying forth this weekend to Paris - on a pedal cycle
>>>>> FFS!
>>>>
>>>>> An ambitious itinerary by pedal power, given the number of days.
>>>> How many days?
>>
>>> Seven. Starting from and returning to that London.
>>
>> 470km (from the website) in 7 days, then.  That's less than 70km a
>> day, which is only 40-ish miles.  Easy for a fit youngster
>
> <reviews 7 days, weighted by age>
> Make that 10 days
> </r>
> :-)
>

Perceptive.

Phone call yesterday morning. Knee 'blown up' about 20Kms out from
Dieppe. I suspect the London to Newhaven leg was tackled with too much
gusto, and by the sound of it, rather overloaded and unbalanced panniers.

Made it back to Dieppe riding very gently OK to a hotel and a decent
dinner (though sadly the Hotel Windsor of French Run fame restaurant was
not open).

Decided after consulting with other cycling and sport science mates that
he has a 'slightly torn MCL'. Leaving his bike at the Dieppe hotel today
(agreed by them) and going by train to Paris for his two nights there.

Not sure how he is getting back from Newhaven to London, but if no room
on a train and a mate can't pick him up we will go and collect him with
cycle carrier on a car or in the 'MH'. Or a one way car hire by him.

A life lesson learned - including the French for "my knee is fucked -
can I leave my bike with you".

--
Moto Morini 2C/375, Moto Morini 2C/350
Gilera 175 Sport, Husqvarna 401 Svartpilen
1937 Sunbeam Model 14 250 Sports
"Do not adjust your mind, there is a fault in the reality"

On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 10:52:42 +0000, Pete Fisher
<peter@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>Phone call yesterday morning. Knee 'blown up' about 20Kms out from
>Dieppe. I suspect the London to Newhaven leg was tackled with too much
>gusto, and by the sound of it, rather overloaded and unbalanced panniers.
>
>Made it back to Dieppe riding very gently OK to a hotel and a decent
>dinner

That's a shame.

For future ref - cycling should really put minimal stress on the
knees. If it is, you're turning to big a gear - change down, and spin
faster. The ideal cadence (revs) for cycling is 85~90. Most people
spin slower, and "grunt" their way along - especially young fit men
with strong legs. This is when knees can suffer

--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

Champ wrote:
> For future ref - cycling should really put minimal stress on the
> knees. If it is, you're turning to big a gear - change down, and spin
> faster. The ideal cadence (revs) for cycling is 85~90. Most people
> spin slower, and "grunt" their way along - especially young fit men
> with strong legs.

There are two kinds of people in this world: grinders and spinners.

On 01/02/2022 10:52, Pete Fisher wrote:
> On 01/02/2022 10:17, YTC#1 wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 28/01/2022 16:29, Champ wrote:
>>> On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 10:40:02 +0000, Pete Fisher
>>> <peter@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 28/01/2022 08:39, Champ wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 12:17:19 +0000, Pete Fisher
>>>>> <peter@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The lad is sallying forth this weekend to Paris - on a pedal cycle
>>>>>> FFS!
>>>>>
>>>>>> An ambitious itinerary by pedal power, given the number of days.
>>>>> How many days?
>>>
>>>> Seven. Starting from and returning to that London.
>>>
>>> 470km (from the website) in 7 days, then.  That's less than 70km a
>>> day, which is only 40-ish miles.  Easy for a fit youngster
>>
>> <reviews 7 days, weighted by age>
>> Make that 10 days
>> </r>
>> :-)
>>
>
> Perceptive.
>
> Phone call yesterday morning. Knee 'blown up' about 20Kms out from

Ooh, dodgy knee. Welcome to my world.

(Pervesly riding helps my knee.... unless I do 40-50 miles)

>
> Not sure how he is getting back from Newhaven to London, but if no room
> on a train and a mate can't pick him up we will go and collect him with

I think the days of packed trains again are a long way off.
More likely no train available :-)

> cycle carrier on a car or in the 'MH'. Or a one way car hire by him.
>
> A life lesson learned - including the French for "my knee is fucked -
> can I leave my bike with you".
>

Good point, I only know how to say stuff like that about the motorbike.

>
>

--
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"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
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On 01/02/2022 14:22, Champ wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 10:52:42 +0000, Pete Fisher
> <peter@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Phone call yesterday morning. Knee 'blown up' about 20Kms out from
>> Dieppe. I suspect the London to Newhaven leg was tackled with too much
>> gusto, and by the sound of it, rather overloaded and unbalanced panniers.
>>
>> Made it back to Dieppe riding very gently OK to a hotel and a decent
>> dinner
>
> That's a shame.
>
> For future ref - cycling should really put minimal stress on the
> knees. If it is, you're turning to big a gear - change down, and spin
> faster. The ideal cadence (revs) for cycling is 85~90. Most people
> spin slower, and "grunt" their way along - especially young fit men
> with strong legs. This is when knees can suffer
>
>

I want more and lower gears! :-)

--
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