On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 13:08:21 -0400, Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:

>On 6/7/22 12:43 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 11:36:15 -0400, Keyser Söze
>> <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/7/22 10:09 AM, John H wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 09:35:11 -0400, Keyser Söze
>>>> <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/7/22 12:13 AM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
>>>>>> <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
>>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
>>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
>>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
>>>>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
>>>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
>>>>>>> knife?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
>>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
>>>>>> blaze of gunfire.
>>>>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
>>>>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
>>>>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
>>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
>>>>>> End it now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
>>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a niche item
>>>>>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Teens in all of the modern western world are exposed to the same sorts
>>>>> of media and violent video games but only in the USA do we have the
>>>>> large number and frequency of mass shootings. I think the answer lies
>>>>> elsewhere.
>>>>
>>>> “One of the ways Chicago is different is that our social conditions
>>>> are not anything like those now in New York City and Los Angeles,”
>>>> Jens Ludwig, director of the Crime Lab, told a City Club audience
>>>> early this year. “We are not just the most segregated city in America,
>>>> but the level of concentrated poverty we have in our neighborhoods is
>>>> unlike anything in Los Angeles or New York. You would not find an
>>>> Englewood or Garfield Park anywhere in Los Angeles and New York.”
>>>>
>>>> The dynamics at play, the ones Chicagoans want to understand to end
>>>> the bloodshed, are complex. Gang life is a substitute for hope in
>>>> isolated neighborhoods. Every shooting invites a retaliatory attack.
>>>> In a city of 2.7 million people, a relatively small number of
>>>> criminals — perhaps 5,000 to 10,000 thugs and drug dealers — are
>>>> driving a large share of the violence. “It’s the same individuals that
>>>> continuously commit these crimes,” Chicago Police Department
>>>> Superintendent Eddie Johnson said.
>>>>
>>>> Black lives matter, except to other blacks. This holds true for
>>>> Hispanics also.
>>>>
>>>> More: "We failed as a criminal justice entity in the past. Mr. Johnson
>>>> felt invincible from the law; and rightfully so, even after five
>>>> felony convictions, one of them for beating and imprisoning a women
>>>> for several hours in his house; he never served a single day in
>>>> prison. I would request the court take his criminal past into
>>>> consideration along with his current monstrosities. It's imperative
>>>> that he receive the maximum possible sentence for this aggravated and
>>>> atrocious act. That will give some amount of closure to the victims'
>>>> families and make up for our past mistakes; if Mr. Johnson was ...
>>>> sent to prison on his violent case against women in 2009 or the two
>>>> 2012 cases, this violent event would have never taken place and the
>>>> victims would still be alive today."
>>>>
>>>> Let's fire some liberal judges.
>>>
>>> Nice try at shoveling your racism, Herring, but what is being discussed
>>> are the mass shootings being committed by mostly white boys at schools,
>>> shopping centers, churches. The black gang-related shootings are
>>> horrible, of course, but are manifestations of a different problem.
>>
>> OK then, tell that to the news people who co-mingle those stats.
>> This week they are talking about over a dozen "mass shootings" that
>> happened over the weekend and exactly ZERO of them were "white boys"
>> shooting up "schools, shopping centers and churches".
>> Then look at some of the non-gang shootings.
>> In fact Uvalde was an Hispanic kid, Tulsa was a black guy, as was the
>> Brooklyn subway shooter. That is just this year.
>> The Navy Yard was a black guy and Ft Hood was an Arab.
>> "Active shooter" seems to be an equal opportunity crime.
>>
>
>Hispanic is white, as is Arab, usually.

Sidestepped that one nicely, eh Krause?

On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:09:05 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

>On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 09:35:11 -0400, Keyser Söze
><KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
>
>>On 6/7/22 12:13 AM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
>>> <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
>>>> walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
>>>> knife?
>>>
>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
>>> blaze of gunfire.
>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
>>> End it now.
>>>
>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a niche item
>>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks.
>>>
>>
>>Teens in all of the modern western world are exposed to the same sorts
>>of media and violent video games but only in the USA do we have the
>>large number and frequency of mass shootings. I think the answer lies
>>elsewhere.
>
>Perhaps our society as a whole explains the difference. Bear in mind
>you need to look at the teens who do most of the shooting and it is
>not that white suburban kid in a school. It is the teen gang member in
>the inner city. They just don't make the news.
>That is where the hopelessness really thrives. If you are a kid in the
>slums of West Bal'mer, your best chance to actually make more than $8
>an hour is in the drug trade. That means guns and violence.
>The vast majority of "mass shootings" like the dozen or more they are
>wringing their hands about on TV this week happened in that
>environment. We won't say that.
>I think it is amusing that the same talking heads on our TV news who
>are alluding to the idea that there were a dozen school shootings or
>some other horror and at the same time they report on our most
>infamous mass shooting here and showing the gang members going off to
>do life for it.
>
>https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fort-myers-nightclub-shooting-club-blu-multiple-people-shot-in-florida-nightclub-report/
>https://www.news-press.com/story/news/crime/2022/05/03/club-blu-mass-shooting-kierra-russ-found-guilty-left-2-dead-fort-myers/9585716002/
>
>Pack up 10,000 gangbangers from any US city and dump them in Sweden,
>watch their crime rate soar. Unfortunately that culture also bleeds
>out into our suburbs too.
>

That last line says it all, as far as Harry's argument
goes.

On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

>On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
>>><califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
>>>>as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
>>>>after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
>>>>Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
>>>>cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
>>>>walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
>>>>knife?
>>>
>>>It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
>>>think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
>>>blaze of gunfire.
>>>We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
>>>games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
>>>is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
>>>don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
>>>End it now.
>>>
>>>The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
>>>movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a '
>>>
>>And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50
>>years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.
>>
>
>Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach
>to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand
>in the army and marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs
>but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually
>handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,
>since they became cops and not life savers.

Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item
only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks
who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of
them. And many of them are buying them.

True North <princecraft49@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
> Will this latest event in Texas be the one to bring sanity to gun regulations or will it just be another round of hand wringing before something new pops up to occupy the flighty attention of the average American.

Only after a new democrat party rises up out of the ashes of the current one. Your pal is a perfect example of why this must happen. Except for the fact he's penniless, he's just like the swamp dwellas that infest the nations cesspool of a capital. it's odd that a hard working janitor would choose him for a role model. That tells us much about you.
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On Wed, 8 Jun 2022 08:48:11 -0400 (EDT), Justan Ohlphart
<me@yourservice.com> wrote:

>True North <princecraft49@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
>> Will this latest event in Texas be the one to bring sanity to gun regulations or will it just be another round of hand wringing before something new pops up to occupy the flighty attention of the average American.
>
>Only after a new democrat party rises up out of the ashes of the current one. Your pal is a perfect example of why this must happen. Except for the fact he's penniless, he's just like the swamp dwellas that infest the nations cesspool of a capital. it's odd that a hard working janitor would choose him for a role model. That tells us much about you.

....and he owns a lot of guns.

On 6/8/22 8:50 AM, John H wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Jun 2022 08:48:11 -0400 (EDT), Justan Ohlphart
> <me@yourservice.com> wrote:
>
>> True North <princecraft49@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
>>> Will this latest event in Texas be the one to bring sanity to gun regulations or will it just be another round of hand wringing before something new pops up to occupy the flighty attention of the average American.
>>
>> Only after a new democrat party rises up out of the ashes of the current one. Your pal is a perfect example of why this must happen. Except for the fact he's penniless, he's just like the swamp dwellas that infest the nations cesspool of a capital. it's odd that a hard working janitor would choose him for a role model. That tells us much about you.
>
> ...and he owns a lot of guns.

I own a few firearms but I sold my "AR" style rifle. Unlike you, I
still see well enough to shoot accurately

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On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
>>>><califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
>>>>>as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
>>>>>after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
>>>>>Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
>>>>>cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
>>>>>walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
>>>>>knife?
>>>>
>>>>It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
>>>>think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
>>>>blaze of gunfire.
>>>>We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
>>>>games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
>>>>is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
>>>>don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
>>>>End it now.
>>>>
>>>>The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
>>>>movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a '
>>>>
>>>And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50
>>>years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.
>>>
>>
>>Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach
>>to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand
>>in the army and marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs
>>but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually
>>handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,
>>since they became cops and not life savers.
>
>Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item
>only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks
>who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of
>them. And many of them are buying them.

I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of
the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military
capacity?
Very few of them ever actually served in combat.
I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly"
guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is
usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or
two but they are not scary looking ones.
Even my M1A is a traditional walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is
usually on ban lists.

<gfretwell@aol.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
>>>>> <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
>>>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
>>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
>>>>>> knife?
>>>>>
>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
>>>>> blaze of gunfire.
>>>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
>>>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
>>>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
>>>>> End it now.
>>>>>
>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a '
>>>>>
>>>> And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50
>>>> years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach
>>> to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand
>>> in the army and marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs
>>> but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually
>>> handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,
>>> since they became cops and not life savers.
>>
>> Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item
>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks
>> who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of
>> them. And many of them are buying them.
>
> I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of
> the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military
> capacity?
> Very few of them ever actually served in combat.
> I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly"
> guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is
> usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or
> two but they are not scary looking ones.
> Even my M1A is a traditional walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is
> usually on ban lists.
>

Actually a lot of western hunters like the AR platform. Can buy great
barrels, and the recoil reduction is loved. We shoot longer distance in
the west than the Midwest and East.

On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
<califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:

>Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
>as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
>after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
>Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
>cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
>walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
>knife?

If you don't stop, I'm going to have another hissy fit.

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On Wed, 8 Jun 2022 18:36:46 -0000 (UTC), Bill
<califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:

><gfretwell@aol.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
>>>>>> <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
>>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
>>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
>>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
>>>>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
>>>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
>>>>>>> knife?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
>>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
>>>>>> blaze of gunfire.
>>>>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
>>>>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
>>>>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
>>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
>>>>>> End it now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
>>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a '
>>>>>>
>>>>> And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50
>>>>> years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach
>>>> to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand
>>>> in the army and marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs
>>>> but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually
>>>> handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,
>>>> since they became cops and not life savers.
>>>
>>> Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item
>>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks
>>> who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of
>>> them. And many of them are buying them.
>>
>> I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of
>> the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military
>> capacity?
>> Very few of them ever actually served in combat.
>> I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly"
>> guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is
>> usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or
>> two but they are not scary looking ones.
>> Even my M1A is a traditional walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is
>> usually on ban lists.
>>
>
>Actually a lot of western hunters like the AR platform. Can buy great
>barrels, and the recoil reduction is loved. We shoot longer distance in
>the west than the Midwest and East.

Is that because your gun is pretty small?

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On Wed, 8 Jun 2022 09:04:49 -0400, Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:

>On 6/8/22 8:50 AM, John H wrote:
>> On Wed, 8 Jun 2022 08:48:11 -0400 (EDT), Justan Ohlphart
>> <me@yourservice.com> wrote:
>>
>>> True North <princecraft49@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
>>>> Will this latest event in Texas be the one to bring sanity to gun regulations or will it just be another round of hand wringing before something new pops up to occupy the flighty attention of the average American.
>>>
>>> Only after a new democrat party rises up out of the ashes of the current one. Your pal is a perfect example of why this must happen. Except for the fact he's penniless, he's just like the swamp dwellas that infest the nations cesspool of a capital. it's odd that a hard working janitor would choose him for a role model. That tells us much about you.
>>
>> ...and he owns a lot of guns.
>
> I own a few firearms but I sold my "AR" style rifle. Unlike you, I
>still see well enough to shoot accurately

Well, you don't have your head up your ass, so it makes it easier to
see.

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On Wednesday, 8 June 2022 at 18:45:31 UTC-3, justan wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Jun 2022 18:36:46 -0000 (UTC), Bill
> <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ><gfre...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
> >>>>>> <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
> >>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
> >>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
> >>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
> >>>>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
> >>>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
> >>>>>>> knife?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
> >>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
> >>>>>> blaze of gunfire.
> >>>>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
> >>>>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
> >>>>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
> >>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
> >>>>>> End it now.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
> >>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a '
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50
> >>>>> years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach
> >>>> to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand
> >>>> in the army and marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs
> >>>> but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually
> >>>> handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,
> >>>> since they became cops and not life savers.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item
> >>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks
> >>> who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of
> >>> them. And many of them are buying them.
> >>
> >> I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of
> >> the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military
> >> capacity?
> >> Very few of them ever actually served in combat.
> >> I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly"
> >> guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is
> >> usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or
> >> two but they are not scary looking ones.
> >> Even my M1A is a traditional walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is
> >> usually on ban lists.
> >>
> >
> >Actually a lot of western hunters like the AR platform. Can buy great
> >barrels, and the recoil reduction is loved. We shoot longer distance in
> >the west than the Midwest and East.
> Is that because your gun is pretty small?
>
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SNERK!

On 6/8/22 2:36 PM, Bill wrote:
> <gfretwell@aol.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
>>>>>> <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
>>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
>>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
>>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
>>>>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
>>>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
>>>>>>> knife?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
>>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
>>>>>> blaze of gunfire.
>>>>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
>>>>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
>>>>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
>>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
>>>>>> End it now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
>>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a '
>>>>>>
>>>>> And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50
>>>>> years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach
>>>> to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand
>>>> in the army and marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs
>>>> but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually
>>>> handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,
>>>> since they became cops and not life savers.
>>>
>>> Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item
>>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks
>>> who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of
>>> them. And many of them are buying them.
>>
>> I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of
>> the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military
>> capacity?
>> Very few of them ever actually served in combat.
>> I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly"
>> guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is
>> usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or
>> two but they are not scary looking ones.
>> Even my M1A is a traditional walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is
>> usually on ban lists.
>>
>
> Actually a lot of western hunters like the AR platform. Can buy great
> barrels, and the recoil reduction is loved. We shoot longer distance in
> the west than the Midwest and East.
>

Hunting with an AR is an admission that you are a lousy shot and need
lots of ammo loaded up to hit and kill those groundhogs, prairie dogs,
and bunnies.

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True North <princecraft49@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
> On Wednesday, 8 June 2022 at 18:45:31 UTC-3, justan wrote:> On Wed, 8 Jun 2022 18:36:46 -0000 (UTC), Bill> <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote: > > ><gfre...@aol.com> wrote: > >> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote: > >> > >>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill > >>>>>> <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems > >>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself > >>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide. > >>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some > >>>>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently > >>>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the > >>>>>>> knife? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They > >>
>>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a > >>>>>> blaze of gunfire. > >>>>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video > >>>>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there > >>>>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they > >>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck. > >>>>>> End it now. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the > >>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a ' > >>>>>> > >>>>> And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50 > >>>>> years. That's a hell of a lot of folks. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach > >>>> to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand > >>>> in the army and marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs > >>>> but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually > >>>> handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho, > >>>> since they became cops and not life savers. > >>> > >>> Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item
> >>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks > >>> who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of > >>> them. And many of them are buying them. > >> > >> I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of > >> the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military > >> capacity? > >> Very few of them ever actually served in combat. > >> I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly" > >> guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is > >> usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or > >> two but they are not scary looking ones. > >> Even my M1A is a traditional walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is > >> usually on ban lists. > >> > > > >Actually a lot of western hunters like the AR platform. Can buy great > >barrels, and the recoil reduction is loved. We shoot longer distance in > >the west than the Midwest and East.> Is that because your gun is pretty small? > > -- > Lets go Brandon....> ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- > https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlSNERK!

Donnie. Its a shame that you had to use such a large percentage of
your vocabulary responding to a spoofing a'hole.
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On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 7:55:31 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:
> On 6/8/22 2:36 PM, Bill wrote:
> > <gfre...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
> >>>>>> <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
> >>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
> >>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
> >>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
> >>>>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
> >>>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
> >>>>>>> knife?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
> >>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
> >>>>>> blaze of gunfire.
> >>>>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
> >>>>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
> >>>>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
> >>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
> >>>>>> End it now.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
> >>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a '
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50
> >>>>> years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach
> >>>> to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand
> >>>> in the army and marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs
> >>>> but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually
> >>>> handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,
> >>>> since they became cops and not life savers.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item
> >>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks
> >>> who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of
> >>> them. And many of them are buying them.
> >>
> >> I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of
> >> the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military
> >> capacity?
> >> Very few of them ever actually served in combat.
> >> I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly"
> >> guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is
> >> usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or
> >> two but they are not scary looking ones.
> >> Even my M1A is a traditional walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is
> >> usually on ban lists.
> >>
> >
> > Actually a lot of western hunters like the AR platform. Can buy great
> > barrels, and the recoil reduction is loved. We shoot longer distance in
> > the west than the Midwest and East.
> >
> Hunting with an AR is an admission that you are a lousy shot and need
> lots of ammo loaded up to hit and kill those groundhogs, prairie dogs,
> and bunnies.

Making that statement is an admission that *you* are such a lousy shot that you can't hit the broad side of a barn. An AR can be a very accurate rifle, and when used for hunting is normally fitted with a small magazine.

You shouldn't project your own inadequacies on everyone else. Eh?

On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 8:12:56 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
> True North <prince...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
> > On Wednesday, 8 June 2022 at 18:45:31 UTC-3, justan wrote:> On Wed, 8 Jun 2022 18:36:46 -0000 (UTC), Bill> <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote: > > ><gfre...@aol.com> wrote: > >> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote: > >> > >>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfre....@aol.com wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill > >>>>>> <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems > >>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself > >>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide. > >>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some > >>>>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently > >>>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the > >>>>>>> knife? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They > >>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a > >>>>>> blaze of gunfire. > >>>>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video > >>>>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there > >>>>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they > >>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck. > >>>>>> End it now. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the > >>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a ' > >>>>>> > >>>>> And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50 > >>>>> years. That's a hell of a lot of folks. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach > >>>> to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand > >>>> in the army and marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs > >>>> but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually > >>>> handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho, > >>>> since they became cops and not life savers. > >>> > >>> Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item > >>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks > >>> who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of > >>> them. And many of them are buying them. > >> > >> I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of > >> the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military > >> capacity? > >> Very few of them ever actually served in combat. > >> I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly" > >> guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is > >> usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or > >> two but they are not scary looking ones. > >> Even my M1A is a traditional walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is > >> usually on ban lists. > >> > > > >Actually a lot of western hunters like the AR platform. Can buy great > >barrels, and the recoil reduction is loved. We shoot longer distance in > >the west than the Midwest and East.> Is that because your gun is pretty small? > > -- > Lets go Brandon....> ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- > https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlSNERK!
> Donnie. Its a shame that you had to use such a large percentage of
> your vocabulary responding to a spoofing a'hole.

Donnie seems very confused about what's real and what's not.

> lets go Brandon...

I'm pulling for sleepy joe. He's going to hand the dems huge losses in the midterms and hopefully protect us from kammy until the end of his own, single term.
Buh-bye, joe.

On 6/9/22 8:35 AM, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 7:55:31 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:
>> On 6/8/22 2:36 PM, Bill wrote:
>>> <gfre...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
>>>>>>>> <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
>>>>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
>>>>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
>>>>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
>>>>>>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
>>>>>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
>>>>>>>>> knife?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
>>>>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
>>>>>>>> blaze of gunfire.
>>>>>>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
>>>>>>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
>>>>>>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
>>>>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
>>>>>>>> End it now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
>>>>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a '
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50
>>>>>>> years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach
>>>>>> to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand
>>>>>> in the army and marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs
>>>>>> but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually
>>>>>> handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,
>>>>>> since they became cops and not life savers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item
>>>>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks
>>>>> who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of
>>>>> them. And many of them are buying them.
>>>>
>>>> I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of
>>>> the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military
>>>> capacity?
>>>> Very few of them ever actually served in combat.
>>>> I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly"
>>>> guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is
>>>> usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or
>>>> two but they are not scary looking ones.
>>>> Even my M1A is a traditional walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is
>>>> usually on ban lists.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Actually a lot of western hunters like the AR platform. Can buy great
>>> barrels, and the recoil reduction is loved. We shoot longer distance in
>>> the west than the Midwest and East.
>>>
>> Hunting with an AR is an admission that you are a lousy shot and need
>> lots of ammo loaded up to hit and kill those groundhogs, prairie dogs,
>> and bunnies.
>
> Making that statement is an admission that *you* are such a lousy shot that you can't hit the broad side of a barn. An AR can be a very accurate rifle, and when used for hunting is normally fitted with a small magazine.
>
> You shouldn't project your own inadequacies on everyone else. Eh?

I've owned several AR style rifles that I used for target shooting. I'm
an accurate enough shooter but within limits, accuracy depends more on
the shooter than the platform. Hey, you need 30 rounds to nail that
critter, right?

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"345...@gmail.com" <3452471@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 8:12:56 AM UTC-4, Justan Ohlphart wrote:> True North <prince...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r> > On Wednesday, 8 June 2022 at 18:45:31 UTC-3, justan wrote:> On Wed, 8 Jun 2022 18:36:46 -0000 (UTC), Bill> <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote: > > ><gfre...@aol.com> wrote: > >> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote: > >> > >>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill > >>>>>> <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems > >>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself > >>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide. > >>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some > >>>>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently > >>>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and n
urses. Blame the > >>>>>>> knife? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They > >>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a > >>>>>> blaze of gunfire. > >>>>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video > >>>>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there > >>>>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they > >>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck. > >>>>>> End it now. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the > >>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a ' > >>>>>> > >>>>> And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50 > >>>>> years. That's a hell of a lot of folks. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach > >>>> to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand > >>>> in the army and marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs > >>>> but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually > >>>> handling any small arms. The CG is a bit differe
nt these days tho, > >>>> since they became cops and not life savers. > >>> > >>> Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item > >>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks > >>> who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of > >>> them. And many of them are buying them. > >> > >> I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of > >> the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military > >> capacity? > >> Very few of them ever actually served in combat. > >> I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly" > >> guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is > >> usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or > >> two but they are not scary looking ones. > >> Even my M1A is a traditional walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is > >> usually on ban lists. > >> > > > >Actually a lot of western hunters like the AR platform. Can buy great > >barrels, and the recoil reduction is loved. We shoot longer distance in > >the west than the Midwest and East.> Is that because your gun is pretty small? > > -- > Lets go Brandon....> ----Android
NewsGroup Reader---- > https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlSNERK!> Donnie. Its a shame that you had to use such a large percentage of > your vocabulary responding to a spoofing a'hole. Donnie seems very confused about what's real and what's not.> lets go Brandon...I'm pulling for sleepy joe. He's going to hand the dems huge losses in the midterms and hopefully protect us from kammy until the end of his own, single term.Buh-bye, joe.

The Dem's have a constitutional responsibility to hand the reins
to Karmella when Joes brain shows no signs of activity. We're
getting close. I can't wait to see how they maneuver around the
provisions of article 2. They better act fast. In November they
will lose control over everything except what's left of the mind
of sleepy Joe. Wouldn't it be a hoot if he decided to switch
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Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> Wrote in message:r
> On 6/9/22 8:35 AM, 345...@gmail.com wrote:> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 7:55:31 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:>> On 6/8/22 2:36 PM, Bill wrote:>>> <gfre...@aol.com> wrote:>>>> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill>>>>>>>> <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems>>>>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself>>>>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.>>>>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some>>>>>>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently>>>>>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the>>>>>>>>> knife?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They>>>>>>>> think the only
way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a>>>>>>>> blaze of gunfire.>>>>>>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video>>>>>>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there>>>>>>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they>>>>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.>>>>>>>> End it now.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the>>>>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a '>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50>>>>>>> years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach>>>>>> to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand>>>>>> in the army and marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs>>>>>> but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually>>>>>> handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,>>>>>> since they became cops and not life savers.>>>>>>>>>> Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item>>>>> only really known to a few collector
s and gun folks." All those folks>>>>> who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of>>>>> them. And many of them are buying them.>>>>>>>> I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of>>>> the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military>>>> capacity?>>>> Very few of them ever actually served in combat.>>>> I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly">>>> guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is>>>> usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or>>>> two but they are not scary looking ones.>>>> Even my M1A is a traditional walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is>>>> usually on ban lists.>>>>>>>>>> Actually a lot of western hunters like the AR platform. Can buy great>>> barrels, and the recoil reduction is loved. We shoot longer distance in>>> the west than the Midwest and East.>>>>> Hunting with an AR is an admission that you are a lousy shot and need>> lots of ammo loaded up to hit and kill those groundhogs, prairie dogs,>> and bunnies.> > Making that statement is an admission that *you* are such a lousy shot that you can't hit the broad si
de of a barn. An AR can be a very accurate rifle, and when used for hunting is normally fitted with a small magazine.> > You shouldn't project your own inadequacies on everyone else. Eh?I've owned several AR style rifles that I used for target shooting. I'm an accurate enough shooter but within limits, accuracy depends more on the shooter than the platform. Hey, you need 30 rounds to nail that critter, right?-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

The credibility of that statement is as suspect as every statement
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On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 9:11:39 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:
> On 6/9/22 8:35 AM, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 7:55:31 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:
> >> On 6/8/22 2:36 PM, Bill wrote:
> >>> <gfre...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
> >>>>>>>> <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
> >>>>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
> >>>>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
> >>>>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
> >>>>>>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
> >>>>>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses.. Blame the
> >>>>>>>>> knife?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
> >>>>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
> >>>>>>>> blaze of gunfire.
> >>>>>>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
> >>>>>>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
> >>>>>>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
> >>>>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
> >>>>>>>> End it now.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
> >>>>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a '
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50
> >>>>>>> years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach
> >>>>>> to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand
> >>>>>> in the army and marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs
> >>>>>> but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually
> >>>>>> handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,
> >>>>>> since they became cops and not life savers.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item
> >>>>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks
> >>>>> who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of
> >>>>> them. And many of them are buying them.
> >>>>
> >>>> I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of
> >>>> the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military
> >>>> capacity?
> >>>> Very few of them ever actually served in combat.
> >>>> I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly"
> >>>> guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is
> >>>> usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or
> >>>> two but they are not scary looking ones.
> >>>> Even my M1A is a traditional walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is
> >>>> usually on ban lists.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Actually a lot of western hunters like the AR platform. Can buy great
> >>> barrels, and the recoil reduction is loved. We shoot longer distance in
> >>> the west than the Midwest and East.
> >>>
> >> Hunting with an AR is an admission that you are a lousy shot and need
> >> lots of ammo loaded up to hit and kill those groundhogs, prairie dogs,
> >> and bunnies.
> >
> > Making that statement is an admission that *you* are such a lousy shot that you can't hit the broad side of a barn. An AR can be a very accurate rifle, and when used for hunting is normally fitted with a small magazine.
> >
> > You shouldn't project your own inadequacies on everyone else. Eh?
> I've owned several AR style rifles that I used for target shooting. I'm
> an accurate enough shooter but within limits, accuracy depends more on
> the shooter than the platform. Hey, you need 30 rounds to nail that
> critter, right?

I have several 10 round magazines. You do know they are interchangeable, right?

The shooter can't be more accurate than his platform. Maybe you didn't live up to yours, hence the thinking that you need 30 rounds?

Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
> On 6/8/22 2:36 PM, Bill wrote:
>> <gfretwell@aol.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
>>>>>>> <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
>>>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
>>>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
>>>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
>>>>>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
>>>>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
>>>>>>>> knife?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
>>>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
>>>>>>> blaze of gunfire.
>>>>>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
>>>>>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
>>>>>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
>>>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
>>>>>>> End it now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
>>>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a '
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50
>>>>>> years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach
>>>>> to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand
>>>>> in the army and marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs
>>>>> but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually
>>>>> handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,
>>>>> since they became cops and not life savers.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item
>>>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks
>>>> who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of
>>>> them. And many of them are buying them.
>>>
>>> I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of
>>> the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military
>>> capacity?
>>> Very few of them ever actually served in combat.
>>> I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly"
>>> guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is
>>> usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or
>>> two but they are not scary looking ones.
>>> Even my M1A is a traditional walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is
>>> usually on ban lists.
>>>
>>
>> Actually a lot of western hunters like the AR platform. Can buy great
>> barrels, and the recoil reduction is loved. We shoot longer distance in
>> the west than the Midwest and East.
>>
>
> Hunting with an AR is an admission that you are a lousy shot and need
> lots of ammo loaded up to hit and kill those groundhogs, prairie dogs,
> and bunnies.
>

We are allowed the same number of rounds magazine as most of the semiauto
rifles have. Same as my Remington 7400 jamomatic.

Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
> On 6/9/22 8:35 AM, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 7:55:31 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:
>>> On 6/8/22 2:36 PM, Bill wrote:
>>>> <gfre...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
>>>>>>>>> <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
>>>>>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
>>>>>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
>>>>>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
>>>>>>>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
>>>>>>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
>>>>>>>>>> knife?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
>>>>>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
>>>>>>>>> blaze of gunfire.
>>>>>>>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
>>>>>>>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
>>>>>>>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
>>>>>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
>>>>>>>>> End it now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
>>>>>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a '
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50
>>>>>>>> years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach
>>>>>>> to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand
>>>>>>> in the army and marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs
>>>>>>> but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually
>>>>>>> handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,
>>>>>>> since they became cops and not life savers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item
>>>>>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks
>>>>>> who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of
>>>>>> them. And many of them are buying them.
>>>>>
>>>>> I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of
>>>>> the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military
>>>>> capacity?
>>>>> Very few of them ever actually served in combat.
>>>>> I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly"
>>>>> guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is
>>>>> usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or
>>>>> two but they are not scary looking ones.
>>>>> Even my M1A is a traditional walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is
>>>>> usually on ban lists.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Actually a lot of western hunters like the AR platform. Can buy great
>>>> barrels, and the recoil reduction is loved. We shoot longer distance in
>>>> the west than the Midwest and East.
>>>>
>>> Hunting with an AR is an admission that you are a lousy shot and need
>>> lots of ammo loaded up to hit and kill those groundhogs, prairie dogs,
>>> and bunnies.
>>
>> Making that statement is an admission that *you* are such a lousy shot
>> that you can't hit the broad side of a barn. An AR can be a very
>> accurate rifle, and when used for hunting is normally fitted with a small magazine.
>>
>> You shouldn't project your own inadequacies on everyone else. Eh?
>
> I've owned several AR style rifles that I used for target shooting. I'm
> an accurate enough shooter but within limits, accuracy depends more on
> the shooter than the platform. Hey, you need 30 rounds to nail that
> critter, right?
>
>

Actually when hunting the west, a 200 yard shot is entirely reasonable.
And a crappy rifle will give large patterns.

On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 13:52:22 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

>On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
>>>>><califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
>>>>>>as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
>>>>>>after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
>>>>>>Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
>>>>>>cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
>>>>>>walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
>>>>>>knife?
>>>>>
>>>>>It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
>>>>>think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
>>>>>blaze of gunfire.
>>>>>We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
>>>>>games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
>>>>>is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
>>>>>don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
>>>>>End it now.
>>>>>
>>>>>The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
>>>>>movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a '
>>>>>
>>>>And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50
>>>>years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach
>>>to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand
>>>in the army and marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs
>>>but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually
>>>handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,
>>>since they became cops and not life savers.
>>
>>Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item
>>only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks
>>who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of
>>them. And many of them are buying them.
>
>I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of
>the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military
>capacity?
>Very few of them ever actually served in combat.
>I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly"
>guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is
>usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or
>two but they are not scary looking ones.
>Even my M1A is a traditional walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is
>usually on ban lists.

Regardless. They are much more than a 'niche item'. With about 20
million out there,

On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 07:55:29 -0400, Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:

>On 6/8/22 2:36 PM, Bill wrote:
>> <gfretwell@aol.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
>>>>>>> <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
>>>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
>>>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
>>>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
>>>>>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
>>>>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
>>>>>>>> knife?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
>>>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
>>>>>>> blaze of gunfire.
>>>>>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
>>>>>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
>>>>>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
>>>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
>>>>>>> End it now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
>>>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a '
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50
>>>>>> years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach
>>>>> to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand
>>>>> in the army and marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs
>>>>> but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually
>>>>> handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,
>>>>> since they became cops and not life savers.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item
>>>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks
>>>> who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of
>>>> them. And many of them are buying them.
>>>
>>> I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of
>>> the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military
>>> capacity?
>>> Very few of them ever actually served in combat.
>>> I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly"
>>> guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is
>>> usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or
>>> two but they are not scary looking ones.
>>> Even my M1A is a traditional walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is
>>> usually on ban lists.
>>>
>>
>> Actually a lot of western hunters like the AR platform. Can buy great
>> barrels, and the recoil reduction is loved. We shoot longer distance in
>> the west than the Midwest and East.
>>
>
>Hunting with an AR is an admission that you are a lousy shot and need
>lots of ammo loaded up to hit and kill those groundhogs, prairie dogs,
>and bunnies.

Why?

On 6/9/22 12:20 PM, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 9:11:39 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:
>> On 6/9/22 8:35 AM, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 7:55:31 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:
>>>> On 6/8/22 2:36 PM, Bill wrote:
>>>>> <gfre...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:39:15 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:15:48 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 10:00:32 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:13:07 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 02:40:47 -0000 (UTC), Bill
>>>>>>>>>> <califbill9...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should quit blaming guns and ask why so many teen suicides? Seems
>>>>>>>>>>> as if the way now is to do a mass shooting and death by cop or do yourself
>>>>>>>>>>> after posting on social media. Even Apple had a podcast on teen suicide.
>>>>>>>>>>> Why so many shot in certain cultures in this country every weekend in some
>>>>>>>>>>> cities? Blaming guns is doing nothing for the problem. Some guy recently
>>>>>>>>>>> walked in to a hospital and started stabbing doctors and nurses. Blame the
>>>>>>>>>>> knife?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is probably just a metaphor for how hopeless some teens feel. They
>>>>>>>>>> think the only way they will ever get any attention is to go out in a
>>>>>>>>>> blaze of gunfire.
>>>>>>>>>> We have desensitized them to death and glorified murder with video
>>>>>>>>>> games and movies. Then you have the Al Gore folks telling them there
>>>>>>>>>> is no future anyway. The earth is doomed, the economy sucks and they
>>>>>>>>>> don't see any job they want to do so what the fuck.
>>>>>>>>>> End it now.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The ironic thing is if it wasn't for those folks in media and the
>>>>>>>>>> movies glamorizing "assault weapons" they would still be a '
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And anyone who'd been associated with the military in the past 50
>>>>>>>>> years. That's a hell of a lot of folks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Most military folks came away with a "Been there done that" approach
>>>>>>>> to weapons if they were actually exposed to them at all. I understand
>>>>>>>> in the army and marines your weapon is your companion for most MOSs
>>>>>>>> but in the air force, navy or coast guard, few people are actually
>>>>>>>> handling any small arms. The CG is a bit different these days tho,
>>>>>>>> since they became cops and not life savers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, but they're much more than a"niche item
>>>>>>> only really known to a few collectors and gun folks." All those folks
>>>>>>> who went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan have a healthy knowledge of
>>>>>>> them. And many of them are buying them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I bet, not as many as you think and it is still a very small subset of
>>>>>> the American public. What percentage of adults served in any military
>>>>>> capacity?
>>>>>> Very few of them ever actually served in combat.
>>>>>> I know lots of veterans and ex cops who have no interest in "ugly"
>>>>>> guns. They may hunt or keep a firearm for home protection but it is
>>>>>> usually a handgun or a shotgun. Deer hunters may have a nice rifle or
>>>>>> two but they are not scary looking ones.
>>>>>> Even my M1A is a traditional walnut stocked rifle. Unfortunately it is
>>>>>> usually on ban lists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually a lot of western hunters like the AR platform. Can buy great
>>>>> barrels, and the recoil reduction is loved. We shoot longer distance in
>>>>> the west than the Midwest and East.
>>>>>
>>>> Hunting with an AR is an admission that you are a lousy shot and need
>>>> lots of ammo loaded up to hit and kill those groundhogs, prairie dogs,
>>>> and bunnies.
>>>
>>> Making that statement is an admission that *you* are such a lousy shot that you can't hit the broad side of a barn. An AR can be a very accurate rifle, and when used for hunting is normally fitted with a small magazine.
>>>
>>> You shouldn't project your own inadequacies on everyone else. Eh?
>> I've owned several AR style rifles that I used for target shooting. I'm
>> an accurate enough shooter but within limits, accuracy depends more on
>> the shooter than the platform. Hey, you need 30 rounds to nail that
>> critter, right?
>
> I have several 10 round magazines. You do know they are interchangeable, right?
>
> The shooter can't be more accurate than his platform. Maybe you didn't live up to yours, hence the thinking that you need 30 rounds?

Actually, a good shooter can compensate to some degree for an inaccurate
platform, JackOff.

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