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 by: Bill - Thu, 9 Jun 2022 23:50 UTC

Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
> On 6/9/22 12:20 PM, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 9:11:39 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:
>>> On 6/9/22 8:35 AM, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 7:55:31 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:
>>>>> On 6/8/22 2:36 PM, Bill wrote:
>>>>>> <gfre...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
>>>>>>>>>>> <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
>>>>>>>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
>>>>>>>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
>>>>>>>>>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
>>>>>>>>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
>>>>>>>>>>>> knife?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
>>>>>>>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
>>>>>>>>>>> blaze of gunfire.
>>>>>>>>>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
>>>>>>>>>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
>>>>>>>>>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
>>>>>>>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
>>>>>>>>>>> End it now.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
>>>>>>>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a '
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50
>>>>>>>>>> years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach
>>>>>>>>> to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand
>>>>>>>>> in the army and marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs
>>>>>>>>> but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually
>>>>>>>>> handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,
>>>>>>>>> since they became cops and not life savers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item
>>>>>>>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks
>>>>>>>> who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of
>>>>>>>> them. And many of them are buying them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of
>>>>>>> the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military
>>>>>>> capacity?
>>>>>>> Very few of them ever actually served in combat.
>>>>>>> I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly"
>>>>>>> guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is
>>>>>>> usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or
>>>>>>> two but they are not scary looking ones.
>>>>>>> Even my M1A is a traditional walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is
>>>>>>> usually on ban lists.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually a lot of western hunters like the AR platform. Can buy great
>>>>>> barrels, and the recoil reduction is loved. We shoot longer distance in
>>>>>> the west than the Midwest and East.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Hunting with an AR is an admission that you are a lousy shot and need
>>>>> lots of ammo loaded up to hit and kill those groundhogs, prairie dogs,
>>>>> and bunnies.
>>>>
>>>> Making that statement is an admission that *you* are such a lousy shot
>>>> that you can't hit the broad side of a barn. An AR can be a very
>>>> accurate rifle, and when used for hunting is normally fitted with a small magazine.
>>>>
>>>> You shouldn't project your own inadequacies on everyone else. Eh?
>>> I've owned several AR style rifles that I used for target shooting. I'm
>>> an accurate enough shooter but within limits, accuracy depends more on
>>> the shooter than the platform. Hey, you need 30 rounds to nail that
>>> critter, right?
>>
>> I have several 10 round magazines. You do know they are interchangeable, right?
>>
>> The shooter can't be more accurate than his platform. Maybe you didn't
>> live up to yours, hence the thinking that you need 30 rounds?
>
> Actually, a good shooter can compensate to some degree for an inaccurate
> platform, JackOff.
>

Not if it is not a consistent inaccurate. My dad had a Colt Woodsman.
Even bench rest it did about a 2’ pattern.

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John H <jherring@cox.net> Wrote in message:r
> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 07:55:29 -0400, Keyser Söze<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:>On 6/8/22 2:36 PM, Bill wrote:>> <gfretwell@aol.com> wrote:>>> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill>>>>>>> <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems>>>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself>>>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.>>>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some>>>>>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently>>>>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the>>>>>>>> knife?>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They>>>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any atten
tion is to go out in a>>>>>>> blaze of gunfire.>>>>>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video>>>>>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there>>>>>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they>>>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.>>>>>>> End it now.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the>>>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a '>>>>>>>>>>>>> And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50>>>>>> years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach>>>>> to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand>>>>> in the army and marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs>>>>> but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually>>>>> handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,>>>>> since they became cops and not life savers.>>>>>>>> Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item>>>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks>>>> who went to Kuwai
t, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of>>>> them. And many of them are buying them.>>>>>> I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of>>> the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military>>> capacity?>>> Very few of them ever actually served in combat.>>> I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly">>> guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is>>> usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or>>> two but they are not scary looking ones.>>> Even my M1A is a traditional walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is>>> usually on ban lists.>>>>> >> Actually a lot of western hunters like the AR platform. Can buy great>> barrels, and the recoil reduction is loved. We shoot longer distance in>> the west than the Midwest and East.>> >>Hunting with an AR is an admission that you are a lousy shot and need >lots of ammo loaded up to hit and kill those groundhogs, prairie dogs, >and bunnies.Why?

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Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> Wrote in message:r
> On 6/9/22 12:20 PM, 345...@gmail.com wrote:> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 9:11:39 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:>> On 6/9/22 8:35 AM, 345...@gmail.com wrote:>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 7:55:31 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:>>>> On 6/8/22 2:36 PM, Bill wrote:>>>>> <gfre...@aol.com> wrote:>>>>>> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill>>>>>>>>>> <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems>>>>>>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself>>>>>>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.>>>>>>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some>>>>>>>>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently>>>>>>>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started stabbing do
ctors and nurses. Blame the>>>>>>>>>>> knife?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They>>>>>>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a>>>>>>>>>> blaze of gunfire.>>>>>>>>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video>>>>>>>>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there>>>>>>>>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they>>>>>>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.>>>>>>>>>> End it now.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the>>>>>>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a '>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50>>>>>>>>> years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach>>>>>>>> to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand>>>>>>>> in the army and marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs>>>>>>>> but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually>>>>>>>> handling any s
mall arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,>>>>>>>> since they became cops and not life savers.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item>>>>>>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks>>>>>>> who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of>>>>>>> them. And many of them are buying them.>>>>>>>>>>>> I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of>>>>>> the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military>>>>>> capacity?>>>>>> Very few of them ever actually served in combat.>>>>>> I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly">>>>>> guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is>>>>>> usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or>>>>>> two but they are not scary looking ones.>>>>>> Even my M1A is a traditional walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is>>>>>> usually on ban lists.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually a lot of western hunters like the AR platform. Can buy great>>>>> barrels, and the recoil reduction is loved. We shoot longer distance in>>>>> the west than the Midwest and East.>>>>>>>>> Hunting with an
AR is an admission that you are a lousy shot and need>>>> lots of ammo loaded up to hit and kill those groundhogs, prairie dogs,>>>> and bunnies.>>>>>> Making that statement is an admission that *you* are such a lousy shot that you can't hit the broad side of a barn. An AR can be a very accurate rifle, and when used for hunting is normally fitted with a small magazine.>>>>>> You shouldn't project your own inadequacies on everyone else. Eh?>> I've owned several AR style rifles that I used for target shooting. I'm>> an accurate enough shooter but within limits, accuracy depends more on>> the shooter than the platform. Hey, you need 30 rounds to nail that>> critter, right?> > I have several 10 round magazines. You do know they are interchangeable, right?> > The shooter can't be more accurate than his platform. Maybe you didn't live up to yours, hence the thinking that you need 30 rounds?Actually, a good shooter can compensate to some degree for an inaccurate platform, JackOff.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

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On Thursday, 9 June 2022 at 21:05:48 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
> John H <jher...@cox.net> Wrote in message:r
> > On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 07:55:29 -0400, Keyser Söze<KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:>On 6/8/22 2:36 PM, Bill wrote:>> <gfre...@aol.com> wrote:>>> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill>>>>>>> <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems>>>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself>>>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.>>>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some>>>>>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently>>>>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the>>>>>>>> knife?>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They>>>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a>>>>>>> blaze of gunfire.>>>>>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video>>>>>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there>>>>>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they>>>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.>>>>>>> End it now.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the>>>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a '>>>>>>>>>>>>> And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50>>>>>> years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach>>>>> to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand>>>>> in the army and marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs>>>>> but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually>>>>> handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,>>>>> since they became cops and not life savers.>>>>>>>> Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item>>>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks>>>> who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of>>>> them. And many of them are buying them.>>>>>> I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of>>> the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military>>> capacity?>>> Very few of them ever actually served in combat.>>> I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly">>> guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is>>> usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or>>> two but they are not scary looking ones.>>> Even my M1A is a traditional walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is>>> usually on ban lists.>>>>> >> Actually a lot of western hunters like the AR platform. Can buy great>> barrels, and the recoil reduction is loved. We shoot longer distance in>> the west than the Midwest and East.>> >>Hunting with an AR is an admission that you are a lousy shot and need >lots of ammo loaded up to hit and kill those groundhogs, prairie dogs, >and bunnies.Why?
> Don't hold your breath waiting for a cleaver comback. He lost that
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Say what?
Just exactly what is a "cleaver comback"?
Y'all southern boys sure do talk funny.

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On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 10:07:35 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
> On Thursday, 9 June 2022 at 21:05:48 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
> > John H <jher...@cox.net> Wrote in message:r
> > > On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 07:55:29 -0400, Keyser Söze<KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:>On 6/8/22 2:36 PM, Bill wrote:>> <gfre...@aol.com> wrote:>>> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill>>>>>>> <califbill9....@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems>>>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself>>>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.>>>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some>>>>>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently>>>>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the>>>>>>>> knife?>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They>>>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a>>>>>>> blaze of gunfire.>>>>>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video>>>>>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there>>>>>>> is no future anyway.. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they>>>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.>>>>>>> End it now.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the>>>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a '>>>>>>>>>>>>> And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50>>>>>> years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach>>>>> to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand>>>>> in the army and marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs>>>>> but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually>>>>> handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,>>>>> since they became cops and not life savers..>>>>>>>> Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item>>>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks>>>> who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of>>>> them. And many of them are buying them.>>>>>> I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of>>> the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military>>> capacity?>>> Very few of them ever actually served in combat.>>> I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly">>> guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is>>> usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or>>> two but they are not scary looking ones.>>> Even my M1A is a traditional walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is>>> usually on ban lists.>>>>> >> Actually a lot of western hunters like the AR platform. Can buy great>> barrels, and the recoil reduction is loved. We shoot longer distance in>> the west than the Midwest and East.>> >>Hunting with an AR is an admission that you are a lousy shot and need >lots of ammo loaded up to hit and kill those groundhogs, prairie dogs, >and bunnies.Why?
> > Don't hold your breath waiting for a cleaver comback. He lost that
> > capability long ago.

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> Just exactly what is a "cleaver comback"?
> Y'all southern boys sure do talk funny.

==
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 by: Bill - Fri, 10 Jun 2022 03:32 UTC

True North <princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, 9 June 2022 at 21:05:48 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
>> John H <jher...@cox.net> Wrote in message:r
>>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 07:55:29 -0400, Keyser
>>> Söze<KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:>On 6/8/22 2:36 PM, Bill wrote:>>
>>> <gfre...@aol.com> wrote:>>> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H
>>> <jher...@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400,
>>> gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H
>>> <jher...@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400,
>>> gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000
>>> (UTC), Bill>>>>>>> <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides?
>>> Seems>>>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by
>>> cop or do yourself>>>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple
>>> had a podcast on teen suicide.>>>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain
>>> cultures in this country every weekend in some>>>>>>>> cities? Blaming
>>> guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently>>>>>>>> walked
>>> in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the>>>>>>>>
>>> knife?>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless
>>> some teens feel. They>>>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any
>>> attention is to go out in a>>>>>>> blaze of gunfire.>>>>>>> We have
>>> desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video>>>>>>> games
>>> and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there>>>>>>>
>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and
>>> they>>>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.>>>>>>>
>>> End it now.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those
>>> folks in media and the>>>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they
>>> would still be a '>>>>>>>>>>>>> And anyone who'd been associated with
>>> the military in the past 50>>>>>> years. That's a hell of a lot of
>>> folks.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most military folks came away with a "Been there
>>> done that" approach>>>>> to weapons if they were actually exposed to
>>> them at all. I understand>>>>> in the army and marines your weapon is
>>> your companion for most MOSs>>>>> but in the air force, navy or coast
>>> guard, few people are actually>>>>> handling any small arms. The CG is
>>> a bit different these days tho,>>>>> since they became cops and not
>>> life savers.>>>>>>>> Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item>>>>
>>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those
>>> folks>>>> who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy
>>> knowledge of>>>> them. And many of them are buying them.>>>>>> I bet,
>>> not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of>>> the
>>> American public. What percentage of adults served in any military>>>
>>> capacity?>>> Very few of them ever actually served in combat.>>> I know
>>> lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly">>> guns.
>>> They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is>>>
>>> usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle
>>> or>>> two but they are not scary looking ones.>>> Even my M1A is a
>>> traditional walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is>>> usually on ban
>>> lists.>>>>> >> Actually a lot of western hunters like the AR platform.
>>> Can buy great>> barrels, and the recoil reduction is loved. We shoot
>>> longer distance in>> the west than the Midwest and East.>> >>Hunting
>>> with an AR is an admission that you are a lousy shot and need >lots of
>>> ammo loaded up to hit and kill those groundhogs, prairie dogs, >and bunnies.Why?
>> Don't hold your breath waiting for a cleaver comback. He lost that
>> capability long ago.
>> --
>> lets go Brandon...
>>
>>
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>
>
> Say what?
> Just exactly what is a "cleaver comback"?
> Y'all southern boys sure do talk funny.
>

For a eastern Canadian, you sure like to talk like a supposed southern USA
person. A clever comeback is something beyond your ability.

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On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 05:35:38 -0700 (PDT), "345...@gmail.com"
<3452471@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 7:55:31 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:
>> On 6/8/22 2:36 PM, Bill wrote:
>> > <gfre...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
>> >>>>>> <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
>> >>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
>> >>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
>> >>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
>> >>>>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
>> >>>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
>> >>>>>>> knife?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
>> >>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
>> >>>>>> blaze of gunfire.
>> >>>>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
>> >>>>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
>> >>>>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
>> >>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
>> >>>>>> End it now.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
>> >>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a '
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50
>> >>>>> years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach
>> >>>> to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand
>> >>>> in the army and marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs
>> >>>> but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually
>> >>>> handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,
>> >>>> since they became cops and not life savers.
>> >>>
>> >>> Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item
>> >>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks
>> >>> who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of
>> >>> them. And many of them are buying them.
>> >>
>> >> I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of
>> >> the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military
>> >> capacity?
>> >> Very few of them ever actually served in combat.
>> >> I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly"
>> >> guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is
>> >> usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or
>> >> two but they are not scary looking ones.
>> >> Even my M1A is a traditional walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is
>> >> usually on ban lists.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Actually a lot of western hunters like the AR platform. Can buy great
>> > barrels, and the recoil reduction is loved. We shoot longer distance in
>> > the west than the Midwest and East.
>> >
>> Hunting with an AR is an admission that you are a lousy shot and need
>> lots of ammo loaded up to hit and kill those groundhogs, prairie dogs,
>> and bunnies.
>
>Making that statement is an admission that *you* are such a lousy shot that you can't hit the broad side of a barn. An AR can be a very accurate rifle, and when used for hunting is normally fitted with a small magazine.
>
>You shouldn't project your own inadequacies on everyone else. Eh?

If you are hunting anything except varmints you can't use a big
magazine. I have a 4 shot for my M1A in case I ever did decide to go
assassinate a deer ;)

I think you can use anything you want on hogs tho. I doubt I would
drag a .308 out there for that. A shotgun with slugs is plenty.

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 by: gfretw...@aol.com - Fri, 10 Jun 2022 06:34 UTC

On Thu, 09 Jun 2022 18:04:40 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 13:52:22 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
>>>>>><califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
>>>>>>>as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
>>>>>>>after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
>>>>>>>Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
>>>>>>>cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
>>>>>>>walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
>>>>>>>knife?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
>>>>>>think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
>>>>>>blaze of gunfire.
>>>>>>We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
>>>>>>games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
>>>>>>is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
>>>>>>don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
>>>>>>End it now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
>>>>>>movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a '
>>>>>>
>>>>>And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50
>>>>>years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach
>>>>to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand
>>>>in the army and marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs
>>>>but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually
>>>>handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,
>>>>since they became cops and not life savers.
>>>
>>>Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item
>>>only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks
>>>who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of
>>>them. And many of them are buying them.
>>
>>I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of
>>the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military
>>capacity?
>>Very few of them ever actually served in combat.
>>I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly"
>>guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is
>>usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or
>>two but they are not scary looking ones.
>>Even my M1A is a traditional walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is
>>usually on ban lists.
>
>Regardless. They are much more than a 'niche item'. With about 20
>million out there,

That is certainly true now. I was talking about the 80s when a couple
of California legislators started making noise about a non-existent
problem and got the whole thing on the front page. At that time they
were a niche item with very little visibility to the regular
sportsman. Once Boxer and Feinstein started talking about bans, people
did what Americans do when they hear something might not be available,
they bought them.
At that time I doubt anyone would have called an AR a sporting rifle
but once people had them, they adapted.

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 by: True North - Fri, 10 Jun 2022 14:34 UTC

On Friday, 10 June 2022 at 00:20:16 UTC-3, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 10:07:35 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
> > On Thursday, 9 June 2022 at 21:05:48 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
> > > John H <jher...@cox.net> Wrote in message:r
> > > > On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 07:55:29 -0400, Keyser Söze<KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:>On 6/8/22 2:36 PM, Bill wrote:>> <gfre...@aol.com> wrote:>>> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jher...@cox..net> wrote:>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill>>>>>>> <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems>>>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself>>>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.>>>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some>>>>>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently>>>>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the>>>>>>>> knife?>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They>>>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a>>>>>>> blaze of gunfire.>>>>>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video>>>>>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there>>>>>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they>>>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.>>>>>>> End it now.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the>>>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a '>>>>>>>>>>>>> And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50>>>>>> years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach>>>>> to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand>>>>> in the army and marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs>>>>> but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually>>>>> handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,>>>>> since they became cops and not life savers.>>>>>>>> Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item>>>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks>>>> who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of>>>> them. And many of them are buying them.>>>>>> I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of>>> the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military>>> capacity?>>> Very few of them ever actually served in combat.>>> I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly">>> guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is>>> usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or>>> two but they are not scary looking ones.>>> Even my M1A is a traditional walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is>>> usually on ban lists.>>>>> >> Actually a lot of western hunters like the AR platform. Can buy great>> barrels, and the recoil reduction is loved. We shoot longer distance in>> the west than the Midwest and East.>> >>Hunting with an AR is an admission that you are a lousy shot and need >lots of ammo loaded up to hit and kill those groundhogs, prairie dogs, >and bunnies.Why?
> > > Don't hold your breath waiting for a cleaver comback. He lost that
> > > capability long ago.
>
>
> > >
> > > ----Android NewsGroup Reader----
> > > https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html
> > Say what?
> > Just exactly what is a "cleaver comback"?
> > Y'all southern boys sure do talk funny.
> ===
>
> A cleaver is something used to make a cutting remark, which may also be clever, or not.

Very good...but in Justins' case I think he just has problems with the Queens' English.

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 by: 345...@gmail.com - Fri, 10 Jun 2022 15:47 UTC

On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 7:00:22 PM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:
> On 6/9/22 12:20 PM, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 9:11:39 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:
> >> On 6/9/22 8:35 AM, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 7:55:31 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:
> >>>> On 6/8/22 2:36 PM, Bill wrote:
> >>>>> <gfre...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
> >>>>>>>>>> <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
> >>>>>>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
> >>>>>>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
> >>>>>>>>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
> >>>>>>>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
> >>>>>>>>>>> knife?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
> >>>>>>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
> >>>>>>>>>> blaze of gunfire.
> >>>>>>>>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
> >>>>>>>>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
> >>>>>>>>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
> >>>>>>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
> >>>>>>>>>> End it now.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
> >>>>>>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a '
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50
> >>>>>>>>> years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach
> >>>>>>>> to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand
> >>>>>>>> in the army and marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs
> >>>>>>>> but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually
> >>>>>>>> handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,
> >>>>>>>> since they became cops and not life savers.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item
> >>>>>>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks
> >>>>>>> who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of
> >>>>>>> them. And many of them are buying them.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of
> >>>>>> the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military
> >>>>>> capacity?
> >>>>>> Very few of them ever actually served in combat.
> >>>>>> I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly"
> >>>>>> guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is
> >>>>>> usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or
> >>>>>> two but they are not scary looking ones.
> >>>>>> Even my M1A is a traditional walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is
> >>>>>> usually on ban lists.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Actually a lot of western hunters like the AR platform. Can buy great
> >>>>> barrels, and the recoil reduction is loved. We shoot longer distance in
> >>>>> the west than the Midwest and East.
> >>>>>
> >>>> Hunting with an AR is an admission that you are a lousy shot and need
> >>>> lots of ammo loaded up to hit and kill those groundhogs, prairie dogs,
> >>>> and bunnies.
> >>>
> >>> Making that statement is an admission that *you* are such a lousy shot that you can't hit the broad side of a barn. An AR can be a very accurate rifle, and when used for hunting is normally fitted with a small magazine.
> >>>
> >>> You shouldn't project your own inadequacies on everyone else. Eh?
> >> I've owned several AR style rifles that I used for target shooting. I'm
> >> an accurate enough shooter but within limits, accuracy depends more on
> >> the shooter than the platform. Hey, you need 30 rounds to nail that
> >> critter, right?
> >
> > I have several 10 round magazines. You do know they are interchangeable, right?
> >
> > The shooter can't be more accurate than his platform. Maybe you didn't live up to yours, hence the thinking that you need 30 rounds?
> Actually, a good shooter can compensate to some degree for an inaccurate
> platform, JackOff.

How would you know, Fat Harold? You can't even compensate your payday lenders for the loans you fraudulently get.

You *are* compensating for your own shortcomings by living a lie on the internet. That's something, I suppose. BTW, your CPAP needs cleaning.

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On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 11:32:34 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
> True North <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday, 9 June 2022 at 21:05:48 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
> >> John H <jher...@cox.net> Wrote in message:r
> >>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 07:55:29 -0400, Keyser
> >>> Söze<KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:>On 6/8/22 2:36 PM, Bill wrote:>>
> >>> <gfre...@aol.com> wrote:>>> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H
> >>> <jher...@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400,
> >>> gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H
> >>> <jher...@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400,
> >>> gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000
> >>> (UTC), Bill>>>>>>> <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides?
> >>> Seems>>>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by
> >>> cop or do yourself>>>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple
> >>> had a podcast on teen suicide.>>>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain
> >>> cultures in this country every weekend in some>>>>>>>> cities? Blaming
> >>> guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently>>>>>>>> walked
> >>> in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the>>>>>>>>
> >>> knife?>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless
> >>> some teens feel. They>>>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any
> >>> attention is to go out in a>>>>>>> blaze of gunfire.>>>>>>> We have
> >>> desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video>>>>>>> games
> >>> and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there>>>>>>>
> >>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and
> >>> they>>>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.>>>>>>>
> >>> End it now.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those
> >>> folks in media and the>>>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they
> >>> would still be a '>>>>>>>>>>>>> And anyone who'd been associated with
> >>> the military in the past 50>>>>>> years. That's a hell of a lot of
> >>> folks.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most military folks came away with a "Been there
> >>> done that" approach>>>>> to weapons if they were actually exposed to
> >>> them at all. I understand>>>>> in the army and marines your weapon is
> >>> your companion for most MOSs>>>>> but in the air force, navy or coast
> >>> guard, few people are actually>>>>> handling any small arms. The CG is
> >>> a bit different these days tho,>>>>> since they became cops and not
> >>> life savers.>>>>>>>> Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item>>>>
> >>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those
> >>> folks>>>> who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy
> >>> knowledge of>>>> them. And many of them are buying them.>>>>>> I bet,
> >>> not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of>>> the
> >>> American public. What percentage of adults served in any military>>>
> >>> capacity?>>> Very few of them ever actually served in combat.>>> I know
> >>> lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly">>> guns.
> >>> They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is>>>
> >>> usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle
> >>> or>>> two but they are not scary looking ones.>>> Even my M1A is a
> >>> traditional walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is>>> usually on ban
> >>> lists.>>>>> >> Actually a lot of western hunters like the AR platform..
> >>> Can buy great>> barrels, and the recoil reduction is loved. We shoot
> >>> longer distance in>> the west than the Midwest and East.>> >>Hunting
> >>> with an AR is an admission that you are a lousy shot and need >lots of
> >>> ammo loaded up to hit and kill those groundhogs, prairie dogs, >and bunnies.Why?
> >> Don't hold your breath waiting for a cleaver comback. He lost that
> >> capability long ago.
> >> --
> >> lets go Brandon...
> >>
> >>
> >> ----Android NewsGroup Reader----
> >> https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html
> >
> >
> > Say what?
> > Just exactly what is a "cleaver comback"?
> > Y'all southern boys sure do talk funny.
> >
> For a eastern Canadian, you sure like to talk like a supposed southern USA
> person. A clever comeback is something beyond your ability.

He tries to talk Southern, but does a poor job at it. He misuses "y'all". If Donnie actually came down South to this area and talked like that, the local Southern boys would quickly dispatch his dumb ass back to kanaduh as fast as his short little bow legs could carry him.
:)

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On Friday, 10 June 2022 at 13:10:02 UTC-3, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 11:32:34 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
> > True North <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Thursday, 9 June 2022 at 21:05:48 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
> > >> John H <jher...@cox.net> Wrote in message:r
> > >>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 07:55:29 -0400, Keyser
> > >>> Söze<KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:>On 6/8/22 2:36 PM, Bill wrote:>>
> > >>> <gfre...@aol.com> wrote:>>> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H
> > >>> <jher...@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400,
> > >>> gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H
> > >>> <jher...@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400,
> > >>> gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000
> > >>> (UTC), Bill>>>>>>> <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides?
> > >>> Seems>>>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by
> > >>> cop or do yourself>>>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple
> > >>> had a podcast on teen suicide.>>>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain
> > >>> cultures in this country every weekend in some>>>>>>>> cities? Blaming
> > >>> guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently>>>>>>>> walked
> > >>> in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the>>>>>>>>
> > >>> knife?>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless
> > >>> some teens feel. They>>>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any
> > >>> attention is to go out in a>>>>>>> blaze of gunfire.>>>>>>> We have
> > >>> desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video>>>>>>> games
> > >>> and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there>>>>>>>
> > >>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and
> > >>> they>>>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.>>>>>>>
> > >>> End it now.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those
> > >>> folks in media and the>>>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they
> > >>> would still be a '>>>>>>>>>>>>> And anyone who'd been associated with
> > >>> the military in the past 50>>>>>> years. That's a hell of a lot of
> > >>> folks.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most military folks came away with a "Been there
> > >>> done that" approach>>>>> to weapons if they were actually exposed to
> > >>> them at all. I understand>>>>> in the army and marines your weapon is
> > >>> your companion for most MOSs>>>>> but in the air force, navy or coast
> > >>> guard, few people are actually>>>>> handling any small arms. The CG is
> > >>> a bit different these days tho,>>>>> since they became cops and not
> > >>> life savers.>>>>>>>> Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item>>>>
> > >>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those
> > >>> folks>>>> who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy
> > >>> knowledge of>>>> them. And many of them are buying them.>>>>>> I bet,
> > >>> not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of>>> the
> > >>> American public. What percentage of adults served in any military>>>
> > >>> capacity?>>> Very few of them ever actually served in combat.>>> I know
> > >>> lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly">>> guns..
> > >>> They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is>>>
> > >>> usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle
> > >>> or>>> two but they are not scary looking ones.>>> Even my M1A is a
> > >>> traditional walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is>>> usually on ban
> > >>> lists.>>>>> >> Actually a lot of western hunters like the AR platform.
> > >>> Can buy great>> barrels, and the recoil reduction is loved. We shoot
> > >>> longer distance in>> the west than the Midwest and East.>> >>Hunting
> > >>> with an AR is an admission that you are a lousy shot and need >lots of
> > >>> ammo loaded up to hit and kill those groundhogs, prairie dogs, >and bunnies.Why?
> > >> Don't hold your breath waiting for a cleaver comback. He lost that
> > >> capability long ago.
> > >> --
> > >> lets go Brandon...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----Android NewsGroup Reader----
> > >> https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html
> > >
> > >
> > > Say what?
> > > Just exactly what is a "cleaver comback"?
> > > Y'all southern boys sure do talk funny.
> > >
> > For a eastern Canadian, you sure like to talk like a supposed southern USA
> > person. A clever comeback is something beyond your ability.
> He tries to talk Southern, but does a poor job at it. He misuses "y'all". If Donnie actually came down South to this area and talked like that, the local Southern boys would quickly dispatch his dumb ass back to kanaduh as fast as his short little bow legs could carry him.
> :)

No I don't, JackOff.
"Y'all" is singular and "all y'all" is plural.
For all y'all southern boys.......that means whether I'm talking to one of y'all or to a passel of all y'all.
Got it!

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On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 07:34:26 -0700 (PDT), True North
<princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, 10 June 2022 at 00:20:16 UTC-3, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 10:07:35 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
>> > On Thursday, 9 June 2022 at 21:05:48 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
>> > > John H <jher...@cox.net> Wrote in message:r
>> > > > On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 07:55:29 -0400, Keyser Söze<KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:>On 6/8/22 2:36 PM, Bill wrote:>> <gfre...@aol.com> wrote:>>> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill>>>>>>> <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems>>>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself>>>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.>>>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some>>>>>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently>>>>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started
>stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the>>>>>>>> knife?>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They>>>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a>>>>>>> blaze of gunfire.>>>>>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video>>>>>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there>>>>>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they>>>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.>>>>>>> End it now.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the>>>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a '>>>>>>>>>>>>> And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50>>>>>> years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach>>>>> to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand>>>>> in the army and
>marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs>>>>> but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually>>>>> handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,>>>>> since they became cops and not life savers.>>>>>>>> Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item>>>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks>>>> who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of>>>> them. And many of them are buying them.>>>>>> I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of>>> the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military>>> capacity?>>> Very few of them ever actually served in combat.>>> I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly">>> guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is>>> usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or>>> two but they are not scary looking ones.>>> Even my M1A is a traditional
>walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is>>> usually on ban lists.>>>>> >> Actually a lot of western hunters like the AR platform. Can buy great>> barrels, and the recoil reduction is loved. We shoot longer distance in>> the west than the Midwest and East.>> >>Hunting with an AR is an admission that you are a lousy shot and need >lots of ammo loaded up to hit and kill those groundhogs, prairie dogs, >and bunnies.Why?
>> > > Don't hold your breath waiting for a cleaver comback. He lost that
>> > > capability long ago.
>>
>>
>> > >
>> > > ----Android NewsGroup Reader----
>> > > https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html
>> > Say what?
>> > Just exactly what is a "cleaver comback"?
>> > Y'all southern boys sure do talk funny.
>> ===
>>
>> A cleaver is something used to make a cutting remark, which may also be clever, or not.
>
>Very good...but in Justins' case I think he just has problems with the Queens' English.

Punctuate much, dumb shit? Or do you have multiple queens now?

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On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 07:34:26 -0700 (PDT), True North
<princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, 10 June 2022 at 00:20:16 UTC-3, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 10:07:35 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
>> > On Thursday, 9 June 2022 at 21:05:48 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
>> > > John H <jher...@cox.net> Wrote in message:r
>> > > > On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 07:55:29 -0400, Keyser Söze<KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:>On 6/8/22 2:36 PM, Bill wrote:>> <gfre...@aol.com> wrote:>>> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill>>>>>>> <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems>>>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself>>>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.>>>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some>>>>>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently>>>>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started
>stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the>>>>>>>> knife?>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They>>>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a>>>>>>> blaze of gunfire.>>>>>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video>>>>>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there>>>>>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they>>>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.>>>>>>> End it now.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the>>>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a '>>>>>>>>>>>>> And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50>>>>>> years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach>>>>> to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand>>>>> in the army and
>marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs>>>>> but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually>>>>> handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,>>>>> since they became cops and not life savers.>>>>>>>> Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item>>>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks>>>> who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of>>>> them. And many of them are buying them.>>>>>> I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of>>> the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military>>> capacity?>>> Very few of them ever actually served in combat.>>> I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly">>> guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is>>> usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or>>> two but they are not scary looking ones.>>> Even my M1A is a traditional
>walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is>>> usually on ban lists.>>>>> >> Actually a lot of western hunters like the AR platform. Can buy great>> barrels, and the recoil reduction is loved. We shoot longer distance in>> the west than the Midwest and East.>> >>Hunting with an AR is an admission that you are a lousy shot and need >lots of ammo loaded up to hit and kill those groundhogs, prairie dogs, >and bunnies.Why?
>> > > Don't hold your breath waiting for a cleaver comback. He lost that
>> > > capability long ago.
>>
>>
>> > >
>> > > ----Android NewsGroup Reader----
>> > > https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html
>> > Say what?
>> > Just exactly what is a "cleaver comback"?
>> > Y'all southern boys sure do talk funny.
>> ===
>>
>> A cleaver is something used to make a cutting remark, which may also be clever, or not.
>
>Very good...but in Justins' case I think he just has problems with the Queens' English.

To how many Justinls are you referring, dumb ass?

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On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 02:34:28 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

>On Thu, 09 Jun 2022 18:04:40 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 13:52:22 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
>>>>>>><califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
>>>>>>>>as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
>>>>>>>>after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
>>>>>>>>Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
>>>>>>>>cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
>>>>>>>>walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
>>>>>>>>knife?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
>>>>>>>think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
>>>>>>>blaze of gunfire.
>>>>>>>We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
>>>>>>>games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
>>>>>>>is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
>>>>>>>don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
>>>>>>>End it now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
>>>>>>>movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a '
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50
>>>>>>years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach
>>>>>to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand
>>>>>in the army and marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs
>>>>>but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually
>>>>>handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,
>>>>>since they became cops and not life savers.
>>>>
>>>>Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item
>>>>only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks
>>>>who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of
>>>>them. And many of them are buying them.
>>>
>>>I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of
>>>the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military
>>>capacity?
>>>Very few of them ever actually served in combat.
>>>I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly"
>>>guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is
>>>usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or
>>>two but they are not scary looking ones.
>>>Even my M1A is a traditional walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is
>>>usually on ban lists.
>>
>>Regardless. They are much more than a 'niche item'. With about 20
>>million out there,
>
>That is certainly true now. I was talking about the 80s when a couple
>of California legislators started making noise about a non-existent
>problem and got the whole thing on the front page. At that time they
>were a niche item with very little visibility to the regular
>sportsman. Once Boxer and Feinstein started talking about bans, people
>did what Americans do when they hear something might not be available,
>they bought them.
>At that time I doubt anyone would have called an AR a sporting rifle
>but once people had them, they adapted.

The 80's?

Who would have figured?

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On Friday, June 10, 2022 at 1:33:59 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
> On Friday, 10 June 2022 at 13:10:02 UTC-3, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 11:32:34 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
> > > True North <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, 9 June 2022 at 21:05:48 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
> > > >> John H <jher...@cox.net> Wrote in message:r
> > > >>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 07:55:29 -0400, Keyser
> > > >>> Söze<KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:>On 6/8/22 2:36 PM, Bill wrote:>>
> > > >>> <gfre...@aol.com> wrote:>>> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H
> > > >>> <jher...@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400,
> > > >>> gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H
> > > >>> <jher...@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400,
> > > >>> gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000
> > > >>> (UTC), Bill>>>>>>> <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides?
> > > >>> Seems>>>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by
> > > >>> cop or do yourself>>>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple
> > > >>> had a podcast on teen suicide.>>>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain
> > > >>> cultures in this country every weekend in some>>>>>>>> cities? Blaming
> > > >>> guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently>>>>>>>> walked
> > > >>> in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the>>>>>>>>
> > > >>> knife?>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless
> > > >>> some teens feel. They>>>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any
> > > >>> attention is to go out in a>>>>>>> blaze of gunfire.>>>>>>> We have
> > > >>> desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video>>>>>>> games
> > > >>> and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there>>>>>>>
> > > >>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and
> > > >>> they>>>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.>>>>>>>
> > > >>> End it now.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those
> > > >>> folks in media and the>>>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they
> > > >>> would still be a '>>>>>>>>>>>>> And anyone who'd been associated with
> > > >>> the military in the past 50>>>>>> years. That's a hell of a lot of
> > > >>> folks.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most military folks came away with a "Been there
> > > >>> done that" approach>>>>> to weapons if they were actually exposed to
> > > >>> them at all. I understand>>>>> in the army and marines your weapon is
> > > >>> your companion for most MOSs>>>>> but in the air force, navy or coast
> > > >>> guard, few people are actually>>>>> handling any small arms. The CG is
> > > >>> a bit different these days tho,>>>>> since they became cops and not
> > > >>> life savers.>>>>>>>> Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item>>>>
> > > >>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those
> > > >>> folks>>>> who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy
> > > >>> knowledge of>>>> them. And many of them are buying them.>>>>>> I bet,
> > > >>> not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of>>> the
> > > >>> American public. What percentage of adults served in any military>>>
> > > >>> capacity?>>> Very few of them ever actually served in combat.>>> I know
> > > >>> lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly">>> guns.
> > > >>> They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is>>>
> > > >>> usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle
> > > >>> or>>> two but they are not scary looking ones.>>> Even my M1A is a
> > > >>> traditional walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is>>> usually on ban
> > > >>> lists.>>>>> >> Actually a lot of western hunters like the AR platform.
> > > >>> Can buy great>> barrels, and the recoil reduction is loved. We shoot
> > > >>> longer distance in>> the west than the Midwest and East.>> >>Hunting
> > > >>> with an AR is an admission that you are a lousy shot and need >lots of
> > > >>> ammo loaded up to hit and kill those groundhogs, prairie dogs, >and bunnies.Why?
> > > >> Don't hold your breath waiting for a cleaver comback. He lost that
> > > >> capability long ago.
> > > >> --
> > > >> lets go Brandon...
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ----Android NewsGroup Reader----
> > > >> https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Say what?
> > > > Just exactly what is a "cleaver comback"?
> > > > Y'all southern boys sure do talk funny.
> > > >
> > > For a eastern Canadian, you sure like to talk like a supposed southern USA
> > > person. A clever comeback is something beyond your ability.
> > He tries to talk Southern, but does a poor job at it. He misuses "y'all". If Donnie actually came down South to this area and talked like that, the local Southern boys would quickly dispatch his dumb ass back to kanaduh as fast as his short little bow legs could carry him.
> > :)
> No I don't, JackOff.
> "Y'all" is singular and "all y'all" is plural.
> For all y'all southern boys.......that means whether I'm talking to one of y'all or to a passel of all y'all.
> Got it!

Some parts of the South may use y'all like that, but certainly not this area, and not any of the surrounding areas or states. In fact, the use of "y'all" is on a decline. You know what you've read, or heard. I know what I've lived my entire life.
Got it?
You should stick to what you know... and what is that, exactly? Toilet bowl brushes?
Oh, and you misused "passel" as well.

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On Friday, June 10, 2022 at 2:36:26 PM UTC-4, John H wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 07:34:26 -0700 (PDT), True North
> <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Friday, 10 June 2022 at 00:20:16 UTC-3, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 10:07:35 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
> >> > On Thursday, 9 June 2022 at 21:05:48 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
> >> > > John H <jher...@cox.net> Wrote in message:r
> >> > > > On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 07:55:29 -0400, Keyser Söze<KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:>On 6/8/22 2:36 PM, Bill wrote:>> <gfre....@aol.com> wrote:>>> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill>>>>>>> <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems>>>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself>>>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.>>>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some>>>>>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently>>>>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started
> >stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the>>>>>>>> knife?>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They>>>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a>>>>>>> blaze of gunfire.>>>>>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video>>>>>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there>>>>>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they>>>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.>>>>>>> End it now.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the>>>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a '>>>>>>>>>>>>> And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50>>>>>> years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach>>>>> to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand>>>>> in the army and
> >marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs>>>>> but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually>>>>> handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,>>>>> since they became cops and not life savers.>>>>>>>> Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item>>>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks>>>> who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of>>>> them. And many of them are buying them.>>>>>> I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of>>> the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military>>> capacity?>>> Very few of them ever actually served in combat.>>> I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly">>> guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is>>> usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or>>> two but they are not scary looking ones.>>> Even my M1A is a traditional
> >walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is>>> usually on ban lists.>>>>> >> Actually a lot of western hunters like the AR platform. Can buy great>> barrels, and the recoil reduction is loved. We shoot longer distance in>> the west than the Midwest and East.>> >>Hunting with an AR is an admission that you are a lousy shot and need >lots of ammo loaded up to hit and kill those groundhogs, prairie dogs, >and bunnies.Why?
> >> > > Don't hold your breath waiting for a cleaver comback. He lost that
> >> > > capability long ago.
> >>
> >>
> >> > >
> >> > > ----Android NewsGroup Reader----
> >> > > https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html
> >> > Say what?
> >> > Just exactly what is a "cleaver comback"?
> >> > Y'all southern boys sure do talk funny.
> >> ===
> >>
> >> A cleaver is something used to make a cutting remark, which may also be clever, or not.
> >
> >Very good...but in Justins' case I think he just has problems with the Queens' English.
> To how many Justinls are you referring, dumb ass?

He obviously has a problem with whatever version of English it is that he's trying to use, eh?

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On Friday, 10 June 2022 at 15:35:19 UTC-3, John H wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 07:34:26 -0700 (PDT), True North
> <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, 10 June 2022 at 00:20:16 UTC-3, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 10:07:35 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
> >> > On Thursday, 9 June 2022 at 21:05:48 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
> >> > > John H <jher...@cox.net> Wrote in message:r
> >> > > > On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 07:55:29 -0400, Keyser Söze<KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:>On 6/8/22 2:36 PM, Bill wrote:>> <gfre....@aol.com> wrote:>>> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill>>>>>>> <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems>>>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself>>>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.>>>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some>>>>>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently>>>>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started
> >stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the>>>>>>>> knife?>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They>>>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a>>>>>>> blaze of gunfire.>>>>>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video>>>>>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there>>>>>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they>>>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.>>>>>>> End it now.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the>>>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a '>>>>>>>>>>>>> And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50>>>>>> years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach>>>>> to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand>>>>> in the army and
> >marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs>>>>> but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually>>>>> handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,>>>>> since they became cops and not life savers.>>>>>>>> Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item>>>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks>>>> who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of>>>> them. And many of them are buying them.>>>>>> I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of>>> the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military>>> capacity?>>> Very few of them ever actually served in combat.>>> I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly">>> guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is>>> usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or>>> two but they are not scary looking ones.>>> Even my M1A is a traditional
> >walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is>>> usually on ban lists.>>>>> >> Actually a lot of western hunters like the AR platform. Can buy great>> barrels, and the recoil reduction is loved. We shoot longer distance in>> the west than the Midwest and East.>> >>Hunting with an AR is an admission that you are a lousy shot and need >lots of ammo loaded up to hit and kill those groundhogs, prairie dogs, >and bunnies.Why?
> >> > > Don't hold your breath waiting for a cleaver comback. He lost that
> >> > > capability long ago.
> >>
> >>
> >> > >
> >> > > ----Android NewsGroup Reader----
> >> > > https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html
> >> > Say what?
> >> > Just exactly what is a "cleaver comback"?
> >> > Y'all southern boys sure do talk funny.
> >> ===
> >>
> >> A cleaver is something used to make a cutting remark, which may also be clever, or not.
> >
> >Very good...but in Justins' case I think he just has problems with the Queens' English.
> Punctuate much, dumb shit? Or do you have multiple queens now?

Are y'all that stupid, JohnnyMop?

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True North <princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, 10 June 2022 at 15:35:19 UTC-3, John H wrote:
>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 07:34:26 -0700 (PDT), True North
>> <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, 10 June 2022 at 00:20:16 UTC-3, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 10:07:35 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, 9 June 2022 at 21:05:48 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
>>>>>> John H <jher...@cox.net> Wrote in message:r
>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 07:55:29 -0400, Keyser
>>>>>>> Söze<KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:>On 6/8/22 2:36 PM, Bill wrote:>>
>>>>>>> <gfre...@aol.com> wrote:>>> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H
>>>>>>> <jher...@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400,
>>>>>>> gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H
>>>>>>> <jher...@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400,
>>>>>>> gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47
>>>>>>> -0000 (UTC), Bill>>>>>>> <califbill9...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why
>>>>>>> so many teen suicides? Seems>>>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a
>>>>>>> mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself>>>>>>>> after posting
>>>>>>> on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend
>>>>>>> in some>>>>>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the
>>>>>>> problem. Some guy recently>>>>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started
>>> stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the>>>>>>>> knife?>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It
>>> is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel.
>>> They>>>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to
>>> go out in a>>>>>>> blaze of gunfire.>>>>>>> We have desensitized them
>>> to death and glorified murder with video>>>>>>> games and movies. Then
>>> you have the Al Gore folks telling them there>>>>>>> is no future
>>> anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they>>>>>>> don't
>>> see any job they want to do so what the fuck.>>>>>>> End it
>>> now.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in
>>> media and the>>>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would
>>> still be a '>>>>>>>>>>>>> And anyone who'd been associated with the
>>> military in the past 50>>>>>> years. That's a hell of a lot of
>>> folks.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most military folks came away with a "Been there
>>> done that" approach>>>>> to weapons if they were actually exposed to
>>> them at all. I understand>>>>> in the army and
>>> marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs>>>>> but in the air
>>> force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually>>>>> handling any
>>> small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,>>>>> since they
>>> became cops and not life savers.>>>>>>>> Yes, but they're much more
>>> than a"niche item>>>> only really known to a few collectors and gun
>>> folks." All those folks>>>> who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan
>>> have a healthy knowledge of>>>> them. And many of them are buying
>>> them.>>>>>> I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very
>>> small subset of>>> the American public. What percentage of adults
>>> served in any military>>> capacity?>>> Very few of them ever actually
>>> served in combat.>>> I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no
>>> interest in "ugly">>> guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home
>>> protection but it is>>> usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters
>>> may have a nice rifle or>>> two but they are not scary looking ones.>>>
>>> Even my M1A is a traditional
>>> walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is>>> usually on ban lists.>>>>>
>>> >> Actually a lot of western hunters like the AR platform. Can buy
>>>>> great>> barrels, and the recoil reduction is loved. We shoot longer
>>>>> distance in>> the west than the Midwest and East.>> >>Hunting with an
>>>>> AR is an admission that you are a lousy shot and need >lots of ammo
>>>>> loaded up to hit and kill those groundhogs, prairie dogs, >and bunnies.Why?
>>>>>> Don't hold your breath waiting for a cleaver comback. He lost that
>>>>>> capability long ago.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----Android NewsGroup Reader----
>>>>>> https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html
>>>>> Say what?
>>>>> Just exactly what is a "cleaver comback"?
>>>>> Y'all southern boys sure do talk funny.
>>>> ===
>>>>
>>>> A cleaver is something used to make a cutting remark, which may also be clever, or not.
>>>
>>> Very good...but in Justins' case I think he just has problems with the Queens' English.
>> Punctuate much, dumb shit? Or do you have multiple queens now?
>
>
> Are y'all that stupid, JohnnyMop?
>

Stupid? You are the one who spent his life cleaning toilet bowls. College
degree? Probably not. High school graduate? Maybe. John, drafted,
becomes an officer, advanced college degree. Several jobs including school
teacher.

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True North <princecraft49@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
> On Friday, 10 June 2022 at 15:35:19 UTC-3, John H wrote:> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 07:34:26 -0700 (PDT), True North > <prince...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On Friday, 10 June 2022 at 00:20:16 UTC-3, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: > >> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 10:07:35 PM UTC-4, True North wrote: > >> > On Thursday, 9 June 2022 at 21:05:48 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote: > >> > > John H <jher...@cox.net> Wrote in message:r > >> > > > On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 07:55:29 -0400, Keyser Söze<KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:>On 6/8/22 2:36 PM, Bill wrote:>> <gfre...@aol.com> wrote:>>> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill>>>>>>> <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems>>>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself>>>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on t
een suicide.>>>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some>>>>>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently>>>>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started > >stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the>>>>>>>> knife?>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They>>>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a>>>>>>> blaze of gunfire.>>>>>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video>>>>>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there>>>>>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they>>>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.>>>>>>> End it now.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the>>>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a '>>>>>>>>>>>>> And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50>>>>>> years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach>>>>> to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understan
d>>>>> in the army and > >marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs>>>>> but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually>>>>> handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,>>>>> since they became cops and not life savers.>>>>>>>> Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item>>>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks>>>> who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of>>>> them. And many of them are buying them.>>>>>> I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of>>> the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military>>> capacity?>>> Very few of them ever actually served in combat.>>> I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly">>> guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is>>> usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or>>> two but they are not scary looking ones.>>> Even my M1A is a traditional > >walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is>>> usually on ban lists.>>>>> >> Actually a lot of western hunters like the AR platform. Can buy great>> barrels, and the recoil redu
ction is loved. We shoot longer distance in>> the west than the Midwest and East.>> >>Hunting with an AR is an admission that you are a lousy shot and need >lots of ammo loaded up to hit and kill those groundhogs, prairie dogs, >and bunnies.Why? > >> > > Don't hold your breath waiting for a cleaver comback. He lost that > >> > > capability long ago. > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > > ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- > >> > > https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html > >> > Say what? > >> > Just exactly what is a "cleaver comback"? > >> > Y'all southern boys sure do talk funny. > >> === > >> > >> A cleaver is something used to make a cutting remark, which may also be clever, or not. > > > >Very good...but in Justins' case I think he just has problems with the Queens' English.> Punctuate much, dumb shit? Or do you have multiple queens now?Are y'all that stupid, JohnnyMop?

I think he means to say he talks and acts like a girl and he
wishes that we all would keep him company.
--
lets go Brandon...

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 by: Justan Ohlphart - Fri, 10 Jun 2022 23:16 UTC

"345...@gmail.com" <3452471@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 7:00:22 PM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:> On 6/9/22 12:20 PM, 345...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 9:11:39 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote: > >> On 6/9/22 8:35 AM, 345...@gmail.com wrote: > >>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 7:55:31 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote: > >>>> On 6/8/22 2:36 PM, Bill wrote: > >>>>> <gfre...@aol.com> wrote: > >>>>>> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill > >>>>>>>>>> <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems > >>>>>>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself > >>>>>>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide. > >>>>>>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some > >>>>>>>>>>> c
ities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently > >>>>>>>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the > >>>>>>>>>>> knife? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They > >>>>>>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a > >>>>>>>>>> blaze of gunfire. > >>>>>>>>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video > >>>>>>>>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there > >>>>>>>>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they > >>>>>>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck. > >>>>>>>>>> End it now. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the > >>>>>>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a ' > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50 > >>>>>>>>> years. That's a hell of a lot of folks. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach > >>>>>>>> to weapons if they were actually exposed to them a
t all. I understand > >>>>>>>> in the army and marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs > >>>>>>>> but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually > >>>>>>>> handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho, > >>>>>>>> since they became cops and not life savers. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item > >>>>>>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks > >>>>>>> who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of > >>>>>>> them. And many of them are buying them. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of > >>>>>> the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military > >>>>>> capacity? > >>>>>> Very few of them ever actually served in combat. > >>>>>> I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly" > >>>>>> guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is > >>>>>> usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or > >>>>>> two but they are not scary looking ones. > >>>>>> Even my M1A is a traditional walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is > >>>>>
> usually on ban lists. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Actually a lot of western hunters like the AR platform. Can buy great > >>>>> barrels, and the recoil reduction is loved. We shoot longer distance in > >>>>> the west than the Midwest and East. > >>>>> > >>>> Hunting with an AR is an admission that you are a lousy shot and need > >>>> lots of ammo loaded up to hit and kill those groundhogs, prairie dogs, > >>>> and bunnies. > >>> > >>> Making that statement is an admission that *you* are such a lousy shot that you can't hit the broad side of a barn. An AR can be a very accurate rifle, and when used for hunting is normally fitted with a small magazine. > >>> > >>> You shouldn't project your own inadequacies on everyone else. Eh? > >> I've owned several AR style rifles that I used for target shooting. I'm > >> an accurate enough shooter but within limits, accuracy depends more on > >> the shooter than the platform. Hey, you need 30 rounds to nail that > >> critter, right? > > > > I have several 10 round magazines. You do know they are interchangeable, right? > > > > The shooter can't be more accurate than his platform. Maybe you didn't live up to yours, hence the thinking that you nee
d 30 rounds?> Actually, a good shooter can compensate to some degree for an inaccurate > platform, JackOff.How would you know, Fat Harold? You can't even compensate your payday lenders for the loans you fraudulently get.You *are* compensating for your own shortcomings by living a lie on the internet. That's something, I suppose. BTW, your CPAP needs cleaning.

Bloviating is pretty much all Fat Harry is capable of. Kind of a
worthless skill if you ask me. Even his name is worthless. Ask
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 by: gfretw...@aol.com - Fri, 10 Jun 2022 23:23 UTC

On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 14:40:12 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:

>On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 02:34:28 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Jun 2022 18:04:40 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 13:52:22 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
>>>>>>>><califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
>>>>>>>>>as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
>>>>>>>>>after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
>>>>>>>>>Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
>>>>>>>>>cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
>>>>>>>>>walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
>>>>>>>>>knife?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
>>>>>>>>think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
>>>>>>>>blaze of gunfire.
>>>>>>>>We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
>>>>>>>>games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
>>>>>>>>is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
>>>>>>>>don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
>>>>>>>>End it now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
>>>>>>>>movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a '
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50
>>>>>>>years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach
>>>>>>to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand
>>>>>>in the army and marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs
>>>>>>but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually
>>>>>>handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,
>>>>>>since they became cops and not life savers.
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item
>>>>>only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks
>>>>>who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of
>>>>>them. And many of them are buying them.
>>>>
>>>>I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of
>>>>the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military
>>>>capacity?
>>>>Very few of them ever actually served in combat.
>>>>I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly"
>>>>guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is
>>>>usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or
>>>>two but they are not scary looking ones.
>>>>Even my M1A is a traditional walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is
>>>>usually on ban lists.
>>>
>>>Regardless. They are much more than a 'niche item'. With about 20
>>>million out there,
>>
>>That is certainly true now. I was talking about the 80s when a couple
>>of California legislators started making noise about a non-existent
>>problem and got the whole thing on the front page. At that time they
>>were a niche item with very little visibility to the regular
>>sportsman. Once Boxer and Feinstein started talking about bans, people
>>did what Americans do when they hear something might not be available,
>>they bought them.
>>At that time I doubt anyone would have called an AR a sporting rifle
>>but once people had them, they adapted.
>
>The 80's?
>
>Who would have figured?

Anyone who was actually paying attention. I thought it was a stupid
campaign at the time and it took a decade to actually get the
legislation they were looking for. By then, the noise around it had
actually created a market where there had not really been one.
Even the serious collectors were not really interested in AKs or ARs
in the early 80s. I did know a guy with an M-60 tho.

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 by: John H - Sat, 11 Jun 2022 12:05 UTC

On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 19:23:27 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

>On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 14:40:12 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 02:34:28 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 09 Jun 2022 18:04:40 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 13:52:22 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
>>>>>>>>><califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
>>>>>>>>>>as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
>>>>>>>>>>after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
>>>>>>>>>>Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
>>>>>>>>>>cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
>>>>>>>>>>walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
>>>>>>>>>>knife?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
>>>>>>>>>think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
>>>>>>>>>blaze of gunfire.
>>>>>>>>>We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
>>>>>>>>>games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
>>>>>>>>>is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
>>>>>>>>>don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
>>>>>>>>>End it now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
>>>>>>>>>movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a '
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50
>>>>>>>>years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach
>>>>>>>to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand
>>>>>>>in the army and marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs
>>>>>>>but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually
>>>>>>>handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,
>>>>>>>since they became cops and not life savers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item
>>>>>>only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks
>>>>>>who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of
>>>>>>them. And many of them are buying them.
>>>>>
>>>>>I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of
>>>>>the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military
>>>>>capacity?
>>>>>Very few of them ever actually served in combat.
>>>>>I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly"
>>>>>guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is
>>>>>usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or
>>>>>two but they are not scary looking ones.
>>>>>Even my M1A is a traditional walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is
>>>>>usually on ban lists.
>>>>
>>>>Regardless. They are much more than a 'niche item'. With about 20
>>>>million out there,
>>>
>>>That is certainly true now. I was talking about the 80s when a couple
>>>of California legislators started making noise about a non-existent
>>>problem and got the whole thing on the front page. At that time they
>>>were a niche item with very little visibility to the regular
>>>sportsman. Once Boxer and Feinstein started talking about bans, people
>>>did what Americans do when they hear something might not be available,
>>>they bought them.
>>>At that time I doubt anyone would have called an AR a sporting rifle
>>>but once people had them, they adapted.
>>
>>The 80's?
>>
>>Who would have figured?
>
>Anyone who was actually paying attention. I thought it was a stupid
>campaign at the time and it took a decade to actually get the
>legislation they were looking for. By then, the noise around it had
>actually created a market where there had not really been one.
>Even the serious collectors were not really interested in AKs or ARs
>in the early 80s. I did know a guy with an M-60 tho.

Oh. I suppose I wasn't paying enough attention to realize your comment
referred to something 40 years ago.

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 by: John H - Sat, 11 Jun 2022 12:07 UTC

On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 14:21:34 -0700 (PDT), True North
<princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, 10 June 2022 at 15:35:19 UTC-3, John H wrote:
>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 07:34:26 -0700 (PDT), True North
>> <prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, 10 June 2022 at 00:20:16 UTC-3, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 10:07:35 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
>> >> > On Thursday, 9 June 2022 at 21:05:48 UTC-3, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
>> >> > > John H <jher...@cox.net> Wrote in message:r
>> >> > > > On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 07:55:29 -0400, Keyser Söze<KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:>On 6/8/22 2:36 PM, Bill wrote:>> <gfre...@aol.com> wrote:>>> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill>>>>>>> <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems>>>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself>>>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.>>>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some>>>>>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently>>>>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started
>> >stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the>>>>>>>> knife?>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They>>>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a>>>>>>> blaze of gunfire.>>>>>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video>>>>>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there>>>>>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they>>>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.>>>>>>> End it now.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the>>>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a '>>>>>>>>>>>>> And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50>>>>>> years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach>>>>> to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand>>>>> in the army
>and
>> >marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs>>>>> but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually>>>>> handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,>>>>> since they became cops and not life savers.>>>>>>>> Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item>>>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks>>>> who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of>>>> them. And many of them are buying them.>>>>>> I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of>>> the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military>>> capacity?>>> Very few of them ever actually served in combat.>>> I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly">>> guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is>>> usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or>>> two but they are not scary looking ones.>>> Even my M1A is a traditional
>> >walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is>>> usually on ban lists.>>>>> >> Actually a lot of western hunters like the AR platform. Can buy great>> barrels, and the recoil reduction is loved. We shoot longer distance in>> the west than the Midwest and East.>> >>Hunting with an AR is an admission that you are a lousy shot and need >lots of ammo loaded up to hit and kill those groundhogs, prairie dogs, >and bunnies.Why?
>> >> > > Don't hold your breath waiting for a cleaver comback. He lost that
>> >> > > capability long ago.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > >
>> >> > > ----Android NewsGroup Reader----
>> >> > > https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html
>> >> > Say what?
>> >> > Just exactly what is a "cleaver comback"?
>> >> > Y'all southern boys sure do talk funny.
>> >> ===
>> >>
>> >> A cleaver is something used to make a cutting remark, which may also be clever, or not.
>> >
>> >Very good...but in Justins' case I think he just has problems with the Queens' English.
>> Punctuate much, dumb shit? Or do you have multiple queens now?
>
>
>Are y'all that stupid, JohnnyMop?

Because you can't punctuate properly?

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On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 08:05:56 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:

>On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 19:23:27 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 14:40:12 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 02:34:28 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 09 Jun 2022 18:04:40 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 13:52:22 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
>>>>>>>>>><califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
>>>>>>>>>>>as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
>>>>>>>>>>>after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
>>>>>>>>>>>Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
>>>>>>>>>>>cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
>>>>>>>>>>>walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
>>>>>>>>>>>knife?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
>>>>>>>>>>think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
>>>>>>>>>>blaze of gunfire.
>>>>>>>>>>We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
>>>>>>>>>>games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
>>>>>>>>>>is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
>>>>>>>>>>don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
>>>>>>>>>>End it now.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
>>>>>>>>>>movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a '
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50
>>>>>>>>>years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach
>>>>>>>>to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand
>>>>>>>>in the army and marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs
>>>>>>>>but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually
>>>>>>>>handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,
>>>>>>>>since they became cops and not life savers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item
>>>>>>>only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks
>>>>>>>who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of
>>>>>>>them. And many of them are buying them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of
>>>>>>the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military
>>>>>>capacity?
>>>>>>Very few of them ever actually served in combat.
>>>>>>I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly"
>>>>>>guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is
>>>>>>usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or
>>>>>>two but they are not scary looking ones.
>>>>>>Even my M1A is a traditional walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is
>>>>>>usually on ban lists.
>>>>>
>>>>>Regardless. They are much more than a 'niche item'. With about 20
>>>>>million out there,
>>>>
>>>>That is certainly true now. I was talking about the 80s when a couple
>>>>of California legislators started making noise about a non-existent
>>>>problem and got the whole thing on the front page. At that time they
>>>>were a niche item with very little visibility to the regular
>>>>sportsman. Once Boxer and Feinstein started talking about bans, people
>>>>did what Americans do when they hear something might not be available,
>>>>they bought them.
>>>>At that time I doubt anyone would have called an AR a sporting rifle
>>>>but once people had them, they adapted.
>>>
>>>The 80's?
>>>
>>>Who would have figured?
>>
>>Anyone who was actually paying attention. I thought it was a stupid
>>campaign at the time and it took a decade to actually get the
>>legislation they were looking for. By then, the noise around it had
>>actually created a market where there had not really been one.
>>Even the serious collectors were not really interested in AKs or ARs
>>in the early 80s. I did know a guy with an M-60 tho.
>
>Oh. I suppose I wasn't paying enough attention to realize your comment
>referred to something 40 years ago.

Yup, this assault weapon thing has been 35-40 years in the making and
the impetus was the threat of a ban on something most people never
knew was a thing. The fastest way to sell something in the US is to
say "Hurry, limited time offer", "Close out" or "Get them before they
are gone".
Remember the toilet paper?


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