On 8/12/2021 7:10 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 8/12/2021 7:54 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 00:29:43 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/12/2021 10:44 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>> On 7/12/21 9:54 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>> Only someone who knows absolutely *nothing* about cars would ever use
>>>>> the words "Magnificent" and "Alfa" in the same sentence. I don't think
>>>>> Alfa has ever made a "magnificent" car in the entire 100 odd years
>>>>> they've been in business, and certainly they have *never* made
>>>>> anything that could even *remotely* be considered reliable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Their cars are appalling heaps of unreliable shit, and only a complete
>>>>> moron would ever want to own one.
>>>> There used to be a saying that everyone should own an Alfa at least for
>>>> a short time, I assumed that that was so that they would then know why
>>>> they shouldn't keep one:-)
>>> Lol :)
>>>
>>>> Son was given an Alfa for next to nothing, it was a 147, only thing
>>>> wrong with it mechanically was the alternator which sounds simple but
>>>> apparently its a very big job just to remove and replace it so he
>>>> didn't
>>>> think it was worth fixing, someone offered him a few hundred dollars
>>>> for
>>>> it so he sold it.
>>>> I had a look at it to see if what they said about replacing the
>>>> alternator was true and I couldn't even find it, I googled it and found
>>>> it buried low at the back of the engine, by the look of it you had to
>>>> remove the exhaust and a driveshaft, no wonder a car that looked ok was
>>>> next to worthless.
>>> In the last year before I moved here...
>> Here we go. The Timely Anecdote appears! (You noting this xeno?)
>>
>>> one of my neighbours in a unit next
>>> door bought a black Alfa 147. I told him not to but he was an "askhole"
>>> and went ahead and bought it anyway. In that last year the dealership
>>> had it for *months* trying to fix it, with just about everything you
>>> could imagine going wrong with it. Electrical issues, oil leaks,
>>> transmission problems, you name it. He was lucky if he had it for 2
>>> weeks at a time before it would go back for some fault or another, and
>>> they would have it for a month or more trying to sort it.
>>>
>>> He still had it when I left, and I don't know if he ever finally got it
>>> sorted out but he *hated* the thing by the end of that first year.
>> I believe you Fraudster. Honest.
>>
>
> another fairytale from the storybook "Tall Tales from the land of Nod"
> for gullible aus.cars posters
>
>
>>
>> alvey
>>
>

Yep. Pure bullshit from start to finish. You would have to be
decapitated not to see through this bullshit of his.

On 8/12/2021 4:00 am, alvey wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Dec 2021 17:42:58 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>
>> On 4/12/2021 6:01 pm, alvey wrote:
>>> On Sat, 4 Dec 2021 15:48:10 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/12/2021 9:43 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 4 Dec 2021 08:58:55 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/12/2021 5:00 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 18:19:19 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 3/12/2021 6:15 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> At least I own a proper status symbol *and* enjoy showing off & posing. What's your
>>>>>>>>> "relevance" here champ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There I fixed it for you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope. You broke it. *And* made a right goose of yourself in the process.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Which car would you say was the carriage of choice for an egotist keith?
>>>>>>> A 5 door sedan with tinted windows? Or a 2 seater convertible?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Obviously, in order of choice for the egotist
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ferrari
>>>>>> Merc
>>>>>> BMW
>>>>>> Audi
>>>>>
>>>>> The Most Obvious thing here is your clumsy attempt to not answer the
>>>>> question.
>>>>
>>>> The question is answered,
>>>
>>> Ooooooh no it's not.
>>>
>>>> it's just that you are too willfully ignorant to see it
>>>
>>> Wrong again keith. The reality is that you're too egotistical to ever
>>> admit either that you're wrong or that you've been done.
>>>>
>>>>> alvey
>>>>> Wondering why Alfa, Porsche, Aston-Martin et al aren't on keith's "obvious"
>>>>> list.
>>>>
>>>> Because middle class poseurs like alvey couldn't afford couldn't afford
>>>> the Aston(or the Ferrari I suppose),
>>>
>>> Wrong again keith.
>>> Oh, and after you recently boasted about your massive salary I asked why
>>> then are you dwelling in the backblocks. Still waiting for an answer on
>>> that. "It's called retirement, living a full and happy life after putting
>>> in a lot of work over the years" doesn't cut it.
>>
>> It only doesn't cut it to little wankers like your good self, I just
>> don't spend my money on self aggrandisement.
>
> Some could opine that there's two reasons for that.
>
> But as I've said, being attacked for driving a mid-range, half-decent car
> in a ng named "AUS.CARS" is just too surreal to take seriously.
>
>
>
> alvey
>

aus.cars... where daring to drive a decent mid-level car and not bang on
about it when you have an attention seeking whore posting about welding
brackets on farm machinery but not to keep his own son safe because he
doesn't take responsibility for his child makes *you* the wanker?

It's simply absurd!

On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 10:14:56 +1100, Noddy wrote:

snip rubbish
>
> They make great Pizza's,

lol.
Fraudster's lack of worldliness betrays him yet again. Those of us who've
been to Italy know that their "Pizza's" (sic) aren't actually very good.

> but they make thoroughly shithouse cars and
> anyone who wanted to own one is either ignorant beyond belief or has
> incredibly deep pockets and is willing to spend some time driving a "loner".

More laughs. Not just the strident stupidity of a barmy bogan, but a
"loner"? What a buffoon you are Fraudster.

alvey
With a motoring trivia question! Which manufacturer has won the most
rallying Manufacturers Championships?

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On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 10:04:40 +1100, Yosemite Sam wrote:

> On 8/12/2021 7:17 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Tue, 7 Dec 2021 21:54:16 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/12/2021 6:42 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 4/12/2021 6:01 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>> Well keith, you've really blown your head gasket here. Anyone who
>>>>> describes
>>>>> the magnificent Alfa Giulia Quadrifoglio (not to mention the sexy little
>>>>> 4C) as a pretentious Fiat is indisputably whacko.
>>>> I used to work for an Alfa owner, he was a pretentious twat. When my
>>>> late employer was trying to cut the head count in Italy, they offered a
>>>> brand new Alfa to anybody who would leave. No takers, perhaps the
>>>> Italians aren't stupid.
>>> Lol :)
>>>
>>> Only someone who knows absolutely *nothing* about cars would ever use
>>> the words "Magnificent" and "Alfa" in the same sentence. I don't think
>>> Alfa has ever made a "magnificent" car in the entire 100 odd years
>>> they've been in business, and certainly they have *never* made anything
>>> that could even *remotely* be considered reliable.
>>>
>>> Their cars are appalling heaps of unreliable shit, and only a complete
>>> moron would ever want to own one.
>>>
>>>>> Anyhoo, while I appreciate and enjoy surrealism as much as the next
>>>>> person
>>>>> in the Dali Museum, this is the end for me in these 'exchanges' about my
>>>>> choice of *car*. Being attacked, however feebly, over my choice of a
>>>>> perfectly decent car in a group named *aus.cars* is impossible to take
>>>>> seriously so I'm not going to encourage it anymore. Don't worry though!
>>>>> There's plenty of alternative subjects that you chucklewits can make
>>>>> fools
>>>>> of yourself over!
>>>> You mean a perfectly decent penis substitute.
>>>>
>>>>> Adding Maserati to the list. Quattroporte, sigh...
>>>> I saw a TV program recently where they replaced the engine of a Maserati
>>>> with an electric motor, it actually improved the performance and there
>>>> was a reasonable chance of arriving at the destination without breaking
>>>> down.
>>> Typical of anything automotive Italian.
>>>
>>> Two things the Italians do *awfully* well: Mens suits and coffee
>>> machines. One thing they do *really* badly: Make cars.
>>>
>>> They always have.
>> Gosh! Where to start?
>> One of the monumentally stupid posts I've ever read.
>> Ok, done. So how to finish?
>> One of the monumentally stupid posts I've ever read.
>>
>> There! Wasn't as hard as I thought it was going to be.
>>
>
> yeah those ferraris are a heap of shit aren't they  :)

Could be worse. Could be a Lamborghini. They're trash on wheels.

alvey

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On 8/12/21 10:10 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 8/12/2021 7:54 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 00:29:43 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/12/2021 10:44 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>> On 7/12/21 9:54 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>> Only someone who knows absolutely *nothing* about cars would ever use
>>>>> the words "Magnificent" and "Alfa" in the same sentence. I don't think
>>>>> Alfa has ever made a "magnificent" car in the entire 100 odd years
>>>>> they've been in business, and certainly they have *never* made
>>>>> anything that could even *remotely* be considered reliable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Their cars are appalling heaps of unreliable shit, and only a complete
>>>>> moron would ever want to own one.
>>>> There used to be a saying that everyone should own an Alfa at least for
>>>> a short time, I assumed that that was so that they would then know why
>>>> they shouldn't keep one:-)
>>> Lol :)
>>>
>>>> Son was given an Alfa for next to nothing, it was a 147, only thing
>>>> wrong with it mechanically was the alternator which sounds simple but
>>>> apparently its a very big job just to remove and replace it so he
>>>> didn't
>>>> think it was worth fixing, someone offered him a few hundred dollars
>>>> for
>>>> it so he sold it.
>>>> I had a look at it to see if what they said about replacing the
>>>> alternator was true and I couldn't even find it, I googled it and found
>>>> it buried low at the back of the engine, by the look of it you had to
>>>> remove the exhaust and a driveshaft, no wonder a car that looked ok was
>>>> next to worthless.
>>> In the last year before I moved here...
>> Here we go. The Timely Anecdote appears! (You noting this xeno?)
>>
>>> one of my neighbours in a unit next
>>> door bought a black Alfa 147. I told him not to but he was an "askhole"
>>> and went ahead and bought it anyway. In that last year the dealership
>>> had it for *months* trying to fix it, with just about everything you
>>> could imagine going wrong with it. Electrical issues, oil leaks,
>>> transmission problems, you name it. He was lucky if he had it for 2
>>> weeks at a time before it would go back for some fault or another, and
>>> they would have it for a month or more trying to sort it.
>>>
>>> He still had it when I left, and I don't know if he ever finally got it
>>> sorted out but he *hated* the thing by the end of that first year.
>> I believe you Fraudster. Honest.
>>
>
> another fairytale from the storybook "Tall Tales from the land of Nod"
> for gullible aus.cars posters
>
Someone should tell Darren that all fairy stories begin with "Once upon
a time".

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On 8/12/21 10:14 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 8/12/2021 8:52 am, Daryl wrote:
>> On 8/12/21 12:29 am, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> In the last year before I moved here one of my neighbours in a unit
>>> next door bought a black Alfa 147. I told him not to but he was an
>>> "askhole" and went ahead and bought it anyway. In that last year the
>>> dealership had it for *months* trying to fix it, with just about
>>> everything you could imagine going wrong with it. Electrical issues,
>>> oil leaks, transmission problems, you name it. He was lucky if he had
>>> it for 2 weeks at a time before it would go back for some fault or
>>> another, and they would have it for a month or more trying to sort it.
>>>
>>> He still had it when I left, and I don't know if he ever finally got
>>> it sorted out but he *hated* the thing by the end of that first year.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Not surprised by that at all, from what I've seen its as much about
>> how difficult they are to repair as it is that they have problems that
>> need to be repaired.
>
> They're just a cunt of a car period, and always have been.

All you are *proving* by the ignorant statement above is that your
experience with *any form* of exotic car is absolutely minimal at best.
>
>> Apparently the one my son had drove and ran quite nicely but it just
>> that the cost of repairs was more than it was worth.
>
> The Italians are amazingly passionate & emotional people, but they lack
> anything that remotely resembles organizational skill, and they have
> absolutely *no* fucking idea how to build reliability into any machine.
> Their metallurgy skills are average at best, their electrical
> understanding makes 1960's Lucas equipment look like it was made by
> NASA, and when it comes to designing and assembling cars they look like
> the fucking things were done by mail order.
>
> Seriously, if you look at most Italian vehicles from the most
> ridiculously over priced exotics down to their basic everyday drivers
> they all look like the major component design crews never knew about
> each other's existence until it came time to put the car together and
> then it just became a massive shitfight to see what goes where. With
> lots of typcial hot headed Italian language and hand gestures no doubt.
>
> They make great Pizza's, but they make thoroughly shithouse cars and
> anyone who wanted to own one is either ignorant beyond belief or has
> incredibly deep pockets and is willing to spend some time driving a
> "loner".
>
Nah Darren, they aren't like you, a "loner". Speaking of ignornt,
there's much in automotive you are ignorant of, the sort of stuff one
learns in an apprenticeship, for instance.

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On 8/12/21 12:46 pm, alvey wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 10:14:56 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>
> snip rubbish
>>
>> They make great Pizza's,
>
> lol.
> Fraudster's lack of worldliness betrays him yet again. Those of us who've
> been to Italy know that their "Pizza's" (sic) aren't actually very good.
>
>> but they make thoroughly shithouse cars and
>> anyone who wanted to own one is either ignorant beyond belief or has
>> incredibly deep pockets and is willing to spend some time driving a "loner".
>
> More laughs. Not just the strident stupidity of a barmy bogan, but a
> "loner"? What a buffoon you are Fraudster.
>
Darren was looking into his mirror when the "loner" concept hit him
between the eyes.
>
> alvey
> With a motoring trivia question! Which manufacturer has won the most
> rallying Manufacturers Championships?
>

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On 8/12/2021 7:14 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 8/12/2021 8:52 am, Daryl wrote:
>> On 8/12/21 12:29 am, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> In the last year before I moved here one of my neighbours in a unit
>>> next door bought a black Alfa 147. I told him not to but he was an
>>> "askhole" and went ahead and bought it anyway. In that last year the
>>> dealership had it for *months* trying to fix it, with just about
>>> everything you could imagine going wrong with it. Electrical issues,
>>> oil leaks, transmission problems, you name it. He was lucky if he had
>>> it for 2 weeks at a time before it would go back for some fault or
>>> another, and they would have it for a month or more trying to sort it.
>>>
>>> He still had it when I left, and I don't know if he ever finally got
>>> it sorted out but he *hated* the thing by the end of that first year.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Not surprised by that at all, from what I've seen its as much about
>> how difficult they are to repair as it is that they have problems that
>> need to be repaired.
>
> They're just a cunt of a car period, and always have been.
>
>> Apparently the one my son had drove and ran quite nicely but it just
>> that the cost of repairs was more than it was worth.
>

Like any old Merc...

<snip bullshit>

> They make great Pizza's,

LOL, no they don't oh unworldly one. Their pizzas are fucking terrible!

You know about as much of Italian pizza as you do Italian cars.

NOTHING!

On 8/12/2021 9:46 am, alvey wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 10:14:56 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>
> snip rubbish
>>
>> They make great Pizza's,
>
> lol.
> Fraudster's lack of worldliness betrays him yet again. Those of us who've
> been to Italy know that their "Pizza's" (sic) aren't actually very good.
>

You can say that again. Found that out in Venice.

>> but they make thoroughly shithouse cars and
>> anyone who wanted to own one is either ignorant beyond belief or has
>> incredibly deep pockets and is willing to spend some time driving a "loner".
>
> More laughs. Not just the strident stupidity of a barmy bogan, but a
> "loner"? What a buffoon you are Fraudster.
>
>
> alvey
> With a motoring trivia question! Which manufacturer has won the most
> rallying Manufacturers Championships?
>

:-)

On 8/12/2021 12:51 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 8/12/21 10:10 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 8/12/2021 7:54 am, alvey wrote:
>>> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 00:29:43 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/12/2021 10:44 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>>> On 7/12/21 9:54 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>> Only someone who knows absolutely *nothing* about cars would ever
>>>>>> use
>>>>>> the words "Magnificent" and "Alfa" in the same sentence. I don't
>>>>>> think
>>>>>> Alfa has ever made a "magnificent" car in the entire 100 odd years
>>>>>> they've been in business, and certainly they have *never* made
>>>>>> anything that could even *remotely* be considered reliable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Their cars are appalling heaps of unreliable shit, and only a
>>>>>> complete
>>>>>> moron would ever want to own one.
>>>>> There used to be a saying that everyone should own an Alfa at
>>>>> least for
>>>>> a short time, I assumed that that was so that they would then know
>>>>> why
>>>>> they shouldn't keep one:-)
>>>> Lol :)
>>>>
>>>>> Son was given an Alfa for next to nothing, it was a 147, only thing
>>>>> wrong with it mechanically was the alternator which sounds simple but
>>>>> apparently its a very big job just to remove and replace it so he
>>>>> didn't
>>>>> think it was worth fixing, someone offered him a few hundred
>>>>> dollars for
>>>>> it so he sold it.
>>>>> I had a look at it to see if what they said about replacing the
>>>>> alternator was true and I couldn't even find it, I googled it and
>>>>> found
>>>>> it buried low at the back of the engine, by the look of it you had to
>>>>> remove the exhaust and a driveshaft, no wonder a car that looked
>>>>> ok was
>>>>> next to worthless.
>>>> In the last year before I moved here...
>>> Here we go. The Timely Anecdote appears! (You noting this xeno?)
>>>
>>>> one of my neighbours in a unit next
>>>> door bought a black Alfa 147. I told him not to but he was an
>>>> "askhole"
>>>> and went ahead and bought it anyway. In that last year the dealership
>>>> had it for *months* trying to fix it, with just about everything you
>>>> could imagine going wrong with it. Electrical issues, oil leaks,
>>>> transmission problems, you name it. He was lucky if he had it for 2
>>>> weeks at a time before it would go back for some fault or another, and
>>>> they would have it for a month or more trying to sort it.
>>>>
>>>> He still had it when I left, and I don't know if he ever finally
>>>> got it
>>>> sorted out but he *hated* the thing by the end of that first year.
>>> I believe you Fraudster. Honest.
>>>
>>
>> another fairytale from the storybook "Tall Tales from the land of
>> Nod" for gullible aus.cars posters
>>
> Someone should tell Darren that all fairy stories begin with "Once
> upon a time".
>
>

I think maybe the aus.cars version of that is "one of my neighbors.." or
"one of my friends..."  :)

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On 8/12/21 10:14 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 8/12/2021 8:52 am, Daryl wrote:
>> On 8/12/21 12:29 am, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> In the last year before I moved here one of my neighbours in a unit
>>> next door bought a black Alfa 147. I told him not to but he was an
>>> "askhole" and went ahead and bought it anyway. In that last year the
>>> dealership had it for *months* trying to fix it, with just about
>>> everything you could imagine going wrong with it. Electrical issues,
>>> oil leaks, transmission problems, you name it. He was lucky if he had
>>> it for 2 weeks at a time before it would go back for some fault or
>>> another, and they would have it for a month or more trying to sort it.
>>>
>>> He still had it when I left, and I don't know if he ever finally got
>>> it sorted out but he *hated* the thing by the end of that first year.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Not surprised by that at all, from what I've seen its as much about
>> how difficult they are to repair as it is that they have problems that
>> need to be repaired.
>
> They're just a cunt of a car period, and always have been.
>
>> Apparently the one my son had drove and ran quite nicely but it just
>> that the cost of repairs was more than it was worth.
>
> The Italians are amazingly passionate & emotional people, but they lack
> anything that remotely resembles organizational skill, and they have
> absolutely *no* fucking idea how to build reliability into any machine.
> Their metallurgy skills are average at best, their electrical
> understanding makes 1960's Lucas equipment look like it was made by
> NASA, and when it comes to designing and assembling cars they look like
> the fucking things were done by mail order.
>
> Seriously, if you look at most Italian vehicles from the most
> ridiculously over priced exotics down to their basic everyday drivers
> they all look like the major component design crews never knew about
> each other's existence until it came time to put the car together and
> then it just became a massive shitfight to see what goes where. With
> lots of typcial hot headed Italian language and hand gestures no doubt.
>
> They make great Pizza's, but they make thoroughly shithouse cars and
> anyone who wanted to own one is either ignorant beyond belief or has
> incredibly deep pockets and is willing to spend some time driving a
> "loner".
>
>
I think where people get caught out is that Italian cars can be great
drives when they are running well, too bad that feeling doesn't last.

--
Daryl

On 8/12/21 4:59 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 8/12/2021 12:51 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 8/12/21 10:10 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 8/12/2021 7:54 am, alvey wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 00:29:43 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/12/2021 10:44 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/12/21 9:54 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>> Only someone who knows absolutely *nothing* about cars would ever
>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>> the words "Magnificent" and "Alfa" in the same sentence. I don't
>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>> Alfa has ever made a "magnificent" car in the entire 100 odd years
>>>>>>> they've been in business, and certainly they have *never* made
>>>>>>> anything that could even *remotely* be considered reliable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Their cars are appalling heaps of unreliable shit, and only a
>>>>>>> complete
>>>>>>> moron would ever want to own one.
>>>>>> There used to be a saying that everyone should own an Alfa at
>>>>>> least for
>>>>>> a short time, I assumed that that was so that they would then know
>>>>>> why
>>>>>> they shouldn't keep one:-)
>>>>> Lol :)
>>>>>
>>>>>> Son was given an Alfa for next to nothing, it was a 147, only thing
>>>>>> wrong with it mechanically was the alternator which sounds simple but
>>>>>> apparently its a very big job just to remove and replace it so he
>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>> think it was worth fixing, someone offered him a few hundred
>>>>>> dollars for
>>>>>> it so he sold it.
>>>>>> I had a look at it to see if what they said about replacing the
>>>>>> alternator was true and I couldn't even find it, I googled it and
>>>>>> found
>>>>>> it buried low at the back of the engine, by the look of it you had to
>>>>>> remove the exhaust and a driveshaft, no wonder a car that looked
>>>>>> ok was
>>>>>> next to worthless.
>>>>> In the last year before I moved here...
>>>> Here we go. The Timely Anecdote appears! (You noting this xeno?)
>>>>
>>>>> one of my neighbours in a unit next
>>>>> door bought a black Alfa 147. I told him not to but he was an
>>>>> "askhole"
>>>>> and went ahead and bought it anyway. In that last year the dealership
>>>>> had it for *months* trying to fix it, with just about everything you
>>>>> could imagine going wrong with it. Electrical issues, oil leaks,
>>>>> transmission problems, you name it. He was lucky if he had it for 2
>>>>> weeks at a time before it would go back for some fault or another, and
>>>>> they would have it for a month or more trying to sort it.
>>>>>
>>>>> He still had it when I left, and I don't know if he ever finally
>>>>> got it
>>>>> sorted out but he *hated* the thing by the end of that first year.
>>>> I believe you Fraudster. Honest.
>>>>
>>>
>>> another fairytale from the storybook "Tall Tales from the land of
>>> Nod" for gullible aus.cars posters
>>>
>> Someone should tell Darren that all fairy stories begin with "Once
>> upon a time".
>>
>>
>
> I think maybe the aus.cars version of that is "one of my neighbors.." or
> "one of my friends..."  :)
>
Well, in Daryl's case, it is; "one of my relatives". Some here complain
that I have a lot of friends (hey, I'm blessed!) but say nothing about
Daryl rolling out *convenient* relatives all the time. Talk about bias! ;-)

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On 8/12/2021 5:00 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 8/12/21 10:14 am, Noddy wrote:

>> They make great Pizza's, but they make thoroughly shithouse cars and
>> anyone who wanted to own one is either ignorant beyond belief or has
>> incredibly deep pockets and is willing to spend some time driving a
>> "loner".
>>
>>
> I think where people get caught out is that Italian cars can be great
> drives when they are running well, too bad that feeling doesn't last.

Yep. Reliability just isn't their thing.

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--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 8/12/21 9:33 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 8/12/2021 5:00 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 8/12/21 10:14 am, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> They make great Pizza's, but they make thoroughly shithouse cars and
>>> anyone who wanted to own one is either ignorant beyond belief or has
>>> incredibly deep pockets and is willing to spend some time driving a
>>> "loner".
>>>
>>>
>> I think where people get caught out is that Italian cars can be great
>> drives when they are running well, too bad that feeling doesn't last.
>
> Yep. Reliability just isn't their thing.
>
Yes, for Nissans, reliability isn't even a thing, especially if fitted
with a Jatco trans.

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On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 21:33:35 +1100, Noddy wrote:

> On 8/12/2021 5:00 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 8/12/21 10:14 am, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> They make great Pizza's, but they make thoroughly shithouse cars and
>>> anyone who wanted to own one is either ignorant beyond belief or has
>>> incredibly deep pockets and is willing to spend some time driving a
>>> "loner".
>>>
>>>
>> I think where people get caught out is that Italian cars can be great
>> drives when they are running well, too bad that feeling doesn't last.
>
> Yep. Reliability just isn't their thing.

Xmas comes early!

Hey Fraudster! Reliability sure ain't your thing.
You are a proven liar Der Der. Ergo any unsupported statement from you is
not to be believed.

Carry on

alvey

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On 8/12/2021 6:33 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 8/12/2021 5:00 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 8/12/21 10:14 am, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> They make great Pizza's, but they make thoroughly shithouse cars and
>>> anyone who wanted to own one is either ignorant beyond belief or has
>>> incredibly deep pockets and is willing to spend some time driving a
>>> "loner".
>>>
>>>
>> I think where people get caught out is that Italian cars can be great
>> drives when they are running well, too bad that feeling doesn't last.
>
> Yep. Reliability just isn't their thing.
>
>
>

Far from the worst brands.

According to the link below it's on par with that of BMW with one
difference, the repairs on the Alfa are cheaper. Mercedes are not much
better.

Fiat fared much better than BMW or Mercedes, in fact on par with Hyundai!

https://www.carwow.co.uk/blog/most-and-least-reliable-car-brands-revealed

Now it's true that this data comes from an aftermarket warranty provider
and may not carry as much weight as the baseless opinions of some
uneducated and unqualified narcissistic fringe dwelling bogan with a
propensity to lie and hate rage with jealousy but I'll leave it to the
discerning reader to decide who to believe.

On 8/12/2021 6:39 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 8/12/21 9:33 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 8/12/2021 5:00 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 8/12/21 10:14 am, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>>> They make great Pizza's, but they make thoroughly shithouse cars and
>>>> anyone who wanted to own one is either ignorant beyond belief or has
>>>> incredibly deep pockets and is willing to spend some time driving a
>>>> "loner".
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I think where people get caught out is that Italian cars can be great
>>> drives when they are running well, too bad that feeling doesn't last.
>>
>> Yep. Reliability just isn't their thing.
>>
> Yes, for Nissans, reliability isn't even a thing, especially if fitted
> with a Jatco trans.
>
>

Actually, it's not a thing if they are fitted with license plates.

On 3/12/2021 7:15 pm, alvey wrote:
>
>>
>> Poor old Alvey. Searching for relevance....
>>>
>
> Poor old Lindsay

No prizes for second, poor old Alvey...

> Having to resort to 'The Fraudsters Idiots Guide To Being
> A Loser On Usenet'.

You first, shitlips... Learning from the Tomas Clasener Tome of Lies now?

> At least I own a proper car

Really? You've bought one? When? Oh, you mean that simpering merc,
when bits aren't falling off it? :-D The one that cant get over a speed
hump? And when under power, sounding like a fucking wet fart..? That
"proper car"? :-) Oh. Right. What a piece of shit. Bwahahahahahaha.
Stop your search of relevance. You failed right there. APU.:-D

> *and* enjoy cars & driving.

You and me both, flog. And doing way more than carrying the shopping
home, too.:-) I can get over a speed hump, I recently transported a
350kg mower in the tray, can do the speed limit as well as most, and get
close to 850 out of a tank of fuel. What can you do in that regard? A
dozen bottles of Peroni mineral water? Some empty latte cups? A dozen
cucumber sandwiches, and a vannamei prawn platter from Coles? Gunna let
the reds breath this year? :-D :-D :-D

> What's your "relevance" here champ?

Nearly exactly the same as yours, *Chump*. Except i don't upset the
neighbours whilst trying to get over a speed hump. bwahahahahahaha

On 2/12/2021 7:23 pm, lindsay wrote:
> On 29/11/2021 8:54 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>
>>> I'll give you another chance to show the planes "without wings" (AS
>>> YOU SAID) landing safely...   here's what *you* snipped, you sad old
>>> spineless flog:
>>>
>>> "Show me where I'm wrong. Show me the P-47 missing a WHOLE wing. Show
>>> me the F-15 crashing because it was missing a major part of it's
>>> wing. Show me the original video you posted is real. Go, on Felix, in
>>> front of everyone, show me where I'm wrong, and your right.
>>>
>>> Bet you'll attempt to take the intellectual high ground, but with
>>> *nothing* to back up your shit.  You'll run away with your fingers in
>>> your ears going nah nah nah, hurling abuse over your shoulder as you
>>> usually do.
>>>
>>> Grow some nuts, and show me where I'm wrong, and your right.
>>>
>>> Show me."
>>>
>>> Waiting....
>
>
> Still nothing....Sorry Fetid,  I was going to let this slide, because
> you obviously dont handle facts, truth and usenet too well, but fuckk
> it, it's Felix.!!! The Banner Bearer for the FLC!!! :-D

So, 9 days later, are you going to respond, or are you going to prove to
all what the FLC are... a bunch of loud-mouthed spineless cunts who run
when shown to be wrong? (you know.. Tomas Clasener et al...)

>>>> you're sick in the head and need help

What a non - suprise. Rather than "grow some nuts", you've publicly
shown yourself to be a spineless cunt. Again.
>>>
>>> And, as predicted, you wiped what would show you to be the simple sad
>>> old suck, lickspittle and dumb cunt you are, and *did exactly as I
>>> said you would: you ran away rather than answer*, to hide behind
>>> others skirts... as usual.
>>>
>>> What a spineless loser you are, Fetid.  "Grow some nuts" You?
>>> Hahahahahahaha  So predictable...
>>>
>>> Dont forget to remind everyone how intelligent you are again, after
>>> being shown to be an absolute dullard, Spazpecker. That is funny.:-D

>> I have already explained it to you, but u are such a brainless idiot
>> it's not getting thru.
>
> No, you haven't.

And still haven't. You've hoisted your skirt, squealed that you've
answered, and ran away. As the FLC do.

But I can spell better than you, Fetid. You've snipped
> the lot, sauntered off claiming your intelligence is greater than Deep
> Thought, and done the pigeon strut.
>
> Here, let's try again, for the intellectually handicapped amongst us
> (thats you, Felix, you fucking senile flog..)
>
>> let me spell it out for you then.. you are a crass disgusting asshole
>> who I have no wish or desire to know or talk to, which is why i ignore
>> you,
>
> Yet here you are, Spazpecker the Dull! .... Who created the post titled
> "for linsey", you silly old flog?  Just another Fetid fail. "which is
> why i ignore you" ... You're not really showing yourself in a good
> light, Fetid... :-D
>
>> but since it seems I must reply... there is no 'right' or 'wrong' u
>> fuckin moron.
>
> So there's no left or right either? No port or starboard? No wing or
> part thereof? No lift, or crash?
>
> You don't get to make the rules, Fetid. YOU claimed planes can fly with
> one wing. The examples you provided show planes with damaged wings still
> flying. A big difference. You know what wings are for, right, Einstein?
>
>> I posted a video of a plane flying with no wing.
>
> *FFS*, *tell the truth!* if you can.!!!. You posted a video of a radio
> controlled *model plane*. A toy, if you will. A fake video. A video,
> which has a video of it's making. You fell for it. Sucker.

Silence. Niot going to admit your mistake? No.. it's too hard isn't it...

>> I don't recall what I said about it, if anything,

I do.

>> but it was shown by
>> u and or others to be fake, and I accepted that.

No. I don't think you did... or this thread would exist.

>
> Right *AFTER* you were told it was a fake. But it seems you didn't
> accept it, Fetid, otherwise you wouldn't have made your post, titled
> "for linsey", a few days ago. You posted a link to a utube vid of a P-47
> with wing *damage*, (less than half gone - 1250mm), not fucking
> "MISSING", you fucking stupid dickhead. Why, if not to attempt to
> alleviate your hilarious whoopsie of a toy plane landing with a missing
> wing... Then you admitted to the same thing with the F-15 video, except
> the F-15's wing WASNT completely gone, has more thrust than weight, more
> thrust than a newer F/A-18, and has large stabilizators to supply lift..
> Whoops! :-D
>
>> so I don't know what the fuck you are on about.
>
> Felix, you don't know what the fuck YOU'RE on about. :-D It's a common
> trait with the FLC.... Perhaps if you read, rather than snip....
>
>> I have never tried to claim it was real, u dumb ass cunt!

Sure? :-D Google tells all, Fetid!!! :-D

> Ohh, you "crass disgusting asshole"...! Bwahahahahahahahaa
>
> Really? You sure about that? "I don't recall what I said about it, if
> anything.." You don't recall, but you never tried to claim it was real?
> :-D  Another face-plant. :-D
>
>> so now that you've dragged me into your
>> sewer u must be happy,
>
> I dragged you nowhere, Fetid. You created this thread,not me. You want
> to poke, (linsey)? I'm happy to poke back. It's already been established
> that you arent the sharpest knife in the drawer...
>
> > and you've got a reply in language that makes
>> sense to you, so now fuck off! EOD.
>
> EOD for you, shitlips. You don't get to make the rules, Spazpecker. As
> you like to bray, you make the claim, you get to back it up, right? You
> started this thread, at least allow me the finish 1t :-)
>
> So here you go :->>>>> Show me a *real* plane with it's *complete* wing
> missing/removed, and capable of flight until it touches down on a
> runway. Not a tot/RC model. Not a P-47 with some wing damage. Not an
> F-15 D Eagle with massive wing damage  but more thrust and
> stabilazators... Anything!!!
>
> And no, the toy video thats been modified, that you thought was real,
> doesn't count. A real plane, Fetid. Not a toy. Not Lego. Away you go...
>
> OTY.

Silence. As Fetid Felix squeaks "not me and runs away. As usual.

I'm probably in some sort of his convenient killfile again. Fetid just
cant make up his mind which one, or how long. Again.

"You put linsey in,
you pull linsey out,
you make a fool of yourself in usenet
and you hope your mates you pull you out...

Get help, Fetid.

>
>

On 11/12/2021 7:15 pm, lindsay wrote:
> On 3/12/2021 7:15 pm, alvey wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Poor old Alvey. Searching for relevance....
>>>>
>>
>> Poor old Lindsay
>
> No prizes for second, poor old Alvey...
>
>> Having to resort to 'The Fraudsters Idiots Guide To Being
>> A Loser On Usenet'.
>
> You first, shitlips... Learning from the Tomas Clasener Tome of Lies now?
>
>> At least I own a proper car
>
> Really? You've bought one?  When?  Oh, you mean that simpering merc,
> when bits aren't falling off it? :-D The one that cant get over a speed
> hump?  And when under power, sounding like a fucking wet fart..? That
> "proper car"? :-) Oh. Right. What a piece of shit.  Bwahahahahahaha.
> Stop your search of relevance. You failed right there. APU.:-D
>
>> *and* enjoy cars & driving.
>
> You and me both, flog. And doing way more than carrying the shopping
> home, too.:-)   I can get over a speed hump, I recently transported a
> 350kg mower in the tray, can do the speed limit as well as most, and get
> close to 850 out of a tank of fuel.  What can you do in that regard? A
> dozen bottles of Peroni mineral water? Some empty latte cups?  A dozen
> cucumber sandwiches, and a vannamei prawn platter from Coles? Gunna let
> the reds breath this year? :-D :-D :-D
>
>> What's your "relevance" here champ?
>
> Nearly exactly the same as yours, *Chump*. Except i don't upset the
> neighbours whilst trying to get over a speed hump. bwahahahahahaha

ROTFL :)

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On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 19:41:49 +1100, lindsay wrote:

> On 2/12/2021 7:23 pm, lindsay wrote:
>> On 29/11/2021 8:54 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>
>>>> I'll give you another chance to show the planes "without wings" (AS
>>>> YOU SAID) landing safely...   here's what *you* snipped, you sad old
>>>> spineless flog:
>>>>
>>>> "Show me where I'm wrong. Show me the P-47 missing a WHOLE wing. Show
>>>> me the F-15 crashing because it was missing a major part of it's
>>>> wing. Show me the original video you posted is real. Go, on Felix, in
>>>> front of everyone, show me where I'm wrong, and your right.
>>>>
>>>> Bet you'll attempt to take the intellectual high ground, but with
>>>> *nothing* to back up your shit.  You'll run away with your fingers in
>>>> your ears going nah nah nah, hurling abuse over your shoulder as you
>>>> usually do.
>>>>
>>>> Grow some nuts, and show me where I'm wrong, and your right.
>>>>
>>>> Show me."
>>>>
>>>> Waiting....
>>
>> Still nothing....Sorry Fetid,  I was going to let this slide, because
>> you obviously dont handle facts, truth and usenet too well, but fuckk
>> it, it's Felix.!!! The Banner Bearer for the FLC!!! :-D
>
> So, 9 days later, are you going to respond, or are you going to prove to
> all what the FLC are... a bunch of loud-mouthed spineless cunts who run
> when shown to be wrong? (you know.. Tomas Clasener et al...)

lol!

You're whinging about waiting "9 days"? Awwwww. Nine whole days? We've been
waiting *years* for your little mate to respond to the compelling, and in
some cases, *irrefutable* proof that he's a fraud and a liar. And these are
on *significant* matters too, not the inane and pissy trivia which are your
forte. And you suggesting that *anyone* other than your craven mates are
"...spineless cunts who run when shown to be wrong", is the yellow
highlighter of insanity in your raving.

alvey

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On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 19:15:07 +1100, lindsay wrote:

> On 3/12/2021 7:15 pm, alvey wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Poor old Alvey. Searching for relevance....
>>>>
>>
>> Poor old Lindsay
>
> No prizes for second, poor old Alvey...
>
>> Having to resort to 'The Fraudsters Idiots Guide To Being
>> A Loser On Usenet'.
>
> You first, shitlips... Learning from the Tomas Clasener Tome of Lies now?
>
>> At least I own a proper car
>
> Really? You've bought one? When? Oh, you mean that simpering merc,
> when bits aren't falling off it? :-D The one that cant get over a speed
> hump? And when under power, sounding like a fucking wet fart..? That
> "proper car"? :-) Oh. Right. What a piece of shit. Bwahahahahahaha.
> Stop your search of relevance. You failed right there. APU.:-D
>
>> *and* enjoy cars & driving.
>
> You and me both, flog. And doing way more than carrying the shopping
> home, too.:-) I can get over a speed hump, I recently transported a
> 350kg mower in the tray, can do the speed limit as well as most, and get
> close to 850 out of a tank of fuel. What can you do in that regard? A
> dozen bottles of Peroni mineral water? Some empty latte cups? A dozen
> cucumber sandwiches, and a vannamei prawn platter from Coles? Gunna let
> the reds breath this year? :-D :-D :-D
>
>> What's your "relevance" here champ?
>
> Nearly exactly the same as yours, *Chump*. Except i don't upset the
> neighbours whilst trying to get over a speed hump. bwahahahahahaha

Well that was worth waiting nine days for. Because you've massively
supported my opinion that those who choose Hulkers as their daily drive
have serious issues with masculinity and insecurity and are usually
inarticulate mouth-breathers. So thanks for that.

alvey
Wondering how boasting about carrying a heavy mower in your Tonka toy is
supposed to impress a performance *car* enthusiast.

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On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 21:04:53 +1100, Noddy wrote:

> On 11/12/2021 7:15 pm, lindsay wrote:
>> On 3/12/2021 7:15 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Poor old Alvey. Searching for relevance....
>>>>>
>>>
>>> Poor old Lindsay
>>
>> No prizes for second, poor old Alvey...
>>
>>> Having to resort to 'The Fraudsters Idiots Guide To Being
>>> A Loser On Usenet'.
>>
>> You first, shitlips... Learning from the Tomas Clasener Tome of Lies now?
>>
>>> At least I own a proper car
>>
>> Really? You've bought one?  When?  Oh, you mean that simpering merc,
>> when bits aren't falling off it? :-D The one that cant get over a speed
>> hump?  And when under power, sounding like a fucking wet fart..? That
>> "proper car"? :-) Oh. Right. What a piece of shit.  Bwahahahahahaha.
>> Stop your search of relevance. You failed right there. APU.:-D
>>
>>> *and* enjoy cars & driving.
>>
>> You and me both, flog. And doing way more than carrying the shopping
>> home, too.:-)   I can get over a speed hump, I recently transported a
>> 350kg mower in the tray, can do the speed limit as well as most, and get
>> close to 850 out of a tank of fuel.  What can you do in that regard? A
>> dozen bottles of Peroni mineral water? Some empty latte cups?  A dozen
>> cucumber sandwiches, and a vannamei prawn platter from Coles? Gunna let
>> the reds breath this year? :-D :-D :-D
>>
>>> What's your "relevance" here champ?
>>
>> Nearly exactly the same as yours, *Chump*. Except i don't upset the
>> neighbours whilst trying to get over a speed hump. bwahahahahahaha
>
> ROTFL :)

That reminds me. I've run out of treats for Max & Ruby. They're a couple of
lovely (in personality) dogs in one of my koffee klatches.

Btw Loonsay, I trust that you'll be referring to Deryl's much mentioned
Merc as "simpering" in future. You really should you know as it's an
adjective which works well for his 'personality'.

alvey

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On 12/12/2021 3:31 am, alvey wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 19:41:49 +1100, lindsay wrote:
>
>> On 2/12/2021 7:23 pm, lindsay wrote:
>>> On 29/11/2021 8:54 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I'll give you another chance to show the planes "without wings" (AS
>>>>> YOU SAID) landing safely...   here's what *you* snipped, you sad old
>>>>> spineless flog:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Show me where I'm wrong. Show me the P-47 missing a WHOLE wing. Show
>>>>> me the F-15 crashing because it was missing a major part of it's
>>>>> wing. Show me the original video you posted is real. Go, on Felix, in
>>>>> front of everyone, show me where I'm wrong, and your right.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bet you'll attempt to take the intellectual high ground, but with
>>>>> *nothing* to back up your shit.  You'll run away with your fingers in
>>>>> your ears going nah nah nah, hurling abuse over your shoulder as you
>>>>> usually do.
>>>>>
>>>>> Grow some nuts, and show me where I'm wrong, and your right.
>>>>>
>>>>> Show me."
>>>>>
>>>>> Waiting....
>>>
>>> Still nothing....Sorry Fetid,  I was going to let this slide, because
>>> you obviously dont handle facts, truth and usenet too well, but fuckk
>>> it, it's Felix.!!! The Banner Bearer for the FLC!!! :-D
>>
>> So, 9 days later, are you going to respond, or are you going to prove to
>> all what the FLC are... a bunch of loud-mouthed spineless cunts who run
>> when shown to be wrong? (you know.. Tomas Clasener et al...)
>
> lol!
>
> You're whinging about waiting "9 days"? Awwwww. Nine whole days? We've been
> waiting *years* for your little mate to respond to the compelling, and in
> some cases, *irrefutable* proof that he's a fraud and a liar. And these are
> on *significant* matters too, not the inane and pissy trivia which are your
> forte. And you suggesting that *anyone* other than your craven mates are
> "...spineless cunts who run when shown to be wrong", is the yellow
> highlighter of insanity in your raving.
>

Never a truer word spoken :-)

On 12/12/21 6:31 am, alvey wrote:

>
> lol!
>
> You're whinging about waiting "9 days"? Awwwww. Nine whole days? We've been
> waiting *years* for your little mate to respond to the compelling, and in
> some cases, *irrefutable* proof that he's a fraud and a liar. And these are
> on *significant* matters too, not the inane and pissy trivia which are your
> forte. And you suggesting that *anyone* other than your craven mates are
> "...spineless cunts who run when shown to be wrong", is the yellow
> highlighter of insanity in your raving.
>
>
>
> alvey
>
>
Lots of insanity in those ravings. 20+ years of ravings and rantings
about the *career highlights* of a serial bullshit artist. Still
wriggling on the hook!

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