On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 11:38:23 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

>
>
>On Sun, 10 Mar 2024, Bruce wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 23:07:37 -0500, songbird <songbird@anthive.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Bruce wrote:
>>> ...
>>>> I like when fishy things taste fishy. I mean, you can hardly blame
>>>> them.
>>>
>>> much of the fishy smell actually comes from algae...
>>> having cleaned plenty of aquariums (both fresh water
>>> and salt water) plus also eating fish from various
>>> types of waters i can say that if you have a really
>>> fishy tasting fish it could be the species (some are
>>> fishier than others), but also it can be an indication
>>> of poor water quality. the same kind of trout from
>>> different streams or lakes could taste quite
>>> different.
>>>
>>> and then too, cooked vs. non-cooked also can make a
>>> lot of difference... sushi grade tuna and salmon are
>>> quite nice to me, but when cooked i'm not as fond of
>>> them. seviche i also like when made with certain
>>> fishes...
>>
>> Farmed salmon is frankenfish that's full of chicken fat, because of
>> the feed they get. Mackerel is always wild caught and very fishy, even
>> tough it comes from the ocean, not from an aquarium.
>>
>
>I recommend pike and perch. Not very "fishy" and very good. Catch them
>yourself for better taste! =)

I never see that here. Mackerel, snapper, sometimes striped trumpeter,
whiting, tuna, shark.

On Sun, 10 Mar 2024, Bruce wrote:

> On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 11:38:23 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 10 Mar 2024, Bruce wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 23:07:37 -0500, songbird <songbird@anthive.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bruce wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>> I like when fishy things taste fishy. I mean, you can hardly blame
>>>>> them.
>>>>
>>>> much of the fishy smell actually comes from algae...
>>>> having cleaned plenty of aquariums (both fresh water
>>>> and salt water) plus also eating fish from various
>>>> types of waters i can say that if you have a really
>>>> fishy tasting fish it could be the species (some are
>>>> fishier than others), but also it can be an indication
>>>> of poor water quality. the same kind of trout from
>>>> different streams or lakes could taste quite
>>>> different.
>>>>
>>>> and then too, cooked vs. non-cooked also can make a
>>>> lot of difference... sushi grade tuna and salmon are
>>>> quite nice to me, but when cooked i'm not as fond of
>>>> them. seviche i also like when made with certain
>>>> fishes...
>>>
>>> Farmed salmon is frankenfish that's full of chicken fat, because of
>>> the feed they get. Mackerel is always wild caught and very fishy, even
>>> tough it comes from the ocean, not from an aquarium.
>>>
>>
>> I recommend pike and perch. Not very "fishy" and very good. Catch them
>> yourself for better taste! =)
>
> I never see that here. Mackerel, snapper, sometimes striped trumpeter,
> whiting, tuna, shark.
>

Shark? That's uncommon! Only place where I ever had shark was iceland, and
it was pretty good. I also had sharkfin soup decades ago, but I doubt
there was any actual shark in that soup. But the one in iceland was
excellent!

On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 14:47:08 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

>
>
>On Sun, 10 Mar 2024, Bruce wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 11:38:23 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I recommend pike and perch. Not very "fishy" and very good. Catch them
>>> yourself for better taste! =)
>>
>> I never see that here. Mackerel, snapper, sometimes striped trumpeter,
>> whiting, tuna, shark.
>
>Shark? That's uncommon! Only place where I ever had shark was iceland, and
>it was pretty good. I also had sharkfin soup decades ago, but I doubt
>there was any actual shark in that soup. But the one in iceland was
>excellent!

There are a few small sharks that are commonly eaten. I'm not sure of
the exact names. Gummy shark could be one of them. I've never had
shark fin soup, real or fake.

On Mon, 11 Mar 2024, Bruce wrote:

> On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 14:47:08 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 10 Mar 2024, Bruce wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 11:38:23 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I recommend pike and perch. Not very "fishy" and very good. Catch them
>>>> yourself for better taste! =)
>>>
>>> I never see that here. Mackerel, snapper, sometimes striped trumpeter,
>>> whiting, tuna, shark.
>>
>> Shark? That's uncommon! Only place where I ever had shark was iceland, and
>> it was pretty good. I also had sharkfin soup decades ago, but I doubt
>> there was any actual shark in that soup. But the one in iceland was
>> excellent!
>
> There are a few small sharks that are commonly eaten. I'm not sure of
> the exact names. Gummy shark could be one of them. I've never had
> shark fin soup, real or fake.

Fascinating! You learn something new every day! The shark fin soup (real
or fake) was nothing to write home about, so haven't had it since then.

On 2024-03-10, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

> When I was working, we made insulated boxes for lobster fisheries. At
> times, we were able to get them very cheap.

When I was a young man, one of my friends worked for the government as
an electrical engineer on nuclear subs. Once, he had a job in New
Haven, I believe, and flew back to Nevada with a big box of East Coast,
fresh lobster. We all had a great lobster feed.
He became bored with engineering, got a degree in psychology and has
practiced in Berkeley for the last forty years. Politically, we don't
agree on much anymore. ;)

On 3/11/2024 5:02 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> On 2024-03-10, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>
>> When I was working, we made insulated boxes for lobster fisheries. At
>> times, we were able to get them very cheap.
>
>
> When I was a young man, one of my friends worked for the government as
> an electrical engineer on nuclear subs. Once, he had a job in New
> Haven, I believe, and flew back to Nevada with a big box of East Coast,
> fresh lobster. We all had a great lobster feed.
> He became bored with engineering, got a degree in psychology and has
> practiced in Berkeley for the last forty years. Politically, we don't
> agree on much anymore. ;)

Years ago, that would be quite a treat. One trip to LV I was at the
airport looking out the window as a plane was being unloaded. About 10
boxes of lobster came down the conveyor. I'm sure they sold at premium
price in the restaurant.

On 2024-03-11 5:38 p.m., Ed P wrote:
> On 3/11/2024 5:02 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

>> When I was a young man, one of my friends worked for the government as
>> an electrical engineer on nuclear subs. Once, he had a job in New
>> Haven, I believe, and flew back to Nevada with a big box of East Coast,
>> fresh lobster. We all had a great lobster feed.
>> He became bored with engineering, got a degree in psychology and has
>> practiced in Berkeley for the last forty years. Politically, we don't
>> agree on much anymore. ;)
>
> Years ago, that would be quite a treat.  One trip to LV I was at the
> airport looking out the window as a plane was being unloaded.  About 10
> boxes of lobster came down the conveyor.  I'm sure they sold at premium
> price in the restaurant.

I don't know if it still happens, but there used to be a guy who used to
sell lobsters off the back of a truck at the side of the road near my
office. They had been cooked fresh on the east coast and kept on ice
for the trip here. The trip would be a minimum 15 hours. I bought a
couple and they were pretty good.

On 11 Mar 2024 21:02:01 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On 2024-03-10, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>
>> When I was working, we made insulated boxes for lobster fisheries. At
>> times, we were able to get them very cheap.
>
>
>When I was a young man, one of my friends worked for the government as
>an electrical engineer on nuclear subs. Once, he had a job in New
>Haven, I believe, and flew back to Nevada with a big box of East Coast,
>fresh lobster. We all had a great lobster feed.
>He became bored with engineering, got a degree in psychology and has
>practiced in Berkeley for the last forty years. Politically, we don't
>agree on much anymore. ;)

He's not stuck in the 60s?

On Mon, 11 Mar 2024, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

> On 2024-03-10, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>
>> When I was working, we made insulated boxes for lobster fisheries. At
>> times, we were able to get them very cheap.
>
>
> When I was a young man, one of my friends worked for the government as
> an electrical engineer on nuclear subs. Once, he had a job in New
> Haven, I believe, and flew back to Nevada with a big box of East Coast,
> fresh lobster. We all had a great lobster feed.
> He became bored with engineering, got a degree in psychology and has
> practiced in Berkeley for the last forty years. Politically, we don't
> agree on much anymore. ;)
>

Dangerous stuff! Seems like Berkeley is good at radicalizing its students!
;)

I remember visiting once, and spent some time debating with a very nice,
long-bearded, gentleman about evolution and if my girlfriend at the time
was a hypocrite or not.

On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 10:06:21 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 11 Mar 2024, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>
>> On 2024-03-10, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>
>>> When I was working, we made insulated boxes for lobster fisheries. At
>>> times, we were able to get them very cheap.
>>
>> When I was a young man, one of my friends worked for the government as
>> an electrical engineer on nuclear subs. Once, he had a job in New
>> Haven, I believe, and flew back to Nevada with a big box of East Coast,
>> fresh lobster. We all had a great lobster feed.
>> He became bored with engineering, got a degree in psychology and has
>> practiced in Berkeley for the last forty years. Politically, we don't
>> agree on much anymore. ;)
>>
>
>Dangerous stuff! Seems like Berkeley is good at radicalizing its students!
>;)

Disagreeing with Leo doesn't mean you're radical. Quite the opposite.
Agreeing with Leo means you're radical :)

On Tue, 12 Mar 2024, Bruce wrote:

> On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 10:06:21 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2024, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-03-10, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> When I was working, we made insulated boxes for lobster fisheries. At
>>>> times, we were able to get them very cheap.
>>>
>>> When I was a young man, one of my friends worked for the government as
>>> an electrical engineer on nuclear subs. Once, he had a job in New
>>> Haven, I believe, and flew back to Nevada with a big box of East Coast,
>>> fresh lobster. We all had a great lobster feed.
>>> He became bored with engineering, got a degree in psychology and has
>>> practiced in Berkeley for the last forty years. Politically, we don't
>>> agree on much anymore. ;)
>>>
>>
>> Dangerous stuff! Seems like Berkeley is good at radicalizing its students!
>> ;)
>
> Disagreeing with Leo doesn't mean you're radical. Quite the opposite.
> Agreeing with Leo means you're radical :)
>

Oh Bruce, sometimes you are so cute! ;)

On 2024-03-12, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 10:06:21 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 11 Mar 2024, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-03-10, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> When I was working, we made insulated boxes for lobster fisheries. At
>>>> times, we were able to get them very cheap.
>>>
>>> When I was a young man, one of my friends worked for the government as
>>> an electrical engineer on nuclear subs. Once, he had a job in New
>>> Haven, I believe, and flew back to Nevada with a big box of East Coast,
>>> fresh lobster. We all had a great lobster feed.
>>> He became bored with engineering, got a degree in psychology and has
>>> practiced in Berkeley for the last forty years. Politically, we don't
>>> agree on much anymore. ;)
>>>
>>
>>Dangerous stuff! Seems like Berkeley is good at radicalizing its students!
>>;)
>
> Disagreeing with Leo doesn't mean you're radical. Quite the opposite.
> Agreeing with Leo means you're radical :)

Reactionary, I think you'll find.

"opposing political or social liberalization or reform"

--
Cindy Hamilton

On 12 Mar 2024 13:09:54 GMT, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com>
wrote:

>On 2024-03-12, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 10:06:21 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 11 Mar 2024, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-03-10, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> When I was working, we made insulated boxes for lobster fisheries. At
>>>>> times, we were able to get them very cheap.
>>>>
>>>> When I was a young man, one of my friends worked for the government as
>>>> an electrical engineer on nuclear subs. Once, he had a job in New
>>>> Haven, I believe, and flew back to Nevada with a big box of East Coast,
>>>> fresh lobster. We all had a great lobster feed.
>>>> He became bored with engineering, got a degree in psychology and has
>>>> practiced in Berkeley for the last forty years. Politically, we don't
>>>> agree on much anymore. ;)
>>>>
>>>
>>>Dangerous stuff! Seems like Berkeley is good at radicalizing its students!
>>>;)
>>
>> Disagreeing with Leo doesn't mean you're radical. Quite the opposite.
>> Agreeing with Leo means you're radical :)
>
>Reactionary, I think you'll find.
>
>"opposing political or social liberalization or reform"

Leo's a radical reactionary.

On 2024-03-12, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 2024-03-12, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Reactionary, I think you'll find.

"opposing political or social liberalization or reform"

For every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction. As we know,
that's physics, but the rule applies nicely to politics as well.

On 12 Mar 2024 19:47:36 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On 2024-03-12, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-03-12, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Reactionary, I think you'll find.
>
>"opposing political or social liberalization or reform"
>
>
>For every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction. As we know,
>that's physics, but the rule applies nicely to politics as well.

Think! Think harder!

D wrote:

> On Tue, 12 Mar 2024, Bruce wrote:

>> On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 10:06:21 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2024, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-03-10, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> When I was working, we made insulated boxes for lobster fisheries. At
>>>>> times, we were able to get them very cheap.
>>>>
>>>> When I was a young man, one of my friends worked for the government as
>>>> an electrical engineer on nuclear subs. Once, he had a job in New
>>>> Haven, I believe, and flew back to Nevada with a big box of East Coast,
>>>> fresh lobster. We all had a great lobster feed.
>>>> He became bored with engineering, got a degree in psychology and has
>>>> practiced in Berkeley for the last forty years. Politically, we don't
>>>> agree on much anymore. ;)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Dangerous stuff! Seems like Berkeley is good at radicalizing its students!
>>> ;)
>>
>> Disagreeing with Leo doesn't mean you're radical. Quite the opposite.
>> Agreeing with Leo means you're radical :)
>>

> Oh Bruce, sometimes you are so cute! ;)

"Miss Bruce" is our resident group troll, so she "enjoys" the "pets" and "cuddles" some here give here...

:-D

--
GM

On 2024-03-12, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On 2024-03-12, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-03-12, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Reactionary, I think you'll find.
>
> "opposing political or social liberalization or reform"
>
>
> For every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction. As we know,
> that's physics, but the rule applies nicely to politics as well.

Oh, I don't mind conservatives. They help us keep from going right
off the rails when the starry-eyed liberals try to change too much,
too quickly.

There are precious few conservatives left, though. What, exactly
is conserved by a person who wants to drown the government in a
bathtub?

--
Cindy Hamilton

On 12 Mar 2024 20:13:16 GMT, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com>
wrote:

>On 2024-03-12, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> On 2024-03-12, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
>>> On 2024-03-12, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Reactionary, I think you'll find.
>>
>> "opposing political or social liberalization or reform"
>>
>> For every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction. As we know,
>> that's physics, but the rule applies nicely to politics as well.
>
>Oh, I don't mind conservatives. They help us keep from going right
>off the rails when the starry-eyed liberals try to change too much,
>too quickly.
>
>There are precious few conservatives left, though. What, exactly
>is conserved by a person who wants to drown the government in a
>bathtub?

And the planet in pollution?

On 2024-03-12, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

> Oh, I don't mind conservatives. They help us keep from going right
> off the rails when the starry-eyed liberals try to change too much,
> too quickly.

> There are precious few conservatives left, though. What, exactly
> is conserved by a person who wants to drown the government in a
> bathtub?

I don't want to drown them. I just want to lay 75% off and allow
them to luxuriate in the social welfare tub they created.
Those left can easily pick up the slack.

On Tue, 12 Mar 2024, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

> On 2024-03-12, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-03-12, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Reactionary, I think you'll find.
>
> "opposing political or social liberalization or reform"
>
>
> For every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction. As we know,
> that's physics, but the rule applies nicely to politics as well.
>

And philosophy as well!

On Tue, 12 Mar 2024, GM wrote:

> D wrote:
>
>
>
>> On Tue, 12 Mar 2024, Bruce wrote:
>
>>> On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 10:06:21 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2024, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2024-03-10, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> When I was working, we made insulated boxes for lobster fisheries. At
>>>>>> times, we were able to get them very cheap.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I was a young man, one of my friends worked for the government as
>>>>> an electrical engineer on nuclear subs. Once, he had a job in New
>>>>> Haven, I believe, and flew back to Nevada with a big box of East Coast,
>>>>> fresh lobster. We all had a great lobster feed.
>>>>> He became bored with engineering, got a degree in psychology and has
>>>>> practiced in Berkeley for the last forty years. Politically, we don't
>>>>> agree on much anymore. ;)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dangerous stuff! Seems like Berkeley is good at radicalizing its
>>>> students!
>>>> ;)
>>>
>>> Disagreeing with Leo doesn't mean you're radical. Quite the opposite.
>>> Agreeing with Leo means you're radical :)
>>>
>
>> Oh Bruce, sometimes you are so cute! ;)
>
>
> "Miss Bruce" is our resident group troll, so she "enjoys" the "pets" and
> "cuddles" some here give here...
>
> :-D
>
>
Believe me, I've started to learn. ;)

On Tue, 12 Mar 2024, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On 2024-03-12, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> On 2024-03-12, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
>>> On 2024-03-12, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Reactionary, I think you'll find.
>>
>> "opposing political or social liberalization or reform"
>>
>>
>> For every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction. As we know,
>> that's physics, but the rule applies nicely to politics as well.
>
> Oh, I don't mind conservatives. They help us keep from going right
> off the rails when the starry-eyed liberals try to change too much,
> too quickly.
>
> There are precious few conservatives left, though. What, exactly
> is conserved by a person who wants to drown the government in a
> bathtub?
>
>

So you're more like the master mind pitting socialists and conservatives
against each other to get the mixture "just right"?

On 12 Mar 2024 20:38:14 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On 2024-03-12, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh, I don't mind conservatives. They help us keep from going right
>> off the rails when the starry-eyed liberals try to change too much,
>> too quickly.
>
>> There are precious few conservatives left, though. What, exactly
>> is conserved by a person who wants to drown the government in a
>> bathtub?
>
>
>I don't want to drown them. I just want to lay 75% off and allow
>them to luxuriate in the social welfare tub they created.
>Those left can easily pick up the slack.

Aww... If only things were as simple as the little rightwingers think
with their little brains :)

On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 21:43:58 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

>
>
>On Tue, 12 Mar 2024, GM wrote:
>
>> D wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, 12 Mar 2024, Bruce wrote:
>>
>>>> On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 10:06:21 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2024, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2024-03-10, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I was working, we made insulated boxes for lobster fisheries. At
>>>>>>> times, we were able to get them very cheap.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I was a young man, one of my friends worked for the government as
>>>>>> an electrical engineer on nuclear subs. Once, he had a job in New
>>>>>> Haven, I believe, and flew back to Nevada with a big box of East Coast,
>>>>>> fresh lobster. We all had a great lobster feed.
>>>>>> He became bored with engineering, got a degree in psychology and has
>>>>>> practiced in Berkeley for the last forty years. Politically, we don't
>>>>>> agree on much anymore. ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dangerous stuff! Seems like Berkeley is good at radicalizing its
>>>>> students!
>>>>> ;)
>>>>
>>>> Disagreeing with Leo doesn't mean you're radical. Quite the opposite.
>>>> Agreeing with Leo means you're radical :)
>>>>
>>
>>> Oh Bruce, sometimes you are so cute! ;)
>>
>>
>> "Miss Bruce" is our resident group troll, so she "enjoys" the "pets" and
>> "cuddles" some here give here...
>>
>> :-D
>>
>>
>Believe me, I've started to learn. ;)

Greg calling someone a troll is like Hitler calling someone an
antisemite.

On 2024-03-12, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On 2024-03-12, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh, I don't mind conservatives. They help us keep from going right
>> off the rails when the starry-eyed liberals try to change too much,
>> too quickly.
>
>> There are precious few conservatives left, though. What, exactly
>> is conserved by a person who wants to drown the government in a
>> bathtub?
>
>
> I don't want to drown them. I just want to lay 75% off and allow
> them to luxuriate in the social welfare tub they created.
> Those left can easily pick up the slack.

What was the Republican Party platform in 2020? Just refresh my
memory on that one.

--
Cindy Hamilton