On Mon, 30 May 2022 21:53:18 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

>On Mon, 30 May 2022 18:30:09 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 27 May 2022 05:23:49 -0700 (PDT), True North
>><princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Will this latest event in Texas be the one to bring sanity to gun regulations or will it just be another round of hand wringing before something new pops up to occupy the flighty attention of the average American.
>>
>>Well, dummy, there's always this, but if you say something about it
>>you're a racist.
>>
>>https://abc7chicago.com/memorial-day-weekend-chicago-violence-shooting-crime/11908225/
>>
>>And that's almost every weekend!
>
>In spite of all the rhetoric and cities burning, black lives don't
>really seem to matter. There is a "mass shooting" just about every
>weekend. It doesn't involve "assault weapons" and it doesn't involve
>white kids so nobody cares enough for it to make the news. It is just
>people nobody cares about shooting people nobody cares about in turf
>wars most people are oblivious to. They just like the statistic and
>imply it has something to do with white kids being shot.
>

Well, they certainly don't matter to you.

On Tue, 31 May 2022 07:31:21 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 30 May 2022 21:53:18 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 30 May 2022 18:30:09 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 27 May 2022 05:23:49 -0700 (PDT), True North
>>><princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Will this latest event in Texas be the one to bring sanity to gun regulations or will it just be another round of hand wringing before something new pops up to occupy the flighty attention of the average American.
>>>
>>>Well, dummy, there's always this, but if you say something about it
>>>you're a racist.
>>>
>>>https://abc7chicago.com/memorial-day-weekend-chicago-violence-shooting-crime/11908225/
>>>
>>>And that's almost every weekend!
>>
>>In spite of all the rhetoric and cities burning, black lives don't
>>really seem to matter. There is a "mass shooting" just about every
>>weekend. It doesn't involve "assault weapons" and it doesn't involve
>>white kids so nobody cares enough for it to make the news. It is just
>>people nobody cares about shooting people nobody cares about in turf
>>wars most people are oblivious to. They just like the statistic and
>>imply it has something to do with white kids being shot.
>>
>I agree.

Don't agree.. kill some of them.

On Tue, 31 May 2022 08:44:52 -0700, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

>On Tue, 31 May 2022 07:31:21 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 30 May 2022 21:53:18 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 30 May 2022 18:30:09 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 27 May 2022 05:23:49 -0700 (PDT), True North
>>>><princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Will this latest event in Texas be the one to bring sanity to gun regulations or will it just be another round of hand wringing before something new pops up to occupy the flighty attention of the average American.
>>>>
>>>>Well, dummy, there's always this, but if you say something about it
>>>>you're a racist.
>>>>
>>>>https://abc7chicago.com/memorial-day-weekend-chicago-violence-shooting-crime/11908225/
>>>>
>>>>And that's almost every weekend!
>>>
>>>In spite of all the rhetoric and cities burning, black lives don't
>>>really seem to matter. There is a "mass shooting" just about every
>>>weekend. It doesn't involve "assault weapons" and it doesn't involve
>>>white kids so nobody cares enough for it to make the news. It is just
>>>people nobody cares about shooting people nobody cares about in turf
>>>wars most people are oblivious to. They just like the statistic and
>>>imply it has something to do with white kids being shot.
>>>
>>I agree.
>
>Don't agree.. kill some of them.

I agree that black lives don't seem to matter, especially to other
blacks.

Who am I supposed to kill.I've started carrying, but haven't caught
the killing bug yet.

"Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> Wrote in message:r
> On 5/31/2022 9:27 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:> On 5/30/22 9:53 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 18:30:09 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:>>>>> On Fri, 27 May 2022 05:23:49 -0700 (PDT), True North>>> <princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>> Will this latest event in Texas be the one to bring sanity to gun >>>> regulations or will it just be another round of hand wringing before >>>> something new pops up to occupy the flighty attention of the average >>>> American.>>>>>> Well, dummy, there's always this, but if you say something about it>>> you're a racist.>>>>>> https://abc7chicago.com/memorial-day-weekend-chicago-violence-shooting-crime/11908225/ >>>>>>>>> And that's almost every weekend!>>>> In spite of all the rhetoric and cities burning, black lives don't>> really seem to matter. There is a "mass shooting" just about every>> weekend. It doesn't involve "assault weapons" and it doesn't involve>> white kids so nobody cares enough for it to make the news. It is just>> people nobody cares about shooting people nobody cares about in turf>> wars most people are oblivious to. They just like the statistic and>> imply it has something to do with white kids being sh
ot.>>>>> There's a lot more to it than "not making the news." One of the problems > is that there is a lot less news being covered than there used to be, > what with the death of so many local newspapers and the cutting back of > news coverage. The local news availability around here is very limited, > but shootings are covered briefly in the on-line news outlets. Back in > the good old days, the KC Star put out 13 editions a day, all day long > and all night long, and there was a huge local news hole to fill with > hard news and features, and some of those editions were especially for > outstate communities in Kansas and Missouri. Shootings were covered. > Doubt that is the case these days. I still remember the first shooting I > "covered" in person, a murder by shotgun of a woman and her boyfriend by > the woman's husband. Husband took his life, too.> Saw a video news clip this morning in which Biden suggested 9mm handgunspose a great danger because the 9mm ammo can "rip a lung out of the body".He was referring to a conversation he claims to have hadwith a doctor during a visit to a hospital trauma center 20 years ago.He couldn't remember what hospital.I'll bet those comments ar
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On Tue, 31 May 2022 09:27:01 -0400, Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:

>On 5/30/22 9:53 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 18:30:09 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 27 May 2022 05:23:49 -0700 (PDT), True North
>>> <princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Will this latest event in Texas be the one to bring sanity to gun regulations or will it just be another round of hand wringing before something new pops up to occupy the flighty attention of the average American.
>>>
>>> Well, dummy, there's always this, but if you say something about it
>>> you're a racist.
>>>
>>> https://abc7chicago.com/memorial-day-weekend-chicago-violence-shooting-crime/11908225/
>>>
>>> And that's almost every weekend!
>>
>> In spite of all the rhetoric and cities burning, black lives don't
>> really seem to matter. There is a "mass shooting" just about every
>> weekend. It doesn't involve "assault weapons" and it doesn't involve
>> white kids so nobody cares enough for it to make the news. It is just
>> people nobody cares about shooting people nobody cares about in turf
>> wars most people are oblivious to. They just like the statistic and
>> imply it has something to do with white kids being shot.
>>
>>
>There's a lot more to it than "not making the news." One of the problems
>is that there is a lot less news being covered than there used to be,
>what with the death of so many local newspapers and the cutting back of
>news coverage. The local news availability around here is very limited,
>but shootings are covered briefly in the on-line news outlets. Back in
>the good old days, the KC Star put out 13 editions a day, all day long
>and all night long, and there was a huge local news hole to fill with
>hard news and features, and some of those editions were especially for
>outstate communities in Kansas and Missouri. Shootings were covered.
>Doubt that is the case these days. I still remember the first shooting I
>"covered" in person, a murder by shotgun of a woman and her boyfriend by
>the woman's husband. Husband took his life, too.

The Bal'mer Sun is the only paper I know of that actually reports on
inner city murders but it is just statistics for the most part. The
result is eye opening if you want to spend the time looking. It points
out what I have been saying. Most murders are people nobody cares
about shooting people nobody cares about. About half go unsolved.
It also points out another thing. How many serial killers are there in
these shithole cities?
You almost have to assume, a few "enforcers" are doing a lot of the
killing and they are not being caught.
The FBI UCR also points out a very politically incorrect conclusion.
Guns don't kill people, black people with guns kill people.
More than half the murders are in a demographic that is only about
~13% of the population.
Most folks are also killed with handguns, not assault rifles, in spite
of all the hand wringing.
More people are killed with BARE HANDS than rifles of all types,
assault or otherwise.
The data is there, nobody is willing to actually look at it.
You can get the UCR as an excel file if you want to really crunch the
numbers but nobody in media likes what they get when they actually
look.

On Tue, 31 May 2022 16:20:23 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

>On Tue, 31 May 2022 09:27:01 -0400, Keyser Söze
><KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
>
>>On 5/30/22 9:53 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 18:30:09 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 27 May 2022 05:23:49 -0700 (PDT), True North
>>>> <princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Will this latest event in Texas be the one to bring sanity to gun regulations or will it just be another round of hand wringing before something new pops up to occupy the flighty attention of the average American.
>>>>
>>>> Well, dummy, there's always this, but if you say something about it
>>>> you're a racist.
>>>>
>>>> https://abc7chicago.com/memorial-day-weekend-chicago-violence-shooting-crime/11908225/
>>>>
>>>> And that's almost every weekend!
>>>
>>> In spite of all the rhetoric and cities burning, black lives don't
>>> really seem to matter. There is a "mass shooting" just about every
>>> weekend. It doesn't involve "assault weapons" and it doesn't involve
>>> white kids so nobody cares enough for it to make the news. It is just
>>> people nobody cares about shooting people nobody cares about in turf
>>> wars most people are oblivious to. They just like the statistic and
>>> imply it has something to do with white kids being shot.
>>>
>>>
>>There's a lot more to it than "not making the news." One of the problems
>>is that there is a lot less news being covered than there used to be,
>>what with the death of so many local newspapers and the cutting back of
>>news coverage. The local news availability around here is very limited,
>>but shootings are covered briefly in the on-line news outlets. Back in
>>the good old days, the KC Star put out 13 editions a day, all day long
>>and all night long, and there was a huge local news hole to fill with
>>hard news and features, and some of those editions were especially for
>>outstate communities in Kansas and Missouri. Shootings were covered.
>>Doubt that is the case these days. I still remember the first shooting I
>>"covered" in person, a murder by shotgun of a woman and her boyfriend by
>>the woman's husband. Husband took his life, too.
>
>The Bal'mer Sun is the only paper I know of that actually reports on
>inner city murders but it is just statistics for the most part. The
>result is eye opening if you want to spend the time looking. It points
>out what I have been saying. Most murders are people nobody cares
>about shooting people nobody cares about. About half go unsolved.
>It also points out another thing. How many serial killers are there in
>these shithole cities?
>You almost have to assume, a few "enforcers" are doing a lot of the
>killing and they are not being caught.
>The FBI UCR also points out a very politically incorrect conclusion.
>Guns don't kill people, black people with guns kill people.
>More than half the murders are in a demographic that is only about
>~13% of the population.
>Most folks are also killed with handguns, not assault rifles, in spite
>of all the hand wringing.
>More people are killed with BARE HANDS than rifles of all types,
>assault or otherwise.
>The data is there, nobody is willing to actually look at it.
>You can get the UCR as an excel file if you want to really crunch the
>numbers but nobody in media likes what they get when they actually
>look.

Chicago, anyone?

https://heyjackass.com/

On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 at 07:11:16 UTC-3, John H wrote:
> On Tue, 31 May 2022 16:20:23 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 31 May 2022 09:27:01 -0400, Keyser Söze
> ><KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:
> >
> >>On 5/30/22 9:53 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 18:30:09 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Fri, 27 May 2022 05:23:49 -0700 (PDT), True North
> >>>> <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Will this latest event in Texas be the one to bring sanity to gun regulations or will it just be another round of hand wringing before something new pops up to occupy the flighty attention of the average American.
> >>>>
> >>>> Well, dummy, there's always this, but if you say something about it
> >>>> you're a racist.
> >>>>
> >>>> https://abc7chicago.com/memorial-day-weekend-chicago-violence-shooting-crime/11908225/
> >>>>
> >>>> And that's almost every weekend!
> >>>
> >>> In spite of all the rhetoric and cities burning, black lives don't
> >>> really seem to matter. There is a "mass shooting" just about every
> >>> weekend. It doesn't involve "assault weapons" and it doesn't involve
> >>> white kids so nobody cares enough for it to make the news. It is just
> >>> people nobody cares about shooting people nobody cares about in turf
> >>> wars most people are oblivious to. They just like the statistic and
> >>> imply it has something to do with white kids being shot.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>There's a lot more to it than "not making the news." One of the problems
> >>is that there is a lot less news being covered than there used to be,
> >>what with the death of so many local newspapers and the cutting back of
> >>news coverage. The local news availability around here is very limited,
> >>but shootings are covered briefly in the on-line news outlets. Back in
> >>the good old days, the KC Star put out 13 editions a day, all day long
> >>and all night long, and there was a huge local news hole to fill with
> >>hard news and features, and some of those editions were especially for
> >>outstate communities in Kansas and Missouri. Shootings were covered.
> >>Doubt that is the case these days. I still remember the first shooting I
> >>"covered" in person, a murder by shotgun of a woman and her boyfriend by
> >>the woman's husband. Husband took his life, too.
> >
> >The Bal'mer Sun is the only paper I know of that actually reports on
> >inner city murders but it is just statistics for the most part. The
> >result is eye opening if you want to spend the time looking. It points
> >out what I have been saying. Most murders are people nobody cares
> >about shooting people nobody cares about. About half go unsolved.
> >It also points out another thing. How many serial killers are there in
> >these shithole cities?
> >You almost have to assume, a few "enforcers" are doing a lot of the
> >killing and they are not being caught.
> >The FBI UCR also points out a very politically incorrect conclusion.
> >Guns don't kill people, black people with guns kill people.
> >More than half the murders are in a demographic that is only about
> >~13% of the population.
> >Most folks are also killed with handguns, not assault rifles, in spite
> >of all the hand wringing.
> >More people are killed with BARE HANDS than rifles of all types,
> >assault or otherwise.
> >The data is there, nobody is willing to actually look at it.
> >You can get the UCR as an excel file if you want to really crunch the
> >numbers but nobody in media likes what they get when they actually
> >look.
> Chicago, anyone?
>
> https://heyjackass.com/

Wow, y'all sure do seem obsessed with people of colour in Chicago.

On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 05:58:09 -0700 (PDT), True North
<princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 at 07:11:16 UTC-3, John H wrote:
>> On Tue, 31 May 2022 16:20:23 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> >On Tue, 31 May 2022 09:27:01 -0400, Keyser Söze
>> ><KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>On 5/30/22 9:53 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>> >>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 18:30:09 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Fri, 27 May 2022 05:23:49 -0700 (PDT), True North
>> >>>> <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Will this latest event in Texas be the one to bring sanity to gun regulations or will it just be another round of hand wringing before something new pops up to occupy the flighty attention of the average American.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Well, dummy, there's always this, but if you say something about it
>> >>>> you're a racist.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> https://abc7chicago.com/memorial-day-weekend-chicago-violence-shooting-crime/11908225/
>> >>>>
>> >>>> And that's almost every weekend!
>> >>>
>> >>> In spite of all the rhetoric and cities burning, black lives don't
>> >>> really seem to matter. There is a "mass shooting" just about every
>> >>> weekend. It doesn't involve "assault weapons" and it doesn't involve
>> >>> white kids so nobody cares enough for it to make the news. It is just
>> >>> people nobody cares about shooting people nobody cares about in turf
>> >>> wars most people are oblivious to. They just like the statistic and
>> >>> imply it has something to do with white kids being shot.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>There's a lot more to it than "not making the news." One of the problems
>> >>is that there is a lot less news being covered than there used to be,
>> >>what with the death of so many local newspapers and the cutting back of
>> >>news coverage. The local news availability around here is very limited,
>> >>but shootings are covered briefly in the on-line news outlets. Back in
>> >>the good old days, the KC Star put out 13 editions a day, all day long
>> >>and all night long, and there was a huge local news hole to fill with
>> >>hard news and features, and some of those editions were especially for
>> >>outstate communities in Kansas and Missouri. Shootings were covered.
>> >>Doubt that is the case these days. I still remember the first shooting I
>> >>"covered" in person, a murder by shotgun of a woman and her boyfriend by
>> >>the woman's husband. Husband took his life, too.
>> >
>> >The Bal'mer Sun is the only paper I know of that actually reports on
>> >inner city murders but it is just statistics for the most part. The
>> >result is eye opening if you want to spend the time looking. It points
>> >out what I have been saying. Most murders are people nobody cares
>> >about shooting people nobody cares about. About half go unsolved.
>> >It also points out another thing. How many serial killers are there in
>> >these shithole cities?
>> >You almost have to assume, a few "enforcers" are doing a lot of the
>> >killing and they are not being caught.
>> >The FBI UCR also points out a very politically incorrect conclusion.
>> >Guns don't kill people, black people with guns kill people.
>> >More than half the murders are in a demographic that is only about
>> >~13% of the population.
>> >Most folks are also killed with handguns, not assault rifles, in spite
>> >of all the hand wringing.
>> >More people are killed with BARE HANDS than rifles of all types,
>> >assault or otherwise.
>> >The data is there, nobody is willing to actually look at it.
>> >You can get the UCR as an excel file if you want to really crunch the
>> >numbers but nobody in media likes what they get when they actually
>> >look.
>> Chicago, anyone?
>>
>> https://heyjackass.com/
>
>
>Wow, y'all sure do seem obsessed with people of colour in Chicago.

You can't wring your hands about murder without noticing who gets
murdered, where and by whom.
At least not if you are being honest with yourself.
Honesty does seem to be a weakness on the left and they hate facts
that destroy their narrative.

On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 05:58:09 -0700 (PDT), True North
<princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 at 07:11:16 UTC-3, John H wrote:
>> On Tue, 31 May 2022 16:20:23 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> >On Tue, 31 May 2022 09:27:01 -0400, Keyser Söze
>> ><KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>On 5/30/22 9:53 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>> >>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 18:30:09 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Fri, 27 May 2022 05:23:49 -0700 (PDT), True North
>> >>>> <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Will this latest event in Texas be the one to bring sanity to gun regulations or will it just be another round of hand wringing before something new pops up to occupy the flighty attention of the average American.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Well, dummy, there's always this, but if you say something about it
>> >>>> you're a racist.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> https://abc7chicago.com/memorial-day-weekend-chicago-violence-shooting-crime/11908225/
>> >>>>
>> >>>> And that's almost every weekend!
>> >>>
>> >>> In spite of all the rhetoric and cities burning, black lives don't
>> >>> really seem to matter. There is a "mass shooting" just about every
>> >>> weekend. It doesn't involve "assault weapons" and it doesn't involve
>> >>> white kids so nobody cares enough for it to make the news. It is just
>> >>> people nobody cares about shooting people nobody cares about in turf
>> >>> wars most people are oblivious to. They just like the statistic and
>> >>> imply it has something to do with white kids being shot.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>There's a lot more to it than "not making the news." One of the problems
>> >>is that there is a lot less news being covered than there used to be,
>> >>what with the death of so many local newspapers and the cutting back of
>> >>news coverage. The local news availability around here is very limited,
>> >>but shootings are covered briefly in the on-line news outlets. Back in
>> >>the good old days, the KC Star put out 13 editions a day, all day long
>> >>and all night long, and there was a huge local news hole to fill with
>> >>hard news and features, and some of those editions were especially for
>> >>outstate communities in Kansas and Missouri. Shootings were covered.
>> >>Doubt that is the case these days. I still remember the first shooting I
>> >>"covered" in person, a murder by shotgun of a woman and her boyfriend by
>> >>the woman's husband. Husband took his life, too.
>> >
>> >The Bal'mer Sun is the only paper I know of that actually reports on
>> >inner city murders but it is just statistics for the most part. The
>> >result is eye opening if you want to spend the time looking. It points
>> >out what I have been saying. Most murders are people nobody cares
>> >about shooting people nobody cares about. About half go unsolved.
>> >It also points out another thing. How many serial killers are there in
>> >these shithole cities?
>> >You almost have to assume, a few "enforcers" are doing a lot of the
>> >killing and they are not being caught.
>> >The FBI UCR also points out a very politically incorrect conclusion.
>> >Guns don't kill people, black people with guns kill people.
>> >More than half the murders are in a demographic that is only about
>> >~13% of the population.
>> >Most folks are also killed with handguns, not assault rifles, in spite
>> >of all the hand wringing.
>> >More people are killed with BARE HANDS than rifles of all types,
>> >assault or otherwise.
>> >The data is there, nobody is willing to actually look at it.
>> >You can get the UCR as an excel file if you want to really crunch the
>> >numbers but nobody in media likes what they get when they actually
>> >look.
>> Chicago, anyone?
>>
>> https://heyjackass.com/
>
>
>Wow, y'all sure do seem obsessed with people of colour in Chicago.

Why do you mention people of color?

I sure didn't.

John H <jherring@cox.net> Wrote in message:r
> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 05:58:09 -0700 (PDT), True North<princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:>On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 at 07:11:16 UTC-3, John H wrote:>> On Tue, 31 May 2022 16:20:23 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >> >> >On Tue, 31 May 2022 09:27:01 -0400, Keyser Söze >> ><KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote: >> > >> >>On 5/30/22 9:53 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 18:30:09 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> On Fri, 27 May 2022 05:23:49 -0700 (PDT), True North >> >>>> <prince...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> Will this latest event in Texas be the one to bring sanity to gun regulations or will it just be another round of hand wringing before something new pops up to occupy the flighty attention of the average American. >> >>>> >> >>>> Well, dummy, there's always this, but if you say something about it >> >>>> you're a racist. >> >>>> >> >>>> https://abc7chicago.com/memorial-day-weekend-chicago-violence-shooting-crime/11908225/ >> >>>> >> >>>> And that's almost every weekend! >> >>> >> >>> In spite of all the rhetoric and cities burning, black lives don't >> >>> really seem to matter. There is a "mass shooting" just about every >> >>> weekend.
It doesn't involve "assault weapons" and it doesn't involve >> >>> white kids so nobody cares enough for it to make the news. It is just >> >>> people nobody cares about shooting people nobody cares about in turf >> >>> wars most people are oblivious to. They just like the statistic and >> >>> imply it has something to do with white kids being shot. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>There's a lot more to it than "not making the news." One of the problems >> >>is that there is a lot less news being covered than there used to be, >> >>what with the death of so many local newspapers and the cutting back of >> >>news coverage. The local news availability around here is very limited, >> >>but shootings are covered briefly in the on-line news outlets. Back in >> >>the good old days, the KC Star put out 13 editions a day, all day long >> >>and all night long, and there was a huge local news hole to fill with >> >>hard news and features, and some of those editions were especially for >> >>outstate communities in Kansas and Missouri. Shootings were covered. >> >>Doubt that is the case these days. I still remember the first shooting I >> >>"covered" in person, a murder by shotgun of a woman and her boyfri
end by >> >>the woman's husband. Husband took his life, too. >> > >> >The Bal'mer Sun is the only paper I know of that actually reports on >> >inner city murders but it is just statistics for the most part. The >> >result is eye opening if you want to spend the time looking. It points >> >out what I have been saying. Most murders are people nobody cares >> >about shooting people nobody cares about. About half go unsolved. >> >It also points out another thing. How many serial killers are there in >> >these shithole cities? >> >You almost have to assume, a few "enforcers" are doing a lot of the >> >killing and they are not being caught. >> >The FBI UCR also points out a very politically incorrect conclusion. >> >Guns don't kill people, black people with guns kill people. >> >More than half the murders are in a demographic that is only about >> >~13% of the population. >> >Most folks are also killed with handguns, not assault rifles, in spite >> >of all the hand wringing. >> >More people are killed with BARE HANDS than rifles of all types, >> >assault or otherwise. >> >The data is there, nobody is willing to actually look at it. >> >You can get the UCR as an excel file if you want to
really crunch the >> >numbers but nobody in media likes what they get when they actually >> >look.>> Chicago, anyone? >> >> https://heyjackass.com/>>>Wow, y'all sure do seem obsessed with people of colour in Chicago.Why do you mention people of color? I sure didn't.

He wishes that there were more than 4% living in Halifax. Halifax
is too lily white, or maybe eskimo, to be considered diverse or
inclusive.

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True North <princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 at 07:11:16 UTC-3, John H wrote:
>> On Tue, 31 May 2022 16:20:23 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 31 May 2022 09:27:01 -0400, Keyser Söze
>>> <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/30/22 9:53 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 18:30:09 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 27 May 2022 05:23:49 -0700 (PDT), True North
>>>>>> <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Will this latest event in Texas be the one to bring sanity to gun
>>>>>>> regulations or will it just be another round of hand wringing
>>>>>>> before something new pops up to occupy the flighty attention of the
>>>>>>> average American.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, dummy, there's always this, but if you say something about it
>>>>>> you're a racist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://abc7chicago.com/memorial-day-weekend-chicago-violence-shooting-crime/11908225/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And that's almost every weekend!
>>>>>
>>>>> In spite of all the rhetoric and cities burning, black lives don't
>>>>> really seem to matter. There is a "mass shooting" just about every
>>>>> weekend. It doesn't involve "assault weapons" and it doesn't involve
>>>>> white kids so nobody cares enough for it to make the news. It is just
>>>>> people nobody cares about shooting people nobody cares about in turf
>>>>> wars most people are oblivious to. They just like the statistic and
>>>>> imply it has something to do with white kids being shot.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> There's a lot more to it than "not making the news." One of the problems
>>>> is that there is a lot less news being covered than there used to be,
>>>> what with the death of so many local newspapers and the cutting back of
>>>> news coverage. The local news availability around here is very limited,
>>>> but shootings are covered briefly in the on-line news outlets. Back in
>>>> the good old days, the KC Star put out 13 editions a day, all day long
>>>> and all night long, and there was a huge local news hole to fill with
>>>> hard news and features, and some of those editions were especially for
>>>> outstate communities in Kansas and Missouri. Shootings were covered.
>>>> Doubt that is the case these days. I still remember the first shooting I
>>>> "covered" in person, a murder by shotgun of a woman and her boyfriend by
>>>> the woman's husband. Husband took his life, too.
>>>
>>> The Bal'mer Sun is the only paper I know of that actually reports on
>>> inner city murders but it is just statistics for the most part. The
>>> result is eye opening if you want to spend the time looking. It points
>>> out what I have been saying. Most murders are people nobody cares
>>> about shooting people nobody cares about. About half go unsolved.
>>> It also points out another thing. How many serial killers are there in
>>> these shithole cities?
>>> You almost have to assume, a few "enforcers" are doing a lot of the
>>> killing and they are not being caught.
>>> The FBI UCR also points out a very politically incorrect conclusion.
>>> Guns don't kill people, black people with guns kill people.
>>> More than half the murders are in a demographic that is only about
>>> ~13% of the population.
>>> Most folks are also killed with handguns, not assault rifles, in spite
>>> of all the hand wringing.
>>> More people are killed with BARE HANDS than rifles of all types,
>>> assault or otherwise.
>>> The data is there, nobody is willing to actually look at it.
>>> You can get the UCR as an excel file if you want to really crunch the
>>> numbers but nobody in media likes what they get when they actually
>>> look.
>> Chicago, anyone?
>>
>> https://heyjackass.com/
>
>
> Wow, y'all sure do seem obsessed with people of colour in Chicago.
>

Where did he post anything about color?

On Tue, 31 May 2022 10:42:36 -0400 (EDT), Justan Ohlphart
<me@yourservice.com> wrote:

>Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> Wrote in message:r
>> On 5/30/22 9:53 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:> On Mon, 30 May 2022 18:30:09 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:> >> On Fri, 27 May 2022 05:23:49 -0700 (PDT), True North>> <princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>> Will this latest event in Texas be the one to bring sanity to gun regulations or will it just be another round of hand wringing before something new pops up to occupy the flighty attention of the average American.>>>> Well, dummy, there's always this, but if you say something about it>> you're a racist.>>>> https://abc7chicago.com/memorial-day-weekend-chicago-violence-shooting-crime/11908225/>>>> And that's almost every weekend!> > In spite of all the rhetoric and cities burning, black lives don't> really seem to matter. There is a "mass shooting" just about every> weekend. It doesn't involve "assault weapons" and it doesn't involve> white kids so nobody cares enough for it to make the news. It is just> people nobody cares about shooting people nobody cares about in turf>
>wars most people are oblivious to. They just like the statistic and> imply it has something to do with white kids being shot.> > There's a lot more to it than "not making the news." One of the problems is that there is a lot less news being covered than there used to be, what with the death of so many local newspapers and the cutting back of news coverage. The local news availability around here is very limited, but shootings are covered briefly in the on-line news outlets. Back in the good old days, the KC Star put out 13 editions a day, all day long and all night long, and there was a huge local news hole to fill with hard news and features, and some of those editions were especially for outstate communities in Kansas and Missouri. Shootings were covered. Doubt that is the case these days. I still remember the first shooting I "covered" in person, a murder by shotgun of a woman and her boyfriend by the woman's husband. Husband took his life, too.-- * Lock up Biden and his family
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>
>
>Millions of foreigners are streaming across our southern border
> and it gets almost no coverage by the press. Parts of Europe
> cannot cut off Russian oil because the richest oil reserve in the
> world is tied up in red tape. Almost no news coverage. Ukraine,
> not much there. Wassup with Taiwan, China, North Korea, Iran?
> What's happening at the White House?
>Isn't anything newsworthy besides January 6, planned parenthood,
> gun control, twitter and Johnny Depp?
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Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
knife?

On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
<califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:

>Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
>as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
>after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
>Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
>cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
>walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
>knife?

It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
blaze of gunfire.
We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
End it now.

The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a niche item
only really known to a few collectors and gun folks.

The movies are just bloody roadrunner cartoons advertising more
firepower with the next release.. I won't even watch most of them.
How many rounds get fired these days in an action flick? Thousands
anyway.
Everyone in the movies has a machine gun and nobody seems to get in
trouble killing people.
I know folks say it is just a movie but if people were not swayed by
what they see on screen, the companies wouldn't be advertising there.

The biggest trigger to buy them was when Clinton said they were banned
and then allowed TWO MILLION to be imported from China with minor
modifications to skirt the law. I guess those $10,000 tea parties
Clinton had, paid off for the Chinese Army that is behind PolyTech and
Norico.
Once people bought them, they became a glut on the market. You could
get a slightly used or even unfired AK for about $200 around here
second hand for a while after the novelty wore off.

On 6/7/22 12:13 AM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
> <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
>> walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
>> knife?
>
> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
> blaze of gunfire.
> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
> End it now.
>
> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a niche item
> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks.
>

Teens in all of the modern western world are exposed to the same sorts
of media and violent video games but only in the USA do we have the
large number and frequency of mass shootings. I think the answer lies
elsewhere.

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On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

>On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
><califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
>>as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
>>after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
>>Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
>>cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
>>walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
>>knife?
>
>It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
>think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
>blaze of gunfire.
>We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
>games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
>is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
>don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
>End it now.
>
>The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
>movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a niche item
>only really known to a few collectors and gun folks.
>
And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50
years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.

>The movies are just bloody roadrunner cartoons advertising more
>firepower with the next release.. I won't even watch most of them.
>How many rounds get fired these days in an action flick? Thousands
>anyway.
>Everyone in the movies has a machine gun and nobody seems to get in
>trouble killing people.
>I know folks say it is just a movie but if people were not swayed by
>what they see on screen, the companies wouldn't be advertising there.
>
>The biggest trigger to buy them was when Clinton said they were banned
>and then allowed TWO MILLION to be imported from China with minor
>modifications to skirt the law. I guess those $10,000 tea parties
>Clinton had, paid off for the Chinese Army that is behind PolyTech and
>Norico.
>Once people bought them, they became a glut on the market. You could
>get a slightly used or even unfired AK for about $200 around here
>second hand for a while after the novelty wore off.

On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 09:35:11 -0400, Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:

>On 6/7/22 12:13 AM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
>> <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
>>> walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
>>> knife?
>>
>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
>> blaze of gunfire.
>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
>> End it now.
>>
>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a niche item
>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks.
>>
>
>Teens in all of the modern western world are exposed to the same sorts
>of media and violent video games but only in the USA do we have the
>large number and frequency of mass shootings. I think the answer lies
>elsewhere.

“One of the ways Chicago is different is that our social conditions
are not anything like those now in New York City and Los Angeles,”
Jens Ludwig, director of the Crime Lab, told a City Club audience
early this year. “We are not just the most segregated city in America,
but the level of concentrated poverty we have in our neighborhoods is
unlike anything in Los Angeles or New York. You would not find an
Englewood or Garfield Park anywhere in Los Angeles and New York.”

The dynamics at play, the ones Chicagoans want to understand to end
the bloodshed, are complex. Gang life is a substitute for hope in
isolated neighborhoods. Every shooting invites a retaliatory attack.
In a city of 2.7 million people, a relatively small number of
criminals — perhaps 5,000 to 10,000 thugs and drug dealers — are
driving a large share of the violence. “It’s the same individuals that
continuously commit these crimes,” Chicago Police Department
Superintendent Eddie Johnson said.

Black lives matter, except to other blacks. This holds true for
Hispanics also.

More: "We failed as a criminal justice entity in the past. Mr. Johnson
felt invincible from the law; and rightfully so, even after five
felony convictions, one of them for beating and imprisoning a women
for several hours in his house; he never served a single day in
prison. I would request the court take his criminal past into
consideration along with his current monstrosities. It's imperative
that he receive the maximum possible sentence for this aggravated and
atrocious act. That will give some amount of closure to the victims'
families and make up for our past mistakes; if Mr. Johnson was ...
sent to prison on his violent case against women in 2009 or the two
2012 cases, this violent event would have never taken place and the
victims would still be alive today."

Let's fire some liberal judges.

On 6/7/22 10:09 AM, John H wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 09:35:11 -0400, Keyser Söze
> <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
>
>> On 6/7/22 12:13 AM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
>>> <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
>>>> walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
>>>> knife?
>>>
>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
>>> blaze of gunfire.
>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
>>> End it now.
>>>
>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a niche item
>>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks.
>>>
>>
>> Teens in all of the modern western world are exposed to the same sorts
>> of media and violent video games but only in the USA do we have the
>> large number and frequency of mass shootings. I think the answer lies
>> elsewhere.
>
> “One of the ways Chicago is different is that our social conditions
> are not anything like those now in New York City and Los Angeles,”
> Jens Ludwig, director of the Crime Lab, told a City Club audience
> early this year. “We are not just the most segregated city in America,
> but the level of concentrated poverty we have in our neighborhoods is
> unlike anything in Los Angeles or New York. You would not find an
> Englewood or Garfield Park anywhere in Los Angeles and New York.”
>
> The dynamics at play, the ones Chicagoans want to understand to end
> the bloodshed, are complex. Gang life is a substitute for hope in
> isolated neighborhoods. Every shooting invites a retaliatory attack.
> In a city of 2.7 million people, a relatively small number of
> criminals — perhaps 5,000 to 10,000 thugs and drug dealers — are
> driving a large share of the violence. “It’s the same individuals that
> continuously commit these crimes,” Chicago Police Department
> Superintendent Eddie Johnson said.
>
> Black lives matter, except to other blacks. This holds true for
> Hispanics also.
>
> More: "We failed as a criminal justice entity in the past. Mr. Johnson
> felt invincible from the law; and rightfully so, even after five
> felony convictions, one of them for beating and imprisoning a women
> for several hours in his house; he never served a single day in
> prison. I would request the court take his criminal past into
> consideration along with his current monstrosities. It's imperative
> that he receive the maximum possible sentence for this aggravated and
> atrocious act. That will give some amount of closure to the victims'
> families and make up for our past mistakes; if Mr. Johnson was ...
> sent to prison on his violent case against women in 2009 or the two
> 2012 cases, this violent event would have never taken place and the
> victims would still be alive today."
>
> Let's fire some liberal judges.

Nice try at shoveling your racism, Herring, but what is being discussed
are the mass shootings being committed by mostly white boys at schools,
shopping centers, churches. The black gang-related shootings are
horrible, of course, but are manifestations of a different problem.

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On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 09:35:11 -0400, Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:

>On 6/7/22 12:13 AM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
>> <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
>>> walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
>>> knife?
>>
>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
>> blaze of gunfire.
>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
>> End it now.
>>
>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a niche item
>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks.
>>
>
>Teens in all of the modern western world are exposed to the same sorts
>of media and violent video games but only in the USA do we have the
>large number and frequency of mass shootings. I think the answer lies
>elsewhere.

Perhaps our society as a whole explains the difference. Bear in mind
you need to look at the teens who do most of the shooting and it is
not that white suburban kid in a school. It is the teen gang member in
the inner city. They just don't make the news.
That is where the hopelessness really thrives. If you are a kid in the
slums of West Bal'mer, your best chance to actually make more than $8
an hour is in the drug trade. That means guns and violence.
The vast majority of "mass shootings" like the dozen or more they are
wringing their hands about on TV this week happened in that
environment. We won't say that.
I think it is amusing that the same talking heads on our TV news who
are alluding to the idea that there were a dozen school shootings or
some other horror and at the same time they report on our most
infamous mass shooting here and showing the gang members going off to
do life for it.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fort-myers-nightclub-shooting-club-blu-multiple-people-shot-in-florida-nightclub-report/
https://www.news-press.com/story/news/crime/2022/05/03/club-blu-mass-shooting-kierra-russ-found-guilty-left-2-dead-fort-myers/9585716002/

Pack up 10,000 gangbangers from any US city and dump them in Sweden,
watch their crime rate soar. Unfortunately that culture also bleeds
out into our suburbs too.

On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
>><califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
>>>as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
>>>after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
>>>Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
>>>cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
>>>walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
>>>knife?
>>
>>It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
>>think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
>>blaze of gunfire.
>>We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
>>games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
>>is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
>>don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
>>End it now.
>>
>>The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
>>movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a niche item
>>only really known to a few collectors and gun folks.
>>
>And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50
>years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.
>

Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach
to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand
in the army and marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs
but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually
handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,
since they became cops and not life savers.

On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:09:28 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 09:35:11 -0400, Keyser Söze
><KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
>
>>On 6/7/22 12:13 AM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
>>> <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
>>>> walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
>>>> knife?
>>>
>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
>>> blaze of gunfire.
>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
>>> End it now.
>>>
>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a niche item
>>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks.
>>>
>>
>>Teens in all of the modern western world are exposed to the same sorts
>>of media and violent video games but only in the USA do we have the
>>large number and frequency of mass shootings. I think the answer lies
>>elsewhere.
>
>“One of the ways Chicago is different is that our social conditions
>are not anything like those now in New York City and Los Angeles,”
>Jens Ludwig, director of the Crime Lab, told a City Club audience
>early this year. “We are not just the most segregated city in America,
>but the level of concentrated poverty we have in our neighborhoods is
>unlike anything in Los Angeles or New York. You would not find an
>Englewood or Garfield Park anywhere in Los Angeles and New York.”
>
>The dynamics at play, the ones Chicagoans want to understand to end
>the bloodshed, are complex. Gang life is a substitute for hope in
>isolated neighborhoods. Every shooting invites a retaliatory attack.
>In a city of 2.7 million people, a relatively small number of
>criminals — perhaps 5,000 to 10,000 thugs and drug dealers — are
>driving a large share of the violence. “It’s the same individuals that
>continuously commit these crimes,” Chicago Police Department
>Superintendent Eddie Johnson said.
>
>Black lives matter, except to other blacks. This holds true for
>Hispanics also.
>
>More: "We failed as a criminal justice entity in the past. Mr. Johnson
>felt invincible from the law; and rightfully so, even after five
>felony convictions, one of them for beating and imprisoning a women
>for several hours in his house; he never served a single day in
>prison. I would request the court take his criminal past into
>consideration along with his current monstrosities. It's imperative
>that he receive the maximum possible sentence for this aggravated and
>atrocious act. That will give some amount of closure to the victims'
>families and make up for our past mistakes; if Mr. Johnson was ...
>sent to prison on his violent case against women in 2009 or the two
>2012 cases, this violent event would have never taken place and the
>victims would still be alive today."
>
>Let's fire some liberal judges.

There are serial killers in that environment that make Jeff Dahmer and
Berkowitz look like Boy Scouts. So many murders go unsolved in those
communities that we don't even have a clue how many these thugs have
killed. The last time I looked at the Bal'mer Sun stats page it was
over half of the 325-350 murders a year that go unsolved.

On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 11:36:15 -0400, Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:

>On 6/7/22 10:09 AM, John H wrote:
>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 09:35:11 -0400, Keyser Söze
>> <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/7/22 12:13 AM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
>>>> <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
>>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
>>>>> knife?
>>>>
>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
>>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
>>>> blaze of gunfire.
>>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
>>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
>>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
>>>> End it now.
>>>>
>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a niche item
>>>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Teens in all of the modern western world are exposed to the same sorts
>>> of media and violent video games but only in the USA do we have the
>>> large number and frequency of mass shootings. I think the answer lies
>>> elsewhere.
>>
>> “One of the ways Chicago is different is that our social conditions
>> are not anything like those now in New York City and Los Angeles,”
>> Jens Ludwig, director of the Crime Lab, told a City Club audience
>> early this year. “We are not just the most segregated city in America,
>> but the level of concentrated poverty we have in our neighborhoods is
>> unlike anything in Los Angeles or New York. You would not find an
>> Englewood or Garfield Park anywhere in Los Angeles and New York.”
>>
>> The dynamics at play, the ones Chicagoans want to understand to end
>> the bloodshed, are complex. Gang life is a substitute for hope in
>> isolated neighborhoods. Every shooting invites a retaliatory attack.
>> In a city of 2.7 million people, a relatively small number of
>> criminals — perhaps 5,000 to 10,000 thugs and drug dealers — are
>> driving a large share of the violence. “It’s the same individuals that
>> continuously commit these crimes,” Chicago Police Department
>> Superintendent Eddie Johnson said.
>>
>> Black lives matter, except to other blacks. This holds true for
>> Hispanics also.
>>
>> More: "We failed as a criminal justice entity in the past. Mr. Johnson
>> felt invincible from the law; and rightfully so, even after five
>> felony convictions, one of them for beating and imprisoning a women
>> for several hours in his house; he never served a single day in
>> prison. I would request the court take his criminal past into
>> consideration along with his current monstrosities. It's imperative
>> that he receive the maximum possible sentence for this aggravated and
>> atrocious act. That will give some amount of closure to the victims'
>> families and make up for our past mistakes; if Mr. Johnson was ...
>> sent to prison on his violent case against women in 2009 or the two
>> 2012 cases, this violent event would have never taken place and the
>> victims would still be alive today."
>>
>> Let's fire some liberal judges.
>
>Nice try at shoveling your racism, Herring, but what is being discussed
>are the mass shootings being committed by mostly white boys at schools,
>shopping centers, churches. The black gang-related shootings are
>horrible, of course, but are manifestations of a different problem.

OK then, tell that to the news people who co-mingle those stats.
This week they are talking about over a dozen "mass shootings" that
happened over the weekend and exactly ZERO of them were "white boys"
shooting up "schools, shopping centers and churches".
Then look at some of the non-gang shootings.
In fact Uvalde was an Hispanic kid, Tulsa was a black guy, as was the
Brooklyn subway shooter. That is just this year.
The Navy Yard was a black guy and Ft Hood was an Arab.
"Active shooter" seems to be an equal opportunity crime.

On 6/7/22 12:43 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 11:36:15 -0400, Keyser Söze
> <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
>
>> On 6/7/22 10:09 AM, John H wrote:
>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 09:35:11 -0400, Keyser Söze
>>> <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/7/22 12:13 AM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
>>>>> <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
>>>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
>>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
>>>>>> knife?
>>>>>
>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
>>>>> blaze of gunfire.
>>>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
>>>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
>>>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
>>>>> End it now.
>>>>>
>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a niche item
>>>>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Teens in all of the modern western world are exposed to the same sorts
>>>> of media and violent video games but only in the USA do we have the
>>>> large number and frequency of mass shootings. I think the answer lies
>>>> elsewhere.
>>>
>>> “One of the ways Chicago is different is that our social conditions
>>> are not anything like those now in New York City and Los Angeles,”
>>> Jens Ludwig, director of the Crime Lab, told a City Club audience
>>> early this year. “We are not just the most segregated city in America,
>>> but the level of concentrated poverty we have in our neighborhoods is
>>> unlike anything in Los Angeles or New York. You would not find an
>>> Englewood or Garfield Park anywhere in Los Angeles and New York.”
>>>
>>> The dynamics at play, the ones Chicagoans want to understand to end
>>> the bloodshed, are complex. Gang life is a substitute for hope in
>>> isolated neighborhoods. Every shooting invites a retaliatory attack.
>>> In a city of 2.7 million people, a relatively small number of
>>> criminals — perhaps 5,000 to 10,000 thugs and drug dealers — are
>>> driving a large share of the violence. “It’s the same individuals that
>>> continuously commit these crimes,” Chicago Police Department
>>> Superintendent Eddie Johnson said.
>>>
>>> Black lives matter, except to other blacks. This holds true for
>>> Hispanics also.
>>>
>>> More: "We failed as a criminal justice entity in the past. Mr. Johnson
>>> felt invincible from the law; and rightfully so, even after five
>>> felony convictions, one of them for beating and imprisoning a women
>>> for several hours in his house; he never served a single day in
>>> prison. I would request the court take his criminal past into
>>> consideration along with his current monstrosities. It's imperative
>>> that he receive the maximum possible sentence for this aggravated and
>>> atrocious act. That will give some amount of closure to the victims'
>>> families and make up for our past mistakes; if Mr. Johnson was ...
>>> sent to prison on his violent case against women in 2009 or the two
>>> 2012 cases, this violent event would have never taken place and the
>>> victims would still be alive today."
>>>
>>> Let's fire some liberal judges.
>>
>> Nice try at shoveling your racism, Herring, but what is being discussed
>> are the mass shootings being committed by mostly white boys at schools,
>> shopping centers, churches. The black gang-related shootings are
>> horrible, of course, but are manifestations of a different problem.
>
> OK then, tell that to the news people who co-mingle those stats.
> This week they are talking about over a dozen "mass shootings" that
> happened over the weekend and exactly ZERO of them were "white boys"
> shooting up "schools, shopping centers and churches".
> Then look at some of the non-gang shootings.
> In fact Uvalde was an Hispanic kid, Tulsa was a black guy, as was the
> Brooklyn subway shooter. That is just this year.
> The Navy Yard was a black guy and Ft Hood was an Arab.
> "Active shooter" seems to be an equal opportunity crime.
>

Hispanic is white, as is Arab, usually.

--
* Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
> On 6/7/22 12:43 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 11:36:15 -0400, Keyser Söze
>> <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/7/22 10:09 AM, John H wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 09:35:11 -0400, Keyser Söze
>>>> <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/7/22 12:13 AM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
>>>>>> <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
>>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
>>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
>>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
>>>>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
>>>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
>>>>>>> knife?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
>>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
>>>>>> blaze of gunfire.
>>>>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
>>>>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
>>>>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
>>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
>>>>>> End it now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
>>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a niche item
>>>>>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Teens in all of the modern western world are exposed to the same sorts
>>>>> of media and violent video games but only in the USA do we have the
>>>>> large number and frequency of mass shootings. I think the answer lies
>>>>> elsewhere.
>>>>
>>>> “One of the ways Chicago is different is that our social conditions
>>>> are not anything like those now in New York City and Los Angeles,”
>>>> Jens Ludwig, director of the Crime Lab, told a City Club audience
>>>> early this year. “We are not just the most segregated city in America,
>>>> but the level of concentrated poverty we have in our neighborhoods is
>>>> unlike anything in Los Angeles or New York. You would not find an
>>>> Englewood or Garfield Park anywhere in Los Angeles and New York.”
>>>>
>>>> The dynamics at play, the ones Chicagoans want to understand to end
>>>> the bloodshed, are complex. Gang life is a substitute for hope in
>>>> isolated neighborhoods. Every shooting invites a retaliatory attack.
>>>> In a city of 2.7 million people, a relatively small number of
>>>> criminals — perhaps 5,000 to 10,000 thugs and drug dealers — are
>>>> driving a large share of the violence. “It’s the same individuals that
>>>> continuously commit these crimes,” Chicago Police Department
>>>> Superintendent Eddie Johnson said.
>>>>
>>>> Black lives matter, except to other blacks. This holds true for
>>>> Hispanics also.
>>>>
>>>> More: "We failed as a criminal justice entity in the past. Mr. Johnson
>>>> felt invincible from the law; and rightfully so, even after five
>>>> felony convictions, one of them for beating and imprisoning a women
>>>> for several hours in his house; he never served a single day in
>>>> prison. I would request the court take his criminal past into
>>>> consideration along with his current monstrosities. It's imperative
>>>> that he receive the maximum possible sentence for this aggravated and
>>>> atrocious act. That will give some amount of closure to the victims'
>>>> families and make up for our past mistakes; if Mr. Johnson was ...
>>>> sent to prison on his violent case against women in 2009 or the two
>>>> 2012 cases, this violent event would have never taken place and the
>>>> victims would still be alive today."
>>>>
>>>> Let's fire some liberal judges.
>>>
>>> Nice try at shoveling your racism, Herring, but what is being discussed
>>> are the mass shootings being committed by mostly white boys at schools,
>>> shopping centers, churches. The black gang-related shootings are
>>> horrible, of course, but are manifestations of a different problem.
>>
>> OK then, tell that to the news people who co-mingle those stats.
>> This week they are talking about over a dozen "mass shootings" that
>> happened over the weekend and exactly ZERO of them were "white boys"
>> shooting up "schools, shopping centers and churches".
>> Then look at some of the non-gang shootings.
>> In fact Uvalde was an Hispanic kid, Tulsa was a black guy, as was the
>> Brooklyn subway shooter. That is just this year.
>> The Navy Yard was a black guy and Ft Hood was an Arab.
>> "Active shooter" seems to be an equal opportunity crime.
>>
>
> Hispanic is white, as is Arab, usually.
>

Not in our society.

On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 13:08:21 -0400, Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:

>On 6/7/22 12:43 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 11:36:15 -0400, Keyser Söze
>> <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/7/22 10:09 AM, John H wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 09:35:11 -0400, Keyser Söze
>>>> <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/7/22 12:13 AM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
>>>>>> <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
>>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
>>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
>>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
>>>>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
>>>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
>>>>>>> knife?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
>>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
>>>>>> blaze of gunfire.
>>>>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
>>>>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
>>>>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
>>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
>>>>>> End it now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
>>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a niche item
>>>>>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Teens in all of the modern western world are exposed to the same sorts
>>>>> of media and violent video games but only in the USA do we have the
>>>>> large number and frequency of mass shootings. I think the answer lies
>>>>> elsewhere.
>>>>
>>>> “One of the ways Chicago is different is that our social conditions
>>>> are not anything like those now in New York City and Los Angeles,”
>>>> Jens Ludwig, director of the Crime Lab, told a City Club audience
>>>> early this year. “We are not just the most segregated city in America,
>>>> but the level of concentrated poverty we have in our neighborhoods is
>>>> unlike anything in Los Angeles or New York. You would not find an
>>>> Englewood or Garfield Park anywhere in Los Angeles and New York.”
>>>>
>>>> The dynamics at play, the ones Chicagoans want to understand to end
>>>> the bloodshed, are complex. Gang life is a substitute for hope in
>>>> isolated neighborhoods. Every shooting invites a retaliatory attack.
>>>> In a city of 2.7 million people, a relatively small number of
>>>> criminals — perhaps 5,000 to 10,000 thugs and drug dealers — are
>>>> driving a large share of the violence. “It’s the same individuals that
>>>> continuously commit these crimes,” Chicago Police Department
>>>> Superintendent Eddie Johnson said.
>>>>
>>>> Black lives matter, except to other blacks. This holds true for
>>>> Hispanics also.
>>>>
>>>> More: "We failed as a criminal justice entity in the past. Mr. Johnson
>>>> felt invincible from the law; and rightfully so, even after five
>>>> felony convictions, one of them for beating and imprisoning a women
>>>> for several hours in his house; he never served a single day in
>>>> prison. I would request the court take his criminal past into
>>>> consideration along with his current monstrosities. It's imperative
>>>> that he receive the maximum possible sentence for this aggravated and
>>>> atrocious act. That will give some amount of closure to the victims'
>>>> families and make up for our past mistakes; if Mr. Johnson was ...
>>>> sent to prison on his violent case against women in 2009 or the two
>>>> 2012 cases, this violent event would have never taken place and the
>>>> victims would still be alive today."
>>>>
>>>> Let's fire some liberal judges.
>>>
>>> Nice try at shoveling your racism, Herring, but what is being discussed
>>> are the mass shootings being committed by mostly white boys at schools,
>>> shopping centers, churches. The black gang-related shootings are
>>> horrible, of course, but are manifestations of a different problem.
>>
>> OK then, tell that to the news people who co-mingle those stats.
>> This week they are talking about over a dozen "mass shootings" that
>> happened over the weekend and exactly ZERO of them were "white boys"
>> shooting up "schools, shopping centers and churches".
>> Then look at some of the non-gang shootings.
>> In fact Uvalde was an Hispanic kid, Tulsa was a black guy, as was the
>> Brooklyn subway shooter. That is just this year.
>> The Navy Yard was a black guy and Ft Hood was an Arab.
>> "Active shooter" seems to be an equal opportunity crime.
>>
>
>Hispanic is white, as is Arab, usually.

It depends on which "diversity" ticket you are punching.