On Sun, 17 Mar 2024, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On 2024-03-17, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>
>> Some of us a conservative leaning but choose not to join the MAGA cult.
>
> Well, of course. MAGA isn't actually conservative. It's just a
> cult for hating anyone different from its members.
>
>

Ahh like the woke-cult!

On 17 Mar 2024 13:51:42 GMT, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com>
wrote:

>On 2024-03-17, lucretia@florence.it <lucretia@florence.it> wrote:
>> On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 12:12:36 +1100, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 22:04:29 -0300, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 10:31:18 +1100, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 16 Mar 2024 22:45:55 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
>>>>><leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 2024-03-16, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lucretia tends to be very one-sided and to only see what confirms her
>>>>>>> existing opinion. Confirmation bias.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I believe that lucretia has experienced total war and may be the only
>>>>>>one here who has. I don't agree with her much, but I don't write her
>>>>>>off.
>>>>>
>>>>>I only write Greg off, because he just trolls.
>>>>>
>>>>>But if an Arab man was nice to Lucretia in 1948, she'll forever be on
>>>>>the Arab side and only see facts that confirm that.
>>>>
>>>>Sorry, normally I am non-racist but at the moment I fail to see why
>>>>other people can't see the unfairness of this constant bombing of Gaza
>>>>in Netanyahu's effort to eliminate totally, any Palestinians.
>>>
>>>I agree that the bombing is wrong. Lots of people, including many
>>>Jews, feel that way. Aim your anger at Israel's right wing, not at
>>>Jews in general.
>>
>> Then why haven't they made him stop, for instance, they could force
>> him to resign and face the charges that are stayed while he is in
>> power.
>
>What leverage do they have on him? Especially the millions
>of Jews who don't actually live in Israel.

He is basically their 'elected' prime minister.

On 2024-03-17, lucretia@florence.it <lucretia@florence.it> wrote:
> On 17 Mar 2024 13:51:42 GMT, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On 2024-03-17, lucretia@florence.it <lucretia@florence.it> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 12:12:36 +1100, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 22:04:29 -0300, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 10:31:18 +1100, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 16 Mar 2024 22:45:55 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
>>>>>><leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On 2024-03-16, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lucretia tends to be very one-sided and to only see what confirms her
>>>>>>>> existing opinion. Confirmation bias.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I believe that lucretia has experienced total war and may be the only
>>>>>>>one here who has. I don't agree with her much, but I don't write her
>>>>>>>off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I only write Greg off, because he just trolls.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But if an Arab man was nice to Lucretia in 1948, she'll forever be on
>>>>>>the Arab side and only see facts that confirm that.
>>>>>
>>>>>Sorry, normally I am non-racist but at the moment I fail to see why
>>>>>other people can't see the unfairness of this constant bombing of Gaza
>>>>>in Netanyahu's effort to eliminate totally, any Palestinians.
>>>>
>>>>I agree that the bombing is wrong. Lots of people, including many
>>>>Jews, feel that way. Aim your anger at Israel's right wing, not at
>>>>Jews in general.
>>>
>>> Then why haven't they made him stop, for instance, they could force
>>> him to resign and face the charges that are stayed while he is in
>>> power.
>>
>>What leverage do they have on him? Especially the millions
>>of Jews who don't actually live in Israel.
>
> He is basically their 'elected' prime minister.

He is basically nothing at all to Jews who live in the U.S.
For example,
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-jewish-group-protests-eight-cities-gaza-ceasefire-2023-12-15/

I ask again: what leverage do they have on him? How, exactly, are
they to exert force on him?

--
Cindy Hamilton

D wrote:

> On Sun, 17 Mar 2024, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>> On 2024-03-17, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Some of us a conservative leaning but choose not to join the MAGA cult.
>>
>> Well, of course. MAGA isn't actually conservative. It's just a
>> cult for hating anyone different from its members.
>>
>>

> Ahh like the woke-cult!

Yes, remember Hillary Clinton calling her foes "deplorables"... one of *many* examples on the US "democratic" side...

--
GM

On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 09:30:06 -0300, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

>On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 12:12:36 +1100, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 22:04:29 -0300, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 10:31:18 +1100, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 16 Mar 2024 22:45:55 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
>>>><leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 2024-03-16, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Lucretia tends to be very one-sided and to only see what confirms her
>>>>>> existing opinion. Confirmation bias.
>>>>>
>>>>>I believe that lucretia has experienced total war and may be the only
>>>>>one here who has. I don't agree with her much, but I don't write her
>>>>>off.
>>>>
>>>>I only write Greg off, because he just trolls.
>>>>
>>>>But if an Arab man was nice to Lucretia in 1948, she'll forever be on
>>>>the Arab side and only see facts that confirm that.
>>>
>>>Sorry, normally I am non-racist but at the moment I fail to see why
>>>other people can't see the unfairness of this constant bombing of Gaza
>>>in Netanyahu's effort to eliminate totally, any Palestinians.
>>
>>I agree that the bombing is wrong. Lots of people, including many
>>Jews, feel that way. Aim your anger at Israel's right wing, not at
>>Jews in general.
>
>Then why haven't they made him stop, for instance, they could force
>him to resign and face the charges that are stayed while he is in
>power.

I don't know the details of Israeli politics. I know that the polls
say Netanyahu would lose an election of there was one today.

On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 08:48:22 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On 3/16/2024 8:47 PM, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
>> On 16 Mar 2024 20:54:09 GMT, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Are you aware that there are Jews who do not live in Israel?
>>
>> Yes of course, in the USA and that is why Biden constantly does not
>> fire at Netanyahu, the 'Jewish vote' in the USA!
>
>I only know three, no make that four, Jewish people (that I know of).
>None of them support or voted for Biden. It astonishes me they fail to
>recognize if Trump had lived in Hitler's time he would have been
>goose-stepping right alongside.

Bingo.

On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 09:15:43 -0400, songbird <songbird@anthive.com>
wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>...
>> By the way, I'm not saying that Americans are dumber than Europeans or
>> Australians. That's unlikely. But in the US the dumber ones have a
>> stronger tendency to vote for a clown, apparently.
>
> when the party is clown enough to put a clown up for a vote
>that's what happens.
>
> the clown barely got elected the first time. we had the
>warning from when a shrub got elected via the same sort of
>happening, but the system was not fixed. so we got what we
>deserved.

A woody perennial plant, smaller than a tree, with several major
branches arising from near the base of the main stem?

D wrote:

> On Sun, 17 Mar 2024, GM wrote:

>> D wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Sat, 16 Mar 2024, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>>
>>>> On 2024-03-15, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would never have dreamt that I would experience humanity retrogress so
>>>>> much in my life. Before I used to believe in progress, but now I'm not so
>>>>> sure.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> While searching for the "root cause", I came up with the Internet.
>>>> Idiots become influencers. Influencers gather disciples. Disciples vote.
>>>> Politicians scramble for clustered votes, and here we are.
>>>>
>>
>>> Well, I'm sure that at least we've managed to influence one or two people
>>> in this forum, right? ;)
>>
>>
>> On this forum, Leo and myself are the two politically moderate "voices of
>> reason" (of those of us who discuss politics...); Dave Smith, a Canadian, is
>> also somewhat "reasonable", but unfortunately, like many here, he suffers
>> that dread malady "Trump Derangement Syndrome", lol...:
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_derangement_syndrome
>>
>> "Trump derangement syndrome (TDS) is a pejorative term, usually for criticism
>> or negative reactions to former United States president Donald Trump that are
>> perceived to be irrational and to have little regard towards Trump's actual
>> policy positions, or actions undertaken by his administration..."
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>>

> Oh well, for the moment then, we're 3! ;)

"Welcome to the club..."

;-)

--
GM

On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 15:45:58 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 17 Mar 2024, Bruce wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 11:24:14 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> Indeed, we see this amongst the mainstream "regime media" all over the
>>>> West...
>>>
>>> You bet! I see the same thing and I'm sitting in the middle of
>>> "socialist heaven"... europe.
>>
>> Most of Europe has a right wing government at the moment. Just because
>> they're not fascists, doesn't mean they're socialists.
>>
>> <snipped the rest unread, phew>
>
>You do know that right wing in europe and right wing in the US is vastly
>different? Right wing in most of europe is basically right wing
>democracts.

Yes, European right wing has a little bit more empathy and humanity.
It's also not as poisoned by fundamentalist Christianity as in the US.

On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 15:50:15 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

>
>
>On Sun, 17 Mar 2024, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> On 2024-03-17, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Some of us a conservative leaning but choose not to join the MAGA cult.
>>
>> Well, of course. MAGA isn't actually conservative. It's just a
>> cult for hating anyone different from its members.
>>
>>
>
>Ahh like the woke-cult!

Yes, but the MAGA cult is much bigger. Half of the US seems to be a
MAGA dumbass.

On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 13:46:40 -0300, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

>On 17 Mar 2024 13:51:42 GMT, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On 2024-03-17, lucretia@florence.it <lucretia@florence.it> wrote:
>>>
>>> Then why haven't they made him stop, for instance, they could force
>>> him to resign and face the charges that are stayed while he is in
>>> power.
>>
>>What leverage do they have on him? Especially the millions
>>of Jews who don't actually live in Israel.
>
>He is basically their 'elected' prime minister.

The country's at war. I don't think it's easy to get rid of a prime
minister during a state of emergency, in any country.

Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

> On 2024-03-16, cshenk <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
> > Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> >
> >> On 2024-03-15, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > We've had mail-in ballots all my life, Leo. Trump has used them.
> >> > Haven't you? I certainly have.
> >>
> >>
> >> Mail-in or absentee? You used to have to have a damned good reason
> to >> vote absentee. And no, I've never voted mail-in or absentee.
> >> If you can't get your butt down to the polling station to vote in
> >> person (or vote absentee, not mail-in), you don't care enough about
> >> voting to have a voice.
> >
> > Sure, for 26 years I could have hopped a plane and flown to SC to
> > vote....
>
>
> Service members were expected to vote absentee, not mail-in. Absentee
> requires a commitment; mail-in doesn't.
> Sitting on your dead butt, high on coke and handing your blank, but
> signed, ballot to a "community organizer" for a "consideration" isn't
> what this country should be about.
> I just learned what "butt" means, so I'm using it. "Butt" sounds way
> more definitive than "arse". ;)

It's the same thing Leo. It gets mailed in. It's identical in all
ways. Form and everything. You are trying to make a distinction that
doesn't exist.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On 2024-03-16, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > On 2024-03-16, cshenk <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
> >> Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> > >
> >>> On 2024-03-15, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > We've had mail-in ballots all my life, Leo. Trump has used
> them. >>> > Haven't you? I certainly have.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mail-in or absentee? You used to have to have a damned good
> reason to >>> vote absentee. And no, I've never voted mail-in or
> absentee. >>> If you can't get your butt down to the polling station
> to vote in >>> person (or vote absentee, not mail-in), you don't care
> enough about >>> voting to have a voice.
> > >
> >> Sure, for 26 years I could have hopped a plane and flown to SC to
> >> vote....
> >
> >
> > Service members were expected to vote absentee, not mail-in.
> > Absentee requires a commitment; mail-in doesn't.
>
> I'm sure the states that have implemented exclusively mail-in voting
> would disagree with you.

I'm unaware any have done that. I just have issues with no id asked
for. They should allow for many types.

On 2024-03-17 8:12 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2024-03-17 6:43 a.m., D wrote:
>
>> I hope that that international funding will come with strict
>> requirements about governance for the area.
>>
>> Not like now when the UN has been funding Hamas, but real controls. I
>> think there is much to be said for israel administering such a
>> program, since we can then be sure that there won't be any hidden
>> funding and rebuilds of hamas.
>
>
> They have been receiving a lot of funding for years.

Israel has been receiving a LOT of funding for years!!!

songbird wrote:

> cshenk wrote:
> ...mail in voting...
> > Yup! That's how military vote from all over the world. I didn't
> > become a Virginia resident until 31May2009. Couldn't until I
> > brought in my DD214 (honorable retirement paperwork proof). That
> > let me register to vote in the state of Virginia vice South
> > Carolina. Also simplified my taxes as I was paying state taxes in
> > SC until the and now Don and I both pay Virginia.
>
> isn't it a great example of how Leo wants to control voting
> to be allowed by only those who show up in person?
>
> you can almost hear his boots clicking together he's
> puckered up so tight.
>
> disenfranchising elderly people and those unable to
> travel to a polling station along with those serving our
> country overseas (diplomats, agents and the military) is
> a great way to tell people that their country's gov't (aka
> us) cares for them.
>
>
> songbird

Yes, not he's trying to play games and pretend an absentee ballot is
different from mail in. Good luck. Even on shore duty in Virginia
before military retirement I had to do a mail in to SC because it was
my legal state of residence.

On 2024-03-17, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
> Some of us a conservative leaning but choose not to join the MAGA cult.

A Connecticut Yankee in Gov. DeSantis' Court. Does he know?

On 2024-03-17, GM <gregorymorrow@msn.com> wrote:
> Ed P wrote:
>> I'll let you know in November if it worked.

> Fair enough... and I'll "sweeten the deal" - if you vote for President Trump, I'll gift you
> one of those Viennese Sacher Tortes that I know you like:

> https://www.sacher.com/en/original-sacher-torte/recipe/

No! No! No! Vote harvesting! ;)

On 17/03/2024 19:22, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 09:15:43 -0400, songbird <songbird@anthive.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Bruce wrote:
>> ...
>>> By the way, I'm not saying that Americans are dumber than Europeans or
>>> Australians. That's unlikely. But in the US the dumber ones have a
>>> stronger tendency to vote for a clown, apparently.
>>
>> when the party is clown enough to put a clown up for a vote
>> that's what happens.
>>
>> the clown barely got elected the first time. we had the
>> warning from when a shrub got elected via the same sort of
>> happening, but the system was not fixed. so we got what we
>> deserved.
>
> A woody perennial plant, smaller than a tree, with several major
> branches arising from near the base of the main stem?
>
A bush...

On Mon, 18 Mar 2024, Bruce wrote:

> On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 15:45:58 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 17 Mar 2024, Bruce wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 11:24:14 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Indeed, we see this amongst the mainstream "regime media" all over the
>>>>> West...
>>>>
>>>> You bet! I see the same thing and I'm sitting in the middle of
>>>> "socialist heaven"... europe.
>>>
>>> Most of Europe has a right wing government at the moment. Just because
>>> they're not fascists, doesn't mean they're socialists.
>>>
>>> <snipped the rest unread, phew>
>>
>> You do know that right wing in europe and right wing in the US is vastly
>> different? Right wing in most of europe is basically right wing
>> democracts.
>
> Yes, European right wing has a little bit more empathy and humanity.
> It's also not as poisoned by fundamentalist Christianity as in the US.
>

What do you mean? Ahh, you mean more stupidity, got it! ;) Jesus died for
your sins too, you know!

On Mon, 18 Mar 2024, Bruce wrote:

> On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 15:50:15 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 17 Mar 2024, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-03-17, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Some of us a conservative leaning but choose not to join the MAGA cult.
>>>
>>> Well, of course. MAGA isn't actually conservative. It's just a
>>> cult for hating anyone different from its members.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Ahh like the woke-cult!
>
> Yes, but the MAGA cult is much bigger. Half of the US seems to be a
> MAGA dumbass.
>

How come Biden is president then?

On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 21:52:53 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

>
>
>On Mon, 18 Mar 2024, Bruce wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 15:50:15 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 17 Mar 2024, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-03-17, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Some of us a conservative leaning but choose not to join the MAGA cult.
>>>>
>>>> Well, of course. MAGA isn't actually conservative. It's just a
>>>> cult for hating anyone different from its members.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ahh like the woke-cult!
>>
>> Yes, but the MAGA cult is much bigger. Half of the US seems to be a
>> MAGA dumbass.
>
>How come Biden is president then?

The other half are the smarter ones.

On 2024-03-17, cshenk <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> On 2024-03-16, Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> > On 2024-03-16, cshenk <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
>> >> Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>> > >
>> >>> On 2024-03-15, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > We've had mail-in ballots all my life, Leo. Trump has used
>> them. >>> > Haven't you? I certainly have.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Mail-in or absentee? You used to have to have a damned good
>> reason to >>> vote absentee. And no, I've never voted mail-in or
>> absentee. >>> If you can't get your butt down to the polling station
>> to vote in >>> person (or vote absentee, not mail-in), you don't care
>> enough about >>> voting to have a voice.
>> > >
>> >> Sure, for 26 years I could have hopped a plane and flown to SC to
>> >> vote....
>> >
>> >
>> > Service members were expected to vote absentee, not mail-in.
>> > Absentee requires a commitment; mail-in doesn't.
>>
>> I'm sure the states that have implemented exclusively mail-in voting
>> would disagree with you.
>
> I'm unaware any have done that.

You don't read the news much, do you? It was a hot topic in 2020.

The laws in California, Colorado, Hawaii, Nevada, Oregon, Utah, Vermont,
Washington, and the District of Columbia permit elections to be
conducted entirely by mail.

Nebraska and North Dakota permit counties to opt into conducting
elections by mail.

Alaska, Arizona, Florida, Kansas, Maryland, Montana, New Mexico, and
Wyoming allow specific small elections to be conducted by mail.

Idaho, Minnesota, New Jersey and New Mexico permit mostly-mail
elections for certain small jurisdictions.

https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/table-18-states-with-all-mail-elections

> I just have issues with no id asked
> for. They should allow for many types.

Where do they issue ballots with no identification?

Each state has its own system for authenticating voters and ensuring
safe ballot handling.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 14:10:17 -0600, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

>On 2024-03-17 8:12 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2024-03-17 6:43 a.m., D wrote:
>>
>>> I hope that that international funding will come with strict
>>> requirements about governance for the area.
>>>
>>> Not like now when the UN has been funding Hamas, but real controls. I
>>> think there is much to be said for israel administering such a
>>> program, since we can then be sure that there won't be any hidden
>>> funding and rebuilds of hamas.
>>
>>
>> They have been receiving a lot of funding for years.
>
>Israel has been receiving a LOT of funding for years!!!

And still receives billions from the USA!

On Mon, 18 Mar 2024, Bruce wrote:

> On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 21:52:53 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 18 Mar 2024, Bruce wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 15:50:15 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 17 Mar 2024, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2024-03-17, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Some of us a conservative leaning but choose not to join the MAGA cult.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, of course. MAGA isn't actually conservative. It's just a
>>>>> cult for hating anyone different from its members.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ahh like the woke-cult!
>>>
>>> Yes, but the MAGA cult is much bigger. Half of the US seems to be a
>>> MAGA dumbass.
>>
>> How come Biden is president then?
>
> The other half are the smarter ones.
>
Ahh, cheaters you mean!

On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 18:43:22 -0300, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

>On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 14:10:17 -0600, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>>On 2024-03-17 8:12 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2024-03-17 6:43 a.m., D wrote:
>>>
>>>> I hope that that international funding will come with strict
>>>> requirements about governance for the area.
>>>>
>>>> Not like now when the UN has been funding Hamas, but real controls. I
>>>> think there is much to be said for israel administering such a
>>>> program, since we can then be sure that there won't be any hidden
>>>> funding and rebuilds of hamas.
>>>
>>> They have been receiving a lot of funding for years.
>>
>>Israel has been receiving a LOT of funding for years!!!
>
>And still receives billions from the USA!

Worldwide: 15 million Jews, 456 million Arabs, 1.8 billion Muslims. A
bit of help is only fair.