On Thu, 9 Nov 2023 16:26:42 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>
wrote:

>On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 1:46:39 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 9 Nov 2023 14:50:41 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 12:45:32 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 9 Nov 2023 14:31:38 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 12:09:47 PM UTC-10, songbird wrote:
>> >> >> a pretty simple meal (and even better that i did not
>> >> >> have to make it). :)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> salmon was from canned red sockeye, used some of the juice
>> >> >> along with chopped onions and some crushed cereal, no other
>> >> >> binder, baked until browned.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> veggies had butter, nothing else, microwaved, a little
>> >> >> overcooked but i et them anyways.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> songbird
>> >> >
>> >> >I've never made salmon patties. Beats me why that is. The last time I opened a can of salmon, was probably in high school. I'll make it the next time I see a can of the fish.
>> >> >
>> >> And mackerel patties!
>
>> >
>> >That sounds awful. I have made ahi cakes though. They're delicious.
>> >
>> >https://photos.app.goo.gl/KmH5FqtM58ge1uXK8
>> Yabbut are those patties?
>>
>> >https://photos.app.goo.gl/2LhiSJiMUeRou8hp7
>>
>> Yes, that's a patty.
>>
>> Don't underestimate the humble mackerel patty, though! More flavour
>> than salmon patties.
>
>I've never noticed canned mackerel in stores before. Mackerel patties are probably okay but I've never heard of such a dish. In the US, most people buy canned tuna or salmon. I'll look to see if there's any canned mackerel in the store. I won't buy any but knowing that it exists is the first step.

There's the nice John West or similar brand and there are cheaper,
rougher, taller cans, with bones still in.

On Thu, 9 Nov 2023 16:33:28 -0800 (PST), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
<itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 5:48:02 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 9 Nov 2023 14:52:41 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 4:09:47 PM UTC-6, songbird wrote:
>> >>
>> >> a pretty simple meal (and even better that i did not
>> >> have to make it). :)
>> >>
>> >> salmon was from canned red sockeye, used some of the juice
>> >> along with chopped onions and some crushed cereal, no other
>> >> binder, baked until browned.
>> >>
>> >> songbird
>> >>
>> >I love good salmon patties and that's something I haven't cooked in several
>> >months. There's a few cans in my larder so that's a meal to consider in a
>> >few days. Thanks for the reminder!
>> >
>> >I put a bit of cornmeal in mine and an egg as the binders.
>> >
>> Cornmeal seems to be a recurring American thing. I'd never have
>> thought of adding that.
>>
>It works great as a binder. Songbird used cereal, crushed I'm sure; some people use
>crushed crackers. Cornmeal might be a regional thing.

I'd use bread crumbs, but yeah why not.

On Thu, 9 Nov 2023 16:41:53 -0800 (PST), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
<itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 6:26:47 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 1:46:39 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> >
>> > Don't underestimate the humble mackerel patty, though! More flavour
>> > than salmon patties.
>> >
>> I've never noticed canned mackerel in stores before. Mackerel patties are probably okay
>> but I've never heard of such a dish.
>>
>When I was a kid my mother would make mackerel patties. I hated them, but ate
>them just the same. Too strong fishy tasting.

That's what I like about them. Canned tuna's boring. Canned salmon's
ok, canned mackerel's nice, IMO. As far as canned goes, of course.

On Thu, 9 Nov 2023 16:46:44 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>
wrote:

>On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 2:41:56 PM UTC-10, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 6:26:47 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
>> >
>> > On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 1:46:39 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Don't underestimate the humble mackerel patty, though! More flavour
>> > > than salmon patties.
>> > >
>> > I've never noticed canned mackerel in stores before. Mackerel patties are probably okay
>> > but I've never heard of such a dish.
>> >
>> When I was a kid my mother would make mackerel patties. I hated them, but ate
>> them just the same. Too strong fishy tasting.
>
>I love broiled mackerel but smelling mackerel in the morning when you wake up ain't so pleasant.
>
I don't mind. If I like it in the evening, I like it in the morning,
with the exception of alcohol.

On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 6:54:21 PM UTC-6, Hank Rogers wrote:
>
> itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> >>
> > Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd think the fried version would be just a bit quicker
> > than baking.
> >
> I wonder if an air fryer might be worth trying.
>
Parchment paper would have to be used as the patties would fall through the
grates.

On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 7:49:05 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>
> On Thu, 9 Nov 2023 16:41:53 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
> >When I was a kid my mother would make mackerel patties. I hated them, but ate
> >them just the same. Too strong fishy tasting.
> >
> That's what I like about them. Canned tuna's boring. Canned salmon's
> ok, canned mackerel's nice, IMO. As far as canned goes, of course.
>
Since we're talking about canned fish, I had a can of King Oscar sardines
and crackers late last night. Mmmmm, mmmmm. I made the mistake
many weeks ago of buying a can of them in the 'Mediterranean' style.
That turned out to be a bit of tomato and some green olives. Definitely
won't be buying those again.

On 11/9/2023 7:39 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/9/2023 7:33 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 5:48:02 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, 9 Nov 2023 14:52:41 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 4:09:47 PM UTC-6, songbird wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> a pretty simple meal (and even better that i did not
>>>>> have to make it). :)
>>>>>
>>>>> salmon was from canned red sockeye, used some of the juice
>>>>> along with chopped onions and some crushed cereal, no other
>>>>> binder, baked until browned.
>>>>>
>>>>> songbird
>>>>>
>>>> I love good salmon patties and that's something I haven't cooked in
>>>> several
>>>> months. There's a few cans in my larder so that's a meal to consider
>>>> in a
>>>> few days. Thanks for the reminder!
>>>>
>>>> I put a bit of cornmeal in mine and an egg as the binders.
>>>>
>>> Cornmeal seems to be a recurring American thing. I'd never have
>>> thought of adding that.
>>>
>> It works great as a binder.  Songbird used cereal, crushed I'm sure;
>> some people use
>> crushed crackers.  Cornmeal might be a regional thing.
>
> I still have no clue why Bruce seems to think corn (in any form) is a
> bad thing.
>
> Jill

Oh, give him a break. He's not met Mr. Bumpy.

On Thu, 9 Nov 2023 18:56:28 -0800 (PST), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
<itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 7:49:05 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 9 Nov 2023 16:41:53 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>> >When I was a kid my mother would make mackerel patties. I hated them, but ate
>> >them just the same. Too strong fishy tasting.
>> >
>> That's what I like about them. Canned tuna's boring. Canned salmon's
>> ok, canned mackerel's nice, IMO. As far as canned goes, of course.
>>
>Since we're talking about canned fish, I had a can of King Oscar sardines
>and crackers late last night. Mmmmm, mmmmm. I made the mistake
>many weeks ago of buying a can of them in the 'Mediterranean' style.
>That turned out to be a bit of tomato and some green olives. Definitely
>won't be buying those again.

Yes, I think au naturel is better. You can always fluff them up
yourself.

On Thu, 9 Nov 2023 22:12:52 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

>On 11/9/2023 7:39 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 11/9/2023 7:33 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
>>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 5:48:02 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 9 Nov 2023 14:52:41 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>>>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 4:09:47 PM UTC-6, songbird wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a pretty simple meal (and even better that i did not
>>>>>> have to make it). :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> salmon was from canned red sockeye, used some of the juice
>>>>>> along with chopped onions and some crushed cereal, no other
>>>>>> binder, baked until browned.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> songbird
>>>>>>
>>>>> I love good salmon patties and that's something I haven't cooked in
>>>>> several
>>>>> months. There's a few cans in my larder so that's a meal to consider
>>>>> in a
>>>>> few days. Thanks for the reminder!
>>>>>
>>>>> I put a bit of cornmeal in mine and an egg as the binders.
>>>>>
>>>> Cornmeal seems to be a recurring American thing. I'd never have
>>>> thought of adding that.
>>>>
>>> It works great as a binder.  Songbird used cereal, crushed I'm sure;
>>> some people use
>>> crushed crackers.  Cornmeal might be a regional thing.
>>
>> I still have no clue why Bruce seems to think corn (in any form) is a
>> bad thing.
>>
>> Jill
>
>Oh, give him a break. He's not met Mr. Bumpy.

What are you implying Jill does with corn?

dsi1 wrote:
....
> I've never noticed canned mackerel in stores before. Mackerel patties are probably okay but I've never heard of such a dish. In the US, most people buy canned tuna or salmon. I'll look to see if there's any canned mackerel in the store. I won't buy any but knowing that it exists is the first step.

jack is another name for it and it is edible but i
do prefer sardines or salmon instead. no need to go
for the sockeye red either as i think pink is just
fine. i'm not too picky there compared to some other
things when it comes down to fish. :)

songbird

itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
....
> I love good salmon patties and that's something I haven't cooked in several
> months. There's a few cans in my larder so that's a meal to consider in a
> few days. Thanks for the reminder!

you're welcome. :)

> I put a bit of cornmeal in mine and an egg as the binders. Generally, a good
> shake of lemon pepper as well. I've never heard of them being baked, always
> fried, but that sounds interesting.

turn them after they get brown on top i can't
give a certain time because it depends upon
ingredients, how big you make them, how moist,
and how hot your oven is. i couldn't even tell
you what Mom put them in at but probably 350F
so is that a medium oven? i'm sure they'd be
good fried in a little butter on a cast iron
pan if you only had a few.

normally we make enough for two days.

no spices for Mom. i like them plain myself
too because i love onions and salmon together
and that is how i eat them without lemon or
anything else.

cornmeal and some egg would work for me i've
had them all sorts of ways by now as when i
made them for myself i would use whatever i
had on hand.

songbird

itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
....
> It works great as a binder. Songbird used cereal, crushed I'm sure; some people use
> crushed crackers. Cornmeal might be a regional thing.

it's a Mom thing, i don't have a preference as long
as i don't really taste it, rice cereal is about as
bland as you can ask for.

songbird

On 2023-11-10, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 11/9/2023 7:33 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 5:48:02 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, 9 Nov 2023 14:52:41 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 4:09:47 PM UTC-6, songbird wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> a pretty simple meal (and even better that i did not
>>>>> have to make it). :)
>>>>>
>>>>> salmon was from canned red sockeye, used some of the juice
>>>>> along with chopped onions and some crushed cereal, no other
>>>>> binder, baked until browned.
>>>>>
>>>>> songbird
>>>>>
>>>> I love good salmon patties and that's something I haven't cooked in several
>>>> months. There's a few cans in my larder so that's a meal to consider in a
>>>> few days. Thanks for the reminder!
>>>>
>>>> I put a bit of cornmeal in mine and an egg as the binders.
>>>>
>>> Cornmeal seems to be a recurring American thing. I'd never have
>>> thought of adding that.
>>>
>> It works great as a binder. Songbird used cereal, crushed I'm sure; some people use
>> crushed crackers. Cornmeal might be a regional thing.
>
> I still have no clue why Bruce seems to think corn (in any form) is a
> bad thing.

GMOs, distortion of the food supply. In 2004 (the date turned up
by a quick google), the U.S. consumed 707,000 metric tons of corn.
Canada was about 347,000. Most other countries don't even rate.

Of course, about 45% of U.S. consumption is used for animal feed,
44% for ethanol, and only 10% is used for human consumption. Of
that last 10%, about 1/3 of it is used for high-fructose corn syrup.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On 2023-11-10, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote:
> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 6:39:25 PM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> On 11/9/2023 7:33 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>> >
>> > Cornmeal might be a regional thing.
>> >
>> I still have no clue why Bruce seems to think corn (in any form) is a
>> bad thing.
>>
>> Jill
>>
> Cornbread!
> Coating for fish!
> Cornbread dressing!
> Hush puppies!
> Corndogs!
> Hoe cakes!
> Polenta!

Not every American eats those things. I certainly don't. I keep
meaning to try polenta, but when bread and pasta are available I
just don't see the point of eating cornmeal mush.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On 2023-11-10 5:46 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2023-11-10, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote:

>> Cornbread!
>> Coating for fish!
>> Cornbread dressing!
>> Hush puppies!
>> Corndogs!
>> Hoe cakes!
>> Polenta!
>
> Not every American eats those things. I certainly don't. I keep
> meaning to try polenta, but when bread and pasta are available I
> just don't see the point of eating cornmeal mush.

You should give polenta a try. It can be pretty good. That being said, I
have not had it in years. I don't eat much born. We go through about a
back of frozen corn a year and over the course of corn on the cob season
I eat only about a half dozen cobs.

I don't dislike corn, but I got tired of it years ago. My mother always
served two or three vegetables with dinner, and one of them was usually
corn.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2023-11-10, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote:
....
>> Cornbread!
>> Coating for fish!
>> Cornbread dressing!
>> Hush puppies!
>> Corndogs!
>> Hoe cakes!
>> Polenta!
>
> Not every American eats those things. I certainly don't. I keep
> meaning to try polenta, but when bread and pasta are available I
> just don't see the point of eating cornmeal mush.

blueberry muffins (we mix the corn muffin mix
with flour to cut it some as Mom doesn't like full
on corn meal), pop corn, fresh corn, frozen corn,
corn dogs are about our most frequent uses of corn
(in order of what is used most). not a huge
amount. corn syrup Mom uses for making caramel
corn, i don't normally touch it.

grits or polenta are very very rare things for
me to eat and i doubt Mom has eaten those in
this century let alone a good chunk of the last.

succotash was a thing many years ago as also
were things like corn relish and grilled corn
roasts with the extended family at the farm.

songbird

On 11/10/2023 10:30 AM, bruce bowser wrote:
> On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 5:46:13 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2023-11-10, itsjoan...@webtv.net <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 6:39:25 PM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 11/9/2023 7:33 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Cornmeal might be a regional thing.
>>>>>
>>>> I still have no clue why Bruce seems to think corn (in any form) is a
>>>> bad thing.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>> Cornbread!
>>> Coating for fish!
>>> Cornbread dressing!
>>> Hush puppies!
>>> Corndogs!
>>> Hoe cakes!
>>> Polenta!
>> Not every American eats those things. I certainly don't. I keep
>> meaning to try polenta, but when bread and pasta are available I
>> just don't see the point of eating cornmeal mush.
>
> Cindy, I've never heard of cornbread dressing and I've never even HEARD of the two at the bottom of that list up there. Is Polenta supposed to be a swanky international name for grits? Corn dogs are my favorite from up there.

Polenta is Italian. You'd find it in my house often.

Polenta comes from flint corn, which is courser and holds a firmer
texture, while dent corn (or hominy) used for grits produces a finer
consistency. And while it isn't the case across the board, the corn used
to create polenta is generally yellow, while grits are white.

On 11/9/2023 7:41 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 6:26:47 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 1:46:39 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> Don't underestimate the humble mackerel patty, though! More flavour
>>> than salmon patties.
>>>
>> I've never noticed canned mackerel in stores before. Mackerel patties are probably okay
>> but I've never heard of such a dish.
>>
> When I was a kid my mother would make mackerel patties. I hated them, but ate
> them just the same. Too strong fishy tasting.

Agreed, Joan. I tried using canned mackerel once; that "more flavour"
Bruce mentioned was more like almost spoiled fish. I'll pay the extra
pennies for the salmon. :)

Jill

On 2023-11-10 11:29 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/9/2023 7:41 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:

>> When I was a kid my mother would make mackerel patties.  I hated them,
>> but ate
>> them just the same.  Too strong fishy tasting.
>
>
> Agreed, Joan.  I tried using canned mackerel once; that "more flavour"
> Bruce mentioned was more like almost spoiled fish.  I'll pay the extra
> pennies for the salmon. :)
>

It was back in the early 70s when I worked with sea mammals and had to
cut up so much mackerel and developed an aversion to it. I was a little
upset when my wife came home with mackerel steaks for supper. I ended
up grilling them and making a lemon butter and caper sauce and they
turned out okay, but not so good that we did them again.

I seem to recall someone asking recently if they still sell canned
mackerel. I do remember seeing in a store here not all that long ago. At
the time I wondered who in their right mind would buy it.

On 11/10/2023 12:42 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2023-11-10 11:29 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> On 11/9/2023 7:41 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
>
>>> When I was a kid my mother would make mackerel patties.  I hated
>>> them, but ate
>>> them just the same.  Too strong fishy tasting.
>>
>>
>> Agreed, Joan.  I tried using canned mackerel once; that "more flavour"
>> Bruce mentioned was more like almost spoiled fish.  I'll pay the extra
>> pennies for the salmon. :)
>>
>
> It was back in the early 70s when I worked with sea mammals and had to
> cut up so much mackerel and developed an aversion to it.  I was a little
> upset when my wife came home with mackerel steaks for supper.  I ended
> up grilling them and making a lemon butter and caper sauce and they
> turned out okay, but not so good that we did them again.
>
IMO, mackerel is simply not a good tasting fish. Canning it doesn't
make it any better.

Jill

On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 07:30:34 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
<bruce2bowser@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 5:46:13 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2023-11-10, itsjoan...@webtv.net <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>> > On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 6:39:25 PM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 11/9/2023 7:33 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Cornmeal might be a regional thing.
>> >> >
>> >> I still have no clue why Bruce seems to think corn (in any form) is a
>> >> bad thing.
>> >>
>> >> Jill
>> >>
>> > Cornbread!
>> > Coating for fish!
>> > Cornbread dressing!
>> > Hush puppies!
>> > Corndogs!
>> > Hoe cakes!
>> > Polenta!
>> Not every American eats those things. I certainly don't. I keep
>> meaning to try polenta, but when bread and pasta are available I
>> just don't see the point of eating cornmeal mush.
>
>Cindy, I've never heard of cornbread dressing and I've never even HEARD of the two at the bottom of that list up there. Is Polenta supposed to be a swanky international name for grits? Corn dogs are my favorite from up there.

Even I have heard of polenta. I don't know if I've ever had it. Maybe
in a restaurant.

On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 11:29:22 -0500, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On 11/9/2023 7:41 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 6:26:47 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 1:46:39 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Don't underestimate the humble mackerel patty, though! More flavour
>>>> than salmon patties.
>>>>
>>> I've never noticed canned mackerel in stores before. Mackerel patties are probably okay
>>> but I've never heard of such a dish.
>>>
>> When I was a kid my mother would make mackerel patties. I hated them, but ate
>> them just the same. Too strong fishy tasting.
>
>
>Agreed, Joan. I tried using canned mackerel once; that "more flavour"
>Bruce mentioned was more like almost spoiled fish. I'll pay the extra
>pennies for the salmon. :)

Salmon is a safer bet for most people. It's got a more mainstream
flavour. Mackerel's very fishy, like sardines are too. I like that.

On 2023-11-10 12:49 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/10/2023 12:42 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2023-11-10 11:29 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 11/9/2023 7:41 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
>>
>>>> When I was a kid my mother would make mackerel patties.  I hated
>>>> them, but ate
>>>> them just the same.  Too strong fishy tasting.
>>>
>>>
>>> Agreed, Joan.  I tried using canned mackerel once; that "more
>>> flavour" Bruce mentioned was more like almost spoiled fish.  I'll pay
>>> the extra pennies for the salmon. :)
>>>
>>
>> It was back in the early 70s when I worked with sea mammals and had to
>> cut up so much mackerel and developed an aversion to it.  I was a
>> little upset when my wife came home with mackerel steaks for supper.
>> I ended up grilling them and making a lemon butter and caper sauce and
>> they turned out okay, but not so good that we did them again.
>>
> IMO, mackerel is simply not a good tasting fish.  Canning it doesn't
> make it any better.
>

I like salmon and tuna. Both are better fresh than canned. The canned
versions are still pretty good and quite edible, but I am not prepared
to try canned mackerel. I suppose there is the chance of dealing with
some sort of apocalyptic event with such a severe shortage of food that
I might be desperate enough to try it but I hope not.

On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 12:58:39 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2023-11-10 12:49 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> On 11/10/2023 12:42 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2023-11-10 11:29 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 11/9/2023 7:41 PM, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:
>>>
>>>>> When I was a kid my mother would make mackerel patties.  I hated
>>>>> them, but ate
>>>>> them just the same.  Too strong fishy tasting.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Agreed, Joan.  I tried using canned mackerel once; that "more
>>>> flavour" Bruce mentioned was more like almost spoiled fish.  I'll pay
>>>> the extra pennies for the salmon. :)
>>>>
>>>
>>> It was back in the early 70s when I worked with sea mammals and had to
>>> cut up so much mackerel and developed an aversion to it.  I was a
>>> little upset when my wife came home with mackerel steaks for supper.
>>> I ended up grilling them and making a lemon butter and caper sauce and
>>> they turned out okay, but not so good that we did them again.
>>>
>> IMO, mackerel is simply not a good tasting fish.  Canning it doesn't
>> make it any better.
>>
>
>I like salmon and tuna. Both are better fresh than canned. The canned
>versions are still pretty good and quite edible, but I am not prepared
>to try canned mackerel. I suppose there is the chance of dealing with
>some sort of apocalyptic event with such a severe shortage of food that
>I might be desperate enough to try it but I hope not.

There's a big difference between this type:
<https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/productdetails/664785/john-west-mackerel-fillets-in-olive-oil>

and

this type:
<https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/productdetails/80720/deep-cove-mackerel-in-tomato-sauce>

On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 3:50:00 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Nov 2023 16:46:44 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 2:41:56 PM UTC-10, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> >> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 6:26:47 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> >> >
> >> > On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 1:46:39 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Don't underestimate the humble mackerel patty, though! More flavour
> >> > > than salmon patties.
> >> > >
> >> > I've never noticed canned mackerel in stores before. Mackerel patties are probably okay
> >> > but I've never heard of such a dish.
> >> >
> >> When I was a kid my mother would make mackerel patties. I hated them, but ate
> >> them just the same. Too strong fishy tasting.
> >
> >I love broiled mackerel but smelling mackerel in the morning when you wake up ain't so pleasant.
> >
> I don't mind. If I like it in the evening, I like it in the morning,
> with the exception of alcohol.

A Japanese breakfast with a little bit of mackerel would be great. Waking up and having the house smell like fish that was fried the night before is not fine. Having a house that smells like fish is not fine.

https://www.justonecookbook.com/traditional-japanese-breakfast-at-home/